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[Music] foreign [Music] Drive Kendall okay in a room Drive in Kendall yes all right I'm just going to
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bring that up on my map it won't be a moment thank you how long has he been missing well I
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think well we've been looking in for him now for about 15 or 20 minutes but hey I
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thought it could be five it could be longer because he was just playing around here we heard him and then we
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heard nothing okay I've got the nearest cross street thing everdale prison is that right so what is it Ellendale
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Crescent I don't know my this is my mum's house um there's another lady out helping us look
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see him I'll see if I can find her but it's been a room b-e-n-j-r- double o yeah I can see I can
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see where you are I'm just a minute yeah so it's been around Drive in Kendall and
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I just thought I've got your nearest cross street as being Ellendale Crescent it could be I don't know okay
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they've been missing since about 10 30. yeah I'd say so okay can you describe him to me how tall obviously not very
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tall he'd be about two and a half feet he's wearing a Spider-Man outfit yeah we've got um dark Sandy colored hair
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it's short he's got really big brownie green colored eyes okay so you get any shoes on do you know any
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any other distinguishing thank you um he has oh he's got a freckle on the top of his head when you part the hair on
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the left hand side yeah you'll see a freckle on the top of his head do you know where he might have gone
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um where we actually live we'll run properties near a state forest okay and they're on skewed blocks we've walked up
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and down been a roon drive and we can't find him okay what's his name William we were civilian surname uh Tyrrell
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t-y-w-r-e-l-l okay has he been known to sort of go anywhere no this is the first
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time there wasn't anyone um suspicious in the area any Vehicles no no no no no well
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not no not that I'm aware of we'll just I was out there talking with mum and my other daughter so okay and we heard him
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roaring around the garden and then I thought oh I haven't heard him I better go check on him okay all right we'll
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send police to see you in a room driving Kendall or forget that um a message broadcasted to all the cars that people
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look out for him as well okay thank you all right bye-bye foreign [Music] [Music]
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garage ship to a foreign land in unfamiliar territory and we will do our very best to try to fit in while we are
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here this is a horrific story of a little boy who was reported missing in a very very odd story at that I actually
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thought of that documentary out there called missing 4-1-1 when first reading about this case that's a documentary
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about a couple of different stories of children who have gone missing and seemingly just Vanishing Into Thin Air
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so this is one of those types of cases this week's case takes place in Australia and at the center of this case
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is William Tyrrell born June 26 2011. now William disappeared when he was just three years old William tarot
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was still a baby when he arrived at the home of his new foster parents reports out there suggest that this was to be a
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permanent Arrangement the baby boy had been removed from his biological parents both of whom had encountered problems
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with police his biological father had spent most of William's short life incarcerated
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William did have supervised visits with his biological parents after being placed in foster care however these
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visits were infrequent and William identified his foster family as his parents and was known to publicly
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use their surname so one tricky thing here in this case Captain is that the the name of the
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foster parents has not been disclosed to the public so just to be clear William's last name
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as reported on TV and in the papers is Tyrrell this is the surname of his biological mother and not that of his
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foster parents also before we move on too far we should mention that while William's biological
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parents had run-ins with the law there is no indication that they were ever violent to the little boy Carly Tyrrell
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is William's biological mother and the father is her estranged partner Brandon Collins who is also known as bonesy he
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has been described as a career Criminal by the media but a relative said I wouldn't say he's made much of a career
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out of it now don't quote me on this well the thing is so he's not only is he a criminal but he's a loser criminal I I
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think you know I to be completely honest I don't know 100 of the details of this
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man's run-ins with the police and and you know being behind bars he has been in jail multiple times when the media
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States career criminal I think of somebody that's that's a criminal to to survive to kind of make money and to
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um you know get things and and get by in life it appears to me from what I've been able to dig up that most of his
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run-ins with the law stem from alcohol and drug problems that he has which right you know that nobody makes a
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career out of being an alcoholic and a drug addict well some people do well they don't make any money at it right it
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was what I'm getting at and unless maybe he was a dealer but I couldn't find anything to suggest that it appears to
