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foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] foreign enthusiasts know often serial offenders carry a moniker
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or nickname who could forget such terrifying titles like The Night Stalker and the Green
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River Killer there was the Hillside Strangler and the servant girl annihilator these names were bestowed upon these
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killers by the press and even the law enforcement agencies that investigated their crimes
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in some cases the killer simply cannot wait long enough for the press or law enforcement to come up with a clever or
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even not so clever name so some Killers provide the press and law enforcement with a name to call them
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until they are discovered outed and pulled into the light from the Dark Shadows where they hide
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Jack the Ripper pen letters to the police authentic or otherwise giving himself what he called the trade name
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when he signed the famous deer boss letter Yours Truly Jack the Ripper David Berkowitz
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wrote to NYPD Captain Joseph Borelli telling him I am deeply hurt by you calling me a woman hater I am not but I
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am a monster I am the Son of Sam now in the garage we examine another Infamous serial killer one that provided
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the Press with his title when he told the San Francisco Examiner deer editor this is the Zodiac speaking
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the Zodiac was laying claim to three unsolved homicides in the San Francisco Bay Area
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he would go on to kill again we have five confirmed murders in this series some say the number of those murdered by
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the Zodiac should be between 20 and 28. the Zodiac claims to have killed as many
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as 37 innocent victims still to this day this series of murders remains unsolved and the one who called
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himself the zodiac is yet to be identified this is true crime garage [Music] we're going to start off on a Friday in
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Vallejo California Vallejo is a waterfront city located in the San Francisco Bay area of the state of
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California this is where the Zodiac will find his first two victims or two of his
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earliest victims because as we will later see there is much debate on when and where the Zodiac started killing
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on the night of Friday December 20th 1968. sixteen-year-old Betty Lou Johnson and 17 year old David Arthur Faraday
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were out together on what most have reported to be their first date some reports state that the two dated briefly
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before the following incident both were very good students in fact later it was said that the two really had very little
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time for Teenage romance as both were quite focused on their schooling and extracurricular activities David Faraday
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was a top student and a member of The Varsity wrestling team at Vallejo high school he was an eagle scout as well and
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the recipient of the god and Country award Betty Lou Jensen was a top student at Hogan High School the attack on the
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two teens on this Friday December 20th would leave both shot to death the early reports state that the two
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went to a high school Christmas concert at Betty Lou Jensen's High School just several blocks away from Betty Lou's
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home they were going to attend a party after and at some point the two went for a drive and were met with gunfire later
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reports would indicate that maybe the two teens misled their parents David Faraday borrowed his mother's 1961
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Rambler station wagon and drove to Betty Lou Jensen's house where he picked her up the two left there about 8 30 PM
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instead of going to the concert the two went to a friend's house where they hung
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out for about a half an hour from there they went to Mr Ed's restaurant and Drive-In
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where they ordered a Coke and sat and chatted for a while after the stop at Mr Ed's restaurant and
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Drive-In the teens went for a drive and they ended up at Lake Herman Road which is an isolated country road known
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as a Lover's Lane they parked in the lovers lane area just off of the winding dirt road for reference this is about 10
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miles away from Betty Lou Jensen's house and school the slain couple were found just before 11 30 PM that night by a
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passing motorist this is Mrs Manuel Borges who was in route to the nearby town of Benicia California Benicia is
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considerably smaller than the City of Vallejo and Lake Herman is basically between the two Benicia is east of
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Vallejo the vehicle was just outside the fence to the lake Herman pumping station
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Mrs Manuel Borges lived off of Lake Herman Road and as she is driving she couldn't help but notice the vehicle
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parked she saw the passenger door open David was lying on his back blood around him and his feet were toward the rear
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wheels of the vehicle some reports have Betty Lou's body found as close as 10 feet from the rear of the vehicle others
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say as many as 30 feet away either way it was obvious to the detectives that Betty Lou was in the
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process of running away from the scene when she was gunned down there's an interview with the lead detective and in
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it he says Betty Lou was 28 feet from the back of the car so that's got to be right
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reports state that the girl had been shot five times in the upper right side of her back from a range of no more than
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10 feet Mrs Borges was of course horrified at this discovery she jumped back in her car and sped away
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when she got to Benicia she flagged down a police car she told them what she had
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found and the two Benicia officers raced to the scene when they arrived they found David Faraday still breathing
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they called for police backup detectives and an ambulance Betty Lou was dead at the scene Faraday was rushed to the
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nearest hospital let's talk about what was found at the murder scene according to what was
