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a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] thank you [Music] as schools all over Ohio and across this
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great nation prepare to close down for the summer and Kids gear up for the much needed summer break it is this time of
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year every year that many remember and think about little acineth Luis ducat friends and family called her ceni
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she was a third grader at Barrington Elementary in the Columbus Ohio suburb of Upper Arlington
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the city of Upper Arlington and the people who live there are some of the best that Columbus has to offer
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this is an affluent area families stay here for generations to live in this tight-knit community to
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raise their children up in a safe peaceful area and thrive in nearby Columbus many Ohio State graduates stay or plant
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their Roots here in the city of Upper Arlington cine school and home were located in
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what was thought to be a very safe sleepy upper-class neighborhood but unfortunately there was something
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bad bubbling up there was something evil lurking In This Very neighborhood several girls reported to their parents
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that they didn't always feel safe walking in the neighborhood more than one girl said that she felt
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like she had been followed and not just on one occasion it was difficult to understand what was
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happening the neighborhood as everyone thought was still the same old sleepy upper-class
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neighborhood and maybe these were just the imagined fears of children however that something bad that was bubbling up
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to the surface boiled over on June 3rd 1980 just days before the end of the school year
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this is when littlecini was intercepted by that evil element somewhere along the
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very short walk from Barrington Elementary School and her home which was just blocks away
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[Music] the distance was less than a mile a 20-minute walk this is a walk that ceney made many
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times and one that was even shorter for her as kids know all of the shortcuts and cut
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throughs but on that bright and sunny day something got her in the short window of just four hours
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sini was first missing and then she was gone forever [Music] according to the Ohio attorney general
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Dave Yost website on June 3rd 1980 at 4 34 pm Messina ducat was reported missing by her parents
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after she did not arrive home from school the victim's parents indicated the ceni
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walked home from school and would usually arrive home at 4 pm after an extensive search sini's body
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was discovered in a drainage ditch at the corner of Riverside Drive and Waltham Road
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Which is less than one block from her residence at about 7 30 PM the same evening
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the investigation revealed that her death was caused by blunt force trauma to the head and manual strangulation
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investigators believe that the victim was abducted and murdered at a location other than where she was found
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the town was devastated the neighborhood was terrified Upper Arlington lost one of their own
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a young outgoing intelligent little girl was attacked in an area where she likely felt the safest
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this was her neighborhood where she lived with their four older siblings and her mom and her dad
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she was literally just a two-minute walk from her home when she was cornered and
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grabbed snatched off of the street killed just a short time later who would do such a Despicable and
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monstrous Act how could this happen here and how could an entire community in mourning carry on without this bright
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little girl Upper Arlington did carry on but so many have not forgotten sini and
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what happened to her it's been over 40 years and the still strong still proud Community Rossini
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lived still remember the talkative energetic little girl who did not make it home that one day
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that one day when a neighborhood was forever changed and permanently scarred that one day
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evil came to town or did it you see there is a lot of evidence in sini's case to suggest evil did not come
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to town that evil was already there always there lurking in the streets of this sleepy upper class neighborhood
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there's good reason to believe that sini may have even known her killer or one of
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the persons responsible the killer or killers may have known that there was only one
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way to keep this girl quiet after she was taken and assaulted but the community has refused to keep
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quiet about what happened what was taken from them what was stolen away from the city in the ducat family
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the members of this community are UA and they are UA strong as strong as a bear with a heart of gold
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the kids in this neighborhood never forgot sini some to this very day wish that they
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would have been walking with the little girl on June 3rd and if so maybe this would not have
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happened but unfortunately from where I stand and the way things look to me a tragedy like this was simply going to
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happen that bad element was on the rise and that evil was going to Bubble Up and boil over at some point
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and it did that day when ceney was at the corner of Waltham and Malvern so it's important to remember the cenee
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in her final minutes while she was scared and surrounded she was actually in some not so easily
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explained way protecting another little girl probably even one of her friends because this evil did not come to town
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it was always there right there in that sleepy upper class neighborhood before the end of the school year sini's
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classmates in memory of wrote The Following acronym for and about cini but in her proper name the zenith
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this is from Mrs subbert's third grade class at Barrington Elementary School [Music]
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a scene at ducat friendly third grader she always had a sunny smile her eyes glimmered
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sparkled like stars nice considerate honest polite and aware of other people's feelings
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the class as happy thoughts of her she will always be remembered [Music] in August of 1980
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Athena's father Alexander was interviewed by the UA news I believe this quote clearly showcases
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the strength the resolve and the compassion of the ducat family quote we have suffered a great loss
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but it's not a reoccurring one she's gone but the community may have to go through
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this again this case doesn't have to be solved for our benefit the Lord will deal with this fellow in
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his own way we don't wish to kill her any vengeance sometimes we pray for his soul that he
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may be saved but we are concerned about the safety of others he may try to wreak this tragedy on
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someone else I can't picture a person who is capable of rape and murder living a normal life
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I am sure we will hear from him in one way or another Alexander ducat August 6 1980.
