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takes place in Philadelphia back in July 29th of 2000. two young sisters played outside while waiting for their mother
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to return from across the street with dinner Ariana DeJesus and her sister had been riding bikes in the neighborhood
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and enjoying the summer as kids will do when their mother returned with dinner just a few minutes later five-year-old
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iriana was nowhere to be found now the little girl was reported missing and the neighbors helped search for the young
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girl for several days well on August 3rd the remains of a child were found in an
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empty apartment building in the family's neighborhood not far from where she was
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last seen it was soon confirmed that that the body was that of Ariana de Jesus it was discovered that the young girl
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had been raped and then strangled before her body was placed in a trash bag and left underneath heavy rolls of carpet in
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the apartment building near the body was a t-shirt with a political logo on it this t-shirt also contained the blood of
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the little girl a resident of the apartment building this is Jorge Contreras he recognized the shirt as one
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that he had lent to a homeless Drifter known to him only as Carlos so earlier that same summer Jorge took pity on this
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young homeless man he gave him clothing he gave him shelter he even gave him a job to do he worked at Hunting Park
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Carlos worked there about three days a week now Jorge Contreras he had to go out of town this is the weekend of July
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29th and when he went out of town he gave Carlos a set of keys this is to an apartment so that he would have access
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to the building so he could get in there and do some work while the man was away
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now another girl in the neighborhood would eventually tell police that she had seen Ariana walking with a Hispanic
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male this is the evening that she had gone missing and that she was holding the man's hand they were walking in the
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direction of the apartment building where the body was later found after that night Carlos was nowhere to be
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found in Philadelphia nowhere in the neighborhood a sketch Was Made of This Carlos and DNA that was found at the
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crime scene was entered into a National Database this is the CODIS database in hopes of finding out more about this
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suspect unfortunately no match is turned up and tips of the suspect's whereabouts
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turned up empty the case soon turned cold since he had not been seen since the girl went missing Carlos then became
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wanted for questioning we mentioned the sketch of him as well this was profiled on the show America's Most Wanted
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but later police are going to get a huge break in this very tragic unsolved murder a man named Alexis Flores he was
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arrested in Phoenix Arizona for shoplifting in 2002. now two years later police came to Florida's residence in
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response to a noise complaint while talking to him he ends up giving the officers fraudulent identity documents
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well possessions of these items in Arizona is a felony so he is arrested and when he's arrested they noted that
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his demeanor was welcoming and friendly they really didn't have anything bad to say about the guy he didn't go you know
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he didn't put up a fight when he was arrested but they ended up searching his apartment after he's arrested for
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further investigation officers noticed pornography spread out across the floors he also had a refrigerator that was
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fully stocked with Kool-Aid I wonder what color it was well the officers noted in their police report the items
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that they found to be strange in his apartment now on both of these charges both the shoplifting and the forgery or
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the fraudulent identity documents charge he is arrested and convicted on both of
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these charges right well the forgery charge from 2005 is a felony so because of this they took his DNA at that time
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he served 60 days for this felony charge in 2005. a Flores was deported to Honduras this is where he told police
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that he was originally from it wasn't until the following year this is in 2006 that Flora's DNA was added to CODIS or
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the combined DNA index system so CODIS is a generic term used to describe the FBI's support program for criminal
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justice DNA databases in 2007 a positive match was made between his DNA and the sample that was found way back when at
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the apartment building where Ariana was killed and I'll post a picture of Flores
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is but uh he has black hair brown eyes he's about five four it's a pretty small 130 to 140 pounds he's he's slim a light
