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around, grab a chair, grab a beer. Let's talk some true crime. Yesterday, Captain, we did a fairly good
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job of going through the timeline and all of picking apart some of the items found at the scene and what they could
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mean and what they might not mean and what it could point us towards as we work our way towards getting to some of
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the theories, the popular theories, theories of the public and theories of our own, as well as suspects and to the
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abduction of 27-year-old Jodi Huisentruit. And a lot of the points that you're going to bring up, there's a lot of
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speculation too. So, for all the speculation, please, this is your warning. Turn it off if you don't like
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speculation. Yeah, and we're going to sift through some of this and see if we can come up with some answers or in the
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very least eliminate some of the possibilities that people have thrown out there. Mhm. So, when it comes to
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theories, I found this article that I think is a great lead into the theory section. It's an article featuring a
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reporter who was interviewing an FBI agent and a Mason City police officer regarding the abduction of Jodi. The
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reporter asked, "Do you think you've interviewed the person who committed this crime?" The FBI agent responds to
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the question saying, "I don't know. I don't know. It makes you wonder." Then the reporter asked, "Do you think that
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this case Do you think that this is a case where you know who did it but just cannot prove it?" The Mason City police
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officer answers, "I don't think so. There are so many different stories and theories and possibilities that I don't
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think we could ever narrow it down to who did it. Right now, it's trying to figure out what happened to Jodi. Where
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is she? And then work backwards from there." And I He brings up a very good point
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here, Captain. He's very right, the officer. We don't know what happened or the result of this abduction. We have no
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body. So, there is only a cold trail that leads to her being grabbed and taken in the parking lot of her
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apartment complex. With no result or no body, there is nothing. There's no dots to connect.
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Now, the FBI agent goes on to say if if it was anybody but Jodi, and because she was a local news anchor, you could
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say it was a chance encounter, but you can't rule out the fact that someone was stalking her just because of who she
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was. And the officer's thought thoughts regarding the crime is if you're a kidnapper,
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there are a lot of possibilities that you should have gotten caught. In an apartment complex, there are a lot of
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windows facing out. What a risky place to abduct someone. So, you think maybe it was someone that knew her.
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There again, what if it was someone who was just lurking around the apartments looking for prey. So, some items to keep
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in mind regarding theories as we go through these as to what the police and FBI's agents' thoughts were at the time.
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So, as you can see, there were no shortage of theories out there. But let's start off by going
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through some of the theories that have been discussed on other platforms regarding what is likely to have
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happened to Jodi. The theories are this. Let's do this, Captain. Let's list out these theories and then we'll kind of go
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through them one at a time if that's okay with you. Mhm. All right. So, one, someone that she knew abducted and
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killed her. Two, someone stalking her abducted and killed her. Now, this could either be
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someone she knows or does not know. Three, total stranger on stranger attack or like a serial killer, someone spots her
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leaving that day and grabs her. Mhm. Some of these are a little more out there. That's my warning as we move on
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to these next ones. Four, the police killed her. Five, drugs. That somehow drugs were
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involved. Either she was using or she reported on something and someone got upset. And six, someone from work,
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possible co-worker, was involved in her abduction and murder. Well, let's start backwards. So,
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let's start with the first one, a co-worker. Yeah, and this one is a weird one and but I don't think it's so far
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out there because there's a lot of online speculation regarding Amy Koopmans specifically.
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Now, this is the girl that called her that day, woke her up, said, "Hey, are you coming to work?" and then then fills
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in for her for that day. I want to paint the real picture of of her co-workers and of that television
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station there. So, even though Jodi was missing, there was a long time that she was still
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technically employed by the television station. That she was They were getting people to constantly fill in for her for
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months and months and months after the fact. People People pulling together. This is where I see a kind of close-knit
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group that considers each other friends on some level, kind of pulling together for this young woman who has gone
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missing. Someone that they Probably lots of them cared very deeply about. Well, it also shows that there wasn't somebody
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next in line to to take her spot. Yeah, and as you pointed out yesterday, Captain, it is a very competitive
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business. There's a lot of people that want to be on TV. I'm sure that the the position pays well.
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Usually, the people working under somebody, under the anchor there, are people that aspire to be a news anchor
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someday. So, that's why some suspicion has fallen on Amy Koopmans throughout the years. Now,
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over the years, many of her co-workers have been interviewed. And many of them seem to be
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very willing to sit down and and be a part of these interviews. Right. And the other thing we want got
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to keep in mind here is like we said yesterday, there was a thought at the time that there was an
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increasing that that this was an increasing thing. That there was unwanted attention from
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females that worked on television, worked on camera, that they were receiving a lot of unwanted attention
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from male viewers. And it was of concern to everybody in the industry. So, a lot of the
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surrounding areas would often feature Jodi's crime as well or Jodi's case as well because they're trying to bring
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attention to this. They're trying to put an end to this, an awareness to this situation. Now, her co-workers, more
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specifically, one had nothing but great things to say for for Jodi. With the exception, I will
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say I think the reason why there's been some suspicion cast on Amy Koopmans is that she's not always said wonderful,
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bright, shiny things about Jodi. And now, keep in mind, she worked side by side with her day after day after
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day. Mhm. Captain, I love you. You're one of my one of my longest friends. Um And but but But I'm sure that there are
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people that are aware that there's times that we bicker at one another on the show or we have a disagreement on the
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show regarding something. It's I talk [ __ ] about you all the time. I know, and
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I find that strange that I seem to have your back, but you you have a different opinion of our relationship. Yeah, if
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you ever go missing, they'd know where to But moving on to the point where here's where I don't find anything
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suspicious about Amy's behavior. And you know, some people first people bring up
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the fact that are they were they in fact friends? I don't think that they were. I don't I
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actually don't think that there's anything to suggest that they were friends. And I don't think at any time
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Amy pretends that they were friends. She makes it sound like what we were co-workers first off, but you
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also have to understand she technically was my boss. Yeah, but also if you're being
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interviewed with the police, right? That sometimes you you know, if you just paint this
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you know, glitz and glamour portrayal of this person that might not be the actual truth. And the more
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truthful that you can be with police officers, the more that they can follow certain leads and figure out, you know,
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maybe if we can figure out who Jodi is that we can figure out what happened to her. And I do want to point out we we
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talked about the birthday party, Jodi's surprise birthday party, 27th birthday party.
