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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] Cobra Kai never die I binge watched season two of Cobra
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Kai oh you did yep I start I think it came out at midnight and I watched last night no
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this was last week okay came out at midnight and episodes were about 30 minutes long
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27 to 30 minutes long and I got through about three or four episodes and I was like n it's pretty good I don't know if
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it's as good as the first season it's pretty good I'll watch it later and then I thought to myself really not that
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tired so I started the next episode mhm and then it was like 5:00 in the morning
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and I I finished it all so it gets better when whenever you bring up Cobra Kai show it always reminds me of Howard
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Stern yelling at Gary deabate because yeah they got they got a um they got the first season in advance
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mhm and Gary just took it upon himself to take it home and watch it and he everybody watched it right Stern doesn't
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find out until like through conversation that he's like uh Gary recommends it to
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Howard and Howard's like so you've seen this it hasn't come out yet and Gary's like yeah we got we got an advanced copy
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and I took it home and watched it and he's like why didn't Stern's like why didn't I get the advanced copy I'm the
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star of the show yeah you're I'm the reason you got they want me to talk about it not you Gary you
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know I I tell you what I could listen to the bicker ing uh arguments inside that
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recording studio that to me is probably one of my favorite parts of of that show
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yeah well it's uh I've sent you that clip probably four or five times and he's like when you're watching something
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think about bof Gary always forgets about bof so I I wanted to go over some things some
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really good discussion on some of our more recent cases that we covered on our blog and several good emails as well but
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just a a reminder here uh if you got a theory I prefer that you send it to the blog so everybody can read it and you
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never know like your theory could help in some way or at the very least it creates discussion interesting
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discussion on there because people are reading your theories it's not so important that I just you know that I be
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the only one that knows let me let me interrupt you real quick so one you don't see most of the comments that go
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to Facebook you normally don't see the comments that go to Instagram I I do check the Instagram ones once in a while
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and but it's also hard to you know because sometimes people are just going nice episode you have to sift through
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certain comments to get to actual theories and then sometimes people will email these interesting
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ideas I'll read them you know and then I'll say well that's pretty interesting or that's a nice Theory did you post
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this on the blog no I didn't well just post it there because we both read those what's weird is like if if somebody
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sends me something in an email I just you know because we don't know the people that we're talking with
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on email I just have to assume that it's something that I'm not allowed to put on
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the blog right or that that person doesn't want it to be there for whatever reason but again good theories uh good
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information and conversation on the blog about some of our more recent cases um Amy Hooper which we covered just a few
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weeks ago um I do want to kind of clear some things up because there you know this came up in conversation on the blog
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first of all there was a lot of questions regarding the door locks remember we said that the police believe
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there was no forced entry into her home and the when the when her family shows up looking for
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her they find the front door locked and they had to go and get the superintendent to unlock the door right
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and so the good conversation was people wanted to know well how could that be how can you have both no forced entry
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and then when the people that show up first to find her find the door locked and I ended up having an interesting
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conversation with somebody that lived in that apartment complex and actually lived in the apartment complex when Amy
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Hooper lived there so back in back in the day in 1992 and this individual told me that
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she didn't live in the same style of apartment that Amy had I guess Amy had like a like a more of a townhouse style
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right and she lived in a garden style you know like a one one floor deal but she said I I when I found out
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that she lived there I said hey I want to talk to you about the the door locks because this was always my thought but I
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want some kind of confirmation on it because my thought was a lot of people said well this just can't be it's
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impossible but a lot of people especially like in the '90s those little push button locks on the door where you
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can pull it behind you and and the door stays locked was a pretty normal thing for apartments at that time right and so
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that was always my suspicion I never even looked into it further uh until a lot of the smart people started hitting
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the blog and and questioning that one interesting aspect of the case this lady that I spoke to she said her door lock
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was that style and she actually remembers it because it was always a hot button issue between her and her
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boyfriend at the time you know she was saying that cuz that little push button lock just goes to the door knob and
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anybody can very easily manipulate that or bust in your door and they had a um a
