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foreign [Music] the police had just discovered what can only be referred to as a House of
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Horrors they found a bloody scene at the rental house where the Browns were staying and within a mile of the house
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in fact it's distanced at between a half and a three-quarters of a mile from the
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home in a wooded area they find a pile of bodies now from the get-go of course their main
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person of interest is going to be Adam Matos they know that he lived there at the home
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they also know that 9-1-1 was called because there was some kind of Confrontation where his ex-girlfriend
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Megan says that he attacked her with a knife and threatened to kill her yeah but the
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knife against her throat and cut her hand this took place on the 28th about six days before their grisly discovery
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but for all the detectives knew Matos might even be among that unidentified pile of bodies
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so another possible suspect here is Nicholas Leonard the other person involved in this love triangle that
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seems to be known to law enforcement here's a little peel back the curtain moment here at the garage
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Megan apparently hadn't told her friends and family about Nick prior to the 28th
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it seems like this was very much on the DL for her and that makes sense because Adam Matos is still living at her home
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and she knows that this is not going to be a permanent Arrangement so some sometimes you just try to keep the peace
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right but Nick is the opposite he had told his family all about Megan in fact saying that he
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was in love with her right Nick told his parents that he and Megan were keeping their romance quiet until Adam moved out
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of the house I think he even told his mom that she might be the one yes I believe so but Nick Leonard is
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discounted pretty quickly as a suspect in the murder of the family when the medical examiner finally identifies
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those found in that pile of decomposing bodies and Nick Leonard is identified as being
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one of the victims now we stated here that the detectives immediately when they found this I mean this is like the
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most horrific site these officers have seen in their entire career they State we didn't know what exactly we were
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looking at we knew it was a pile of bodies but we didn't know how many victims they were or who they were
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so now we have the medical examiner who is able to start identifying the remains that were found
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but how many people were found it turns out that there were four decomposing bodies we already said that
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Nick Leonard was one of them but the other victims were Megan her father Greg and her mother Maggie Brown
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all identified by the medical examiner so I guess the one bright spot here in this very very darkest of moments
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is there's no Tristan there's no little boy found dead at the scene so there is some
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hope yeah some hope but also if you're law enforcement you have this kid which is autistic that is possibly with his
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father which is the number one suspect for a quadruple homicide so what kind of danger is he in yes
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you're spot on with that and that's going to be the major major concern here before we move on to that though Captain
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I do want to point out because the question becomes why would these detectives see and find this
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pile of bodies and not understand what it is that they're looking at or immediately know the in the victims the
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number of victims I think that we should point out here there's a couple of factors involved in
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this one it can be easily assumed that these victims have all been dead for some time
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for quite some time actually because it was the day after that police report was
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taken at the home on the 29th of August that neither Megan nor Maggie showed up for their 3 P.M work shifts that day so
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it's easy to assume that whatever happened whatever transpired and went down it went down before 3 P.M that
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following day it was six days between that 9-1-1 call and this grizzly discovery and we don't know how long the
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remains were exposed to the elements but we're talking about Florida in August it's freaking hot it's going to speed a
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lot of things up and that's going to work against the forensic experts and the investigators when they find the
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scene and you are exactly right as soon as they determine Tristan is not amongst
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the victims here thank God we gotta find this little boy he's four years old and
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very likely in the company of this very very dangerous man we have suspect number one
