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true [Music] crime back in June of 1979 Kimberly niece borrowed her father's pickup truck
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to go to town on a Friday night she was seen cruising the drag and popper Montana several hours before her body
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was discovered in episode one we went through in detail the tragic and brutal murder of a promising young woman and
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the bungled crime scene investigation that followed but then police almost out of nowhere get someone who confesses to
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killing Kimberly niece this is 3 and 1/2 years after the murder and what is even
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more strange the confession comes from all the way down in Monroe Louisiana in January of 1983 our old pal
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Berry Beach he's down there at the police station in Monroe Louisiana he was originally brought in for some kind
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of minor offense but the result is he confesses to killing Kimberly niece plus three other
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people during the 3 and 1/2 years between when k umly was killed and Barry was arrested Barry Beach was bouncing
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back and forth between Montana and Louisiana while down there his father's wife so his stepmother calls in a
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complaint to the law enforcement agency down there she says Barry was assisting his stepsister and her friends in
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running away from home and possibly skipping school so he's picked up for contributing to
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the delinquency of a minor during this time period though the main concern of the police down there is a Serial
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murderer who is on the loose and killing women in the area two women and a girl were killed and they had just put
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together a task force to hunt down this killer now we got to keep in mind what is going on in the world at this very
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moment remember up the road Road from Louisiana from 1979 to 1981 Wayne Williams was killing kids in
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Atlanta Georgia he's convicted of two suspected of maybe 25 and well I believe Wayne Williams
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killed 15 or 16 of those people in my humble garage opinion now these three murders in Louisiana started up in
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August of 1980 and there's another murder in April of ' 81 and then again in February of
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1982 Wayne Williams was on trial in Georgia at this time at the time of the third murder police formed a task force
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and the phrase another Atlanta became common discussion Around Town Police announced that the murders were
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connected but were tight lipped otherwise after the third murder even police and detectives were now saying
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publicly I think we may have another Atlanta on our hands mhm so Captain police likely are telling Beach's
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stepmother look lady we'll write this guy a ticket and move on because we have a serial killer here and we've got
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bigger fish to fry mhm and Beach's stepmother because she is just such a nice and helpful person tells
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police well that's interesting because Barry was questioned a couple of times about a murder of a 17-year-old girl
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back in his hometown before he moved here well I mean look he did come home covered in blood the night a girl was
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murdered in his very small town can we agree it's a questionable statement we have an officer who says he took a
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statement from a woman who says my teenage son was covered in blood yet there's no
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record of that statement anywhere other than this guy's this guy saying he took that statement and the mother saying I
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never gave that statement right so it's a little it's a little dicey on if it were if it's true or not but but yeah I
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hear you out I hear you so now police are like oh right this guy he's questioned back in his tiny
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little town of popper and then he moves here and now all of a sudden we've got three murdered females and we know he's
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a real son of a [Music] beach shout out to Howard Stern there and it turns out one of the women
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murdered in Louisiana well there's some connection between her and Barry they knew each
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other the Sheriff's Office contacted the Roosevelt County Sheriff's Office back in Montana and confirmed that beach was
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in fact a Bonafide suspect in that unsolved murder the unsolved murder of Kimberly
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niece with Roosevelt County's blessing the sheriff's office down in in Louisiana we have Sergeant Jay vaia and
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Commander Alf and Commander Alfred Calhoun they questioned beach at the Sheriff's Office several different times
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for several hours each time Beach initially denied killing n and he denied any involvement in the three Louisiana
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murders as well I really don't like when they're questioning for lengthy periods
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I think we've seen that time and time again go go wrong yeah and but what we're going to
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end up getting is a confession on several different levels here as said he will eventually confess to
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killing the three Louisiana victims and confess to killing Kimberly niece as well I want to just focus on the portion
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of the Kimberly nie case before things I don't want things to get too convoluted
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right we got to be able to to to walk through this and follow it as clear as possible Barry Beach's confession to the