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complexion he also has a scar on his forehead and right cheek well after the DNA match was confirmed an arrest
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warrant was issued by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania charging Flores with murder now in June of 2007 the Federal
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Bureau of Investigation added flores's name to the most wanted list in an effort to catch the suspect in this
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grisly murder of a young Pennsylvania girl Flores replaced Shantae Henderson on the list this was an alleged Kansas
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City gang member who was caught on March 31st of that year now the same day she was placed on the list was the same day
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she was apprehended so he replaces her and now they're offering a 100 000 reward for information that leads to the
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capture of Alexa Flores the thing here is though authorities do do believe that floors is probably still living in
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Honduras where they sent him back to after he committed the felony right but regardless you know we saw the situation
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yesterday when we talked about van Wiese you know we were able to get him extradited back from Mexico so he could
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finally serve out that that prison sentence that he deserves for murder and the uh the authorities here are very
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they're still very determined to bring him to justice for the murder of a little girl and as always when we see
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with these Predators these people that rape and kill the concern a big concern and this should be a concern for the
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people of Honduras right you know this is why you want to get this guy out of your country do you want to is that what
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you want to tell your people that you know we understand that you're from this country you go off to another country
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and you commit horrible acts against very innocent people against children yeah and then guess what you can just
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come back here and we will house you and you won't ever have to see you won't ever have to serve punishment or jail
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time for your crimes that's not what you want to tell your people you know I think that I think regardless if you
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agree with our punishments or or our prison system or or the the structure of society that we've created here I think
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you tell your people you know what if you do the crime you're going to have to go back to that place and you're going
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to have to face trial he raped his victim so I'm gonna I'd put money on the fact that this was not his first victim
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as far as a sexual assault goes so you have that threat you know it's not just the murder threat uh of somebody or a
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child in Honduras we have sexual assault threats that you know and that needs to
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be taken very serious yeah and I mean who who knows maybe Kool-Aid is his beverage of choice I don't know
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everybody enjoys a nice glass of Kool-Aid every now and then but now with a Kool-Aid but I'm just saying that it's
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it seems like it would be something that you would use to lure a child or a young
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potential victim with you know so it it to me I feel like we have a guy here that is is extremely dangerous all right
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right so you're just assuming that you know this guy that he has Kool-Aid for children that that is my assumption yes
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I was just going to assume that he has it because he's you know a thirsty man well but also it's cheap so we just lost
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our Kool-Aid sponsor yeah I just to me this guy just just screams danger and I think that regardless of where he's
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hiding they should be happy to send him back here to face trial well and this is
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kind of deceiving you know his age is a little deceiving because he he is so small yeah and he's got a very young
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looking face yeah I mean he looks uh in the one picture I mean he looks 12. um so I think that's going to be hard
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for people to identify this individual well just a couple notes of the most wanted poster featuring Flores uh you
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know he's gone over he's gone by several different aliases over the years but more importantly you know we're we're
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noting how young he looks he's also given several different birth dates over the time and they don't seem to be 100
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convinced of where he was born right let me read those off so he states that he was born in 1975
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1982 1980 and then again 1982. so you know he's going to be 35 to you know 40 years old if any of those
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dates are correct at all we're 42 years old so and he and like I said and the one picture he looks like maybe
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12. and the other picture Maybe 16 17. so who knows yeah and the other thing make sure you go to fbi.gov wanted
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check out the pictures of all these individuals that are wanted by the FBI who knows maybe you can help in one of
