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grab a chair grab a beer let's talk some true [Music] crime [Music] [Music] n this is an open letter to Melissa witz
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killer we are still searching for you we know that you are most likely still in this community you are someone's friend
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co-worker spouse parent or neighbor on the outside you might appear to be normal even friendly and kind but on the
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inside that's a different story because in your heart you carry murder you carry
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the horror of the crime you committed against an innocent young woman I often wonder if Melissa was the
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first person you murdered or had you killed before and have you killed since the details of the crime make it
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clear that you have ties to the area in which Melissa's body was discovered you knew that area
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well maybe you're a hunter my guess is you are someone with very poor relationship
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skills you are most likely a loner you have severe anger issues you probably abuse people and
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animals did you interact with Melissa did Melissa reject your advances I bet she did
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and I bet that made you feel humiliated and angry you must have been embarrassed
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when a beautiful 19-year-old girl wanted nothing to do with you this made you feel
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small and when you did not get your way you threw a fit and lashed out at her you're
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pathetic sometimes I think you might even live near the location where you left Melissa's lifeless body is that why
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you chose that location do you ever worry that people close to you suspect you of Melissa's
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murder do you ever wonder if they have noticed your suspicious behaviors and Whisper behind your
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back I believe they do suspect you I believe they will come forward and turn you in it's only a matter of of time
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before they figure you out once they suspect the horror you are capable of committing they will tell
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others it is my hope that if anyone who knows you and suspects you of Melissa's murder I hope they find the courage to
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come forward and tell us who you are and what you have done in fact there is an anonymous tip
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line set up for this very purpose I hope that scares you there's a Facebook page
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who killed Missy wit there have been over 2 and A5 million people who have visited this
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page and I hope that scares you just know you won't be able to hide forever law enforcement will find
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you and I look forward to the day that your secrets are revealed I look forward to when you you
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are arrested and convicted for what you have done this is the case of Melissa [Music]
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wit a while back Captain we started looking into an old Cold Case this is the disappearance of Melissa wit Melissa
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wit was a 19-year-old who went missing from a parking lot in Fort Smith Arkansas back in December of 1994 yeah
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and about 6 weeks later they're going to find Melissa wit's body and about two weeks ago we were lucky enough to speak
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with Lonna Humphrey who has dedicated her life to missing persons cases for over a decade now and she knows all the
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details about the Melissa wit murder investigation she's been there working on it for quite some time and and let's
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listen in as Lonna tells us more about herself and tells us how she got involved in the case of Melissa wit well
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I am the executive producer for a documentary that U my team is putting together about um Melissa wit um it's
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entitled uneven ground the Melissa wit story and we became involved in her case really because of my background so I
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have been a missing person's advocate for just over a decade um in fact um 11 years ago I helped to co-found an
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organization that um offers assistance and resources to families that have missing adults all across the United
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States because what we had seen by and large is that there were um many resources given to missing children but
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nothing really um for adults and in that process um that team that nonprofit team
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really wanted to put together a documentary and that has something that had been on my heart for a very long
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time and and we started putting the um pieces and processes in place to make that happen and as we began to look at
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different cases and there are just thousands of cases across the United States we really were touched by Melissa
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wit's case one it's in our own backyard um but we we just weren't sure if if that was the right direction to
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because technically Melissa wit isn't still missing she was missing for 30 days before her body was found but you
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know really long story short our team was so captivated by her case and really wanted to see Justice happen that we
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felt like if we were able to get involved that maybe we could somehow help bring some closure to the case and
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if not closure um at least more awareness to what had happened um perhaps maybe to save the lives of other
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teenage girls so that's really how I became involved me the Melissa wit case can you tell us about Melissa wit and
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what kind of person she was and what was she doing leading up to 1994 Melissa wit
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was was described by friends and family as just you know an all-around good girl
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she was fun to be around she was happy she was very caring she was um a great student she was very involved in um her
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school she was involved in church activities she really really really um never met a stranger didn't have any
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enemies Melissa grew up um and lived with her single mother um Maryann wit she did have a relationship with her
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father when she was older in fact she was probably close to her teenage years before she really was able to build that
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relationship with her father um Melissa um doesn't have any um biological siblings but she um did have some
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siblings that um were related to her through her father's side of the family so and and they are still alive but
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unfortunately Melissa's parents um are both deceased and they've never you know they weren't able to see the case solved