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Amy was not on the invited list for that party. So I think this would further back up
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that they were just they were more co-workers and less friends. At no time has the police ever said that they
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suspect anybody that she works with. At no time. And to back that up a little bit more is we have Amy Coons who
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has done a bazillion, and I think that number is extremely accurate, a bazillion interviews regarding her
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relationship with Jodi, regarding their And then the telephone call, too. Yeah. So here's the thing. I think that
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ultimately police have a much better idea on this than we do as they should. I think that
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the public might be jumping to conclusions here thinking Amy could be a suspect. I don't know so much about her
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other co-workers, but she's the one that I'm focusing in on because she's the one
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that we know the most about because she's done a bazillion interviews over the years. But what police did with Amy
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was they brought her to the actual crime scene. They brought her to where Jodi was abducted. They brought her into her
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apartment and had her look through her things to verify, "Hey, tell us what she might have been wearing
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when she was abducted, so when we when we give out her physical description, we can give out what we think she was
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wearing at the time." Right. And the thing is, I really think that see, here's the alibi. Amy has an
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alibi, and the alibi is what you just said, the phone call. Right. If in fact that she spoke with her at 4:10, and she
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was busy working, she was observed by other people at this television station during the time of when Jodi would have
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been abducted. Now Yes, there's some more far-fetched ideas out there that that Amy could have killed her the night
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before and pretended that those phone calls happened. Yes. Or Amy That's a possibility, or it's kind of a
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Tonya Harding Nancy Kerrigan type thing where you're going to place these calls at the same
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time you know that somebody is abducting her. So I'm going to go ahead and rule out the first possibility of that Amy
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was involved somehow and something happened to Jodi the night before, and then Amy later faked those phone calls.
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And the the reason why I'm going to rule that out as a possibility is I think the
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police were able to rule it out. I don't I don't have confirmation of this, but what I believe to be confirmation of
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this is that they in fact must have ruled Amy out as a suspect enough that they brought her to the crime scene,
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that they brought her into the apartment to get her opinion on different things of what she would see there. So you're
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kind of ruling out co-workers. I'm not going to just yet, but I also don't think the motive is that strong.
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So let's go to the next theory of that possibly there was some drugs involved somehow. Yes, and there's kind of two
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thoughts to this this theory. Um Mhm. One that Jodi had been reporting on something on some drug activity
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and had gotten too close to the story and someone wanted to silence her. Mhm. The other portion of this drug theory is
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that maybe was Jodi herself using drugs. And I I think I'd like to address that one first, and then we can get into the
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the investigative reporting aspect of it. Yeah, I mean it's pretty clear, right? I mean there's no evidence or
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even rumors that she did drugs. We this is this again is where Amy where people question her co-worker Amy
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Coons because there is in a in an interview where they ask her directly, "At any
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time did you think that Jodi was on drugs?" And Amy said, "Well, there was a lot of times that
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Jodi would show up and she would be very tired and not seem real dedicated, not really applying herself, kind of out of
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it for the first few hours of her shift, and sometimes we would find her sleeping
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in editing bays during her shift. Right. And at other times she would be really tired one moment and then very
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hyper and excited the next, as well as she she could have mood swings where she would yell at a co-worker or yell at
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somebody that was um you know, worked for her, and then the next minute be on top of the world
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saying how much she loved her job and how much she loved everybody she worked with.
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Well, it really seemed that Jodi was driven. I think in her journals you can see
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where she writes down different goals of where she'd like to be at at a certain time.
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So, but she's also very young. I mean I'd say very young, but 27 it's like you you think, "Well, I'm approaching 30. I
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got some stuff figured out," but you really don't. Well, very young in a very professional setting. Mhm. You know,
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it's you could be you could be 27 and working at Cedar Point and and seem like a very adult
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professional person. I mean you could take that same person and you put them working for I don't know, the oil
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industry or some kind of big capitalism industry and they don't seem so um mature.
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So I think for me, as far as her behavior, I can't answer to. Maybe that was her behavior all the time. Maybe she
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was just an excited person that would be that could be angry one moment and very
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happy the next moment. Well, obviously if you're getting into work you know, 4:00 in the morning, that at
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some point you're going to get your your second wind or your first wind and you're going to come to life and go,
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"Okay, here we go. It's time to get some work done." And I have to believe that that position, especially being an
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on-camera person, probably comes with a high level of pressure. Mhm. You know, at times she could have felt like she
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was in the pressure cooker, and then at other times that camera shuts off and there's
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probably some relief. You know, "Oh, I made it through the day," or "Oh, I did a great job on that piece."
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The thing here is Amy has said outright that it was those types of behavior that
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led her to suspect that drugs were a possibility. I don't think there was any other any evidence
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other than her behavior that there was any types of drugs involved. You know, nobody seen anything
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to to to 100% point to drugs. I think too that you bring up a good a good thought there, Captain, is that
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we have this young woman, 27. She has to get up and be at work at 3:00 a.m. Mhm.
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How many times, and I have reports from a woman that she worked with named Robin Wolfer, I'm sorry,
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Wolstrom, I believe is her name. Forgive me. She was the she was the evening anchor.
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Yeah. And she would say that she didn't get off till 10:00 or 10:30 at night, and that the two of them were very
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close. Jodi and her were very close. And she said that sometimes she would get a
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phone call from Jodi at 10:00, 10:30 at night and say, "What are you doing tonight, Robin? Do
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you have any plans?" And Robin Robin would say, "Hey, don't you have to be at work at 3:00 a.m.?" And Jodi would
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say things like, "Look, you know, life is meant for living. You know, I I I can sleep later." And I think one
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thing that we see here with her falling asleep in the editing bays, I just think
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she wasn't wasn't fully equipping herself to work at 3:00 a.m. every morning. Mhm. We all know people that have fallen
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into vicious cycles of, you know, outgoing people that like to go out every night, and what do they do? They
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fall into a vicious cycle of wake up early, go to work, work as hard as you can, come home, you take a little bit of
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a nap, your phone rings, and you're out again that night, and you fall into the same cycle day after day after day.
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Well, she's also in a town by herself, and we know that she likes to drink beer.
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So maybe she likes to be social, and maybe that makes her not feel so alone. Hey, let's go have a couple drinks, and
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we're you know, I'm not going to feel so alone here where my family is so far away, and my friends are so far away.
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More importantly, if in fact she was rushing off to work with very little time to prepare,
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and she's abducted then, and next thing you know, police are in her apartment going through her things, you think they
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would have found something to suggest that she was using drugs. And this was not the case, and I think the reason why
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we can prove that that's not the case, they never seem to be following up on that angle. They never seem to be
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working that angle. So, I think we can I think we can squash the Jody was on drugs
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thought there that there has been a small amount of chatter that I think it should just be quieted.