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released at the time police will find the Rambler car hood still warm when they get to the scene the ignition was
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on and I'm guessing likely to run either the heater or the radio or both because
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the two were planning on sitting there for a while this is odd though the front passenger
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door was open the other three doors and the tailgate to the vehicle were all closed and locked so some have surmised
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that maybe the attacker was able to force both youths out the same door the front passenger door however I found a
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report that states that there were footprints that detectives say indicate that Faraday got out of the driver's
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door and walked to the passenger side and I have to wonder could these be the killers Footprints and not David
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faradays right did he walk up to the driver's door put the gun on Faraday and force the two out the passenger door and
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walk around to greet them on the other side David was shot in the head at close range the bullet traveled forward from
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behind his left ear detectives found four bullet casings near the vehicle the only thing they would say about the
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bullets at the time is that they came from a small caliber gun one report specifically says small caliber rifle
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one report says a 22 caliber which of course is a small caliber investigators said the girl had not been molested and
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that robbery was not the motive an even at close range something with such a small shot it's like a 22 it's going to
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take more than one shot to kill it most individuals it will however if you do any Research into Hitmen and things of
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that nature they often prefer to use a small caliber specifically a 22 because they're doing head shots right and I
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won't get into that too much but the bullet tends to bounce around inside quite a bit more than a larger caliber
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police even threw out some theories to the newspaper the day after and two days after the homicides and these theories
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include the following a deep heel print possibly from a boot was found in what they described as the brush grown area
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in the rear of a fencing this is running around the pump house right detectives say that the Brushy growth would be the
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only concealment offered to a sniper so that's interesting because of several reasons one this is to suggest the
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possibility that the killer was there before the couple even arrived in this theory he would be
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lying in weight in the brush hidden and then when the two Park he emerges from that Brushy growth area that they
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mentioned and takes control of the would-be victims well it makes a lot of sense because they would not see
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headlights they want to have time to react well if the perpetrator showed up in a
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vehicle they would have at least some warning that he was coming it's also interesting because I don't know exactly
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where this fencing and Brushy growth area is in relationship to the victim's vehicle
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and I say that this could be important because it could go against or for the next item because deputy said that there
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was a bullet hole in the rear window of the vehicle leading them to theorize that Faraday stopped the car and was
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fired on from behind again you'd have to think that the killer would have to know
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this area somewhat to even know that this Lover's Lane existed yes and the thing here too Captain what I'm trying
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to point out about this sniper hiding in the bushes scenario right from where the
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shots would have been fired at the two victims the killer had to be standing beside the vehicle so a stray shot
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hitting this rear window from that Vantage Point makes no sense it didn't just happen this was a shot that was
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likely intentionally fired into the back of the vehicle right meaning I think that the killer probably approached the
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two victims from the rear of the vehicle and then worked as way to the side where
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he eventually shot and killed both you have this secluded area again I think the killer would have to know the area
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it's almost like they'd have to know the area so well that maybe they fired the shot not intentionally to kill somebody
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initially into the back window but to get them to like scram flee the area in the vehicle or flee the vehicle to flee
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the vehicle so I lay and wait the car comes in they start talking I creep behind them I shoot the window and by
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shooting the window I have it's game on and now they're in full panic mode and that's what I'm interested in as far as
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the the kill the other theories are that the couple may have already been parked
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and someone pulled in nearby and startled the two or they were trailed and pulled over or trailed to the spot
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and then the killer returned to get them whatever ever happened Captain it happened relatively quickly and probably
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not too long before Mrs Borges found them because the car hood was still warm and David Faraday was still alive we do
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know that we have possible boot prints and like you said are those the male victims Footprints or those The Killers
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Footprints but it doesn't seem like we have tire marks from some other vehicle that is true there's
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no mention of tire marks from another vehicle a faraday died on arrival at the hospital at 1205 and this is very
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unfortunate not just because he passed he's he's now a murder victim but for the investigation itself because
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police at the time thought okay we have this attack these on these two young teens the female victim did not survive
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were rushing the male victim to the hospital hopefully we can save his life but also we want to talk to this guy so
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he can tell us and give us details about this attack so we can find the perpetrator because Faraday passed away
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this would not be possible for the detectives now the detectives were on the scene investigating by midnight that
