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secret many of us will face challenges struggles and battle against it and some of us will have have to do that alone
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some of us will do that completely alone kyab Bobo was 32 years of age when she went missing 2 years ago she would
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be 34 today Kyla was reported missing by her family in St Clair County Alabama alone is that how she felt that
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night when her challenge came to battle or perhaps that is how she was feeling for so very long it's been 2 years where
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is she I think there are several people in St Clair County that know where she is and why she's been missing for this
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long I think they have told others there have been many looking for Kyla and the search continues but this
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case is not immune to criticism and skepticism some have voiced a critique of the sheriff's department some have
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voiced their skepticism of the persons surrounding this case Cas mainly the persons that come into play on the very
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night that Kyla disappeared some have even stated criticism for the victim herself but fighting for justice is not
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about choosing which victims to advocate for it's about choosing to fight for them all this is true crime garage and
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this is the missing person's case of kylo [Music] Bobo and your [Music] secret there are always so many
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Mysteries that surround the many disappearances covered here in the missing person's true crime stories on
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True Crime garage often times that is the main reason that the person is still missing there's just too many Mysteries
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too many Blanks on the timeline but there is something suspiciously different I feel about this case here we
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find the details about the movements persons involved in the events during the day and night in question to be
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vague I find them to be conveniently vague Kyla Bobo was 32 years old when she went missing at the end of January
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just two years ago this story is out of the quaint town of Chula Vista Alabama located in St Clair County Alabama some
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other areas of importance could be the towns and cities of Moody leads Odenville Margaret pel City Talladega
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Springville Asheville and Birmingham kyab Bobo has varying degrees of ties to each of these locations they
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are all for the most part nearby cities this is in the middle of Alabama sort of
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the northeastern part the investigating agency here Captain is the St Clair County Sheriff's Office and as at least
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one source puts it the criminal investigation division of St Clair County Sheriff's office has
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characterized the Kyla Bobo missing persons case as intricate though they have refrained from divulging further
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particulars the Sheriff's Office did an official press release with information about Kyla to the public early in the
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investigation but for a large part of the time since they have been very quiet some fear a little too quiet the
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following information is from that press release and it states the St Clair County criminal investigation division
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continues their investigation into missing person Kyla Boba she was last seen in the Chula Vista area in late
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January 2022 kyab Bobo is described as a [ __ ] ccasian woman 32 years of age at the
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time of her disappearance so she would be 34 today 5' 5 in tall about 120 PBS brown hair brown eyes and she has a
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tattoo of her name Kyla on the back of her right shoulder blade it's thought that when she was last seen that she was
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wearing blue jeans a pink jacket and black flip-flops there's been little in the
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way of media coverage and publicity for Kyla's case and as far as this circumstances of her
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disappearance the story has been and remains short and sweet as they say or vague and haunting as we say and here we
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go Kyla left from a friend's house Sunday night January 30th 2022 she was picked up by an individual
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who claims to have dropped Kyla off at her boyfriend's house but the boyfriend claimed that she never showed up anyone
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with any information that could help investigators locate Kyla should contact investigator Matthew con at
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20588 43333 so that's it that's the story that's it and that's all folks but not
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so fast because your boys did some cracking and we were able to put together a little bit of a timeline the
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captain and the colonel we've been a crackalacking cracking some heads and when you go face when you go online and
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you look up the story that's pretty much what you're going to find is that Kyla left her friend's house got a ride with
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a guy guy says he dropped her off at the boyfriend's house boyfriend says she never showed up now we have a mystery
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well let's go back before that and see if we can fill in some of the blanks and really expand on this timeline and the
