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this is the case of Taylor Robinson [Music] Taylor Robinson was born on January 28th
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1994 to parents Carmela Robinson Rucker and Winslow Sanders Jr Taylor was an extremely active teenager in all the
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right ways listen to this Captain I know the both of us played a considerable amount of sports growing up so we are
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not easily impressed but right now I am at her High School Taylor competed in volleyball softball track and field and
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she was a cheerleader so four sports that's year round baby anyone familiar with this case who has seen photos of
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this young woman you can tell by her smile and the bright look in her eyes she was full of cheer and spirit and not
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just the kind that is meant to excite fans and Inspire her teammate but genuine cheer and spirit that extends to
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everyone around her Taylor graduated from Kenmore high school after studying Child Development now where we are going
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to pick up this story is in 2013 just 7 years ago Taylor Robinson is 19 years old and living with her Mother
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Carmela and her stepfather Jeff Rucker and her 13y old brother the family lived in archwood Avenue in akan Ohio now akan
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Ohio is one of our larger cities here in the greatest of States Ohio there's about 200,000 people living in akan
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proper akan is about 30 Mi south of good old Cleveland and the list of notable and famous persons from akan is very
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impressive two of the more well-known individuals from akran are LeBron James and stinx Curry both NBA Superstars but
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back to our star Taylor now we said this young woman was very active in high school well that Lust For Life did not
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stop there in 2013 she was just a busy young lady taking classes at Kent State University Stark campus in preparation
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for obtaining her neonatal Nursing degree very important work there Captain yeah that's their biggest satellite
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that's like their satellite University I'm more familiar with the downtown area of Kent so I don't know much about the
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Stark campus on top of her busy College schedule she's also holding down two jobs one was at Bon Worth's clothing
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store as a sales clerk bonworth is a chain clothing store for the ladies according to their website they have
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been a leader in misses clothing for over 50 years Captain so shout out to all of the misses her other job this
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goes along well with her studies this job was as a home health care aid for hands of Care Limited this was a
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position where Taylor would provide inhome care for patients who were incapacitated in some way whether
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because of handicap illness or injury universally the reports about Taylor say that she was basically a model young
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woman she was never in trouble and as we can see she is driven and was hardworking she had never run away she
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was close with her family and she was diligent and conscientious about her schoolwork and her employment duties she
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lived at home and always even as a young adult she abided by her curfew and was always in touch with her mother she was
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a homebody Taylor loved animals both real and stuffed she loved shopping and going to the movies and she attended
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church regularly and there was someone new in her life she adored her new baby a new family baby that was a
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six-month-old long-haired chihuahua named Ryder who loved to follow Taylor everywhere and tag along whenever Taylor
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allowed now Captain we have a missing person's case to deal with so of course we want to go through the details of
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when she vanished we have already discussed the things going on in this young woman's life leading up to the day
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in question and now we have a very specific window of time to discuss so that brings us to the night of Friday
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May 3rd 2013 Taylor was scheduled to work an overnight shift at the home of a patient
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this meant that she would arrive at the Home in the evening care for the patient
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overnight and then depart in the morning this has been a long-term situation I don't know for certain how long she has
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been in this position but at this location it's been for several months maybe even about a
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year right Taylor's patient needs cared for pretty much around the clock Taylor was dropped off at the patient home by
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her Mother Carmela around 10 p.m. when Carmela last saw her daughter she was wearing gray leggings a white T-shirt a
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white and black bandan and shoes they said goodbye and agreed that Carmela would pick Taylor up when her shift