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killing of Kimberly niece basically goes like this he was partying with his two friends in a place called Sandy Beach on
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the afternoon of June 15th 1979 this is when Beach said he got his car stuck in the sand then he ruined his
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transmission TR trying to get it out in a fit of anger he yells at his friends he ends up punching the vehicle and
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about at about 4:30 p.m. he left his friends and walked back to town there he asked a couple of friends
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to drive him home the first people that he asked well they turned him down the second car that he asked they actually
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drove him home once he got home he says that he took a nap and didn't wake up until sometime after it was already
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ready dark when he did wake up he got dressed and he walked into town and he says that
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he saw Kim sitting alone in her truck at the Exxon gas station MH Barry Beach asked Kim if she knew where her sister
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Pam was remember he was kind of dating Pam at the time she says I I I don't know what
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answer she she gives to this question it's not clear in the statements that he provided to police but the result is he
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ends up asking Kim if he could ride with her ride around town and hang out with her
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mhm he says that she agreed to this so they drove around aimlessly around the tiny little town of
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popler for a while before parking at the train bridge and this is where Kim's vehicle the truck would later be found
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mhm Kim and Barry sat in her truck according to Barry talking for some time talking about the
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normal kid crap right talking about high school Kim going off to college after the summer Pam and Barry's relationship
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and Kim and Greg's relationship normal stuff eventually after some beers they smoke a joint and continue
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talking Barry steers the conversation away from Pam and him to maybe something with Kim and him Kim doesn't seem to
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like this idea Barry tells her he wants to have sex with her she turns him down he tries to touch her she
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pushes him away he tries to kiss her she pushes him away and tells him to get out
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of the truck Barry calms her down and offers to smoke some more weed with her he says in
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his confession he thought if she got a little messed up she might change her mind
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yeah after joint number two Barry is going to give it another shot and of course he shot down and this time Kim is
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having no more of his Shenanigans no more of his rude aggressive behavior and as he tries to touch her
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again he this this again after she has refused all of his advances she smacks him Barry says he smacks her back the
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detective inquires further did you smack her with your hand or your fist Barry says with his
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fist so he describes this as if maybe one could believe it's some kind of I don't know maybe some kind of fight or
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even even if just briefly some kind of fight and we know that he certainly is going to have the upper hand here he's
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using his fist and then he does this this weird thing of still making these advances to her at some point he says he
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saw a crescent wrench on the floorboard inside the truck he picks it up he hits Kim several times with it Kim tries to
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escape out the driver's side right so you're you're saying that he's claiming I I tried to make these
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advancements uh towards her she didn't respond then I tried to get her more drunk and high maybe then she would
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respond to my advances she didn't uh then she physically attacked me so then I attacked her but then he continued to
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make advances after he punched her this is according to the confession that that uh that is had in
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this case he says that he saw that crescent wrench on the floorboard inside the truck he picked it up and hit Kim
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several times with with it he said that she tried to escape out the driver's side of the vehicle Barry got out he
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runs around to her and he pins her up against the side of the truck he says he tries to kiss her again
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and this is when she scratched him well at this point he's he's trying to rape her well that's right and and you know I
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said this weird thing of hey he's physically abusing her but then still tries these sexual advances M and I I
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say that that's a weird thing but you got to keep in mind that a lot of experts say that rape is more about
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power and control than the actual intercourse itself Barry keeps going back to trying to kiss her because in
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his PE brain he believes at some point she may comply he hits her to get what he wants this makes him feel powerful
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she does what he wants even if forced to do so this gives him a sense of control
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and in turn again having control or being in control this makes him this makes his weak-minded
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attack feel like like he's some kind of powerful man Barry says at some point he did
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choke Kim this seems to be rather brief because he then grabs a tire iron from the bed of the truck and he started
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beating her in the head with it and eventually she stops moving so we have an attack with the crescent wrench his