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underline and circle him at the top of our list suspect number one Adam Matos probably is in possession of this little
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four-year-old boy so they very smartly issue an amber alert to try to locate Tristan
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this is very smart for several reasons one top priority find the boy no doubt about that number two second priority if
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you can manage to do both get Adam Matos and handcuffs and sit him down and ask him the tough questions well they find
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him pretty quickly because is not the smartest of guys no no he's not he might be at the top of the list
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for suspects not at the top of the list for Smart Guys yeah evil doesn't equal genius oh but he checks himself and with
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his son into a hotel not that far away so he manages to make it to Tampa Florida and
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they do check into a hotel where he uses his own name he checks in under his own
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name so that makes it a little easier for him to be found and located well I think he said I'll take uh a room for
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two they said what name he said uh douchebag and they said well we don't accept that name and
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he goes okay well Adam Mattis it's the same it's like in Star Wars there's there's several flaws
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in Star Wars but one that was always alarming shut your mouth was that Obi-Wan Kenobi when he goes into hiding
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what is the name that he uses the Alias that he uses while in hiding Ben Kenobi like um I'm in hiding but I'll still use
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my my last name I thought he went by uh obi-2 Kenobi right instead of the captain I'll go by look hapon yeah
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nobody will ever figure it out so Adam Matos checked into this Tampa Florida hotel under his own name authorities get
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a break there when they pick up the two Tristan he's four years old of course he's in a State of Shock like
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none of us could believe he's not talking to police Adam on the other hand does not appear to be in shock at all in
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fact he seems to be incredibly calm cool and collected come on again we have a we
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have a kid that's autistic and so I don't know a lot about it but I did play in a band with
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um amazing guy amazing teacher he taught kids with autism and so he'd always kind
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of talked to me about the Spectrum and and how some are verbal and some are non-verbal so
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it's not as simple for the cops to to know they don't know his personality well before being able to talk to him but
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they clearly can see that this kid has some kind of trauma going on right I was going to throw that in there too
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unfortunately the icing on the cake here will be you when you find this boy you're very happy about that but you do
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not have a clear understanding as to what he may or may not have witnessed and the effects that may have had on him
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and as you said the the PTSD that could be involved with just what the potential
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of what this kid could have witnessed well and our experience I just want to say this and maybe this goes without
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saying when you have teachers I love teachers but somebody like the guy I played with
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his name is Bobby he he specialized in teaching kids with autism make sure you take the time out to let
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them know what they're doing is so special and changing the lives of so many people okay moving on with the
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story well Adam does not put up any type of fight when they go to arrest him and
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we mentioned that Adam Matos not the smartest guy not at the top of the list of smart guys but when they bring Adam
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in for questioning this is very smart the detectives they don't tell Adam that they found the bodies of Megan her
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parents and Nick Leonard right no instead detectives tell Adam that he's being arrested on domestic violence
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charges that stem from that first 9-1-1 call from Megan so at the police station detectives tell
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Matos that hey you're here on these charges but your son is here too we need to release him
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to the custody of someone yeah who should that be yeah we got to take this kid somewhere how about we
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take him back to his mother Megan that would be the first option that makes the most sense right Adam uh do you know if
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that's going to be possible if we could locate Megan and easily locate her and return Tristan to her while we sort out
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this deal of the domestic violence charging his answer is I don't know I would know
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but it's like you you should know the detectives go okay well they're going to give him a pass on that they say well
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how about Megan's parents can he stay with them maybe again Adam says well you can check on
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that you can call and ask if they will keep him and he says hey our relationship my relationship with Megan