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ended this would be around 700 a.m. the next morning so then Taylor meets with the mother briefly you know a quick
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checken most of Taylor's overnight shifts will be bookended by one one Andor two things Carmela dropping Taylor
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off meeting with the mother then a long night shift followed by mother returning
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home and then Carmela picking Taylor back up in the morning this is something that happened
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dozens of times and the night of May 3rd and going into May 4th should have been
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no different it should have been as they say business as usual but it wasn't on the morning of May 4th the homeowner the
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patient's mother arrived home around 7:00 a.m. from her overnight shift when she entered the house she found to her
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surprise that Taylor was not there this was caused for immediate concern as the patient needed aroundthe clock care and
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was not meant to be left unattended that's the whole purpose of having the caregiver Taylor's position there was no
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sign of the young caregiver now an article in the akan Beacon Journal which we relied on heavily in our research for
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this episode states that the homeowner found the doors locked when she got home it's unknown whether Taylor had a key to
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this home okay so I've been told a call was placed from the mother to Taylor's mother I don't know if that call was
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received or answered this was the mother looking for the caregiver right so either Carmela was already
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aware that something was strange when she arrived or she found out right after pulling up to pick up Taylor and then
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having this discussion with the patient's mother that Taylor was nowhere in sight the reports we have say Carmela
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arrived on location right around 7:15 a.m. mhm this was very discon concerning she was very
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alarmed to find that her daughter was not present she told the Beacon Journal that her daughter would never ever leave
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a patient she was responsible for and Taylor's she left behind some personal items that were very concerning as well
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right like what we'll get into that in a in a bit here because that that is something that's a little further down
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our timeline where would this girl have gone where would this young woman have gone so the alarm was raised
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Taylor's mother and stepfather they're on alert but that whole day Taylor never showed up at home at all she never
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called home she didn't call her overnight job to give any reason for why she left and as we already said Taylor
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was a hardworking individual she valued that job and she loved and respected her
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own mother but for Taylor's family this is going to go from bizarre and worried to extremely concerned and frightening
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very quickly well like you said she's a caregiver and so by her leaving on her own accord she's putting somebody at
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risk and if this person needs 24-hour assistance you might be putting this person at risk to uh at fatal risk
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correct correct so where they get extremely concerned is when the the the parents
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the worry starts to mount with every passing minute every passing hour but we also have another situation where Taylor
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was scheduled to work at bondworth clothing on the afternoon of the 4th this is really going to be the acid test
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here she was missing but if all else failed if for some reason Taylor was just you know maybe up to something or
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if for some reason she could not call home everybody expected she would at the very least arrive as scheduled for her
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shift at bonworth right but she did not and again she's pretty young so you know
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you go okay well this doesn't make any sense she doesn't seem like the type of person to just walk away from her job
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walk away from a patient that would need her care again she's pretty young so it's possible that she made a mistake or
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possibly she was being irresponsible well isn't that just it I mean even you take somebody as responsible as this
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young woman Taylor Robinson and you look at her life and all of her hard work how
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diligent she was about all of her activities and responsibilities but then you go okay
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but we're we didn't expect any of this but she's she's 19 yeah now Taylor never clocked in for her job that Saturday
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afternoon it was at this time when Carmela and the family decided hey we've we've got to go to the police now the
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acan police department responded and from everything I have seen the akan PD took this case very seriously from the
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outset mhm immediately announcing and treating Taylor's disappearance as quote suspicious this makes total sense right
