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around grab a chair grab a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] in 2009 on the University of Virginia
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campus we have a young woman Morgan Harrington who goes missing unfortunately her body is found 4 months
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later and then we continued our story yesterday telling you about another disappearance of a very similar
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situation with another young woman woman Hannah Graham who disappears on the same
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college campus 5 years later now we have police who compiled surveillance footage of all the
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businesses that they could find on campus that showed footage of Hannah Graham walking around on campus late
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that night intoxicated attempting to go back to her apartment they released segments of this
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surveillance footage to the public hoping for tips within days police learned after verifying a receipt that
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we discussed yesterday from an establishment called Tempo a bar called Tempo that a man Jesse Matthews who was
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spotted in the company of Hannah Graham at Tempo they learned from him using his
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credit card that th this is the man that is seen with Hannah Graham who is now missing in the surveillance footage of
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her walking around on campus and uh going into that bar what they get is when they reach out to the public the
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information that they get is this man is identified as Jesse Matthew Jr and we have a male witness who comes forward
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and says you know after the time that those two were spotted together using his credit card at
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Tempo I saw a guy that looks exact ly like that same dudee and her he's trying to get her into his
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vehicle which was described as a 1998 orange Chrysler Sebring yeah or orange piece of [ __ ] well this is interesting
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because when police run a background check on this Jesse Matthew Jr of course he owns an orange Sebring so that
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matches up got him now they have his name they want to go and talk to him so so after about a week of Hannah Graham
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missing they now have identified the man who's seen with her in the surveillance
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footage detectives go and knock on Old Jesse Matthews door on his apartment door he he initially refused to let the
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detectives inside and said he's stepping outside to talk to them they start they they start in right
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away we don't we don't have any time to lose here so they say hey do you know anything about Hannah Graham she's
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missing he admits that he had heard about a missing woman on the news then they ask him had he talked to Hannah at
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Tempo at the downtown mall on the night of her disappearance right he said he was really drunk that night and he
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didn't remember talking to Hannah Graham he didn't really remember talking to anybody he said he remembered being
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downtown but did not remember talking to her when they said Hannah had been missing for 7 days and they believed he
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had some information he said he was going to go get some socks so he goes inside shuts the door I guess he's going
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to go get his interrogation socks on and then after a few minutes he comes back he comes back out and he does allow
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the detectives to do a cursory walkth through of his apartment this he he's just simply
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showing them like look the person you're asking me about I don't remember talking
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to her and you can come inside cuz she's not here so they do a quick look around
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now this is where this is the moment where they turn this dude upside down right detectives
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tell Jesse Matthew that you know what we've already got a search warrant for your
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vehicle so we need to know a couple things here man we know you were with her that night
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that's how we got this search warrant for your vehicle right so did you leave with her did she leave with you and was
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she in your car that night or at any time Jesse Matthews response was um he's trying to come up with an answer
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and then the detectives cut in real quick and say look we need to know if she was in your vehicle because we're
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going to find that out we have the search warrant we'd rather hear it from you we're giving you a chance for you to
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tell us what you know well the first question if your law enforcement is do you know who this individual is MHM if
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they deny it and you have proof that they do know this individual and that's a sign of guilt so but they but law
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enforcement plays this so smart because if he's able to get through the first question well I was so drunk I don't I
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don't know if I talked to her not then you go well we have eyewitness that puts her in your car
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so was she ever in your car and if he answers no you know he's lying right a good a good interrogator will ask
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questions that they already know the answers to right this is to size you up to gauge your how Cooperative you are
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going to be in the investigation also to gauge if you're honest or a dishonest person and if they should believe
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anything else that you're going to be telling them MH so he wants to know Matthew wants to know if he's under
