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[Music] crime [Music] a hard-working Pious honest and kind woman battles pervasive harassment at
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her workplace she deals with it handling a difficult situation in a sophisticated
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manner her intelligence and hard work pay off and she Rises up the ranks to a position of superiority at an outfit
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dominated by tough men it is believed that these men her tormentors thought that they could bully
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her to the point that she would quit her job but Susan tasoz was tougher and smarter than they
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were she kept documentation of the harassment hoping that one day soon these bad elements that created so much
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bad blood could be removed scrubbed clean and washed away but blood is thicker than water
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even the bad kind and then one night in the middle of a graveyard shift Susan disappeared was this the case of
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retaliation revenge or was it something else who would have wanted her gone how many of these bad elements were
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involved just what the hell happened here can this case still be solved we will attempt to answer many of
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these questions this week on True Crime [Music] garage Susan Tasco witz was born February 13th
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1965 in Everett Massachusetts she grew up in a bluec collar town the bluecollar town of sagus
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Susan was the middle child of three kids born to parents Ronald and marleene Tasco witz Ronald was a tractor trailer
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dealer and marleene worked at the local grocery store Susan had one sister Deborah and one brother Ronald Jr the
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family home was known in the neighborhood because it was a pink Ranch Little Pink Houses there captain now to
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neighbors and those who knew Susan's family they all Rave about how sweet generous and friendly Susan was or as
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everyone called her Sue Sue was athletic and active she enjoyed running roller skating and soccer in 198 3 she
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graduated from sagus high school while there she had a reputation for being quiet but also reputation for being
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sweet helpful and nice both to her teachers and classmates Not only was Sue athletic but she had an artsy side and
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she was known for making crafts she enjoyed sewing and creating holiday decorations she was very active in the
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Catholic Parish church that her family attended even teaching Sun school and serving as a Eucharist Minister she went
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to Community College for a bit she aspired to be a cist but that didn't really seem to pay
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the bills so she sidelined her dream for a more regular job more regular work and
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she ended up taking a job at the same place that many other locals did back then this is the Boston International
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Airport or Logan International Airport and we all know how this goes you get a new job you're thinking that life is on
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the up and up but her life Sue's life becomes more turmoil than happiness that's exactly right and that's what we
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will find when we go through the events leading up to the the time in question that her life was filled with turmoil
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now we mentioned some of the problems she faced at work in today's trailer and we will get into her work stuff very
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shortly but in her personal life it was also in major flux leading up to the time in question she had just broken up
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with a long-term boyfriend who was an employee of an airplane fuel company and she left the Catholic church in which
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she had been raised to join a fundamentalist Christian Church Susan was clearly seeking something at that
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time in her life she typically worked the night shift and then went straight to Boston Church of Christ services in
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Danvers on Sunday morning after leaving the airport she also attended a Thursday
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night bible group her friends and family described what the Boston Globe referred
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to as a fervent commitment to the extremist Church whose fundamentalist teachings and demands were thought to be
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by some controversial this church was even termed a cult by several people now two
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of Susan's friends who spoke with the Boston glob this this is Vicky Boon and an unnamed woman both said that her
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recent breakup with her boyfriend it was Mutual it was amicable and there didn't
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seem to be any problems there but she replaced that part of her life with a newfound passion for this fundamentalist
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church that she had joined and she tried to recruit co-workers and family members
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and Friends into its ranks she often brought Candy to work to sweetly bribe people to listen to her about her new
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church and her experiences there she was so dedicated to this church that she missed out on sleep to help elderly
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church members when they were ill driving members to church and to Bible study and even babysitting members
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children so that they could attend services this to me and I think you will agree with me Captain what I see here
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when we take a glimpse of Susan's life I see a person that once she decides to commit to something she's incredibly
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dedicated incredibly dedicated to that and we see that with her church and I say unfortunately because I believe this
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is all tied up in this case but I think we see this with her workplace as well well like