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is certainly troubled you can see this by this domestic assault charge so I don't know what the deal is with
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her but you can call her parents and ask detective says well when did you guys break up Adam says a week ago Detective
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a week ago okay do you remember what that was about Adam matto says well it was just a bunch
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of drama a bunch of [ __ ] you know and he denies that he attacked Megan in that jealous rage the on that morning
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when she called 9-1-1 well let's face it I mean it they should be called relationships
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you know instead of relationships the detectives asked do you know if she's seeing anyone else Adam says I
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wouldn't know that but he does admit that they got into a loud argument didn't attack her but they got into a
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loud argument and this would have been after Megan arrived home that morning he says that her mother Maggie
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here's this argument tells me to leave and so I left it wasn't until he was locked up for this domestic violence
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charge that Adam he starts to learn that the detectives had fooled him and I actually found the
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bodies of Megan her parents and Nick Leonard earlier right so in a newspaper interview Adam denies
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killing them and there's some footage that can be seen of this where the the officers and
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detectives are walking atom down a street or maybe an alley and they they're get they're trying to put
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them into a car they keep getting stopped by this horde of reporters right who want to ask Adam
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what's going on we got a quadruple homicide here you're in handcuffs did you kill those people
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he is so unbelievably calm yeah he does he's not sweating he's not red-faced his answers are short and to
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the point he says of course I don't know a lot he even gives a little attitude too like
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well why did you take Tristan from from the house he's my son so at some point he's being interviewed
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by a newspaper Adam denies killing them and with detectives in the room he says oh they're dead they've been murdered
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you know who you might want to look at is the jealous ex-girlfriend of Nick Leonards right we were talking about
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this earlier off the Record is how how calm he is but how effortlessly he can just lie and it it's really hard
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normally you can kind of read somebody and go okay well that comment or that statement doesn't seem to add up and you
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can kind of tell by their body language but he's just so nonchalant I mean it's very
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very impressive on how he's very calm cold and just lying through his teeth he's got an answer for everything and
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when he can't provide one he simply says I don't know but he doesn't say I don't know in like
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a dumb way though no he's he says it very matter-of-factly like I I don't know because I wouldn't know I've
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already explained to you that I wasn't there at that time or I you know I'd already been gone by that time so I
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don't know I would he even says sometimes I wouldn't know the detectives now with this information with the
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ex-girlfriend jealous ex-girlfriend information they very quickly figure out that she the ex-girlfriend has an
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airtight Alibi right but right but hold on it also helps that she's in Wichita Kansas like you've got right to make
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make sense of it that she wasn't in the area at the time but I was thinking about this when researching the case
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could you imagine being law enforcement and you you have the guy you're almost a
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hundred percent sure that this dick face in front of you is the guy responsible for this horrible
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horrible murder murders and he is saying well I don't know this and I don't know that and he's cool and
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he's calm and cl he's Collective and then when you tell him one I think it's a big tell that he wasn't very emotional
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once you say hey your girlfriend the mother of your child and her whole family has been murdered that there's no
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emotion there but he's going hey who you should look into as her new boyfriend had a crazy ex
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and so you're probably thinking that again this is just another [ __ ] lie but when you look into her
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she stalked him and harassed multiple women that he was in contact with multiple women that he tried to date
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so there was some validity to that story or that idea but as law enforcement you're like we
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have to follow this lead but there's a part of you that's like your mind would have been blown if it
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wasn't Adam if it was this girl right and I think the situation here is like the the papers and the media really
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make a big deal of this like he dropped a bombshell on the detectives I don't think it was like that for the