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known events of that evening the evening in question in the last year this case has
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been one of the most recommended cases to look into I think because there's so much lack of information people wonder
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is law enforcement doing a good job why don't we have more information we have a
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bunch of people that are concerned about what happened to her so this is one that
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like I said comes highly recommended from listeners kyab Bobo is born September 28th 1989 she grows up with a brother
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and sister Kyla's dad spent some time working as a police officer growing up Kyla is described as really fun she's
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described as a really fun kid and fun person one person telling us quote she was just the most fun person she played
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softball as a youngster and was on a couple of dance teams Kyla was close with her sister Anna now After High
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School Kyla kind of fell into the wrong crowd this would later dramatically change her life in the direction of her
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life right around the time that Kyla turns 30 she moves in with her boyfriend now this guy he's a little bit younger
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than Kyla his name is Blake this was a long-term situation a long-term relationship in fact Kyla and Blake
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lived together for about two years living in a house this is Blake's house and for at least a portion of that time
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there is a roommate that shared the dwelling with them maybe even for the entirety of that two years that part I'm
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a little unclear of now even though Kyla is out on her own and even though she's
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living in a different city than several of her family members she does stay in regular contact with her family and that
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will be and we know this from studying other missing persons cases that will be one of the key
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factors here when things start to go wrong yeah so if you're thinking right now maybe I should message my mother
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more message my father more you should because it helps law enforcement also put together a timeline just in case
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something happen and mommy and daddy miss you this is going to take us to Thursday January 27th
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2022 Kyla and Blake they have some kind of argument now we don't know the exact details or particulars of this argument
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but it sounds to me Captain from people that we spoke to is that the two again this is a long-term relationship they've
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been living together for over two years sounds to me like the two kind of needed
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a break and turns out that Kyla she knows that two of her girlfriends are living
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at a place on a street called Cane Creek Drive so Cane Creek Drive this is in pel
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city so she decides to go and visit them and she wants to see if she can stay there with her girlfriends for a while
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right okay so pel city is going to play a major role in this True Crime Story this is a larger City larger than Chula
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Vista and it's a few miles east and a little more than 12,000 people are living there so like we said she's
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staying in a house with her boyfriend but she's is going to go visit her friends possibly to stay but this is
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kind of a I would say unique situation yeah I think that's fair to say so the way that I understand it here Captain is
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It's a larger property well at least large enough for there to be a house and a trailer on the property so the
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property owner the person in charge there his name is Norman and he's renting a trailer on the
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property to these two females Kyla goes she knows the girls and she goes and sees if she can stay there for a while
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now for a while is undetermined we don't know what her intentions were how long she intended to stay there but we do
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know that she does spend several nights there this is based off of what the women will later tell law enforcement so
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on the 27th of January 2022 she has an argument with her boyfriend longtime boyfriend
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leaves his place goes and stays with these two women now where things turn bad for our
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timeline is she's last seen on January 30th so that would put her there what about three nights before she's last
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seen and the way that this story shakes out is that sometime between the hours of 9 and 10 p.m. on January 30th she
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catches a ride with a guy and it sounds like this ride is at her request that she reached out
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to him hey we don't know exactly what was said but she asked him to come and pick her up he does and then as we
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already heard as The Story Goes The Narrative that follows is what we've been told for two years now he says he
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picked her up he agrees to that but he says he dropped her back off at her house that she shared with Blake her
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boyfriend Blake tells law enforcement no no no that never happened I never saw her again after she left on the
