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crime it's you [Music] you we are in Borman Ohio for part two of this week's True Crime Story and we
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already discussed the first two still unsolved cases the first being that of Thomas Bard who was killed in December
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of 1970 he was found badly beaten actually found by a police officer Tom was unconscious when found taken
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immediately to the hospital placed in intensive care where sadly he passes away Days Later never regaining
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Consciousness police are never able to ask him any questions about who attacked him or how he was attacked or why Brad
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Bolino was the second in this sad series he was abducted on the last day of March
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1972 and according to the coroner's report he was killed more more than 24 hours after he leaves his best friend's
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house and his body is found on April 4th 1972 there were unconfirmed sightings of
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Brad on that Saturday but police have said since that they don't believe those sightings to be accurate as they have
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information and evidence that suggest that he was held somewhere by his captor until he was killed then at some point
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the killer or Killers Place him in that trash container where he is found on April 4th the killer or Killers possibly
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I say likely Captain covering him with debris before leaving the scene now both of us have reviewed this picture and I
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want to describe this picture to the listeners what it is is we have a normal looking trash truck that comes around
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and picks up you know everybody's trash and it picks up the dumpsters and it empties the trash from these dumpsters
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right into the back of the trash truck that has the trash compactor back there so we've all seen those but this is 1972
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When Brad bolo's body is found and all the papers refer to this dumpster as a trash container which I think is much
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more fitting once you see the picture you go okay I don't know that I would call that a dumpster you know nowadays
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when we say the word dumpster you think of these very large objects I mean I'm I'm six foot one and a lot of times
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these dumpsters come up to my shoulders or you know almost my chin I guess right
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luckily I've never been in one never had to go dumpster diving but uh I'm saving
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that for my my senior years but um the uh this the glory years yes the gold years th this is a a container that is
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considerably smaller than what I would call a dumpster and you see the two officers standing next to this dumpster
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so the refuge collector he spots the boys's feet sticking out of it and goes over and tries to push them down
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thinking it's just a mannequin right because this is in a in a shopping area of town be you know normal trash store
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type trash in these in these trash containers that he's collecting and he quickly figures out no
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this is this is a body he calls the police I've seen the reports Captain I think the police were on the scene 7
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minutes after it's like six or seven minutes after he calls it in and in this picture we get a really good idea of the
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size of this trash container because we have two officers who are responding and
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they're standing next to this trash container in this picture and again you can see this picture it's pretty readily
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available on the internet but if you want a guarantee to find it go to porchlight online.org and click on news
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Facebook and Instagram yes and this is the picture that is really like now Infamous in the town of Borman this is
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one that I've heard over the years and seen discussed on message boards over the years where people will say yeah I
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grew up in the 70s in in Borman Ohio and I saw that picture this picture was in the newspaper this picture like scared
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the hell out of children and and parents of course because you you you are seeing
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the body recovery site one thing I wanted to ask you before we move on too far here get your opinion on I've always
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kind of struggled with this if I had not seen this picture and somebody told me that that boy's body was found in a
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dumpster I would tell you that I would lean on the side of two perpetrators or at least two people dumping the body to
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get it up that high and into a large dumpster this Captain it appears to me and I'm
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again I'm judging off of these two officers who appear to be average height this appears to me like this trash
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container probably comes up to their waist maybe just a little bit above their waist yeah yeah belly button or
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elbow level um the kid Brad is listed as approximately 80 pounds I've never won any strong man
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contest I don't think that's ever going to happen for me but uh you know what what do you think
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do you do you lean more towards two people obviously it would be easier for two people to put him in there but I
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don't think necessary I think even if it was a large dumpster it's not impossible
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to just say that there was one perpetrator but I think what your point is is because this one is only waste
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height that it would be pretty easy for somebody with maybe not even that much strength
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to be able to put him inside that dumpster yeah I think all you have to do is get something that's 80 lb