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detectives at all I think the detectives were as you said had this guy dead the rights pretty much and thought you know
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what this is our guy 100 but you know what we're going to do our due diligence we're going to cover all of our bases
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here if and when we take this guy to court this possibility this Theory will be presented by someone the defense
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we need to show this Theory does not track it doesn't track at all it didn't happen she has an airtight alibi
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but again it's it's plausible because we know Nick Leonard was filing in the process of filing a formal complaint
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about harassment against this woman at the time of his murder the thing here though is you really got to get the
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traumatized autistic young four-year-old boy to talk was he a witness did he witness anything and if he did what was
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it and unfortunately what detectives will learn it takes some time to pry that door open slowly pry that door open
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but Tristan just four years old witnessed a bloody massacre he witnessed his mother his grandparents being killed
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eventually he describes two investigators hearing The Gunshot that killed his mother
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he says that he heard his mother saying please don't Tristan tells them that he and this is
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he's kind of trying to reenact this in a way using a doll he wrapped it up in a little blanket
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and he starts pounding it saying mommy mommy and finally the poor kid points his
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finger at his own father saying Daddy killed Mommy [Music] thank you foreign [Music]
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thanks for joining us thanks for telling a friend cheers mates and this is the garage wishing everybody
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a happy and safe Halloween yeah for sure and enjoy the trick-or-treats watch out
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for the razor blades and the candy there you go all right so Adam Matos he is going to lawyer up the state is building
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a case against him for a quadruple homicide and for this the State of Florida is going to seek the death
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penalty now Adam Matos will be tried for the four homicides in 2017. he does decide
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to take the stand and we have some audio from The Trial [Music] hello hi please state your name Adam
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Matos let's cut right to the chase shell Adam Matos on August 28 2014. did Nicholas Leonard put his hands on
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your throat yes he did did he threaten your life with a gun yes he did you get in a fight with him yes
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did you defend yourself yes I did did you kill him yes why he tried to kill me Adam Matos on August 28 2014 say Gregory
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Brown threaten your life did he pulled the trigger yes did you get into a shootout with him yes
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I did did you defend yourself yes did you kill him yes I did why he tried to kill me
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edamatos on August 28 2014 was Megan brown with Nicholas Leonard when Nicholas Leonard had his hands on your
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throat yes he was was she with Gregory Brown when he threatened your life with his rifle yes
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she was she with Gregory Brown when he tried to shoot you with his wife yes did she say anything as he was pulling
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his rifle at you she said Dad shoot him shoot him dead did you defend yourself against them yes
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did you kill her yes why I thought that she was gonna kill me as well how about Margaret Brown
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did you believe that she was trying to kill you yes did you fear for your life though yes
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what were your feelings when you killed her I was lost I was hurt I was I was in shock I was
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out of my mind and I thought that everyone was out to kill me I felt like she was going to kill me as
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well did you kill her yes did you strike her with a hammer yes was she bleeding a lot yes
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what did you decide to do to her head uh there was a lot of blood and um to stop the blood from getting
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everywhere I bought a trash bag over her head anything else um you put over in helping put the trash
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bag overhead and keeping that blood contained I used tape to close the bag to prevent blood from
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getting leaking out was this after you had gotten into the altercation with Nicholas Leonard
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upstairs yes it was she dead or alive and you put the bag over her head she was dead
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well let's talk about the house at uh 7719 Hatteras Drive in Hudson Florida back in August of 2014 okay
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how many bedrooms were being slept in three bedrooms into the house face South yes
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now who slept in the master bedroom on the west side of the house Craig and Margaret
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Greg and Margaret Brown yes I'm gonna refer to this ring as Greg and Margaret train okay okay
