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[Music] thank you foreign is another interesting scandalous dirty deed conducted by Alec Murdock
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at the hospital with cops looking into speaking to all of the kids Alec recommended to Connor Cook's family to
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hire a one Corey Fleming as an attorney to represent Connor according to the cooks Alec neglected to mention that the
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attorney that he is telling them to use Corey Fleming was Paul Murdoch's Godfather and Alec Murdoch's college
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roommate and close friend if not his best of friends yeah besties the alleged idea is that Alec Murdoch deliberately
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hooked Conor up with Corey Fleming so that Fleming could ensure that Connor not Paul was seen as the driver of the
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boat on that fateful night in 2021 attorneys representing Connor and Connor Cook versus South Carolina
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Department of Natural Resources filed for pre-civil suit Discovery requesting depositions of a number of Law
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Enforcement Officers these were necessary because the court filings allege there was a conspiracy to cover
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up Paul's involvement in the crash and pin it on Connor the petition adds that these deponents may have information
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regarding a conspiracy to misdirect the criminal investigation away from Paul Murdoch and wrongfully shift the focus
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to Conor the law enforcement officers mentioned in this petition are Michael Brock Austin Pritcher who we talked
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about quite a bit in episode one John Leroy Keener III Robin Camlin and Troy Andrew crafe the
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petition adds that the petitioner is informed and believes that certain evidence gathered at the scene and
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thereafter is now unable to be accounted for by law enforcement authorities and that opponents will be questioned about
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the failure to conduct an appropriate investigation including the failure to administer field exercises to Paul
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Murdoch in other words the lawsuit alleges Alec Murdoch set Connor Cook up with Fleming who told him not to talk to
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the investigators as part of a campaign to ensure he was wrongly identified as the driver of the boat yeah it's sad
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they also allege that the officers failed to collect Paul's phone and failed to give field sobriety test at
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the scene only after Conor fired Corey Fleming and obtained new attorneys and spoke to prosecutors was Paul Murdoch
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charged well that's interesting he has to change his lawyer shift his lawyers before we even see charges brought
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against Paul Murdoch Connor was told by Alec Murdoch and Corey Fleming to keep his mouth shut
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part of an orchestrated campaign to hold Conor both civilly and criminally responsible for the incident per
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Newsweek Alec Murdoch approached cook in the hallway of the hospital as he was heading to get his jaw X-rayed and told
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him everything would be all right and he would keep his mouth shut no pun intended Connor said he was intimidated
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by the Murdoch's and was deliberately vague about who was driving until he realized that he was the intended
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scapegoat a civil conspiracy among five Law Enforcement Officers resulting in knowing attempts to interfere with the
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investigation the five officers have information as to a campaign to Cloud the investigatory issues and disseminate
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false information in the community with the intention of misleading law enforcement and prosecution charging
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parties and the public look into wrongly and falsely believing Connor Cook should
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be arrested and charged as the boat operator all right this is a lot to unpack and I'm trying to follow you
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we have this it's hard to even call it an accident because I think Paul was driving maliciously he
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was drunk and I think acting completely irresponsible please show up at the scene they don't do a sobriety
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check on Paul people are making statements multiple people in the boat stating that Paul was drunk stating he
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was driving crazy stating that Paul was driving and now once they get to the hospital it seems like Alex the head of
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the Murdoch family is now trying to shift the narrative away from his son and put the blame onto Conor which is
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the one that made the 9-1-1 call but what you just stated there and if I'm following you correctly is
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that there was five law enforcement officers that were involved in trying to turn this whole plot against Paul into a
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plot against Conor yes that's what the lawsuit alleges now as far as the law enforcement officers and their quote
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unquote involvement to me it looks more like they chose to sit on their hands and do nothing right and then things got
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got wonky afterwards and of course someone has to be operating the boat now we know that Alec Murdock is going to
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try to shift this into Connor was operating the boat because of statements that come from the passengers where you
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know Paul was driving but Conor had to save them from smashing into something when they were going the