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What if drugs were involved, then what might be more likely was that she was reporting on something and somebody
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thought that she should be silenced. Yeah, and it could be some kind of drug thing that she's going
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to report on, but there was also this criminal case going on where a man was going to be charged with murder, Billy
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Prune. And so, a lot of people think so one of the pieces of of evidence is that her
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briefcase was missing. And so, a lot of people think that is evidence that there was something in there that she
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was going to report on. The issue here though is that she's technically a anchor and she wasn't
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technically a journalist. Right. And and you bring up a very good a good point there. And a little more on this Billy
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Prune person, he was somebody that would later commit suicide. He was, I believe,
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charged with three homicides. They were all related to illegal drug activity. Right. And it's thought that he was some
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kind of drug lord or or or kingpin in this area and he was up to all these bad things. She's reporting on these on
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these stories. So, naturally people wonder, well, did he decide to go and kidnap her and
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silence her? Yeah, or put a hit out on her. There and there's here's what the police have said. The
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And these are these are their words. That for someone to believe that she got too close to a story or she knew too
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much, the port the person would have to be crazy. And that's their words. And what they mean by that is what you were
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just what you were just feeding us there, Captain, is this that she sat behind a
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desk. She didn't do investigative reporting. She wasn't doing the investigation. She was simply reporting
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it and telling all of us about say simply. That's a lot harder than people make it out to be. No, but but it
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but she was an anchor anchor, not a journalist. I'm not degrading her job. I'm just
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saying that when you when you break it down, she's reporting it to the rest of us.
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Right. She's not out investigating it. She's not knocking on doors, following leads, making phone calls. She's just
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saying, this is what we believe happened. This is what we know to have happened. This man's facing these
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charges. So, in a sense, the police are exactly right that the person would have to take
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it to the next level and believe that she knows something that she would not have known. Right. And furthermore,
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if you're going to go silence her, isn't she just reporting what everyone else in
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the area would be reporting as well? Wouldn't you have to go and silence everyone that you saw on TV? Possibly,
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unless she got some lead or a tip that she's keeping close to the vest. And and this person knew about it. I mean,
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I think the main thing to focus on here is that she you know, Jody is missing, but so is her briefcase.
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Okay. And you bring up a good point. The with the briefcase having gone missing,
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then you would think that there must be Why would somebody drag that along with them in the process of abducting her?
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Mhm. That would lead you to believe that their name or some reference to them or
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some phone number or something in her information kept in that briefcase could be traced back to them.
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All right. Cheers, mates. Cheers, Captain. And while we have our glasses raised, I want to point out to everybody
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that it is National Police Officer Week. So, a thank you to all of the dedicated
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officers, past and present. And in particular, we would like to honor officers Eric Joering and Anthony
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Morelli, two Westerville officers that were killed on duty earlier this year. May they rest in peace and God bless
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their families. And thank you to all the good people that came together to honor
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them. Now, where we left off, Captain, we were going through these different thoughts
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and theories. And the one that we just went through, the Billy Prune's theory. Right. That either he was
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involved or someone that he knew had killed Jody. We want to point out there that I don't
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want anybody to get the impression that we just glossed over it for no reason at
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all. The thing is, there's been a lot of people that have looked into this theory
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and they have many good reasons to dismiss it. And actually, my personal thoughts on this theory is while it's a
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very interesting story and it's an interesting possibility, for me, very quickly in looking into it,
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I was able to There was so many question marks that I thought there are so many more likely possibilities in this case
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that if you want to spend your time on it, we don't have the time today. So, if you want to spend some time on that,
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that's something you can certainly look into. I encourage you to, but I think you'll find a lot of the same question
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marks and red flags that I found as well. Well, and there's another kind of out there theory, too, that of these
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that the cops are responsible. And that comes from this lady that worked for the
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police department and she claims that there was three men that worked for the police department or maybe three police
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officers that for whatever reason decided to abduct Jody. Yeah, so this is Officer Maria Ohl
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and I'm hoping that I'm saying her last name right. It's O H L if anybody wants to look into that. But she is no longer
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an officer with the Mason City Police Department. She has been released from there because she has violated several
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of the department's regulations. Now, the she's an interesting part of this story,
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too, because she states the reason why she was let go is because she had information that these three officers
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were involved in the abduction and murder of Jody Huisentruit. And how did she come across this information? It was
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she is the sister-in-law of a reverend at one of the local churches there. And this is
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um a reverend that received information from a guy named Donald Milk. And this person
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called the reverend and spoke to him back in 2010, I believe, informed the reverend that he had information of
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police misconduct and he knew where Jody's body was. That is what I have heard to be his
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as close as you can get to his exact words. That he was aware of police misconduct.
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He was afraid of the police and he knew that where Jody's body was. I think from
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that is where the story pulls together and states that well, these the police might have been
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involved in this. Right. So, she's the sister-in-law of this reverend. He shares the information with her because
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he I don't think he knew where to take this information. And she was a police officer at the time. So, she runs into
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this sticky situation of well, who does she go to? You know, when people that you work for
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might have been involved in something, do you go to them or do you not go to them? This
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what makes this even more weird is that the the police department comes right out and says, look,
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she says she had this information on us and that she has evidence against us. And we're letting her go because of that
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information that she had and the way that she handled that evidence. So, it's a it's a very weird story and I
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encourage people to check that out. And and if you want to check out the Billy Prune story as well, more of that
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information, you can find there's a very good website out there called findjody.com. It's been dedicated to
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finding Jody Huisentruit and it's been put together by a lot of investigative journalists and reporters that have
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worked this case very hard and continue to work it to this day. So, if you are interested in those angles, I encourage
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you to check that out. We have to move on from those theories though, Captain, because there are some much more likely
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theories in in my very humble garage opinion. And those being that either she was
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abducted and killed by somebody that either knew her or that was stalking her. Well, I put a lot more weight into this
00:28:44
based on the evidence of her calling people and saying that this truck, you know, and the funny thing is there's
00:28:52
twice that she has mentioned a black truck. And then you start wondering, is it the
00:28:58
same person that is stalking her? Yeah, here's one weird thought though and we talked about her journal a little bit.