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these cases now this next case here Captain is one that has been featured on you know yesterday we talked briefly
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about Unsolved Mysteries and America's Most Wanted this one has been featured on both of those shows uh this our story
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takes us back to March 2nd 1976 and this starts in a wooded swamp area off of North Carolina Highway 94 which is about
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five miles south of Columbia North Carolina now around noon that day you know out in this area this is a heavily
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wooded area so they have these forestry Towers yeah I know I've seen Dawson's Creek yeah so with these towers Captain
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they are looking for anything that could go wrong in the area well on this date around noon they spot a fire which is a
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big concern CERN out here because this could quickly turn into a forest fire so they send a they dispatch a ranger out
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to the area where the smoke is rising from the trees right the fire had started to spread a little bit by this
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time by the time the ranger arrived but once he was there he discovered a hole somebody had dug a hole and what he
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first thought was burning in the hole was an animal carcass well he puts out the fire and he then can see that there
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is a shoe sticking out of out of these burned charred remains that are in the hole well he gets police out there and
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they look through the area and they pull a body out of the hole well underneath that body is another one and then
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another one and then another one Unfortunately they end up finding five total bodies in this hole and they said
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that it got so traumatic to the officers there that every time they pulled one out they were praying that they would
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see the bottom of this hole now the hole was quite wide and it was about three foot deep but the way that the officers
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described it was that somebody had simply dug this hole filled it with these bodies they also found a gas can
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and a shovel there and they must have just tossed you know doused it with gasoline lit it on fire and took off now
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they stated that the area itself was only about a mile away from one of these forestry Towers so whoever set this fire
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they didn't leave that scene too too much earlier than these guys had arrived to find what was burning right so they
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almost ran into the suspect correct and the thing here is like we said they got immediate problems with this crime scene
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and with the victims and that being one that the victims are so badly burned that they can't identify them right okay
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and then second of all they don't have anybody missing they don't have anybody as reported missing let alone five
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people five people that might have been traveling together they might live together or they might be un unknown to
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one another who knows at this point so the the problem is we've got to figure out one who is in this who was in
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this hole and two who put them there so back then you know we have you know it's
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not the same landscape as it is today regarding detective work so back then they had to do they had to hit the
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pavement and these guys my hand is off to them because they hit it pretty hard the only clue that they found at the
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scene was the gas can and was the shovel now on the shovel there was like there was a bit of a price tag you know like a
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maybe half of a price tag on there and they could make out the letters Och and then there's a space
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hdw so back then they're looking for a hardware store right and their thought is well there's no hardware store in
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this area that ends with the letters OCH so two investigators hop in a car and they start driving and they go from town
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to town and and while they're you know they have people at their office contacting police departments in the
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surrounding areas asking simple questions like is there a hardware store in your neighborhood or in your neck of
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the woods with with it would end in OCH right nowadays they can just go back to their desk and Google this they're out
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driving for quite some time and they make it all the way up to the Washington DC area and once they're there they are
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told by the police department there that there is a hardware store in a suburb of
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this area that is called POC hardware store so p-o-c-h yeah and they're going to talk to the people in the hardware
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store but they're not going to be able to tell them who bought this item again because it's you know 76 right they
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don't have these records they can't just pull it up on their database especially