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of course Taylor is an adult free to go off on her own if she should wish it is her right to pick up and take life
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elsewhere but that just does not make much sense we talked just this last week on off the Record about the Long Island
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serial killer investigation out in New York and how that case is moving forward and thankfully in the right direction
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after so much time has passed it sat there stagnant for for years really but just earlier this year after processing
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and evaluating DNA samples remains belonging to someone only known as Manorville Jane Doe just one of several
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murder victims in the Long Island serial killer case she was finally positively identified as Valerie Mack from
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Philadelphia anyone that wants to learn more about that get our show off the record on Stitcher premium or go to the
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website dedicated to that investigation that's Gilgo news.com you can submit tips there as well by the way especially
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if you have any information regarding Valerie Mack but what we did what we talked about on that episode captain of
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off the Record was we talked about how victimology is the foundation of any investigation and now that investigators
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finally know the identity of one of these victims in that case they have a completely new starting point for their
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investigation dramatically increasing their chances of catching this killer in our case here Captain we have obviously
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we obviously know who our victim is in fact we know just about everything we need to know not everything but a lot
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right Taylor is close to her family she tells them what's going on in her life Taylor is busy she has a busy active
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lifestyle and she's attending college she's working two jobs so not only is she busy but the things in her life that
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are keeping her busy well those things we mentioned that are all taking up the majority of her time they all come with
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timestamps on them mhm so she's busy and her time is easily accounted for and it's easy to figure who
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would be the people in the circles of her life in the circles from work and her Social Circles uh from school and we
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have school records we have work records we can figure out likely who is in and out of her life outside of school
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and work we can get this information from her family because she is close to them and what we can't get from the
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family we can get from friends so Taylor knowing who our victim is looking at the
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victimology here Captain we know Taylor was a bright and genuinely good young woman moving forward in this
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world this most likely means that most of her friends will be cut from the same cloth if you will now remember when
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profiling we are going to attempt to profile everything our victim the crime the location and finally our unknown
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offender starting with our victimology we can tell you by everything we know about Taylor that she
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was living a lowrisk lifestyle meaning she's not frequenting places known for high crime
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or violent crime and she is not hanging out with bad people and not making poor choices so knowing this this
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dramatically increases the likelihood that Taylor was either targeted or the abduction that took place that night was
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the result of another crime or something else that happened or something that was going on
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in Taylor's world we are very likely looking for someone in one of Taylor's direct
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circles so now you are looking for two things in our missing person's investigation and trying to determine
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what happened to this young woman you're hoping to find one or the other or both
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I guess because that is going to be where you pick up the red crumb Trail leading you to Taylor and her
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whereabouts or her abductor and evidence of what happened and possibly why you're
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looking for who had the means motive and opportunity to take her meaning someone
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had a reason for targeting Taylor and the ability to carry out the crime or looking for something that happened in
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her life that would later trigger this ABD uction and set the crime into motion who was involved in that event likely
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would be involved in this event so what is the event and or who would Target her the problem with
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deciphering which event may have led to Taylor having gone missing would be fairly easy to identify amongst all of
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the other events going on in her world because everything with her is work and school and working toward her goals so
