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[Music] [Music] uh the disappointing answer to that question is no they did not find it
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today but they are developing New Leads they do have a detective working on the case fulltime and they are hoping to get
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more information that could lead them to Brandy Hall and we essentially dug in the
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ground and hopes of finding bry's remains Sergeant Jeff Spears has been leading the Palm Bay police
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investigation to try and find missing Brandy Hall he says investigators recently used cadaver dogs and a psychic
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hired by Hall's family to search the backyard of Hall's former home on dunsil Lane in Malibar the canine got a
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positive result prompting police to dig up the property Tuesday based on the uh Cav dogs and what indication they gave
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us as well as a ground penetrating radar there was some reason to believe that there could been or could have been some
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Disturbed area underground and so we dug that area that we thought that there might be something there and
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unfortunately we did not locate any human remains I want to find out who did this to her and Justice will be done
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Paul's mother along with a private investigator an anthropologist and specially trained dogs have canvased
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different areas that might yield Clues the Malibar volunteer firefighter vanished the night of August 17th 2006
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the night night before her then husband was about to be sentenced on charges of growing and selling marijuana a search
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turned up her firefighting gear floating in a pal Bay Pond and later her truck with blood inside needs to be found I
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want her to be found alive but she needs to be found palom Bay Police say they're
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not giving up so we're essentially going through it again and just making sure that uh we're on the same page and we've
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done what we can to make sure that we are keeping this case going in hopes of locating
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Brandy [Music] so you hear it there this case is incredibly active that clip is actually
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from 2019 which would be 13 years after Brandy Hall mother of two went missing and that will clue you in that there are
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several more items that we need to get to in our timeline but I think one thing that that clip indicates here Captain is
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what is a widespread belief when we were left off and we were going through theories and suspects
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yesterday the first theory that was proposed in this missing person's case is that Brandy died by Suicide there are
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some things that support this Theory one would be the financial pressures that she would be facing at the time right
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and maybe we don't have anybody to say that she was press but we do have many people saying look one thing that was
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very upsetting to her was losing her job as a firefighter yeah a job that she was extremely proud
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of and we do know that she was however making efforts to write that wrong to get back on track
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there by volunteering at another fire department the thing though here Captain is I would focus in on if
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we think that suicide is a high probability would be less on the idea that she was still so upset about
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losing her job because I mean that took place eight months prior MH it's kind of
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yesterday's news she's already set up some things to working to getting back to that career that she loved I would
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focus in on the financial constraints that she's facing her husband she look she's volunteering as a
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firefighter she's still doing she's still working and bringing in an income but it's half of what she was bringing
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in Prior when she was being paid to be a firefighter now she's volunteering well and she doesn't have
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that marijana money anymore well I I don't know that they ever had any marijuana money but right the the thing
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though is that Jeff regardless if they did or not he's going to prison so he's not going to be having an income for a
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period of time and they have two kids kids now the flip of that would be okay she's so worried about
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financials but we have several people saying she she would not have done that because
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she was concerned when when when there were charges facing her when she was facing charges in in that same drug
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operation she was concerned in telling others look if if Jeff goes to prison and I go to prison yeah who going to
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take care of the kids she was worried about the kids and so I think that the the worry about the kids who's going to
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take care of them to me that tells me a couple things if everybody's saying that
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that's her number one concern it it that seems like suicide would be less of a probability as well as her running away
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and taking off now when one of our suspects Randall Richmond is confronted with the idea that oh you said she's
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waiting on some money she's going to meet somebody and then she's going to take off mhm so that would suggest maybe
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she's going to leave on her own accord well just to stay on this suicide idea and maybe it's also goes along with the
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theory of will she run away okay so there's some evidence that maybe she's not the greatest partner she's not the