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fist that started inside the the truck no no doubt and then we have this tire iron that would been used outside of the
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the truck yeah after she stops moving he realized that he killed her he says that he
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started to panic he decided that he needed to get rid of the evidence he found a large garbage bag in the truck
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and tried to put Kim in this garbage bag she only partially fit in the bag so he
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dragged her over to the river and pushed her in mhm he then took the keys from the truck the crescent wrench and the
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tire iron and tossed them into the river as well he says he used his shirt to try
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to wipe off fingerprints in and around the truck Barry then his goal was to go home
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to run home but he's covered in blood so he says that he stripped down to his underwear wiped the blood off his body
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as best as he could he burns his clothes in a railroad car that parked on the tracks MH he ran the
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rest of the way home wash the remaining blood off and then he goes to sleep the whole time trying to convince himself
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that none of this really happened well but so we we can also assume that maybe that his mother seeing
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him covered in blood actually did happen or are we just thinking that that's still I don't know rumor I don't
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know what to think I wish that there was some actual report of that statement that the officer says that that he got
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from his mother is that the end end of his confession that's basically the end of his confession yes he I mean the
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thing that I find interesting here is it matches up pretty nice with the evidence
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and it matches up pretty nice with the things and the items at the crime scene mhm the crescent wrench but it's such a
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small town that you would think that he would have known possibly about that uh tire iron something you find on
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a vehicle so you know it's not that far fetch for somebody to come up with that that idea
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well that's what's going to be at the Crux of this whole argument and at the center of this whole
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case against Mr Barry Beach because the people against Barry Beach will say look how much of the confession
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lines up with what we know went down that night we know she was at the Exxon gas station he says he saw her there and
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that's where he got in the truck we know that the truck was found at the train bridge we know that she was dragged from
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the truck we know that she was beaten with at least two items we know that the attack started or
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or took place inside the truck as well as outside of the the truck mhm and he doesn't say that he rapes her and there
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there's no there's no evidence of rape so there's a lot of things that are in his story that did in fact take place
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during the commission of this homicide so this confession looks really good but as you just pointed out very astutely I
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might point I might uh add is small town it's 3 and a half years later there are
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certain details of this homicide that probably were rumored about town put in the paper uh I know that the uh she
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wasn't raped was put in the paper I I read the article myself that says that but but what's interesting though to me
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is and I I keep bringing it seems like I keep bringing up the Pike County murders
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which at some point we should cover but having friends from that area and and it being a case not solved
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and yes it's a bigger case there's more people murdered uh in that you know horrific
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event but there was tons of speculation and tons of rumor that people thought were facts so the fact that nothing in
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his confession that you told me there there's not one thing that is wrong right there's nothing that dis dismisses
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him right and I guarantee you again stuff that we're not privy to okay well we know she wasn't raped we
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know she was dumped in in the water we know that her where her truck was found okay great this is information
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that everybody's going to know in that town but what were the other rumors what were the other speculations in that town
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that he conveniently left out or maybe not conveniently maybe it's because this is this is the killer I
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mean there's not a lot of people in that town especially in that age bracket he's
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the same age as her and he's basically at least with the confession he's putting himself in the general
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location with no alibi yeah he I mean he lives near the somewhat near the the murder scene right he also you know we
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we I failed to mention the fact that he says he thre the murder weapons and the the keys to the truck in the river we
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know know that the keys were not found we know that the pathologist says hey look I I believe more than one weapon
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was used but I don't know what weapons that were used and that's because the murder weapons were not found so there's
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a lot of things that really line up here and he's not just some wacko coming out
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of the woodwork you know coming out of the out of nowhere thin air here he's somebody that was an actual suspect at
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one time years ago shortly after the murder and I wonder if the crescent wrench information was put out there but