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if it was a cash purchase right in my local town like late 80s early 90s when you'd go to the hardware store they
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would do handwritten receipts so I mean couldn't imagine what their system was right you'd be you'd be searching
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through boxes of piles of receipts trying to come up with a name um so the investigators they don't
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really know what to do with this lead they feel confident that they've traced the shovel back to where it was
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purchased from however so they don't really know what else they can do in this area they decide that what they're
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going to do is they're going to place a poster in the hardware store that's saying that you know we have some
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missing persons that were found in deceased in North Carolina and we need your help if you know anything if you've
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seen anything let us know I guess on this poster you know we have five victims but they only put four victims
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pictures on there because one of them was so badly burned that it might have been either horrifying to look at or of
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no useful help at all well I'm sure they're not putting pictures of the burnt bodies on there
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they had to they didn't know who these people were wow so they're posting in public
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ah man that would be charred victims can you imagine you're just going you know going to get charcoal that's bad oh if
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you're going to go get uh um some mulch or something and then you have you see this photo I'm scared you
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know think about all the kids that walk probably that well according to police reports this would be about a week later
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on March 10th there was a neighbor uh he lived in the neighborhood in a neighborhood in Bethesda now he grew
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concerned about the family next door about their absence claiming that that he had not seen them for about a week so
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this neighbor contacted the local police who dispatched a detective to the home now after meeting with the neighbor who
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had a key to the home uh the detective used the key to get into the home to see if anything was wrong as he approached
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the front door he found blood droplets on the front torch and he entered the home only to discover that there was
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blood spatter everywhere it was on the floor it was on the walls it was in the bedrooms some of it even covered the
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ceilings right and the blood on the porch gives the officer proper cause yes this detective stated that in his 12
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years as a police officer and still to this day this was the worst crime scene he had ever observed now whose home was
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this this was the home of the bishop family this was a family of five plus uh we have Brad Bishop he's the father his
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mother lives there with the family as well well it doesn't take too long Captain for them to figure out who was
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in that hole because using dental records they confirmed that the bodies found in North Carolina were that of
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Bishop's Wife his mother and his three sons and our Target suspect is going to be obviously the Father William Bradford
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Bishop Jr we'll get back to this after a quick beer break [Music] all right we're back cheers mates so who
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is William Bradford Bishop Jr well he goes by Brad bishop and he's a pretty accomplished Man by the time of 1976 he
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has he has graduated from Yale he also has a master's degree in an Italian from Middlebury College so this is a
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well-schooled well-educated man yeah it lists that he speaks five languages and that he also his occupation was United
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States government Foreign Service Officer yeah and before he worked for the U.S state Department he spent four
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years in the U.S army where he worked in counterintelligence so this is a guy that has a bit of a unique background
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well he spent a lot of time working as the captain had said in the U.S form in service this was for many postings
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overseas some of the postings included Italian cities and he was I mean he was well traveled well educated the thing
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here is Captain when he was working for the U.S state Department they have a a bit of a situation where it's like this
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it's an up or out situation meaning that you either keep getting promoted year after year to new job assignments or
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once you stop receiving these promotions well you get fired you get let go right
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this is the same thing I've been trying to tell you about the garage I mean if you don't take the the position of
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Colonel we're gonna have to get rid of you well I've applied and there are several people that will vouch for my uh
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you have not applied ability you have not applied you keep denying the request of Colonel you know what I tell you what