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wrong way he you know had to grab the wheel and and jerk the wheel so they wouldn't smash into something right and
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then at another time when Paul decides to leave the wheel go up to the front of the boat and smack his girlfriend and
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spit on her and call her names somebody had to step in and grab the wheel then too and that was Conor again so Connor
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becomes the likely scapegoat of oh well we can take this situation make it a little confusing and maybe we throw it
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in a blender and hit the hit the button a few times and now when we when we pull
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it out and take off the lid it looks like Connor was the driver the thing too is again somebody has to be held
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responsible for operating the boat we know that somebody was operating the boat and I I really like that you and
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everybody else out there picked up on this because this is something that was interesting to me
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it wasn't a question about if there was somebody that was drunk driving that night that seemed pretty obvious but the
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more that I dove into this situation and the written statements of the passengers
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on the boat that night it was clear to me that Not only was Paul drunk driving but he's also like crazy driving like oh
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yeah oh you tell me I can't drive my boat you know I somebody else is going to drive the boat and he's just driving
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like a maniac very Reckless Behavior on top of what was already Reckless Behavior of the drunk driving well he's
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acting as if he has no concern for others period and he should be arrested for being abusive towards his girlfriend
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and spitting on her that's assault well Connor Cook's lawsuit which was filed on
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September 20th of 2021 named defendants and the named defendants are Alec and Buster Murdoch Parker's 55 Incorporated
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that's the convenience store where the alcohol was illegally purchased and Parker's employee the Parker's
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employee who rang up Paul Murdoch's purchase of booze the lawsuit alleges that buster
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Murdoch gave his teenage brother Paul his driver's license so that Paul could buy alcohol
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the driver's license along with a third party credit card used should have alerted the Parker employee
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that this is probably an illegal sale so the credit card reportedly belonged to Maggie right so they're saying this
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should have tipped off the employee you're getting an ID that has one person's name on it and a credit card
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that has somebody else's name on it right neither belonging to Paul Murdoch the suit goes on to allege that Paul
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Murdoch was drinking all day long and should have been stopped from driving the boat by the boats registered owner
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which is his father Alec Murdock it maintains the Alec Murdoch knew Paul was a habitual Drinker yeah but his father's
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not going to be a father as much as we dislike Alec Murdock it's it's difficult to say that he's not intelligent he's
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just a shitty person he should be able to see the the writing on the wall here his son is a problem and continues to be
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a problem leading up to this horrible tragedy of the boat crash seems like this family is so greedy
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and they probably spend a lot of their time focusing on trying to build wealth that they don't spend time on trying to
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build character within their sons they're spending too much time covering up their real character to build any
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character running process so that's one lawsuit captain now Connor Cook wasn't the only one to sue before Connor sued
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Mallory Beach's mom Renee filed a wrongful death lawsuit back in March of 2019. just one month after the boat
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crash now the initial complaint named a whole slew of defendants and a lot of these are the same that were in the
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other lawsuits so again we have Gregory Parker Incorporated which is AKA The Parkers Corporation this is the the
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convenience store where the kids bought their booze they also are suing the bar where the underage kids Connor and Paul
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drank the shots they're suing the wood the woods family who hosted the oyster bake at their home and again that's why
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we say it's up for the debate on whether the adults at this party knew that kids
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were there drinking right goes on to sue Alec Murdock as well as Buster Murdoch Jr
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and Randolph Murdoch the grandfather basically the suit alleges that Parkers and the bar should not have served the
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kids who were underage that the woods knew about and should not have allowed underage drinking at their home and
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their party and that Alec knew about and should not have allowed drinking on his
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boat and that Randolph knew about and should not have allowed drinking on the island he's the property owner and that
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buster the brother knew about and should not have allowed Paul to use his ID to purchase alcohol illegally the lawsuit