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this event this it would likely Stand Out amongst the backdrop of the rest of the events going on in her life MH but
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by the same time you are hoping that someone one of the many very good persons in Taylor's life is aware of
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this event but here's the troubling thing often something so powerful that would cause someone to have the
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reaction of abduction or even possibly worse well often one does not sit around and wait to react because this very
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likely is just that some type of hurtful aggression reaction and often that means
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that the event that set this type of terrible reaction into motion likely went down a short period
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of time before whatever happened to to Taylor and unfortunately that could be just minutes or even seconds before she
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went missing so now we have to look into her life and look into what was possibly
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even going on that night that led to this young woman having gone missing while we are thinking through the
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scenarios of either Taylor left work for some yet unknown reason and never returned or
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someone forcibly removing her from her work either way I would say hope is fleeing
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and we say this because based on our victimology we can say with almost 100% certainty that this young woman did not
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just take off and leave her family high and dry so again we're back to square one someone took Taylor but who and
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freedom [Music] all right cheers mates welcome back so a couple questions I have or
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what I think investigators need to look into is MHM who from her work would know
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that she was there and and know that she was supposed to stay overnight also knowing that she doesn't
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have a ride of her own or doesn't use a ride of her own when she's working overnight to me that's a safety hazard
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because you have no way to go get help there's no way for you to um flee so where would she go on foot possibly and
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then I'd also want to know what is her social media activity is she on Instagram is she on
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Facebook is she on Facebook Messenger is she talking with individuals through social media is she on any uh dating
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websites like Tinder or or any of these other dating websites and talking to any individuals through
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that these are all excellent questions I from my understanding of Taylor's work in particular the job where she went
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missing from is this would be kind of a small small staff let's say right so we only need one caregiver for when the
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mother of the patient is not at home but again this patient needs aroundthe clock care from my
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understanding so there would be other nurses not just Taylor or other caregivers whatever you want
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whatever title you choose to use right because I I can imagine that Taylor is probably not covering five nights a week
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but again what I understand of this situation is that she would be working alone and as you said okay well if
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there's a situation where she has to leave or flee I don't think that's ideal that there you know of course it's never
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ideal that there would be a situation that she would need to leave or flee but again the whole purpose of her being
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there is to care for this other person right so if you can't take this other person with you then you're not what
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what I'm wondering is the work structure because a lot of these uh you know the family calls a service that service you
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know that person that runs that service might not be a nurse themselves but has all these connections to these at home
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caregivers and so who is her boss who did the scheduling uh because one of the things
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that you have to look at and especially a case like this with with a a female like
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Taylor is that key word female there's always a possible motive because she's female sometimes right sometimes ladies
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are targeted just because they're ladies right and you're pointing out several good things here who and how would
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somebody know that she is there alone right that night and that's what I think where we will really get into and that's
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where we're going to see some good potential suspects along the way in regards to the situation with her her
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mother with Taylor's Mother Carmela it's my understanding that most of the time her mother dropped her off
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and picked her up but there would be the rare occasion where Taylor would borrow
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the vehicle and drive herself to and from so I think it happened a few different ways but what we have here now