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Captain there's only two of us here in the garage so I really think my best ability is my availability so I'm here I
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should get the job the thing here is Captain so he by this point in 1976 he's no longer working overseas when he
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worked overseas his family was there with him and it's a it's a much different lifestyle when you're at these
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different postings in other cities throughout the world you know you receive a whole bunch of privileges and
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on top of that you get your regular salary but you're also you basically have no cost of living you know they're
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providing housing for you Transportation things of that nature so when you have to come back and start working in the
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United States you still collect your salary but now you have to pay for cost of living and this guy he liked to live
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a bit of a lavish lifestyle when he could he got used to that overseas so back in the United States
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they take in his mother who's living with them and maybe from the outside looking in it looks like you're doing
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something nice for your mother you know she has a place to stay and you're helping her out but one thing
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investigators were able to figure out was that the situation wasn't quite that Mom was really helping out more than
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what Brad was helping out okay so Mom is not only helping with the children and cooking meals and things like that but
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she's also helping the family financially well in early 1976 Brad Bishop he was anticipating a promotion at work
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remember we said this is an up or out program and on the afternoon of March 1st 1976 he actually learned that he was
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not going to receive the promotion that he had sought after learning this uh information his co-workers would say
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that he seemed extremely angry and he told his secretary that he was not feeling well and he left work early that
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day now just outside of the building in which he worked he came across one of his co-workers and his co-worker said to
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him hey Brad you know what's wrong you look like you've lost your last friend and Brad says to his co-worker he says
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you know well it's official I didn't get the promotion that I was looking for his co-worker says to him
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well I didn't get the promotion I was looking for either he says you know Brad just take it easy you should just go
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home try to get some sleep tomorrow's a new day give me a call next week and we'll try to figure something out well
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Brad is a bit of an arrogant dude his name's Brad and Brad says to his co-worker
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um you know I know you didn't get your promotion but I was much more deserving of the promotion that I was seeking so
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the co-worker says unfortunately he never heard from Brad Bishop again well unfortunately he didn't
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police have figured out that after he left that day from the U.S U.S state Department headquarters he went to a
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bank where he withdrew several hundreds of dollars he then drove to a Montgomery
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Mall and bought a sledgehammer and a gas can at the Sears from there he filled he
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went to a gas station and filled the gas can as well as filling up his vehicle this is a station wagon and from there
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he drove to pox Hardware which this was the time where he purchased the shovel right The Smoking Gun
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well after this he returned to his home and police believed that he would have got there between 7 30 and 8 pm
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after dinner he and his wife put the children to bed and after which his wife went into the study and she's working on
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some correspondence and such and his mother decided to take the family's dog this is a golden retriever for a walk
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well while his mother is gone on the walk Brad he attacks his wife in the study and this Sledgehammer we said he bought
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a sledgehammer but it's not you know the big long-handled Sledgehammer it's it's
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got the sledgehammer head with a more traditional uh handle of a hammer so it's a handheld deal and he attacks her
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in the study they could determine this by the amount of blood that was found in the study they believed that after he
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had killed his wife that he carried her into their bedroom and placed her on the
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bed and closing the door he then went upstairs into the children's bedrooms and attacked them as
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they slept now one of the kids slept in a bunk bed and so one thing that the police found incredibly disturbing
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amongst all the blood that was in the house was the number of times that they could tell that when he was pulling the