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me that he's quite the drug addict and he's got some that he's a pretty violent individual at
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times um and it appears that there had been several uh domestic violence charges on
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this guy as well so for some reason they take this boy away from his parents and
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give him to a foster family boy goes missing but we're not allowed to know anything about the foster
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parents is there a reason why we're not allowed to know anything well I don't fully understand this and I
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think it has something to do with Australian law or um law of that area so these these foster parents have when
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William went missing they have more than one foster kid in their care and I I believe that the reason why they cannot
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disclose their name is has something to do with that foster care situation that either they're protected by certain laws
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or that because they're trying to gain full custody of this other child that they have in their care right
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um that their name cannot be disclosed for that purpose and this is the way that the way that I view this it
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seems a little weird because at the early get-go of this case a lot of people were very suspicious of the
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foster parents because their name wasn't revealed right the way that I understand
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it is the courts will not them will not allow them to reveal their name I could have that wrong but there are several
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things to suggest that judges have prevented that from happening in the media basically what you're
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assuming I guess is that that the foster parents they would be fine with using their names and their
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identity but the courts are stopping them from doing so that is my best guess um and to further convolute this whole
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situation I believe that the other child that is still in their care right is very likely William's older sister
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hmm so there are several reports out there that state that William was about eight
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to nine months old when he went out of the home and into foster care there is one report out there that states that
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William was 11 months old uh this might be the most accurate I don't know I only
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say that because this article is comprised of several things but the primary factor of that article is an
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interview with Williams biological grandmother so that would be William's biological fathers it would be his
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mother in that article now I had to do some reading between the lines here because all articles on this are very
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vague so keep in mind I am stating what I believe to be the case I could be wrong but it sounds like the parents had
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some kind of not only drug issues but domestic violence charges against each other
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possibly against one another and maybe they had been forbidden to be in each other's company all right so they get
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hopped up on drugs and they like to hit each other or yes or yeah there's some kind of squabble or fight that that has
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occurred on more than one occasion now the other thing though the reason why I think that there's a bit of a gap
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between the time that William goes into foster care is that we have the grandmother the
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biological grandmother that states that they were told they were going to lose William and it sounds to me like they
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had already lost their daughter at this time I'm unclear if the daughter belongs
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to both of of these parents right but what has happened here is the grandmother has stated that the the kids
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and when I say kids I mean these two young uh people that have had these children they kind of went on the run
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with their son William they they took off and tried to avoid the law and try to avoid losing their son when they were
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spotted somewhere they were they were arrested and the child was then taken from them so that's why I think that
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there is a bit of a discrepancy of when they lost their child my guess is that they were supposed to lose William at
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the eight or nine month Mark they went on the Run they were on the run for six weeks or so and the law caught up to
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them yeah so so whenever they took custody of William William is going to go to a wealthy family from Sydney's
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North Shore yeah and he was being raised by this family at the time of his disappearance
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the Foster family they were even in the process of renovating their house to create their forever family home to
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include William in a new room for William the foster parents have regularly spoken out in media interviews
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but I guess I should I'm going to kind of Backtrack on something I said already there are
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reports out there that state that they cannot that their identity cannot be disclosed there are also reports out
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there that state that they have requested that they not be identified so just to be clear that there are
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arguments on both sides of that fence so now that we have a little bit of background Captain let's get into the
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details of William's disappearance and some of the events leading up to and some of the events of that day now real
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quick a description of William this Source says quote the nsw that's the New South Wales police they believe that
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William was abducted and they strongly believe that he may still be alive so I want everybody to pay close attention to