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Captain is we have a 19-year-old woman who's gone missing from her work we now have akaran Police
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Department involved they have already publicly announced that they find The Disappearance of Taylor Robinson to be
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highly suspicious and they are investigating it as such so again they're taking this case serious right
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from the get well I'm pleas you could have all these suspects in that area as well because if you would know that this
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individual uh cannot take care of themselves you'd be seeing nurses come in in every day mhm and so if you had a
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a predator if you had uh some sicko in the neighborhood the the old pervert round Roundup right mhm that this person
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is going to be well aware that there's different females attractive females coming into uh take care of this
00:31:23
individual and again they're basically alone now right so there there's no protection there we also of course have
00:31:30
Taylor's family and friends and people at her work and you know all involved looking for Taylor and actively seeking
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information about her whereabouts while this is all going on while this case is still fresh and still
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new something totally unpredictable happened Taylor Robinson went missing during the night and early morning hours
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of May 3rd and May 4th but then just two days later from a neighborhood in Cleveland remember Cleveland is not
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terribly far from the akan area and from where Taylor was working where she was working we should
00:32:07
also point out is located right by the freeway so just two days later a 911 call sends police out on what can only
00:32:16
be described as a dramatic call to the Treemont neighborhood in Cleveland this is from the Journal Tribune out of
00:32:25
Cleveland the Associated Press was reporting the 911 call the woman caller her voice was frantic and breathless and
00:32:33
she was choking back tears the woman caller said help me I'm Amanda Barry I've been kidnapped and I've been
00:32:40
missing for 10 years and I'm here I'm free now who is Amanda Barry she is a 27-year-old woman who disappeared at the
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age of 16 in April of 2003 mhm Amanda Barry was working at Burger King she left her job at the end of her shift to
00:33:02
go home she never made it home a man named Charles ramsy said he was sitting in his house
00:33:11
eating McDonald's I I don't know why it feels like every single week Captain McDonald's finds its way onto the show
00:33:19
they really should be a sponsor then I think it's part of their marketing plan you know let's buk the garage out of
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thousands of dollars of advertising and just sneak into these these stories somehow so Charles is sitting in his
00:33:31
home eating and he says he hears screaming he runs outside and at his neighbor's house he
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sees quote this is his words I see this girl going nuts trying to get out of the
00:33:44
house he said she was trying desperately to get outside and pleading for help to
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reach the police the door that the woman was trying to get out of would only open
00:33:57
wide enough for her to stick her hand out wow so he's just seeing her hand mid McDonald's yeah mid McDonald's he's like
00:34:05
screaming and then he runs outside he sees this you know just a hand coming out of this screen door and some woman
00:34:12
yelling saying call the police call the police so he decides he's like hey I'm I'm helping this person right so so he
00:34:22
decides to sit down and finish his meal well he ran over he started kicking out the bottom of the door meanwhile a woman
00:34:30
sitting on her porch nearby with some friends says she hears the commotion and runs over to see if she could help the
00:34:38
woman is now freed and she tells the so the woman that ran over her name is Anna the woman
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that's now freed she tells Anna that she is Amanda Barry and Anna the responding
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woman says this woman claimed to be Amanda Barry uh she was visible nervous and she was crying she was wearing
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pajamas and sandals but Anna says I told the young woman you're not Amanda Barry
00:35:03
Amanda Barry is dead the woman then again told Anna I am Amanda Berry I have been kidnapped and was being held
00:35:12
captive Anna gave her the telephone at that point and the recorded 911 call this woman declared I'm Amanda
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Barry I've been on the news for the last 10 years she said she had been taken by
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someone and begged for police officers to come to the home before the man returned those words LED police to a
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house near downtown Cleveland where Amanda Barry and two other women were found Taylor's mother Taylor Robinson
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her daughter's missing has been missing for about two days she watched the breaking news on her TV as she and
00:35:53
others were busy putting together missing person 's flyers for her daughter yeah now none of the women
00:36:01
found and recovered that evening were Taylor the three were identified as Amanda Barry Gina De Jesus and Michelle
00:36:10
Knight all three vanished a decade earlier they had been kidnapped and held captive for all this time soon after the
00:36:18
rescue police arrested 52-year-old homeowner Ariel Castro police also found a six-year-old child
00:36:27
piece of [ __ ] I mean this guy's a piece of [ __ ] one of the women gave birth during their time in captivity Castro
00:36:34