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sledgehammer up that he was hitting the ceiling and and making marks and holes in the ceiling and the number of times
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that he had to do that while he killed his child this is an animal well his mother would return from
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walking the dog and they believed that she must have spotted some of the blood because she apparently tried to lock
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herself in the bathroom to get away from Brad well Brad he kicks in the door um and it's not so easy you know he
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really had to beat down this door to get into the bathroom and there he killed his mother
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from there they believed that he cleaned himself up that he took a shower maybe a
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change of clothes and then he loaded all of the bodies of his family into the family station wagon
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from there he drove over 275 miles down to that spot in North Carolina where on the next day he
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dug the shallow hole and He piled the bodies into the hole and doused them with gasoline and set them Ablaze it
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seemed like he had a definitive plan yeah here's the thing captain and this is one thing I found it's extremely
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interesting was investigators wondered why he wouldn't have just buried his family you know because they state that
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yeah at some point we would have noticed that this empty house you know there was
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nobody in this house anymore and we have some missing persons but this was only have tons of blood yeah but the thing
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here is he could have eventually cleaned up that house uh any number of things could have happened and they just really
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wonder why he didn't bury them because they really believe given the location that he chose to set this fire that they
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may have never found the bodies of his family right and in an interview remember I said this was covered on on
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solve mysteries in America's Most Wanted later it was covered on the hunt you know the the John Walsh show right and
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on that show they had an interview with the psychiatrist that said you know for in his opinion for Brad killing his
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family his family the murders didn't stop when they were dead for for Brad the murder stopped after he drove the
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bodies out into the woods dug the hole and set him on fire and almost the the his
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because he's such a psychopath and that he was such a narcissist that he believed that these people were holding
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him back that he couldn't live the life that he wanted to live because of his family and then the psychiatrist
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believes in his opinion that the murders weren't over until he set that fire and
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somebody found the bodies of his family yeah well like I said before this you know Brad is a animal but
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um what made him that way I don't know I mean look he was in the service during the Vietnam war
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what testings were being done right so I mean I I think you know he was you know a spy at one point right so
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you know what was done to him was it as simple as this guy was a psychopath and he didn't get a promotion and that made
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him snap and then he killed everybody in his family you know or was there something deeper
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that happened yeah and he was on some medications for some um for some mental illnesses let's say
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they also believe that he may have suffered from some form of insomnia but regardless oh yeah because you know when
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you can't sleep you just kill everybody in your family right I don't I don't want to make it sound like we're
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sympathizing for this guy you know this guy clearly could not handle the stresses in his life that was brought
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upon by his own choices that he made in life maybe his choices I'm just saying look you know you like we said he speaks
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five languages he he's you know overseas doing intelligence work what what what did this guy go through I'm just saying
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like I I think the how this individual got to this point uh to to be able to kill uh not only his wife but his
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children and then his mother I mean you have to what did you go through I think that that's the mystery to me right
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because we all want to know why when something that like this happens I mean this is one of the most horrible things
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you can think of you want to know why how the hell did it get to be this way well I mean we we may never know we may
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never know but but I will throw out there this you know you have other options you can just walk away you can
00:31:43
just walk away and not you know end the lives of these people that are supposed to be your loved ones right but
00:31:49
sometimes it's not that simple that's all I'm saying is we don't know what this individual went through I'm not
00:31:54
trying to sympathize with them but you know there was a lot of testing done with you know LSD for example you know