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which is something that weighs really heavy on my heart personally Melissa and I never met each other but I actually
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have friends pretty good friends that knew Melissa wh so this this case really hits home for me because she was just an
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allaround likable lovable girl now in 1994 Melissa wit was a college student is that correct that's right in 1994 um
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Melissa was attending the community college in Fort Smith what what was then called West AR Community College it's
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now the University of Arkansas in Port Smith but it was westart Community College at the time she was wrapping up
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her her first um semester of school you know that December 1st was a Thursday and she was going about her her her day
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she had gone to class that morning she went to lunch with a friend after she left that that lunch meeting with a
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friend she um went to work she worked for a dental office in Fort Smith her goal in life was to be a dental
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hygienist well let's get right into it let's get into December 1st the day that Melissa went missing you know she left
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work that day I mean it was just a typical day you know left work that day to go home and change clothes and that's
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just when everything fell apart um she went home she changed clothes she found a note from her mom that said hey
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I'm at um you know Bowling World tonight you know her mom bowled on a league if you want to stop by you know come see me
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I'll buy you a hamburger I know we argued this morning but I'd really like to see you and so it's believ that
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Melissa saw that note and that's why she went ahead and went to bowling world that night she never made it inside
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Bowling World but we do in fact have proof that Melissa went went to bowling world that evening absolutely we do have
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proof that she did go to bowling world that evening her car was um found in the parking lot but it is believed that she
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arrived at at Bowling World approximately it's beli between 6:15 and 6:30 when she left her when she left the
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dental office her car wouldn't start she had some help getting her car started she went on home and changed clothes we
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do know that she did make it home to change clothes a neighbor saw her her mother was able to verify the fact that
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Melissa had changed clothes she was able to identify the clothes that she had worn that day because they were missing
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from the missing from the house so we knew that she was wearing those clothes and then left her house to go on to
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bowling world but she never made it inside the attack on Melissa would have been very quick and Swift We believe we
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know that her keys were found in the parking lot at 7:30 so the attack on Melissa Wht happened when she arrived
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and happened between 6:30 and 7:30 because as I stated the keys were found at 7:30 but it was a league night very
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busy so the parking lot was full but most people were inside there just aren't a lot of witnesses to whatever
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happened to Melissa all right so a lot of things in process we have a college aged girl Melissa wit she went to work
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we know that her car didn't start so somebody had a helper correct guessing probably like a battery or something
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it's the winter months yeah so it it sounds like the person that helped her with her vehicle was unknown to Melissa
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wit so A co-worker of hers stayed in kind of oversaw what was going on so she was not alone with this unknown Good
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Samaritan that helped her with her vehicle and I think you're right guy or girl I think was a battery issue that
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the they had to jump start her car mhm but guy or girl I'm I'm guessing a guy helped helped her I have no information
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as to the gender of the coworker or the gender of the good samarit right so she leaves work she goes home she changes we
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have some evidence of that then she comes to the bowling alley it's league night she's going to go hang out with
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her her mother yes and so she would have finally left work around a quarter till
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6 stopping off at her home and then as you said going to bowling world to meet up with her mom uh and it sounds like
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she would have arrived there between about 6:15 and 6:30 on that evening right then we have this hour gap and
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then these keys are found her keys are found in the parking lot uhhuh right so right so at 7:30 the keys are found and
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that's perfect because that leads us to our next question that we had for Lonna if the keys were found at 7:30 is that
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the time that we now know that we have a missing person no and that is where this
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case just really almost Falls AP part at the beginning because Melissa never went
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inside the bowling alley her mom assumed that she know she just didn't show up that night when her mom left the bowling
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league it would have still been crowded it's a very large parking lot she didn't
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see her daughter's car but she wasn't looking for her daughter's car Melissa never showed up as far as Maryann was
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concerned Melissa had gone on to do something else so it wasn't until tell Mary and wit had gone home and Melissa
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didn't come home that night so about 3:00 in the morning after you know calling friends and and waiting
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frantically for Melissa she decides to kind of drive around looking for Melissa but she never goes and looks at Bowling
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World because it didn't dawn on her to look there because she never saw Melissa there that night so you know we're
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losing time because had she gone to Bowling World she would have seen that her daughter's car was there and the
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other there was some other key evidence that was in the parking lot so unfortunately Maryann went went back
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home she called the police the next morning and when um the patrolman came out to take the report from Maryann
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wentt about Melissa he asked her had anything happened between you and Melissa that day was there any kind of