eventually pled guilty to this is this is a high number here captains so get ready Castro eventually pled guilty to
00:36:42
937 counts of rape kidnapping and aggravated murder he was sentenced to life in prison plus 1,000 years with no
00:36:52
possibility of parole the rescue of these victims brought much needed rejoicing to the streets and
00:36:59
neighborhoods of Cleveland it also brought hope to Taylor Robinson's family and to that Community as
00:37:07
well of course we want to know where Taylor is where her whereabouts are but in the investigation the who took her
00:37:17
question is one that investigators will be working on but almost as important is
00:37:23
the why why would someone take her one real scary reality in this case and in a lot of
00:37:33
cases is human trafficking yeah now I love my home state of Ohio but unfortunately we do not have great
00:37:43
numbers here regarding human trafficking in fact according to the Ohio Department
00:37:49
of Health at one time Ohio ranked as high as Fifth Fifth out of 50 states states in
00:37:57
the US well technically this this crime with Castro I mean it's technically a form of human trafficking
00:38:05
right I mean it's not just kidnapping well or or is it just kidnapping well essentially I mean they
00:38:15
he he abducted these they were Girls when they were abducted and then they grew up to be women but he abducted
00:38:22
these girls and held them captive and basically made them slaves during this time
00:38:30
oh and so I mean you can see the state came down really hard on him as they should I mean his his crimes are I just
00:38:39
of the most despicable nature um but again it was what if we just started chopping off all these
00:38:47
dudes PPS right like you get you rape a girl we chop your PP off you think that would stop any of this nonsense because
00:38:56
then you have the situation that did they if do they get it wrong do they get a wrong full conviction you can't go
00:39:01
back on that so well then he's just missing his PP but maybe we need less PPS in this world so let's go back to to
00:39:09
these numbers here Captain let's work our way through this so okay Ohio according to the Ohio Department of
00:39:16
Health at one time Ohio ranked as high as fifth out of 50 states in the US with some of the highest statistics coming
00:39:22
out of Toledo Cleveland and the akan area so the city of akan has seen its share of arrest in regards to human
00:39:33
trafficking crimes obviously but in fact Summit County had some pretty big bust there this year in January so the stats
00:39:42
in Ohio and akan they're not good but this is where we go back to victimology our
00:39:49
victimology here with Taylor is quite different than a substantial chunk of the cases we are seeing in human
00:39:57
trafficking cases especially in that area so again Taylor would still be very much of a lowrisk victim for this type
00:40:07
of crime but as we know from having been doing the show for so long no one is ever truly excluded from being a
00:40:17
possible victim of of really any crime now that we are armed with the hope that came out of C Cleland with the
00:40:26
rescue of three kidnapped victims but also the threat and fears of what might have happened to our young female adult
00:40:35
victim let's see what we can find from the actual investigation yeah but for me it's strange because when I see a
00:40:45
scenario like this what hope you you found some people that might not be connected to your daughter's case at all
00:40:52
I don't get what the hope is if anything it's it's pointing out how messed up this world is and how sick individuals
00:41:01
are out there but you got to keep in mind the desperation of of the of the other victims of the family members and
00:41:08
the friends of people who have gone missing well maybe this is glass half full glass half empty maybe I'm just a
00:41:15
pessimist but it's I I I see stuff like this and go oh and and by the way my daughter's missing oh well there's what
00:41:24
what hope do we have there's when you got sickos like this guy out there but that's why threw in the reaction of Anna
00:41:33
one of the neighbors responding to the commotion where she's told by this woman who is freed from the house says I'm
00:41:41
Amanda Barry and her initial reaction is no you're not Amanda Barry's dead right
00:41:48
that's that's what I mean by hope is that the the all of the other victims the family members the friends of these
00:41:55
missing persons of people that they one day they had to come to the sad realization of
00:42:03
waking up one day and and and going okay maybe they're never coming back okay maybe they're not still alive but then
00:42:12
you see something like this where a a whole Community you don't move on but a whole Community just accepted the fact
00:42:20
that these three women were probably dead or are dead right and then this again something totally unpredictable
00:42:28
boom one day all of a sudden that's not the case that they are still around and and thankfully they've gone on to to be
00:42:35
able to live get relationships back with their families and have families of their own so you want to talk about go
00:42:42
time though too I mean to to hear the the screams or to hear her yelling from that
00:42:52
house because there was probably I mean you said she was missing for how many years 10 10 years there's
00:43:01
probably I don't know let's say a hundred times that there was a possibility that she could have got free
00:43:09
or maybe a thousand times of okay we know his schedule so we're going to try to break loose or whatever it is and now
00:43:16
you're you have this moment where the door is cracked or something your hand you got your hand your hand is in the
00:43:24
land of Freedom right mhm and you're screaming for help but if he came home if Castro came home at that moment I
00:43:31
know but what I'm saying is for that neighbor to hear that and um and we want to talk about go time you know a a
00:43:39
moment of what kind of person are you deep down and how fast you you react and and
00:43:48
because you also don't know what's on the other side of that door I mean you obviously probably know
00:43:53
your neighbor enough to know that they're they're they're shouldn't be some girl screaming but I'm just saying
00:43:58
like you don't know if if he's there mhm well and it's a day that U nobody in that area has forgotten um and it it it
00:44:09
