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November 16, 2023 / 49:06

This episode covers the tragic case of Maurice Gordon and Larry Ordway, two brothers from Louisville, Kentucky, who were murdered in May 2016. The discussion includes the circumstances leading to their deaths, their connection to aspiring rapper Bryce Rhods, and the investigation that followed. Key topics include the boys' backgrounds, their relationship with their mother, and the influence of Rhods.

The episode begins with the introduction of the brothers, who were described as normal kids with a close bond and good academic records. However, they were also involved with a dangerous crowd, including Bryce Rhods, a 25-year-old struggling rapper with a criminal history. Their mother, Marie Ren, was aware of their associations but did not report them missing until days after they disappeared.

On May 21, 2016, the bodies of Maurice and Larry were discovered in a vacant lot, prompting an investigation that revealed their last known whereabouts were with Rhods. The police learned that the brothers had witnessed Rhods commit a murder weeks prior, which may have led to their own deaths.

The episode discusses the role of Rhods as a negative influence on the boys, luring them with promises of fame and material goods. It also highlights the community's response to the tragedy and the challenges faced by families in similar situations.

Throughout the episode, the hosts reflect on the impact of peer pressure and the dangers of associating with the wrong crowd, emphasizing the need for awareness and intervention in such cases.

TLDR

Two brothers from Louisville were murdered after associating with a troubled rapper, revealing the dangers of negative influences and peer pressure.

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home the individual heard in today's trailer is certified POS and struggle rapper Rambo his real name is Bryce
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Jamar rhs and that is him calling from a jail cell as he is awaiting trial and someone was dumb enough to pay $9.99
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cents for this call and in even more bizarre Act of brazen lack of human decency and compassion for the community
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of Louisville some nudnick put this phone call up on YouTube and posted free Bryce rhods no thank you now one does
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not need to have too much of an imagination to understand the phrase struggle rapper but because the Urban
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Dictionary is equal parts Brilliance and hilarity here is their definition a struggle rapper is a guy who takes
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rapping super seriously and thinks he is amazing but his actual skills are average at best we all know a couple and
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now unfortunately you know one more but as much as we all would like for it to be this is not a hip-hop show in fact
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they tell me that it is a true crime show so Captain let's go back 5 years this is May of 2016 in beautiful
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Louisville Kentucky where we have two young Brothers Living with their mom Marie Ren the boys Larry Ordway age 14
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and Maurice Gordon age 16 had different fathers but shared a brotherly bond in a
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close relationship with their mother they were in many respects normal kids who like to have fun and hang out with
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their friends both boys were doing well in school at Olstead Academy North and the family was looking forward to both
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boys' upcoming graduation from the e8th grade but instead of graduating from the
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eth grade and moving on to bigger and better things in high school Marie would be planning their funerals on Saturday
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May 21st according to the boy's mother Maurice and Larry left the home and they never came back but these two young men
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they're 14 and 16 and they're hanging out with Bryce which is in his mid 20s at this point on Sunday May 22nd this is
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around 12:30 p.m a little girl riding her bike in the shaie neighborhood of Louisville saw something awful two
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bodies were lying in a circle of burned grass in an abandoned lot on River Park Drive near 40th Street this was not the
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neighborhood where the boys lived with their mother to give you a flavor for the area one resident said to
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wlk Y jelly to see the CSI truck I knew it was something a little bit more serious than just two people being shot
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along with police the arson unit responded to the scene because of the attempt being made to burn the bodies it
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was apparent to any one who saw the bodies that they were murdered victims Witnesses describ the scene as horrific
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one officer was seen shaking his head as he covered the bodies with a sheet probably because it was apparent to him
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how young these victims were crime scene investigators determined that the victims were murdered elsewhere and then
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dumped in this vacant lot the bodies had no ID on them the police had no reports
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of missing teens in the area police issued a statement that two teen males were found dead and Foul Play was
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evident they released sketches of the victims on Monday night a faculty member of the boy school then recognizes the
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sketches they knew both brothers Larry and Maurice these two brothers did not come