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an argument you know was Melissa upset and that's when Maryann had to say well yes we did have a small argument that
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morning and they did it was a typical argument between a mother and a daughter Melissa had asked to borrow money you
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know a small loan her mom said no and that was that there you know that was the end of it but because Melissa's
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mother told the patrolman about that argument he chalked it up in his report as someone that was a runaway you know
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rightfully so every day in America police departments take reports of people who are missing who really
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they've gotten mad they've taken off and they come back or they've run away and they come back so in his mind this was
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just a mad teenage girl well that all makes sense I mean it makes sense that Melissa's mother would not have looked
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for her at the bowling alley because she had no reason to believe that she ever arrived yeah yeah and then we have the
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situation where once it's reported you know now we know Melissa's been missing for 8 hours by this point right she's
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finally reported missing and then the officer taking the report rightfully so thinks that we have a runaway situation
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because there was an argument you know we've seen this a bazillion times Captain especially when we covered the
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Texas Killing Field cases anytime you have somebody in that teenage years right and they had some kind of spat
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with mom or dad or both and that's reported in the missing person's report you know rightfully so it's it's thought
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to be someone that left of their own reasons that left on their own and they'll be back soon well hats off to
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any parent that has had to deal with a teenage daughter I couldn't imagine what that that's like uh but I think in these
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cases we shouldn't assume that they're a Runway and that they're going to come back and we're going to see them the
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next day or so now Lonna we have Melissa's mother who is the one reporting her missing she's the one that
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had the argument with Melissa that day what was her gut feeling and what was her reaction as to what was going on
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Maryann knew that something was wrong and so she started calling Melissa's friends and they orchestrated a search
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party of their own they began to pass out wires all over the city of Fort Smith and because of their efforts and
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because they went to the police station two days later the major crimes unit got
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involved in Melissa's case that's when they heard about the fact that this beautiful 19-year-old student was
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missing that she hadn't come home and so as soon as the major crimes unit you know became aware that Melissa wit was
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missing and they had boots on the ground they found her car in the Bowling World
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parking lot but they had lost two days at that point so they find her car but they already found her keys well not
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necessarily they don't know that these Keys belong to Melissa wit mhm all they know is that we have some lost keys my
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guess is is that keys were found not knowing that the vehicle belonging to those keys are still in the parking lot
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okay okay and then it's turned into the lost and found I'm guessing at the bowling alley by somebody probably
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leaving the bowling alley that night yes you're correct so the keys were found by
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someone that was at the bowling alley with um their family they found the keys in the parking lot they turned it in did
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not realize that there was some blood that had dried on those keys when they turned those keys in and um that person
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who found the keys actually went out of town for a job um after that weekend and it wasn't
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for a few days that he became aware that that this was in the media you know it didn't hit the media until late Sunday
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or Monday about Melissa and when he found out hey there was this girl named Melissa wit that you know went missing
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from Bowling World he remembered that he had found some keys that he had turned in you know with with the name Missy and
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he he was able to tell you know law enforcement hey this happened at 7:30 so that helped establish a timeline but
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they also knew that they had a very serious crime on their hands because once once her car was found in the
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parking lot they also found um pools of blood throughout the parking lot that later were they were able to determine
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the blood belonged to Melissa wit they found um a crushed hairclip that belonged to Melissa wit they found um
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one of her earrings and then they had some various accounts of what later became very confusing and actually led
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the case in some strange directions but they did have some um some witnesses come forward that said that they had
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seen an argument in the parking lot you know another Witnesses witness had said you know he had heard screams and so
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they were able then to take all of that information and and and construct the timeline and you would think you know
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we've both been bowling before right yeah of course hey some people have I'm bowling right
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now I got my bowling shoes on and everything I was in a bowling league when I was a kid we had a really uh
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awesome team name want to guess what it's called The Three Amigos no it's just two people well that's why
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it would have been extra funny U balls of steel there you go that's what happens when you're in like 8th grade
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you think that's hilarious and when you're the captain so um no but you'd think that
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maybe there would be some 911 call because there was some confrontation in the parking lot uh and there was some
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screams yeah those two things to me go there's nobody checking that out well and I originally I thought that this
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would be like a very big Stroke of Luck here that you have this guy finds the keys in the parking lot turns them into
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lost and found and then like she said like Ladonna said two days go by before this thing hits the media before they
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know they have an abduction and he overhears this and he calls the bowling alley or calls the