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who slept in the Southeast bedroom on the east side of the house closest to the front door Megan and I I want to
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refer to this as Adam and Megan's room okay okay how close is this room Adam and Megan's
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room to the front door about a few feet just a few feet yes who slept in a Northeast bedroom on the
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east side of the house farthest from the front door Tristan I want to call this Tristan's room okay yes
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tell us about the lock on Tristan's bedroom when you were there uh in August of 2014
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before this incident um when we moved there there was just a simple doorknob with a simple lock
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that you could lock it from the inside if the lock had been changed after August 28th of 2000
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um 14 who would have done it it would have to have been Nick or Megan now the two bedrooms on the east side of
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the house they were separated by bathroom correct yes this neighborhood this neighborhood at
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7719 Hatteras Drive are there woods around and close to that neighborhood yes do you ever hear gunshots yes how often
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often uh on a regular basis just during the day or day and night now Megan was Allison friends on the
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night of August 27 2014. correct yes we're going to talk about that a little bit later but right now I want us to
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concentrate on August 28 2014. okay actually what time did Megan Brown get home on August 28 2014 around 5 30 A.M
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has she been out all night long yes were you worried about her yes were you angry yes why
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I was angry about a phone conversation that I had with Nicholas Leonard he let me know that he was having an
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affair with Megan and that she was a [ __ ] and they didn't want to wonder anymore
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certainly you said you talked to uh Nicholas ladder and he advised you know what without getting into things
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like that it just let me know that he didn't want anything to do with her and he was done
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with her he didn't want to be a homewrecker that he was done with her daddy advised you that there was an
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incident that happened at the time ecology yes and did he seem still upset about that
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they seemed upset that there was an incident that occurred that night at the bar and it is um
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didn't tell you that it just it had just occurred yeah he called me as he was leaving the bar getting into a cab and
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tell us about what information he gave from Jefferson Georgia judge if I may come on please
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[Music] it seemed like from after that day they wouldn't be together did you and made him get into an
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argument when she got home at 5 30 in the morning yes we did what was the argument about it was about
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the phone conversation that I had with Nicholas Leonard and tell us what happened
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when she came home I asked her if she she was having an affair with Nicholas Leonard
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she told me that she wasn't and when I asked her about it she denied it and she said that
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Nicholas was stalking her and that he followed her to the bar without getting further into that
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conversation did she leave you to think that there was nothing between her and Nicholas lemon yes she said there was
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nothing going on between them did you believe her 100 percent I don't know what to believe
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tell us what happened after that um I got upset uh pulled out a knife and I asked her where'd you get the
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microphone from the kitchen I asked her what was the truth I just wanted to know
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the truth I didn't want to hurt her she tried to grab the knife out of my hand she cut herself on a finger
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and once I saw this she she had cut herself I Put The Knife Down on a dresser Tristan just woke up
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so I left the house and took my bike and I went up the road Northeast did you pull the dock out to hurt her
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no why did you pull the knife out I just wanted the truth I was upset it was just
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a stupid thing to do did you ever put the knife to her throat no at no time did you scratch or hurt her
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throat anyway no and you never put it up to her throat no you said that she grabbed the knife yes
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did you expect her to do that no where did you go I went Northeast off the road behind
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um a house that was empty and I just laid down and um it's just chain smoking just cooling off
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um were you riding a bicycle yes um why did you leave I just wanted to give her some space
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just get away from the house were you able to cool off yes did you see law enforcement arrived at
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the house I saw law enforcement driving in that general direction towards the house
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did they leave I couldn't see from that angle what did you do I stood there most of the day just