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27 so the problem with this story is that somebody's not telling the truth exactly one of both of these persons
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cannot be telling the truth so your your reason for her missing lies with one of these two
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people as far as I'm concerned either the guy that gave her the ride who knows where where they go or yes he did drop
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her off and the boyfriend did something and I don't think it's wrong for people to question the boyfriend because look
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that would there's some motive there are they having some issues is she trying to
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leave him does he think she's trying to leave him and she's saying hey I'm going
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to go stay with my friends and he's saying hey that's not cool with me that would give some sort of motive there
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yeah yeah and you have to wonder like oh she's been out for three nights it's easy to assume that he thinks she's
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out running around and may have a big problem with that or what's up with this guy that
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picks her up so what do we know the the good thing here is that we have some witnesses right we have her friends that
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she was staying with that that would appear to have some information now this is public knowledge you have to do a
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little digging but if you dig deep enough this is public knowledge so the man that picks her up is an acquaintance
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of hers and his name is Maxwell and we know this because the two women she's staying with they kind of know Maxwell
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or at least know from Kyla telling them that that's who's picking her up that night so the answer into her
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disappearance lies with Maxwell or the boyfriend Blake unfortunately here captain
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and you know this but to bring the listeners in a little bit closer we spoke to a bunch of people
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about this case well that's the crack aacan you're talking about that's the Kraken what's unfortunate is not one of
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them told us that they expect to find her that they think that she just walked away in fact there's rumor going around
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in this area Chula Vista in pel city of what happened and the short part of that
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is that it's a mystery but it's believed by all persons including law enforcement that she was met with Foul
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Play and somebody has concealed her body somewhere well like the listeners know the captain loves a good
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mystery you have cases like Brian schaer or Mara Murray where there's possibilities that maybe they ran off to
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start a new life it's those cases are truly missing person cases to me this case to me is not a missing person case
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it's a missing body case that's very sad to say but this is a murder investigation as far as I'm concerned
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well and what's really sad for the families and all the persons that knew Kyla is it sounds like there was hope
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early on in this investigation so how do we know that she goes missing right because the tricky part here is Maxwell
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the person that gave her the ride picks her up that night he doesn't report her missing no later when he talks to the
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police he says I dropped her off at Blake's house then the flip side of that coin is Blake did not report her missing
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either he says know she took off on the 27th said that she was going to go stay elsewhere I never saw her again
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who reported her missing well as we said she is picked up by Maxwell between 9:00
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and 10 p.m. on January 30th unfortunately Kyla's grandmother passes away on February 1 and as we said even
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though she lives in a neighboring City from most of her family she stays in regular contact well her family reached
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out to her and said hey you know grandmother passed away trying to to fill her in on the
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details Kyla never responds to any of those messages the services for her grandmother take place on February 7th
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so family is reaching out to Kyla hey this is where the services will be this is what time the date such and such they
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never hear back and she never shows up to any of the memorial Services well and like you said I mean the February 1st to
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the 7th six day window trying to get a hold of a family member man I'd be freaking out well and this is going to
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be where the police are going to get involved because after she doesn't show up to
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Grandmother's memorial service her family reports that she's missing they believe something has happened there's
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no way that she would have missed that so now police have to get involved they go and they talk to Blake Blake says I
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don't know she took off she went she was staying elsewhere that quickly leads police to the girlfriend's place where
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she was staying for a couple of nights and then that leads them to Maxwell who picked her up on the 30th well if I'm
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law enforcement I'm sitting down this guy Blake I'm pulling a Keel and peel right I'm going to go