will remain that way for a very very long time so in regards to this investigation about Taylor Robinson's
00:44:18
case and the night in question we do have some information that didn't come out immediately so according to the
00:44:24
Beacon Journal akan police detectives have pledged to make the case a top priority to that end
00:44:32
38 officers and detectives spent days scouring the area around the location of Taylor Taylor's shift on the night in
00:44:43
question some of this time was devoted to scrutinizing abandoned homes garages and anywhere else in the largely
00:44:52
residential neighborhood where the young woman could be further the FBI provided
00:44:58
four agents to assist in the investigation from the third day on the investigation looked into Taylor's
00:45:06
friends and associates they fielded tips followed up on leads and basically did all of the usual investigative things
00:45:17
meanwhile the family handed out flyers and searched the streets looking for any sign of Taylor Taylor's stepdad seems to
00:45:26
have taken on a significant role in looking for her he spoke at rallies and vigils and was instrumental in handing
00:45:35
out flyers I do I'm going to throw this out there as a bit of an aside so we can
00:45:40
kind of just move on from it there are some things about this investigation that I am aware of and that I'm not
00:45:46
allowed to clarify or go into detail of one thing that I have seen in some areas
00:45:55
is is a question question would the stepfather has he ever been a suspect or looked at by police right if he ever was
00:46:02
looked at as a person of interest it has never been mentioned in any newspapers at all and from everything that I see
00:46:10
again he's upfront and he's helping lead the investigation he was even though he's her stepfather he was very much in
00:46:19
the role of her father of her actual father right and there's no reason to believe that anything
00:46:26
anything strange or he had any type of involvement other than helping in the search for for Taylor so
00:46:34
this is not a situation it's very difficult though I mean anybody when a when a family member or friend goes
00:46:42
missing anybody can then become a suspect it's I think a really hard thing for people to deal with but most people
00:46:49
realize that that's a possibility and if you're looked at it as being a suspect I
00:46:54
mean you could even say well look her mother dropped her off so therefore her mother becomes some somewhat of a
00:47:00
suspect but you know just you got to let law enforcement you got to let the detectives um you know rule you out so
00:47:09
they can go on to exactly better better suspects and better ideas that's exactly
00:47:15
right and you have fathers it's it's not uncommon for a father to be looked at within the first hours or days of an
00:47:24
investigation and just as you said that's a that's a sucky situation to be in it's a horrible situation to be in
00:47:35
but where it goes best you have you have the police department that very clearly
00:47:41
is taking this disappearance very seriously and when you observe that as a parent you go okay take your look at me
00:47:50
I'll tell you anything you need to know so you can move on to a a real suspect and here 's no problems looking at me
00:47:58
now Taylor's mother found hope she was vocal about this found Hope in the news about Ariel Castro's kidnapping victims
00:48:06
being found alive in Cleveland on May 6th but on that same date in an article in the Beacon Journal akan detective
00:48:15
Brian Harding said in regards to Taylor's disappearance that it was totally out of character for Taylor and
00:48:23
she had zero history of trouble adding the quote we are at a dead end well on this
00:48:33
case being 2013 we know that people are very connected to their phones that's what
00:48:40
brought up the questions in my mind of what information could we find out about her phone right and so with her
00:48:48
situation with her work situation one would think that that phone is not just for her for her use but it's also so her
00:48:56
Lifeline should she need something sorry I just knocked a bunch of stuff over should she need something during the
00:49:03
course of her shift or if her patient the person that she's taking care of requires anything other than what
00:49:09
Taylor's able to provide then that phone is really truly a Lifeline so so here are some Clues Captain this information
00:49:19
was not reported right away but there was information gleaned from Taylor's cell phone phone we need to mention too
00:49:27
Taylor's phone was not found at her place of work she's missing the phone's missing Reports say that this phone was
00:49:36
shut off shortly after 7:30 a.m. on Saturday now we know that Taylor's mother arrived at the patient's house to
00:49:45
collect Taylor around 7:15 presumably after finding Taylor missing she called her daughter's phone
00:49:54
however it is not stated ated in any reports that I could find what happened when she called did the phone ring the
00:50:02
reports all say that it was shut off right around 7:30 so presumably it may have rang when Carmela called but she
00:50:10
was NE never able to get a hold of Taylor right there was other information on the phone as well and I believe this
00:50:18
information is very likely evidence it's evidence that could shrink the window of
00:50:24
time a bit in the investigation narrowing the gap between the start and the end of Taylor shift to hopefully
00:50:32
point out where we can say okay we know what time she started work we know what time it was supposed to end she went
00:50:38
missing during the middle sometime during the shift right we want to shrink that window a little bit and be able to
00:50:44
go okay sometime between here and here is when we believe that something happened to this young woman Taylor's
00:50:54
phone had been used on the night of May 3rd to interact with some people she knew here's what we know an exboyfriend
00:51:04
whom Taylor dated up until recently called her cell phone late Friday night that call by reports lasted
00:51:15
2 minutes now the exact time of this call has never been published but to me when I see the
00:51:25
reports in the newspaper that say late Friday night obviously we're looking at before midnight before the Midnight Hour
00:51:32
of her shift right I did some digging and I've spoke to some people close to this investigation and just flat out