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you're saying Sue is very dedicated to her church and she's dedicated to this job that
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makes her Inner Circle a little larger than I think most people in her early 20s Susan got a job working for
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Northwest Airlines at Logan Airport she started in May of 1987 working as a plane cleaner someone that cleans planes
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at that time this is a job largely held mostly by women but she worked her way up to equipment Service employee by
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December of that same year by 1989 she was hired as a member of the ground crew now at that time Captain this meant that
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Susan was only the second woman ever to work the ramp for Northwest Airlines which at that time was the fourth
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largest airline in the USFA Sue was a tough young woman and told others that she enjoyed the
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physicality the work required slinging bags on and off the planes using the light sticks to direct the Jets in and
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out of their Bays driving the loaders and Hauling equipment and supplies she told her family that she was happy and
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that they had no reason to doubt her in fact her mother marleene told the Wall Street Journal quote she truly loved
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working the ramp the thing she liked most was deicing the planes she just felt it was very important end quote
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Susan's friend and cooworker Deb maikas said quote the ramp was always known to be a man's job Sue wanted to show she
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could do it just as well as any man well if I know most men most men are [ __ ] so they're probably going to give her a
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pretty hard time that seems to be the case here C Captain because much later in our timeline unfortunately it's going
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to take until later for her family to discover what was likely the truth here that sure Susan seemed to have loved her
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job in the beginning but at some point her job became a source of stress and not just regular work stress stuff this
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is elevated stress which would include humiliation and an actual struggle sometimes dayto day
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now in February of 1992 Susan was up for a promotion to ramp crew chief again this is at
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Northwest Airlines the airline awarded the position to a male coworker Instead This is despite Union rules at
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the time about senority so the union rules Captain would require that the job be awarded to
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someone like Sue who was in a position of holding seniority over the person who was awarded the job so sue
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petitioned the airline for a redress and ends up winning and so the ramp chief job became her job she was the first
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woman to hold that title at that Airline this put her in a position of superiority over the Rough
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Around the Edges baggage handlers and ground crew that she worked among and had to
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supervise Men passed over for the promotion were iate and unfortunately some of these men
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were rude enough dumb enough or both to let it be known that they felt that because she was a woman that Susan did
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not deserve to get the job well let's go through this slowly she applies for a job that she should have got because she
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had seniority she doesn't get that job so one person maybe multiple people make this
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decision she then says this isn't right so she then sues the company so then those individuals that made the
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decision if they didn't lose their jobs they I'm sure they were reprimanded and then you have all the
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people well you have the one individual that they gave the job to that they have
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to take away now he's butt hurt and instead of being butt hurt at the guys that made the decision he's going to be
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butt hurt at Sue well and the the other thing we need to keep in mind too this is this is the
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union that is telling the airlines hey th this is what what our Union has decided is right
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and fair that what is right and what is most fair is that the person with the most seniority who applies for the job
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should have first crack at it and that person is Susan the individual that that got the job and then they had to take it
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from them the individuals that gave him the job instead of Susan it would only make sense that
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they're a part of the same Union right right it's so it's it's this is a weird situation like and you do see this like
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you have these groups that are supposed to be individuals Bann together for one common good but when things don't work
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out for them individually all of a sudden they want to break the rules or they don't think that they were treated
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Fair no you decided on those rules together you decided on what was most Fair together as a union so you should
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stand up for your union brothers and sisters but because we're talking about 30 years ago more than 30 years
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ago that PE people just didn't see things that way especially when you're you're talking about a line of work that
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was predominantly held by men and had been for so many years yeah and it's a little bit of human nature you can't go
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after the collective so you can go after the individual her coworker Deb who we've already referenced before and then
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another coworker his name is Joseph snow both of them told the media that Sue faced