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this so the source is a website that maybe could use an update uh but regardless
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there is a website out there called where'swilliam.org and on that website you can donate there you can get
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involved um or maybe you could donate some of your computer skills and update some of
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their information update the website for me um but to include a description of William we pulled this straight from the
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where'swilliam.org website so describing what William looks like William is of Caucasian appearance William was above
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average height for his age not overly tall but taller than most boys his age when he disappeared
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the site also says that William walks with a Swagger he has hazel eyes brown straight hair which grows very quickly
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his hair is thicker on the top of his head and finer towards the base of his head near his neck William has one
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rather large dark Freckle on the left-hand side that is near the top of his head about five centimeters back
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from his hairline he also has asthma which is worse in the cold months so let's get to The Disappearance on
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Thursday September 11 2014 William Tyro is just three years old he has picked up along with his
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sister from daycare I've read a few accounts of this day that state it was a surprise that the children were taken
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out of school as part of a very impromptu at a town trip most sources do not say that
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that or at least do not go into detail of him being picked up so from my understanding Captain the
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plan was to go out of town that weekend for a weekend trip to Nana's house to the the Foster grandmother's home right
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the plan was to travel on Friday for some reason the foster parents they got done with work early and they decided to
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surprise not only the children who loved going to Nana's house but also surprised
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nana I guess she had been I don't know if it was a chronic illness or she had been sick or there's been something
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going on in her life where the foster parents wanted to cheer her up by bringing the children to her sooner so
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it was a bit of a surprise take the kids out of daycare on Thursday let's go ahead and make the four hour trip to
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Nana's house on that Thursday instead of Friday right this is the Foster mom's mom so they traveled about four hours
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from Sydney to visit Williams foster grandmother in a place called Kendall now this sounds like maybe a long
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weekend trip like I had said so they're going to go out to Kendall this is in New South Wales which I've never heard
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of Kendall but checking it out this this looks like a very cool place um the grandmother's house is on
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benaroon drive so there are a couple of streets there with some houses it's a little neighborhood kind of tucked away
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this is a wooded area right by the Kendall Forest which is a large uh when you Google Map
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the street there you you will see that the forest practically surrounds the grandmother's neighborhood is it like a
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park or is it just natural it could be some kind of natural National Forest but it is a heavily wooded area and like I
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said this is a small neighborhood that is surrounded by Forest now according to the 2011 census the population of
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Kendall is just 833 people and at the time of The Disappearance or abduction uh it was reported that this town had
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less than 1500 people in it so Kendall is a small Country Town yeah so the street on which she lives at the time of
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The Disappearance has been a room drive now to get to been a room Drive regardless of what direction you are
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traveling from you have to take Batar Creek Road and Batar Creek Road is sort of a long sprawling country road so
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there is only one way in and out of this little neighborhood benarun drive has a
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few more than a dozen houses located on benarun and there's a short street that comes off of benarun the name of that
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street is Ellendale Crescent which only has probably less than 10 houses on it okay but this this could be important to
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this case so that's why I point out all these things and we will see why but the
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important thing to picture here is both better Rune drive and the attached Street of Ellen Dale are both dead-end
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streets and you can only get into this little neighborhood when traveling the roads
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when traveling the roads from that Country Road Batar Creek right so the family of four they stay the night at
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Grandmom's house yeah so we have five people in the house correct the next morning
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this is the day that the little boy goes missing so we want to go through a detailed timeline right it's gonna be
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Friday yes so the day starts off like this sometime before 9 A.M just before breakfast uh the Foster mother opens a
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sliding glass door to the balcony to bird watch she will later say that it is at this
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time when she notices two cars parked down the road at 9 00 a.m William and his sister are
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riding their bikes a car drives past the children this vehicle according to police is described
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as a dark green or grayish color sedan this car drove past 48 benaroon Drive that's where they were staying as
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William was riding his bike on the driveway the car drove into the quiet cul-de-sac did a u-turn in a neighbor's