00:29:05
Now, where the police have done Okay, so there there's been Look, without getting
00:29:11
too far into it, the police have not done a great job on every aspect of this investigation. I'll go ahead and throw
00:29:17
that out there. Personally, I feel like they spent too much time looking in or around the river very quickly in this
00:29:24
investigation where I think they could have been looking for things to lead them to other possibilities. Well, but
00:29:30
in their defense, they did get some hits. You know, some scent dog hits. And the
00:29:35
other the other angle here where I don't think they did a great job and I don't know who this There's probably only one
00:29:42
person to blame here. But Jody's journal that she kept in her apartment that was found in her
00:29:48
apartment after she was abducted Mhm. was taken into evidence and it was somehow leaked to the media. Somebody
00:29:57
had sent copies, you know, like photocopied the pages and sent them to the media. That happened from somebody
00:30:03
within the department. We don't know who did it, but you bring up this black truck and you bring bring up the
00:30:10
possible harassment or was there somebody stalking her and we know that she had some of these thoughts because
00:30:16
she shared them with family. She filed a police report. The weird thing self-defense classes. The weird thing
00:30:23
though is I I went through what I could find of her journal online and I didn't see any
00:30:29
any mention or reference to those incidences in that journal, which I found a little strange. You know what I
00:30:36
mean? Like if that was Well, it depends on what your journal is meant for. Some people will have a
00:30:42
uh you know, like a gratitude journal. So, at the end of each day you kind of go over
00:30:48
a lot of the good things that happened and what you're appreciative for and you don't spend a bunch of time on what is
00:30:54
weighing you down. Right. And hers appears to be a lot of career goals uh and personal goals, but
00:31:03
it also does state a lot of recounting the day's events. Right, but all normally in a positive
00:31:10
light though. Yes. Yes, you're exactly right. just what I'm wondering is that maybe
00:31:16
she was the type of person that was like, "Well, that did bother me, but there's no point of
00:31:21
you know, cuz some people want to go back and read their journal here and there a year later, but they don't want
00:31:27
to hear every negative thing." Mhm. Yeah, that's a good point. Now, we do have two of two suspects that have been
00:31:35
discussed much more than anybody else. Do you have a preference on order, Captain, as how we
00:31:41
get into that? One is a a so-called friend of hers or might be friend of hers and one was a a man that she did
00:31:50
not know. Let's start with the one she did not know. Okay, so this is a man by the name of Tony Jackson.
00:32:00
So, he was a man that lived just a couple of blocks away from the television station where Jodi had
00:32:07
worked. Right, and she didn't live that far away from the station. No, and what's
00:32:12
important here is that later this man would be brought up on and convicted of three separate counts of rape. So, he's
00:32:21
a serial rapist that lived in the area of where she lived and worked. crimes he's convicted of happened in
00:32:28
1997. This took place in 1995. So, how does he get on the police's radar? Well, I think
00:32:35
the way that he got onto the police radar was that the media found this guy. The investigative journalist and
00:32:42
reporter found this guy and made some connections here because of these crimes, being a serial rapist, and then
00:32:50
later learning that he was in fact living in the area just blocks from where she lived and worked.
00:32:56
Right. So, here here's what I was able to track down that on July 10th, 1998, the assistant county attorney who
00:33:04
successfully prosecuted Tony Jackson for rape in Minnesota said that she believes
00:33:10
that he is responsible for the disappearance of Iowa TV anchorwoman Jodi Huisentruit 3 years ago. Quote, "In
00:33:18
my own mind and in my own heart, I think he did it." said the assistant county attorney.
00:33:26
She told the Des Moines Register for a story that was published on the following day. What she's pointing out
00:33:33
is that this man is a patterned sex offender. And then again quote, goes on to say, "Knowing what I know about him,"
00:33:42
this is Tony Jackson, "the way he has been involved as a rapist, I would bet my bottom dollar
00:33:48
that Jackson abducted Jodi Huisentruit." Yeah, but this is coming from the prosecutor that prosecuted him, but then
00:33:55
there's later some maybe a jailhouse confession. Yeah, and some information regarding
00:34:03
Tony Jackson that does not So, Jackson would come out and he he actually called the the news station
00:34:10
that was reporting that he could be involved in this. Mhm. And he contacted them and he said,
00:34:15
"Look, I'm not involved in in Jodi's abduction or murder. I don't even know who she is. I never met her. We did not
00:34:25
know each other." Um And I you know, I should clear I should clean that up a little bit, Captain. I
00:34:32
can't state that he didn't know who she was. He could have known her from TV, but he states not they didn't know each
00:34:37
other, the two. Personally. Yeah. So, the the things that don't look good for this man is that there were record
00:34:45
records obtained by this TV station, which is WCCO, that found that Jackson had purchased a
00:34:53
car the day before Jodi was before she disappeared. What kind of car? I have no idea. But he returned
00:35:02
It didn't seem important, so I didn't add those to my notes. The important thing is though, this vehicle was
00:35:07
purchased the day before and then it was returned just a couple weeks later. Uh this was because the check that he
00:35:15
had written for the vehicle had bounced. Mhm. The other thing that's strange is Jackson worked the evening shift as a at
00:35:25
a meat packing plant. Mhm. So, the night before Huisentruit disappeared, he left
00:35:32
work early saying that he had hurt his leg and was going to an emergency room. Now, WCCO
00:35:40
does not back up if he actually went to the emergency room or not, but they report that he left work early. What
00:35:47
they also reported on a possible connection to Huisentruit's case is that the day that she was abducted, Jackson
00:35:55
reported to work, but only worked 1 hour that day. Well, and you think there there'd be
00:36:01
some kind of workers' comp or something like that if he got hurt at work. Well, and also I want to dig into something a
00:36:08
little deeper, Captain. You mentioned what kind of vehicle it was. That That is an important item because we do have
00:36:15
the black pickup truck that we've talked about. We have the light-colored van that we talked about. The issue here
00:36:22
though is when when doing the research, it was I know this. It was a car. It was
00:36:28
not a truck nor a van and that's why I didn't include the actual description of the vehicle. So, I apologize for that. I
00:36:36
I wish I would have included that in the notes other than that it was not a truck
00:36:40
or van. It would have been nice if they could have found the vehicle and then did some DNA tests to see if Jodi was
00:36:47
even in the vehicle ever. A February 21st, 1999 newscast suggest that Huisentruit's body may have been buried
00:36:55
in a silo that was near the Johnson County town of Tiffin and alleges a possible connection to Mr. Tony Jackson.
00:37:05
Well, why How does this this site come up? Well, apparently his cellmate Mhm. brings up some
00:37:13
information and says, "Look, Tony's awfully often reciting these rap lyrics that seems to be a rap that he made up."