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police and says I was the guy that found those keys and I found them that night around 7:30 I thought this was just a
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really big Stroke of Luck that okay now we can really narrow down this timeline that she disappeared Not
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only was she abducted by 7:30 but you have to presume that the person had made off with her by that point well no but
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there was an attack I mean we got pulls of blood in the parking lot right and that's what I'm saying I originally
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hearing this information I thought it was a great Stroke of Luck but but really you would end up to this
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conclusion regardless whether this man came forward or not saying that he found the keys at 7:30 because of the evidence
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found in the parking lot you could surmise that after she left her work not having left there until a quarter till 6
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stopping off at home you have to believe she was attacked very quickly after arriving to the parking lot at the
00:25:12
bowling world and if there's pulls of blood I mean this is has to be a vicious attack right yeah and and somebody some
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way somebody was able to attack her and control her so my guess would be there's
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some kind of you know attack where she's she's hit over the head with something right but it's kind of hard for me to
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believe that you know you're you're in your league balls are steel and the Three Amigos are playing and you find
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these car keys and you don't see these pools of blood well you have to keep in mind it's dark out one and then two this
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person you don't walk around looking for pools of blood you know you see some keys on on the ground and you you think
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I'm just going to do something nice if I would have lost my keys I wish some somebody would turn them into the front
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desk you're assuming the person that lost their keys is inside bowling M they're going to come out not be able to
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get into their car they're going to go to the front desk and ask if anybody found any keys well it's a little
00:26:10
suspicious to me we'll get right back to the case of Melissa Whit right after this quick beer
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Captain let's listen back in on our interview here Ladonna could you tell us in better detail about what was found in
00:28:11
the parking lot of Bowling World and then what that evidence led the investigators to believe yeah I I can um
00:28:19
so there let's start with the blood so the blood pools um and I'm going to give you what my opinion is after I've you
00:28:27
know stud the evidence and I've had you know full access to the case File it's believed that Melissa got out of her car
00:28:34
that she immediately encountered her her attacker as she was walking towards the
00:28:39
door of the bowling world but you know she didn't get very far believe that she most likely spurned someone's advances
00:28:47
and they struck her in the head and and you know later we can talk about how we know that that that indeed did happen so
00:28:56
there there are um pulls of you know a few spots of blood by her car and a few throughout the parking lot where she was
00:29:03
clearly dragged or carried and then placed into another vehicle the larger pool of blood is in a in a parking spot
00:29:11
that's further back where I believe the asant car was parked probably had her hunched over you know and if it's a head
00:29:18
wound it's going to bleed a little bit more as he he put her in the trunk or in the truck bed or in a van whatever
00:29:24
vehicle that he had that's what the that that evidence looks like but as far as the witness evidence it's really it's
00:29:31
really complicated and it's really um it's it's sad what happened with the case almost because you know when when
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this hit the media people started coming forward and said hey I I saw someone that that I
00:29:47
believe was Melissa Whit that was arguing in the parking lot with an African-American male and when that
00:29:53
story broke and they did a composite scet based on a couple of the witnesses this story um about Melissa wit just
00:30:03
took outrageous twists and turns I mean outrageous it took law enforcement on a chase that was fruitless it was just the
00:30:14
wrong direction and it really hurt the case because we were later able to determine that there was a Caucasian
00:30:21
female later that evening that did argue in the parking lot with her African-American boyfriend but it wasn't
00:30:29
Melissa wit and there are people to this day that even I've interviewed for our documentary who they just swear that it
00:30:37
was Melissa wit but it just it wasn't we have no evidence to prove that it was you know the most reliable evidence was
00:30:44
from a young boy that exited Bowling World to go out to his car to get a book out of his car he was there with his mom
00:30:51
who was on a league and around 6:30 6:40 he heard a woman scream help me now he didn't see anybody really you know that
00:31:02
gave us an accurate time frame as far as when we believe Melissa was attacked but
00:31:07
as far as anybody seeing anything you know this was right about when the league was starting up you know as a
00:31:13
women's league night and everybody was inside there were very few people left in the parking lot unfortunately it's
00:31:19
been maddening for us as a team and you know we did Chase a lot of these stories
00:31:24
down that even law enforcement has looked at and it's just unfortunate the amount of time and effort that went into
00:31:32
chasing some of this down that turned out to be nothing then it blew this Melissa whip story into something that
00:31:39
it wasn't it people started to question her character rumors started to spill out that had nothing to do with the case
00:31:48
but it really complicated the search for Melissa wit you know that's one of the things that we hope that we can you know
00:31:55
help with our documentary is kind of show everyone what happened um why the case got derailed and that those those
00:32:03
things absolutely did not happen it's a weird thing because you want eyewitnesses to come forward but when
00:32:08
you have eyewitnesses coming forward with phony information it's not that they're lying to you it's just they saw
00:32:14
they saw a white female arguing with an africanamerican male but it was just a different girl but that's kind of how
00:32:21
some of these cases never get solved it's CU When do people do come forward it's just not with the correct
00:32:26
information right well and to be honest with you eyewitness accounts are not very good um
00:32:33
they're they're actually some of the worst information and evidence you can have in most cases because people are
00:32:40
human and and they make inferences and they make assumptions so when when you get a tip from that night from December
00:32:48
1st 1994 when somebody calls in they don't call in and say I saw an African-American Guy arguing with a
00:32:57
white chick no they call in they say I saw some dude in the parking lot arguing with Melissa wit right that's what they
00:33:05
say that's and then you're like o we have something here and then you once you start piecing this thing together
00:33:12
and you figure out that oh well her car keys were found at 7:30 this argument that was witnessed in the parking lot is
00:33:19
happening after that time Mark after that time frame this is not Melissa wit this is not who was arguing with Mel a
00:33:27
wi just so happens to be it's two other people that were spotted later that evening well let's go over something
00:33:33
that we do know so we do know that the attack happened pretty quickly and based on the blood evidence that the attacker
00:33:41