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challenges from those that she supervised um because you keep it keep in mind the way
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that these things typically work in a workplace is people tend to choose sides right when when there's something going
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on when there when there's a dust up that's going on people tend to choose sides and some of the people that chose
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the other side and not Sue side were people that she had to manage she's the boss now of many people and so these two
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two people would later tell the media Deb and Joseph snow would tell the media that Sue faced challenges from the
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people that she supervised she's button heads against people that work for her but that she continued to hold her head
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high and perform at a high level on the job yeah I've actually seen this scenario go both ways I I was I was part
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of a bank that was closing branches so we got moved to another Branch immediately the manager
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said didn't ask for you guys to be here I don't care about you guys keeping jobs
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here I am going to try to manage you out and she did she micromanaged to the point where people couldn't take it
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anymore so they quit and then there was other employees that were like you're not going to be a thorn in my side I'm
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going to be a thorn in your side and made it completely difficult and became a very very hostile work environment
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and things like pay and having jobs affect everyone's livelihood and it affects people's families and it makes
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sense that people get could even get to the level of of hostile uh regarding these situations
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but it's also like let's try to keep level heads here and and make sense and again here in this situation we're
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talking about a unionized job and unionized situation where they're supposed to be voting on
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things collectively and deciding as a group and it's like if you're really going to be a part of the
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Union wouldn't you back up those decisions that were made by the union even if it weren't in your best interest
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or even if it weren't what was your idea you got out voted now sadly Captain it was shortly after this promotion that
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upward and cheers to you Colonel good to have you back in the good old state of Ohio thank you Captain cheers to you
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thanks to everybody for hanging out with me at crime con and hope to see you again next year so now we're going to
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have to jump forward here Captain to September of 1992 so just a little quick math here
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Susan now with the title of ramp Chief has now been an official employee of Northwest Airlines for 5 years and five
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months so let's go to Saturday night this is September 12th 1992 Susan is the overnight shift
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supervisor working the 11:00 p.m. to 7 a.m. third shift that night Susan left Logan airport or
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planned to leave Logan Airport I want everybody to underline that and keep keep that in
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their mind make mental note of that statement Susan left Logan airport or planned to leave Logan Airport in the
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middle of her shift so by now technically it is really Sunday morning the 13th Susan was going to go and grab
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lunch for the crew that night so she had went around collect sandwich orders from
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everybody on the crew she now has a list of Sandwich orders from her crew for a Riv sandwich shop that she was going to
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go and pick up the orders from and she told the crew that she was driving to the deli to pick up the food and she was
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going to bring it back this was a fairly big undertaking for my understanding here Captain anyone who has navigated
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Logan Airport knows that it's not easy to get in and out of there it's a maze of off and on ramps with complicated
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freeway exchanges so it's reported that Susan left or planned to leave around 1 a.m. as far as anyone knows we can't
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find anybody who actually says that they saw that they witnessed her getting into
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her car that night and this I think is is some key details of this timeline because she never came back to
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work that night and was her car found at her work no her car is later found but not at work and and here's something
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that I find and I believe everybody else out there will find rather curious so according to every report out there not
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a single person at Northwest Airlines reported the fact that Susan had reportedly said she'd be right
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back think about this she takes lunch orders from everyone sandwich orders from everyone says I'm going to go out pick a
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to pick up lunch for everyone I'll be right back nobody at her work reports her missing she's not officially reported
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missing until about a day and a half later how does nobody notice that she didn't return to work one but then on
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top of that didn't bring back my lunch my my sandwich that I ordered like it it would
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be pretty obvious to everybody there that she didn't return yeah big deal sitting around waiting for my
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lunch where's Susan at and keep in mind we talked about the the hours of her shift right her shift reportedly is
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11:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. that night the reports are that she left at approxim or planed to leave at approximately 1 a.m.