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greatest wife because she's having this affair for 10 years but I think there's enough
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evidence and enough people coming forward as a character witness to her to Brandy that she was a great mother and
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that she cared deeply about her kids I agree with that to about 90% you know I I see a situation she's calling home
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she's saying the prayers saying good night to the kids that she's working hard she's she's not she's not lazy you
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know she's she's working as a firefighter working these these other gigs as well right to provide I think
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what I see Captain is is a a a mother that deeply cares for her children however I think she's rather
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immature because to me look good father good mother you don't get involved in a drug operation no but again good father
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good mother you don't run around on your spouse like all of these things do in some yes I agree minute way do put your
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children in Jeopardy or the relationship with your children in Jeopardy but there
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is an argument that she had no invol or knowledge about the drug operation correct and them eventually dropping the
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charges would would back that up or her involvement was so little and minuscule that nobody cared right that that she
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wasn't nobody made any money who who knows but but to move on from that so let's jump back into our timeline here
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because there are a few things to finish up that timeline so after August 2006 when she goes missing at some point and
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this is reported a couple different ways but this is really interesting to me and
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I you know what if you got any hate mail you can send it if you like I'm not going to read you shove it up your butt
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so somebody contacts a psychic this is Gail St John and some sources say that it's police that contact the psychic
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however on the show that we talked about the other day the uh murder on the Space
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Coast hosted by John Torres again he did a phenomenal job on this case and several other cases he's a great
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journalist and a good follow so he interviews this psychic Gail St John Gail St John tells him that
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yes a person emailed her now this doesn't sound to me like police even though sources say police contact
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psychics maybe they contacted other psychics but Gail St John says a person emailed me and I'm not going to tell you
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who that is she says other people emailed me and contacted me about this case as well but the very first person
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that did it weirded her out here's what she tells John Torres talk slowly the person that emailed her
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she doesn't say man woman child whatever she doesn't give any indication of who it would have been but she tells Torres
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the person that emailed me it weirded me out because the feeling I was getting was that the person emailing me who
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claims that they want to find her why are you searching for answers when you already know the answer yeah that's what
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her psychic intuition whatever you want to call it if you want to call it total BS fine this statement is still very
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interesting to me so listen to what she says she says Gail St John says that one
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of the people seemingly pulling out all the stops in an effort to find Brandy is
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actually her killer she also says that when Brandy is finally found so that's an indication that she's saying she will
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eventually be found there will be evidence to identify her killer oh [ __ ] so when you find the remains you also
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find evidence that will point you to who put her there and I know a lot of people
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think this stuff is like a lot of hoopla a lot of nonsense I find it fascinating because
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one law enforcement does from time to time when they when they don't really know what direction to go in I have
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talked to detectives that said you know what we had a psychic reach out or we reached out to a a psychic or we did a
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tarrot reading or whatever and it's not so much that they believe everything that they're getting from these
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individuals but it's the fact that they might turned them onto a path that they weren't thinking well and a good
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detective regardless of who calls or why right if somebody calls them about a case you
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want to know who they are and why they are calling yeah and you want to vet that information because I could call
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Columbus Police Department this afternoon and say hey MH I'm a psychic and I got some visuals about some
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situation and here's what I know and if they hang up the phone and it turns out that I actually did something terrible
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right you're the actual killer they just lost a huge lead I just I just inserted
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myself into the investigation and they didn't follow up to see who I am exactly now again she says she's contacted by
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multiple people but here's where my mind goes look we're talking about a missing
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person's case almost 20 years old why do you think she's not saying who this individual is so from from what I've
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reviewed she told the she told John Torres who the person was but because this is not anything that can be
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verified he's being a true honest journalist and but it's possible that maybe she