probably was parked further away correct so they parked kind of in the back but they knew so so my gut feeling is that
00:33:48
this person either knew uh knew her well well enough to know that she was going to go to the bowling alley yeah or it
00:33:56
was just somebody followed her there this s her and like hey that's an attractive girl I
00:34:03
will attack her and followed her there now that's something that's something interesting here because you bring up
00:34:09
the the thought of some of the psychology of the suspect and let's dive into some of the psychology of the
00:34:17
actual victim here so what can this tell us well it sounds to us like Ladonna believes that Melissa was approached by
00:34:26
this person that whoever attacked her approach approached her and had some kind of brief interaction with her
00:34:32
before he struck her over the head dragged her or or or threw her over his shoulder and brought her to his vehicle
00:34:40
but we don't know what the evidence of that is why she believes that or if it's just gut feeling um I'm with you my my
00:34:48
gut feeling my initial things that my initial suspicion here was that that didn't really go down that way right but
00:34:57
I'm going to go with ladonna's thought on this she's much closer to the case than I am and so I'm I'm going to go
00:35:04
with the ladonna's correct okay maybe she has something we don't know about yet and she'll get into that but here's
00:35:11
the thing Captain what could that tell us about either our victim or our suspect well if they did engage in some
00:35:18
kind of interaction with one another like you said possibility cuz look if I'm approached by somebody that I don't
00:35:26
know at all I'm going to be very standoffish and if I'm a 19-year-old girl who's approached by some strange
00:35:33
man in a parking lot I might even scream or yell and run from that person MH so what could it tell us about the suspect
00:35:43
like you said either she may have knew him maybe not that well but knew him and had spoken to him at some point before
00:35:51
or if he's a total suspect and I've heard a total stranger I've heard this in other cases too
00:35:57
there's a chance he was attractive I've heard other victims other female victims
00:36:01
come forward where police are saying well why did you engage with that person when he when this stranger yeah Bundy
00:36:08
yeah why why did you just go along and talk to this person when they approached you and the number one answer is always
00:36:15
well he was attractive and he looked harmless yeah I my gut feeling is telling me that this individual the
00:36:24
suspect followed her knew that he was going to park far away knew that there was going to be little to no interaction
00:36:33
with her she was a victim in his mind and he attacked her from the word go I don't think she there was there wasn't a
00:36:41
conversation I don't think there was you know um you know come with me or anything I think it was just I'm going
00:36:47
to hit this lady this is my game plan I'm going to park a little bit further away this we're talking about a bowling
00:36:53
alley on a league night that's fool I mean if you try you drive by a bowling alley like like
00:36:59
on a Tuesday that there's no league night I mean it looks like the place has gone under there's nobody there right
00:37:06
but you go on a league night it's like you know it it seems like bowling's like the best thing since sliced bread so
00:37:13
there's tons of people on the parking lot you know that if you're going to attack this individual that you have to
00:37:18
do it quickly I believe this this suspect has ran into her before because he had to know not only and and and I
00:37:27
don't know where but he had to know that I'm going to be able to attack her and I'm going to be able to to be able to
00:37:34
manhandle her back into my vehicle you see what I'm saying yeah but here's where my mind goes I I think that
00:37:42
if he was a total stranger that I don't think he followed her there because if I'm following a
00:37:50
total stranger to a parking lot and like you said it's a fast attack but the longer that this attack takes place and
00:37:56
the longer that it Tak to get the victim from where I attack into my vehicle the
00:38:02
more likelihood that I'm seen that I'm spotted that somebody jots down part of my license plate or gives a good
00:38:08
description of my vehicle and myself mhm so here's where my thought is if he's parked that a decent distance from her
00:38:17
right I'm almost thinking he was already there when she pulled into the parking lot right and so he's just okay he might
00:38:23
have been sitting in the parking lot scouring the park parking lot waiting for an attractive young woman to pull
00:38:30
into a spot and he's going to approach her and attack her yeah and which you know cuz you something that was really
00:38:38
interesting before that was said before was this was uh league night this was ladies league night and somebody would
00:38:47
know that somebody in the area would very likely know that so if you're if you're going to pray on on a female well
00:38:55
why not go to League night where there's a bunch of females yeah but like I said
00:38:59
I think the attack I think once uh the suspect knew this person's my Victim or you know just from eyeballing the person
00:39:08
I can carry this person back to my vehicle cuz it's going to have to be somewhat quick yes it was a blitz attack
00:39:14
definitely exactly that's that's what I think all right we are both exactly correct all right Lonna just double
00:39:22
checking on something here because you are and where this case took place is Central Standard time I am in Eastern
00:39:31
time so I'm guessing though even though that this is Central Time that in December we're probably 6:30 6:15 we're
00:39:40
probably getting dark outside at that time right you're correct about that time about 6 6:15 it it's getting it's
00:39:48
getting darker her her attacker had that Advantage working for him for sure and he was most likely much larger than
00:39:57
Melissa he was able able to overpower her pretty quickly you know people ask me quite a bit if I think there were
00:40:04
more than one person involved in the case if you know there were multiple attackers you know anything is possible
00:40:12
but not everything is probable and it's just really unlikely that there was more
00:40:16
than one attacker was Melissa a pretty small person she was a petite gal um you know 125 lb you know 56 just
00:40:27
you know would have been easily overpowered and it appears that she would have been struck over the head
00:40:32
with some type of object exactly it you know when her body was recovered the medical examiner examiner report did
00:40:39
indicate that she had been struck in the head the head wound um was not fatal but
00:40:45
it would have caused the bleeding and it would have most likely you know knocked
00:40:50
her unconscious possibly for you know a period of time so that's definitely somebody struck her in anger you know
00:40:57
maybe they did strike her because she wouldn't come with them or they were trying to control the situation or you
00:41:03
know in my opinion it was somebody that she knew in my opinion and I think it it just got
00:41:10
out of hand really quick given what we now know it would lead me to believe a couple different things here that either
00:41:18
she like you had said captain that she was followed there or yeah that's my gut feeling or this was some type of crime
00:41:24
of opportunity where there was a person leaving the bowling alley that saw her or for some re reason was already in
00:41:31
that parking lot so Lonna is that the two possibilities I would add maybe a third thought to that as well though is
00:41:40
that she sometimes did attend league night with her mom so you know her mom did Bowl every Thursday night now
00:41:49
Melissa didn't go every Thursday night she didn't even go every other Thursday night she didn't go often enough that
00:41:54
someone would have been certain she would have been there but if someone had known her they would
00:42:01
have known it's a possibility that she was there so that's something to think about too I really do truly believe that
00:42:08
whoever attacked and killed Melissa wit had met her at least once before I think
00:42:13
that they wanted Melissa W I think that she rejected them and I think that they were there either hoping she was going
00:42:21