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night the Solano County Sheriff's Office was the investigating agency now to fill
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out the timeline a little better the teens left Betty Lou Jensen's place at 8 30. they went to a friend's house for
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about 30 minutes okay so now 9 pm at the earliest they leave and go get a coke at
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Ed's from there they go driving again about a 10 mile distance out to where the vehicle would later be found several
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witnesses spotted the vehicle at the park location off of Hermann Lake Road this is at 10 15 10 35 and again at 11
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PM this is based off of witness statements that David Faraday must have turned the vehicle around at some point
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after it was initially parked at that spot which again makes you wonder and question the shot to the rear of the
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vehicle another witness said that they stopped their vehicle on the side of the road that night this would be near the
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murder scene right these two witnesses were young and they were on a date as well they said that they stopped the
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vehicle to their vehicle to check something on the vehicle and while stopped they said that another vehicle
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slowed down and the driver was just kind of looking at them and then he went past
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the vehicle then stopped and then backed up toward them and this spooked the couple so they got into their vehicle
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and drove off they said that the vehicle Then followed them for several minutes but eventually
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they lost this car well first of all I mean I think we both we disagree on a lot of things but what we can probably
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agree on is this couple that possibly saw the killer that night they didn't stop their car to check on a
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part they're out at a leverage Lane they're probably out there to talk flirt a little necking and then they see
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this creep come upon them and he stares them down and like you said backs the vehicle up
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starts to Spook him but I think I think that was the play you know stop the car back it up stop it
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again act a little creepy to get them to start moving and then you can follow them to see where they went yes this is
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under the idea that maybe the Zodiac was just out there driving around trolling looking for potential victims now they
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state that the vehicle the the suspicious vehicle they described it as a blue Plymouth Valiant and they said
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that this incident took place around 9 30 p.m another witness said that they saw a white four-door Chevy Impala
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parked near David Faraday's car now keep in mind Faraday is driving his mother's
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Rambler it's a station wagon so Faraday's car will be a little more noticeable than the other standard
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two-door sedans or four-door standards of sedans out there driving around do you know if it's if it was a woody I've
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I've looked up the vehicle I can't recall no woody on Lover's Lane there are pictures of Faraday's vehicle online
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it was later reported that 10 shell casings were found so let's examine this number a bit I guess that number is
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fairly easy to get to when you really think about it because Betty Lou is stated to have been shot five times
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David is shot at least once so now we're at six casings right and there was that
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shot that hit the back of the vehicle so now we're at seven later the Zodiac himself would say 10 shots were fired at
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the scene John Douglas said that not only were bullet casings found near the vehicle but also on the floorboards of
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the vehicle so if this is correct then this would indicate to me that the gun was fired inside the car at some point
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or at least close enough to an open door or window that the casings fell inside the vehicle we did have some early
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suspects in this case that were looked at one there was a teen boy that was said to have had a thing for Betty Lou
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and I don't know if the two had any type of relationship or if they ever dated but it seems that this teen went so far
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as to threaten David Faraday at some point this teen was looked at and cleared the other suspect would be an unknown
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individual the Jensen family thought that maybe there was either a Peeping Tom or someone spying on the family or
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Betty Lou in particular around the time of her murder right seven months later the timeline of the next event in our
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murder series timeline again will start on a Friday and again will take place in
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and around Vallejo California this time it's Friday July 4th Independence Day 1969.
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22 year old Darlene Elizabeth Farren was a popular and sociable young woman she was well educated a mother of one child
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a daughter named Dina Darlene was married to her second husband Dean and the three lived on
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Monterey Street both Dean and Darlene had a lot of friends now Captain out of all of the zodiac victims well at least
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the confirmed five murders and two attempted murders I would put Darlene at the top of the list when it comes to the
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highest probability that the Killer and victim knew one another this would be because of Darlene and Dean's sociable
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Lifestyles and employment they knew a lot of people they had a lot of friends right and they had a lot of people over
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to their house very often so it could have been a friend of a friend hosting and attending parties both small and
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large now Darlene worked at a place called Terry's restaurant and one thing that is very curious Darlene Farren told
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a co-worker that she knew the two victims David and Betty Lou Jensen or at least knew of them well that makes some
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sense because Darlene attended Hogan high school years earlier this is the same high school as Betty Lou Jensen
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that night Dean and Darlene were going to have friends over Dean was at work he was a cook at Caesar's restaurant