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sleeping chain smoking now by the way let me go back just a little bit was Nicholas Leonard there
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when Megan got home in the morning no it was not was he there when he was at the house no
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was he there when you guys are arguing no you decide to return to the house at 7719 Hatteras Drive yes about what time
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was it between six and seven pm still light outside yes why I wanted to get my things I didn't have
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anything on me so I just wanted to get my belongings I wanted to see if I could say goodbye to
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Tristan and possibly work things out with Megan what time did you go inside approximately
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a little after six and what door did you use to go inside the East entrance that one goes into the East Garage area
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or the stairwell yes it's the only door on the east side of the house right correct
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was the door open it was wide open yes I didn't ask you earlier but about how many dogs were in this house on Hatteras
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Drive 20 dogs describe that one small dogs large dogs small to Tiny how often do these dogs bark all the
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time how would you describe their Market loud they were barky dogs did you hear them more as you went
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upstairs yes I did where are the dogs kept in the house usually in the dining room area
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there's that downstairs or upstairs that's upstairs how far from um yours and Megan's bedroom
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approximately about 10 feet now as you walked up those stairs did you have a gun in your hand no I'm
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not no a bath no a hammer no what if anything you have in your hands nothing at all
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foreign I just wanted to get my things just um gather the stuff that I had when you had
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left did you bring things with you uh no were you able to do that get your things
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no it was a door to you and Megan's room was it closed yes did you open it yes did you step inside yes I did
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you see Megan and Tristan yes as I entered the room they were just coming out did Nicholas let her come up to you yes
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where did he come from he came from the closet area were you able to see where he was coming
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from as far as any length of time before he got to you no he just came out of nowhere
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did he reach uh I'm sorry did he grab you anywhere you could grab me by the throat
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and did he reach for a gun he reached into his right pocket and he pulled out a gun and he pointed it at my chest did
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you grab this guy yes I grabbed his hand and I pointed it towards the ground away
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from me so he wouldn't shoot me did he seem like he was trying to raise the gun toward you yes
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that you struggle to stop him from getting the guns pointed at you we didn't we struggled tell us what
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happened uh there was a lot of wrestling going on we were going around the room um we ended up in the corner by the
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dresser and um I saw a knife on top of the dresser that I used to defend myself and I stabbed him in the arm a few times
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and he released his grip on my throat and um I dropped a knife and we continued to wrestle around I was
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trying to get the gun out of his hands and we wind up falling on the bed So when you say bed
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um was there a actual bed frame or was it just a mattress it was just a mattress on the floor
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it was on the floor you said yes how many times did you established about three times
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and you said that you guys fell on the bed both of you yes let me go back real quick and ask you
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about this knife did you leave this knife on the dresser no do you have hunting knives laying
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around when you have this four-year-old walking around no I do not are you the type of person to keep a knife on a
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dresser no how about under a mattress no foreign guys are struggling did Nicholas
00:37:41
do anything to your face he took the inside of my cheek and he started to rip the flesh from the inside
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out and he's he told me I'm gonna rip your face off did Megan come back Megan and Greg stepped into the room yes
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and tell us what happened as you guys were struggling on the bed and Megan and Greg
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come back Megan uh she screamed out uh Dead shoot him shoot him dead did he have anything
00:38:16
in his hand talking about Greg a rifle in his hand where was that pointed at my chest
00:38:23
did Nick do anything when he saw that Rockwell pointed at you he moved out the way he was still pinning me down my legs
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um he just moved out of the way so gray could have a clear shot at my chest did you say anything to Greg
00:38:40
I asked Greg I said please Greg don't shoot me Greg don't do this Greg you Greg pull the trigger yes he did
00:38:50
what happened he missed wired what was going on after the gun misfire he was trying to get it to work again
00:39:02
and he repeated the steps of trying to shoot me again tell me what's going on with Nick