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told law enforcement she may have she may have um and I so he is not revealing that person's name now maybe when this
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thing when we get answers to it he does maybe he'll go back and say look this was the name I knew all along or maybe
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he says she told me a completely different name and and she just had it wrong she she may have it wrong so let's
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go to June of 2007 the next year so now she's almost been missing for one year this is weird because fisherman find
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Brandy Hall's backpack containing clothing wallet and day planner this was in a Vero Beach Canal so they know that
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these items belong to Brandy what's really interesting how do they know that these items this backpack belonged to
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Brandy her name and contacts that she have are in this day planner right now what's really interesting this is almost
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this is what 10 months after she's been missing mhm police say that it is of their opinion that because the the
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writing in her day planner had not been completely smeared or or ruined by the water they believe that that backpack
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wasn't in there the entire time that she's been missing that it was tossed in there relatively recent to somebody
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finding it 10 months later somebody's moving evidence or discarding evidence yeah so it's and we've seen this before
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where we find a killer they go through their belongings and find other Souvenirs of
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individuals so it's possible that her killer if she was murdered which look I I'm just going to say it I think that's
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that's what we're looking at here because of the blood evidence because of the the car being
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discarded because of her belongings being found that I think maybe this individual her killer
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had more belongings of her and then at some point I got to get rid of these because if these are found in my
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possession well then all all fingers start pointing to me this is going to lead us to an increase in reward offered
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for information in the case it it climbs up to $10,000 in late June of 2007 then
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in July of 2007 two more items are found near Vero Beach Canal uh so this would be in the same location as the backpack
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from my understanding Captain these were I believe that they are reported to have
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been pornog graphic movies and erection something that's called erection cream which I I don't know oh I know all about
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that well what you do is you a little flicky flicky down there and and Magic happens
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somehow I believe that the I don't know I can't I don't know the source information here is a little tricky so I
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don't know if these items were found in the backpack with the day planner or if these two items that were later found uh
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are these two items and they were connected to that backpack it could be I believe they were found in the the
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backpack that's what I heard that's what I think I think you're right there I think they were found in the backpack
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and then these two other items maybe have not been it's not been disclosed mhm what these actual items were we do
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know that the following year in 2008 that her fire department helmet with her name on it was was found near Ma's
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Bridge in Indian Harbor Beach so that's July of 2008 in March of 2011 investigative discovery that the TV
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network they highlight this case so her case was on season three of the TV show disappeared MH it's episode number 12
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titled Lost Hero which aired March 21st 2011 that same year the Palm Bay police enlist the help of FBI profilers in the
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case they don't release a profile of the likely offender but they get them involved in of course learning about all
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the people in the case right Jeff Hall Randall Richmond and so on and so forth in
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2015 Brandy Hall at the request of her family is declared dead legally dead well just and can look I want to back up
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for a second because um maybe you agree with this maybe you won't I I wonder because we're
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finding belongings of her in different locations I also wonder is that to is that to leave breadcrumb
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trails away from where they're going to discover her body very likely I think I think you're on to something smart there
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Captain I think what what I see here is a very scared unsophisticated mhm criminal that's what
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I see I think that what we have here is somebody that when they get really nervous they decide oh I I got to go
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move I've HIIT this thing once I've concealed it and even though it's not been found all this
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time it's only a matter time before it's found I better go put it someplace better a better hiding spot and then in
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it and then the what ends up happening is people are finding these things and so what are we being told now with the
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exception of the helmet that who knows that helmet helmets are pretty sturdy that helmet may have been in that
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location for the almost two years that we she was missing right but whoever put the truck in that pond it's found within
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hours have we ever covered a case where a vehicle's found within hours of someone trying to conceal it no and in a