00:37:22
And one of the lyrics is says something to the effect of, "She started to stiffen in Tiffin."
00:37:30
And people had have awfully often speculated that that might mean he had abducted Jodi Huisentruit or abducted
00:37:37
some young woman and the body started to stiffen near the town of Tiffin. Right.
00:37:45
So, WCCO, they spent their own money and they put together some tests to and they
00:37:51
try to track down the area of Tiffin of where it could possibly be. Somehow they tied these silos to a possible
00:38:03
area. Now, they use their own money for laboratory test and they they sent dogs out there. There are several different
00:38:11
reports about what the dogs' findings were be were to be. One report states that two of the dogs hit on something.
00:38:18
The other report state that that none of the dogs were active or were uh hitting on
00:38:24
anything during this search. Now, they did remove boards from the silo that were tested and later were determined
00:38:35
not to be linked to the disappearance of Jodi Huisentruit. Now, that doesn't necessarily rule out Tony Jackson
00:38:42
because that might just mean that they have the wrong area, that there was nothing to be found in that area.
00:38:50
Let's go through a little bit more of his information because I find this individual to be a very
00:38:57
interesting, I will say, suspect, okay? Because we have him we have Tony Jackson
00:39:04
publicly stating that he didn't he've ne- he've never seen her or met Jodi Huisentruit in public,
00:39:12
right? Right. But later a former friend of his came forward when investigative journalists and and
00:39:20
reporters were out trying to fact-check some of Jackson's story. Now, this source did want to remain anonymous, but
00:39:27
he told a Minneapolis news crew that just before Huisentruit's abduction, he had become friends with Jackson since
00:39:35
their girlfriends at the time were close. Mhm. He says one day after playing basketball that Jackson had
00:39:41
asked him out to happy hour drinks to a bar where Jackson had said that he knew Husen Trott was a regular.
00:39:49
Later, this source says, "You know, I always wondered how he would even know that."
00:39:54
But, the man went along for drinks. Wait, hold on. I'm confused. So, he says, "Let's go get some drinks
00:40:02
at this happy hour. And I know that Jodi's going to be there." He says to him that he knew that Jodi
00:40:09
was a regular at the bar. Before they went to the bar. Correct. Um so, he goes along for the drinks. I
00:40:15
guess this was a few blocks away, some kind of bar called South Bridge Lounge, which is now gone out of business. And I
00:40:23
actually think it went out of business in the late '90s. He states that they entered through the back door. And when
00:40:29
they walked in, they saw Jodi Husen Trott sitting at the bar. Mhm. Jackson allegedly walked right up to
00:40:36
Husen Trott and started chatting her up. Now, this former friend says that he could not hear what their conversation
00:40:44
was. He was not near them when they were talking. Mhm. But, he also we also know this
00:40:49
about Jackson, that while he was living in Mason City, Jackson attended North Iowa Community College where he had
00:40:56
developed an interest in broadcasting while he was hosting his own student talk show. Mhm. So, now his friend knows
00:41:04
this about him. So, he assumed that the two were just kind of talking about TV and TV-related things.
00:41:10
But, he says after Jackson was arrested, tried, and convicted for those rape charges, he says looking back, he
00:41:17
actually thinks that Jackson's interest in Jodi could be a sign that he's possibly guilty of having
00:41:24
abducted her and worse. Mhm. Now, there's another witness that I find interesting here that they dug up years
00:41:33
after the the um abduction. This second witness also wished to remain unidentified. This is a
00:41:41
female who says that she used to run past Jodi's apartment complex every morning right around 4:30 a.m. She
00:41:49
stated that on that morning, she said she was almost hit by a car that was zooming out of the complex's
00:41:56
parking lot. She also added that she was coming up to the apartments and a car comes out really fast and it nearly hits
00:42:05
me and then I have to jump onto the sidewalk. And its headlights were off as it was speeding out of the parking lot.
00:42:13
She also said that just the day before the abduction at the same time and place, she says that a young
00:42:19
African-American man, perhaps in his teens, was riding a bike outside of the apartment complex. He then started
00:42:27
biking right beside her as she ran, which she thought was weird at the time of the morning. Meaning, when she looks
00:42:34
back, she thinks maybe this man could be could have been following her on his bike.
00:42:39
The weird thing here is, as far as vague descriptions go, well, Jackson would fit the vague
00:42:47
description of a young African-American man, perhaps in his teens, as being the one on the bicycle. Because at the time,
00:42:55
he would have been 19 years old. So, that makes it interesting. And he also had a car at the time. And this
00:43:03
witness says that she saw a car speeding out of the parking lot on the day of the
00:43:07
abduction around 4:30, around that same time with its lights off. So, as far as vague
00:43:13
description goes, that's interesting that he matches that vague description. As far as this quote-unquote former
00:43:21
friend's story that they went to a bar that Jodi would frequent, the thing that I find interesting there
00:43:28
is, and we don't know, I know that underage people do drink at bars, it does happen.
00:43:34
Um and probably in 1995, it happened a lot more than it happens today. However, this man uh Jackson would not have been
00:43:42
old enough to drink in that bar on that particular day in question. Yeah, but it could have been like a
00:43:47
neighborhood pub where they also serve food. So, maybe they don't ID you to get in. I mean, who knows? Right. It's not
00:43:54
an impossibility. What What makes it seem unlikely, even all those things we pointed out about Jackson,
00:44:02
about not possibly not being a good suspect, is that he was looked at significantly. Now, this was years after
00:44:09
the abduction. Yeah. But, and these are direct quotes from investigators that worked the Jodi Husen Trott case. And
00:44:17
one being, "After conducting a thorough investigation, which included interviews, crime laboratory analysis,
00:44:24
records review, and polygraph examination, Tony Jackson is not is not considered at this time a viable suspect
00:44:34
in the investigation." Going on to state, "We haven't been able to develop anything that will tie him in
00:44:41
with this case. However, that does not mean something won't come forward that could put him right back in there
00:44:50
at being looked at again." So, it it seems to me, Captain, like they were pretty thorough with this dude. It also
00:44:56
sounds to me like, as big of a scumbag as this guy is, piece of [ __ ] Yeah. Hashtag piece use a piece of [ __ ]
00:45:05
Um I don't know if I think I said that right. But, anyway, Well, well, you tried. I gave it a good
00:45:09
shot. Hashtag use a piece of [ __ ] The The other thing though that I find here about Tony
00:45:14
Jackson, I as much as I like him for to be a suspect, I find his willingness to suggest possibly otherwise. He seems
00:45:24
to be extremely willing to one speak with the media and say, as soon as they come out with the report, he's going,
00:45:31
"No, no, no, no, no. I didn't know her and I wasn't involved in this." Look, he might have knew who she was.