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that's relatively early in the shift for her for it to go unnoticed that she never returned so one nobody I'm not
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saying that it went totally unnoticed what I'm pointing out is that it went totally
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unreported so nobody reports that she didn't return one which she should have been
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back maybe 30 minutes at the most 40 minutes at the most let's say there's still 5 hours plus of that shift left so
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you mean to tell me that a whole crew of people who were waiting on their lunches and
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who would be working and supervised by this individual for 5 hours 5 and a half hours right additional hours never no
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noticed to the point of telling anybody that she was missing or didn't return very bizarre stuff there well we
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don't know what their work schedules were like and how often they they saw her you know I've worked in warehouses
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before where it's you might see the boss couple hours in the morning but maybe once it hits lunchtime you don't see the
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boss around lunchtime but but here it's it's significantly different because you
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have again a set of a set of people that are waiting for their lunches they're waiting for her return you think one of
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those individuals would have said this is a little strange that she hasn't made it back
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yet uh we should we should let security know this we should should let somebody know this I'll give you a very similar
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scenario that I'm sure almost everybody's experienced because not everybody's boss brings them lunch I
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don't know the setup did they hand in money was she willing to buy was this a regular thing or irregular thing I don't
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know that setup I'm not going to pretend to know but I do know this setup and understand this setup which I think most
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people will how many times at a job has somebody said hey man I want to take a lunch uh uh boss lady boss person person
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I'm going to take a break I'd like to take a break or I need to make a phone call and the boss tells you no problem
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you can go to lunch as soon as I get back from this or as soon as I get back from my break we've all been there and
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what happens after like 20 minutes 30 minutes 40 minutes go by you start checking your watch you start checking
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the clock cuz you you hey I'm expecting that break and then you would think after 5
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hours people starting to would have some concern to tell somebody now let's flip
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it to to somebody else who obviously would have concern Susan's parents now they were of course worried when their
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daughter never came home from her shift but let's go back to what we know was going on in her life at that time and
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cross exam and cross reference all of the material that we have all of the information that we have right so her
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parents they're thinking look we know how busy our daughter is with her work we know how dedicated and
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how much time she's devoting to her church and so they made some assumptions maybe she went to the church to help out
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after her shift and that's why she didn't come home or maybe she picked up an overtime shift which wasn't uncommon
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but then her parents catch wind that Sue had not been at work on Monday the 14th
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so marleene her mother reports her missing reports her daughter missing at that point so that's why you have that
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roughly day and a half timeline between the time it's believed that Susan was last seen by her co-workers in the
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middle of her shift to when she's officially reported missing but she's reported missing by her family mind you
00:31:49
now meanwhile that same day that Monday morning at 7:30 a.m. there's a worker in
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employee at Bravo Tire in Auto Service this individual he pulls into work at the mechanic shop this business
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is located at Lee Burbank Highway Route One in Riv as he Parks his vehicle note that
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that's the same town that she's going to go pick up the sandwiches from the deli