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Blake what do you know what aren't you telling us Blake where is she were you upset that she was going to
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leave were you upset that she's going to take some time apart from you well and police are going to be a little
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suspicious of Blake because as I understand it he did agree and allow them to search the house and his
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property they don't come up with any leads based off of that but then they ask him to take a polygraph test and
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from my understanding Captain he agrees to the polygraph but fails to show up for the scheduled
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polygraph well that's called not agreeing to it but exactly look don't want to throw black under the bus
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because we've talked about this before there's no win in taking the polygraph if I pass it people go well it's a junk
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science and you can't use it in the court of law and then if I fail it then people are saying well he's guilty no
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matter how well uh of the technician or how how well of the test you know how how well of the
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expertise the person giving me the test so it could be just a shitty investigator and I fail the test so
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there's no win so I don't want to throw Blake under the bus because he didn't show up for a polygraph test yeah I
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don't know that I would if if you are in the suspect category you said it perfectly there is no win this this for
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the right team of detectives is not going to exclude me if I pass the polygraph now I do think that
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it shows something on his end of agreeing to a search you know he didn't require them to get a search warrant
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from my understanding he said yeah you can search the house you can search the property I don't I don't know where she
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is yeah but if you know that the crime didn't happen there and that she's not there then go ahead search a big deal
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Chris Watts comes to mind well she's not here so why don't you take a look around
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so it sounds like this is going to be a good case for law enforcement right we have the situation where we already have
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several leads we have Blake that we talked to we have Maxwell that we talked to we have the ladies that she was
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staying with but we don't have any report on whether they offered Maxwell um light
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detector do we we don't but I I'm going to make the very short leap I think that
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it's not difficult to believe that if they requested a polygraph of Blake they probably requested a polygraph of the
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other guy who might have been the last person to see her yeah I'd agree with you I you know law enforcement tends to
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do things across the board and so that's why I believe that they asked Maxwell to
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take a polygraph the unfortunate part of this story though is if that is true I don't know if he took it if he
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agreed to take it or how he did on the test now from the people that we spoke to and I'm just guessing here guys but
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from the people we spoke to it sounds to me like Maxwell's Cooperative to the point
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of I picked her up we hung out I dropped her off at Blakes that's my story and I'm sticking to it that's the level of
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cooperation that I gather that he's offering here so little to no cooperation right and see that becomes
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the problem with this case right you it looks like a good story it looks like a good case for law enforcement where they
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they get this missing person's case we might be able to find her because we have these leads we have Blake we have
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Maxwell we have the girlfriends that she's staying with we have people that we can talk to we can start putting
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together a timeline and a figure out maybe where she was or who was the actual last person to see her but the
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problem then for your investigation becomes this everybody has their story everybody sticks to it well if
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everybody's telling the truth then poof she just vanished Into Thin Air and we know that's not what happened here so
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one of these people or maybe more is not giving us the full [Music] story [Music]
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the walls onward and upward cheers to the people in the front cheers to you Colonel cheers to you and cheers to the
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people in the back and how about the people in the middle and to all the people crack a
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lacking so there is a reward for information in this case $5,000 has been put up by a local company called the
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line of fire they're in the town of Moody Alabama and from my understanding I believe they're like a gun range or a
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gun store that has put up $5,000 to for information that will lead to the the location that will lead them to
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finding kyab Bobo now the unfortunate part of this story is as we covered in the first half
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is that everybody's saying that we are looking for her body at this point we believe that she's been met with Foul