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maintains that all of these events contributed to the boat crash and the wrongful death was one thing for
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the parents not to have seen the kids drinking when Paul's friends are saying that he's acting erratic you would think
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that these parents would have noticed at least his actions maybe not noticed him
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drinking but noticed that he was visibly drunk well and there's conflicting statements from people that were at that
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party some saying that it was well known that kids were there drinking underage and others saying nope nobody underage
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was drinking here at all right but again we we already have evidence that Paul's
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father is trying to cover his tracks so I would say the the parents that are saying oh we didn't see anybody drinking
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that's Paul's father getting to them and covering his tracks well I have a hard time believing it's not impossible but I
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have a hard time believing that if they weren't drinking at the party that Paul Murdoch was able to get three times over
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the legal limit in about an hour and a half right that's some that's some serious binge drinking if that's what in
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fact happened here now what's interesting though Captain is notice who was not mentioned in the lawsuit and
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that's Paul Murdoch who was dry driving the boat that night and my guess is it's because you don't sue people that
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don't have any money right and so him being the youngest person on there and not a corporation his name seems to be
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absent from that lawsuit now after this suit was filed Alec Murdock resisted turning over financial documents you
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know you you have to turn over these financial documents because of course scumbag they're entitled to know what
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means he had of paying off any jury award or settlement money in this civil case
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so the walls are closing in on Alec Murdock and his family he and Maggie sold one of their homes in May of 2020
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so it looks like from the outside looking in here Captain it looks to me like things aren't great for them
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financially at this point well it seemed at some point in this lawsuit that there
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might have been some negotiations to settle this but at some point that ended yeah and then there's also Paul's
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criminal trial right for killing Mallory and of course Cove had caused major delays so as of June 2021 Paul was still
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awaiting a trial date to be set he was facing 25 years in prison but for now he was out and about and living his normal
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life and he's 22 years old at this point he had completed his junior year at the
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University of South Carolina and was home for the summer when all hell broke loose I just want to
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reiterate that Mallory Beach is not back in college that she's not back to her regular life on June 7 2020
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at 1007 PM Alec Murdock called 9-1-1 we tried to clean up the audio of this car as much as we could the dispatcher's
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voice is very harsh so you might want to turn down your volume just a little bit
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during this call where's your emergency okay you said 41 47 mobile Road and Allison
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you said 4147 Moselle Road in Arlington yes sir 41.45 Roselle Road yes sir stay on the line with me okay
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hello I'm still here stay on the line I'm still here okay Collison I have an Alex Murdock on the
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line call us from 4147 Moselle Road he's advising that his wife and child was shot Mr Murdock go ahead and talk to
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Coliseum [Music] who is 41-47 Moselle Road I've been up to it now it's fast Communications
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I have an Alex Murdock on the line call us from 4147 Moselle Road he's advising that his wife and child was shot okay
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and Sir give me the address again what is 41.47 Moselle Road I've been up to it now it's bad okay
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okay and are they breathing no ma'am okay and you said it's your wife and your son
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my wife and my son are they in a vehicle no ma'am they're on the ground out of my
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kennels okay did you see anyone okay is he breathing at all no no one is she okay do you see
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anything do you see anyone in the area Snowman oh Ma'am what color is your house on the
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outside what color is your house on the outside uh it's what you can't see it from the
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road okay is it a house or a mobile home it's a house okay and what is your name
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my name is Alex Murdock okay did you hear anything or did you come home and find them I've been gone I
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just came back supposed to be at your house no ma'am [Applause] [Music] please hurry we're getting somebody out
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there to you [Music] well oh whatever okay what is her name [Music] Maggie and Paul
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Maggie is her name yes ma'am okay and please hurry we're getting somebody out there too me asking you these
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questions don't slow them down okay and you sure they're not breathing is he moving at all your son I know you