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water and and submerged completely submerged in water it's found within hours of the time that it's put there I
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mean at the very latest it's like 13 14 hours after it entered the water and I don't and and if you believe the blood
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evidence in the experts then it's a much shorter time than that yeah and it's tough because there there's some cases
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where you're like the universe seems to be getting in the way or helping and so in this case when we find the vehicle so
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quickly you'd think that we're going to get answers so quickly and all these years
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later we don't have we don't have Brandy to bring her back home to her family well and what you do have here too is
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when we talk about theories I think you can wipe one of them out completely right there and there's going to be
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people that always will say that look there's still a small percentage that maybe she left on her own but what you
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have is you have blood evidence in that vehicle and law enforcement saying look there's enough blood in there that we
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believe she was met with Foul Play there's some that say there's enough blood in there that we believe that she
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was killed in that vehicle or whatever injury she she took on it it it it led to her
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death shortly afterwards and then you have a Circuit Judge that is reviewing everything and the family who's
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petitioning the courts and the judge agreeing okay we can legally declare her dead so you have a lot of people
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involved that are saying nope there's too much here to say that she walked away so you I think I think it would be
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clean and and better for the purpose of of figuring out what happened to just go ahead and
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wipe that possibility away feel awful for her kids yeah 2019 October of 2019 that is the clip that you heard at
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the top of the show they did they're digging up a property and the property is the hall F where they lived when she
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went missing why are they doing that keep in mind we have Randall Richmond calling Jeff Hall saying hey I got to I
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got to take this skid steer off the trailer so it can be worked on well some people have said
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maybe he whether he killed her or had to cover it up for somebody else transported the body back to her
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own property and used her own skid steer to bury the body on that property and that's why police worked so hard for so
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many years to to look into that property now you could also the flip of that coin
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is that Jeff Hall killed her and buried her on that property no I understand that but also like again and they still
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might find her B we we don't know where they're going to find her body so it's still possible even though they work
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that property a lot but hey like we always say look at the husband look at the closest people around this
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individual and here's this guy that had an affair with her saying well I think she ran
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away again it makes no sense that he would be worried about this this this stupid material thing this piece of
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equipment that he be worried about that when this lady that he's had an affair with is missing that's his number one
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concern makes no sense but again hey if I get her body and bury her on the property then they're going to point
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the finger towards the husband yeah and he's going to be locked up so yeah that you can see why one would want to do
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that now keep in mind at the end of that clip you have law enfor enforcement saying that we are we can say with
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confidence that she's not here so they which I look I I believe I'm just saying because she's not
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found you know you can't roll out I don't know I it's it's hard for me to roll out that property when she
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hasn't been found well in September of 2021 um law enforcement is finally able to completely drain the pond where bry's
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truck was found and nothing is discovered nothing additional is found there so in my mind where I go is that
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she's not on the property that that her and her husband shared with their children yeah most likely and she's not
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in the pond where her truck was found so we can while we we're looking for where she
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is we can start to make a list of where she is not now we've talked a lot about Randall Richmond we we should also talk
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about his wife who yes she worked at the nearby Palm Bay Hospital her shift ended
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at 11:00 p.m. that night now this is weird because this is roughly about the same time that we have Brandy Hall
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leaving the Malibar fire station that night right so and we know that there's bad blood there we don't know how much
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wife knows about the husband running around but I think there's evidence you know when there's a confrontation that's
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public yeah oh dude she she and he later says it to police himself Randall Richmond later says it to police like I
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don't know that she knew 100% but she knew we were very close friends she was concerned that we were too close of
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friends and his words were I believe her intuition told her that there was an affair and I don't like this guy because
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he he has lied many times liar liar pants on fire well the here's the problem here's so