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the ducats were and remained UA and UA strong this is true crime garage and this is the still unsolved murder
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case of a Zenith cenee ducat [Music] this is a case that we have wanted to cover for a while now a couple years in
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fact and it's only been covered a little bit and here we are today Captain covering it for the very first time and
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there have been some speed bumps along the way that got in the way of us covering this at an earlier date and we
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will discuss those at a later time in these episodes but we are here today to talk about the unsolved murder of
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aceneth ducat acina ducat was born July 24th 1971. and on our day in question she was
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eight years old she went by the nickname Seany and later that day when her parents would report
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her missing she was listed as four foot five and a half inches tall weighing about 68 pounds she had brown hair and
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brown eyes and she was in the third grade at Barrington Elementary School which was located on Barrington Road in
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Upper Arlington which is a suburb of Columbus Ohio our day in question is June 3rd 1980. this is a Tuesday and
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this would be a bright and sunny Tuesday on this day aceneth left school at 3 10
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p.m this is 10 minutes later than her usual dismissal time cini and her classmates had to serve a 10-minute
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detention for Rowdy Behavior disrupting the class this delay caused her to miss the crowd that she would have regularly
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walked home with so typically she's walking home less than a mile this walk would take her less than than 20 minutes
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so make it from the door of her school to the front door of the ducat Family Home and on this day she's going to be
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walking alone because those other friends from other classrooms have left and already made the Trek from the
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school to their homes there were several eyewitnesses that saw her walking home that day it's believed that she
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disappeared sometime between 3 20 and 4 00 p.m on that day now what we do have here Captain is that we have a situation
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where Mom gets worried because cini usually arrives home every day at the same time and when her daughter her
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youngest child is not there see me she starts to get a little nervous and this is going to be followed by
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sending out the other kids of the ducat family to go out on their bicycles and walk the streets and ride their bikes to
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look for their little sister it's also going to be followed with Mrs ducock calling the school to ask where her
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daughter was and calling a couple of her friends parents I imagine this would be
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friends that she would typically walk home with and she's going to find out about this 10-minute detention and
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realize very quickly the sceny was probably traveling by herself walking home alone that day from school again
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this 10-minute detention didn't come about until the day of on June 3rd 1980. she's also going to call her husband
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Alex or Alexander and let him know that their daughter did not come home from school yet Alex Works within walking
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distance of the family's home he will actually end up leaving work a few minutes early on this day to help go
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look for little cine so I'm not that clear on the details but it was either the whole class that got a detention or
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a group of kids because they were talking too much in class but kind of odd that they would be handed out a
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10-minute detention for that day normally you'd have to serve your detention on another day yeah I'm
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guessing a couple things here Captain one it makes sense to me it's the end of the school year kids get a little Rowdy
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they probably weren't listening to the teacher teacher gets upset and has to continually warn the kids and then
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decides you know what I've got to make a example here and let them know that they
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can't just do whatever they want so here's a 10 minute detention probably served by the whole class we got to keep
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it short though I'm guessing because some of those kids are going to be riding buses home some of these kids as
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we said like cini will be walking home I've heard it reported that like 1980 was something different than the setup
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that we have today that many more kids walked home back then if you looked up where the ducats lived and this