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said that she was shot but what about your son nobody's they're not everyone always
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moving [Applause] what is your telephone number [Applause] and does anything look out of place
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[Applause] command I not not particularly really no ma'am okay okay [Applause] all right I'm going back down there
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anyway s oh they close ma'am yeah they're they've been around with you ever since you've
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got on the phone with me I have multiple people coming out there to you [Music] [Music]
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huh okay can you do me a favor Mr Murdock and turn on the flashers on your car so
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that way they can see where the kennels are you do you have your flashers on for me
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Mr Murdock yeah okay I don't want you to touch them at all okay I don't I don't know if you've
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already touched them and I don't I don't want you to touch them just in case they
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can get any kind of evidence okay I I already touched and trying to get a um to see if they were breathing
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[Music] okay well I just don't want you to move anything just in case they can get any
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kind of evidence okay [Applause] oh no no yeah [Applause] ma'am I'm gonna call I I need to call
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some of my family okay well do me a favor for me whenever you see the officer or the Medics because
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they're they're all coming to you absolutely okay but we have them come in turn on the flashes on your vehicle so
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they can see you okay you got the flashers on for me I do okay all right whenever you see them
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okay how old is your son 22. okay all right we're getting them out there to you okay and I will listen
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if you thought all right [Music] foreign [Music] we are back cheers mates I'm back he's
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back we're all back cheers to the people in the front and on the sides and the back as you heard we can hear a
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distraught sounding Alec Murdock he's gasping trying to tell the 911 dispatcher that he needs police and
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ambulance immediately his wife and child have been shot badly please hurry I'm not going to go through the entire
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call there but some key points there he States out that that neither of them are
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breathing when he found them and the dispatcher asked him not to touch the bodies he says I've already touched them
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to see if they were breathing he distinctively says that he just got back that he was previously gone yes so the
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call lasts about six and a half minutes and the Sheriff's Office was dispatched immediately they arrive about 20 minutes
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later they called in sled at 10 28 and Agents from sled arrive on scene at 11 47. for context the shootings happened
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at the Murdoch's very remote hunting lodge a home that they called mostly that sat on
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1770 private acres in Arlington now Arlington is a rural small town about 65 miles west of Charleston and the
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Murdoch's estate was outside of town now one thing that I thought was very smart
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of emergency Personnel the dispatcher there telling Alec hey turn on the flashers or the blinkers on your car so
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that when emergency Personnel arrive on scene they know where you are because if
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anybody's googled this property or seen video of it there's aerial video footage
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of this property it's it's large and it's in the center of it it's rather open and you can see that there could be
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multiple buildings or anywhere outside that the two victims could be when Personnel is arriving on the scene and
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of course even though Alec Murdoch says hey they're not breathing we want to get
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to them as fast as we can and try to save lives so I thought it was very smart of the dispatcher to recommend
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putting on the flashers well and they also don't know if the shooter is still there
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correct so this identifies him not only where the bodies are but identifies him as the person that called
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and and possibly not the shooter that's one thing that I kind of called into question too Alec Murdoch seems to be of
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zero concern if the shooter or Shooters are still there a very good point and it's like well does he know that they
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wouldn't be there or is he just so distraught from the scene that that's of little to no concern
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that's not even a thought that's managed to make it to his head yet and I don't have the information but I also when
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you're questioning that to me it's well how many entrances and exits are there to this property and is it one of those
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things where he he entered the only way you could and there was no car in in his
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path he saw no cars so therefore he just assumes that they're gone well and one thing I wanted to point out with this
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property is that this is a extremely remote private property right so right it's not a situation where somebody's