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that would be something that he would have access to cuz he was dating her sister or at least spending time with
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his sister and so is it possible that then he then talked to her uh afterwards to get more details about about the
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crime well if the family even had any of the details other than what was outside
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of the paper we know that the father said that there was a wrench missing yes he did the uh the sheriff's department
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down there they also managed to get Barry as we said to confess to their three unsolved homicides the three
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murders in Louisiana but there's a bit of a problem here for law enforcement down there
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because even though he confessed to those three homicides he couldn't have committed them as there was proof that
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he was not in their state he was not in Louisiana for two maybe even all three of the murders and the police down there
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already said all three were connected so what's going to happen is he's no longer good for these down here
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even though he confessed to them but while down here he confessed to a murder up in Montana so let's ship this guy
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back to Montana to face the music Barry immediately argues that his confessions were coerced he claimed that
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he was threatened he claimed that he was manipulated he claimed that he was drugged but even with the bungled crime
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scene the confession was enough for a jury up in Montana to convict him he was sentenced to 100 years with no chance of
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parole please note the following regarding this confession the tape of Barry Beach's
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confession according to law enforcement in Monroe Louisiana had been erased so at his trial he's saying look you can't
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you can't use my conf confession to convict me it was coerced all that law enforcement can
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provide all that the prosecution can provide to the the jury and the judge is a typed up confession a transcript of
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the questioning between police and Barry Beach I mean you could I could type up something and who knows if it's was
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actually said or not when you lose the audio tape Beach maintained that his confession was coerced what do you mean
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by that well he says that when he was down there in Louisiana they kept threatening him with the death penalty
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with the electric chair and he resorted to well maybe if I confess they're talking to me about
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these this Montana case now maybe if I confess to this they'll ship me back up to Montana I don't want to be in
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Louisiana I don't want the the death penalty or the the electric chair that these guys are telling me that they're
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going to watch me Fry on for these three murders right but I guess he wasn't aware that he had a solid
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Alibi what's that was he not aware that he had a solid Alibi well that's what's weird I don't know why he even bothered
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to confess to the Louisiana cases at some point I mean they're they're questioning him and at some
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point it gets down to he he starts to get confused and he's saying like thing that they're talking about
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God and God is telling him that he did it I mean it gets really weird the whole interaction between these two
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interrogators and I I'm choosing to call them interrogators cuz that's what it seems like at this point and Barry Beach
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and I'm not willing to say he's perfectly innocent of anything here Captain I'm just saying the interaction
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that I read between these three was very strange and and it seemed odd now it didn't seem to me though he he's
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not being denied any of his rights he was made well aware of his Miranda rights several times so the officers did
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that and did that thoroughly and correctly but the the whole God conversation gets
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weird and he admits to these three murders that they end up knowing that he did not con you know confess he could
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not have committed these murders and then to top that off these two same officers later got two other at
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least two other men to confess to these three murders in Louisiana as well and it was proofed that they did not kill
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these three women well like you said there it's an interrogation their job is to try to get a confession not to try to
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get the truth right so what I'm I'm I'm pointing out what could be good and make
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make good and point to Barry Beach's confession being real and truthful and he is a killer but I'm also pointing out
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that these two individuals these two officers seem to be skilled at getting people to confess to things that we know
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they did not do so in the mess of all of of that did they perhaps get Barry Beach
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to confess to killing Kimberly niece and in fact he did not do it so many people
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questioned not only the evidence but the prosecutorial conduct during the course
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of Barry Beach's trial and even after the trial the rumors persisted around popper Montana that a group of girls
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were the ones responsible for Kim's murder other than the confession Barry gave to the detectives which again he
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says was coerced that was really the only thing that convicted him of the murder of Kim