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driveway and then drove out of the street around this same time there is a woman
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named Mrs Wilson she tells police that she heard two children playing in a neighboring yard
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before she left to run errands in the township she is leaving to go shopping she hears two kids playing next door she
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does not see any kids or any parked cars at 9 15 a.m the Foster father takes off
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to make what is reported as either a phone call or a Skype conference call and he has to do this due to poor
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internet remember we said these are kind of a country area he's going to have to
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drive into town to make this phone call or this Skype call the town that he he says he went to is about 11 minutes away
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by car later police confirmed that he was where he said he was right right at 9 45 a.m the Foster mother takes a photo
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of William sitting on the deck the time and date are confirmed later by police now this has become a famous photo he's
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uh wearing a Spider-Man outfit yeah and this is incredibly like a very weird coincidence I think here because you
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know often with these children when they go missing one of the first things that
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police and detectives are going to try to to get from the parents is going to be give us your most recent photograph
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of your child give us your most updated photograph of this little boy or little girl yeah and here we have a situation
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where maybe just minutes before the kid goes missing the mother the stepmother I'm sorry I'm gonna Foster mother right
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she takes three pictures of William at that time at 9 45 a.m and one like you said Captain is the now famous photo of
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William Tyrrell where he you can see him playing on the deck he's wearing a Spider-Man outfit you know shirt and
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pants yeah it's probably like Spider-Man PJs yeah and you can it's it's it's just
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very strange it's a very weird coincidence I don't think it's that strange now I mean I think you're going
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to see that more and more I mean there's there's always people that go missing and now with technology you're going to
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have snap you know we've seen it with other cases where somebody snapchatted themselves or somebody else snapchatted
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somebody or posted something on Instagram or Facebook and then they go missing you know just a little bit later
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I think you're spot on because I I gotta believe we are because of phones and technology we are all taking more
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pictures now more than ever so William and his sister are playing outside they are running around hiding and laughing
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you know they are just little kids so probably screaming and yelling as they are having fun they're playing games
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from about 10 a.m to about 10 25 A.M so the home has a large deck on the back of
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the house it's like a like a balcony deck now it sounds like maybe the last game or activity that the kids were
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playing would be kind of like hide and seek little William was running around to the
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back of the house and hiding under the deck area from his sister at approximately 10 15 A.M
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this is the last time that the Foster mother says that she physically saw William
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one of the investigators words are quote our starting point is approximately a five minute window when young William
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walked around the side of the house into the backyard and disappeared from sight
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while his mother and grandmother went inside for a cup of tea now moving on at 10 30 a.m the Foster
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mother notices that she does not see William nor does she hear him anymore remember we said that they were
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screaming yelling roaring laughing yeah I I think she made claims that he was he
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constantly was doing this like Roar like it was a lion or a tiger this is when she decides to go looking
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for him the grandmother at this time does not know where William is either then the neighbor this is Anne-Marie sharply
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she spots the mother and the grandmother searching for the boy so she decides to
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join the search at around 10 36 ish let's say another neighbor reported that his wife had left the house around this
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time and he stated that his wife didn't see anything unusual at this time at 10 50 a.m the foster dad arrives home and
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in all honesty this is a bit of a guess here but I'll show you how I got to this
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1050 Mark so nothing complicated here but there are two things that point that this is a pretty accurate time one the
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foster mom says that the boy was missing for about 15 to 20 minutes before her husband had returned to the home and two
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the husband says that he had returned approximately five minutes before they called emergency services and we know
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that that call came in at 10 56 a.m so at 10 56 a.m the Foster mother phones triple zero emergency services with the
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neighbor Anne-Marie Shipley when the Foster mother is asked how long had he been missing she answers we have been
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looking for him for about 15 to 20 minutes foreign [Music] [Music] we're back cheers mates cheers Captain
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so where we left off we had the Emergency Services called the triple zero Emergency Services called we have a
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little boy William Tyrrell who is three years old and he is missing yeah which is their triple zero is the same as our