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arrest and the detectives say no that he was not and so the the detectives are waiting there they're going to have the
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vehicle impounded and so they're waiting for the the tow to show up to impound this
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vehicle so they can do a a thorough search for forensic evidence and such on this vehicle and during this time he's
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kind of going in and out of the apartment kind of keeping an eye on what they're doing at some point you know he
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does remind them look I have no information about a missing young woman he is refusing to provide his cell phone
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number to detectives but then before the vehicle can be taken away he says hey my
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passports in the glove box can I get this passport before the vehicle's towed away that's weird well yeah you don't
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want to give that passport to a guy who is now your Prime Suspect than a missing
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person's case so they tell him no and then things get uh get a little little different here right his vehicle was
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towed away to be processed by the police and his roommate drove him to his mom's
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house on the ride Jesse Matthew watched the video released to the public by the police this is of the surveillance
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footage from s showing him with Hannah Graham later that day he withdrew all of his money from his bank account all
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kinds of signs that this dude wants to run on Saturday September 20th Jesse Matthew called a detective at the
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Charlottesville Police Department he agreed to come in and talk to the detective and he showed up at the
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station around 3 close to 400 p.m. that day or said that he would be there when he does show up Captain he he
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pretty much refuses to talk right uh so yeah I'll go in and talk to you guys but
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then he gets there and has nothing to say he leaves the police station and of course now he's tailed by the FBI those
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guys are real dick weed because they are they're aware that he may want to run they're aware that he
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has answers that he's not providing to them about this situation and their missing person and then on top of that
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the FBI is making it obvious to him and I think this is I think this is a maneuver
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that you want to make it obvious to this dude we're watching you that way if he were to slip away
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briefly or whatever that he that that maybe he goes I can't run they're watching me so they they make it obvious
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that they're following him well he can't run too far cuz at 910 that night cuz he's 270 two reckless driving warrants
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are issued for Jesse Matthew they obviously observed him driving recklessly while tailing
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him meanwhile he decided to borrow or ask to borrow his sister's car and at some point he slips they slip up
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because he's able to flee using this other vehicle well let's just go back to him not telling the
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truth I mean and keeping your mouth shut if you know that you're going to be not
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telling the truth then you're going to have to whatever lies you tell you're going to have to keep keep up with those
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lies that's exactly right and once he goes on the lamb and they can't find him this is
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when they get permission to arrest him and file charges against him so now we have what's going to turn into a
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nationwide manhunt for Jesse Matthew junr an APB is issued and he is officially charged on September 23rd
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with abduction with the intent to defile Heather Graham who had still not yet been found this is because of the
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results of the crime scene texts processing Matthew's vehicle here's what happened a blood hound used by the
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police detected Hanah scent got him on the car's interior passenger door got him an Evidence swab recovered from the
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interior passenger side door frame of Matthew's car near the door latch was examined at the Virginia Commonwealth of
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Virg Virginia Department of forensic science a DNA profile was obtained from this swap Hannah could not be eliminated
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as a contributor to that DNA profile they could not 100% confirm that it was her
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DNA but what we have here Captain is quote the probability of someone other than Hannah being a contributor to this
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DNA profile is one and greater than 7.2 billion Jesus which I I don't know why they
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can't just say that's Hannah's DNA I I I'm guessing that there has to be a certain number of markers I don't want
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to get too much into the science of it right because I'm not Bill NY the Science Guy um but but here here's my
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calculation Steve huh 7.2 billion one and greater than 7.2 billion there's not even that many people on the
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planet so unless there 's a a few billion people that are hiding somewhere uh that has to be Hannah Graham's DNA so
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meanwhile what we will later find out is that Jesse Matthew headed for the Border
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there are indications that he was heading to Mexico Taco Bell now he checked into the Village Creek State
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Park using a false name of John car and an address uh in Maryland a road atlas was found found in his sister's