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Barrington Elementary School it's less than a point ninth of a mile I believe it's typical for kids that live in the
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same neighborhood as the school to commonly walk to school so I don't believe that it's any different 1980
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than it would be today of the amount of kids that were walking to and from school
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when I was growing up Captain when you were growing up if our school was in the same neighborhood you just walked
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because the buses didn't travel that short distance or mom and dad would drop you off at the school well Colonel can
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you give us a general overview of this case and then we can come back through and do a very detailed account of the
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events yes so as we said ceney was walking home from school it's believed that she was last seen within just
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blocks of her home that day her body was eventually found at approximately 7 30 PM so let's note those times here before
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we get to that very detailed timeline of June 3rd we have people that say that they have seen sini around 3 20 p.m
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maybe even a few minutes after that so we believe that she obviously went missing during some point after that 320
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325 marker on that day her body is found at approximately 7 30 p.m that day so what we're really working with here
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roughly is a window of about four hours where we have a lot of question marks and a lot of blanks to fill in and I
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think we will be able to do that with some of this timeline that we will later present but her body was found this is
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after an extensive search remember we've already said brothers and sisters are out looking for cini we have
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neighborhood kids looking for her mom and dad are out looking for her mom's driving around the neighborhood looking
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for her this is followed by an official search that is going to start after the missing persons report is filed with the
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Upper Arlington Police Department at 4 34 pm on that same day so we got a lot of people in a small area looking for
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this little girl and yet we have four hours where we have to fill in and figure out
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what was going on during that time frame her body was found at the mouth of a culvert located at the corner of
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Riverside Drive and Waltham Road so to give a very basic description of this area what we have here Captain is
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Riverside Drive is a very busy road it was back in 1980 it still is to this day in fact if you look up the population
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for Upper Arlington the population is roughly the same today as what it was back in 1980. it's only about 1500
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people more so traffic and things like that are not significantly different however the lay of the land is
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significantly different especially right here on this corner this area has been landscaped and renovated
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several times since 1980. now think of your neighborhood growing up everybody out there in listener land and you know
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the busy road that is just outside of your neighborhood that Mom and Dad say hey wherever you go you can go ride your
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bikes you can go play with your friends but you do not go near that road you do not go across that road well this would
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be that Road Riverside Drive very busy Road Waltham Road is right off of Riverside and it's one of the main
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vessels through this neighborhood through sini's neighborhood her body is eventually found near this intersection
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of Waltham and Riverside Drive the interesting thing about that to me Captain is this is very close to her
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home it's less than two minute walk from her front door to where her body was ultimately found yeah my parents would
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always say don't play by that busy intersection but stop hanging out with that kid that thinks he's a colonel too
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young to be a colonel so unfortunately her body is found four hours later and this is about a block from her home and
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I encourage everyone to look this up on a map because it will shock you how close she was found to her home
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and it was determined that she was sexually assaulted and her death was caused by blunt force trauma to the head
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and manual strangulation the murder weapon I've actually seen several different weights for this murder weapon over the
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years I've see she was killed with a rock someone took a rock and hit her in the