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unfortunately dead weight and you have to be able to get it up to probably your chest height to to put him in there and
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we don't know how he was lugged but I would imagine the way that this goes down and because this case is unsolved
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you always have to kind of look at these and go okay well why is it unsolved well
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it's unsolved because unfortunately the killer wasn't witnessed by anybody right
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the the abduction we don't know at what point Brad was intercepted between his house and home between his home and
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Dawn's house right we don't know if he willingly hitched a ride and got in the wrong car we don't know if somebody
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pulled up and had to grab him off the street or maybe two people grab him off the street all we know is that this is a
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a sexual assault homicide and involving a juvenile victim and but you you look at these
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things and go why are they unsolved okay well we we know no witness for the abduction however it happened whether no
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witness of him getting into a vehicle willingly and we also don't have we don't have a witness saying well I saw
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the the body being dumped as well so I'm picturing under the cover of Darkness middle of the night vehicle pulls up as
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close as they can to this trash container maybe they know the trash schedule or or know it Loosely If This
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Were me if I were the perpetrator and and remember we've discussed this plenty of times the the Killer's goal when you
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see a sexually related homicide the Killer's goal we don't have to get too far into that to know what it is that's
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already taken place up to this point now once the murder is committed the killer
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or Killers have a problem they have a body that that they need to get rid of I'm guessing here captain that it may be
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no coincidence that this trash is being collected that morning early morning 7:55 a.m. is when the truck pulls up to
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empty this thing and if nobody spots him in that container beforehand well he's he's off to the
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incinerator off to the landfill wherever that trash truck was going and may have
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never been discovered at all and maybe that was the Killer or Killer's intention and you pull up there the
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night before under the cover of Darkness maybe in the middle of the night one 2 three in the morning Place him in there
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and then attempt to cover him up as much as you can with some of the debris and the boxes that are already found in that
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container well I believe this case because of the time period if it would have happened if it would have happened
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in the last couple years I think this case would have been solved very quickly because like you said at some point
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unless the murderer lured him into his house or into their house that there's multiple crime scenes so there'd be
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evidence on there'd be evidence on Bradley right on his clothes there'd be fibers there would
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be and if he was placed somewhere else now look he could have been sexually assaulted and murdered within a vehicle
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and then placed in the the trunk of that vehicle and driven around for a couple days it's it's also a royal you know
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it's on the outskirts in the sense where like we said you have shopping centers and stuff
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but a couple miles down the road you can find a place to dump a body and that didn't happen here this this body was
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dumped in a trash can so again that I think that leads to your idea of the person possibly knowing trash schedule
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or it could just be as simple as I have this victim in the back of my car I got to get rid of it at some point maybe I
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go out to my car and I can really start telling that there's a dead body in my car and now I I'm panicked and I I can't
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go look in a rural area for the best dumping spot I have to now just find a place to put this victim right and it
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feels like to me it it feels like a poor choice of driving to what sounds to me to be one of the busier areas of town
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back then we should we should state that the population back then would have been
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between 30 and 35,000 people and as the captain pointed out you have this is a growing Town
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Borman is a growing town where you have parts and pieces of it that have a lot of homes and have a lot of shops and
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businesses and things like that but there are also Country Roads there are also roads where the businesses are way
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off of the way set back from the road and that's some of the spaces that had Brad made the entire trip from Don's
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house to his house that's kind of given the the landscape of what he would have traversed during that time and so it
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seems a little odd to me for someone to drive into this busy area of town to dispose of the body but I guess if you
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have a situation where for whatever reason you don't have the ability to bury because what I'm getting at is I
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feel like the killer hoping to get lucky that the trash is actually collected with with him still there is your hope
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that you're you're getting lucky and concealing the body where there's other ways and avenues of doing that but for
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whatever reason this killer or Killers just chose not to well like you said maybe this murderer knows the the trash