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Play and we need to recover evidence and figure out who the last person was to have seen her because that may lead us
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to the answers as to what happened to this poor young woman she's just 32 years old man she would have been 34
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today so this case is still relatively new still a little bit fresh usually we're covering cold cases here in the
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garage but this is a newer one and one that was recommended to us and several people reached out and said hey guys
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would you look into it well what we find is some interesting Leads Here the local
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rumor is that she may have been placed in a well somewhere that's the rumor that's been swirling around this area
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since her disappearance now police are going to get their first I wouldn't say their first lead
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Captain but the first of what is probably several strange leads this comes in a couple of months
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after Kyla's missing so police get this tip that Kyla was seen in a yard on a property that is near Camp
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winnataska so Camp winnataska is this huge Nature Preserve it's it's incredibly large we're talking many
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acres but there are a couple of properties that kind of back up to this Camp win
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atasa that's how the tip comes in the tip comes in saying that she was spotted in a
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yard of a property that backs up to the camp now what's interesting about this tip is going to be that the rumors going
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around town later will be that she was placed in a well or buried on a property near this
00:29:44
same camp so who knows if this rumors comes out of this tip or if the tip comes from the rumor it's the chicken or
00:29:52
the egg situation but what we do know is police do follow up on this tip they go
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out and they speak to the property owner and they don't find anything now the troubling thing about this tip here and
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this is this is one thing that I was extremely curious about because this tip comes in a couple of months after she's
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already been missing the tip is I saw her in a yard at this property that's it that's
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all that's the entirety of the tip so I asked several people I said well what does that mean that the person said that
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I saw her today which is 2 or 3 months after she's been missing on this yard in this yard or did you see her or did I
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see her two or three months ago in this yard and didn't know that she was missing till I saw a flyer so this
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person sees the flyer this tip makes its way to the police the tipster passes away to get whatever this
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tipster told police remains between them and the police and we don't have further detail
00:31:01
on that because unfortunately that person's not around for us to talk to today well and just to be clear I mean
00:31:07
are they saying that they saw her body or did did they say that they saw her alive they see her dead or is it just
00:31:15
simply I saw her in a yard is that implying that she was dead well it's a bit of a mixed bag here because the
00:31:25
people that I spoke to they all firmly believe that she's saying I saw her alive you know and my
00:31:33
follow-up questions are well what do you mean out in the yard was there a party was she hanging out with other people
00:31:38
that could be identified was she just out on the front porch smoking a cigarette by herself you know what's
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what's the details unfortunately none Nobody Knows the details now it's believed by all parties that
00:31:52
they're saying that Kyla was alive and well when this tipster saw her MH the did she have any
00:32:00
interaction with her that part we don't know but what I found interesting was there was at least one person that took
00:32:08
the tip to mean or or beli the tip meant that she had saw her recently not not two months ago not
00:32:16
three months ago which I don't know how much faith I put in that look it's one person's opinion it's one person's
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belief it's just as good as mine but the the the reason why I don't tend to lean
00:32:30
that way is the fact that we've been told by many people she kept in contact constant
00:32:37
contact with her family grandmother passes away I don't think that if she if she if everything is normal and
00:32:45
everything's going as normal for Kyla unless somebody's stopping her from doing so it sounds to me like she would
00:32:52
have kept in contact with her family yeah very strange situation and and I I think think one could make an argument
00:32:58
if you're looking into this case you go well I guess you could make an argument that there's some evidence that she
00:33:07
wanted to start over or get out of the situation that she's in I don't think that's evidence of wanting to disappear
00:33:15
or to lose connection with family members I don't think we have any evidence of that and I and I also think
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because of the rumors that are coming out and a lot of the that that's what leads law enforcement
00:33:32
and others involved in this case to think that she's just not around anymore well and the problem here too Captain
00:33:39
for investigators and for the community and at large would be drugs have really done a number on this area and it
00:33:51
started with methamphetamines and now it's continuing with fentanyl and and a lot of the people in
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Kyla's Social Circle right they have addiction problems with methamphetamine Kyla unfortunately did as well she
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struggled with addiction and so what you have here Captain is when you're trying