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head with it and I've seen this rock to have weigh as little as 12 pounds or as many as 25 pounds
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most of the information that I've reviewed over the years suggests that this is a 20 to 25 pound Rock so this is
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a pretty big rock now the area that she's found there's a lot of rocks there and this rock was recovered it was still
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at the murder scene and that's something that's key to remember here too murder scene she was killed where she was found
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so what you're saying is law enforcement believes a perpetrator or multiple perpetrators took her assaulted her
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somewhere transport her alive to this location and then the murder took place at that location where she was found yes
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that is correct and here's the thing though I think that we're going to be able to lay this out in a very easy to
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understand way easy to grasp everything that we have seen over the years in her case I don't think that things were so
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clear for law enforcement at the time when they were investigating this case we have the the benefit of 42 years of
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looking at this case and looking at the different information that have come up in 42 years they did not one thing that
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police revealed was that there had been a previous and a very similar attack in that similar area on May 7th so less
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than a month earlier a similar type of victim and a very similar type abduction took place in that same neighborhood now
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this would be news to some of the people in the neighborhood but not to everyone
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in that neighborhood were there any eyewitnesses to this previous situation before the murder yes there were so we
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have the Survivor of the attack and then we also have a potential eyewitness in that situation the thing here Captain is
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eyewitnesses are key in this case eyewitnesses for the day that sini was killed and eyewitnesses on this other
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attack fact that may or may not be related however what we do know is at the time of sini's murder that police
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absolutely did think that it was highly likely that the two were in fact connected so much so that they are
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releasing a sketch a composite sketch to the public of the individual that they believe may have been spotted in sini's
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attack or at least in the area of where ceni was last seen and this is believed to be a similar
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sketch a similar composite sketch to the earlier attack that took place in May again just less than one month earlier
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[Music] foreign [Music] cheers mates cheers to you Captain make sure you slap that bass big time Big
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Time detective Ed Tyne was one of the lead investigators in acina's murder case he put together some really
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invaluable information on this case that I think still holds a lot of weight to this day and this is how we can get a
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clearer picture of those four hours that went by from the time that she was last
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seen to the time that her body was discovered at the mouth of that Culvert this is a timeline put together by
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detective Ed Tyne and it starts roughly at 3 P.M and it's going to take us all the way up until about 7 30 p.m that
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night now a lot of these names have been redacted and then on top of that these times are not exact most of them are
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going to be approximate so I think it was key to give an overview of the general information of the case and what
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is known of that day first before we start getting into the specifics because this could get a little
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confusing without having that information prior at the start of detective tynes timeline we have 3 10 pm
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and it's stated here that the victim is seen the ducat and the rest of her third
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grade class was dismissed after they had been held over for 10 minutes for a class detention
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normal dismissal time was 3 P.M as we've already discussed at 3 10 pm we have a lady that is driving home she returns to
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her home on Waltham Road Waltham Road is not only part of the intersection where
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her body was found near but this will be part of her route home back to her house
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now this lady says that at about 3 10 pm she pulls into her driveway on Waltham Road and she observed an unknown male
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white wearing blue jeans a white shirt and possible blue jean jacket walking out of the field