00:45:37
And he might have said, "Hey, man, let's go get a beer. I actually saw this news
00:45:40
anchor in there." And then they see her in in the bar and he went up and said hi.
00:45:44
That still doesn't mean he's involved. It's kind of a weird coincidence, but that if the police are saying that he's
00:45:51
not involved, or they don't think he's involved, then it's I don't know. It doesn't seem like there was a ton there.
00:45:57
Well, and that makes you wonder what evidence do they have regarding that hair that was found at the scene? Were
00:46:03
they able to compare it to some of his hair and determine that that it wasn't his hair that was found? Did they
00:46:09
compare the palm print? Yeah, and I also heard that he had somewhat of an alibi that that checked out. So, Okay. And and
00:46:16
the thing here is, too, here's what I wonder about though, Captain. It seems to me like they've been using
00:46:22
this palm print to eliminate people. I don't know that that's I I hope that the wording is wrong on those reports.
00:46:31
Because I think that's irresponsible on their on their part. Because you and I spoke about this at length earlier.
00:46:39
You and I we question if the palm print even has anything to do with the abduction at
00:46:44
all. Right. Especially if where it was found on the vehicle. If this was a palm print from
00:46:48
inside the vehicle, I have a lot of arguments that would suggest that this person had no reason to reach into the
00:46:54
vehicle at all. Right. Well, and you also wonder if it's on the outside, we're talking about she's parking one at
00:47:01
work with a lot of people. And she is parking in a apartment complex that not only has a lot of people, but has a lot
00:47:07
of people visiting the people that live there. so, I mean, you're talking about a lot of
00:47:12
people that could walk by and touch a car. Well, right. And I would have I would suspect that many of us have many
00:47:19
random palm prints on our vehicles. And people that have a lot of people inside their vehicles would have different palm
00:47:25
prints as well. Now, I think the person that we've we've delayed getting to, and
00:47:30
for good reason, is the person that is probably what maybe True Crime Garage would consider to be the prime suspect
00:47:39
here. Yeah, I think most people looking into this case uh this guy, there's some red flags right away. Yeah,
00:47:45
and and I want to go on record as stating that the police have never said that they have a prime suspect in this
00:47:50
case. But, one person that drew an early focus from police attention was Mason City businessman John Vansice. And
00:47:59
you've heard that name before because we spoke about him. He was considered to be
00:48:03
a friend of Jodi's. He was also a one-time rel- um neighbor of hers. One-time relative.
00:48:12
Good catch. Um he had hosted the surprise 27th birthday party for her just uh days
00:48:19
weeks before her her uh abduction. Well, he claims that he saw her last. He also claims that they were hanging out
00:48:26
the the evening before she went missing. So, You know what's weird about the birthday
00:48:30
party? And I think that what a lot of people speculate is that John had developed an infatuation with her and
00:48:38
and was infatuated with her and this led to some unhealthy behavior and then he developed some kind of relationship that
00:48:47
wasn't actually going on in his mind and got upset with her that she didn't see things the same way that he did and he
00:48:55
abducted her and killed her. Mhm. I think there's some things to to that thought. One, the birthday party
00:49:03
seems a little strange. How well did they know each other? Go ahead. Well, let's start off with it. They used to be
00:49:08
neighbors. 20-year difference. Um but, they have similar hobbies. He had a boat, she liked going out on the
00:49:14
boat. They like to golf. And she mentioned multiple times to family and frie- friends that, "Hey, we
00:49:21
are just friends, but maybe he's starting to want something more." She seemed to be very comfortable with John
00:49:29
though. If he was if he was a bad guy, he wasn't giving out very many bad vibes to to Jodi
00:49:36
because Right. Or, she just has a really bad picker. She she brought him around her
00:49:41
friends. She brought him around some of her relatives as well. Now, to Well, let's start with the surprise party.
00:49:48
Okay. The thing that I felt found very odd is that some point there's like these
00:49:54
invitations or some kind of flyer poster, right? And it says that the party is thrown by him
00:50:02
and friends. And just the fact that it's almost like he wanted he wanted the credit.
00:50:09
He wanted the recognition. It said that on the invitation. Thrown by John Vansice and friends.
00:50:15
Like look at me, I'm such a great guy. Yeah, that's that's interesting and that actually squashes one question that I
00:50:21
had regarding that party was you know, was he just the connection to the bar that that that booked the event?
00:50:27
Mhm. And then later media goes, well, he threw this party for her when in in actuality it was a whole group of
00:50:34
people that threw the party. No, he threw the party. So, he won 100% threw the party. I'll
00:50:39
tell you what, on the other side, on the flip side, it is a nice gesture for a young woman to
00:50:46
receive some kind of birthday party from a close friend. Yeah. Especially when it's somebody that she's only lived in
00:50:51
town for what? A year and a half? She doesn't know a lot of people outside of work or outside of her very inner
00:50:57
circle. And in fact, she comments in her journal about the party stating, you know, it was a great time. John and some
00:51:05
of my friends threw this party for me. There was there was a cake. We were dancing on the tables. Everybody had a
00:51:11
fantastic time. There was cameras there filming some of it. There were people taking pictures. And this but this
00:51:17
relationship could be as innocent as as John claims it is. He's saying, I met this young lady.
00:51:24
She's obviously attractive, but she's 20 years younger than me, but she's very positive and she was a very positive
00:51:31
influence on my life. And you know, for some you know, maybe John doesn't have a
00:51:36
lot of friends himself. So, maybe this really helped his life. And so, you know, he's trying to repay
00:51:43
this this new found positive person that came into his existence and saying, hey,
00:51:49
well, let's let's throw a party for you. So, if anybody's familiar, John Vansice
00:51:53
to me looks like Greg Norman, the old retired golfer, the the shark. Yeah. He he has
00:52:01
looking guy. He has some similarities to Greg Norman, but as you said, he'd be 20
00:52:05
to 22 years older than Jody at this time. Now, one thing I've always wondered, the weekend before she was
00:52:13
abducted, they went out on his boat and yes, his boat being named Jody is very odd behavior to put it as nicely as I
00:52:22
can. Nobody's everybody's hearing this for the first time. He named his boat after
00:52:28
Jody. Yes, the boat was named Jody. He named it after her specifically. But one thing I wondered about Captain
00:52:35
is his they stated his son's house and his son was out on the boat all day with them and Jody and her best friend.