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n at the time prosecution did say that they had a hair that matched Barry Beach and we now know all these years later
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through science that unless that hair has DNA on it and you match it to his DNA it's not a 100% match although
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that's what it was presented as in court but none of the finger prints none of the palm prints none of the other
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in prison he sentenced to 100 years he says I was wrongfully convicted and he requests the help of centurion
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Ministries who agreed to research his case after their investigators reviewed the facts of the case and
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noticed an absence of physical evidence in this case so there's not physical evidence tying Beach to the
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men and women who were serving life or death sentences for crimes they did not commit Centurion believed that the
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confessions obtained in Louisiana were coerced and that the group of girls actually murdered Kim
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nce one significant witness that Centurion managed to find in their investigation was a woman named
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Stephanie Eagle boy she told a story that when she was 10 years old she lived near the train bridge at this time in
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popper back in 1979 she liked to sit out on a rock overlooking the train bridge with her
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cousin One Night in 1979 they were sitting on this rock when they saw two pickup trucks pull onto the train bridge
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they say that a group of girls got out and they heard about 10 or 20 minutes of what they labeled as horrific
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screaming and girls shouting things like get her and kick the [ __ ] then it got quiet they say that
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they saw I'm sorry I shouldn't say they just Stephanie Eagle boy says that she saw a police car arrive and she knows
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that it's a police car because it had its the police lights on top on so old Eagle boy has a Eagle Eye well the the
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cop shuts off the lights according to Stephanie's story then she heard what she thought was digging noises then the
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all three vehicles leave and drive off okay this is interesting she does Say Hey I was scared I was 10 I was
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scared of the girls I was scared of police I was scared of everybody I didn't tell anybody all the way back
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then I'm willing to tell people now Doyle points out in his book that he does not believe that Stephanie
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witnessed the Kimberly niece murder he says that he does not think that she's lying she just witnessed something else
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something else you're exactly right because he points out a couple of different things one Kim's truck stayed
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at the scene according to the story that Stephanie Eagle Boy whatever she witnessed she says all of the vehicles
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left after this screaming and this attack seem to go down and the other thing too is that that that Doyle points
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to is that Stephanie's cousin has never said at any time stated on any official record that she saw anything that
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Stephanie has described seeing right back in 1979 so again we're not saying that she
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is lying we're just saying it might be just a simple mistake of having witnessed something else at a different
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time we're not saying that she's lying we're just saying she's lying well speak for
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just not on purpose I I've seen I've seen this uh woman interviewed and I I believe that she saw what she said she
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saw I just don't think it has anything to do I'm I'm on the side of Doyle there I don't think it has anything to do with
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Kimberly's case right now Captain for this next part I'm really going to give the short of it the just the facts ma'am
00:35:48
somewhat the wiki version of all of the legal stuff here because there's a lot of it and I want to make sure that we
00:35:55
save some time to get back to those cases in Louis Louisiana because they are important to this story so late in
00:36:05
2011 a judge issued a ruling that there was clear and convincing evidence that a
00:36:11
jury could find Barry Beach innocent so he was granted a new trial as a result of this Barry Beach was released from
00:36:21
prison I want to point out this is after years and years of of legal things back
00:36:26
and forth so he's released from prison after nearly three decades Behind Bars Barry was free to go out do his thing
00:36:36
this is pending a new trial Barry found employment working as the head of Maintenance at a hotel but a year and a
00:36:45
half later in May of 2013 the Montana Supreme Court reinstated the murder conviction this
00:36:53
overturning the latest ruling and so Barry was not going to get a new trial and in fact he was ordered to resume his
00:37:02
life sentence immediately I keep saying life sentence it was technically not a life sentence he was sentenced to 100
00:37:09
years in prison right right that same day Barry surrendered himself to the authori so now out of prison back in
00:37:17
prison in October yeah and October of 2014 Beach's attorneys asked Montana Supreme Court to order that beach be
00:37:30
resentenced okay this is important the Supreme Court asked the state to respond to his attorney's claim that Beach's
00:37:36
100-year sentence is illegal because the trial court did not consider that beach
00:37:42
was a minor at the time of n's killing and because it leaves no opportunity for release all right the way that this
00:37:50
breaks down is if you were to re the the the not receiving a life sentence s sucks
00:37:57
for Barry Beach because the life sentence actually carries different weight than the 100-year sentence the
00:38:04
100-year sentence with good behavior gets Barry Beach out at the earliest after 52 and A2 years of serving time he
00:38:12
was in his 20s at the time he would have been nearly 75 80 years old by the time
00:38:18
he would get out per absolute perfect good good record while in prison good behavior that's earliest he could get
00:38:27