00:34:18
to do these cases you have to talk with family and friends and fan out from there now there's no problem with the
00:34:28
family here but once you get to the Friends portion of this story and this case for the
00:34:34
investigators you're going okay well every person I talk to I believe that they have a drug
00:34:43
problem and so I don't think that you know detectives are very good at at a gut feeling if someone's telling them
00:34:53
the truth or not and that will often times lead them and Lead their investigation lead them on their hunt
00:35:01
for evidence and for answers the problem when you find a circle of people that are all involved in illegal activity is
00:35:09
you can't figure out you a detective even the best detective oftentimes cannot sort out is this person lying to
00:35:17
me because they did something to Kyla or not being upfront with me because they're involved in other illegal
00:35:24
activity that has nothing to do with Kyla and I think that became the problem early on in this investigation for the
00:35:32
detectives because I think they had a lot to work with with all the rumors that were going on in this area you we
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you know we have Rumors in other cases you don't have rumors like this that she's on a property near this Camp wi
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atasa maybe in a well and then some of the rumors are even more detailed that the well is near power
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lines and police go out the sheriff's department St Clair sheriff's department they go out and they find properties
00:36:04
that match that vague description what what they're a little Cy about what what law enforcement will
00:36:12
and will not stay or sorry will not say here is okay of all these properties out
00:36:20
there we searched them we searched some of them who consented to a search and who
00:36:25
did not consent to a search because then you start going well if so if so and so
00:36:30
won't consent to the search and their property has markings that line up with the rumors that we're hearing in
00:36:39
town is this person involved in something or are they just a stubborn homeowner that doesn't want anybody
00:36:46
snooping around on their property yeah not you know I hate to go against you but you know if you read Malcolm
00:36:52
gladwell's book talking to strangers I look I think the evidence points away from this idea that we we can have a
00:37:00
sense of whether or not we know if somebody's telling the truth um they did a lot of tests on law enforcement I even
00:37:07
believe some FBI agents as well and did tests with actors obviously you know saying well I'm going to tell you the
00:37:14
truth or I'm going to tell you lies and they failed the test so but I think it becomes even more
00:37:21
complex here because like you said we have people with drug addiction and so then the question then becomes too well
00:37:29
okay we're looking for we think there was Foul Play well is that murder or is that there was uh
00:37:39
overdose and the foul play is that we got rid of the body and we we didn't go to law enforcement and tell them what
00:37:46
happened yeah and the other thing that makes this a tricky case and this might steer you away from the boyfriend a
00:37:54
little bit again remember he consented to search he allowed his home and property to be searched by police we do
00:38:01
know that the family went there afterwards after she's missing to collect a bunch of her things so if
00:38:08
there was anything obvious pointing to signs that something happened to Kyla there they they would have seen it and
00:38:15
that doesn't seem to be the case now I will say this I have spoke to at least one
00:38:20
person that says the boyfriend's actions are a little weird because he seemed to be
00:38:26
Cooper in the beginning and then as we said doesn't show up to the polygraph and then seem to move on rather quickly
00:38:33
with his life yeah but hold on a second though let's let's just say what do we know we know that there's rumors
00:38:41
circulating and is it possible that he's cooperating with police and he starts hearing these rumors and he goes oh
00:38:51
something bad has happened and the fear of them trying to pin it on him and that would be enough reason or
00:39:00
if he started talking to people in his life and and they said hey look I know you care about her and everything I know
00:39:07
you want to cooperate but you need to protect yourself the other people here the other people involved the guy that
00:39:13
she is picked up by so what's interesting about this lead if I'm an investigator is not only the girlfriends
00:39:21
that she's staying with say okay this is the guy that picked her up that night he
00:39:26
remember he agrees yeah I picked her up that night dropped her off at her boyfriend's house they also find some
00:39:31
Communications with him I believe through like Facebook Messenger that arranging for him to come pick her up
00:39:39
that night so it's it's confirmed by all parties plus it's written somewhere for
00:39:44
them to review that so there's that lead now the guy that picked her up Maxwell or Max as many people call him he has a
00:39:52
history of violence you do a background check on him and you figure out rather quickly he's not a very good dude he's
00:39:59
not a nice guy and then through this Facebook Messenger they also get another lead about a guy named Larry that she
00:40:08
may have been running around with this guy Larry at some point between the time that she leaves
00:40:13
the boyfriend's house and is picked up by Max Larry as well I don't know the problem here is I can't sort out if
00:40:21
Larry and Max know each other but Larry not a great guy either he's got not violent behavior in his background but
00:40:31
breaking a lot of laws a lot of like theft burglary that kind of stuff and then you have sort of the icing on the
00:40:39
cake of of your troubled investigation is Norman so he owns the property where these girls are these
00:40:48
women are staying young women are staying in the trailer I'm guessing he's renting the trailer to them kylo goes
00:40:56
and stays with her girlfriends there for a couple of nights we know that at least
00:41:01
three nights that she stayed there her friends share her same struggles again as an investigator
00:41:10
you're interviewing all these people and you're probably not getting the whole story from everybody maybe even the
00:41:16
boyfriend's giving you the whole story but I don't think that they feel like they're getting the the entire story
00:41:21
from all the other parties that saw her in those days leading up to when she's last seen so so far we have
00:41:30