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let's cross reference our remaining suspects right Jeff and I'm keeping Jeff Hall on that list because how did we
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discover this case to to want to present it and bring it to all of you MH well we
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had several listeners suggest it and it was on our giant list of listener suggestions our our big spreadsheet that
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we've created but it's just one name of of hundreds at this point so I go to Orlando for crimecon last
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year I had four or five different people that came up to the True Crime garage booth and they brought up this Brandy
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Hall case and I said yeah I I I don't know much about it the name doesn't even ring a bell when I got home I confirmed
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that it was already on our spreadsheet right but what was so interesting to me and what sucked me in is I the first PE
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person that I met says hey you ever heard of this Brandy Hall case I said no he said well I'm here to tell you the
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husband killed her he's been involved in construction and it's my opinion that he
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took her somewhere and she's probably under concrete and they may never find her said okay well I'll take a look
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right it wasn't until the next day somebody goes hey have you ever heard of this Brandy Hall case and I said matter
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of fact somebody just brought it up yesterday the husband did it and I said the person uh told me that the husband
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Jeff Hall killed her and that we it's going to be difficult to find her because he's involved in construction
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and he probably put her under concrete somewhere or in concrete somewhere and it could be anywhere in the State of
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Florida and that person goes well I understand that he he looks like a good suspect but I'm here to tell you the
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boyfriend killed her and that she's probably in a in some water somewhere it's said all right okay well I'll make
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a mental note of that that same day somebody else brought up the Brandy Hall case and then drinks that night sitting
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around with other podcasters talking to other listeners and the Brandy Hall case
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came up again so I thought this has got to go to the short list I for myself have got to know who is or who do I
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think is responsible so let's cross reference Jeff Hall versus Randall Richmond and an Marie Richmond his
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wife an Marie they say that Jeff Hall's Alibi is a problem I'm yet to hear anybody tell me
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what anarie Richmond was up to after she left her shift at the hospital at 11:00
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p.m. August 17th 2006 yeah because of her Alibi is why I went home and my husband saw me well we can't believe
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anything he said well her husband shouldn't have saw her because he was working the overnight fire shift right
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correct yeah at Palm Bay Fire Station so Jeff Hall I'm told Jeff Hall's Alibi is a problem because his
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Alibi is while I was at home sleeping with my kids mhm and everybody says well he could have snuck out that night kids
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maybe didn't wake up they're little he goes out kills the wife gets rid of the body and wakes up uh next morning makes
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some phone calls looking for his wife and then goes off to a sentence sentencing
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hearing okay that's not out of the realm of possibility there's also people that
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say there's a missing there's missing time in the timeline for Brandy Hall that night she could have stopped she
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could have went home something goes down he kills her there and then he's got to
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get rid of the body get rid of the truck seems like a lot of stuff for him to do
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in the middle of the night but we do know that somebody did a lot of stuff in the middle of the night so why not Jeff
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Hall now the problem again anarie Richmond what's her Alibi nobody's told me there's no information anywhere that
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I've found maybe her Alibi I was at home sleeping and maybe police aren't so concerned with her for a multitude of
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reasons I don't know we do know that she got close to having some kind of physical altercation with
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our victim at some point at the seafood festival in Grant Randall Richmond they say he's got
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the best Alibi of all because he was working that night and there's five 1 two 3 four five firefighters that were
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at the fire station with him that night who all say he was there with us that night the
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entirety of the night so but is he responsible for setting her up I mean 80 80 points of communication
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between him and the victim Brandy Hall on the day she goes missing well let's keep in mind though too what will those
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firefighters be doing that night sleeping like the rest of us yeah but if Jeff Hall's telling the truth they're
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sleeping just like Jeff Hall if Jeff Hall could have snuck out of his house with some sleeping children and we are
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to believe that's a possibility I would argue that it's a possibility that Randall Richmond could
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have slipped out of the firehouse with sleeping firefighters there and they don't know any better well my only issue
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with that is we do have Brandy Hall on camera footage leaving her fire station so I'm assuming and maybe I shouldn't