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to school on that Monday so this faculty member called it into to police on May 24th
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it was reported that a Louisville woman had come forward to claim the two bodies
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found as her sons but the victim's names were not released until May 26th of course the mom was Marie Ren and the
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boys the victims were Larry and Maurice her two sons well their mom is going to be told I believe on Tuesday that it's
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possible that her boys were found and found in this area yeah this is a weird situation Captain because it's one of
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those rare situations where two people go missing they're killed their bodies are found and
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recovered and it's not until a couple days later that they're claimed by a family member in this case
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being their mother but they were never reported missing at any time yeah I don't want to throw her under the bus
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but when your kids don't show up to school on Monday and they don't come back home Sunday night or or Monday at
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what point are you going to call them in missing yourself especially when they're
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missing school on that Monday so Marie the mother told the media that she learned that the two bodies were found
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they could be her boys she learned this on that Tuesday they had left the house with friends on Saturday night that's a
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long period for you not to know where your kids are exactly you have to wonder if this was a regular thing in the
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household to just not know where the kids were what they were up to Marie said in an interview quote everybody
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knows them they got killed over nothing Larry played football and he was on honor rooll in school and Maurice loved
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music he was into the music industry and they were great kids they didn't take from nobody she added she pleaded with
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anyone who might know anything about the case to please come forward now let's take a step back here captain and look
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at what was going on in Maurice and Larry's lives at the time that they first go Miss and then unfortunately
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later found to be murdered victims as we said the boys behaved themselves at school and were both considered to be
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very good students both were in the eth grade at Olstead Academy North and teachers who spoke about them said that
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they were in fact good kids but behind the scenes I think it's a whole bit of a different story here and I'm not saying
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that they weren't good kids but what I am saying is we do know that Larry and Maurice were running around with a bad
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crowd right well and also you're saying they're in the same grade one's 14 and 116 yeah it's not clear to me that that
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jumped off the page as well for me Captain and it's not clear to me why that is what it is but that is in
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fact the case or was the case 5 years ago well just to be clear we don't we're not trying to bash these victims we're
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just trying to state that the these are the surroundings this is the environment
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they were in and I'm still in the eighth grade as well here Captain so I cannot those in Glass Houses right so here's a
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quote from um one of the detectives working the case said quote when you have young kids that are in their early
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teens I mean you can have really good kids and they get thrown in with the same crowd with a bad crowd this is this
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could happen to any kid this is from homicide detective Todd Kissinger this is what he told the CBS News down there
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in Louisville Kentucky all it takes is for you to be hanging out with the wrong crowd for a week for a couple days bad
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things can happen when you're hanging out with bad people and bad things can happen quick my point is it doesn't
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matter if they were hanging out with the wrong crowd for 2 years or two days bad
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stuff can happen I have a CREDO that I've lived My Life by if you hang out with bad people and are around bad
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things and do bad things long enough something bad will happen to you it's it's just how things go now it seems
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that Larry and Maurice got caught up in the sort of gangster lifestyle that looks glamorous to some kids their
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social media pages are filled with photos of the two boys posing with automatic weapons and assault rifles
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smoking cigars counting large amounts of cash and you know trying to look cool I
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guess for the the camera the disturbing thing is it's pretty clear that their mother well she knew what the boys were
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up to in their free time she knew that they were hanging out with a bad crowd she knew that they were doing things