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9-1-1 the call goes in at 10 56 a.m the police arrive on scene at at 11 06 a.m and that's
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I actually find that to be a rather quick response given the area given the the the size of the area
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um and we've heard the 9-1-1 call it's not a short call so the call comes in at 10 56 10 minutes later police are on the
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scene um several officers state that when they arrived the Father the Foster father was
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inside the home and was visibly upset to the officers now at 11 12 a.m the canine
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unit or the dog unit is dispatched to the home to help in the search at 11 44 a.m State emergency services are
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informed of the situation so what are State Emergency Services this is more like we're going to bring
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in firefighters other people that are trained in search and rescue we're going to start bringing in a large group of
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people to look for this little boy at 12 52 PM the police helicopter takes to the
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sky and I'm guessing that this helicopter was not part of Kendall's you know I don't know that Kendall would
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have a helicopter maybe they did maybe they borrowed it from a neighboring jurisdiction right at 1 pm just a little
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more than two and a half hours after three-year-old William Tyrrell was last seen by his foster mother 100 people had
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joined in and were desperately searching for the little boy so as far as the early investigation in the search for
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the little boy goes hundreds of police members of the state Emergency Services rural fire service and members of the
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community searched day and night for William specialist police including the sex
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crime Squad they formed a task force uh it was practically immediately formed as the
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day went on they formed this task force motorcycles and helicopters were brought
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in to join in the search 200 volunteers searched overnight hundreds of people combed rugged terrain around the home
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and police divers searched waterways and dams the police searched every house in the
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in the area that had surrounds benarun Drive several times the police detection dogs were brought in and they managed to
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detect Williams scent but only within the boundaries of the backyard so let's go into that in a little more detail
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shall we so let's start with the houses being searched yeah so police searched each of the 21 houses that surrounds
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benarun Drive the street where William's grandmother lives they searched the houses not once
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not twice but three and four times the rights yes each time using different Personnel to make sure that fresh a
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fresh set of eyes looked at every possible angle every possible clue it seems like all the neighbors were
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willing to help and hey you want to search my house come on in yeah there was no Kickback multiple searches roof
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spaces subfloor spaces wall cavities cupboards sheds all were searched and searched again with methodical
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determination just in case someone was keeping the little boy hidden even the grandmother's house was searched top to
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bottom but there was nothing so if he was abducted if William was abducted he was not being held in the
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neighborhood from which he was taken so they didn't find a scrap of clothing they didn't find a footprint in the dirt
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they didn't find tire marks now on to the police dogs as we said they were brought in and they managed to find
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William scent but only within the boundaries of the backyard okay well this is not good right
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um and I'll tell you why we we talked about this when we covered Mara Murray uh with the with the dogs tracking the
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scent scent dogs yeah so it appears that Williams Foster grandmother's home is kind of on a corner this make this
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making portions of both the front and back of the house visible from the streets now the yard has quite a few
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trees these are the whole neighborhood is is well manicured Lawns and Landscapes but it's very possible that
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someone could have pulled up right to the yard call the boy over and either snatch him up there or trick him into
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their vehicle the troubling thing here is this would leave the evidence that they found at
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the scene where they find they're able to track the boy on his grandmother's property but nowhere else
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so do they have like a scent that you know because he was playing on the porch or the or the deck whatever you want to
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call it it sounds to me like he was playing up close to the hole right because if you look at the way that the
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home the layout of it there appears to be like a deck or a sitting area that is kind of the best way to describe it is
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on the side of the home that does not face the street so the front of the house the other side of the house in the
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back of the house are all pretty visible from these two streets which has all been a rune drive but it kind of like
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dead ends and then veers off to the right into another dead end yeah and he's running around this backyard so
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you're gonna have some scent of them there but do we have like a path from that deck or from the house to a road
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inconclusive okay all reports state that the uh they were able to track his scent
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but only found the scent in the within the boundaries of the grandmother's property right so we don't know where it