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schedule and and that was a part of their plan or they just know the schedule of that building I mean this is
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in the 70s a lot of these Town shut down by 10:00 at night no restaurants would be
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open may maybe most of the bars would have been closed by that point there might not have been much of a nightlife
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for this town in the 70s the third victim in this series takes us to January 1975 this is when another boy aged 13 he
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goes missing on Friday January 17th 1975 this is David Evans this was a great little kid I know
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they they all are and I'm not picking a favorite here Captain but I very much enjoyed reading about David Evans who he
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was how he was in a lot of ways he was very much a lot like Brad and probably a lot like the other boys that were 12 or
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13 years old growing up in bourman Ohio in the early to mid 70s David went to Borman Center Middle School the same as
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Brad he played in the band he got good grades he didn't have a ton of friends David was not extremely outgoing or
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quite as adventurous as Brad is record because he played the piccolo I I wanted for you being the musician I wanted to
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find what instrument he played and I I could not find that well it's the piccolo and that's why he didn't have a
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lot of friends David is said by most or all that I could find anyway to be more reserved more like to sit back observe
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and study people rather than just to dive into situations David like Brad was a little
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smaller for his age but David was a mighty little man this kid had the will and determination to overcome the
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obstacles of Life David was born with what all of the reports are calling a narrow left hand so this is a hand that
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for whatever scientific biological reason never fully formed before his birth so his left hand was a
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thumb and two fingers however David never let this minor issue set him back in any way
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David just like Brad played baseball and as we all can imagine any game where one
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will be catching throwing and batting will well could get quite difficult for David situation well and maybe not so
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hard once that fingers and and hand that you do have grows to full size but especially when you're a kid you know
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throwing a baseball or throwing a football when you're a kid with small hands is it's hard enough let alone to
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only have half of a hand I'm sure there were even those at the time that thought
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maybe David would never be able to participate in certain Sports because of the situation but not this kid Captain
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David's father would later tell the papers that David spent most of one entire summer when he was off from
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school learning to play with this added difficulty so this kid I'm sure with a little help with you know from his
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parents siblings and and Friends taught himself to play ball so that he could go
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and sign up and play baseball with this uh added difficulty yeah and again with this U
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handicap it would make playing certain instruments a lot more difficult and he wasn't obviously afraid of doing that he
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wasn't going to let it set him back he was going to do the things that he wanted he was going to to try to do the
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things that he thought would bring him enjoyment and it seems like he was very successful with that and that's one
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thing that kind of it was inspirational to read about that and and really makes this story even sadder now oddly enough
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here's another little nugget to this story that is just one of those haunting parts of a story that really just kind
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of sticks with you this is something that Having learned this I will not be able to shake this from memory when it
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comes to David Evans case as far as all of the reports go and I'm GNA say this twice because it
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might take a second to set set in here David was last seen by his own father in passing okay so David was last seen by
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his own father in passing the way that this works is is just like this so David was last seen at 6:00
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p.m. by his father in their own neighborhood at the intersection of Stillson place and Wither's drive this
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is just about two dozen houses away from his own so roughly 25 houses away from where he
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lived is the last place that anyone has ever reported to have seen this boy Alive Now what's weird about this so
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David is is walking home he's he's returning home he went to Borman Lake apparently he had been checking on
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the lake from time to time to see if it had frozen over so he could skate on it well he went and checked that day and
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it's my understanding captain that he did not bring ice skates with him he was going to check to see if it would be
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thick enough to skate on at some point right he goes to the lake he finds that no the the ice is still not thick enough
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and so he's returning home and now we know this because he happens to bump into his father his father's driving out
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of the neighborhood leaving his father was attending night classes at Youngstown
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University so at this intersection you know he sees his boy rolls down the window David walks over and talks to him
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for a little bit tells him he went to the lake the ice isn't thick enough dad says heyy I I'm going to my night class