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that were these unsavory things on camera and then putting these videos together on their social media pages and
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we know that she knew this because she is in some of the pictures with them holding guns in a in a tough looking
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pose and is even posing with her little daughter in all blue clothing and flags and such that's interesting yeah and
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then she went on to tell wdrb.com quote my sons were trying to Earn Stripes in the blood gang and they
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had to put in work if they didn't put in work they were knocked off and that's why they were knocked off because they
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were scared to put in the work end quote now later Marie backtracked saying it was all a front so her boys could seem
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cool and her mom this would be the grandmother Debbie Ren told the media that the guns in the photos were just
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toys I don't know either way I'm going to go with the grandmother give her the benefit of the doubt and say that maybe
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they were toys but either way it's it's it's what are you trying to uh what are you trying to achieve by posting
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pictures like that well exactly it's not something that I want to see but uh you
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know I have to remind myself I was a teenager and I did some dumb stuff in my teenage years yeah we've done we both
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have done some really stupid crap I think I think most people do or at least that's what I tell myself to feel better
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about myself well also it it would seem to me I'm assuming that they're being raised in a house by a single mother so
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I didn't know that growing up I don't know what that would be like and a lot of kids in these types of environments
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feel like going with a gang sometimes they feel like there's no option if you don't go with the gang
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then every gang is out to get you so at least if you team up with somebody somebody's protecting you well and I
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think what we're going to see here and something you pointed out earlier Captain these are young impressionable
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boys who are hanging out with an adult that they should not be hanging out with and they're being led by this guy and
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led down the wrong path and that's for certain now according to the Courier Journal what they said of the mother
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said quote she came under attack on social media for photos of her sons holding guns on her Facebook page which
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referenced a gang her family insists that the teens weren't in a gang and were just pretending to be tough and
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quote so regardless whatever the truth it's clear that Marie did know who her boys were hanging out with and this was
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in fact the wrong crowd and one loser in particular was 25-year-old aspiring rapper Rambo as he called himself better
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known as Bryce rhods both boys had appeared in Rambo's music videos with references to guns sex and violence the
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boys thought Rambo was going to make them famous as he got famous he told them his music videos would make
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them Stars eventually and he bought them clothes and food and would have them ride around with him in his car but
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didn't they like listen to his music again they're teenagers they they're young teenagers and they're
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they're just not making good decisions I mean listen to the first line of that rap he he's in prison he said he's going
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to the jewelry shop yeah I'm going to the jeweler bro like yeah you're not no no you're not but you're
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not you can you can say whatever you want to say but you're not hey maybe he is going to like the prison Jeweler
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maybe there's a prison Jeweler if handcuffs or jewelry in this guy's mind then yeah this guy's a baller he's a
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baller right and you're right I that's funny that you say that Captain did they listen to his music cuz it ain't
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good yeah and I'm I'm just not a fan of Mumble rap in general like when when the rapper sounds like
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they're just mumbling or or the ones that are just that it's all braggadocious there's no
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there's no story there's no Rhyme or Reason um you know that to me it's it's nonsense and and I would say that I'm A
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hip-hop fan I mean I like Tupac Biggie I like Jay-Z I like most death black thought the Beasty Boys I feel like
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those guys are at least saying something they're not just mumbling well and there's there's good kinds of music and
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bad kinds of music you know in all genres and um the the thing is again remember this dude is 25 they're 14 and
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16 I remember when I was 14 there was a couple dudes I hung out with simply because they had a car right and in
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hindsight these guys were idiots that I were that I was hanging out with simply because they had a car so you can only