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stopped or right right and that's what I mean my I'm curious could somebody have
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pulled up right to the property line and coax the little boy into their vehicle or just jumped out and grabbed
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him real quick right yeah and if if you pick him up in the air that you would assume that the scent
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would they would lose the set yeah and and from our experience Captain you know this unfortunately most of the time when
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we see a situation like that if that is in fact the case we don't know that because they've not been very detailed
00:34:50
in their their report of this but if in fact that we have a trail and then all of a sudden there is no more scent
00:34:57
anymore we've found that most of the time that means that they were picked up or they
00:35:02
got into a vehicle yeah so one minute we have William running in the yard based off the scent dogs and then one minute
00:35:10
he's gone and another Curious Thing here is that he's supposedly playing with his
00:35:16
older sister yeah but so is she just on the opposite side of the house because I I couldn't
00:35:24
find a statement from her anywhere yeah this is very troubling to me now when we
00:35:28
say older sister I we don't have a whole lot of detail of how old she is but when
00:35:33
when I hear that they're taken out of daycare to go I think she's like 32. I'm assuming she's probably you know like
00:35:42
five maybe four or five right so slightly older than William but yeah like you said we don't have any witness
00:35:49
statement from her saying hey I saw this happen or this person this weird person
00:35:55
entered the yard um now I do want to point out here this area this Kendall area having never been
00:36:03
there I'm going to make some guesses some inferences here it does not look like a cheap place to
00:36:09
live okay these are very nice homes this this neighborhood from the houses that I
00:36:14
could see all appear to be very nice homes well maintained and the lots are very big the yards are very big now
00:36:23
there are like I said in in the grandmother's yard as well as other yards surrounding it there are a lot of
00:36:30
trees and Landscaping and things like that going on so could he have been grabbed and there was an obstacle
00:36:38
between his sister and him of pine trees or something of that nature where she couldn't see what was going on or maybe
00:36:45
maybe whatever game they were playing just kind of fizzled out and she was doing her own thing and not really
00:36:51
paying attention to her little brother the other thing though too captain at no point do either the mother the
00:36:57
grandmother or any of the neighbors say that they heard a vehicle speeding off or Tire squealing in a rush to get out
00:37:06
of the air area you know grabbing the kid and then boom you know hitting the road how did that
00:37:12
go again that was not a very good I've been had it has a bit of a head cold here yeah so you're bad at sound effects
00:37:18
now um but well but why look if you're going to commit a crime or you're going to abduct somebody
00:37:28
that wouldn't the best way to do that always to be even Keel and just like you know like
00:37:37
you grab the kid you get in your car you drive at normal speed right you know you
00:37:43
you try not to be you have your seat belt on you're not breaking any other laws that would get you pulled over or
00:37:48
draw attention right because hypothetically somebody grabs a kid they put put them in the car and they start
00:37:54
driving 70 miles down a road where there's only one way in and one way out and everybody that sees the car goes oh
00:38:01
I remember that car it was going 80 miles an hour so I I'm but I am curious why do we not have
00:38:08
a statement from her even if the statement is and I'm not saying that has come from her but what are the foster
00:38:14
parents saying that hey did she go inside for a minute was was he was William out playing by
00:38:20
himself for five ten minutes right well the the the very troubling thing about this when you look at this
00:38:28
spot on the map you could take a kid from this spot and you could be on that country road that
00:38:36
we talked about in two minutes and this would be without speeding away from the scene of of the abduction right and I'm
00:38:44
guessing once you hit that Country Road you could be gone and out of the area fairly quickly even with police arriving
00:38:50
on the scene within 10 minutes of the emergency call going out and you're right Captain the general story that has
00:38:59
always been told To Us by the foster parents is that the the two little kids were outside playing in the yard it was
00:39:07
a it was a nice day and the mother and grandmother went inside for to get a cup of tea that they
00:39:16
estimate that they were only gone 10 maybe 15 minutes but remember we said that the mother had opened up the
00:39:23
balcony door I'm also assuming that that might mean that other windows are probably open to the home at this time
00:39:29
right because she does state that she could hear the children outside playing while her and her mother were inside the
00:39:37
home so yeah anybody that's watched kids before knows I mean normally if you can
00:39:42
hear them everything's fine yeah it's when you know it's once you stop hearing them that normally something bad
00:39:49
happened yeah yeah and so those are the only accounts that we have to go off of um
00:39:56
the crazy thing though you know this happens on a Friday morning so you would think that there might not be a lot of
00:40:03
potential eyewitnesses however I I don't think that's the case here from my understanding that this Kendall area is
00:40:11
a lot of retire correct retired people and it also sounds like there were quite a bit of people home in this
00:40:19
neighborhood during that time there were even other kids that were outside reporting to have been playing at the
00:40:24
time of this disappearance and remember this they're not even supposed to be there on that Friday right they they
00:40:32
probably would have still been traveling to Kendall at that time okay so back to
00:40:37
the early investigation we mentioned a strike force was uh formed very quickly this is called strike force Roseanne was
00:40:45
established with specially trained investigators from the State Crime command who were experienced in The
00:40:51
Unexplained disappearance of young children they supported the police other Emergency Services Workers and members
00:40:59
of the public involved in the search now after five days police said that they were unable to come up with any leads in
00:41:07
The Disappearance of the little boy one very important thing to note here though
00:41:11
we talked about the Foster grandmother's house being searched yeah I would guess
00:41:17
that at this time that the authorities were going to be taking a very good look at the foster parents as well but I want
00:41:26
to point out here that at 4 30 pm on the day that William vanished according to Williams biological grandmother Williams
00:41:35
biological parents were arrested on that day as well they were arrested for what
00:41:40
just drugs um I I have no statement other than the grandmother stating that at 4 30 pm on
00:41:47
the day that William went missing the biological parents were arrested were they arrested or were they just