00:52:42
Mhm. I think her I said her name was Tammy, right? So, the four of them and maybe others are out on this boat for a
00:52:49
considerable amount of time. Part of me wondered, you know, like when you Jody bringing a friend along,
00:52:56
you know, that's probably somewhat for her could be just to have a good time or somewhat for her own comfort level.
00:53:04
Mhm. Uh but the other thing that I wondered about was is there any chance that that John was trying to hook up
00:53:10
this young one of these young women with his son? Right. You know, that maybe his son was single
00:53:16
at the time and he just thought Jody was the best thing under the sun and thought
00:53:20
that maybe the two of them might you know, hit it off while they're in each other's presence.
00:53:28
He states that there was a father-daughter type relationship. There is a lot of people on her inner circle
00:53:34
that seemed to think that John wanted more. Uh Jody, unfortunately, her father passed away when she was very young.
00:53:42
Mhm. Some people have speculated that she could have been friends with this older man one because he could have been
00:53:48
charming and fun to be around, they share the same hobbies, but also maybe did she see it as a father-daughter type
00:53:55
relationship? Right. But also just because she is telling friends and family members that she
00:54:02
thinks possibly that he wants something more. She was never definitive about that. I mean, it could have just been,
00:54:09
you know, he called her pretty one day, you know, and she's like, oh, well, that's kind of a
00:54:14
new wrinkle in the relationship. So, I don't put too much into that. I mean, we don't have any proof that he
00:54:21
wanted to be anything more than just friends. Well, the night before she was abducted,
00:54:27
we have John Vansice who would tell police that she was at my apartment. She came over to my apartment. We watched a
00:54:34
video tape of her birthday party. Mhm. She left around 10:00. That is the last that I have seen of her.
00:54:42
Now, there are people that says that he seemed excited or weird when he was talking with police the morning of the
00:54:49
abduction. There are all also people out there that point out that John would have had a very limited amount of time
00:54:56
to abduct her, do whatever and dispose of her body if in fact he was the one who did it and
00:55:04
did it single-handedly. Mhm. Because he was speaking with the police shortly after they were on scene. You
00:55:12
know, within hours of them being on the scene, he's being interviewed by police and telling them, hey, she was at my
00:55:17
place last night. Yeah, which you think if you have something to do with her disappearance, you might not want to
00:55:24
state that she was at your place. Yeah, so the interesting thing here is was she
00:55:31
at his place? And a lot of people said, well, why would it why would he bring up that she
00:55:37
was at his place if if she was not? And I throw into the argument then, well, what if later
00:55:45
you know, some some speculate, well, what if what if he needed an alibi for that night? I think less likely he
00:55:50
needed an alibi for that night because I believe that that phone call is real. is
00:55:54
real. The following morning that Jody Amy Coons phone call at 4:10 was absolutely real.
00:56:01
So, therefore, she is fine and unharmed and does not seem to be worried about anything at 4:10 a.m. the next morning.
00:56:08
The thing here is though, if John Vansice is in fact guilty of something, maybe he needs an alibi later to
00:56:17
give him an alibi of why possibly Jody's DNA or hair or anything of Jody's would
00:56:22
be found in his apartment. Right. Because then later he can say, I already told you guys she was here the night
00:56:29
before. Wouldn't you expect to find some some evidence of that? or something, yeah. But I mean, if
00:56:35
you have proof that you've been friends with her for a while. So, you wouldn't have to necessarily state the day
00:56:43
you know, hours before she went missing, she was at my place. He gave a lot of interviews in the
00:56:49
beginning to TV, a lot of interviews to police. In the beginning, he was very Talked to the family a lot. Yes, he was
00:56:57
very forthcoming with everything. Some things that that I think are are could be an issue, the one that really stands
00:57:05
out for me is remember we spoke about Jody calling her friend Kelly after 10:00 that night. And this would be
00:57:15
if all these things are true and we do know that that phone call happened to Kelly. That's that's a certainty. What's
00:57:21
in question is the time that that phone call was placed. Mhm. So, if in fact she did go to John
00:57:28
Vansice's home and if in fact that phone call took place at 10:00 after 10:00 that night, that means his she was fine
00:57:35
when she placed that phone call. After leaving his home, his apartment, she was 100% fine. I did find one report.
00:57:44
I found one report out there that stated that that phone call occurred at 8:40 p.m. that night. Now, So, possibly
00:57:52
before she went over. Yes, or that she never went over at all. Mhm. And that So, we know that she left the golf
00:57:59
course at 8:00 p.m. We have several eyewitnesses stating that. Was she golfing with him? No, she was golfing a
00:58:06
charity event that she she attended with somebody she worked with. So, here's what I'm getting at. Now, there
00:58:13
are many more reports out there. I want to be clear about this. There are a lot of reports about this phone call. This
00:58:18
is very important, the phone call. Every one of them but one that I could find state that the phone call took
00:58:25
place at after 10:00 p.m. that night. So, this other thing is either either everybody else has got it wrong
00:58:33
or this one place reported it badly. Mhm. They report that the phone call took place at 8:40 p.m. Multiple of
00:58:41
those reports state that the police they were able to seize outgoing phone call records from Jody's apartment. So, they
00:58:50
do know that the phone call took place. I only bring up the potential that the time might be wrong. Right.
00:58:56
It's wrong one of these places. We know that for certain. If if 8:40 is in fact the correct time,
00:59:02
then maybe she never went to John Vansice's apartment. And if he lied about that, you've got to wonder what
00:59:09
else is he lying about. He's guilty of something. why is he lying about that? And I think
00:59:14
also, you know, you you have um a very beautiful woman that was abducted. We have no remains have been found.
00:59:24
And you have somebody that owns a boat. And if you're going to get rid of somebody and and have no trace or
00:59:32
lack of tracing. You do it through through a boat, right? Yeah, that's interesting because
00:59:39
even though police were talking to John early on and he would have had limited time to do anything with her, you got to
00:59:46
wonder his his his home, his vehicle, his boats, these items were not searched early in the investigation.
00:59:54
So, what could have happened there? And you're exactly right. He could You would
00:59:59
think the first go-to would be use the boat to get rid of this object that you you need to hide and conceal forever.
01:00:06
This person. So, let's talk about I just It's a person, not an object. That's fine.