out he could potentially get out slightly earlier under the rules of a life sentence but then on top of that
00:38:33
they're saying the shortly after he was convicted he was actually 17 when the murder took place he was a child and
00:38:43
Montana did not allow for juveniles to receive life sentences so he should not have been sentenced to that lengthy of a
00:38:51
sentence it's a whole long legal thing here argument back and forth and Beach's attorney simply pointing out that he was
00:39:00
a teenager at the time and there was legal precedent that says teen should not be handed that life sentence the
00:39:06
Montana Attorney General's office says this precedent does not extend to murder cases so on November 20th of
00:39:18
2015 again after a whole lot it back and forth Montana Governor Steve Bullock commuted the sentence to time
00:39:26
served plus 10 years probation so as of less than 5 years ago Barry Beach is out of prison wow and
00:39:36
he's still serving probation he's he's served quite a bit of time for this murder now the question
00:39:44
then becomes do you think he did it or he didn't do it yeah it's very strange especially with the because we have
00:39:51
evidence or we assume it's correct evidence that he confessed to three murders that he didn't do right so it's
00:40:02
not a big stretch to go well maybe he confessed to this fourth one as well and he didn't do it but then you go back to
00:40:08
the problem of he got an awful lot things awful lot of things right in his confession yeah and he has a connection
00:40:17
to her I think that's the that's another big thing they were the same age they went to school together they knew each
00:40:25
other um well even just that I mean he dated her sister dated the sister and they they were known to be quite close
00:40:31
when they were little kids as well I do want to point out some things that I think is wrong with Centurion Ministries
00:40:40
case because I I don't really know what they were basing this off of I I I agree
00:40:46
with them on the statement hey your what you said about this hair matching bar beach at the time of his trial that's
00:40:52
completely that's a farce that's completely incorrect you cannot say say that it 100% matched him we know that
00:40:59
nowadays without DNA connecting it to him it's not a 100% match so that was that's questionable Behavior M right but
00:41:07
it matches on some level it he cannot be excluded right as the providing the sample of that hair at the crime scene
00:41:16
however you're talking about hundreds and hundreds of other people if not thousands of people couldn't be excluded
00:41:24
from having left that at the crime I'm seeing as well the other thing though too
00:41:31
is let's talk about some of the leaps that I believe that they presented or or were attempting to present in their
00:41:37
their defense of Mr Barry beach one was that the statement in it they want to tear apart his confession right they
00:41:46
want to say well his confession can't be correct because of this thing and this thing that he
00:41:52
stated the first being that Kim would not have gave Barry Beach a ride they were in different social classes that's
00:42:01
their statements I find that to be that makes my heads spin I go what do you mean different social classes they lived
00:42:07
in the same neighborhood this is a town of less than 900 people they went to the
00:42:11
same school they were the same age he dated her sister yeah it makes no sense even even if it's different classes it's
00:42:20
the fact that he was dating or had some kind of relationship with her sister that she would have helped him out
00:42:26
I think what's more interesting to point to that that portion portion of his confession might be false is that no one
00:42:34
ever says that they saw Barry beach with kimn we have witnesses say hey I saw her
00:42:40
parked alone I saw her sitting by herself multiple Witnesses but nobody at any time ever saying they saw Barry
00:42:46
beach with Kim but nobody saw her down uh where her car was found parked by herself yeah you're right the only
00:42:54
person saying that they saw saw her down there is Barry Beach right and that's we
00:42:59
that's where we know her car AED up but also we also have eyewitnesses that say we saw her at the gas station by herself
00:43:07
and then we have Barry Beach saying yep and that's when I came upon her that's for for for a ride the other thing they
00:43:15
point out too Captain is that they in his confession he states that Kim scratched her him during the attack MH
00:43:24
and it's too bad you didn't rip off his dick you know that would just make the story a little bit better Centurion
00:43:31
Ministry says that this cannot be true because there there was no skin found under her fingernails at the
00:43:40
autopsy okay that is a true statement where I have a problem with it is I reviewed the entire 22-page autopsy it
00:43:52
doesn't mention her fingernails once in the entire autopsy right so it may it's yes it's true that no finger no skin was
00:44:01
found under her fingernails at the autopsy but we don't even know that they were examined or checked for skin right
00:44:10
and how long was she actually in the water for and would that have effect on removing any of that evidence again I'm
00:44:19
just I'm just saying that's it's an exaggeration right so we have that part right Captain I mean you can't say there
00:44:27
was no skin found under the fingernails they're not saying in the autopsy report
00:44:32
We examined the fingernails and there was no skin found it's it's not stated anywhere in the report anything about
00:44:40
fingernails well maybe I think what the defense is trying to say is since it wasn't stated then obviously they didn't
00:44:46
find anything and that's just not the case that's correct so then we also have a couple of other possibilities look I
00:44:54
I'm not willing to remove Barry Beach as a likely suspect in this case I think he's still even though he's out and
00:45:06
they've determined that it's time served that's a key thing here too time served they're not saying that he's
00:45:13
innocent either they're just saying he's if he did the crime well he's done the time and now he's out I think he looks
00:45:22
just as good as anybody else but we also have other people to consider right if he didn't do it as he says and as
00:45:30
Centurion Ministry says then somebody else had to have killed Kimberly niece we have this ongoing Rumor for many many
00:45:39
years for decades now that a group of girls killed Kim n that night we have a statement that was given to the
00:45:48
Sheriff's Office this is three weeks after the murder a guy named Mike this is this comes from a um an individual
00:45:57
that says a guy named Mike told him several people beat Kim to death and there were several witnesses and no one
00:46:05
helped her when asked who was doing the beating he said it was [ __ ] Atkinson and Tera Red Dog or something now we
00:46:15
know [ __ ] Atkinson she is in this story she's referenced many times the only mention I ever saw of this Tera red dog
00:46:24
is in this young man's statement to the sheriff's department but he follows that
00:46:29
up with or something so it sounds like he's not clear on the second individual's name Mike longree said that