00:41:53
brought him for questions well well I tell you let's continue on our investigation timeline because I think
00:41:59
that that might hijack the conversation a little bit so they bring in cadaver dogs at all to the search area yeah so
00:42:09
there are multiple dog units that were brought in I'm assuming that that what would be the case
00:42:16
um however you got to keep in mind that especially in the early stages of the search they believe they're searching
00:42:22
for a for a living breathing human human being [Music] um not a cadaver keep in mind so much of
00:42:30
the of the he went missing on September 12th that as you pointed out a Friday so
00:42:35
much of the next few days were spent searching the forest and these searches were being conducted by hundreds of
00:42:42
Searchers including the eight of dogs motorcycles helicopters and so on the search areas included waterways and dams
00:42:49
as we had mentioned also during this time the sex crime Squad was interviewing people and speaking with
00:42:55
locals the search expanded to three kilometers around the spot from where he had disappeared from so a very expansive
00:43:03
search and most of it is very rugged terrain if you check out the map there police on the on the fifth day said that
00:43:11
these searches of the forest and the waterways have provided zero zero leads or Clues as to the
00:43:20
whereabouts of William and we don't have any scent trail of him going from the backyard into the forest anyways yeah
00:43:27
right they did say that if by some chance the boy was in the bush land we might that he might still be alive at
00:43:37
this time now this is five days after he's gone missing a source on that same day tells reporters that the police in
00:43:44
the task force had also been talking to all sex offenders in that region now nine days into the search how many
00:43:53
offenders do we have in that that region I mean we don't have that many people in
00:43:57
the population well I I would imagine when they say region that that expands beyond the
00:44:04
boundaries of the town of Kendall right now nine days into the search the um the
00:44:10
search was largely scaled back nine days into it um the thought here is the emergency
00:44:16
service workers believe that if he were in the bush land that he would be presumed to have been dead by this time
00:44:24
yeah um and again there was still no evidence to suggest that that scenario was even
00:44:30
possible at that point so when we say that the search was largely scaled back that means that at this point we are
00:44:37
just going to have law enforcement working on the search for William what does that mean what we can what we can
00:44:42
infer from that is that that means we are now working off of tips received by the sent in by the public and we're also
00:44:50
working on leads of possible offenders uh talking to the sex offenders in the region would also point to that
00:44:58
on January 6 2015 the commander denied reports that investigators were treating the case as a targeted abduction
00:45:09
now that same month on the 20th January 20th forensic teams searched the home of
00:45:15
a Tradesman this is William spedding he goes by Bill spedding so we'll call him that Bill spedding had gave Williams
00:45:22
foster grandmother a quote to fix a washing machine at her home this was just four days before the child went
00:45:30
missing and it's not clear what they took from his home but they did take some items from his home I'm guessing
00:45:36
they tested them and Bill also offered up his DNA as well and Bill spedding was questioned at that time and as you
00:45:43
mentioned up he offered up his DNA so he was he was cooperative yeah at that time
00:45:48
but uh there's been a lot of Publications people on social media still throwing him under the bus well we will learn
00:45:56
that bill has a questionable background involving allegations with him and children and so that's going to
00:46:06
keep him in the the spotlight yeah keep him in the spotlight and in the target of the public on March 2nd 2015 police
00:46:16
and homicide Squad units began a new search this was for the body of William and the dense Bush land of Bonnie Hills
00:46:26
off of the Pacific Highway after receiving a tip from a member of the public this was an extensive search this
00:46:34
was not an easy area to search but they did it anyway nothing was found as a result of this tip on April 17th the
00:46:44
same year New South Wales police revealed that they were investigating reports of a possible pedophile ring
00:46:52
operating in the area that William had disappeared okay this this could be a strong Theory and there
00:47:00
is some evidence to suggest that this suspected pedophile ring could could be a possibility could be
00:47:08
the solution to to what happened to William right so what we would later learn is
00:47:15
that police clear Williams family and any involvement in The Disappearance and it sounds like they cleared them fairly
00:47:23
early and then quickly they believed that the boy was abducted by a possible opportunity opportunistic stranger
00:47:32
later which makes the most sense because he doesn't live in that area I'm sure now he's three at the time they get they
00:47:42
get William as [ __ ] you know being his foster parents at let's say roughly age
00:47:48
one so how many times did they visit there right you know so it it it's just not
00:47:54
likely that somebody would know that that William was going to be at his grandma's house right and even though
00:48:00
this was a you know because a lot what a lot of people will point to is this was
00:48:04
an unplanned trip and actually straight from the foster mother's mouth are the words that this was a planned trip the
00:48:13
UN what where people get confused is the unplanned portion was we went early so like you had pointed out earlier that
00:48:21
very likely they would not have been there that at that time on that Friday no they would have waited till the
00:48:27
school was out or the daycare was out and then they would have left and the reason why I will not shoot down the
00:48:33
possibility of an opportunistic stranger abduction here is for one thing that we
00:48:40
already pointed out we have other Witnesses other people that lived in the neighborhood stating that they were not
00:48:46
only were they home that day but they had children I don't know if they were their children or their grandkids but
00:48:52
there were other children that were out playing in this neighborhood on that very day and what I mean by
00:48:58
opportunistic stranger it's forgive me for saying so but to put it bluntly it's like going to the grocery
00:49:07
store and picking out some produce right you if you know that there's going to be
00:49:11
a decent amount of children if that's what you are looking for you go to that area you Scout it out and you you take
00:49:20
what seems to be a an easy target but this doesn't seem like the most likely area because there's one way in
00:49:32
and one way out you'd think that the perpetrator would know that oh yeah I I absolutely believe that
00:49:39
either either the perpetrator knew this if if he was in fact abducted that they knew that there was one way in and one
00:49:47
way out because they I believe if it was an opportunistic stranger that abducted
00:49:52
little William that the person pulled into the neighborhood probably cruised the the small area and and looked at the
00:50:02