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vehicle marking several locations showing his travel trajectory for Golf Coast Towns close to the Mexican border
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eventually he's nabbed in Galveston Texas lot of pretty women there so I I have to go to this story that came from
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Channel 6 CBS out of Richmond go for it Bill NY thank you on September 24th Karen monk took her dog Hurley for a
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walk on on the beach in galston this this is a beautiful area uh Texas beaches and she is a regular this is
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part of her regular routine to take her dog for a walk watch the ocean take in the fresh air MH so she's chilling out
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at the beach and mind you there's an APB out for Jesse Leroy Matthew Jr Nationwide his picture and description
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and what they suspect him of is on the news just about everywhere we already described his height and weight he's 6'2
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270 lbs approximately 32y old black male and he's distinctive right he's he's got some distinguishing
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characteristics one his size and two he's got uh dreadlocks and and a and a short beard so he's going to stand out
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from just another face in the crowd and while she's there she's feels somebody looking at her and when she looks over
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she's like my God I think that's the the person that they said they're looking for on the
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news and so she she does second guess herself freak you out but she says there was something terrifying about the way
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he was looking at her that that he briefly left he was in a vehicle he briefly leaves and then he comes back and then
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that's when she made up made it up in her mind for certain this I'm pretty sure this is the guy that they're
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looking for I'm not going to get into a whole lot of uh of this messy stuff here because th
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this is pretty upsetting they're looking for this guy nationwide manhunt and don't don't anybody make any
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jokes out there any dumb jokes her name is Karen she calls this into Crim Stoppers Crim Stoppers they don't
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believe her they're like we don't know if we got enough to go on here that this is the guy that
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they're actually looking for so her you see something say something well she's saying something and it's fallen on deaf
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ears yeah I love when when people just want to be lazy with their job she calls this into Crim Stoppers and from my
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understanding she called crimes Stoppers more than once and finally she's like I'm getting
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nowhere with this so she calls the galvaston County Sheriff's Office and she's like look I really believe this is
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the guy that they're looking for could you at least send somebody out here to interview me or to interview him
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if he's if he's even still going to be here when you get here because I've been trying to call people well he's on the
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Run yes yeah meaning we don't think he'll stay in the same place for very long if it is in fact Jesse Matthew and
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the look the Galveston County Sheriff's Office they did their job much better than the people over at Crimestoppers on
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that day because they send out some police officers and they question the man that that she says look I think
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that's the guy that they're looking for of course he lies about where he's from and gives a false name but very quickly
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they realized this is the guy this this woman thank God she called thank God she
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went to the extra effort when she was turned away the first second third time well that's a caring for you because
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this guy is this guy is a menace to society yeah he's the number one suspect in Hannah Graham's
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disappearance and he's on the run and so he's taken into custody he spends about
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41 hours in a holding cell and then he shipped off to Virginia to where he's going to have to talk to the detectives
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there the ones that know this case and they're sitting there at the station going got him got him well while this is
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all going down the detectives back in Virginia they are able to obtain a second search warrant for Matthew's
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apartment and his uh room where he went and stayed at his mother's house from time to time investigators found a box
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of Hospital gloves and Hospital Gra antiseptic wipes in his room at his mother's house
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now it's possible that maybe he's just freaky crazy clean about his taxi cab we should also mention though he did work
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for a period of time as an orderly uh so this could these could be items from that job but these also could
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be evidence and items that one would use to cover up a crime well you're telling
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me something earlier that was really fascinating is is not only did the scent dogs pick up her scent in his vehicle
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but they also uh picked up her scent in his apartment yeah this they found uh according to the the blood hounds and
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the handlers the they detected Han Ascent on the threshold of his apartment uh in the foyer area of the
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apartment and the entry door now what's interesting here too and kind of paints a very dark picture m is that the