01:00:13
Right. I I can call it a body. The thing is there's another eyewitness account that's interesting regarding the night
01:00:21
before she was abducted. There is at least one neighbor that says that reported hearing somebody knocking or
01:00:28
pounding on Jodi's front door to her apartment and also stating that it is believed to have heard Jodi's name
01:00:37
called out by whoever was knocking on the door stating something like, "I heard pounding on the door. Open up,
01:00:43
Jodi. I know you're in there." or "Jodi, I know you're home." something to that effect. Which is an interesting thing
01:00:49
because then there's the thought was there somebody with her in that apartment at some point that night
01:00:54
whether they stayed the night and stayed until the morning or were they there for
01:00:59
some portion of the night and then have left. And furthermore, if there was somebody
01:01:05
there, why have they never come forward and stated I I was at her apartment that
01:01:10
night or I stayed the night? Here's kind of what I wonder. What if she's seeing somebody? So, she
01:01:16
goes golfing and then she goes over to her buddy John's house and he's not available bachelor for her because she
01:01:24
doesn't like him cuz he's 20 years older, right? And she has some guys she's talking to
01:01:29
on the side. Okay. So, then she leaves John's house and then she meets up with said guy, right? Said
01:01:39
guy's at her house. John comes over. "Hey, I know you're in there. And who you hanging out with?"
01:01:47
And maybe And that would be the motive. I mean, I guess the motive for for John would be that she didn't want
01:01:56
to be with him in a in a serious relationship. So, then he had to kill her, you know. Right.
01:02:04
Or on the flip side, could John be the catalyst for somebody that was following her and keeping tabs on her, infatuated,
01:02:12
believed that they had some type of relationship. And what I mean by that if they're keeping tabs on him, they see
01:02:18
she went out of town with with this guy for a weekend, then she's off golfing and then she's at his
01:02:24
apartment. They got some She she's out running around on me. A lot of these stalkers believe that they are in an
01:02:29
actual relationship. boat named after her. Right. And then this person thinks, "Oh my god, she's
01:02:35
involved with this dude. She's cheating on me with this dude." and decides to take it out on Jodi waiting outside of
01:02:41
her apartment until the wee morning hours grabbing her there. But back with the toilet seat up
01:02:49
and beers. I think that Was somebody there? I think that really suggests and somebody knocking on the
01:02:55
door, too. I really question that Did John Did she go to John's apartment or did he
01:03:02
go to her apartment? Is what I really question. Well, and again with John, he was very cooperative with the police.
01:03:08
So, I don't know. But if it's only one or the other, I think there's more evidence to suggest
01:03:14
that maybe John was at her apartment rather than her being at his. Meaning that we have a neighbor that reports
01:03:21
hearing a knock on the door, we have the beer cans, we have the toilet seat up, and then on the flip side, all we have
01:03:28
is John saying that she had gone to his apartment. Now, some updates some things that have taken place more
01:03:37
recently regarding this case is we have a search warrants that were conducted. They did a search on
01:03:46
John's basement at the apartment that he had held at the time of her abduction. Now, keep in mind they did searches on
01:03:53
this basement years and years after the fact and claiming that they had not found anything to suggest that Jodi was
01:04:00
in that basement at any time. In March on March 20th, 2017, a search warrant was executed for GPS
01:04:11
data on two cars related to John Vansice. Now, at the time of the search warrants,
01:04:18
John would be 72 years old and living in the state of Arizona. They wanted to find out GPS data from a
01:04:28
1999 Honda Civic and a 2013 GMC 1500. So, that would be a truck. What I find to be interesting about
01:04:40
these search warrants is these were executed last year, early last year. We don't know the result of these search
01:04:50
warrants because the warrants and the search has been sealed. And they actually filed for this to be sealed for
01:04:59
I believe it was for 1 year and then when it came near that 1-year mark, they went back to seal it again
01:05:07
and it has been sealed for an additional 6 months. So, the information regarding that search is sealed until
01:05:14
October of this year. What I'm guessing is maybe there's some kind of lead, some kind of information
01:05:22
that those searches yielded and now that they're following up on that information
01:05:26
or using that to to further conduct their investigation and they don't want that information to come out or they
01:05:35
believe they can find what they're looking for and have not been able to locate it yet. The curious thing though
01:05:41
is and the obvious thing is these vehicles were not even they didn't even exist at the time of
01:05:48
her abduction. So, what does this mean? Does this mean that they suspect John and suspect him
01:05:54
enough that he would have used these vehicles at a later date to transport the body of Jodi or that they would find
01:06:02
some evidence all those years later in these vehicles. Well, I wish they would have done these
01:06:07
searches earlier and I wish they would have searched John's boat because the fact that we don't have a body,
01:06:14
you know, having the boat access to the boat gives you a access to get rid of the body. Mhm. I wish they
01:06:22
would have done that. And as much as I mean, it's just whose story do you believe? And I do believe
01:06:29
John's story on some level and then it always back to me with the the briefcase. Why did the person take
01:06:37
the briefcase? It seems like something so unnecessary when abducting this young woman to drag
01:06:43
along that briefcase as well. Now, obviously, Captain, we could talk about this case for three, four, five hours.
01:06:51
There is a lot of information here. The issue with Jodi's case, like others, is that some of these items, some of these
01:06:59
details in here kind of throw you into throw us all into a tailspin of of going, "What if? What if? What about
01:07:07
this? What about that?" If you want more information or if you yourself have any
01:07:13
information regarding the disappearance of Jodi Huisentruit, please use that website that we have referenced several
01:07:19
times during this these two podcasts. That is findjodi.com. They have more information there and you
01:07:27
can submit tips there as well. And please please keep following this case and we are coming up on another
01:07:34
anniversary of her abduction. So, on June 27th, please think about Jodi and think about her
01:07:41
family. Please share Jodi's picture on social media and maybe we can shine some light
01:07:46
on this case, get people talking, and get some new information. And for all of our old episodes, check
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a reign of terror that swept the streets of Birmingham in the 1920s. Criminals armed with small axes attacked immigrant
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merchants and interracial couples leaving dozens dead or injured over the course of 4 years. In desperate for
01:08:25
answers, police well, the investigation got unconventional, let's say. Eventually, four men and a teenage girl
01:08:33
were charged and tried while copycat killers emerged from the woodwork. So, check out the infamous Birmingham Axe
01:08:41
Murders, Prohibition Gangsters and Vigilante Justice by Jeremy Gray. And you don't have to write down that title
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