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dead bolt on top that you did have to lock from the outside with a key but so she was saying that she goes I can't
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confirm what kind of door the the townh houses had but we know most of these things are are built using all the same
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material and so she was saying yes you could lock our door you could push the button when the door was open shut it
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behind you and leave and she said her boyfriend always locked the door in that manner rather than taking the time to
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use his key and and do the dead bolt so I think that's probably what the situation was with Amy that it's very
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likely that the killer just to delay the finding of her may have hit that button
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and close the door on his way out or you know it just did it out of habit right so that and then you wonder well if he
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was doing that at a habit was it somebody that lived close well you know what's weird is the more cuz so a lot of
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these cases we cover them and and I very quickly move on to the next case because
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we have no choice we have another case the following week well we could stay with the same case over and over but but
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that's not our style Amy's case you know one that I'm very passionate about was was one that I couldn't shake it even
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after we covered it it was still sticking with me for days and days and so um you know really kept spending a lot
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of time looking into it and going over some stuff that we covered and didn't cover and I I the more and more I think
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about her case and I think we may have said this on the show but I I feel like it may have been somebody that had ties
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to the apartment complex not you know not so much ties to Amy specifically but somebody with ties to the apartment
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complex and that could be any number of things it could be somebody that worked there somebody that lived there or
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somebody that that visited there for you know any number of reasons I I think there's a chance that somebody saw her
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or maybe had limited interactions with her and maybe that was the um you know how we tie the
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killer to the victim and then there was also some talk about DNA cuz you you brought up the
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good thing on on that case of well if we got really good DNA and we got some suspects and we can't get them to submit
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DNA can't we just steal their trash and test some of that and you were absolutely right I questioned that on
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the show so I want to clean that up a bit you can just anything that's discarded you can just collect it and
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test it um where I got a little jumbled up was there were some specific cases that have in the last couple years been
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been solved finally solved and resolved using DNA testing and in those cases that I was
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thinking about at the time they did in fact have a search warrant to get those items they they did the official thing
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went to a judge got the warrant and then collected items I think where it gets a
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little confusing there is very likely in those situations they probably went and
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stole well stole is not the right word but took some of the trash that was discarded by the person they thought did
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it and then tested it and go okay well we have a match here but we can't 100% confirm that it is this person's DNA
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just because we took it from their trash can you know it could be somebody else's
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DNA and so in those cases they did then take that information to a judge and say
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look we need a probable cause warrant for DNA on this specific individual and here's why we found DNA on discarded
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items in this person's trash that match the the offender of this crime of this murder and so it's just a checks and
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balances kind of thing you know you keep the guy under surveillance and then you
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go get this official warrant that's so once you bring the dirt bag in you can go okay not only are we going to
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question you about this if you start to squirm and you tell us at any time that you're innocent you didn't do this boom
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we have a judge telling us you have to submit your DNA you have to submit your DNA and we can compare it there and
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we're going to find out if you in fact did this or not well right and just like with the Tyler Davis case they went to
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talk to the friend and they wanted to see his cell phone well they they go and get the subpoena for his for his cell
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phone and so when they say hey can we see your cell phone he says well of course you can see my cell phone but if
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he said no they would have said well we have a search warrant for your cell phone so boom
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I love when they do it in that manner and I think it was the Scott Peterson case where at very early on he looked
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like he was being cooperative and when the police show up and they have they had warrants in their pockets for
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certain items right and Peterson all of a sudden like well shouldn't you have to
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shouldn't you have a warrant for that you know like and and they said that it was weird the way that he said that to
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the police like he said it in a manner that was like matter of fact no you're not getting these items unless you have
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a warrant but he also kind of said it in a way that was like friendly and joking
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to them you know to kind of throw it out there that that if they question that later maybe he could say well I was just
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joking but they didn't give him the opportunity because he's like you you probably should have a warrant for that
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and they're like yeah they're in our pockets man like and they just they pull them out and they're like we're we're