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right as he Parks his car he's showing up for work that day he notices that there's a vehicle in the Shop's
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driveway that was not on the appointment list that morning right so he sees this
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car he goes in he checks the appointment list wait a second this car is not on our appointment list now mechanic shop
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we know how this all works there's emergencies there's breakdowns that happen it's probably not uncommon that
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someone would drop their car or have a vehicle towed to a mechanic's lot and then phone it in the next day hey need
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some help thing broke down on the side of the highway but he checks his appointment list it's not on their
00:33:02
schedule so he goes out to further investigate and what he notices we should point out this vehicle it's a
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Toyota torsell uh and it's blue in color but he quickly notices blood smeared on the trunk of the
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vehicle and in fact the way that this is reported Captain is that there's so much
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blood on the trunk of this vehicle that at some point it had not just smeared across the trunk but the blood had
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dripped onto the ground near the back of the vehicle so of course the mechanic calls
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the riv police now police arrive on the scene and they have the unfortunate duty
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of opening up the car in the trunk and unfortunately inside they find Susan's body they find Susan Tasco it's
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body in the trunk of the vehicle she's only 27 years old at this time and she's dead like you mentioned before we have
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no eyewitness seeing her get into her vehicle to take that lunch break now you say she was found in her trunk what else
00:34:14
do we know about that scene well and this is really tragic too it's one of those extra sad parts of the story that
00:34:22
we come across regularly think of how this is all playing out she's she's technically been
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found shortly before her her mother her parents are going to report her as missing but you know police have to have
00:34:38
to process the scene they have to do a little bit of work they hadn't got around to telling the mother yet what we
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do learn though Captain is that the victim Susan she's found fully dressed later it was determined that she had not
00:34:52
been sexually assaulted but she had been violently beaten in and stabbed her cause of death
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was multiple stab wounds to the back and blunt force trauma to the head and neck and I have some suspicions about
00:35:08
that and I think that that there's some other aspects of this case that play into some of those injuries and we'll
00:35:17
get into that in a bit but we probably don't need to tell you that this was very quickly ruled a
00:35:23
homicide the money for the sandwiches was found in the vehicle she never made it to the deli that night to pick
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anything up there were some missing items the only reported known to the public missing
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items and this is what Sue's family alerted police after they identified the body and after they identified her her
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clothing and belongings and such the family told police that Susan always wore a 16in gold chain that had
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two charms on it one was a Christ head Medallion and the other was a crucifix this item these items were
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missing from her body when she was found dead in the trunk of the car and none of
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these items have ever been found they've never been located police checked the surveillance
00:36:22
camera footage from the coastal oil New England facility this is a business across the
00:36:30
street right from the parking lot where her vehicle and body were found so across the street from the Bravo auto
00:36:37
shop whether they saw Susan's car arrive at Bravo and if so who was driving it is
00:36:46
unknown we know they checked the footage we don't know exactly what they've seen
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but what we do know is police have stated that they believe that Susan was actually killed elsewhere and her car
00:36:59
just ditched at the Bravo shop the Bravo car repair place was noted to be very near the Esquire Club which is a bar
00:37:08
known to be frequented by employees of Northwest Airlines yeah when you start breaking down this timeline and you hear
00:37:14
that she collected money to go get sandwiches my first thought well I don't know if she collected remember I had
00:37:22