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Handler is telling law enforcement I'm guessing here based off of what the dog is trying to tell me and
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the way that the dog is hitting on on these on these markers that while she was here and did
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enter this apartment she likely was not walking she was very likely carried into the
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apartment how do they know that youd have to ask the dog but that's not the only evidence that they're going to find
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in the apartment correct so when they do a search of the apartment they find some
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shorts and from my understanding that they're going to attempt to pull some DNA evidence from this pair of shorts
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that's found in Matthew's bedroom mhm and on the shorts they find a mixture profile of DNA so two DNA profiles mixed
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further testing is going to tell us one Jesse Matthew could not be eliminated as
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the major contributor to the DNA mixture and two Hannah Graham could not be eliminated as a minor contributor to
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the DNA mixture and again we're going to see similar numbers here the same numbers Captain the probability of
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someone other than Hannah being a minor contributor to the mixture profile was one in greater than
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7.2 billion in other words that's her DNA on this pair of shorts found in his bedroom and he's
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claiming he didn't go anywhere with her he didn't he didn't give her a ride she didn't leave with him I don't remember
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talking to her well none of that's adding up based off of the evidence that we are finding let's compile this with
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some other interesting more circumstantial but interesting evidence that many of the people that knew Jesse
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Matthew told police and investigators that they thought he was behaving strangely the day after Hannah
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disappeared and that he had some injuries that he had like a swollen jaw uh he he it appeared that that he was in
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some kind of fight mhm and that he didn't leave his apartment and did not respond to calls
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or texts over the next day or so and this guy regularly goes out he's usually out and about he's kind of
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shutting down for a couple of days after she goes missing now one problem though
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that investigators are going to have in this case we talk so much about the evidence against this guy is that they
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don't have any cell phone evidence connecting the suspect Jesse Matthew to Hannah Graham and the problem being
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is that police are saying that that we don't know if if if phone was off from 12:30 a.m. and on uh
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or in airplane mode or if this was just some kind of strange coincidence technological glitch but they they
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couldn't put what what they often try to do today is put the two cell phones together the suspect in the victim
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phones together being in the same locations at the same time they could not seem to do that
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here now what we're going to have here is they arrest as said Jesse Matthew he's
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sitting in jail and he's charged with the Abduction of Hannah Graham but Hannah Graham at this time is still
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missing but shortly after this Captain things will start to move very [Music] fast
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because while he's locked up and they continuing to try to find hanogram trying to get more evidence against
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Jesse Matthew in The hanogram Disappearance now they're going to confront him with a whole new storm and
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that storm is going to be guess what we now suspect you in the abduction and murder of Morgan Harrington that took
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place in 2009 and how do they come to this conclusion they're putting together evidence because one we have very
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similar situations that took place similar victims yes they're 5 years apart but
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this all goes down in the same area investigated by the same detectives the same
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jurisdiction and so it wasn't that great of a leap they start looking for ways to
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try to connect Morgan Harrington to Jesse Matthew or Jesse Matthew to Morgan Harrington and what they figure out is
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that Matthew drove for Access Taxi at the time of Morgan Harrington's Disappearance in
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2009 well they're going to get a search warrant for Jesse Matthews cell phone that he was using at that time yeah he
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had a Nexel device back in 2009 they get the search warrant records are showing who he was talking to the night of
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Morgan Harrington's disappearance and guess what they tracked down they were able to identify four people who say
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that yeah I I took a cab that night I took a cab to the Metallica concert the same night that Morgan went to the
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Metallica concert and then disappeared and they are telling the officers and detectives that the the man
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that drove me this is his description yeah let's just remind the listeners where did we find her her
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purse in the parking lot of where the taxi cabs would gather furthermore the records of of his
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phone show that Matthew was in Charlottesville that night as those Witnesses had said and suggested and
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pretty much he was consistently and constantly on his phone that night of October 17 2009 but around 9:30 p.m.