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imagine what their the Hocus Pocus that he's putting on these young dudes you know he's 25 he's got a car he's got
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tattoos he's saying hey I'm going to be famous he's probably lying about who he is to them making himself seem bigger
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and more important than what he actually is and they they're young they don't know any better they believe him and so
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they're tagging along they're along for the ride so to speak well right but that's why he's hanging out with 14 and
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16y old cuz he can't nobody he can't impress anybody his own age right so he's like oh I got to impress these kids
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now while we're on the subject of them hanging out with Bryce rhs we have uh their mother on record saying the
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following about Bryce he goes through the neighborhoods and he just picks up teenagers he sees and asks them you want
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to sell this you want to sell that he kept sneaking and picking up my sons he bribed them with designer clothes and
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shoes he would even take them out to eat by them food uh her mother he sounds like a pedo is what he sounds like to me
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yeah that's true you know like it's I mean think about how many of these serial killer pedos that we've talked
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about that go around the neighborhood find the poor kids and go hey uh you want some beer do you want some
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marijuana do you oh you want some new sneakers I can help you out yeah there was a guy down in Texas Dean Coral that
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uh made a whole lifestyle out of that for for years yeah um and and he was a shitty rapper too yes yes he was the
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grandmother Debbie who who I am a big fan of you know if we're going to be picking sides here and getting people's
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back here I will I want to be upfront about that I'm a fan of Debbie Ren she is on record saying the same thing about
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Bryce he lured her words her he lured these kids in by buying them shoes taking them to the mall taking them out
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to eat and she says yeah he was a predator hold on I'm going to defend the mom a little bit because here here's
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what we're so quick to do uh this these kids were in a bad situation their mom didn't know what was going on look at
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this age 14 and 16 they're probably bigger than their mom they're probably taller than their mom she can't
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physically control them can't maybe physically tell them not to do this or not to do that I don't know that that's
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the case here right but what I'm saying is what's never mentioned in the story is where the hell where the both of
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these boys' fathers you know so let's not put the let's not put uh too much weight uh onto their mom cuz cuz their
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their fathers that obviously weren't helping keeping these kids in better environments it's it's on them as well
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well the mother went so far as to say that Rambo used young kids to do his dirty work on the streets and by the
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time her boys discovered how dangerous he really was she says it was to too late so Marie told the
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police that this is what happened that Bryce rhods and two other teenagers came and picked
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up her two sons on Saturday night they were going to a party and this is what they told her we're going to a party on
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Sunday she called one of the phones one of their phones looking for them because
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they didn't come home now she didn't know it but they were actually already dead at this point one of the teenage
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boys that was with Bryce and her two sons answered one of her son's phones and he at the time happened to be
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in the car with Bryce and he said to this teenager tells Marie that we went to the store and we'll be right back so
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Marie knows not only Bryce rhods by name but also knows the name of both of these
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teenagers that arrived with him to pick up her sons on that Saturday they're missing they don't come home and on
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Sunday she's calling their phones one of these teenagers picks up gives an excuse
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and now we still have two teenagers who have not come home right but at that moment you call cops you call the cops
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and you can say look my sons were supposed to be with these two gentlemen or these three gentlemen my bad and
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that's what you do yeah my son left with an adult and have not come home like they were supposed to I'm calling this
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in because it's it's an issue and so armed with this information this is what she tells the police once the bodies
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were found now about 2 and 1/2 weeks before Maurice and Larry were killed there was another murder in Louisville