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assume but that that fire station would have video footage as well so if he was leaving that we would have him on video
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footage leaving the fire station there's been no talk or mention of camera footage or not from that from that
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Firehouse so here here's what's in interesting to me the argument for in favor of Randall Richmond not
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being a good suspect is that the the vehicle you know it's not a fire Tru it's just it's just that supervisor
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vehicle was a diesel vehicle and that firefighters don't sleep very well right they're light Sleepers for good reason
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they got to that alarm goes off and they got to respond so the argument is that that
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supervisor vehicle was parked inside the firehouse and that if he were to start it up inside that Firehouse if he were
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to open up that big garage door that that would have woke up any number of those firefighters they would have seen
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him leave they would remember him leaving that night but then we find out many months
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later there was a second a second fire supervisor vehicle that was parked outside of the firehouse
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that night and later one of those firefighters would tell police well he did step outside
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briefly around 11:00 or so to he said he was stepping out to take a phone call what's missing from that story is did
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you see him step back in after the phone call because he could have stepped out to hey I got to step outside and take a
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phone call hop in that other vehicle what here here's the problem though for saying that he stayed at the firehouse
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all that night with all those other firefighters who the [ __ ] drove that truck over to where it was found next to
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Brandy Halls by the police officer that it's a marked vehicle that says it's from the Palm Bay Fire
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Department who drove it there somebody drove it there that happened so if if Randall Richmond
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didn't drive it which one of you other firefighters drove it over there that night it was seen parked
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near a vehicle that is described to be Brandy Hall's truck that is later found in a pond that's right in that same
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location this Home Depot is not far from the Palm Bay Fire station it was rumored that the two of
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them would frequent that pond where her truck was found for [Music] [Music] revus
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want to thank everybody for sharing the images of the suspects well I I don't even want to
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call them suspects The Killers of their share Ramen case on social media cheers to everybody cheers to you
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Colonel yes and cheers and let's hope and pray that that case is solved very soon and let's hope and pray that Brandy
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all that we we find her very soon yeah you know look I do my best work late at night and sometimes these things come to
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me or I stumble upon them in the 11th Hour MH and that's what happened to me before coming to the garage
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today there's a million problems that I have with Randall Richmond's statements and
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his his statements that he's given to police MH there's a very big difference between him and Jeff Hall right I get it
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to me the top two suspects in this case in in a situation like this would be the
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husband and the boyfriend yes and I would I'm with you Captain I would tend to lean toward the husband most of the
00:33:43
time but in this situation one clear difference between the two is when police ask Jeff Hall
00:33:51
where's your wife his answer is I don't know when they ask Randall Richmond where is is Brandy Hall he says oh I
00:34:00
haven't talked to her in weeks yeah two days later different story liar oh I talked to her the night that
00:34:08
she went missing but she told me that she's going to take off that she's going away that she's waiting on some money
00:34:14
she's going to meet somebody get some money and take off well why did your story change well I I was covering for
00:34:21
her I I didn't want her to get in trouble I covered for her for two days but now he says I'm telling you because
00:34:29
I I'm concerned I didn't think she was going to be gone very long and she's not come back and now I'm concerned so I
00:34:36
want to I'm going to tell you guys the truth now wait wait wait wait you weren't concerned when they pulled her
00:34:41
bloody truck out of the pond the day before MH and you you came up with with with a story to tell police that they
00:34:51
very quickly re you haven't talked to her in weeks uh you talked to her 50 times a day leading up to her
00:34:58
disappearance you talked to her minutes before the last time that we can account
00:35:02
for her whereabouts yeah and on top of that when you look again two suspects you have one the the husband wasn't
00:35:11
Cooperative at first but he had a legal reason not to be and then when that passed he was you could almost say as
00:35:21
Cooperative as one could be and what do we know about law enfor ment in this case they gave him a polygraph test he
00:35:32
passed the test now you can say what you want about those but I'm sure that they
00:35:38
offered that to the boyfriend as well and I don't have any record of him taking a polygraph test they requested
00:35:46
that he that Randall Richmond take one and he refused to take the polygraph test mhm
00:35:53
and the thing is again it's the it's it's these changing stories right I haven't talked to her in weeks well then
00:36:00
two days later it's oh I'm so concerned and she told me she was going away taking off on her own now he's planting
00:36:06
a whole another possibility that he why he didn't do what they suspect that he did oh she took off and now she's been
00:36:14
gone so long two days I'm concerned and now I want to tell you the truth again you weren't concerned when they pulled
00:36:20
her truck that had her blood in it out of the pond that I think you might want to go and say hey right
00:36:28
because he's questioned the the night that they pulled the truck from the pond right so why is it I didn't talk to her