00:39:09
um while Greg is messing with this gun is he getting stronger or weaker he seemed to be uh weakening
00:39:17
was he bleeding a lot there was a lot of blood he was bleeding a lot from his arm
00:39:26
did Nick uh did Nick sorry did Greg um ever shoot the gun again the second time yes he pulled the trigger again and
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what happened it was a misfire again tell us what happens between you and Nick Leonard
00:39:43
uh as Greg was continuing to try to shoot the gun again um Nicholas loosened his grip on his gun
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and I was able to get it out of his hands did uh you or him shoot the gun yes the
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shot went off towards the wall you guys are struggling for the guy yes and um you said it went toward the wall it went
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through the wall did it put a bullet hole through the wall yes tell us was there a second shot
00:40:23
yes um as I as I grabbed the gun I shot it towards Nicholas was Nick still bleeding from the Stabler
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yes he was did you later find that bullet um from shooting uh that gun the second half yes
00:40:46
I did what'd you do with it I threw it in trash bag and was that the one that was found in
00:40:53
the garage west garage no uh the one that I found that um I thought that hit Nicholas
00:41:03
Leonard I found behind the bed okay and did that did you end up putting that in the trash yes
00:41:12
well you Nick are struggling Greg has shot the gun twice wasn't able to get it to to kill you yes
00:41:22
what happened with Greg and Megan they ran back to his uh bedroom the master bedroom
00:41:28
did you know what was in that master bedroom he had a bunch of weapons in his closet
00:41:35
did you chase after him yes why I felt that he was gonna get another weapon try to kill me
00:41:42
when you got to the master bedroom closet what was Greg doing he was um attempting to load another weapon what
00:41:50
did you do I shot him in his lower back as he was trying to turn around with his
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weapon did he go down then or did he turn around no he had the weapon in his hand and I shot him again
00:42:03
did he go down then yes as you leave the master bedroom closet um tell us what happens next
00:42:12
because I was leaving the closet I could see someone in my peripheral and it was
00:42:17
Megan and I thought she had something in her hand and I just reacted and I shot it where was she at she was by the door
00:42:25
around a corner and did she have something in her hand yes what was it I later found it to be a
00:42:35
cell phone how many times did you shoot one time and um was it around where that bead was
00:42:46
in the master bedroom where the Bullet Hole was in the corner of the wall why'd you do that
00:42:54
I lost it completely I just realized that I killed the woman that I love the mother of my child
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and at that point I I realized it Tristan no longer had a mother he no longer had grandfather
00:43:09
and he no longer had me and at that point I felt like my life was over were you angry at all yes I was very
00:43:19
angry did you place that anger on any particular individual Nicholas Leonard why I was upset that he brought a weapon
00:43:30
into my home did he try to kill me he turned my family against me and tried to have them kill me as well
00:43:40
what'd you do I went back to my bedroom and he was just lying on the bed and he was unconscious
00:43:50
and I was just upset and I was I was just yelling out why why why this had to happen I grabbed a hammer that was on
00:43:59
the floor and I just kept hitting him until I couldn't anymore how many times do you remember hitting
00:44:08
him with that hammer I can't remember it was it was a lot of times was it always with the
00:44:17
into the hammer necessarily that you put the nails in it may have slipped when I
00:44:24
was hitting him what'd you do after this after that um I went and checked on Tristan to make
00:44:36
sure he was okay and he was and I told him to stay in his room there was a lot of blood on me from the
00:44:44
altercation that I had with Nicholas and I washed it off and then I went to check up on Tristan
00:44:54
to make sure that he was okay was he he was okay what'd you tell him I told him everything's gonna be okay I
00:45:01
gave him a hug kissed him on the cheek how did you feel in general after having this entire engine
00:45:10
felt just lost my whole world was turned upside down and I was just I was out of my mind I
00:45:18
was into shock and I felt like a part of me died that day do you have any fear about the cops
00:45:27
shooting you yes I I was in fear that if the cops were to show up that they would
00:45:32
try to kill me as well how about Tristan I was I was I was scared that Tristan was endangered as
00:45:39
well that he might be In Harm's Way that the police were to show up what'd you do with all of these guns uh
00:45:48
Nick Leonard's gun I threw all the weapons in the canal I didn't want any weapons in the house after that incident
00:45:55
I didn't want it to be a threat to anyone else or to me or to Tristan were you afraid that Tristan might see
00:46:03
those bodies I was afraid that he would be exposed to it so I I locked the doors
00:46:09
to the bedrooms where the bodies were yours in Megan's room how'd you lock that door there's a latch on the door
00:46:19
it's um it's a high latch so he wasn't able to reach it and you latch it from the outside of the room
00:46:26
and the master bedroom the master bedroom uh the doorknob to the room was missing so you couldn't
00:46:34
just step into the room and um we had to be a strong strong person to turn it because it didn't have
00:46:41
the knob there it was just a piece of metal and I put a dog cage in front of the door to keep them from getting in
00:46:55
what did you and Tristan do um at that point uh but it was very fuzzy by um memory
00:47:05
of what what happened that day later um I was just lost out of it and I was just chain smoking a
00:47:15
lot what happens when Margaret comes home from work I heard the dogs barking and um
00:47:25
at that point I was I was still out of it and I was in shock and I was scared that people might be coming to the house
00:47:31
to kill me and if you saw Margaret would you did you feel that she was in on it yes I
00:47:38
felt that she would try to kill kill me as well where was Tristan what was he doing he