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are you going home yes I'm going home okay I'll see you when I get back well that's ends up not being the
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case unfortunately David's father returns home from his class and finds that David is not at their house
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David never made it home that evening well like you said it's 10 10 12 houses away it's it's it's about two dozen hous
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from from his his home so it's very very close this this boy is almost home yeah
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he's minutes from being at his house you know Threat Level Midnight at this point
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exactly so of course the Evans Family they immediately jump into search mode so it's not a long period of time for
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his night class so David not being there is not no alarm arm bells are going off until the father returns and
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says wait a minute I saw him on my way to my class an hour and a half ago and he was
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very close to home telling me that he was next stop was home right I'm going home Dad the first thing that they do
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they're in search mode they call the high school which was hosting a basketball game that night they wanted
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to see well maybe did he bump into a friend and they decided to walk to the high school and watched the basketball
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game or maybe he had a change of heart and went to the basketball game himself they very quickly confirm with teachers
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there that no David is not at the high school nobody saw him there that night at the basketball game they call his
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friends to no avail now the scary part is when they start calling hospitals looking for their son to see if maybe he
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was involved in some kind of accident and no they still know David so very soon after taking these calls and doing
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a little bit of searching themselves they call the Boardman police department they tell them that their 13-year-old
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son David Evans did not return home earlier that night they told police David was 4 foot 10 Ines tall this is
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going to sound almost like I'm reading the same description of the Bolino kid that we talked about in yesterday's
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episode David Evans was 4' 10 in tall about 80 lbs he has medium length blonde hair brown eyes he had Scar Tissue on
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his left eye this was from an operation that he had at some point he had the narrow left hand that we discussed they
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said that he was wearing a blue plaid jacket with some red in it it had fleece lining and a fleece collar he was
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wearing suede ankle high shoes a maroon and blue sweatshirt blue jeans and most likely his medical ID so David was
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diabetic would often wear a medical ID to tell anybody should you find me and I'm not awake I'm unconscious I have
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diabetes all right so what I see here Captain is a case that appears to be you know it's it's a couple years later but
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it appears to be very much like the Brad Bolino case and again victimology victimology is almost the same almost
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the same kid and uh like you said height weight and also just the circumstances yes it's it's getting dark and the kid
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is returning back to his home on foot Friday nights too I believe both of these are on Friday nights and they're
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both Friday evenings and really if if Brad is abducted after 7:30 and he was in fact in route to his
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own house that Trek could only have taken him at at the longest what 45 minutes an hour so he should have been
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home by 8:30ish yes and I know I know these are kids that are given the time so we don't
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have you know Don always says it was about 7:30 so 8:39 he should have been home David Evans spotted by his father
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at six o'clock we're getting a good time from David Evans father because David Evans father has an appointment to make
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to he doesn't want to be late for his own class so he knows I saw my son and and he's going to give us a very
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accurate time frame of 6 pm. and and again as you pointed out he's he's just blocks from his house he's just blocks
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from his house at this a couple differences right away though is is in Bradley's case we he could have had a
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distance to get to to go home yeah making it easier to want to hitch a ride from somebody yep as far as David's case
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he was you know like you said 20 some houses from his his house I wouldn't assume that some would jump in a car the
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major differences here are a few and and you got into some of those some additional information here as we said
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David is diabetic from my understanding David required an insulin shot I believe
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it was roughly like every 12 hours so he would have been due for his next insulin shot the next morning at
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7:30 around breakfast time so the the major scary part here for the family is this is not a situation
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where okay he might turn up tomorrow but if he doesn't uh in a couple days he'll
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turn up no this is this kid needs his shot or bad stuff is going to start happening right and so with Brad with
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his case we got this adventurous kid maybe hitchhikes rides David is much more reserved everybody said there's no
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way this kid would have gotten into anybody's car willingly he wouldn't even approach the vehicle and talk to the
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person so a little bit difference in personality and then of course the medical issues with David and then