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and this is a field that is located directly across from the intersection of Waltham and Hillside this location is
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eight city blocks west of the Barrington Elementary School so very near sceny school at approximately 3 15 to 3 20 p.m
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a classmate of sinis sees her walking observes her walking westbound on Waltham Road Crossing Arlington Avenue
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now at 3 15 p.m this is just five minutes after the lady that lived on Waltham returned home she goes outside
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to do some lawn work and notices that the man that she saw earlier is no longer there she does not see him at
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this time we also have a second classmate of cini's see her walking West on Waltham at Coventry and Barrington
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around this same time it's important to remember that any individual that's seen
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at this time in this area could be a suspect we have a driver that reports that approximately 320 p.m I think this
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time is probably a little early in the timeline but again we're going off of this eyewitness off of their report this
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is at approximately 3 20 p.m while driving westbound on Waltham Road and at Malvern Road he observed a male white
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with dark glasses carrying a limp girl into the yard of and then the name is redacted off of Malvern Road he also saw
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a red bicycle lying along the curb and the south side of Waltham and Malvern Road so
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this is interesting because later of course we know that sini is abducted and killed in this area this motorist at
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this time does not believe what he is witnessing to be anything of importance until of course later that day at 7 30
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when we find out the worst thing that a neighborhood could experience experience
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he's saying simply that he saw the bike he saw a girl being Carried Away by a guy he made the assumption that she had
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wrecked her bike was injured and this was either her brother or father tending to her and carrying her away so
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what he believes that he sees is something very innocent something very normal however he's going to find out
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hours later that something not innocent and not normal at all happened in this general area maybe at this same time and
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we're going to have a lot more eyewitnesses to this male on a bicycle yeah at approximately 3 20 p.m we have
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another witness who says that they observed a male white with dark hair approximately 18 to 21 years of age
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riding westbound at goldford and Fairfax on a bicycle he was wearing a white shirt and dark
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trousers this seems to match up with the previous descriptions we have by other eyewitnesses again we see the bicycle
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and we see a similar outfit along with a similar age description for this unknown
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mail at 3 25 we have a similar report of another individual that lives on Tremont Road that says
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that they observed a male in his twenties six foot tall ish average build with brown hair white short sleeve shirt
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dark pants running South and carrying a small child the witness goes on to say that she also
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saw a red bicycle on the south side of Waltham in the bushes by the pine trees now could you imagine if you saw a
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teenager or somebody in their early 20s carrying a child this is not going to look natural this is not going to look
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like they're playing around at the same time though you got to keep in mind around this three o'clock hour we have
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two schools in this neighborhood so you're going to see a lot of kids kind of out walking around or on bikes at
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this time right the other thing too that we need to point out because that description that I gave is just a little
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tricky there the witness lives on Tremont she's not saying that she saw or witnessed this on
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Tremont Road she's saying that she witnessed this near Waltham Road on the and the bicycle was on the south side of
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Waltham Road so this individual lives nearby but was driving in this general area where they witnessed this man or
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young man carrying a small child we also need to point out that this Tuesday in 1980 was a primary election day
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and we have two locations in this neighborhood that are voting locations so we have additional people that are
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out and about on this day for the purpose of voting and we get our first witness eyewitness who says that on