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and one that was unsolved at the time that her two sons went missing media reports said that on May 4th around
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12:30 a.m. 40-year-old Christopher Jones was found having been shot in the Torso
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in the 800 block of South 41st Street now Medics arrived on the scene and triy to save Christopher Jones but he died
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during surgery at University Hospital just after 4:30 a.m. this was the city's 38th homicide of that year when the
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Louisville Metro Police spokesperson reported this to the media the following afternoon he said that there were no
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suspects at that time okay so what does this have to do with r two teenage victims well in the course of their
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investigation the Louisville PD investigation into Bryce rhods after getting his name from the mother police
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got aate statement from one of Rad's accompli that Maurice and Larry were in the vehicle when Bryce RADS shot
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Christopher Jones so this unsolved homicide for May 4th they're now getting information that the two other murder
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victims were in a car with this Bryce rhods character when he when Bryce rhods shot
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working one or both of these homicide cases you have an interesting situation here now don't you because you have
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someone telling you that these murders might all be connected and the center point here might be this Bryce rhods guy
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right we now have information that he shot and killed this Christopher Jones and we're now getting information that
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our two other murder victims were were in the vehicle with Bryce roads when he shot and killed Christopher Jones yeah
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so the the PD is sitting around thinking where can we find Bryce rhs at well at the local jewelry store yeah of course
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bro the interesting thing here too is this information is coming with a certain amount of weight a certain
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amount of weight backing it up that makes it even more believable because there was another accomplice
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also we now have a motive of why this 14 and 16y old are dead the motive being that Bryce killed this guy and their
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Witnesses or accomplice and and somehow then Bryce decided that they need to be be taken
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care of so the accomplice was following behind Bryce rhods and Maurice and Larry
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who were in a vehicle following behind them in another vehicle this accomplice ran over Jones's Body by accident after
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Christopher Jones was shot rhs told Larry and Maurice according to the accomplice that Bryce rhs told Larry and
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Maurice not to tell anyone about the shooting and then took them home that's the night of May 4th okay so just
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reverse a little bit so Bryce pulls up with the two teenage boys in his car he pulls up on this guy he gets out of
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his car shoots the shoots the guy his accomplice is behind him I think it was a drive by okay but then the car behind
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him was Bryce's buddy and he ran over the victim correct he ran over Christopher Jones okay so when police
00:32:52
arrive they find this man shot and run over he's still alive but he's you know not able to
00:33:01
speak or tell them anything right and they Rush him off to the hospital where they tried desperately to save this guy
00:33:10
but unfortunately were unable to do so when Bryce rhs after the shooting he of course tells Larry and Maurice not to
00:33:19
tell anyone about the shooting about the murder and then takes them home but the
00:33:26
two teenag teers they're just kids right I mean at the end of the day regardless
00:33:32
of what they were doing good bad or in between they're just kids and they probably didn't know even if they were
00:33:41
told this is what might go down tonight they may not have even believed it until
00:33:46
they saw it until they experienced it these kids are terrified now and he's just dropping them off at their
00:33:54
house yeah so it seems seems that this might be the the real life shocker wakeup call
00:34:03
to this 14 and 16year old boys that hey this [ __ ] is real yeah and these things
00:34:12
have real consequences and look to what just happened to this unfortunate individual that was for all we know just
00:34:20
walking down the street minding their own business and gets gunned down and then unfortunately ran over well and now
00:34:26
you have proof that this 25-year-old you're hanging out with is a complete [ __ ] bag and so if he's capable and you
00:34:34
just saw what he did so if he's capable of doing that to this guy he's capable of doing that to you to any member of
00:34:41
your family you got you got mixed up with the wrong crowd well and of course now he's dropping them off at home and
00:34:49
they're terrified they're frightened and now Bryce rh's concern then becomes that
00:34:56
well maybe these two kids are going to tell someone maybe they're going to tell their mom maybe they're going to tell
00:35:02
their grandmother maybe they're going to tell people at school or even the police
00:35:07
right to Double Down triple down I guess on the tragedy Larry and Maurice they're
00:35:12
dead within three weeks of this Christopher Jones being shot now Christopher Jones being shot wasn't
00:35:19
there a a hit put out on him or something um something like that we we'll get into that cuz it's a little
00:35:28