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there's this scary scary fact and oh my God if if I if this is the knife in the heart if
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you're a parent with a kid who's only been missing a short period of time at 11:30 pm that night
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David's hat that he was wearing he was wearing a red knit hat was found at Stillson place in withers's drive that
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intersection the same intersection that his dad last saw him and this hat is confirmed by the parents to be that of
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their sons David Evans they said that the police said that snow was trampled in about a three-
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foot circle around this hat this to me points to an obvious Abdu [Music] it's you
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[Music] all right we are back cheers everybody cheers to you Captain hope everybody's
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having a good week and we're finding you well and let's get back to our True Crime Story before we jump back in here
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Captain I want to shift gears just very briefly because there's something that I
00:31:30
wanted to test out here on our show you know you and I and the garage listeners we understand that this show and
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listening to the show being a part of the garage group is more more than just about this it's about trying to do some
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good along the way I wanted to try a little experiment and I'm hoping that the listeners will join in and help us
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with this we are very lucky to have a a great audience a lot of listeners people
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that are very engaged and people that want to make good change themselves and when we've covered cases it's very
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common I'm going to peel back the curtain here and let the listeners take a look behind the scenes for a minute
00:32:14
but very often when we cover a case we usually will get some information in the case you know we've we've seen this with
00:32:22
missing persons cases we've seen it with unidentified remains cases we've also seen it with uh cases that there are
00:32:31
suspects and information that's still needed and cold cases where we received some information or we have been told
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hey when you guys covered this we received a few tips now I wanted to see if we could turn this into a bit of a
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crowdsourcing technique and see if this works because we have such a great audience all over the world and a very
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engaged audience I wanted to see if we could pull something off and I know that the Delaware County Sheriff's office
00:33:05
they have an outstanding warrant for a man named Thomas Blankenship and I'll give a brief description of him here but
00:33:12
we'll put a picture up on our social I want everybody to to send this out to everybody to retweet it to send it to
00:33:21
other people to see if we could track down somebody that law enforcement is looking for he's described as 6'2 175 lb
00:33:29
gray hair brown eyes and he is again wanted by Delaware County Sheriff's Office which is in central Ohio but he
00:33:39
has ties to West Virginia and really ties to all kinds of cities in the great state of Ohio but that doesn't mean that
00:33:47
he is in any of those locations so share his picture share his information and let's see if we can get a tip on his
00:33:54
location and his whereabouts so that he can be arrested and that warrant can be served now we were talking about this
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David Evans case and how immediately to me Captain his hat being found kind of trampled in the snow at that
00:34:13
intersection looks to me like we always talk about there was somebody was killed
00:34:17
in their home there was no sign of a struggle or no sign of a Breakin this to me is sign of an abduction because it's
00:34:24
sign of a struggle right there in the streets where somebody probably pulled up maybe one or two persons they have a
00:34:31
confrontation with this boy and grab him and put him in their car you know we have we have his family we have his
00:34:40
teachers we have his coaches that are saying David was shy and reserved especially with strangers his parents
00:34:47
said they didn't think they that he would willingly go off with a stranger he's not the type to Hitch rides he's
00:34:54
shy reserved again this is echoed by everybody that knew David his teachers and his baseball coach and the hat
00:35:01
trampled in the snow points to a sign of a struggle and then an abduction right there in the street again a difficult
00:35:09
situation because you just saw your son within the last couple hours then you go
00:35:15
back and you're retracing his steps at least the steps that you know and and pretty quickly you find like you said a
00:35:22
sign of a struggle or at least a sign of something's not right here yeah that something that something happened I mean
00:35:31
you heard the initial suspicions that the parents had that maybe he went elsewhere went to the high school
00:35:37
basketball game and they checked and called friends and called the high school and you're you're being told no
00:35:44
over the phone but you're still hopeful and then you find his hat right trampled
00:35:50
in the snow and now that like confirms that oh we might be looking for him in the wrong places because he probably
00:35:59
didn't go somewhere willingly now I want to talk about the the police work that was conducted in the search for David
00:36:06
Evans the Boardman Police Department did a great job I mean these cases we say that they're unsolved and it's all these
00:36:15
years later but from everything I have seen captain and everybody that I've spoke to these cases are not unsolved
00:36:22
because of a lack of effort by the Boardman police department now they brought in
00:36:29
everybody that they could think of and and went to every they they went to every effort to try to locate these kids
00:36:36
in David Evans case for six days we got volunteers we got law enforcement searching for David on the ground they
00:36:43
even brought in a helicopter from the National Guard to try to help search and find David Evans the retired Boardman
00:36:53
police chief Glenn Bowers was in and remembers overlooking the snow in Borman Park and parts of mil Creek Park the
00:37:03
Borman police really worked this missing case well as I said they did All the Right Stuff calling on other agencies at
00:37:11
one point Captain they will even seek the help of the FBI now the FBI kind of denies this request and I say kind of
00:37:22
because while they didn't put any agents they didn't dedicate any agents to the case they did say you know if you need
00:37:31
our crime Labs or you need use of some of the resources that we have that you don't we are happy to help you just you
00:37:39
know send us your stuff and we we can test it we can help analyze anything that you want but they never dedicated
00:37:45