to be there or they followed her with the intent of either trying to uh win her over and woo her or maybe maybe
00:42:32
their intent was to murder her I mean I can't say for certain I mean when we talk a little bit more about how she
00:42:39
died it's a very intimate crime which also indicates that it was somebody that she knew definitely a crime of passion
00:42:45
Melissa's body was not found until about six weeks later can you tell us how and
00:42:51
who found her I can she was found um six weeks later in Franklin County and a portion of Franklin County that's called
00:43:00
Ozark Arkansas it was in the Ozark National Forest she was found off an Old Logging Road and um she was found by two
00:43:10
Trappers and there's a lot of mystery around this because these Trappers traveled that road every single day and
00:43:18
she hadn't been there the day before you know they came that morning January 13th
00:43:23
and and you know they found her that day and the night before the Fort Smith Police Department had received a phone
00:43:30
call an anonymous phone call from um what is believed to be a grandmother and her grandson and the grandmother was
00:43:37
urging her grandson to tell police what he had found but he um was too afraid to
00:43:46
talk on the phone and basically um they ended the call police weren't were not able at that time you know unfortunately
00:43:55
because the technology to trace that call but it's believed that that call was um about Melissa wit we believe that
00:44:02
that person actually found her body and moved her body from where the killer had had placed it her body had
00:44:11
originally been placed behind a rock this large Rock off of that Logging Road that um actually kind of looks like a
00:44:18
tombstone I've been there and and this rock is actually kind of uphill from the road so when you think about this in
00:44:25
context of you know when she died how she died um and and the location of where he he took
00:44:34
her and where he placed her body it's all very it's concerning it's someone in my
00:44:41
opinion that knew that area and most likely lived in that area I you know there there's a lot of different
00:44:47
theories on um you know when Melissa wit died and I'm not so certain that it was
00:44:54
that day um law enforcement believes it was that day but there you know I think it's possible that there was a couple of
00:45:01
days of discrepancy there so if she wasn't killed the day that she was taken so this monster that takes her could
00:45:09
have took her somewhere and held her captive and possibly tortured her for a couple days that's what's frightening to
00:45:16
me because you know she was found um completely nude the killer had taken you know all of her clothing her
00:45:23
socks and her shoes he had taken her other earring and he had taken her Mickey mouth watch and he also took her
00:45:30
purse so none of her belongings have ever been found and it makes you question this jack wagon of this
00:45:36
grandson like why are you moving the dead body note to kids don't move the dead body and Lonna that's that is a
00:45:43
crazy thing right there because we've read about this case quite a bit and this was not something that we had come
00:45:48
across so to the idea that someone finds this body potentially finds this body and moves it it makes you wonder what
00:45:57
other involvement this person would have had in this case well you know and I I asked myself that too you know I have
00:46:04
you know asked a lot of questions of the lead detective and then the retired detective you know who originally had
00:46:09
the case and I've worked on this project for two years and I'm just I'm perplexed
00:46:14
by that because you know what that means for this this poor girl who was murdered
00:46:19
is that not only did she meet an attacker in this parking lot and he takes her to this remote location you
00:46:26
know she's killed she's placed behind the rock then somebody else comes along and moves her I mean that's just
00:46:32
horrific to me and it's it's it's really unlikely that the person who moved her didn't know about the crime and you know
00:46:38
there's always debate back and forth especially on my team about you know part of my team thinks the person that
00:46:45
moved her is the person that killed her I personally don't think that I think they had some kind of knowledge of the
00:46:51
crime but you know I've seen the medical examiner report it was not a large animal that moved her because we've been
00:46:57
asked that you know because there is bear activity up in that area it was not a bear that moved Melissa it was a human
00:47:05
we're we're positive of this because of the way her body was moved and how it was laid out you know there was animal
00:47:12
activity unfortunately on the body but it was small animal activity which would be typical of of any kind
00:47:19
of of you know corpse that is left out in in international Forest so you know confident that it was a human that was
00:47:27
involved and and and the location is remote I mean it is remote and you would have to
00:47:34
know where you were going and you know it's not someone that killed her and then you know rushed to to dispose of
00:47:42
the body because they certainly wouldn't have driven almost an hour away when there are tons of other places closer
00:47:49
that they could have disposed of a body I mean this location meant something to somebody it's just so isol ated and you
00:47:56
certainly wouldn't have been able to go there at night had you never been there before and then find your way back out
00:48:02
like I said I've been there multiple times and it's it's Eerie it's it's a very eerie location
00:48:09
now when you say that this area meant something to her killer meant something to the person that placed her there you
00:48:16
mean the area that she was found absolutely I think that this could have been a favorite hunting spot for the
00:48:23
person that killed her perhaps it was a favorite spot for someone that had grown
00:48:28
up in the area um I I just think that there was a reason why they chose that particular
00:48:34
Rock to put her body behind because I'm telling you it looks like a tombstone it's just very very eerie and
00:48:43
we've got several several very you know good suspects that would have had reason
00:48:49
to know that location and and to have frequented that location so I really do believe
00:48:56
that that location meant something to someone you know they had been there multiple times well and maybe if this
00:49:01
location mean something to them they placed her there so they could come back to visit and I know that sounds sick
00:49:07
well she was originally placed behind the Rock and then she was moved from behind that rock about 10 feet away from
00:49:13
The Rock in full view of that Logging Road so whoever moved her wanted her to be found so she was never going to be
00:49:21
found behind that rock it just the likelihood was very very um slim but as far as you know law
00:49:29
enforcement believes that she was taken there that night and she was killed there that night so they believe that
00:49:36
she left Bowling World with her attacker and that's immediately where he drove and and killed her and she was
00:49:44
strangled and she was strangled um there at that location we know that for a fact
00:49:49
and nothing of hers or nothing of an unidentified person's was found with her no no and that's what makes it even more
00:49:59
frustrating it's almost like you know I say this carefully because I don't know it for certain but
00:50:08
it's almost like they worked really hard to cover up any of their DNA tracks now you know in 1994 we were
00:50:17
just seeing the rise of DNA in different kinds of court cases you know at that time everything was happening with the
00:50:26
OJ Simpson trial and so we were seeing a rise in that being used but most people
00:50:31
didn't really know about that really and certainly didn't know what steps to take
00:50:36
to maybe you know prevent somebody from being able to find DNA but you know they
00:50:42
did take her clothes they took everything that she had they did that for a reason and here's where my mind
00:50:47
goes Lonna is it it makes me wonder and suspect that whoever either moved the body and or killed her that maybe maybe
00:50:55
they went to this scene multiple times and I don't mean so much to visit with the body let's say I mean simply just to
00:51:03