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their way to voting saw something that might be of interest to our case so this is a woman who lives on Riverside Drive
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says that she walked to vote at First Community Village First Community Village is very near where cini ducat's
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body was later found she says that she crossed the Culvert on her way and observed a male white standing on the
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south side of the creek at approximately 100 yards east of her she said that there was something red
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and blue cloth like on the ground in front of him this occurred between 3 25 pm and 4 20
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p.m now another thing to note there as well I know that she's giving us a window of time that is approximately an
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hour but this individual is crossing the same culvert where cine ducat's body will
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later be found I've walked and crossed this Culvert several times I would find it incredibly
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difficult to believe that anybody whether they were looking around or not would not have seen her lying there on
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that day at that time so what this tells me is even though we don't know exactly
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what time this woman is walking and crossing the Culvert she says between 3 25 pm and 4 20 P.M
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whatever time she crossed that Culvert sini is not there she's not there at this time
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and that's going to be key to our case now at approximately 340 to 3 50 P.M we have another woman who returns to the
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Culvert after voting and decides to pick up a rock from the creek that she's going to take home and use as
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a paperweight The Rock came from the location where the body is later discovered again this person gives us a
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different window 340 to 350 pm so now we can say based off of these two eyewitness statements
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that even if we go to the earliest parts of their timeline of their window that they provide for us
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then at 325 to 3 40 PM cine is not located she's not in that Culvert at that time so our window for those four
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hours is starting to shrink a little bit now if we were to take that out to the end of their Windows we're up to 4 20
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p.m I mean it doesn't seem a little insane the day that they find this missing murdered girl
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where there's a bunch of rocks at that somebody stopped to pick up a rock to use it for a paperweight it seems very
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bizarre to me number one but number two I think that it it's one of those things
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that come up in in question you know when when police interview you and you're telling them about your day they
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want to know why you did everything Mark why the hell would you stop to pick up a
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rock or why did you notice that she wasn't there what what proof do you have for that why were you looking around why
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weren't you just minding your own business well I decided to stop and pick up a rock for a paperweight sounds weird
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to me however I don't have this person's name as it's been redacted so I don't know if I should be questioning her
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statement if she's just a regular Mrs citizen that I don't question her statement and I believe it to be true
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and I'm really just trying to figure out when cenee was placed in that Culvert because that's a fact that we know for
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certain that happened and we have the statement of police saying that she was killed there
00:35:29
so we're trying to shrink this window of time this four hours to a much smaller amount of time because we have all these
00:35:36
different people that are seen in the area walking about at this time one of those people that were seen is
00:35:42
responsible for this if not more than one that was seen and so we want to really narrow down who it could be that
00:35:50
placed cenee in that Culvert that day well here's something that's also pretty strange in this case Mr ducat like you
00:35:59
were stating earlier he works close enough to the family's home that he could walk home while he is going across
00:36:05
that that covert where she is found so if she was there at the time it's most likely that Mr ducat would have seen his
00:36:14
daughter yeah and we're going to be able to put a lot of people in this area where her body would eventually be found
00:36:20
that do not see her there they do not see her body lying in that culvert and that really shrinks the window here so
00:36:28
again he would have had to walk across this little bridge to get over this Culvert and I'm telling you there's no
00:36:34
way unless you got blinders on man on both sides of your head there's no way that you're not seeing her lying there
00:36:42
on the rocks at 4 40 PM is when Mr ducot left work and he walked home his normal route
00:36:51
would make him cross that Culvert right I don't have an exact time for when he was crossing that bridge that day but we
00:36:58