00:32:01
you you do these kind of testings right on these individuals and we they did it with um they did testing on Ted
00:32:08
Kaczynski and look what happened there you know so there is a consequence if they're running these tests I'm just
00:32:15
wondering if he was a part of that because it seems like in his professional life that's the uh
00:32:21
Community he was surrounded by yeah but I mean I I get it and I have no evidence of
00:32:27
that right I get what you're saying I think I get I guess what I keep going back to is the cowardliness of killing
00:32:33
these people ambushing them and then you he didn't even bother to take his own life you know he he clearly valued his
00:32:41
own life much more than we know of than than theirs and he chose instead of walking away he chose to kill them and
00:32:48
then walk away well let's get back on the trail of Brad Bishop uh real fast here uh so they believe the police
00:32:55
believe that uh and later confirmed this that that same day that he lit the fire
00:33:00
that Bishop visited a sporting goods store in Jacksonville North Carolina uh there he used a credit card to purchase
00:33:08
some tennis shoes they believe that because of you know digging the hole and all the work that he did up in those up
00:33:15
in that forested area that he was in need of some new shoes now the strange thing here is according to one witness
00:33:22
there were there were several people that had seen him at the sporting goods store but according to one witness he
00:33:29
had a fan he had the family dog with him on a leash and was possibly accompanied
00:33:34
by a woman described as dark skinned this would be the only report of seeing him with uh with a woman so it might
00:33:43
just have been somebody walking near him I don't know the details of that eyewitness account
00:33:50
um now we have on March 18th the bishop family car that was the station wagon that we had mentioned it was found
00:33:57
abandoned in an isolated camping ground in Tennessee this is in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park uh the car
00:34:05
contained dog biscuits a bloody blanket a shotgun an ax a shaving kit and it also contained his the medication that
00:34:15
he was on at the time the spare tire well in the trunk of the car was full of blood this is where he had stacked the
00:34:24
bodies when he was transporting them now according to witnesses there the car had
00:34:30
been there since approximately March 5th or 6th or 7th they couldn't narrow it down but they believed that it could
00:34:37
have been there as early as March 5th police theorized the Bishop from there would have left on foot on the
00:34:44
Appalachian Trail right but that's that's not an easy Trail to to manage and people planned that out for years
00:34:52
and years to go through that trail well while they were there after finding the vehicle they decided that they were
00:34:59
going to try to track uh Mr Bishop using Bloodhound dogs they were unsuccessful in their attempt now on March 19th a
00:35:09
grand jury indicted Bishop on five counts of first-degree murder and several other charges and obviously they
00:35:16
have plenty of evidence for these charges and there were some sightings of uh Brad after this as well yeah there
00:35:23
were a lot of sightings of him and a few that they list is credible but one thing
00:35:29
he here Captain the the police have an uphill battle I mean I'm not suggesting that they're not intelligent but we're
00:35:37
dealing with a man of a certain High Intelligence here also you know with the ability to speak many different
00:35:43
languages he can fit in you know in different localities all over the world it's not that he's like some genius but
00:35:50
he was also trained by our government encounter intelligence have you and the thing here is Bishop had approximately
00:35:57
one week of advanced time before the authorities began looking for him and during that time he could have even used
00:36:04
his passport to travel outside of the U.S you know keep in mind the methods of air travel and immigration back in 1976
00:36:11
and throughout much of the world were much different back then he could have easily traveled and avoided leaving a
00:36:19
paper trail of any kind right his name is Frank Abagnale and like you had said Captain uh Bishop had been cited a
00:36:27
number of times in various European countries over the years and there were a few credible sightings
00:36:33
um and of those let's go through those real quick in July of 1978 a Swedish woman who said that she had worked with
00:36:42
Bishop while on a business trip in Ethiopia she reported having spotted him twice in a public park in Stockholm
00:36:51
Sweden during a span of one week she stated that she is absolutely certain that the man she saw in the park is Brad
00:37:00
Bishop now let's fast forward to the following year in January of 1979 Bishop was reportedly seen by a former U.S
00:37:09
state Department colleague in a restroom in Sorrento Italy um the the colleague the colleague spoke
00:37:18
to him uh I've heard an interview with this guy and he says you know this is a an old dude I like these Old-Timers he
00:37:24
says it's an old dude he's an old dude man he's he's probably in his late 70s by now right it's strange enough this is
00:37:31
the same guy that saw Brad Bishop when he found out he was not getting promoted all the guy that wasn't as qualified
00:37:38
right Brad told him you're less deserving than me you don't deserve this so in his interview he starts off the
00:37:44
interview by saying you know what I don't I don't normally speak to people in men's restrooms
00:37:50
you know it's kind of an old dude thing but anyway he says that he went into the
00:37:54
restroom I don't like to do that either and there's a you know there's a dude standing there and of course he's got a
00:37:59
you know you gotta get up on the wall and sometimes you have to stand next to somebody and so he's standing next to
00:38:04
him and he's he looks over and he he said the guy is has a long face he has a beard and he said you know what
00:38:13
immediately when I looked at the guy even after you know after several years he goes I knew right away who this was
00:38:21
right because he's the [ __ ] that told you that you weren't qualified yeah you never forget that face yeah you don't
00:38:26
forget an [ __ ] beard or no beard so he says to the guy he just says you're Brad Bishop aren't you right and he said