an agent to the case and I believe they were from what I've been told and what it looks like to me they requested the
00:37:53
FBI's help several times so that's why I say that these cases don't remain unsolved due to a lack of effort and
00:38:03
this is not a situation where we have a police department that's going no we don't worry we can handle this right uh
00:38:10
no they're saying yes please anybody that wants to help we will accept your help let's let's band together and find
00:38:16
out who who did this well I wish uh because like you said this is a community that's under 40,000 people so
00:38:25
it's just it's not that these people it's not that law enforcement in these areas are incompetent they're just
00:38:31
inexperienced with some of these things and even though this is there's a trend now going in their Community even more
00:38:39
of a reason to reach out for outside sources and and for to connect with other law enforcement agents that have
00:38:47
been through this process multiple times and just again not not better Just more
00:38:52
experienced and that's exactly right and what we've seen here too that I want to
00:38:59
go into the kind of the thoroughness of the Boardman police department and in their efforts to find David Evans so
00:39:08
I've seen documentation that the Boardman police officers were actively calling the high school and the
00:39:16
hospitals and other people it this after being told by the parents we've already
00:39:21
called you know those locations and they're saying no that's cool we're going to call them as well they
00:39:27
immediately called the state highway Troopers notifying them to be on the lookout for this missing boy and they
00:39:33
called surrounding jurisdictions and agencies as well to be on the lookout for this boy so if somebody was
00:39:39
transporting him somewhere or by chance if he had run away for some reason that maybe he would be spotted elsewhere now
00:39:48
David Evans case is different from Brad's um in the sense that Brad's had a lot of confirmed sightings that again
00:39:58
now we believe to be inaccurate based off of what the police have said about the investigation about their case David
00:40:05
Evans was was not the same way there there was one or two situations where somebody called in and said I might have
00:40:13
seen the Evans boy or this person might have information on the Evans boy now one thing that the police did and did
00:40:20
very well in this case too is they canvased the area the neighborhood because we have a crime scene that is
00:40:26
much smaller to work with than the potential abduction scene of Bradley Bolino right we have that intersection
00:40:34
where his father says I saw him there spoke to him there at 6: p.m is and in that same intersection near
00:40:41
that same intersection his hat is found so police canvased that neighborhood David evans's own neighborhood knocking
00:40:49
on doors and they took notes on every address you know who lived there if they did talk to somebody if they saw
00:40:56
anything if they heard anything most of the people really didn't see anything or
00:40:59
hear anything there were a few people that said I think I might have saw something but at the time didn't know if
00:41:05
it was anything the the best possible piece of information was somebody having seen a vehicle where they thought that
00:41:13
they saw a struggle between two people and the the problem with this this witness statement is it was actually two
00:41:21
witnesses that gave different statements it was a husband and wife that were returning home and they lived near that
00:41:29
intersection and they happened to be returning home roughly about the time that it would be believed that that
00:41:36
David was abducted he's last seen by his father talks to his father he's only 20
00:41:40
some houses away from his his destination yeah so we're talking about a very small time period of in which
00:41:48
something bad could have happened right and so this husband and wife again they have different stories of the same story
00:41:56
and it's not that it's not that either not to be believed it's just these are normal people going about their everyday
00:42:05
lives and they're W they're witnessing something that is only important later when you know that a child has gone
00:42:12
missing it's not important at the time and there was obviously nothing alarming enough about it for either of them to
00:42:18
take notice from the report I have read obviously one of this married couple was
00:42:24
driving the other was in the passenger SE and they had varying stories and these stories varied simply because the
00:42:31
person driving said yeah I thought I saw this but keep in mind I was paying much
00:42:36
more attention to the road and where I was going I wasn't looking all around or paying attention to what might be going
00:42:42
on with with uh pedestrians so some information unfortunately it doesn't help the police
00:42:50
too much because it's it's very vague information and it's a little unconfirmed when we have two people
00:42:55
saying that they saw slightly different uh things now this too like Brad's case was well reported in the newspapers at
00:43:06
the time The Vindicator covered this case and interviewed the police and family daily uh and continued to after
00:43:16
after his body was found and unfortunately he's he goes missing he's reported missing late on the 17th of
00:43:24
January and one thing we got to keep in mind too not only is this kid diabetic so you're scared of that we talked about
00:43:31
there being snow on the ground it's it's freaking cold out there right as a parent you're like my God my kids out
00:43:38
there missing and it's freezing so he's found his body is found January 23d 1975 basically David is missing for six
00:43:49
days before he's found yes last sighting at 6:00 and oddly enough he's found in the evening hour hours of the 23rd and
00:43:58
what's really weird about that too being found on the 23rd and we'll get into that information but you know we talked
00:44:06
about the FBI trying to get the FBI involved there was a call so at 1:10 p.m. on the 23rd this is the same day
00:44:16
that his body would later be found a man called the the police department and spoke to the
00:44:24
dispatcher and it was a very short call all the man said was do you want the Evans boy don't
00:44:33
hunt now this is 1975 so my guess here Captain is that that this may not have been recorded and this is just the
00:44:42
dispatcher taking a note and then typing up a report immediately afterwards but according to the dispatcher the caller
00:44:48
was a male caller and the caller said do you want the Evans boy don't hunt and then the call caller hung up the phone
00:44:57
I'm only bringing that up because I'm hoping somebody can tell me what to make of it I don't know I don't know how to
00:45:03
take that the best way that I can take that is that I know in other cases that we've covered that there have been phone
00:45:11
calls received or letters sent that later were confirmed to be just a complete hoax that had nothing to do
00:45:18
with the actual case when the case is solved but this to me almost like I thought when I first found this
00:45:23
information oh maybe we're getting some kind of Ransom request but it's such a short conversation and then again the
00:45:31
odd thing is the boy's body is found just hours later yeah when you get the call initially like you said don't hunt