know it was after 4 40 p.m so our window is getting even smaller this is going to take us all the way up
00:37:08
to 555 to approximately six o'clock P.M when we have a woman who lives on Waltham Road she walk across the Culvert
00:37:17
on her way to vote again does not see cine in the Culvert we're now up to six o'clock her body's
00:37:25
going to be found before 7 30 PM I think one of the things that makes cases more difficult like in
00:37:33
the 80s is that not everybody has a clock on them we're now almost everybody carries a cell phone your cell phone has
00:37:43
some some kind of clock on it and also you have then time frames of well I saw this
00:37:52
happen and then this person text me so I know it was before that time where in the 80s if you're not carrying a pocket
00:38:02
watch or a wrist watch you probably have no reference of time so some of these people's time frames could be off by you
00:38:11
know 10 to 15 minutes give or take the other thing that we didn't have or wasn't so readily available back then
00:38:18
that we have today is this first Community Village where people are going to and from for voting purposes they
00:38:26
would have had today they got a bunch of cameras set up so they'd be able to go okay Mrs so and so says that she crossed
00:38:33
the Culvert to come here and vote and we have her walking through our doors at this time and Mr so-and-so says that he
00:38:40
left and then had to cross the Culvert to get back to his house well we have him leaving our doors at this time and
00:38:46
so we would be able to get more exact times these times to me are still incredibly important and it's important
00:38:54
to shrink this window we have another eyewitness this is two people actually that say between 6 15 and 6 30 p.m we
00:39:04
have a woman with her son her son is Young we know this because he's on a tricycle if he's if he's not young that
00:39:11
would be weird hey sounds awesome sauce to me but the two of them crossed the Culvert between 6 15 and 6 30 p.m this
00:39:20
again the same location where the body was later found now at 7 26 p.m officer Mike Worley along with two other
00:39:30
individuals Remember by this point in the evening we have neighbors friends neighborhood kids out looking for cine
00:39:39
plus we have the police actively looking for cine at this time so at 7 26 PM we have a police officer along with two
00:39:49
adults from the neighborhood the three of them together sadly discover the body of a scene at ducat
00:39:56
lying at the base of an open Culvert in a stream located on the north side of First Community Village and this is
00:40:04
directly from the police report the victim is lying in approximately four inches of running water with a large
00:40:10
Rock covering her head her head had been crushed by the large Limestone rock that
00:40:15
had been taken from the creek bed she was fully clothed although there were indications that her pants had been down
00:40:22
at one time and then pulled back up it was observed that the pants were unbuttoned and there was grass in her
00:40:29
undergarments well such a sad scene and we we see so many cases like Delphi or West Memphis Three where the the whole
00:40:38
Community is searching for a missing child or missing children and that they don't discover
00:40:45
the bodies until the next day this one within a couple hours they're discovering her body it's almost like
00:40:52
these killers or killer is almost not worried about even trying to conceal the body whatsoever correct and actually
00:41:00
what I think has happened here Captain is we run into a situation where things started going badly for the killer or
00:41:07
killers and now they're just making impulsive decisions based off of getting the hell out of the area as quickly as
00:41:15
they can again it's awfully confusing and such risky Behavior to see such a horrible act in such a a a crime take
00:41:26
place in an area that we can clearly see there's a lot of movement there's a lot
00:41:30
of people out and about for the purpose of voting this around the evening hours but again go back to the three o'clock
00:41:38
hour we have two schools in this neighborhood that are letting out in that three o'clock hour
00:41:44
so there's a lot of kids out and about during the time that she was abducted unless one were to think that she was
00:41:52
just hanging out and doing God knows what for three hours before something terrible happened to her and I don't
00:41:57
think anybody believes that at all I certainly don't believe it I think she was snatched on her way home from school
00:42:03
and then obviously based off of the timeline we just went through she had to be gone
00:42:09
for several hours before someone placed her in that Culvert because we have all these people that say they walked across
00:42:17
that Culvert and did not see a Cena ducat at any time well what's so sad too is that she would be more likely to talk
00:42:26
to a kid you know somebody in their late teens even early 20s when you're that age eight years old you're you're
00:42:34
viewing a even a 20 year old as one of you you know like oh that's just an older kid you don't necessarily with
00:42:43
kids and teenagers view them as dangerous and so they were able to lure her in and then then this assault takes
00:42:51
place and now they go well there's a good chance that she knew her attacker or attackers because
00:43:00
it seems like they're they thought the only the only way out of this is that we have to kill her so she can't identify
00:43:07
us well and the thing here is that goes back everything that you're saying goes back to all of these eyewitness accounts
00:43:14
right the other people in the area at the time that are spotted by these citizens saying hey yeah ice we have one
00:43:22
person saying I saw the victim walking home at this time in this location and we have other eyewitnesses saying I saw
00:43:29
a young male probably 20 years old of average build approximately six foot tall he's in the area at the same time we
00:43:40