00:31:19
there is approximately 90 minutes of complete inactivity remember this is matching up
00:31:27
up with the last sighting around the same time that this young woman Morgan Harrington was last
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seen he's on his phone constantly up to this point and now almost no activity complete inactivity for 90 minutes and
00:31:45
again Morgan she made a custom panta shirt to go to the Metallica concert they were able to find that shirt there
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was some blood evidence on it so now there going to test that blood evidence against Jesse's blood yeah remember we
00:32:03
have that DNA that that we go okay well this matches up with somebody in codus who committed another crime four years
00:32:11
prior to The Disappearance of Morgan Harrington but that crime was not solved the suspect in that case was not
00:32:18
identified and therefore we have this database that is telling us that these two crimes were committed by the same
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person that his DNA is telling us that he very likely killed Morgan Harrington but we don't
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know who that person is so now we have this guy locked up in our custody Who We Believe should be the suspect in Morgan
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Harrington's case because we have evidence to suggest that and we suspect him in The Disappearance of Hannah
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Graham so they test his DNA and find out that boom it does match from the 2009 disappearance of
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Morgan Harrington and the crime the which was a sexual assault attack that took place four years prior to that well
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basically this uh chicken is cooked right I mean they they have evidence in Hannah's case against him they got
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evidence in Morgan's case against him so at this point he needs to get a lawyer yeah he gets a defense attorney and the
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attorney is going to I mean very correctly try to get ahead out ahead of these charges so we're
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offering an asking for a plea deal in these cases and what the attorney wants on Matthew's behalf is
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that Jesse Matthew will admit to murdering Morgan Harrington and Hannah Graham and tell the police where they
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can find Hannah's remains in exchange what they want is that Jesse Matthew aged 32 will get 25 years in prison with
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the possibility of parole meaning he won't spend the rest of his life in prison and at 32 if he ends up getting
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parole before the 25 years is up he's not going to be an extremely old man by that time and what we have here
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is the families get together with the prosecutor with the district attorney and they are discussing do we take this
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plea deal because he does have something to offer he does have and I hate to call
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it this leverage he has some leverage Heather Graham's family wants to find their daughter of course and so
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he very likely and as indicated by his defense can provide them with that location and that answer now the
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families did something very smart here and they decide that you know what we're going to sleep on it we don't
00:35:04
have to make any decisions right now this dude is locked up he he's waiting he's going to be charged with Morgan
00:35:12
Harrington's murder if he doesn't plea we don't have to make a decision right here and now we're not going to
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let him steer this ship and so they decide to sit on it and in the coming days what's going to
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happen here Captain is we now have Hannah Graham who's been missing for about a month and her Remains the
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location of her remains are being used as a bargaining chip by Jesse Matthew but on October 18th
00:35:45
2014 according to a statement of the facts quote a search and rescue team located Hannah's remains near 3193 Old
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Lynchberg Road in a densely wooded Ravine behind a vacant home almost all of Hannah's skeleton was recovered in
00:36:04
that area so she is found I mean if we already know these cases are connected but let's say you
00:36:12
didn't have any evidence against him in the Morgan Harrington right case uh but we can all agree that the The
00:36:20
Disappearance the circumstances of The Disappearance are so similar they're almost identical
00:36:27
the victimology very very similar almost identical well Hannah Graham's remains are found within 5 and a half miles of
00:36:37
where Morgan Harrington's remains were located years prior so evidence against Jesse Matthews connects him to the to
00:36:47