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just looking up an address and then driving out there and locating the the place very easily now this home was
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Maggie's preferred home again we already stated that they had several homes this
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is the one that she spent most of her time and preferred to spend most of her time at this residence this is because
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of the dogs so they had a a kennel and I think you hear him reference that on the call if
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not he at least references it during the you know the later days right but the kennels were where the bodies of Maggie
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and Paul were found lying close to each other which is about a quarter mile from
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the home that sits on the property so very large property here now very little next to nothing actually was released
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about the shootings and the investigation officers with the Colton County Sheriff's Office reported that they had
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discovered several shell casings at the scene and that Maggie and Paul were killed by different firearms
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but then they handed over the investigation to sled which is now being sued by multiple media outlets for not
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complying with foia rules now sled stands for it's the South Carolina state law enforcement division we have
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discussed sled here on the show many times in the past but for those unfamiliar the primary mission of the
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state law enforcement division is to provide quality Manpower and technical assistance to law enforcement agencies
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and to conduct investigations on behalf of the state as directed by the governor
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and the Attorney General now of course sled has done a lot of really great work on several cases that we have discussed
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definitely but specifically they did absolutely groundbreaking gangbusters work in the mid 80s on the Sherry Smith
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and Deborah helmet cases that we covered here and don't forget the the Gutierrez
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case they just made an arrest and they made that arrest in North Carolina but they made it because sled reopened the
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investigation so I won't be handing out the same critique as we did for the other agencies as sled has certainly
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earned a high level of garage cred here but here is what we have gathered as for
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what went down in this Maggie and Paul mother son double homicide situation this is coming from fits news they
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reported that authorities believe Paul was killed with a shotgun and that his mother was killed with a semi-automatic
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rifle The Wall Street Journal has the most information reporting that according to the death certificates
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Paul was shot in the chest and had according to a person close to the investigation
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he was shot at close range with a shotgun we also learned that Maggie was shot multiple times including in the
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back with a different gun and cases of a type of ammunition known as 300 Blackout
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were found nearby this according to two people close to the situation adding that the Murdoch family owned an AR-15
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style rifle that can use that type of ammunition but it was not was not recovered at the scene or turned over
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for inspection that's a little suspicious so the media has published these unsubstantiated reports but
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official statements are few and far between reports submitted to the court backing up sled's heavy redaction of
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police reports indicate that at least one firearm was seized at the scene fits news says that at least one of the
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weapons used in the shooting belonged to the family it also reports that casings
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were recovered and sheriff's deputies were seen searching a swampy area near the property and it has been widely
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reported that Maggie's cell phone was found on a road outside of the property so
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maybe one of the shooters collected her phone seems odd though maybe both phones but
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collected her phone and just tossed it out the window as they drove away from the scene possible it does seem a little
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odd but not if you want to prevent somebody from calling 9-1-1 and saving their own life so they can testify
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against you later in court yeah good point one of the Murdoch's extended family members used find my iPhone to
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Ping it so police could locate it that's how they located the phone finally fits news reports that redacted
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police reports about the scene indicate that there was a third party a third party at the scene when police
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arrived on the scene this person's name has not been released to the public interesting that they're not calling
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them a witness or a suspect my guess is maybe that this person was on the property you did say it's a large
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property that had no knowledge that the crime took place at the time that the crime took place and then they don't
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want to name the individual because they don't want people jumping to conclusions
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or are pointing the finger and saying that that person is a suspect well and the other thing here Captain is we got