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taking these items I would say hold on a second and the guy would go is it your pocket I go no but it's it's in my under
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underwear and I have to like take my belt off and then zip my fly and reach down real deep in there and go oh here
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it is here it is give you the old stink subpoena well and I don't want to go into any one person's uh comments in
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particular regarding the blog but I do want to give a shout out to somebody named mg from Texas I've noticed mg from
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Texas puts a lot of interesting thought-provoking um comments on some of the uh some of the blog some of the
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different cases some of the blog comments are so good that it's like I wish we had that comment when we're
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recording the show right cuz we would have been able to say hey here's an interesting thought and what do we think
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about this yeah um another case that we covered that that um well really started
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a lot of conversation was kayn louder mhm and one one thing that was brought up fast and often was the Draper Utah
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comment where we pointed out how many how many sex offenders uh by ratio um for residents in Draper Utah
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and I think I even had the brilliant comment of what the hell's going on in Draper um well what's going on there
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it's turned out turns out there's a prison so uh what and you know what I was laughing about that for days and I
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and I look we we do a show and we try to put out good information the problem is
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we sometimes we're dumb well but some well at the end of the day we're just two guys in a garage but drunk has
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pissed the other thing though too is we have a limited amount of time to do the research on the show so one one person
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which I mean I was still laughing about the Draper Utah comment right and um but
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one person was a little out of bounds they're like didn't you do any research there's a prison in Draper which which
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made me feel bad because we should have known that I should have known that but the thing is there's only so much
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stuff we can research now the the um we managed to put out a two-hour show so obviously we did do some research
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regardless of what that person thinks but the the the funny thing too about it is the website and I cited the website
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that I found that information from it just I found it shocking and and they're technically right that they were
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referring to the inmates as residents right which is a little weird because they're not choosing to live in that
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City yeah but that's that's not the uh definition of Resident right wherever you live is where you live doesn't
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matter if you want to or not right right I mean you could grow up in Hack and Sack New Jersey and that might not be
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where you want to live so when I finally got over laughing about Draper Utah and
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in my comment uh and how how dumb it was to be frank Then I then I kept laughing
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about them calling the inmates residents which is I mean just seems funny well but that's how it is now it's
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a business I mean when when these residents get top-of-the-line cable and Wi-Fi internet connection on and a lot
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of these prisons I mean they're residents mhm they should be prison ERS but no they're living the High Life
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they're just just not allowed to go out the other thing too I was telling a buddy of mine who doesn't listen to the
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show M I said look man I I feel like an idiot but I've been laughing because it's just it's just funny to me uh I
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said I told him the whole Draper Utah thing mhm and I said you know and I said it's even funnier when I look back and I
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go remember that I said what the hell's going on in Draper um and he goes he doesn't listen to the show so I'm
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filling him in and he's laughing about this he found it very uh very funny as well he goes ah the same thing happened
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to me and I'm thinking no no no no no no no no like that's my brain immediately is going the same thing didn't happen to
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anybody else right nobody else has done the same thing and I told him that I said so you have to tell me the full
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story now and so he told me that remember we so we covered in sville and at the time after that
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happened there were these different websites that would pop up and I don't I don't know if they're still around and
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he didn't mention the one in particular that he was on but it was you could you could um see where all these exotic
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animals are located and he he was looking through the map of Ohio M and there is an area
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where one of his buddies lives and this is kind of out in the Boondock somewhere
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Boon somewhere and he said he said I saw that there was like 60 monkeys living in
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my friend's area so I I text him immediately I'm like hey you better watch out there's some some some crazy
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guy out there that owns like 60 monkeys in your neighborhood and there was a good reason
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for it you know like it it wasn't a zoo but uh you know uh similar situation where his buddy came back real quick and
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he's like well this facility is here and we're aware that they have monkeys yeah
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like we don't have to watch out for anything but but thanks for the heads up thanks for the heads up on that but I
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mean oh yeah I I I think about that often and you know cuz I anytime that somebody has a
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little bit of land it kind of intrigues me so I'll drive a little slower look at
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the Farmland right but I if I saw a bear or something just start on me a little bit but if I saw a
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lion I think I would I think I would poop a little just a little oh yeah but I think so excuse me um I actually