collect evidence we have a situation where we know that she was brought to that location and then killed well if
00:51:10
she was taken there like law law enforcement would believe that evening and killed there that night she was
00:51:16
killed in a remote wooded area in the dark it would be damn near impossible to assure yourself as the killer that
00:51:24
you've located every piece every belonging that she brought with her to that location and that you in fact
00:51:30
didn't drop any of your belongings there that evening as well you're exactly correct I mean you're exactly right I
00:51:37
play that scenario in my head and I do believe that the person that killed her and maybe some others that found out
00:51:44
about the crime did visit the scene you know there were there were some reports and and we have a composite sketch that
00:51:50
has been circulating of a car and a man that was in the car that was sitting on that Logging Road um not long before her
00:51:58
body was found and so being able to identify who that man is is you know a mystery but
00:52:05
here's another theory that I'd like to kind of put out there you know and again it's my opinion but you know it's it's
00:52:14
hard for me to believe that someone attacked her and then drove her an hour away okay because she would have not
00:52:20
been inconscious the entire time she would have woken up at some point so how did subdue her for that 50 60 mile car
00:52:28
ride they take her out to this location they um most likely sexually assault her because she is
00:52:37
found you know nude right so did they sexually assault her out in the cold in December up on a hill behind a rock I
00:52:45
mean that makes no sense I mean we know that she died at that location because according to the medical examiner there
00:52:51
was um debris from that area that they were able to determine came from that area in her lungs and in her Airway so
00:52:59
we know that she she that's how she died it seems more plausible to me that perhaps he lived
00:53:07
nearby and she escaped him maybe the next day maybe the day after and he chased her and she came to
00:53:17
that location and he caught her and he killed her that seems more plausible to me but
00:53:23
I you know I debate that I debate that with the retired detective and I debate that with my team I mean it's we don't
00:53:30
know for sure but that does seem to me in my opinion to make the most sense I really just don't see how all of that
00:53:39
could have happened and the clean up been so precise unless maybe it happened you
00:53:46
know the way I'm suggesting or maybe they did come back to the site multiple times which makes the crime even more
00:53:52
disturbing really and tells me even more that maybe this person you know cared about Melissa in some
00:54:00
way you know to keep coming back and visiting that's it's a possibility but I you know my fear is is that we're never
00:54:08
going to find out I mean here we are two decades later and it's just we we still
00:54:13
are seeking those answers so just to be clear here if she were left behind that rock she most likely would have never
00:54:20
been found and then she's moved down to the road where it's very OB VI that she would be found and be found very quickly
00:54:28
well she was moved closer to be viewable from the road right you think about that
00:54:34
they moved a body that had been decomposing for six weeks I mean that is a horrific thing to
00:54:45
do I I still get chilled when I think about that but you really want to wonder about the psychology of the fact that
00:54:54
somebody moves this body mhm it almost it almost goes to one of two things for me that either someone was showing some
00:55:02
form of remorse for finding Melissa or knowing that she was there or putting her there one it's hard to believe with
00:55:10
a body so decomposed that somebody would move it by accident or you know it'd be
00:55:16
a younger person that was curious about the dead body because it was so decomposed but it's still a probability
00:55:23
and you see like maybe maybe there's remorse that somebody wants her to be found so that there's some form of
00:55:30
closure for Melissa's family mhm um maybe so that she receives a PO a proper burial rather than being laying out in
00:55:38
the woods um or does somebody want credit for this does somebody want it to be known that
00:55:45
she didn't just leave on her own or that she was kidnapped right does somebody want some form of credit in the
00:55:51
newspapers or on the news that that she was in fact taken and she was in fact murdered exactly or or maybe or maybe
00:56:00
the killer in a drug induced State told someone else and they they were overwhelmed with guilt and they moved
00:56:09
the body I mean it you know it's possible that a hunter did come across the body it's possible I'm not I'm not
00:56:18
sure I can understand why they would move the body and then not report it to police or not just call police and say
00:56:25
hey I found this body there has to be a reason why they would be afraid that they would be blamed or why they
00:56:31
wouldn't just come forward there has to be a reason but figuring that out I mean that
00:56:37
just adds to the the ab absolute mystery and just almost Insanity in this case it's like how many things can go up
00:56:46
against you know us being able to solve this and bring some closure and Justice from a little
00:56:53
bit it's frustrating I lose a lot of sleep over it I'm going to be honest I lose a lot of sleep over it what else
00:56:59
can you tell us about that strange phone call that was received with a grandmother and a grandson calling about
00:57:06
Melissa or about the body can you give us any more insight into that really just that I mean there was enough
00:57:13
information given on the call that they know that the caller was calling about Melissa wit as far as them releasing
00:57:20
that recording um to the public to hopefully identify who those people were they've never done that um it is
00:57:28
something that we'd like to include in the documentary so that's something that we're working towards being able to do
00:57:33
but that's that's as much knowledge as I have on it I mean it was a pretty brief
00:57:38
call but you know we are certain that the call was about Melissa wit and you know the person that wouldn't talk you
00:57:45
know wouldn't say very much the young man I believe he was truly terrified I think he was terrified maybe maybe
00:57:52
traumatized by what he had found or maybe he was afraid he was going to be blamed or maybe he had
00:57:58
information that he just you know didn't want to share because he feared for his
00:58:02
life I mean that's possible let's go back into the early stages of the investigation what were their initial
00:58:08
leads and what were their what were they tracking down to begin with were they questioning classmates were they
00:58:15
questioning family members so everybody and close to Melissa was looked at and looked at very closely including the
00:58:22
young man that she had had lunch with that day that very day um you know those people were all able
00:58:28
to be cleared you know people um at the community college were looked at you know they were brought in they were
00:58:34
questioned um sex offenders were brought in they were questioned um there were about 300 people that were heavily
00:58:42
interviewed in this case I mean there was one man who um had committed a murder um you know in the next town over
00:58:51
and you know it was could have been similar it was a parking lot type of um crime and you know they brought him in
00:58:57
and of course you know that led to nothing there was a another suspect who you know they interviewed him um many
00:59:05
times but he was um you know posing as a police officer not far from where the bowling alley
00:59:11
was and um they were able to clear him you know they do have people that they've looked at that failed polygraphs
00:59:20
that they've not been able to clear I mean there are a lot of suspects in this case
00:59:25
um and I've been very intrigued and also very disturbed by the amount of level three sex offenders that were in the
00:59:35
area and that didn't have an alibi that could have been responsible for this crime I mean it's it just it
00:59:42
blows my mind so the the investigation to you know the credit of law enforcement it was thorough they worked
00:59:50
it hard they worked every lead that came in they were determined and are still determined to
00:59:57