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to keep in mind that this property you know they had the dog kennel there this was also like a a hunting an Outdoorsman
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type property so there were a lot of guns on this property makes me wonder if there was like um
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trail cams well and I always wonder too when you have people that have this kind
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of money and this kind of property this just happened recently we're not talking about a case that was 20 30 40
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years ago right I don't understand why people don't up their security game and have some cameras of their own and other
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things in place when you have the means to do so yeah this portion of the show is brought to you by Simply Safe that's
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right now the thing here though is what the reason why I'm pointing out that the
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Murdoch's had a lot of guns on this property is because it sounds very suspicious when you say all right well
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we're hearing from somebody a bit of a rumor that that one of them may have been shot with a gun that was owned by
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the murdochs now we don't know what went down I mean this could be a situation where
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one of them is being attacked and the other responds with gun in hand and somehow
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in in a scuffle ends up losing control of the gun and being shot with their own gun
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it's it's possible it's possible I I think until we have more information it's really difficult to kind of deduce
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what happened at the scene well based on the history of this family and the their
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lack of character it's funny we talk about this huge property one property of many that people with so little
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character can have so much in the ways of material things but my first question becomes okay well this father
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is not to be trusted even though he's the one calling 9-1-1 it's like do some tests to see if he fired any firearms
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that day well let's continue on through some of the official stuff and then we'll get into
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some of the things that we were able to find and uncover the Colton County coroner made the official identification
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of the bodies of Maggie and Paul and that they were killed by multiple gunshot wounds in the double homicide
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that's their official statement they died sometime between 9 and 9 30 p.m but police made a statement to the effect
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that there was no danger to the public but also saying that they had no Suspects
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well we've seen this movie before right captain we're being told by law enforcement that there's no danger to
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the public but we don't have any suspects right well if you don't know who did this how do you know that
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there's no danger to the public how do we know that this wasn't just a random act of violence or some kind of Thrill
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Kill there's two people dead by gunshot right you should be worried I feel like I'm in danger no Manhunt was announced
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either now what do police know about who shot Paul and Maggie that's the question
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right even if they're not publicly announcing a suspect do they actually have a suspect and believe that these
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two were targeted or one was targeted for any number of reasons and just because there's two types of ammo
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doesn't mean that there were two different Shooters it just means that there were two different weapons again a
00:37:26
shooter could have brought one firearm to the scene and then somehow one of them comes to defend themselves or
00:37:33
defend the other with a gun gun in hand a Murdoch comes with gun in hand right and ends up getting the gun turned on
00:37:39
them somehow well everybody of course is going to want to know what is Alec Murdoch's Alibi where was he before he
00:37:47
arrives home to this bloodbath I find it very suspicious that he's pretty clear that I just showed up I wasn't here
00:37:55
before yeah I I get it and and I think it's suspicious too the problem with Alec Murdoch is let's say he's
00:38:03
completely innocent in this situation in this one particular situation and then he then becomes a victim himself and
00:38:11
unfortunately he had to arrive home to seeing the worst thing you can imagine your wife and child dead the problem
00:38:18
with him is he's such a shady character right that you cannot look at him without giving the old stink eye in any
00:38:26
situation stinking pink that's right because he's just again he's such a shady character you feel like you cannot
00:38:33
if his if his lips are moving that's how you can tell he's lying that's the kind of
00:38:37
kind of guy that I peg him as but on the to play Devil's Advocate it's really hard to know how you'd react I'd hate to
00:38:46
have something tragic like this happen and then my 9-1-1 call is going to be scrutinized by anybody
00:38:54
but with all that said my speculation is it seems like he's kind of playing to the crowd with this call and
00:39:00
You're such in shock but you're telling the people you have to go because you have to call other family members right
00:39:06
yeah I didn't like that one bit but the other thing back to him pointing out that he just arrived on
00:39:12
the scene himself you wonder like is that him going out of his way to say hey look I just got here I was gone by the
00:39:20
way or is it just him letting the emergency operator no I cannot offer up any more information I just arrived on
00:39:30
the scene myself now his Alibi and it seems like he's got a pretty good one here this is according to the Wall
00:39:36