said I don't know that's one thing that I'm interested in finding out I don't know if she collect money or if she was
00:37:27
buying them or if theany was paying that part I don't know but the money the money that is believed to be for the
00:37:35
purchase of the lunches was found in the vehicle we do know that so still found in the vehicle but if co-workers are
00:37:42
saying whether they she collected money or whether they're saying that she was going to buy the sandwiches that part of
00:37:49
the story seems to check out then she leaves but nobody sees her get into her vehicle so we don't know if there was a
00:37:58
confrontation at that parking lot or where that where the conflict first started taking
00:38:07
place exactly and what we do the only thing we really do know is police saying that we believe she was killed
00:38:14
elsewhere and the vehicle was just ditched there which I think is really interesting when you check that against
00:38:23
the idea that we know that they check the surveillance camera footage across the street but we don't know what they
00:38:29
they were able to view on that if anything we don't know if if they could see the car pulling into the lot across
00:38:35
the street Susan's car or do they have any idea if one person got out or two people got out
00:38:44
right because you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to piece together that if police are telling you we believe she
00:38:50
was killed elsewhere then she wasn't the one driving the vehicle when it was dropped off at that parking lot yeah and
00:38:56
were they able to see somebody leave the vehicle was there another vehicle that came and picked up an individual after
00:39:03
the car was dropped off this could be some stuff that law enforcement knows they're just not
00:39:09
releasing it to the public and the interesting thing too is if there were other people involved
00:39:17
right people that worked together we we have nobody saying that they saw her get
00:39:21
into her Toyota tcel to drive off if she's attacked and killed prior to leaving you know airport security is
00:39:32
pretty good so I put the the percentage rate that she was attacked at the airport a
00:39:41
little lower on the scale I don't know what the surveillance was like or security was like at the time or in the
00:39:49
employee lot if there was one but I think that it's important to note that it is close to that Esquire Club a bar
00:39:58
known to be frequented by Northwest employees and there's at least one source that says that Susan had gone
00:40:06
there on more than one occasion and the only reason why I'm going out of my way to point that out again is if you were
00:40:14
planning to do something or somebody did do something in the moment and then needed some help you don't necessarily
00:40:20
need to have both individuals having been at work with her that night on that sh
00:40:28
if you could walk over to that club and catch a ride with somebody that you work
00:40:33
with who happens to be off that night to me if if cops are saying that she was killed elsewhere and that
00:40:41
vehicle was just ditched there then you have two choices either that was a random choice to ditch the car there
00:40:47
that night or it was premeditated that that location was predetermined to ditch the
00:40:55
vehicle and like you said there's Conflict at work there's people that she's arguing with I'm guessing some
00:41:01
higher ups and maybe some people that work under her some lower Downs yeah the the those lower Downs well we're going
00:41:09
to get into some some of those low Downs here in a little bit here Captain well see what I wanted to know is the day of
00:41:16
the day in question yeah is there anybody that says hey an hour into work fireworks were
00:41:24
were going off and and it was uh oh that there was some conflict that's taking place that people were witness of
00:41:32
right and look I don't think that there was one and I don't have a lot to base that off of but let's go back to one
00:41:39
thing we do know one thing we do know is nobody at her work reports her as missing and they have to work an
00:41:47
additional five hours with her once she were to return with those sandwiches at minimum five more hours so
00:41:57
I think it would be if there was some kind of conflict a pushing a shoving people shouting at one another if if
00:42:04
that was something that took place that that one happened at all but two happened out in the open it would seem
00:42:11
to me that somebody then would really pick up on the fact that hey Sue went out to pick up those sandwiches three
00:42:18
hours ago and I've not seen her since where's my tuna fish you know what I mean it's it it seems so bizarre to me
00:42:28
that nobody at work reports her missing and let's let's take this one step further we've already said that there's
00:42:35
Conflict at work with people that don't seem to like her and people choosing sides right and imagine if you're one of
00:42:42
those people that don't like her doesn't that give you even more reason to report
00:42:47
that she's not at work like oh I've been trying to tell you she sucks that she shouldn't have that job
00:42:55
here it is 5:00 a.m. and what she went out for lunch 4 hours ago that's the kind of thing that people babysit and
00:43:03
Report when they don't like people that they work with or work for now well and I just want to go on
00:43:10
record to say that if my tuna fish sandwich didn't show up I'm shutting down the whole facility I
00:43:21