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thought I saw Bigfoot last week really were you hanging out with Jose cono when you come
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uh when you come to my house do do you go buy the dollar store or not not anymore you showed me the back way I go
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the back way especially when I'm leaving because sometimes I get stuck at that um
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at that stop sign right there and and and what's kind of dangerous about it is when the as the you know the the trees
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fill out for Springtime mhm I it's to the right there I can't really see the traffic that's coming very well no and
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you and there's so much traffic coming from the left that you focus on that for a long period of time yeah I'm just
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worried I'm gonna get blasted sometime when I pull out of there so I've been going the back way and that that
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railroad crossing is like it's almost like the the damn train comes out of a tunnel almost on both sides like like
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you hope the equipment's working because you have no way of seeing if a train is
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coming and if ever since we've done boys on the tracks I'm I'm like terrified of
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trains now yeah I had I had this time where um same tracks but it was a different part of town
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and so I'm driving at night I was in a little tiny Dodge Omni oh yeah yeah yeah and I was going over the tracks and
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right as I got over like on the tracks there was a train sitting there oh and the light turned on oh so the the
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train wasn't moving and it it had the you know where the little bars that go up and down right and so those weren't
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on right and so I was going over the tracks and all of a sudden the light of the train turned on and I was
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like you know I mean and and it was probably a good hour it took me at least an hour to calm down and say okay the
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train wasn't moving you didn't you know cuz I'm going I almost died I almost died but I didn't es especially when you
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get out in the sticks yeah I wonder how often that equipment is being tested and
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you know like if it goes bad MH or isn't working for whatever reason how long is
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it until they till the repair people figure it out you know like right so so so Bigfoot you know how you go down uh
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after you go through a couple wines you go down like a hill mhm and then you have to go up the hill and as you're
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going up the hill there's a bridge M and so right right side of the bridge I see what looks like maybe a bear I mean
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it's definitely hairy right right and was it tall or big pretty tall not super big but it's like looking
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down you know under the bridge basically but like on the side of the road legs kind of spread apart hair down um
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connected from the head I could see that the hair not only in the back was like connected to the back hair but front
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hair was down to the waist level H and for just a split second I went oh my that's a big
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foot and this guy turns around and it's a guy with a giant beard and super long hair mhm and you barely could see his
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eyes cuz he the the beard was pretty much up to his eyes and he had one of those uh Camouflage Outfits oh yeah that
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have like things hanging off of it so that looked like fur yeah but what got me was the beard was basically connected
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to I mean the beard was down to this guy's waist and it looked like it was connected to this camouflage he had and
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I mean just for a Split Second and I was like oh I I have seen one and and it really uh it really freaked me out for a
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second well you know what I think personally if I see something as strange as you just described I would rather it
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be a Sasquatch than a neighbor well but um the cool thing about my neighbors is the way we view
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this world is it's us against you well you know what the the Draper Utah comment made me think of one of my
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favorite sports shows is PTI pardon the interruption with I like I love Michael wilbon and Tony Kornheiser right uh
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Michael wilbon I could sit and listen to him talk about sports for hours and hours and hours but anyway I could sit
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and listen to you talk about sports for minutes they they have one of the for those not familiar they have one of
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those uh Sports shows and and I feel like they were one of the first doing it where they they have a topic and I like
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that you can see the topic that's you know as they change you can see what's up next what's in the queue and they'll
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discuss whatever that topic is sometimes they agree sometimes they don't agree and they've been they've had this show
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for a long time and and you see a lot of sports shows now that it's a debate show and uh but they have a thing at the
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end sometimes of the show of what did the guys get wrong because they're in a sense they're kind of like and I in the
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way that we do our show we bring materials with us we don't always know where the conversation is going to lead
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or questions that will come up through the course of of us uh discussing something and so they have like somebody
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that that has to sit there and kind of fact check or or pay attention to what these guys are saying and then at the
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end they point out what they got wrong right uh and I I thought that made me think of that because I'm like I almost
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feel like we need one of those guys cuz we can't check our as we're doing the show just we would be
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here for for days and days and days doing the show yeah but they they would have to try to find something and and
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when you're researching a case you might find three different newspapers that say
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something a little different you know and so to to fact check it I mean you get something like that correct you go