Street Journal says that on the evening of the shooting Alec Murdoch was with his father at the hospital Randolph who
00:39:45
was very sick remember we think Randolph is a little shady too in fact Randolph is 81 years old on this
00:39:53
day and Old Randolph Murdoch ended up passing away from natural causes just three days after Maggie and Paul were
00:40:01
murdered so to say that he was sick seems to be easily confirmed he was at a savannah hospital and was
00:40:09
quite ill the the father at this I'm guessing law enforcement checked out his Alibi because the hospital would have
00:40:15
had surveillance cameras it would be difficult for Alec Murdoch to be lying about his whereabouts to to use this as
00:40:22
an alibi and to for it to be false a false Alibi and Alec Murdock if you haven't seen him again a lot of these
00:40:30
photos will post on our website at truecrime garage.com or Twitter Facebook Instagram all that stuff we try to post
00:40:37
some pictures from the case onto the social media site so if you're not following us follow us there but
00:40:45
Alec Murdoch kind of looks like if you took Conan O'Brien and he put him in a bag and you lit him on fire and then you
00:40:53
put him on a porch and had somebody step him out that's kind of what he looks like the
00:40:58
police have not addressed Alex whereabouts that night but keep in mind Alec Murdock has technically not been
00:41:05
named publicly anyway as a person of interest in the shooting so possibly his Alibi is
00:41:12
holding up and holding up strong according to reports Buster Murdoch the other son was placed somewhere else that
00:41:20
night as well but if you wanted to hire somebody to kill your family members hey
00:41:25
make sure you have a solid Alibi make sure you're not home when that goes down the other problem with this whole
00:41:31
scenario is this kid that has been murdered was responsible for the death of a young woman and so anybody in that
00:41:42
family or anybody that would know her would have motive to wipe this bag of [ __ ] off this face of the Earth
00:41:52
well in this situation the whole Murdoch family murders every piece of this situation is
00:42:00
incredibly fluid at the moment so while we're recording this two days before it will come out some of this could
00:42:06
potentially change between now and then that's the risk that we're we're laying down for you here in the garage but the
00:42:13
short of it is that no suspects have been named in the shootings of Maggie and Paul and there have been no arrest
00:42:21
but two of Alex Brothers appeared on ABC's Good Morning America and stated that Paul Murdoch had been the subject
00:42:28
of death threats since he was charged in the death of Valerie Beach and the local
00:42:33
newspaper the Island packet reported that investigators were looking into the possibility that Paul was the intended
00:42:40
target right if you think about it there were a lot of people who might have been
00:42:45
really pissed that they were dragged through the mud because of the boat accident
00:42:50
that again all signs point toward Paul being responsible for Mallory's death well think about the other kids on the
00:42:55
boat that day when they're saying look this guy acted recklessly and he's not going to get in trouble for it and we
00:43:03
have reports of people saying he that Paul was smiling back at them like yeah I know I'm not going to get in trouble
00:43:09
for this so in some of those cases you want to take revenge into your own hands and I think his mother was just a
00:43:16
bystander of that we were kind of talking about this off mic earlier was if somebody wanted to kill him in
00:43:24
Revenge chances are the mother would be able to identify that person I don't know if there's two Shooters but
00:43:31
you could you could make an argument that multiple people would have the motive to want yeah there's no shortage
00:43:39
of people that might have it out for Paul Murdoch I mean just off the top of my big beautiful head here
00:43:45
the people at the convenience store who were being sued Luther's Bar who's being
00:43:50
sued the woods family who is being sued yeah the other kids on the boat one who lost his girlfriend right and one who
00:43:58
allegedly begged Paul to allow him to drive Mallory Beach's family yeah I mean I if if I'm Mallory Beach's father
00:44:09
my heart goes out to him first off but I I'm if I'm in that situation Captain yeah I I'm praying to God every morning
00:44:17
when I wake up that I don't lose my mind and go off and strangle that little bastard because I think the the the
00:44:25
problem with it is if they were just kids that were young and maybe they were having a few drinks
00:44:33
but they were trying to drive safely if it was literally an accident then maybe you
00:44:42
could find some way to forgive him or if there was some kind of remorse coming from Paul
00:44:48
but it seemed like again it was belligerent he was drunk he was acting erratic he was possibly on
00:44:57
drugs and he acted like there was no care in the world and on top of that the family acted like well forget Mallory
00:45:06
she's dead and gone we gotta save everybody else we gotta save our son from being becoming the next victim I
00:45:14
want to make sure captain that we note here that it's been reported that the beach family Mallory's family has
00:45:22
provided law enforcement with DNA samples so they have been cooperating with this investigation and
00:45:30
the other thing though that we need to keep in mind is I gave you a list of people
00:45:36
but there are several other families that might want revenge against the murdochs right that have obvious motives
00:45:42
for murder and we have not even got to them yet so you see what happens when you have a lot of power and you're not a
00:45:49
good person or persons well then you create a lot of enemies and sometimes when the Sun goes down and things get
00:45:56
dark and quiet those enemies come a calling this case has so many twists and turns and like I said
00:46:02
reminds me of boys on the tracks in the sense of that there's crimes upon crimes
00:46:07
upon crimes we have this boating accident that look it's it's murder his recklessness caused her death
00:46:15
now we have this double homicide we don't know who's responsible for it we're giving you as much facts as we can
00:46:23
find but on top of that this is now sparking a lot of rumors a lot of speculation yes and you see this
00:46:32
anytime you have a case that's high profile in nature but there's not much information people start to fill in the
00:46:38
blanks for you and some of this comes at the local level right and it kind of spills out and it spreads and now we
00:46:46
have some information that you know I got to be frank here it may or may not be 100 accurate uh so take it with a grain
00:46:55
of salt but these are some things that I found interesting along the way we didn't just we're not just going to