will not be working I will not be working I will not help you work I will be shutting the place down until we know
00:43:30
what happened to my sandwich I don't want to get too far sidetracked but one of my favorite shows I think you should
00:43:36
leave says that there should be a rule against working through lunch should not be allowed now back to more serious
00:43:44
stuff though here captain and I want to touch on a couple things before we get into some of Susan's
00:43:52
workplace yeah disagreements situation harassment it could you could call it all kinds of different things within
00:43:59
days of Susan's murder suffk District Attorney Ralph Martin said to the papers they had quote no particular suspect end
00:44:10
quote now this might have been true at that point in time this is just days after but I'm telling you that is going
00:44:17
to change as time went on and as this investigation went on now let's talk about one of our favorite shows from
00:44:25
past time Unsolved Mysteries 35 years ago yes this show started of the more than 1,300 mysteries
00:44:37
profiled in over 230 episodes half of the cases featuring wanted fugitives have been solved more than 100 family
00:44:46
members have been reunited with lost loved ones and seven individuals who were wrongly convicted of crimes have
00:44:55
been exonerated and released that's according to Unsolved Mysteries website cases involving missing persons missing
00:45:02
heirs murder fraud and Amnesia have also been solved following Unsolved Mysteries
00:45:08
broadcast and according to their website that adds up to over 260 solved cases so
00:45:14
good job by you Unsolved Mysteries this case was featured on that great show season 8
00:45:25
episode 10 which also featured a segment about a wanted fugitive Albert Leon Fletcher a
00:45:33
Florida fugitive who was apprehended in Delaware after the broadcast so that's furthermore proof of that great show
00:45:40
shout out to Terry dun Mur and John Cosgrove the creators of that great show according to Unsolved Mysteries it is
00:45:48
not known if her former boyfriend was ever considered a suspect by police we had a couple listeners about a year ago
00:45:57
shout out to the beautiful listeners recommend this case and when I looked it up fired up the old search engine one
00:46:04
thing I noticed it was on Unsolved Mysteries went back and watched that episode and one thing that I I don't
00:46:12
want to gloss over is the fact that there was a breakup with this former boyfriend from my understanding though
00:46:19
Captain this was months in advance of her going missing from work and then found murdered in the trunk of her
00:46:27
car according to that show it's not known if her former boyfriend was ever considered to be a suspect at any point
00:46:35
in the investigation by police but what we do learn is that Sue's family backed him up 100% in fact saying that there is
00:46:45
no way that he killed her in fact photos of him and photos that he had taken were
00:46:53
visible in collages that were displayed at her funeral and he had been he was a big part of her life so the family
00:47:02
doesn't have any suspicions about this guy but it was unclear to me if police ever did but the way that this
00:47:09
investigation goes and the route that it starts to take about a year after she's
00:47:17
killed I think we're going to figure out that police if they they likely looked at the boyfriend how could you not the
00:47:24
ex-boyfriend but they had cause and they had reason to move on from him yeah I think any of these cases that there's
00:47:30
not answers right away you look into individuals like we like we always say look into the the Inner Circle first and
00:47:39
then move to the Outer Circle and when you got nothing repeat rinse and repeat at Susan's funeral a Snoopy stuffed
00:47:48
animal was next to Susan's casket Snoopy was her favorite character she had a collection of what's reported to be over
00:47:57
2,000 snoopies wow and a lot of people say that the character kind of sort of summed up her
00:48:06
personality too this according to her friend Vicky and what she told the Boston Globe her friends and family said
00:48:14
that Susan was a kind and loving person now when she died Susan was looking forward to being Made of Honor at her
00:48:24
sister's wedding and un fortunately she never got the chance well while we're on
00:48:29
this subject which one was your favorite peanut character who ever played the piano I don't really know the Peanuts
00:48:37
characters very well old Schroeder on the piano I I I was a big fan of lonus Van Pelt a lot of good characters on the
00:48:47
peanuts speaking of characters here Captain we talked briefly about suspects and one thing that is is very
00:48:56
interesting to me here is we we have the money that's found in her vehicle so that would point to the idea that this
00:49:03
was not robbery related there was no sexual assault on the victim she's brutally attacked and killed and then
00:49:14
left in the trunk of her car police saying that they believe she was killed elsewhere I have to believe that they
00:49:20
did not have a lot or were not able to pull a lot from the surveillance footage across the Street that's never been
00:49:27
confirmed but we don't know what they know but what we do know is that her mother and her
00:49:36
family for a good period of time believed that Susan was killed by a random individual that it was a random
00:49:44
stranger on Stranger attack which may make sense when you have somebody that appears to have no
00:49:54