00:45:38
what's that mean does that mean don't go looking for the child in in in rural areas does it mean that he's going to be
00:45:45
in the city somewhere or is this a setup call to set up some kind of negotiation
00:45:51
for a ransom but then like you said David's found a few hours after this phone call the other thing that's an
00:45:57
interesting thought on this phone call too here Captain is that the evans's family and this was not made
00:46:07
clear while he was still missing I believe this information only came out in the papers after his body was
00:46:15
recovered but his family had said that they were receiving strange phone calls before he even went missing that they
00:46:23
were getting uh hang-up calls which again could have everything to do with the case or could mean absolutely
00:46:30
nothing at all it's just it's too difficult to decipher well it's tough too when you have kids of this age this
00:46:36
is the perfect age where kids are playing around on the phone or when you called your buddy I I I had I had
00:46:43
several friends that I would call and if their their dad answer the phone I'm hanging up because he was mean and scary
00:46:50
you know if the mom if the mom answered the phone it was like Hey is Tommy there
00:46:55
you know you know anytime when you hear phone calls you know or or suspicious phone calls it it makes a juicier story
00:47:04
but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with these kids going missing right and it was the 70s and you know I'm I'm
00:47:11
not proud of this but uh you know me and my buddies used to hear people make prank phone calls on the radio and we
00:47:18
thought it was hilarious and we would try to do our own which were not very funny at all to be honest with you but
00:47:24
mine were great were fantastic we should have recorded those um it was illegal to
00:47:30
right right his his body unfortunately was found roughly at 5:00 pm. on January 23rd 1975 so the body is spotted by Hugh
00:47:40
McCall he's a realtor and he is his company is at 12 Boardman Poland Road this is not terribly far away from where
00:47:53
bolo's body was recovered again this is more in the businesse area of Boardman where both bodies are recovered now mind
00:48:03
you yes it's almost three years later but so the way that this works Captain is Mr
00:48:12
McCall he's at work all day at this location at his you know reality firm and him and his wife are getting ready
00:48:20
to leave his wife works for him or works with him there and they're getting ready
00:48:26
to leave and while they're leaving he's spots something in the bushes or as he puts it
00:48:36
in the bushes and when he goes over to look and investigate to see what it is unfortunately it turns out to be David
00:48:44
Evans which makes you wonder if if the call saying don't hunt means the kid is going to be found
00:48:52
within the city that's what I was trying to think think about there that that maybe there is some that there's
00:49:00
something going on with that call because he was found so close to to the time the same time frame but
00:49:07
so McCall calls the police right away and he says I think I found the boy that you are looking for so obviously he
00:49:16
knows what he's seeing he knows he we have a body here and he's phoning it into police and the dis or hands the
00:49:26
phone to the detective because this is what everybody at the police department has been working on for six straight
00:49:32
days right so this is as you pointed out Threat Level Midnight right everything's
00:49:38
extremely important here and now this is this is the biggest call well more so in
00:49:42
this case because like we said there was there was another case before this that
00:49:48
yes so the cops look the the Thomas case the Bradley case and the David case are
00:49:56
probably the three biggest cases in that you know time period that have ever happened to this small law enforcement
00:50:05
department yeah and you have a lot of these guys a lot of the officers and and the you know the men and women of the
00:50:12
Boardman Police Department have all worked now now they're sitting there going I'm [ __ ] and
00:50:20
in the course of five years I'm working my my third child homicide side case I mean so these guys in in the women of
00:50:28
Boardman police department they don't forget this stuff and so they they know the severity of it I could only imagine
00:50:35
the stress that it put on on these good people who are trying to do everything that they can to return these children
00:50:43
alive first of all and then if if need be bring some justice for the victim and the victim's family so
00:50:54
the dispatcher hands the phone to the detective it's detective belog who's working this case he there's two or
00:51:02
three that worked this case really really hard here over the course of a couple of years the the early parts of
00:51:10
the investigation and then obviously uh would have been replaced at some point but the detective gets on the phone and
00:51:16
says would you repeat what you just said and Mr McCall repeated I think I found the missing boy that you are looking for
00:51:25
and Mr Mcall goes on to say he is behind the famous recipe fried chicken restaurant on Route 224 so Mr McCall was
00:51:34
asked to give his location and his telephone number which he does he gives his business location he was told to
00:51:40
wait there for the police wait behind the famous recipe fried chicken building now his wife while he's you know this is
00:51:49
1975 so he's he has to run into his business to make this phone call to police his wife thoughtyou know what well
00:51:58
somebody should watch over the scene until either my husband returns to watch over it or the police arrive on the
00:52:06
scene very smart and good by her she says that she went over and stood there and and try to watch over the scene but
00:52:14
at some point she she couldn't do it it it at some point it it broke her down and she had to to leave so she's still
00:52:22
there but but not directly at the scene and the police are there very very quickly they basically find David
00:52:31
Evans Frozen there at the scene remember we talked about it being cold he's been
00:52:38
gone for six days and everything that I've reviewed Captain it it seems very difficult and
00:52:44
I've not seen anybody report when they think he was placed there I do know that Mr McCall and his wife both said the
00:52:53
same thing that obviously we didn't notice him there until till we called it in or we would have went over
00:53:01
and checked before and called it in and these two are going in and out of work each day so there's a lot of reason to
00:53:08
believe that well hold on because they're real estate agents right yeah they're going in and out of their
00:53:14
building probably more than most people because they're part of their job is to leave their office and to show people
00:53:21
houses unless they're bad at their job right they're not staying busy but again smart dumping spot because the person
00:53:31
wouldn't be constantly within their office and if you knew the vehicles that were SPO uh if you knew the vehicles
00:53:39
that were connected to that building and you knew that the vehicles were gone then you would know when there was a
00:53:46
good opportunity to leave a victim behind and one thing I do not like and I'm I'm not happy to report this to the
00:53:54