00:47:00
report every little tidbit that we find but the ones that seem to have some credibility to them or some
00:47:09
Intrigue to them we're certainly going to speculate on so one of the rumors that I found online was that Alec
00:47:17
when he found the bodies remember there was that statement that there was a third party who has not been named
00:47:24
publicly that was also at the scene now we do know that Alex says to the emergency Personnel operator hey I've
00:47:33
got to call some of my family so there's a chance that that this third party person arrived after
00:47:40
Alec called 9-1-1 or there's also a chance that this third party person was there
00:47:46
before Alec even arrived on the scene and one of the rumors points to that stating that when Alec found the bodies
00:47:54
one of the guys living in the caretaker house on the property called Alec this was Rogan Gibson now Rogan's got a
00:48:05
brother named Brody so the thought is that one or both brothers were staying at the caretaker house on the property
00:48:13
Rogan called Paul to take a photo of his dog for him his dog was in the kennel with the Murdoch's other dogs as it had
00:48:25
an injured tail the Gibsons were allegedly the new caretakers of this property so they're
00:48:32
taking care of the property and they're living there right there are rumors that at least one of
00:48:38
the Gibson brothers was at the shooting scene with Alec when police arrived all of the police reports have been heavily
00:48:45
redacted so again we cannot confirm if this is true or not right and there's also reports on
00:48:52
people arriving after the shootings right so that's where things get tricky could it have been one of these Gibson
00:48:59
brothers or both that were already on the scene or could it be one of these situations because we have people close
00:49:06
to the investigation that are saying the following that one of Alex Brothers remember we talked about the two
00:49:14
brothers that went on Good Morning America one of them claims that they arrived 15 minutes after Alec called him
00:49:23
which was after he called 9-1-1 and we know that Alex said I have family that I have to call
00:49:30
another situation too is that the other brother says that he arrived on the scene 30
00:49:36
minutes later after his brother called him so now these guys the brothers would be
00:49:43
arriving on the scene after Alex called 9-1-1 and after law enforcement presumably are already there on the
00:49:51
scene themselves well it seems like Paul's brother has a alibi that he was in North Carolina at the time right
00:49:59
again that's unconfirmed but we don't know what his Alibi is again it seems to be a situation where his Alibi might be
00:50:06
strong should be holding up uh rumor is that he was in Charlotte North Carolina so he was a a decent distance away at
00:50:13
the time of the shooting again you wonder how much of this is orchestrated and how much is not uh it's a it's a
00:50:20
very very confusing and fluid situation here with this case and the boat accident
00:50:28
as far as you know let's call it a boat murder as far as as anything goes on the
00:50:34
national level right this boat accident boat death tragedy would never have really made national news if it wasn't
00:50:43
for the unfortunate double homicide that took place well this is where it gets weird we have
00:50:50
so many unanswered questions from the boat accident the murder and now we have a double homicide and we
00:51:01
have even more questions on top of that there's a lot of questions and one of them being well who was the target you
00:51:09
know if this was not a Thrill Kill if this wasn't a random act of violence well then one or both of these murdochs
00:51:15
were the target yeah I leaned towards the idea that Paul was the target obviously he was a part of this accident
00:51:23
slash murder however you want to look at it but it was his actions during that his recklessness the fact
00:51:31
that he is doesn't seem to be remorseful seems like he thinks that he can just walk on water
00:51:40
so if he is the target then I believe then the the mother is just secondary just to make sure she's not an
00:51:47
eyewitness well and that's again that's what gets tricky right because there's no question here that Paul based
00:51:55
off of his General arrogant annoying ass hat Personality yeah that he would have
00:52:00
his fair share of enemies his mother Maggie on the contrary seems to have been generally liked by everyone
00:52:07
one thing that we don't know though is the life insurance policy situation seems to be confusing I've not been able
00:52:15
to find confirmation if there was life insurance money on on either these two victims
00:52:21
it's been reported by one of the Murdoch family's attorneys that there was not uh life insurance policies on either
00:52:29
Maggie or Paul but again I I hold that into question seeing how secretive the murdochs are with all of their
00:52:36
financials to begin with but again here Captain it just really boggles the mind could
00:52:43
could Maggie have been the Target and then Paula's collateral damage or Paul was the target Maggie's collateral
00:52:51
damage or did somebody have it out for the Murdoch's in general and just was willing to take out the whole family but
00:52:58
we have two that survive because they happen to not be there that night right this family's actions and family members
00:53:06
actions have put other people into grief the Revenge would be hey I want you to feel my pain and shortly after the
00:53:14
murders Alec Murdock himself offered up one hundred thousand dollars in reward money for information leading to the
00:53:21
arrest of whoever killed Maggie and Paul as a result of the murders of Maggie and
00:53:27
Paul the whole can of past worms got reopened and now we have three people dead hundreds of questions and we're
00:53:35
just getting started foreign [Music] so much more to get to in this case join us here next week for part three and
00:53:57
four Colonel until next week do we have any recommended reading of course Captain this week I'm very happy to be
00:54:04
recommending FBI diary profiles of Evil by Peter M klisman JR we've talked about
00:54:12
Peter before here on the show he was the FBI agent that very accurately gave the
00:54:18
profile in the Beatrice six case so he came on to True Crime garage.com and mentioned his book in our blog and I
00:54:27
said you know what I gotta go pick it up it's a great read it's like receiving FBI profiler on the job training he's
00:54:35
walking you through how he learned in the cases that he worked over the years so make sure you check out FBI diary
00:54:41
profiles of Evil by Peter klisman Jr you can find that great title and many more
00:54:46
on our recommended page at truecrime garage.com and until next week be good because
00:54:52
don't litter [Music]