00:36:37
for weeks that same night it's because he doesn't want to be linked to her he wants to distance himself from the
00:36:43
victim as much as he possibly can and the the other thing here Captain is the items that were found that's I keep
00:36:54
going back to that too I think that what we have here here is a situation where somebody's panicking time and time again
00:37:01
and they're going you know what I I may have concealed this item for a few months it will be found eventually I
00:37:06
better move it and what do we see with the truck put it in water what did we see with the backpack found in water
00:37:14
what do we see with the other items found in or near water the helmet found in water firefighters respond to an
00:37:24
alarming a disturbing number of vehicle accidents sometimes resulting in a fatality a lot of times these some of
00:37:37
these will include ponds waterways Bridges things of that nature so what will a firefighter know
00:37:47
by their work experience that water creates problems recovering items recovering bodies
00:37:57
recovering vehicles and it also creates problems of destroying items over time this unsophisticated criminal suspected
00:38:06
that these items would remain in the water for a very long period of time however they did such a poor job hiding
00:38:13
them that they were found relatively quickly well to play Devil's Advocate though the the husband was a firefighter
00:38:19
so he would know this as well he was a public safety officer he would know even better my biggest issue is the
00:38:27
eyewitness the vehicle that they claim that they saw and it's a police officer eyewitness it's not some yes schow Mo
00:38:35
off the streets mhm it's a person that doesn't have a dog in the fight a person that's
00:38:42
that's not only that reporting something before This Woman's even missing and the report states that a
00:38:50
vehicle matching her description a person matching her description is in the truck with another person
00:38:57
who's unidentified and the Palm Bay supervisor some Reports say Chief some say captain guess what
00:39:08
rank Randall Richmond held Captain he's the captain at the Palm Bay Fire Department that truck is found right
00:39:15
next to the other truck to Brandy Hall's truck yes and and look with a with a ranking like Captain guilty he's
00:39:28
guilty 100% Captain did it well Randall Richmond and anarie Richmond would end up splitting up they would get a divorce
00:39:39
in surpr I'm sorry they would get a divorce in 201 13 yeah surprise surprise you know he he's done some other things
00:39:49
over the course of time that I think make him a good suspect we one of the uh law enforcement officers one of the
00:39:56
profilers that was brought in when uh reviewing the interviews with with Randall says that he what what he he is
00:40:06
viewing what he says he's seeing is not a per the Randall was crying during some
00:40:12
portions of the interview yeah and he's saying what I'm seeing here is not a person that's crying because they're sad
00:40:18
that they lost somebody that they care deeply about I'm seeing someone that's crying because they're scared they're
00:40:25
scared that they're going to get caught they're scared that they're going to get
00:40:28
found out yeah and if if you know he had that shift that overnight shift the the
00:40:35
night before if he was able to duck out and go see her I I'm saying here I don't
00:40:40
know that he went and met up with Brandy Hall with the intent to kill her maybe he gets there and things got weird and
00:40:48
and she dies by accident or is killed what have you that part I can't sort out but what I feel like happened is that he
00:41:00
was somehow able to duck out that night and then being off for the next two days
00:41:04
he's got two days to figure out getting rid of these items getting rid of all of
00:41:10
this stuff he he he gets rid of the truck and well and here's the thing too and maybe this is a nothing
00:41:19
Burger but when you look at the two suspects if you're law enforcement you're going okay well the husband has
00:41:26
these drug charges the boyfriend his stories aren't matching up but but what do we
00:41:33
know what we do know is the next day one goes about their business one goes about the schedule that they
00:41:43
already had laid out for them and one Alters his schedule I can't show up to court I had a change of I had a change
00:41:53
of heart I just can't do this and all by the way can I can I get to your property
00:41:58
I got to go to your property all of a sudden and why do why do you got to go to the property why is that so and he's
00:42:04
not dumb enough to be able to figure out there the likelihood that nobody else will be there yeah if if he's
00:42:11
responsible he already knows that bry's not going to be there and because of the
00:42:15
sentencing hearing he knows that Jeff's not going to be there yeah gives him time and here's the other thing too is
00:42:21
all these other pieces and I guess you could call evidence these you know these other
00:42:29
items of brandies that were found you have to discard them if you're not her husband you have to discard them
00:42:40
in the woods or in water or wherever so they're not on your person not on your property if it was the husband well the
00:42:49
husband could just take it back to his house and it would make sense why her helmet would be at her house it would
00:42:58
make sense why her planner would be at the house you would have no reason to have to discard it the other thing that
00:43:06
really rubs me the wrong way is that uh erection lotion no the well look that's not Brandy Hall's um or not for her use
00:43:18
I can tell you that see I even though I don't know what it is um I it's it would
00:43:23
require from my understanding of the human anatomy it would require another person to be involved no I understand
00:43:30
that but I also and I know this might sound a little strange but I I also wondered is there another use for this
00:43:40
product is it I again I don't know enough about it but the the thing that here's the other thing in his interviews
00:43:48
when he is the interviews that I've re been able to review and and again it's probably a small sample size here but
00:43:56
once once we get past the interview where he just says I haven't talked to her in weeks now once he's admitting
00:44:02
that he's talked to her he uses the phrase in every other sentence you know and you know and you
00:44:11
know and when he's describing everything that happened the conversations that he
00:44:14
had with Jeff the conversations he had with uh Brandy Hall their interaction together their
00:44:22
relationship together where could she be everything every other sentence starts with and you know and you know and you
00:44:28
know you know what that does you know you know people that here I'm using it now you know people that use that
00:44:35
they're what they're subconsciously doing they're trying desperately to get the person on the other side of the
00:44:41
table or sitting next to them to agree with them they're planting the seed of this is what happen you
00:44:49
know they're planting the seed of this is what happened and you will agree with me and he says it I think out of out of