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oh well that's because there's a prison you idiot but the other stuff that' just
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be wasting your time and blowing hot air in the garage and I don't got time for that hot air a lot of people pointing
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out that we we talked a lot about um on the kin louder case we talked about the phone calls uh we even played a portion
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of the phone call to 911 a lot of people pointing out that that we kept saying that she was sounding normal and you
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know people very rightfully so pointed out that that may not mean anything we we
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you know it's difficult to judge her State of Mind at the time uh just because she sounds normal but you
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and I were specifically looking for red flags within her words to really point out that we think
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hey this might be what's going on and that's just not there um what say that again I'm not following you so we we
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pointed out that she sounded normal meaning like we didn't find her to be saying anything there's a lot of
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people that say that she went missing because she was quotee unquote crazy and so we were looking for her to be saying
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obvious crazy sounding things and that wasn't there and so people were pointing out that just because she sounds normal
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or her words seem normal to us it you know there there are a lot of people that are suffering from something
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mentally and they sound they sound normal but yes well and the other problem with all this though is that we
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don't know what the starting point is you know we don't know her so we don't know what she sounds like normally so
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maybe this sounds different differently than she normally sounds but the other problem with the listeners is they don't
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know how she normally sounds well I don't think they're talking about her specifically no but what well no I
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understand that but there was some people that were trying to dog us to say well she clearly is doing this and you
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clearly don't understand anything about mental breaks and I'm going well clearly
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you've never listened to the show and I have never had like moments of psychosis
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personally um or even I I've probably been on The Fringe of manic episodes but I don't think I've had a full manic
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episode The what I can base this off of is my personal experiences and also my experiences with others I've had three
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to four friends that were uh extreme bipolar cases where they all had manic episodes I actually met one of my
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friends during a medic a manic episode M I was in um I was at college and then we they had
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these college apartments and that was it like there was not many apartments around this
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college everything was pretty much dorms but there was this row of apartments that were owned by the college we're out
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there drinking with some buddies this guy's door was open um I start hearing fire fir
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works I go look in the door the dude is naked lighting fireworks off in in the the middle of his uh uh family room
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what's wrong with that and uh that's typical Friday night at the Colonel's house yeah no the best I think I said
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are you okay and the guy says come on in no I'll be fine out here and I said something about maybe you should put
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some clothes on they said yeah maybe you're right but um so we don't know and and those are look I'm not an expert in
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the med U mental health field I'm not going to ever say that I am all we can go is is to have opinions and some of
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our opinions are going to be wrong also our opinions sometimes are based off of some actual facts or
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evidence and one of the things in this case is that we have her family saying we talked to her that day we talked to
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her multiple times that week and she didn't sound off right she didn't sound like something bad was happening again
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that doesn't mean there wasn't something happening but you have to look at evidence and then give your opinion and
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so many people that said well it's clearly this and you just don't know what the hell you're talking about well
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again so you're going to tell me that you know more about her speech patterns and her
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thoughts more than her family does well and and also opinions aside you know when we have a case and there is
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audio or video and it and it may pertain to the case in some manner or form it's
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our job to to at least give the play byplay for everybody out there I I think so it would be irresponsible not to
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review it and I think it's important to throw in those opinions or what we think
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we are hearing or what we think we're seeing at the time right and that doesn't mean we're going to be right but
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but that's also you know if if we didn't give our opinions on anything then our you know we have a 20 minute show about
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what what a case is and let's keep any opinions out of there and only evidence and that well
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that's you know that's not interesting to me and I'm not going to do that so I just had a couple people online that
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were trying to attack me and and again it was just to me it was absolute nonsense like
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if you listen to the show I've been pretty open about stuff I've struggled with and that doesn't mean that I'm an
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expert but the person was trying to say well you know uh you shouldn't speak about this if you uh don't have any
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experiences okay well I have experience you just don't know me so you can't then
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go online and assume a bunch of [ __ ] you know so that yeah that those are tough
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cases though [Music] [Applause]