garage listeners because I do not have a good understanding on how this on where he was found so I don't
00:54:04
have a good understanding on what kind of landscaping we have here because in some reports it's stated as he's found
00:54:11
near an embankment or having been thrown over some type of embankment and then other Reports say just like the one we
00:54:20
reported where he's found behind some Bush bushes now could the bushes in the embankment all be the same location yes
00:54:27
right I don't have a picture of it from 1975 to tell you what exactly it looks like all I can do is go off of words
00:54:34
from people that are not here to tell me what it looked like what else do we know
00:54:39
about David when he was found you said he was frozen yes he was frozen so the way that this has been reported is that
00:54:46
what the malls say that they saw when they were getting into their car was that they saw a knee sticking up in the
00:54:53
snow in the bushes that's why they go over to investigate it's not just that they saw some random thing they saw what
00:55:00
looked to be a person or part of a person so they see this knee sticking up in the snow in the bushes the newspaper
00:55:08
reported that David's body he was found when he was found he was on his back with one knee bent and one leg straight
00:55:16
his hands were on his chest his clothing was pulled up to about the neck area but they believe police believe
00:55:25
that this is because he was dragged so that somebody pulled up and when they were disposing of the body they got him
00:55:32
out of their vehicle and then then had to drag him along the way so I guess if you're being drugged by your feet it
00:55:41
would naturally push your your shirt up as you're being dragged along the ground
00:55:46
right the coroner told the newspaper that an x-ray showed that David's left wrist had been broken
00:55:56
and that there was and I I want to clarify on this his words to the newspaper is that there was a half inch
00:56:04
in diameter by half inch deep perfectly round puncture wound that was found on David evans's back this would be roughly
00:56:15
about 3 in above the Belt Line and it's not directly in the center of the back the way that it looks to me Captain that
00:56:22
this would be a little bit to the right and they don't seem to understand what could have caused that
00:56:32
hole and I I do want to report here that this report is probably the most accurate because this is the coroner
00:56:39
saying it's a half inch in diameter and a half inch deep but I've also seen this
00:56:43
reported as big as 1 inch in diameter and one inch deep and as small as a quar inch in diameter and a quarter inch deep
00:56:52
so a little inconclusive on the exact size of that but the interesting thing here is we're
00:56:59
told per the coroner that the rist he could confirm that the wrist was broken after the boy's death they didn't know
00:57:08
exactly what caused this puncture wound or this hole but what they could say is that it didn't come from a knife and it
00:57:16
didn't come from a bullet I guess the other thing that we should clear up here too is they go on to say that it did not
00:57:22
it was not consistent with an insulin injection as well so unfortunately we know that David Evans
00:57:32
is diabetic the cause of death was determined to be a diabetic coma right this is going to cause a lot of problems
00:57:42
for the investigation in in my opinion and from what I've seen that has taken place over the years so because he dies
00:57:52
of you know I guess natural causes this diabetic coma there there becomes a debate if
00:57:59
this is a homicide or not well like you said we have three three young boys that
00:58:07
go missing that are found all three looks like some version of homicide like you said you could
00:58:17
debate this about David's where to me it leans more so that this is a homicide is
00:58:24
because we almost have a secondary crime scene with some kind of struggle and he he's obviously he taken
00:58:34
away from where he was heading to or him not ending up at his house to me means that this is a crime and you are
00:58:46
spot on my friend and I'll tell you what and that's why I'm giving mad Kudos and
00:58:51
props to the Boardman Police Department because again we've seen this situation where a
00:58:58
coroner an autopsy is conducted and we have someone who rules an OD or uh or an accidental death or in this case a a
00:59:10
diabetic coma and then the police department in that area just doesn't do anything with it because yeah and was
00:59:18
there any sign of sexual assault no here there is no sign of sexual assault which
00:59:22
or no obvious signs of sexual assault Accord in to the coroner and that I think further complicates the case now
00:59:28
kudos to the Boardman Police Department because they go okay well this is this is a suspicious death you know and
00:59:35
that's how we're going to treat this going forward we can't we don't have the coroner backing us up saying that this
00:59:41
was a homicide but we can say given the evidence that we have that we believe it
00:59:47
to be a suspicious death and they they treated it as such so they didn't just close up shop once he was found they
00:59:53
continued to investigate this for years and did a lot of really good boots on the ground work and you even have the
01:00:02
the the police officers and detectives who have come out and they said no look this is why it was a homicide right and
01:00:10
we believe that this was an abduction because as you pointed out the kid said he was going home he was very close to
01:00:16
his home when he said he was going home his hat is found in the snow his hat is found in the snow trampled so obvious
01:00:23
signs of a struggle probably somebody grabbed him off the streets put him in their vehicle and then here's the other
01:00:29
thing he's not just going to die of a diabetic coma as soon as he's you know at at 6:01 p.m. right after his dad
01:00:37
finds him or talks to him no he didn't need that insulin shot until 7:30 a.m. the next morning so he's not going to
01:00:45
start to get into trouble with that until the next morning so again somebody kept this kid kept him where I don't
01:00:53
know but the other thing they were able to determine was the the contents of his stomach the
01:01:01
contents found in his stomach did not match up with what was known to be his last meal so signs of a struggle in the
01:01:08
street he obviously was somewhere for a long period of time before his diabetes took
01:01:15
over and he ate a meal and it's it's reported to be a a considerably large meal so he was fed something or ate
01:01:25
somewhere and the police have gone on to say look the broken wrist this took place after he died he didn't just sneak
01:01:34
off in the middle of the night hang out somewhere all night long even though he knew that he needed an insulin shot eat
01:01:40
a meal somewhere and then decide to curl up in the snow Behind These bushes and die and then break his own
01:01:48
wrist afterwards you know so they're they're pointing out that there's obvious signs
01:01:53
to see seasoned detectives and seasoned police officers that are saying we have signs that are pointing to not only an
01:02:00
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01:02:28
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01:02:36
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