more complicated than that but what we have here Captain is once the mother tells police about this Bryce rhods and
00:35:36
everything that she seems to know at the time and that her boys were last to be seen with him the Louisville Police they
00:35:44
started looking for Bryce rhods and he had a record and not just not just a police
00:35:52
record he had a police record with Louisville PD right right so we'll go through some of his uh background here
00:36:00
he had been convicted twice of assault four times of domestic violence and twice for violating the
00:36:07
terms of his probation but more importantly rhs was wanted in nearby Indiana on domestic abuse charges in
00:36:17
Clark County now Indiana authorities had been looking for Bryce rhods for about 6
00:36:24
months at this time in our timeline he was also on probation in the same Indiana county for domestic assault for
00:36:33
incidents in 2013 and 2014 Louisville authorities had a reason to find and arrest Bryce rhs so that's
00:36:44
the Avenue we are going to pursue right we've only heard this information from people that we don't know if they're
00:36:51
credible or not mhm so we don't really have anything to go out and arrest this guy on but oh he already has a warrant
00:36:59
out for him by this other jurisdiction and he's on probation so we got some leverage here so it's going to be the
00:37:08
Clark County Indiana authorities that will go out looking for Bryce rhods not just to not just to serve their warrants
00:37:17
and arrest him but also to help out the Louisville Police Department and it only
00:37:24
took them thankfully a couple of days to find Bryce rhods and bring this guy in in the meantime per The Courier Journal
00:37:34
newspaper quote homicide detectives track down one of the two alleged teenage accomplice this was 15-year-old
00:37:43
an Juan Carter and began interviewing him while searching for the 25-year-old Bryce rhods their Prime Suspect police
00:37:53
also arrested another accomplice this is jakori Taylor age 17 they started interviewing these
00:38:01
juveniles to amass evidence against 25-year-old Bryce roads what are we seeing here Captain this loser Bryce
00:38:09
who's he running around with did you catch all those ages 14 15 16 and 17 what you got no friends no I think
00:38:18
he's I really think he's a pedo I I would be interested to to to hear them um to hear the
00:38:27
juveniles talk about you know other things and I wouldn't put it past him as being
00:38:35
a pedo I you're starting to convince me here I at first I thought well that's an
00:38:40
interesting take makes sense cuz we've seen it in other cases in other neighborhoods throughout
00:38:46
time yeah this is something that happens you might be on to something here Captain so on Tuesday May 24th police
00:38:54
spotted roads vehicle on Preston Highway they arrested him on the outstanding warrant in Indiana and were able to hold
00:39:03
him while they worked to gather evidence in the Larry Maurice murder cases and they slapped him with additional charges
00:39:12
stemming from an attack on his own mother apparently Bryce's mother alleged that Bryce grabbed her by the neck and
00:39:21
punched her in the temple as she attempted to unload groceries his teenage sister called the police but
00:39:30
at that time this would be back in 2014 they did not arrest Bryce roads this for unknown reasons wait
00:39:38
so this is what drives me insane sometimes with these cases you go he he grabbed his mom by the throat punched
00:39:45
her in the temple and we didn't arrest this dick canoe right like maybe if we would arrested him there maybe if we
00:39:55
would have got him on these other other charges these murders would have never taken place that's certainly possible
00:40:02
again I don't know the reasons why he was not arrested that day so I don't want to I don't want to point blame at
00:40:08
anybody here but in a later interview his mother Bryce Road's mother said that Bryce has mental issues and has not been
00:40:16
taking his medication when he allegedly killed Maurice and lar she said that she
00:40:22
was out of town at the time that's going to come back to be important not so much
00:40:28
the medication thing or his mental issues or whatever but more so that she was out of town at the time of the
00:40:37
murder of these two young boys right so okay let's go through a little more of Bryce rh's background and criminal
00:40:45
history here the Clark County Indiana prosecutor this is Jeremy Maul was interviewed by the media and was very
00:40:54
forthcoming about Bryce's police criminal record he reeled off Road's previous convictions which included
00:41:02
armed robbery criminal confinement domestic assault and felony intimidation he was a registered sex
00:41:12
offender there you go captain in Indiana this would be for the confinement charge which involved an
00:41:20
underage victim I don't have I'm looking here I don't have the information if this underage victim was male or female
00:41:28
either way he's still a pedo and then here's a quote from the when I go to theou when I go to the jewelry store I'm
00:41:36
a pedo here's a quote from the prosecutor quote he's been out on probation they're
00:41:43
talking about Bryce rhods obviously he has been given all the resources of the taxpayers to turn his life around if he
00:41:51
wanted to do that unfortunately he just continues to acrew new crimes and what he wanted to say was unfortunately he's
00:41:58
just a giant pile of [ __ ] right yeah you're right this seems like a very polite way to uh to word this about
00:42:08
Bryce rhods now remember that we said that police had arrested some teenage accomplice of Bryce rhods and one of
00:42:16
these accompli told police that he along with Maurice and Larry witnessed the Christopher Jones shooting okay
00:42:26
another was the the the boy the young man that said he accidentally ran over Jones after the shooting so Bryce rhods
00:42:35
had multiple teen accompli how do do we know how these accompli came forward did
00:42:42
they did they come forward or well it wasn't difficult because what you have is you have the the mother telling
00:42:50
police after her sons are found dead right but it wasn't difficult because we have the mother telling police look my
00:42:57
boy's left with Bryce rhods Anan Carter and jakori Taylor so what happens in Captain is they go all right well let's
00:43:06