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Darlene had a babysitter she stopped by Dean's work to tell him that she and her younger sister were off
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to watch the parade boats there Dean asked if Darlene would pick up some fireworks on her way home
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he and some friends wanted to set them off that night for the holiday right Darlene and her sister then went to
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Darlene's work again Terry's restaurant this is to tell some co-workers that her
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and Dean were hosting a party and they should come by after their shifts the two went off to the boat parade and
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after they again went to Dean's work by now it's getting late but of course work
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shifts run late at restaurants on Friday nights Darlene then went back to her work very briefly and then went home
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before letting the babysitter go for the night she went out again first she took
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her little sister home and dropped her off right and then she went and picked up her friend this is 19 year old Mike
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Maggio it sounds like Mike was expecting Darlene at some point that night but regardless Mike seemed to leave his
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house in a hurry leaving without turning off the TV and the lights the two were going to go purchase fireworks for the
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par party later that part is for sure yeah but whether or not they plan on parking somewhere or not is Up For
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Debate Darlene was driving her Chevy Corvair some sources say early in the drive a car seemed to be following them
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right the car was light in color the original idea was the two wanted to go get something to eat but at some
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point it changed to the two we're going to look for a quiet place to talk neck Mike says that this is why they
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were heading to the park right Mike says they turned around at Mr Ed's restaurant
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and Drive-In so they could change Directions They Drove briefly and then they pulled into Blue Rock Springs Park
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this was known as a good place to park now if there was in fact a car following them in this version of the night's
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events the car that was following them then pulled into the lot as well and then sped off the report is either
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the same vehicle or one very close to the same description later returned and pulled in behind them right the
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vehicle's lights shining on Darlene's car then not knowing what was going on Mike
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was shocked and the shooter just kept firing on him and Darlene Darlene was shot a total of nine times the shooter
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then walked back to his vehicle and Mike says he got a good look at the guy he described the assailant as a white guy
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late 20s 26 to 30 years old with short curly light brown hair stocky about five foot eight inches tall and about 195 to
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200 pounds possibly more the man was wearing a blue windbreaker and pleated pants unfortunately
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Mike is in a terrible amount of pain and made some noise some Reports say that he
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cried out yeah and this could have tipped off to the killer that they were still alive the shooter walked back to
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Darlene's vehicle and shot both Darlene and Mike two more times after the shooter left Mike opened the car's
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passenger door and fell out of the car lying on the ground the couple was found shortly after midnight by three young
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people who called the police police received a call about the shooting at 10 after midnight and quickly officers in a
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detective arrived on the scene the police report says police arrived at 12 38 a.m there they found Darlene barely
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alive slumped over the steering wheel and Mike in really bad shape lying outside of the car yeah I think with the
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Zodiac was was always missing and my brain is why but as you're pointing out we have a couple that does not become a
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victim but possibly sees the Zodiac and the zodiacs kind of toying with them maybe testing the waters a little bit
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and then here if these reports are correct he pulls up next to a car that like we said they're sitting there
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talking maybe making out and this guy pulls up seeming to be a solo driver what are you some perv that's going to
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watch and then he backs away and then comes back and Parks right behind them it's almost like he wants to
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induce some kind of panic he wants to induce the reaction first and then it's game on
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and so do you think in your humble go opinion is is this because he wants to see them in fear or or or what
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well one thing we will learn about this killer is that he enjoys watching the reactions of
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the masses so why wouldn't he enjoy seeing the terrified reaction of those that he is hunting or attacking yeah the
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question I have about the two younger people that say that they saw a suspicious vehicle and provided a
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description of such I wanted to find a description of the vehicle they were driving again that
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goes back to the idea of David Faraday's vehicle the Rambler is a station wagon would look considerably different than
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most of the other vehicles just out on the street that night right if they were driving a station wagon as well well
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that tells me a different story that maybe the Zodiac was actually targeting Faraday's car or the the two people in
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the vehicle so that was one thing that I looked for and again yes why will be a huge question when it comes to the
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Zodiac because for the five murdered victims it's very very likely that he did not
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know any of them of course we see that often with these serial killers but this is a unique situation unlike any of the
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others that we've talked about so far now again we have at the second murder scene we have the police on scene at 12
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38 a.m at that time the buses were in route that's cops speak for ambulance on the way right the cops pulled Darlene
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from the vehicle remember she slumped over the steering wheel the cops all believed that she was trying to tell