00:47:43
was in his room sleeping so what did you do I went down to the garage with the hammer that I used on
00:47:51
Nicholas and I killed Margaret in the west garage hallway you ran downstairs and met her down
00:48:00
there yes I did how did you kill her I hit her over the head a few times foreign
00:48:15
[Music] and that's the perfect spot to stop that clip they actually interview him on the
00:48:25
stand for about an hour of course they have cross-examination the problem with his testimony is it doesn't take any
00:48:33
genius here to figure out that this guy is completely lying to everyone he's trying to manipulate the story to save
00:48:40
his own ass remember he's being charged with quadruple homicide he is being threatened with the punishment of death
00:48:47
by the state of Florida he is choosing his words very carefully and his defense attorney is helping him to do so he's
00:48:56
trying to paint a picture and put the victims themselves in a bad light he says that it was Nick that called Megan
00:49:05
a [ __ ] he says that it was Megan that tells him that Nick is a stalker that these two are not involved in any kind
00:49:13
of relationship these are their words these are them telling me both that the other is a bad person and then I snuck
00:49:20
into the the house around 6 pm and I was attacked I went in there to get my belongings to possibly say
00:49:28
goodbye to my son and try to work things out with Megan and I was attacked I love
00:49:35
that he chooses to use the words I was mad at Nick Leonard because he came into my home it wasn't your home dude you
00:49:45
were living there with the Browns the Browns were nice enough to allow you to stay at their house
00:49:51
it wasn't your home I was mad that he brought a firearm into my home and put my family in danger this wasn't your
00:50:01
family it was your son that was in the house Megan had moved on from you the Browns weren't interested in you and
00:50:08
other than helping you be the father be a good father to their grandson that's the only interest they had in you
00:50:16
it's not your family it's not your home and here's the good reason that I say that we stop it at that point because
00:50:23
what they end on is that we have Margaret who we've been calling Maggie her friends and family call her Maggie
00:50:29
Maggie comes home from work we already put this timeline together for you 11 25 p.m his own testimony says he puts
00:50:37
himself inside that home being attacked by Nick Leonard and then by Greg Brown in the six o'clock hour
00:50:46
this all goes down very quickly he murders Nick Leonard Then Greg Brown then Megan Brown and he's so scared to
00:50:55
death he's so scared and Afraid for his own life and personal safety that he just waits around in the house for five
00:51:03
hours and then kills Maggie when she comes home from work complete [ __ ] and this is what these Psychopaths do
00:51:13
what went down that night is he sat outside that home knowing that Maggie would return to the house after 11 11
00:51:21
o'clock he lived there he knew their schedules she went to work at 3 pm as usual got off at 11 PM as usual returned
00:51:30
to the house he knew that that was his ticket to get inside that house and do what he planned to do which was murder
00:51:38
everyone in there with the exception of his son Tristan he knew that Nick Leonard was inside
00:51:45
that home the victim's vehicle was parked in front of the house he attacks Maggie in the garage she
00:51:53
cannot make it all the way into the house he beats her to death ties her up puts a trash bag over her head and then
00:52:00
his testimony oh I couldn't have broke into the house I couldn't have been sneaking into the house there was 20
00:52:05
dogs in there that were yellow yappers and barkers there's no way that I could have snuck
00:52:11
up on these individuals because of these dogs [ __ ] he went into that room and very likely we have
00:52:19
Nick Leonard and Megan who are asleep or getting ready to do so he got the jump on Nick
00:52:27
he hit him 21 times in the head with a hammer when Megan freaked out she sees what's
00:52:36
happening she flees to the room of her father trying to wake her father and say he's in the house
00:52:44
Greg grabs a gun he's trying to load the gun in his closet in his bedroom he didn't walk into Megan's room
00:52:53
no this animal this monster beat this man to death Nick Leonard 21 times in the head takes his gun walks into the
00:53:03
master bedroom and shows what kind of coward he is he shoots the man in the back
00:53:10
shoots him again and then Megan begs for her life and he gets up and shoots her close at close
00:53:19
range one shot it only took one shot right into the left eye he killed four people and then what did
00:53:29
this monster do he hung out at the house for damn near a week ordering pizzas using Margaret's credit card to make
00:53:38
purchases he tries to sell their belongings on Craigslist he successfully sold several
00:53:44
of the dogs yeah he sold dogs he sold Furniture then he goes to the store and he buys the shovel
00:53:51
tries to dig a grave can't so he has to go well what's next put him in the car move them dump them in the
00:54:00
woods still living at the house he was still hanging out at the house when the police
00:54:05
came to make their welfare check that's why they found the open door he panics he flees the area grabs the
00:54:14
sun oh my God the cops are at the front door this place is a bloody mess I couldn't even bother to clean it up
00:54:20
I couldn't successfully bury anybody runs out the back door leaves that door open he takes a canoe we talked about
00:54:30
those canals he went down one of the canals about about a mile or so calls a cab takes a cab to the bus stop rides
00:54:38
the bus stop the bus to the hotel in Tampa where they eventually pick him up now where this guy got lucky where Adam
00:54:47
Matos got lucky he's a complete psychopath complete psychopath I thought you're gonna call him a sack of [ __ ]
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complete sack of [ __ ] psychopath he gets lucky he got spared the death penalty
00:55:02
there was a juror it has to be unanimous in Florida 12 out of 12. 12 out of 12 11
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out of 12 said yes killed this man one person was kind and compassionate enough to
00:55:17
spare adamatos's life Adam Matos it will cost taxpayers in the state of Florida 904 thousand dollars to house him for
00:55:30
the entirety of his life foreign [Music] for all of our old episodes download the
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