enemies but also the vehicles found in this kind of random location that makes a little
00:50:01
bit of sense yeah we got to keep in mind though that her her family and police are unaware of the problems at work
00:50:10
early in this investigation well one of the reasons why that would make sense is because
00:50:16
what we see in a lot of these cases and what people have studied for years is are these patterns and so if you have a
00:50:25
victim where somebody tries to conceal that victim tries to hide that victim from
00:50:31
being found that normally you would lean towards somebody that actually knew the victim in this
00:50:40
case it's it's almost the polar it's almost the polar opposite cuz they parked the vehicle in a public place so
00:50:48
the vehicle is going to be found obviously somebody's going to report her missing now we're going to be
00:50:54
looking for a vehicle because her vehicle is also missing from work we're going to find that vehicle and when we
00:51:00
search that vehicle we're going to find our victim so it almost makes you lean towards the
00:51:06
idea that is somebody that she didn't even know well and I bring up from time to time the Killer is getting lucky and
00:51:13
I don't know that this was planned I talked about the location of where her vehicle was found was found at that the
00:51:20
business's parking lot the the auto repair Shop's parking lot in R did they know did they purposely put that vehicle
00:51:30
there because they look it's going to be found when you put the vehicle there in
00:51:34
that location it's most definitely going to be discovered there's no way not to discover but it's almost likely to be
00:51:41
found rather quickly and reported rather quickly so did they put it there knowing
00:51:46
that the business didn't operate until Monday morning keep in mind she goes missing the last reported sighting of
00:51:53
her is at approximately 1:00 a.m. on a sun Sunday did they put it there knowing that that would buy them some time that
00:51:59
the business wouldn't open up again until Monday morning or is this just another situation where the killer gets
00:52:06
lucky because I think that that that that short period of time that expires between the time that she is last seen
00:52:15
she's never reported missing in fact she's not from the timeline and all the sources that we have it technically says
00:52:23
that she's reported missing after her body is found so that gives us at about what 7 a.m. 7:30 a.m. on that
00:52:32
Monday back that all the way up to 1:00 a.m. Sunday morning right over 24 hours so over about 30 to to 31 hours expires
00:52:45
between the time that she's last seen and then her vehicle embody are found one thing when we talk about
00:52:53
suspects too we talked about how the family says that for the early part of the investigation they believed that it
00:52:59
was possibly a random individual that had killed their daughter and it was a stranger on Stranger
00:53:07
attack I don't know if they just came up with that on their own or if that's what
00:53:11
detectives told them that they they believed but you're exactly right the thing that would back that up is the
00:53:18
manner and how the vehicle is found and how the killer or Killers chose to conceal the body in a in a place where
00:53:25
it most definitely would be found and relatively quickly but then on top of that you the reverse of that is well the
00:53:32
stranger on Stranger attack there should be a motive and the obvious motives you
00:53:38
can say are not a factor here it wasn't robbery it wasn't sexually motivated there was no sexual assault so that
00:53:47
makes it seem much less likely now we talked about suspects early on or the lack thereof early on in this
00:53:56
investigation but what we learn from the Unsolved Mysteries episode is that about
00:54:04
a year so let's get into this real quick Susan and other female employees at Northwest Airlines were subject to
00:54:14
brutal and Relentless harassment from some of the male Northwest workers Sue started a secret journal in
00:54:24
February of 1989 this to record the behaviors she had was subjected to now for some reason she only kept
00:54:36
documentation of this for about 8 months or so but what she did record was shocking about a year after her death
00:54:48
this is when her mother Marlene finally could bring herself to go through Susan's things right she
00:54:57
was emotionally physically unable to do this for about a year and then she decides to go through
00:55:08
her daughter's things this is when she finds the journal that her daughter was journaling
00:55:15
about this harassment that she was going through at work and she's horrified by the entries that the journal contained
00:55:23
to me when I hear about this journal to me it's more about the fact that she works she likes her job she's probably
00:55:30
making good money and when there's conflict you need to keep detailed notes when it happened who it happened by
00:55:41
because you work in a situation where you do have a union and if you don't have detailed reports they're just not
00:55:50
as likely to believe you according to the UPI The Diary quote detail failed almost daily incidents of harassment and
00:55:58
her efforts to report them to the company end quote now Susan's family was so disturbed by the shocking revelations
00:56:07
of what Susan endured on a daily basis according to the diary that the Tasco wits believed that their daughter's
00:56:16
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