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them something and specifically they said that she was either saying I or me or something of that nature but
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they couldn't make it out and they never really got any words from her but this is something where I go back to the idea
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of because of her lifestyle and her husband's lifestyle and where they worked I put her probability of victim
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and killer knowing each other significantly higher than a lot of the other victims and you have to wonder
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when they're pulling her from the vehicle did she believe she knew who attacked them and was trying to tell the
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officers that when they were trying to save her life foreign [Music] [Music] we're back cheers mates cheers to you
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colonel cheers to you Captain cheers to all of the people out there in listener land
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and all the people in the back we have victims Michael Maggio and Darlene Farren they were rushed to Kaiser
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Hospital Darlene was DOA and Mike was rushed into surgery and two days later reported to be in quote satisfactory
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condition Mike Maggio survived the attack despite being shot in the face neck and chest
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the newspapers at the time reported that each victim was shot three times so it looks like this would be one piece of
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hold back information the number of shots fired because we already said Darlene we would later
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learn was shot a total of nine times do you think that the Killer is leaving them on the brink of life or do you
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think they just don't know well I think that the killer was successful in his first attack killing both of the victims
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at the scene and I think that he absolutely thought that he was successful again at the second attack
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having killed both victims and we now know that Mike Maggio survived and we'll get into that why there's evidence that
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the killer believed that both were dead back to the number of shots we know that
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Darlene was shot nine times and it does look like Mike was likely shot three times the newspaper said seven nine
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millimeter cartridges were found near the car the car's windows were open the ignition was on and the car was in gear
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it appears that the vehicle stalled out the radio was on now because Mike survived he was able to tell the police
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quite a bit about the incident right per John Douglas the gun used was thought to
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be a Browning high power semi-automatic handgun police put this together because
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of Mike's description of the attack and that the shooter did not seem to stop to
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reload the gun at any point so this compared with the nine millimeter casings and the total number
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of shots of course known to police at the time indicated what type of gun was used
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this is because similar guns you would have to stop and reload to get off that number of shots yeah hold on I'm
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reloading I'm not saying that they're incorrect they very likely are correct but one thing I want to point out is in
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Mike's description of the events the killer shot both he and Darlene and then returned to his vehicle right and at
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which time Mike cried out and Mike it's very interesting because Mike says he does not know why
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he he cried out if if he was reacting to something or if he was just in a terrible amount of pain right but then
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the killer returns shoots Darlene twice and then shoots Mike twice almost to make sure like okay I'm gonna make sure
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both of them are dead or if I didn't finish one or both of them off I now have I question if there was an
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opportunity when the killer went back to their vehicle if in fact the killer went back to the vehicle for
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the purpose of reloading cockroaches want to play keep in mind Mike's been shot he's in a good deal of pain there
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are some things some details of that event that he could be misremembering one's possible he's also going in and
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out of Consciousness well and we also know that Mike Maggio would tell more than one version of the story to police
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when they were investigating this homicide yeah but I also think some of that is that you're trying so
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hard to remember uh and and the more they question you were more look you're probably not just
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getting questioned by police you're being questioned by your friends also hey what do you remember man and then
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how many people told him man if you could just remember something more maybe we could catch the guy that'd be very
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frustrating the location of the murder scene is only about two miles away from the lake Herman Road murders so given
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the short time frame of just seven months and two miles apart and the similarities to the crimes it would not
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have taken long for the police to suspect that the two were connected but they would not have to figure this out
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for themselves because at 12 40 A.M a man phoned the Vallejo Police Department to report and claim
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responsibility for the attack the killer also took credit for the murders of Jensen and Faraday six and a half months
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earlier here are the details of that call ejo police dispatcher 26 year old Nancy
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Slover took the call Nancy Slover described the mail caller's voice and tone as though he was mocking and
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taunting her for shock value and if in fact he was she said it worked the caller spoke the following words in a
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monotone rehearsed fashion I want to report a double murder if you will go one mile East on Columbus
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Parkway to the public park you will find the kids in a brown car right they were
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shot with a nine millimeter Luger I also killed those kids last year goodbye yeah a couple things I mean
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first of all he calls them kids so I'm not saying that we should assume but you can start off by going well he's
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probably older than the victims he's definitely older in my opinion and by this time of course