go look for these three guys and ask them when's the last time they saw Maurice and Larry right and when you go
00:43:13
especially when you have young offenders when you have an Juan Carter who's only 15 you have jakori Taylor
00:43:22
who's only 17 you go and talk to them you put you turn the heat up a little bit and usually you start getting
00:43:29
information from these these young guys yeah you start going uh we know uh you want to turn your boyfriend Bryce in
00:43:38
because if you don't uh we're going to charge you as an adult and you're going to have many more boyfriends in your
00:43:45
life well and that's exactly what's going to happen so what we have here is both very quickly tell the police yes I
00:43:54
I was with Bryce and I was with the the other young man and we did in fact pick up Maurice and Larry that night so this
00:44:02
is the information they got from the mother is now being backed up by these young people Anan Carter and jakori
00:44:08
Taylor I also wonder how much again you get picked up you're riding around with people you know and I know and I I can
00:44:19
say from my own experience I've hung out with the wrong crowd and I learned pretty quickly when
00:44:26
you when somebody picks you up and then all of a sudden you're around a situation you never thought you were
00:44:32
supposed to be around you know right you walk into somebody's house and next thing you know uh there's a bunch of
00:44:38
drugs on the table and that's not you don't feel comfortable or there's drugs on the table and there's guns around and
00:44:46
you're going what and you're the youngest guy in the room there's there's situations that sometimes you didn't
00:44:54
even know you're you're getting into right uh and that's the problem with the bad crowd well and if there's any young
00:45:01
people out there listening and you happen to find yourself in a situation I know it it's uncomfortable and it
00:45:08
doesn't it doesn't seem easy but leave that's the best thing you can do if you go all of a sudden you're like oh my God
00:45:15
who am I hanging out with what's going on all this stuff they said before I thought they were joking yeah or never
00:45:21
again once you get back home never again I I say get out of there soon as you can
00:45:27
as soon as you can um and but but it's difficult you know I mean I remember hanging out with a group of older guys
00:45:35
and we went to the apartment and right before we went into the apartment they told me don't look at the guy I went
00:45:41
what wait don't look at the guy yeah just who is he Medusa look at the ground and I was like look at the ground
00:45:47
they're like well he doesn't know you so he's going to be uncomfortable well why
00:45:51
why the [ __ ] are we going there if this if I can't can't look at the guy in his
00:45:57
face and he's going to be so uncomfortable that some you again most teenagers are dumb I was a dumb teenager
00:46:03
once we yeah why are we going there we we don't know ask any of those guys today they go yeah I don't know why we
00:46:10
went there uh but what you have here Captain is they're going to be looking for all three of these individuals that
00:46:15
are named by the mom when they do pick them up we have the the younger two saying yes in fact I was there uh Bryce
00:46:23
did pick them up that night on that Saturday so now they they have nobody else telling them that Maurice and Larry
00:46:31
ever went anywhere else at any point right and they're going to know roughly about what time or what day that the
00:46:39
boys were killed because we have a short window to work with here they're found relatively
00:46:45
quickly and you have them telling police just enough just enough to keep them going so police are going to go you know
00:46:53
what we don't have any confessions here we don't have a huge amount of evidence but we got all three of these people
00:47:00
putting themselves with the victims around the time that we believe that they were murdered so we're going to
00:47:06
charge you guys why are we going to charge all three of you because we're hoping that once we crank up the heat
00:47:12
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Episode Highlights

  • Tragic Loss of Two Brothers
    Larry and Maurice, two brothers from Louisville, were found murdered, shocking their community.
    “Everybody knows them, they got killed over nothing.”
    @ 13m 00s
    November 16, 2023
  • A Mother's Plea
    Marie Ren pleads for information about her sons' deaths, revealing their vibrant lives.
    “Everybody knows them, they got killed over nothing.”
    @ 13m 00s
    November 16, 2023
  • The Influence of a Bad Crowd
    Detective Todd Kissinger highlights how easily good kids can fall into bad situations.
    “All it takes is for you to be hanging out with the wrong crowd.”
    @ 14m 45s
    November 16, 2023
  • The Tragic Reality of Youth
    Two teenage boys, Maurice and Larry, are caught in a dangerous situation with an older man, Bryce Rhods, leading to a tragic end.
    “These kids are terrified now and he's just dropping them off at their house.”
    @ 33m 50s
    November 16, 2023
  • The Consequences of Bad Choices
    Bryce Rhods, a 25-year-old with a violent past, becomes a central figure in the investigation of the murders of Maurice and Larry.
    “You're hanging out with the wrong crowd.”
    @ 34m 41s
    November 16, 2023
  • Police Interrogation
    The police aim to apply pressure on suspects to elicit confessions.
    “We're hoping that once we crank up the heat, one of you will come to your senses.”
    @ 47m 09s
    November 16, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • Everybody knows them, they got killed over nothing.
    Brice Rhodes /// Part 1 /// 493
  • All it takes is for you to be hanging out with the wrong crowd.
    Brice Rhodes /// Part 1 /// 493
  • He lured these kids in by buying them shoes.
    Brice Rhodes /// Part 1 /// 493
  • These kids are terrified now and he's just dropping them off at their house.
    Brice Rhodes /// Part 1 /// 493
  • You're hanging out with the wrong crowd.
    Brice Rhodes /// Part 1 /// 493
  • If you find yourself in a situation, leave.
    Brice Rhodes /// Part 1 /// 493

Key Moments

  • Holiday Traditions00:05
  • True Crime Introduction01:43
  • Mother's Plea13:15
  • Missing Boys25:33
  • Police Investigation27:21
  • Police Pressure47:09
  • Music Promotion47:32
  • Home Improvement48:34

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