children that were outside playing at that time that that doesn't you know rule out the possibility that it's sex
00:50:08
ring either you know no not at all you know not at all now and it was later um you know like we said early in the
00:50:16
investigation it appears we're later told that they they very quickly believe that the the child was not abducted by
00:50:24
his foster parents or his biological parents or that they had anything to do with his disappearance or demise right
00:50:30
and we're told that very early on the police were quickly working on the thought the in theory that he was
00:50:38
abducted by an opportunistic stranger now later is when they start examining the possibility that this quote
00:50:47
opportunistic stranger may have had a connection with a pedophile ring or you know so maybe he was abducted by more
00:50:55
than one person but you also have the the thought there too is procuring an individual or victim for this
00:51:05
pedophile ring you know somebody that maybe not be maybe is not fully involved in the
00:51:12
pedophile ring but but taking the child and giving them to a member of that pedophile ring is a
00:51:20
possibility well they they sell them most of the time well no that's what I mean procuring them for this so so
00:51:28
there's Le if you have a stranger on Stranger abduction not only is it hard to make the link between the abductor
00:51:34
and the victim but then if you add a middleman in there too that's going to make it even harder to trace this back
00:51:42
to where William could be or where he's being held now some some evidence to point to the possibility of this this
00:51:51
pedophile ring is remember the old show maybe it's maybe it's a current show I don't know but you know the show current
00:51:58
affair which I've not seen in a bazillion years so yeah yeah well it's kind of like Entertainment Tonight kind
00:52:04
of okay so it could be still around I'm just unaware but the show current affair
00:52:09
reported that about 20 registered sex offenders were living in the surrounding area of Kendall 20 registered correct
00:52:19
and and then we know that there's at least if there's 20 registered there's going to be at least a few that aren't
00:52:25
registered yeah yeah these are typically um crimes that go heavily unreported or
00:52:32
when they are reported there's little evidence to convict somebody of these because it it a lot of times it turns
00:52:41
into what he said she said situation where you only have the victim's word to go off of
00:52:48
um and I know that in situations here I I don't I'm not familiar with Australian
00:52:53
law but in situations here that doesn't usually work well to get a conviction now on June 11 2015 newspaper Reports
00:53:03
say that a Spider-Man toy was found in the work van of what ABC News referred to as a person of interest in the
00:53:13
William Tyrrell disappearance case this was the man that we previously discussed
00:53:18
Mr Bill spedding however this is this is the guy that gave him a quote on the washing machine yes
00:53:28
um that his house was searched he offered up his DNA however the New South Wales police would not confirm the
00:53:35
discovery of this Spider-Man toy or comment on this story at all so where we have this reported we don't have police
00:53:45
confirmation then police later began investigating into the finding into finding the drivers of two cars
00:53:55
that were seen parked on the Dead End Road on the morning that William disappeared the cars were described as a
00:54:02
white station wagon and an older style gray sedan which were parked between two driveways of the acre lot of land they
00:54:12
were seen with their driver side windows down and they were unknown to the neighborhood where the locals are all
00:54:19
considered to be friends these cars were noticed by William's mother and they have not been seen in the area again
00:54:27
since The Disappearance the police regard these particular vehicles with much suspicion as there seemed to be no
00:54:35
logical reason why they would be parked on the street before William's disappearance reportedly at 9 00 a.m a
00:54:44
green or gray sedan car drove past the Terrell home while William and his sister were riding bikes in the driveway
00:54:51
the car drove into the no through Road did a u-turn in the neighbor's driveway and drove out of the street second day
00:55:01
secondly this is something completely different another and I don't have much of a description on this vehicle here
00:55:07
Captain but another quote four-wheel drive was cited driving out of benarun Drive about 10 30 a.m
00:55:17
this is approximately the time that William disappeared the same vehicle was later seen speeding down another Kendall
00:55:24
Street the police said that they have not known that they have known about these cars since the investigation
00:55:32
started since the day of his disappearance however as part of an investigative strategy the information
00:55:39
about these vehicles was not released to the public until September 7th 2015 when
00:55:46
they announced a public appeal for information about these two cars detective Gary jubilin said during the
00:55:53
The Plea for information quote we're looking at a semi-royal area and it was a dead end Street to attend out there
00:56:02
there would have to be a reason yeah and on the same day which is roughly about a
00:56:08
year after William went missing law enforcement is going to release the tape of the triple zero call that Williams
00:56:15
Foster mother made of you know reporting William going missing the Triple zero again is what we refer to and the state
00:56:24
says a 9-1-1 call on September 13th 2015 criminal profiler Dr Sarah Ewell from the police task force working with
00:56:34
detectives to find William revealed details about the person police suspect suspect may have abducted the toddler so
00:56:43
not a full profile was released but definitely some thoughts on the profile of the person responsible or thoughts
00:56:49
about this person uh and here they are captain now the good doctor states that if no one but the child's foster parents
00:56:57
and grandmother knew about the visit then the kidnapper would have to have had another reason to be there either
00:57:05
visiting living or working in the area there was only a narrow window of opportunity to take the child from
00:57:13
outside the property quote it does seem that this was an opportunistic crime and when somebody
00:57:21
makes that kind of impulsive decision mistakes are made and it's those kind of mistakes that the investigation is
00:57:29
focusing on detective Gary jubilin added the kidnapping occurred on a Friday around
00:57:36
10 30 a.m it was broad daylight and whoever abducted him risked being seen from the balcony of William's
00:57:43
grandmother's home as well as neighboring properties on September 26 2015 police confirmed that they had
00:57:52
seized a white station wagon for forensic examination from a property north of Kendall the following year on
00:58:01
September 12 2016 on the second anniversary of Williams disappearance the New South Wales government announces
00:58:09
a one million dollar reward for information on Williams whereabouts the police say that the reward will usually
00:58:16
be paid out as conditional on the arrest and conviction of the offender but the recovery of William had been added as a
00:58:25
condition on this reward it is the largest ever reward offered to find a missing person in New South Wales
00:58:33
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