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he's read all of the details about his first crimes about the first two murders and he knows whether he knew Faraday
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and Jensen before shooting them he definitely knew who they were after he killed them
00:34:33
because their names in ages where they went to school their parents names and addresses were all found in the local
00:34:40
papers for those of you who have seen the David Fincher film zodiac that is the creepy phone call at the six minute
00:34:49
Mark of the movie yeah where the killer reports a double murder that's again why
00:34:55
I think he thought he finished them both off his words before anything gets on the news or anything gets in the paper
00:35:02
for him to learn that someone survived he's calling and not reporting a murder he's re or an attack he's reporting
00:35:10
specifically a double murder right but back to the movie The Zodiac if anybody has not seen the movie Zodiac it's one
00:35:21
of the best True Crime dramas it's incredibly good and it was considered to be a box office failure which does not
00:35:30
make a whole lot of sense to me I love the movie I've seen it half a dozen times
00:35:35
anyway this phone call from the Zodiac we need to point out this was not this call was not recorded repeat not a
00:35:44
recorded call it's been widely reported that the call was recorded but listen to
00:35:49
the goat it was not and we know this simply because the police dispatcher says they did not have the equipment at
00:35:56
their disposal to record incoming calls at that time so it's not that they didn't record they failed to record just
00:36:03
this call they just didn't record any of them because they didn't have the capability so that is very important for
00:36:10
several reasons the first being that Nancy the dispatcher would have to recall the caller's message after the
00:36:17
caller hung up so it's not verbatim which I believe to be important as some have pointed out
00:36:23
the directions provided by the Zodiac were actually incorrect this would likely mean that the Zodiac did not know
00:36:32
the area well right however you have to keep in mind that the killer caller would not want to give directions from
00:36:43
the pay phone where he's calling from duh he's going to give them directions from the police department to get the
00:36:50
police to where the kids are located do you understand what I'm saying yeah I've I've spoke English my whole life
00:36:57
okay two things that I believe are fully correct with Nancy's report of what the
00:37:03
caller said are double murder meaning zodiac intended to and had every reason to believe that he successfully
00:37:10
carried out his mission of killing both victims and I say that I believe that she's recalling this correctly because
00:37:16
she says that she was shocked by his tone number one but she's going to be shocked by his words as well double
00:37:25
murder double murder is something that you do not forget when you receive a very short quick phone call want a
00:37:32
burger get a burger wanna free fry get a free fry well he seems very uh smug yes
00:37:40
the other part the second part which I believe to be 100 correct and I find this to be super interesting at least to
00:37:49
me the fact that the Zodiac says to her if you go one mile East on Columbus Parkway to the public park you will find
00:37:56
the kids in a brown car regardless if people believe that the directions are correct or incorrect
00:38:03
again I made an argument that you wouldn't give directions from your location that you're calling from you
00:38:09
would give directions from the police department to where the kids are but let's scrap that entirely right why the
00:38:16
hell is the Zodiac giving directions to what he calls the public park why wouldn't he just name the park
00:38:25
right you would find the kids at so and so park in a brown car yeah if you knew the area he'd know the name of the park
00:38:33
if he doesn't know the name of the area it's just awesome park right he says public parking offers directions to the
00:38:40
public park while we have already said it once Blue Rock Springs Park the park has a name Blue Rock Springs Park he
00:38:48
wants them to find the kids we know that he why else call the police unless you want them to find them so he wants them
00:38:56
to find the kids and he wants it to be known that he did both of these shootings the double
00:39:03
homicide the year before at Christmas and this one uh on this night right so if he knew the name of the park why
00:39:10
wouldn't he just say the name of the park to make sure that the police got to the right place
00:39:17
and again if you say the name of the park you don't need to give any directions at all the call should have
00:39:21
been I want to report a double murder you will find the kids in a brown car at Blue Rock Springs Park they were shot
00:39:28
with a nine millimeter Luger I also killed those kids last year goodbye goodbye also the location of the phone
00:39:38
call is strange police trace the call to a phone booth at a gas station at Springs Road in tulaloom this is located
00:39:46
about three tenths of a mile from Darlene farren's home and only a few blocks from the Vallejo Police
00:39:53
Department I don't think this location is weird because of the distance to the victim's
00:39:58
home or the police station right it's weird because of the distance from Blue Rock Springs Park the public park where
00:40:06
he shot them and it seems he may not have known the name of the park So based off of eyewitnesses and ear
00:40:14
Witnesses for that fact the latest that Darlene and Mike could have been shot would have been maybe 12
00:40:21
10 am most believe that it was more likely between 1202 and 1204 am why is this important well we know that the
00:40:30
call from the killer came in at 12 40 AM so depending on how you shake it out there is approximately 30 to 38 minutes
00:40:41
after the attack before the phone call the fastest routes from the murder scene to the phone booth is seven and a half
00:40:50
minutes nine minutes and 11 minutes three different routes the three fastest routes so what took him so long to get
00:40:59
from murder scene to the phone booth where he called it in so you're saying there's about 20 to 30 minutes of
00:41:05
missing time but that doesn't mean he necessarily was traveling he could have already got to
00:41:12
the phone booth and decided why I don't know what to say yet what am I going to say
00:41:18
I'm gonna I I have to prepare this even though his conversation was pretty simple
00:41:24
it was pretty direct it's pretty kind of demeaning uh smug like I said before but maybe he just sat there well my
00:41:34
first thought was maybe he just hung out around the murder scene to watch what was going on we already speculated that
00:41:43
maybe this killer enjoys seeing the reaction of his actions so maybe he hung out there until he started hearing the
00:41:52
police sirens and then took off and then made the call but the problem with that
00:41:57
is this drive the fastest route would be seven to maybe 11 minutes distance the cops were on the scene at 12 38 the call
00:42:06
came in at 12 40. so the sirens aren't what scared him from the scene he very likely left shortly after shooting the
00:42:16
victims and we have this based off of eyewitness and ear witness statements so if he left immediately
00:42:25
afterward why do we have that that difference in time and it could be something as silly as he just drove
00:42:31
around for a while or didn't know what Payphone he wanted to use there's also the chance that he's not from the area
00:42:38
and that's why he doesn't know the name of the park and he also doesn't know where a phone booth is right to make
00:42:45
this call he went and had to go looking for a phone booth one piece of speculation that I thought was very
00:42:51
interesting was somebody pointed out the high probability that the killer would have got victim's blood on their
00:42:58
clothing or person and that this phone booth is in a highly residential area meaning
00:43:06
if the killer didn't want anybody living witnesses to see his vehicle right maybe