solve Melissa's case there was just a lot of unfortunate things that happened you know about six months
01:00:03
after um this happened a young girl a child wi missing and it's one of the most infamous cases in the state of
01:00:11
Arkansas and the United States and that did divert media attention and the Public's attention
01:00:18
away from Melissa's case it didn't deter Fort Smith you know Fort Smith Law Enforcement but you know let's let's be
01:00:24
honest six-year-old girl went missing and you know that greatly affected what happened even with the media keeping the
01:00:32
story alive so it was just a series of unfortunate events well Captain I'm glad that the investigators did that I'm glad
01:00:39
that the police did that and what is that they did the old pervert Roundup they did their old uh due
01:00:46
diligence on the perverts they don't always do that in these cases and I don't understand why sometimes I
01:00:52
question the the investig but when you talk to all the people that she went to school with and when you
01:00:58
talk to the guy that she had lunch with that day when you talk to the family and
01:01:02
you can't come up with any leads the bowling alley doesn't provide any leads you go after the perverts you got to do
01:01:08
the old pervert Roundup yeah show me your hands and sorry if nobody likes that term but guess what that's what the
01:01:14
detectives and the cops call it when you are not standing right next to them well
01:01:19
we have a lot of what was it level three sex offenders yeah so level three sex offend
01:01:25
and I think um just to maybe maybe we should be clear that this this Fort Smith area of Arkansas is probably not
01:01:33
as bad as uh Ladon is making it sound there with the number of level three sex offenders but when you have that amount
01:01:40
of level threes in the area you have to talk with them because because the the recidivism rates
01:01:47
are between 70 and 80% in a lot of these cases right and and so there's there's a
01:01:54
strong argument that these level three sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated that they will go out and they will
01:02:01
offend again yeah it's just a matter of time really the nice thing is when you're doing the old pervert Roundup
01:02:10
that it's actually not that complicated of a process because it's kind of like the Cupid Shuffle slide to the left well
01:02:17
every single one of them that had nothing to do with this murder or this Abduction of this 19-year-old girl every
01:02:23
single one of them wants to talk to you all you have to do is make a phone call or knock on a door and they will tell
01:02:28
you everything if they've got nothing to hide they will tell you everything because they're so afraid of going back
01:02:35
to prison uh because all of them are on parole you know and so so it's usually a
01:02:40
pretty easy thing to do I'm just shocked that there were so many in the area but
01:02:44
I applaud the investigators for making the extra effort well the fact that they were also registered I mean that that's
01:02:52
the scariest thing and we've talked about it before for but you can look it up um basically our government tells you
01:02:59
hey there's about 100,000 uh sex offenders that should be registered that we have no clue where
01:03:06
they're at over a 100,000 I mean lock your doors well and if you want some education on the
01:03:15
difference between the levels of one two and three on sex offenders I believe we
01:03:20
discussed that at length during our fifth nail uh episodes but but basically with the level threes these aren't guys
01:03:27
that this isn't like some guy that was peeing in a park late at night when he was drunk and the cops saw him no
01:03:32
usually usually this involves some form of abduction some form of threat of of death or bodily injury to the person
01:03:41
that that they're offending against or it's a minor and a young minor I believe you it it varies by state but it's
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probably I would guess 12 12 years old in in this state so these are bad very very bad people and so they we're not
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breaking any rules we're not infringing on anyone's rights in my opinion by rounding these guys up and asking them
01:04:04
very simple questions where were you on December 1st 1994 and who can tell us that you were where you say you were
01:04:12
it's very simple well maybe we should have Lonna kind of talk about the area uh so people can get a better picture of
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what was going on in 1994 on December 1st it was 1994 and fortunately I think everybody will be disturbed to know the
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truth of the fact is that there are level three sex offenders in everybody's neighborhood there and in their greater
01:04:37
surrounding areas it this is just something that um it's kind of in your face more when someone goes missing and
01:04:44
you you dig in and and you dive in and you do that investigative work and you find that out so I think for the most
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part people didn't know that you know Fort Smith is kind of a Crossroads town you know about what 75 80,000 people
01:04:57
it's um you know pretty close to the border right there where where Oklahoma is it's just one of those areas that you
01:05:06
know on the surface seems okay it seems safe you know Melissa had no reason her family had no
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reason to think differently you know there had not been any kind of case like this that had happened in their town or
01:05:20
in the state for that matter until this happened and so I think the town you know the family the town all of us all
01:05:29
of us at that time were naive and I think that people are still naive today I mean this has really I have kids of M
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own I have seven kids believe it or not and um you know it's really made me be more aware of of what's in my own
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community and it's it's disturbing but I think that if all of us kind of really took notice in our own backyard we would
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we would live our lives a little bit differently but nobody was doing that especially back in the 90s I mean they
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just weren't they just these are not things that you thought about or that you knew about did the bowling alley
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have any surveillance footage did they have any cameras inside the building or out in the parking lot so that maybe
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they could draw a lead from someone leaving the bowling alley or some form of activity in the parking lot Bowling
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World did not have security cameras in the parking lot and they didn't have very good lighting in the parking lot
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and to this day even after this crime happened they do not have security cameras in their parking lot it's
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something that's really frustrating to me especially in this day and age but no there's no security cameras and in fact
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some of the buildings that were surrounding Bowling World at the time and there weren't a lot they didn't have
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any kind of security footage that would have been pointing towards Bowling World
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so there's nothing nothing now you know there's some neighboring you know convenience stores and some other
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stores that um they were able to try to look at footage then to see if they could put you know put some things
01:07:01
together but it wasn't close enough to Bowling World to be able to um to make any kind of identification on who who
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took Melissa wet it's just like they came out of nowhere like a ghost and took her we have a lot more to get to with
01:07:23
this Melissa Whit case thanks for hanging out in the garage with us we hope everybody has a great evening have
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