00:46:38
red dog held Kim down while [ __ ] beat her with a hammer or some other object Kim's Hair was caked in blood she begged
00:46:47
for help before she fell and passed out and then people started to leave the area leave the scene we know that a claw
00:46:56
hammer was found in the river 30 ft from the Body Found by scuba uh scuba diver during evidence search yeah it was found
00:47:04
by Scuba Steve but the pathologist says that that was not the instrument that killed Kim I do want to point out though
00:47:13
that Captain there's been a long list or a long roster of names when it comes to
00:47:19
the quote unquote group of girls involved in the murder of Kim n I've seen probably six or seven different
00:47:28
names uh the ones that are mostly tied to it is the [ __ ] Atkinson mod greyhawk
00:47:34
and Joanne Todd um yeah but that that story doesn't account for that there's attack in the
00:47:42
vehicle and out of the vehicle right what's that the way that that account of the story went so this young
00:47:51
man is not claiming to have witnessed the murder he's just saying that he's heard he heard about it he's he's citing
00:47:58
by name an individual that told him what that person witnessed that night again that we have the rumor and and normally
00:48:07
when there's more people than one involved you'll get people talking about it people can't be quiet about it and
00:48:14
the other thing too is I don't know that you can completely rule out the boyfriend at the
00:48:21
time I mean there's really a whole long list of suspects that that I don't think you can clear and a
00:48:28
lot of that is based off of you just don't have very good physical evidence yeah we do we do have I thought I
00:48:35
thought this was weird when I was uh going through the police reports there was a report from a person named Johnny
00:48:44
mamy and he says that on the night that Kim n was murdered he witnessed a pickup truck
00:48:53
pull up at the norgard house between 3:35 and 3:45 a.m. okay in his report in his statement to the Sheriff's Office he
00:49:07
says that he knows that it was either 335 or 3:45 a.m. because immediately after he witnessed this truck pull up at
00:49:15
the norgard house he looked at two clocks inside of his house one said 335 one said
00:49:23
345 he said that the pickup he described the pickup as having loud mufflers and a
00:49:29
bar or a rack on the back I find this to be interesting it doesn't necessarily mean anything it
00:49:36
could just be a coincidence but I find it interesting that we have all of this activity going on with all these
00:49:42
teenagers Greg is the closest one to our murder victim and he says that he gets home between 2:45 and 3:00
00:49:52
a.m. what is this vehicle pulling up at 3 3:35 3:45 a.m. mhm where I'm getting at and what I'm where I'm going at with
00:50:01
this is this whole story this this rumor that's lasted for decades about a group
00:50:05
of girls well that's not what the statement was that was given to the the Sheriff's Office the Sheriff's Office
00:50:11
statement that they received from that that young man the the witnesses said he was told by Mike
00:50:17
longree that Mike long Tre witnessed the murder was that a group of people were there this could include guys and other
00:50:25
dudes that it didn't have to just be girls the way that it sounds that it went down is it might be a couple of
00:50:31
girls that were responsible for the actual murder but there were plenty of witnesses there and this being both you
00:50:40
know young young women girls guys what have you it it's possible that they might not even have known that they
00:50:48
actually killed her I think I think the the the more troubling thing and then where I question this
00:50:56
rumor is I don't know why I I just find it somewhat hard to believe if the more people that you put at that scene the
00:51:06
more people that you that that you have that claim to have witnessed something or know or have heard something none of
00:51:14
these people ever came forward when they're convicting the wrong guy for the murder yeah but again that's I think
00:51:20
those are little details not being privy to cuz you're not from the area you don't know what
00:51:26
relationship that uh you know Mr Beach had with anybody and and and what kind of you know individual he was and it
00:51:36
could be as sick as you know these um girls attack her for whatever reason jealousy or maybe she's flirting with
00:51:47
their the the claim is that they were that one of them at least one of them was jealous probably several of them but
00:51:55
it seems like there may have been something going on or something suspected of going on
00:52:02
between [ __ ] Atkinson I believe or one of these other young young women again it's a
00:52:11
long Ever Changing fluid roster of Nam right but it's not that far-fetched we already know that she was hanging out
00:52:17
with a guy the night before until 4:00 in the morning right and the the rumor was that that she was hanging out with
00:52:26
the not only the boyfriend of one of these girls but the the father of their child but what I'm saying is if that
00:52:35
went down and then These Guys these detectives and a whole another part of the country that are pretty good at
00:52:44
getting people to con confess to crimes gets this guy to confess that's like good for you why
00:52:53
would you come forward and and the group doesn't have to be that large two or three girls two or three guys yeah you
00:53:00
know I mean I I don't I don't know that I'm just I it just if that is in fact the truth it makes me incredibly it
00:53:10
makes me equally as disappointed as I am with the the false confession it's just
00:53:17
weird because I think the confession there's too many details that make sense and there and I also think
00:53:26
normally when you have a confession that's false that you have moments of distancing yourself from certain things
00:53:34
and and he's like keeps reiterating like yeah I attacked her and then I like Tred
00:53:40
to kiss her again and then I hit her and then I tried to kiss her again like it's
00:53:45
almost like he didn't even have the concept of how crazy of a person that makes him
00:53:51
sound well and that's where the audio tape that magically disappeared or was taped over or erased would have been
00:54:00
very helpful for the defense right it was a race because of the tactics they use but that doesn't mean that the
00:54:07
confession is false just you know if you if you tell somebody hey if you lie to me I'm going to chop off your fingers
00:54:15
you're not supposed to do that but if you do that and the person confesses and it's
00:54:20
truthful am I making any sense there no you're making sense it absolutely could still be a truthful confession what I
00:54:27
mean is would you have ever got a conviction to to begin with right because we have nothing to to go off of
00:54:35
on that confession and and how look we can sit here all day long and go yeah he got a whole bunch of stuff right in the
00:54:42
confession well he you know he got a million times more things right than Jesse Miss Kelly got in his confession
00:54:49
that was put pieced together but we also don't know that maybe these investigators maybe these