have two people that say they believe they saw a similar looking man carrying a small child or a little girl
00:43:48
across the street around the same time the isseneth would have been abducted on her way home now I want to take this
00:43:56
opportunity to clear up a couple things here because I've seen it reported plenty of times this way that
00:44:03
there were some unusual deviations in sini's route that she took home that day I have discussed this with several
00:44:13
people and confirmed this with people that knew cini and it was explained to me as such that ceney had a preferred
00:44:22
route that she would take from her school to her home and there was a group of kids that she
00:44:29
would typically walk with well some of the other kids in the group had a different route that they preferred and
00:44:36
when the kids when the entire group was there they would take this other route it's a more straightforward route less
00:44:43
turns less twists cini's route might be a little quicker but for whatever reason it's been noted
00:44:49
by several of her friends that this was the route that she preferred now we do know that she was walking alone that day
00:44:58
and so she would have taken her preferred route now we go back to the idea of unusual deviations well why
00:45:06
would they believe that there were unusual deviations well we know the route that she ultimately took on the
00:45:11
day that she was abducted and killed because we have several things one we have the eyewitness statements of what
00:45:17
time and where she was and where she was walking at those times as well as they brought in a scent doll to track her
00:45:26
movements from the school and her route home that she took so I believe that the earlier portions
00:45:34
of her route that have those deviations are simply based off of a route that she
00:45:39
preferred and that was the route that she chose to take that day now the other deviations that are the later
00:45:47
part of her route those aren't deviations that she was making by choice in my opinion captain that is when she
00:45:56
started to get nervous she was being followed she did not like somebody that she's seeing in the area she felt uneasy
00:46:03
and maybe she diverted from her route to get away or to avoid someone or a scarier thought
00:46:12
at some point she's being chased by this individual well let's dive into some of
00:46:17
the details of this murder scene yes because the layout of where cenee is ultimately found is very important to
00:46:25
this case and figuring out who is responsible so her body is actually found near a
00:46:33
near the mouth of a culvert this Culvert runs under a service road and mind you if you look at pictures from 1980
00:46:41
compared to 2022 the layout of this land has changed a little bit over the years
00:46:48
it's been filled out a little more but the other place that is curious that is nearby this Culvert where her body is
00:46:57
found is a tunnel which the locals or at least the children of the neighborhood called
00:47:05
Frankenstein's cave now we mentioned earlier that your parents if you lived in this neighborhood would tell you do
00:47:12
not go to Riverside Drive you do not cross Riverside Drive walking or on your bike the road is just far too busy it's
00:47:21
too dangerous for people crossing on foot or on a bike but this Frankenstein's cave is a larger
00:47:29
tunnel that runs underneath that Riverside Drive now this would be another location that your parents would
00:47:36
likely tell you that you are not allowed to go to the other thing too as a child you may
00:47:42
not want to go there anyway because it's called Frankenstein's cave if there were
00:47:46
anybody to be hanging out there this would be the older kids the teenagers the uh maybe people were down there
00:47:53
drinking beer or smoking a joint and somebody had spray painted Frankenstein's cave inside the tunnel on
00:48:00
one of the walls the tunnel walls so this is how it kind of got its name other than that it's a little tricky to
00:48:07
figure out where the name came from but ultimately ceny's body is recovered at the mouth of this Culvert which is
00:48:16
underneath the service road runs underneath the service road that is near Frankenstein's cave that runs underneath
00:48:23
Riverside Drive again we had multiple witnesses that are traveling that are traversing this area this exact area
00:48:33
for that four hour time period of when she was gone so you have to believe based off of those Witnesses not seeing
00:48:42
her there where she's later found that she wasn't there until much later in the evening closer to the time that she was
00:48:49
discovered again the time that we have on record for the police is 7 26 PM there was also a brief description in
00:48:59
The Columbus Dispatch about her autopsy yes according to the June 10th 1980 Columbus Dispatch
00:49:10
skull brain injury killed Duke Girl autopsy shows is the headline a brief description of that article is as
00:49:19
follows in a Columbus Dispatch newspaper article published on the 10th a preliminary autopsy
00:49:26
reported that eight-year-old acina ducat died of skull fractures and brain contusions inflicted when she was struck
00:49:32
on the head with a 20-pound Shale type Rock the autopsy also showed that the third grader had been raped handprints
00:49:41
were left on both sides of her throat as her attacker choked her bruises were found beneath both eyes and on the left
00:49:49
side of the nose Upper Arlington police were to distribute pamphlets describing the murder suspect to motorists on
00:49:57
Waltham Road near where the body was found they hoped to find another witness in addition to the woman who is thought
00:50:04
to have seen the killer carrying the youngster into the retirement complex grounds police also believed that
00:50:10
ducat's killer was the same person involved in the attack of another schoolgirl on May 7th police described
00:50:18
the man as white between the ages of 16 and 20 years old with the Mediterranean look the killer was riding a red Schwinn
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