00:43:13
it's as simple as he drove home parked his car changed his clothes so he wouldn't be covered in blood and walked
00:43:21
to a pay phone or then drove across town to another Payphone that makes up for the lapse in time
00:43:28
I actually think it's something a little more sadistic I think it's something a little more sick driving around flicking
00:43:36
it the whole time I think and we know how these killers operate they love to return to the scene of the crime they
00:43:45
love to pull the purple-headed yogurt Slinger the lake Herman Road murders that took place six and a half months
00:43:50
earlier is only two miles distance from the most recent attack right I think there's a good
00:43:58
chance that maybe he shot these two victims and then drove to the old murder scene
00:44:07
maybe even to reenact it or live it out or or just kind of look at the area right admiring his work because if you
00:44:15
map out a route from murder scene to murder scene and then to the pay phone well you're left with a whole lot less
00:44:23
of uh unaccounted for time right but I also wonder you said this uh Payphone was pretty close to the police
00:44:32
department correct I wonder if there's again like we know that he wants to kind of induce Panic he wants to see this
00:44:40
fear in their eyes I wonder he likes to see the reaction I wonder if he wanted to see if anybody called
00:44:50
the the police and to see if the police were already reacting to it that's a possibility like I'm going to drive by
00:44:57
the police department and see if people are in in route yet so let's go through Mike majo's statements of what he says
00:45:04
happened that night because we now have a surviving victim a a living Witness he says now remember he said at some
00:45:14
point that they might have been followed early but and that's what led them to parking at the Blue Rock Springs Park in
00:45:23
that version of the story he says that it was a light colored car that was following them and this is very
00:45:29
interesting and remember we had mention of a white American car in the first attack on Lake Herman Road so a white
00:45:38
American car again making an appearance in this version of the story right there
00:45:44
was also a situation where Darlene's Sister Christina said that Darlene our newest victim had a heated conversation
00:45:54
with a man in a white car in the parking lot of Terry's restaurant on one of their trips to the restaurant that night
00:46:01
remember they went to the restaurant a couple times she says on one of those occasions she
00:46:07
witnessed her sister arguing with a man she did not know his name and this man was in a white vehicle
00:46:15
but then when you dive in and take a look at the statement Mike gave to Police from his hospital bed and this
00:46:22
version of the story he says nothing about being followed in fact he says they pulled into the lot to talk and
00:46:29
shortly after a few other cars pulled in these were all believed to be other teens
00:46:36
Mike says A car pulled in and just kind of sat running and watching them for maybe a minute or two then the car sped
00:46:44
off the car then came back and pulled up behind them the way that a cop car would
00:46:50
Mike says that though through a very brief conversation the two of them both he and Darlene believed
00:46:57
that the person now parked behind them was in fact a police officer he says that the man got out with a high-powered
00:47:05
flashlight yeah like one used by police he says he couldn't see the man because he was shining the light directly at
00:47:13
them this is the old light blind technique that police will use then the man just started firing Mike's Hospital
00:47:21
account also includes Mike saying the gunfire was not loud that maybe the gunman use some type of
00:47:27
Silence so are you suggesting that Mike is saying that it's possible it was a cop and possibly some altered weapon
00:47:36
so it would like I said like a maybe like a man-made silencer on the gun he's saying the the manner that the vehicle
00:47:44
pulled up behind them would would be the way that a cop would typically stop someone the way that he felt that the
00:47:51
the person approached the vehicle the energy yeah that he he and Darlene didn't think that they were in any
00:47:59
danger because they thought that it was a cop walking up to inquire as to why they were just sitting there but then
00:48:05
you think as far as the Killer goes background security guard maybe was a patrol officer at some point maybe had
00:48:14
some military background correct and we we should be perfectly clear here he's not saying that it was a police car
00:48:20
right now because we have the description of the vehicle that he says that the gunman was driving that night
00:48:27
Mike Maggio's description of that vehicle he says that it looked a lot like Darlene's car maybe even the same
00:48:34
model so this would mean it would be a Chevy Corvair and then some have pointed out that back then the Ford Mustang
00:48:41
looked a lot like a Chevy Corvair so the police have always kind of said we believe that it was either a Chevy
00:48:47
Corvair or a Ford Mustang Mike Mojo says that the vehicle's color was about the same color
00:48:54
as Darlene's car so brown but he also says maybe a little lighter so I guess a light brown one interesting thing though
00:49:03
tan ban the tan sedan Mike said that he saw California license plates on the vehicle
00:49:10
he couldn't make out any of the numbers after he had been shot but he said he specifically remembers that it was in
00:49:17
fact California license plates right this second version of his story is probably more correct
00:49:26
and I say that for several reasons but one mainly because this version of the story is backed up by Darlene's sister
00:49:33
but hold on a second you're not saying because we have multiple people giving we very likely just have Mike majo
00:49:40
giving different versions of what I'm saying this is not the only person to give the police information so
00:49:47
far correct but but we're not saying that any of these victims in any way do we think they're lying to the police
00:49:55
we're just saying because of the chaotic situation that they were in and just heck just surviving is something there
00:50:05
has been some belief over the years that maybe Mike Maggio has purposely left out
00:50:10
some details really out of fear okay is one General thought the other thought is that he may have altered
00:50:19
some of the versions of that story and told different stories because he was in fact in love with Darlene and
00:50:27
didn't want to shame her after right she'd Fallen victim so that's why the story goes from
00:50:36
we were being followed and the car followed us into that parking spot to then later we went and parked so we
00:50:43
could have somewhere to talk the general thought is that Mike has never confirmed
00:50:47
this so we don't know the thought has been well maybe Mike made up a reason why the two would be parked there other
00:50:55
than they just wanted to go and park there if you know what I mean well yeah the other thing though too is keep in
00:51:00
mind this is a 19 year old boy who's been shot three times and was probably traumatized in all kinds of I
00:51:09
mean you couldn't even imagine yeah most definitely but again it's just like that
00:51:14
that one of the first couples that think they saw the Killer and then the killer
00:51:19
possibly followed them for a while and they're like well we were just stopped on the side of the road because
00:51:23
something broke in the car it's like no you you probably were making out you just didn't want to tell your parents I
00:51:29
mean we have to remember this is 1968 right 69 and Darlene was married 69. well and keep in mind this version
00:51:39
that we just went through he says that when they pulled into the parking area of the park that there were
00:51:46
already some other vehicles there they had reasons to believe that they were you know younger people just kind of
00:51:51
hanging out and that those Vehicles left and then the suspect's vehicle pulled up just
00:51:59
kind of sat there looking at him for a little bit drove off and then came back and the reason why I think that this