00:44:57
sheer nervousness over and over and over again I think one that's a very telling
00:45:03
thing and two another big difference between Jeff Hall and a bunch of other people that we
00:45:09
could talk about today and comparison to Randall Richmond is what Captain other people keep calling Brandy
00:45:21
Hall trying to get a hold of her trying to get in touch with her trying to figure out where she is if she's okay MH
00:45:27
Randall Richmond stops calling 50 times a day man I call you 50 times a day communic a
00:45:36
day between the two of us whether she's calling me I'm calling her text messages
00:45:41
between the two of us 50 times a day and then roughly about the same 15 minutes that she goes
00:45:48
missing no more calls for me to her phone no more texts for me to her phone for how long how about forever
00:45:56
how about forever yeah and the people that were calling to try to figure out where she she was and what happened to
00:46:03
her and and maybe she'll answer the phone for me they weren't contacting her 50 times a day before she went missing
00:46:11
no and and then like you said it's not just 50 times a day the day she goes missing 80 points of
00:46:19
communication it is a shame that she has not been found and it's a shame that there's not charges brought against this
00:46:27
individual and here's I'm going to go way out on a limb here too I think the psychic was right I think the psychic
00:46:35
was right and I think what Gail St John said that when she is found and I love that
00:46:45
she said when she is found that gives me so much hope and optimism in this case when she is found there will be evidence
00:46:55
to point to to her killer and I think that she's right because I think I know where Brandy Hall is and I
00:47:07
don't I'm I hope police are aware of this information I would wager a Franklin that your boy Randall probably
00:47:17
is but I have some very I have some hard questions about a piece of property we already covered the
00:47:26
fact that Randall Richmond and anarie Richmond they separate in 2013 they're separated legally
00:47:37
separated I am not married to you you are not married to me and a lot of our properties
00:47:46
belongings all of those things should be separate as well right Captain we've divorced yeah that's how
00:47:53
it works so if if we split up in 2013 legally by the state of Florida then why do I Randall Richmond and I and
00:48:07
Marie Richmond both have ties to that property in 2018 why do we both have ties to that
00:48:18
property oh somebody passed away Randall's brother Patrick passes away I'm guessing that maybe he
00:48:30
bequeathed this property to his brother or his brother and his brother's ex-wife
00:48:36
why would it go to his ex-wife why would both of them have interest in the same property are they do they both have a
00:48:43
big problem to hide to bury to secrete forever and ever so Randall's ties to this property
00:48:55
go back back way back when so he has ties to this property since 1989 when he gets involved with a
00:49:02
company called Dixie equipment Services Incorporated and then we have Patrick Richmond which would be his brother LC
00:49:13
is a company that is operating out of that same property which is a residential property and a rather large
00:49:19
one in 2004 then we have a company called Dixie fishing LLC that's operating out of that same property in
00:49:27
2014 we have Raymond Rich we have Randall Richmond who has ties to that property at all of those times 1989 1996
00:49:36
2004 2014 and then 2018 5 years after the separation from his wife and his wife continues to have
00:49:45
ties to that property in 2018 and Beyond there was also some kind of building that took place on this
00:49:53
property in two in 2020 and they both still had ties to that property in 2020 we have Randall Richmond who still
00:50:02
has ties to that property to this day and in 2017 there's a property in Jones Creek uh uh it's called Jones Creek
00:50:09
Acres Drive in Franklin North Carolina now this is much further away this is 9 and 1 half hours away from Palm Bay
00:50:16
Florida but why do both separated husband and wies have ties to that property in 2017 there's something
00:50:23
that's not adding up here there's something that's not added up here the the why would these two who are
00:50:31
divorced have a vested interest in these two properties now at some point an Marie will separate
00:50:40
herself from the North Carolina property but that Grant Florida property that's only 18 minutes away from Palm
00:50:51
Bay and even a shorter distance from the Home Depot where I believe that Randall and Brandy Hall were
00:51:01
sitting in a truck together at midnight on August 17th 2006 it's even a shorter distance to
00:51:11
that property so I want to know and I hope that police are on to that as well and keeping an eye on what what is up
00:51:18
with that property and why do we still have ties to it from two people that are separated again it's a shame that she
00:51:25
hasn't been found it's a shame that we have no arrest or charges brought in this case I believe one day
00:51:34
we will and I feel bad for her friends and family and especially her children yeah she was just 32 years of
00:51:44
age and as we said earlier two children at the time that she went missing and she was last seen leaving the last
00:51:53
confirmed whereabouts of her her would be close to 11:00 on August 17th 2006 she was wearing a white shirt with a
00:52:04
logo on the back and also a logo on the front a small uh left breast logo dark long pants and midaf work
00:52:15
boots she does have some tattoos but at this point Captain it you know we're not
00:52:20
going to find tattoos we very likely would not be finding tattoos anybody with information anything at all on any
00:52:27
of the people that we've discussed here in these episodes but especially about Brandy Hall please contact and give that
00:52:35
information to the Palm Bay Police Department their phone number is 321 952 3456 or you can remain anonymous by
00:52:47
calling the crime line at 8423 tips that's 8423 T [Music] PS fascinating case want to thank everybody for joining
00:53:20
us here in the garage thanks for being our friends thanks for having a pint with us colonel do we have any
00:53:26
recommended reading yes sir this week we are recommending after Eton the missing
00:53:32
child case that held America captive by Lisa Cohen this is a case that many people
00:53:39
have followed for a very long time it's one of the most infamous missing children cases in American history this
00:53:47
was before kids on the milk cartons before Amber Alerts this is about the Lost Child eating Pates and there's a lot of
00:53:56
speculation and a lot that goes into this fascinating book by Lisa Cohen she Chronicles this case like none other and
00:54:06
just like the case that we featured here this week there's a lot of mystery that
00:54:10
surrounds this case I recommend that you check out this book and I think you will
00:54:15
devour it quite quickly it's a real page Turner you can find that recommendation
00:54:21
and many many more on our recommended page True Crime garage and until next week be good be kind and
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don't [Music] [Applause] litter