Morgan's disappearance and murder and to Hannah's disappearance and murder and the way that they were murdered is very
00:36:55
similar as well yeah so we have a pathologist who's going to conduct the autopsy on Hannah
00:37:02
uh and determine that this was the same as in Morgan Harrington's case the same doctor Dr Kevin
00:37:11
wayy at the office of the chief medical examiner in Richmond now Dr Way's conclusion was that Hannah's cause of
00:37:19
death was homicidal violence of undetermined nature and again the manner of death was homicide the forensic
00:37:27
anthropologist Dr Elaine Pope studied Hannah's skull and determined that her left nasal bone had been broken
00:37:35
additional study of The Remains by two forensic anthropologists at Radford University concluded that Hannah had two
00:37:44
nasal fractures that were consistent premortem fractures occurring at or near the time of death this led the
00:37:55
doctor to believe that the most likely cause of death was Suffocation now remember they could not figure out the
00:38:02
or narrow down the exact cause of death in Morgan Harrington's case but think of
00:38:10
the similarities there we're talking about broken bones that the breaking of those bones
00:38:17
taking place at or near the time of death right after finding the remains of course now the families
00:38:27
who did not have to make a decision earlier they're saying you know what boom We reject your plea deal right
00:38:35
we're we're we're not on board with this anymore and what's going to happen is that he's going to be charged with both
00:38:41
of these murders uh the charges will be upgraded to capital murder and he's indicted for both murder and kidnapping
00:38:50
of both of these victims so we know Jesse is responsible for Hannah's murder Mur we know he's responsible for
00:38:58
Morgan's murder and we know that there was a prior crime it was a sexual assault that that victim is still alive
00:39:07
she can easily identify him I don't know if we see the totality of of all of his
00:39:13
crimes but he's definitely he's definitely a serial killer not only that you go back to the the earliest of the
00:39:22
crimes where we have the Survivor right who's to say that he didn't intend to kill her right or if things didn't go
00:39:30
his way that she would have survived because we know that what what happened in that
00:39:37
situation is that a passer by saw what was going on and interrupted the attack and that may be the only reason
00:39:48
why she survived the scary thing here to me Captain is we got this this sexual assault that
00:39:55
I believe would have resulted in Murder had someone not stepped in had she not been able to get away right we have the
00:40:02
murder the kidnapping an attack that takes place in 2009 and then in 2014 again and the sexual assault that takes
00:40:11
place before the murder in 2009 is four years prior to that 2005 so we got nine years of this kind of very violent
00:40:21
behavior of where this guy is abducting women off of the streets and think about that too he's also
00:40:29
working as a taxi cab driver putting himself in a position to take advantage of vulnerable women
00:40:36
and that was probably by Design exactly that's what makes me wonder about the shirt that was found on
00:40:45
displayed the pan the custom panta shirt that was found displayed on the bushes you have to wonder was this some kind of
00:40:53
psychological move maybe he had had that shirt in his possession maybe he was following the news of missing Morgan
00:41:02
Harrington and the News starts to die down and he wants to see his crime back in the news again and so
00:41:09
he goes and puts this evidence out there and puts it on display where it would be
00:41:14
found putting that whole case and that whole crime back in the news again without her still being found at that
00:41:21
time what is what's crazy here too and and this is you know goodby the families um this would be very very
00:41:31
difficult thing for anyone to do but we know that he's now being charged with four
00:41:38
counts two of murder two of kidnapping in the Harrington and Graham cases and the families get together and
00:41:45
they say look he was looking for a plea deal earlier and now we have the leverage on
00:41:51
this guy but we don't want to go through a whole death penalty trial even though we got this guy dead to
00:42:04
rights and so they agree that look if if he's willing to plead guilty will cut a deal with him that
00:42:13
will spare him the death penalty however they've put they put language in that deal that
00:42:22
will guarantee he will be locked up for life he cannot get out he cannot be paroled he cannot get geriatric parole
00:42:30
even when he's very old and elderly even sickly um so they put language in there
00:42:36
that hey if you agree to this he's going to be locked up forever and this is one of those kind of
00:42:43
guys that look how dangerous he is if this guy is breathing he is dangerous yeah
00:42:51
piece of [ __ ] he he is there he I believe he was out there regularly looking for victims and one thing that
00:42:59
haunts me a little bit too is the Karen lady that turned him in that says oh out
00:43:04
in Galviston Texas spots him calls it into Crim Stoppers and eventually the Galviston Sheriff come out there they
00:43:12
arrest Jesse Matthew she said that she spotted him he left and then returned in his car and
00:43:19