00:52:04
second version is the more likely is a statement based from Darlene's sister's account of the night's events she says
00:52:15
this is Pam Huckabee Darlene's younger sister says she hold on we have Betty Lou Jensen Huckabee these
00:52:24
are like the most 1960s names of all time names that you'd think you would hear on like a 60s sitcom or something
00:52:32
so Pam Huckabee says that she always believed that she missed witnessing the attack just by seconds she says quote I
00:52:40
was there in the parking lot just leaving when the car drove up behind her I relive it every fourth of July weekend
00:52:48
I wonder what I might have done differently the quote police car passed me going in as we were going out we
00:52:57
heard the pop pop but thought it was fireworks again so that we're clear she's not saying she saw a police car
00:53:05
right she's calling it that because Mike Maggio said that it behaved in the way that he believed a cop would pull them
00:53:14
over or approach their vehicle in the July 5th 1969 Vallejo Times Herald it read officers at the scene broadcast an
00:53:22
alert for a young heavyset white male adult riding in a brown automobile in the July 6 1969 Vallejo Times Herald it
00:53:33
read under the subheading brown car so it's obvious that police are looking for the man described to them by Mike Maggio
00:53:41
as well as this brown automobile I I'm pointing this out because we have this question mark of a white American car
00:53:50
but to be perfectly clear in the story that makes the most sense from Mike Maggio there is no white American car
00:53:57
it's a brown or light brown vehicle if it's brown or light brown flush it down but let's not look past the obvious
00:54:07
right we have a married woman hanging out with I guess you could almost assume they're they're at least flirtatious I
00:54:16
mean I don't know if you'd call it call him her boyfriend but she's married so number one suspect is always the husband
00:54:25
did it yes this is a unique situation so Mike Maggio and Darlene Farren were described by everyone including
00:54:33
Darlene's husband as good good friends right and so these were not people that were just hanging out for the first time
00:54:41
together in fact Darlene's husband said that Darlene had a lot of male friends and this did not bother him a lot of
00:54:52
that was based off of where they worked they both worked at restaurants and anybody that's worked at restaurants
00:54:58
will know that often people after their shifts they they tend to go out together
00:55:02
whether it be in a large group or a small group and so of course her husband Dean was looked at regardless of how he
00:55:11
felt about her hanging out with Mike or other men right he was looked at quite well the issue being that he was at work
00:55:20
he was still on his work shift at the time of the murder so he has not only just a good Alibi it's a it's a solid
00:55:29
Alibi so Dean farron has been cleared as well as two other individuals that were
00:55:36
male friends of Darlene Farren they were cleared as well so when we look back on
00:55:42
this case in the case before Captain we do have suspects that were looked at that were not the quote-unquote Zodiac
00:55:51
right what knew the victims and were in fact cleared by the local authorities in
00:55:57
those investigations and but you have to think for law enforcement once you roll
00:56:02
out those stereotypical suspects or suspects that you think are connected directly to the victims now you have to
00:56:10
step back and look at the whole picture and go or maybe we have a serial killer on our hands do you think there's any
00:56:17
possible way that this killer is using like a rental system or maybe even borrowing the cars from
00:56:25
different individuals I think the borrowing of vehicles is quite possible especially given the profile put forward
00:56:36
by some people over the years one profile states that the they would believe that the Zodiac may have lived
00:56:45
with a parent or parents for a considerable amount of their adult life and we know from other serial cases that
00:56:55
we have covered and I'm referencing the one I that comes immediately to mind is the Atlanta child killer case
00:57:03
where they were getting different descriptions of vehicles from connected victims
00:57:10
because sometimes he was driving his car other times he was driving his parents vehicle
00:57:15
and we've seen that in other cases as well where they will borrow someone's vehicle because they know they're going
00:57:22
to go out and commit the murders with it or flee the scene with it and if they're
00:57:26
seen they don't want to be seen in the vehicle that could be traced back to them right
00:57:31
so what do we know about this killer we both said that we think he likes to see the reaction
00:57:39
of the victims before he shoots them we know that he possibly has means to have or access to multiple Vehicles
00:57:51
we know he likes to toy with other individuals and we for him to follow around multiple eyewitnesses there's
00:58:00
probably other eyewitnesses that just never came forward because they didn't think much
00:58:04
of it he's trying to put himself in the right place at the right time so he can have an opportunity the things that I
00:58:11
would add to my thoughts about our killer is even though these two attacks took place relatively close to one
00:58:18
another a two-mile distance from each other I don't necessarily think that the killer has to be local again I question
00:58:24
why wouldn't he just say the name of the park rather than provide directions the
00:58:29
other thing that I suspect is going on here too is that the need to have a female victim yeah because in both
00:58:38
situations we see a similar Mo now of course we have to piece some of this together ourselves because nobody
00:58:46
survived the first attack to tell us what went down but we can base off of the evidence and off of the the
00:58:55
statements from the second attack it appears that what he was looking to do is to stop the immediately stop the
00:59:03
threat of the male fighting back right and then we see overkill on the female where the female
00:59:10
is shot more times than the male and so I think there is a need for him to have a female present
00:59:19
to kill a female sexual gratification well and I think that that's the purpose of him pulling
00:59:28
up stopping and looking at the people and then deciding if he's going to attack or not but maybe he needs the
00:59:35
male victim just as much as he needs the female Victim Because it's almost like he's like I think deep down in my soul
00:59:43
or whatever I'm not good enough for you but I'm going to be better than this individual at this moment by killing
00:59:51
them and then and then but you're going to pay because you didn't choose me I've
00:59:56
had some people I've heard some people say well he was probably making sure that the victims were young that he was
01:00:01
looking for a certain age group and I I think that is the silliest statement I've ever heard because one would not
01:00:08
think to find a bunch of old people parked in these lovers Lanes right right he's not he yes he is looking for young
01:00:14
victims that's why he's choosing to attack in this manner he expects to find younger people parked there together I
01:00:22
think it's the sometimes you just have a couple guys hanging out drinking or you
01:00:28
have just teenagers that have nowhere to go that park a car somewhere I think it's important to him that there be a
01:00:33
female victim and as you pointed out likely a male victim as well what we do know for sure Captain is that this
01:00:40
killer wants everyone to know he is responsible for both of these attacks he wants them to know that these attacks
01:00:48
are connected and he is in fact a Sear serial killer he's a killer that's brutal methodical and he's thinking out
01:00:56
these crimes he's also thinking out the communications that he chooses to pass on to police and we will also learn that
01:01:05
this guy will not stop and therefore we will have more crime scenes and victims to analyze
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