00:54:55
interrogators received detailed information about the murder scene about the crime itself from investigators back
00:55:03
in Montana and they helped Barry piece it together and really helped him hang himself with with h quote unquote his
00:55:12
words and all we have is a piece of paper that's typed out by God knows who to tell us this is what Barry said that
00:55:20
day when he was being questioned it would be nice to have that audio tape to hear where they starting and stopping
00:55:25
that tape was Barry getting things wrong and then they were manipulating his answers or telling him that he got it
00:55:31
wrong no try again Barry think harder this time Barry no it wasn't it wasn't a it wasn't a a a a hammer that you used
00:55:40
wasn't there something else that you saw in that truck Barry we've seen this go down we've seen this movie a million
00:55:46
times it I I I do question the validity of the the confession and let's go back to to Louis
00:55:55
lisiana because what we have here is three guys Barry included that confess to killing these three persons we
00:56:04
have we also have a police department that's down there that's kind of freaking out at the moment they're even
00:56:09
publicly stating hey we think we have another Atlanta on our hands here we have somebody in our community killing
00:56:16
our citizens and we don't know who it is but we do know that it's connected now what was interesting about this case was
00:56:23
at the time they said these are connected but they were very tight lipped about the details which I found
00:56:30
to be very interesting cuz I questioned that I'm like were they just kind of panicking and these weren't actually
00:56:36
connected but what happened was I I'll go through the actual briefly through through the murders because they
00:56:44
released very little about it at the time the first one was in August of 1980 it was 27y old victim her name was Angie
00:56:52
Hill she was found in southern Monroe in an industrial park shot in the head her
00:56:59
car was abandoned they know that a 22 caliber pistol was used they believe that a possible robbery from a from a
00:57:08
convenience store uh where she work took place as well a robbery for $600 and her car was found 7 miles away
00:57:16
from her body then in April of 81 Kathy Wharton who went by Jean she was found she was 19 years old found April 4th off
00:57:28
of Maguire Ranch Road and it's the same situation Captain where her body is found 5 miles away from her vehicle she
00:57:38
too was shot with a 22 caliber pistol and then in February of 82 we have Sher Alford who's only 16 years old she's
00:57:46
attacked in a very similar attack now what we learn how do we know that these are connected well police released all
00:57:55
these years later in 2007 that the mo was the exact same and what had happened in all three of these cases is they
00:58:03
could determine that by that the the vehicles that these young women were driving right somebody had bumped them
00:58:13
from behind on the road and then ran them off of the road and once the victim got out of the vehicle or was forced out
00:58:21
of the vehicle then they were sexually assaulted and killed K the bodies dumped away from the vehicle or the vehicle
00:58:29
moved away from the the body what have you I point all of this out because these cases end up getting closed or at
00:58:38
least one of them and police saying that hey these three are connected because in
00:58:43
2007 they connected DNA from the second murder from Kathy Wharton's murder to this guy Anthony Glenn Wilson mm Anthony
00:58:54
Glenn Wilson has got a rap sheet like you wouldn't believe he's been arrested 42 times during his life booked 32 times
00:59:03
in correctional facilities and likely he quit murdering or stopped murdering at least
00:59:10
briefly because he was arrested and convicted of assault and battery with a dangerous weapon this in the area of the
00:59:18
murders in March 2nd of 1983 in the month of March of 1983 so just one year after the third killing
00:59:27
plus the announcement the public announcement of the task force forming probably prompted him the other thing
00:59:34
too they're putting in the papers hey we got this guy Gary Beach who looks okay for these maybe it's a convenient time
00:59:41
for me to quit murdering as well right I point all that out because it one it's good to hear that these cases got solved
00:59:50
that they that they're not just in aside to the Barry Beach case to Kimberly n's
00:59:56
case as they are often when we see this case on Dat line that that we have a result we have a resolve an answer to
01:00:04
what happened to these poor girls down in Louisiana but Barry Beach and Anthony Wilson do not look anything like one
01:00:15
another we have an officer who came out in fact he was still on the force when they finally solved these three unsolved
01:00:23
homicides he comes forward and he says Hey when they brought beach in and said they were going to question him for
01:00:30
these three Louisiana murders we got into a heated argument I got into a heated argument with the two officers I
01:00:38
said you know he doesn't look anything like the description we have of our suspect right we have witnesses at
01:00:46
several of the crime scenes of the murder scenes and We Know by all of their accounts this man looks nothing
01:00:53
like like our our suspect and they said hey why don't you shut up we'll deal with the homicides
01:01:01
you're a Narcotics officer why don't you worry about the drugs we'll worry about
01:01:06
the homicides and they question Barry Beach anyway and that's where my mind goes
01:01:11
captain and I wonder you know what is this the old baiton switch as soon as they found out from his old stepmother
01:01:18
that Barry was questioned a couple of times up in the state of Montana hey let's get him to confess to these
01:01:24
murders here we know he didn't do it before we even started the questioning and let's open the door to
01:01:31
talk to him about Montana and let's see what we can get from the investigators up there maybe they led him to this
01:01:38
confession to be honest with you I wish I knew the absolute answer for you captain and I don't have it I don't have
01:01:45
the answer I've looked over this a hundred times I can't figure out if Barry Beach's confession is true or
01:01:51
false well we at least know that one of them is false that's true that is absolutely
01:01:57
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murder and it's available in paperback and in Kindle form and that's by is this the story of the captain well it could
01:02:34
be and and funny that you say that because I've read this book it's fantastic but Reckless speculation about
01:02:40
murder is kind of what we do every week in the garage and this is by good friend
01:02:45
of the show Barney Doyle one of the things that I enjoyed about this book was it points out that Barney Doyle
01:02:53
isn't your average gum Sho private detective all right he is but what sets him apart from all of those other guys
01:03:00
is that he wrote this book and they didn't so check out Reckless speculation about Murder By Barney Doyle that's our
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