was staring at her we know he was trying to flee and it and very likely trying to
00:43:25
get across the border into Mexico to flee the police was he looking for one last victim before he he crossed over
00:43:34
had he gone into Mexico how many women would he have attempted to kidnap and violate one of the good things for law
00:43:42
enforcement and good thing for the victim's families is they have his DNA so they're able to then test that
00:43:48
against other crimes where they have DNA but they just don't have they just don't
00:43:54
have a suspect but makes you wonder how much law enforcement went back and started looking at this guy's known
00:44:01
whereabouts where he is working is there other missing females in this area that he
00:44:08
might be responsible for yeah and Jesse Matthew agrees to this this plea agreement it was agreed
00:44:15
to and sentencing was pronounced uh it was determined that Matthew will serve four consecutive life
00:44:25
sentences he relinquishes All rights to appeal so he cannot appeal this uh is not eligible for parole of any kind at
00:44:35
all as we already talked about or any type of conditional release and the added caveat that the
00:44:44
state could reinstate the capital murder charge if Matthew violates this plea agreement meaning they could put the
00:44:51
death penalty back on the on the table if anything goes arai now at sentencing Hannah's Father John Graham spoke and
00:45:02
this is from the post he described his daughter as an optimistic person who loved studying at the University of
00:45:09
Virginia and was making plans for the future when her life was mercilessly cut short by
00:45:16
Matthew quote his evil depraved the world of a great talent but Hannah's enduring gift to us all is that she
00:45:26
enabled this wicked man to be apprehended and convicted she did change the world he said but at a terrible
00:45:37
price Sue Graham also spoke she credited her daughter for her heroism she enabled
00:45:43
police to apprehend a serial rapist who had been hiding in plain sight in Charlottesville for years Jesse Matthews
00:45:51
showed no emotion during the sentencing at his trial yeah and here's the situation too like like I pointed out
00:46:00
you have to wonder if there's other victims here we do know that at one point that before Jesse Matthew was
00:46:07
apprehended before he was connected to the the murders of these two young women that there was suspicion because of
00:46:16
disappearances of other young women in and around this area between 2003 and afterward that there was
00:46:27
suspicion that there was a serial killer possible serial killer in the area and we do know that that came to be true
00:46:34
right because we have Jesse Matthew who killed two of the victims during that time period oddly enough there was
00:46:43
another man who was maybe equally as nasty as Jesse Matthew his name is Randy Taylor he was charged with the murder of
00:46:54
a 19-year-old around the same time and is a strong suspect in one of the other open and unsolved cases of a missing
00:47:03
young woman th it's a very strange situation here Captain because this may indicate that we have two active serial
00:47:11
killers operating in the same area greater area at about the same time which is not completely unheard of but
00:47:21
it's very it's very unlikely it's very rare um the weird thing too with with Matthew is
00:47:32
he he had opportunities in his life we talked about his size this guy was a star athlete in high school and even
00:47:40
received a scholarship to play football at Liberty and it was we don't know when
00:47:47
all of his crimes started or all of his bad behavior started but he sent off the prison to
00:47:55
serve what is ultimately going to be a life sentence four consecutive life sentences
00:48:00
no doubt so at the age of 32 in his early 30s you would think that he's going to
00:48:08
be there long for a long period of time that he's sent off to prison and that he
00:48:14
will die there yeah but the thing is he may die there sooner than any of us would have
00:48:20
expected this is because in 2019 it was announced that Jesse Leroy Matthew Jr had been transferred from the supermax
00:48:30
Red Onion prison to Sussex I State Prison in Waverly Virginia it was later revealed in December of 2020 that Jesse
00:48:41
was no longer being held at that prison either but had become an an impatient at
00:48:48
Richmond hospital he was suffering from stage 4 colon cancer now there have been very little updates
00:48:58
as to his situation his his ailment uh last I could find that there's no there's no mention or
00:49:10
announcement of his death and last I could find was that he was continuing treatment for cancer in
00:49:19
2001 late in 2001 since the sentence and sending this monster off to life in prison the
00:49:30
monster that killed their daughter the harringtons Morgan's parents have become advocates for the protection of women
00:49:39
from predators Like Jesse Matthew they funded a scholarship at Virginia Tech in Morgan's name and named a school in
00:49:47
Africa after her they also funded and operate a nonprofit safety advocacy program called help save the next girl
00:49:57
at the University of Virginia Hannah Graham's friends and family have endowed scholarships and a memorial softball
00:50:06
tournament named after her but of course in the end it's not enough but I guess that that's all they
00:50:20
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