00:38:33
as soon as the words came out of his mouth that the man started shaking and he's and he kind of jumped back and he's
00:38:40
he's shouted out something and he ran out of the restroom well he tried to follow him and he eventually this guy
00:38:48
that he believes to be Brad Bishop took off and ran down an alley now we also have a situation this is some real Jason
00:38:56
Bourne stuff right there yeah we have this situation in 1994 September 19 1994. uh this is in Switzerland uh on a
00:39:05
train and a person who had known bishop and his family back from Bethesda was on
00:39:13
vacation in Europe and reported that she had seen Bishop uh just a few feet away
00:39:18
from her on the train and she stated that uh that Bishop appeared to be well groomed uh at the time to have a beard
00:39:26
he went through his beard phase he got rid of the beard well he's probably you know could be changing his appearance
00:39:32
you know constantly during his time on the run so I mean it's most likely that uh Brad Bishop is in the UK well
00:39:42
somewhere in Europe is what I think that they're stating here um a quick little profile here Captain
00:39:48
the FBI states that Bishop was an avid Outdoorsman who enjoyed camping and Hiking he does have a pilot's license so
00:39:56
not only does he speak all these different languages he has the ability to fly he also has a six inch vertical
00:40:03
scar on his lower back from a surgery how are you going to say six inch vertical leap what does that have to do
00:40:09
with anything he has a cleft chin and he has a mole on the left side of his face
00:40:14
now police believe that Bishop uh left with his passport they found all of the other passports of his family in their
00:40:22
home they did not find his they also believed that he would have had his Yale class ring with him when he vanished who
00:40:29
knows if he still would have this to this day now fugitive status the police they believe as of 2010 that he was
00:40:39
still alive possibly living in Switzerland Italy or some other location in Europe now here's a weird thing that
00:40:46
they kind of throw in here with really nothing to back it up they say that he still might be in the United States
00:40:53
possibly in California where if if this were to have been him did they believe he may have worked as a teacher at some
00:41:02
point and possibly have been involved in more criminal activities food yeah yeah
00:41:07
nothing really to back that up it seems like there's a lot more to back up the the thought that he could be in Europe
00:41:13
somewhere would be easier to teach over there I mean we got a guy that's fluent in multiple languages for him to be able
00:41:19
to go I mean they'll take non-college graduates and teach English over there sometimes so I could see that be an
00:41:27
impossibility but you know the the thing about William Bradford Bishop is um he would be in his 80s yes so he would
00:41:37
be uh he would be roughly 80 years old yeah right so if he did not kill himself if uh these sightings were accurate and
00:41:46
he lived you know life outside of this uh crime uh he's probably dead or going to be dead soon uh yes so um I I don't
00:41:57
know that this this 100 rules out you know possibility of suicide or if he was killed in another way but during the
00:42:04
time of their investigation in the mid to late 70s they were checking any unidentified male bodies in the area
00:42:13
um and they confirmed they couldn't confirm any of them to be that of Brad Bishop there was a situation in 2014
00:42:19
where there was an unidentified man who had been killed uh in a hit and run situation in Alabama and they had
00:42:27
checked his body to see if he would be Brad bishop and of course that was not the case now for a little more uh
00:42:35
information on Brad Bishop of course you can go to fbi.gov wanted now on there they have a 2014 age progression
00:42:44
sculpture this was requested by the FBI and a forensic artist created this sculpture hideous it's it I mean not the
00:42:53
work itself it's great work but this guy becomes hideous yeah and this would be uh him projected his projected
00:43:02
appearance in this sculpture would be at the age of 77. an FYI this show was not
00:43:08
sponsored by uh fbi.gov wanted just to let you know yeah we keep saying that but we're just
00:43:16
hoping that people will check that website you know periodically check it out you know from time to time remind
00:43:21
yourself that there are people out there that need uh to be apprehended they need
00:43:26
to be questioned they need to be brought to trial and we can all certainly do our
00:43:30
part we've seen the high success rate that the FBI has had using the Publix assistance so uh we're all in this
00:43:37
together well we used to be in this together with you but this you know the garage and parts are known is you know
00:43:44
move up or move on so uh you'll be moving on it's been real well thanks for joining
00:43:52
us in the garage or for the last uh 131 episodes as of today all right well we need to wrap this one up yeah so how
00:44:01
about a little recommended reading here Captain yes sir this week we recommend who killed Bob Crane the final close-up
00:44:07
by John hook uh Bob Crane is best known for his performance as Colonel Robert Hogan on the old show the old CBS show
00:44:15
Hogan's Heroes uh the season the series aired from 1965 to 1971 but on the afternoon of June 29th 1978 uh Crane's
00:44:27
co-star Victoria Ann Berry entered his apartment after he failed to show up for a lunch meeting and discovered his dead
00:44:35
body now crane has been bludgeoned to death with a weapon that was never identified though investigators believed
00:44:42
it to be a camera tripod an electrical cord had been tied around his neck uh his murder remains unsolved there was an
00:44:51
arrest police arrested Crane's friend John Carpenter the two the two friends had a weird dark Obsession this was
00:44:58
videotaping women during sexual encounters Carpenter went to trial but was acquitted so now we're left asking
00:45:07
who killed Bob Crane was it Carpenter or was it someone else so check out this is
00:45:12
not John Carpenter the Halloween John not the famous John Carpenter this is just some hanger on that was friends
00:45:19
with Bob Crane yeah John Henry Carpenter yeah so check out who killed Bob Crane by John hook you can do that by going to
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