00:51:39
asked do we know what time or or can somebody tell me what time that call took place and I was told a very
00:51:47
specific time that that phone call was at 10:16 p.m. so shortly after her shift began
00:51:55
began now pay close attention here Taylor or someone this is other information regarding her phone Taylor
00:52:04
or someone using Taylor's phone texted a friend at about 500 a.m. on the morning
00:52:11
of the 4th reports only state that this text made vague reference to seeking a favor
00:52:19
from a friend this text received no response we don't know anything more about that
00:52:29
text but it's a text that you you say is um seeking a response about a favor to a
00:52:36
friend correct okay that that the reports of this text are that we don't know if this text is coming from
00:52:45
Taylor's phone and asking for help or asking for a favor or if somebody is texting and saying I need a ride need a
00:52:55
ride or or or you owe me a favor or I can help you with this I don't know in regards to the relationship of who was
00:53:03
going to be you know handing out the favor or asking for a favor or what but the information we have is that Taylor
00:53:11
and I think that that's that's the key to this bit of information here that comes out Taylor or someone using
00:53:19
Taylor's phone texted a friend at about 5:00 a.m. on the morning of the 4th so we know that she answered her phone
00:53:29
at 10:16 and had a two-minute phone call right and the reports are T Taylor or somebody using her
00:53:37
phone sent out a text around 5:00 a.m. is that gives us a time frame of less than seven hours it shrinks it a bit we
00:53:46
were looking at a a time frame of roughly 9 hours and now we've got that under seven hours to be concerned with
00:53:55
now this next portion will further bolster the shared theory that Taylor did not walk away to go off somewhere
00:54:04
this bit of info was held back initially but was released to the public eventually and this is very important
00:54:11
here Captain the reports were that Taylor's jacket and shoes were found at her place of work after she went missing
00:54:21
there is no indication from the reports put out there that police found blood hair or really any sign of a struggle at
00:54:29
her work there is no indication that investigators found any evidence of forced entry at her
00:54:35
work nothing to the doors nothing to the windows well I'm just wondering if she brought a pair of
00:54:42
shoes and I this might be an additional pair of shoes the ones that she was wearing yeah it might be a leap but I I
00:54:49
know with some nurses that they like to wear certain shoes while they work so maybe they
00:54:57
would bring a pair with her but we have one thing here that you don't have in most investigations in regards
00:55:05
especially to we have the eyewitness that dropped her off we have her mother saying hey she didn't bring a pair shoes
00:55:11
with her right this this is what she was wearing this is what she brought with her
00:55:15
to work that night ja yeah but jacket being there that don't bother me people will leave all the time without the
00:55:21
jacket but you're going to leave without your shoes and that's exactly what her mother pointed out that terrified her
00:55:27
the most when she figured out what was going on because keep in mind she knows the public don't they don't know that
00:55:35
there was a coat and a and shoes left at the scene we don't find this out until much later right but her mother
00:55:43
immediately knows I dropped her off yeah she left her jacket there no big deal like you said people I was I went to a
00:55:52
friend's house just a week ago and left a jacket there but people don't leave without their
00:55:57
shoes right yeah you don't make it home and go Hey where's my shoes oh shoot I left my shoes at my friend's house again
00:56:05
well and I have sensitive feet I can't be walking around on the concrete with my sensitive feet just not going to
00:56:12
happen well and the thing here too we we we got the evidence that that she left some things at her
00:56:20
work her personal items those were the personal items that were referenced earlier when we also have the reports
00:56:27
stating there was no forced entry found to the work well no force entry and we also believe that the doors were locked
00:56:36
they were found locked according to the reports after she's found to be missing right so no forced entry to the doors no
00:56:43
forced entry to the windows right so to just Ponder this I mean even if a friend
00:56:49
is pulled up and you're going to go talk to him one why would you lock the doors
00:56:54
why would you walk out there with no shoes just doesn't make a lot of sense right and that's what I'm pointing out
00:57:00
that this information is going to leave us really with fewer and fewer possible working theories to to further this
00:57:09
investigation Captain it it's looking like one of the following theories would work and I'll start with the least
00:57:17
likely and work my way through either someone this could be a stranger or maybe even someone she knew grabbed her
00:57:26
from the porch or outside but still on the property of her work while she just so happened to be
00:57:35
outside with no jacket no shoes and then Taylor puts up so little of a struggle that there was no evidence of an attack
00:57:42
outside and no eyewitnesses or better yet ear Witnesses this seems highly unlikely given the very low probability
00:57:53
factors for that to all come together or maybe we have someone who was targeting
00:58:00
Taylor and knew that at her place of work Taylor would basically be alone and in a state of
00:58:06
vulnerability and if it were a stranger perhaps using a ruse of some sort convinced Taylor to open the door or
00:58:14
maybe even let him in or it's someone she knows and she willingly opens the door or lets this person in
00:58:25
I think given everything we have gone over I would be shocked if anyone by this point is leaning toward the idea of
00:58:32
an offender unknown to our victim and given that we have no ear witnesses to screams or struggle outside
00:58:41
we are very likely looking at a scenario where Taylor opened the door and let someone into her work and something
00:58:49
happened inside that resulted in this person taking Taylor [Music] for everything true crime garage check
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