Blake and then we have the guy that picked her up Maxwell then we have this other individual that seems like she had
00:41:38
some kind of relationship with Larry and then the owner of the property and which
00:41:46
her friends were staying on Norman but then also I think you could again make the case if we have people with one
00:41:56
criminal histories or people that are using methamphetamines again I I go back to
00:42:05
the idea that did something happen did they party too hard and then hey we got to get rid of this body or we could get
00:42:15
in trouble well and we know that police did a I I I don't want to say that it was a detailed search of this Camp wi
00:42:24
atasa because again such a large area that it would be very difficult to do a grid search it would take who knows
00:42:34
how long it would take but what we do know is that when they when they start hearing these rumors that that her
00:42:40
body's up around there somewhere either in Camp wi itasa or on a property nearby
00:42:45
we do know that they go up there with ATVs and they're out there riding around doing a a search looking for anything
00:42:52
that's obvious so they did travel a good amount of land looking for her and we do
00:42:57
know that there was some searches that were conducted on properties near this Camp wi atasa again we don't know which
00:43:05
properties were searched and which properties they were turned away from but we do know that they did search some
00:43:10
of these properties and the reason why I keep going back to this is because it's
00:43:14
the rumors we've seen this in multiple cases that we've covered some of these cases expand out 10 12 15 20 years where
00:43:23
early on in the investigation there is some swirling rumor about what happened to somebody and then that rumor
00:43:30
eventually dies down because there's investigating efforts that take place people clear people police clear people
00:43:38
police look at other suspects they move on to other leads and then when the case
00:43:43
finally breaks and they finally get that break that they need and they close out
00:43:47
the case they make an arrest it's been what like 75 to maybe even up to 90% of those cases that we we look back in the
00:43:56
rearview mirror and in retrospect we go holy [ __ ] that rumor that was going around at the beginning of this case
00:44:03
there was a lot of Truth to that there was a lot of Truth to that that's right it's hairy and scary and but it could be
00:44:10
real and what's what's scary here there was also a rumor swirling about that there are a couple guys living together
00:44:19
on a large property near this Camp wi atasa mhm and the rumor is that they kept girls there that they they would
00:44:29
find women with with a drug problem right abduct them or take them out there willingly and then against their will
00:44:37
hold them there right use drugs as a way to sedate them and this sounds like some
00:44:44
True Detective stuff right straight out out of HBO but unfortunately it does happen now we don't know if there's any
00:44:52
truth to that this is just a rumor at this point but the problem with this rumor and it goes back
00:44:58
to that instinct that that belief that we have that we've exper because we've experienced it several times where
00:45:06
there's there ends up being Truth at the end of the day when they solve the case
00:45:10
in those early rumors and this rumor this rumor has ties to the other stories right it's a property near this Camp win
00:45:19
atasa and this this is all in this General pel City area and the the the thing here is why it makes you believe
00:45:28
that there's truth here is that it's not one person saying this it's dozens of people saying that oh she's buried
00:45:35
somewhere in pel City the answers are in pel City well and I think what you're pointing out here is that it's not a
00:45:42
separate rumor you could take the first rumors and connect it to then this rumor
00:45:48
that doesn't have to be separate it both could be happening at the same time well
00:45:54
and here's the thing too if if you have it sounds to me like a lot of people have information about this case it
00:46:02
sounds to me like while we may have a lot of people that have heard something or know something they were told
00:46:09
something they don't have any direct involvement in this case I think the hindrance of people reaching out to
00:46:17
police with good information to the Sheriff's Department with good information in this case is
00:46:22
that some of them have been involved in illegal activity you got to keep in mind if you're out
00:46:27
there and you're listening to this and you have information call the sheriff's department because here's the way that
00:46:34
it works you see the sign on the door that says homicide that's all we're concerned about we're not concerned
00:46:40
about you bought some meth or or you did a little bit of meth it's like the NFL playoffs right you the the referees get
00:46:49
together before the game and they say do math we call the felonies we're going to
00:46:53
let the misdemeanor go right so if if you got information all they care about is finding Kyla they will turn away
00:47:02
they'll turn a blind eye to your misdemeanor activities that you've been doing well and like you said I I'm just
00:47:10
going to put this out this this is my belief from Communications when you have so many people talking about these
00:47:17
rumors I think one of the things that going probably right for law enforcement is we have people that have a drug
00:47:26
history that creates loose lips and I think people have talked I think law enforcement actually has a lot more
00:47:37
information and look again one of the reasons why we're covering this case is people said hey there's all these people
00:47:45
talking and why isn't this case being covered and and why isn't law enforcement doing their due diligence
00:47:52
but hold on a second maybe they are maybe they're building in a case and now to finish the piece of the puzzle
00:47:59
because we know it's hard to convict somebody it's harder to convict somebody if you don't have a body and I think the
00:48:07
other issue too is where did they dump the body are they able to recover the body are they able to then move the body
00:48:16
to a different location so is law enforcement playing a little bit of a cat and mouse game with these murderers
00:48:25
well and we we talked about drugs and so if that is involved in all of this now I did we
00:48:32
did talk to at least one source that did say look she did have enemies she Kyla did have people that were upset with her
00:48:42
um they don't know exactly why their guess would be maybe she she had stole from them or there owed maybe owed some
00:48:51
money to someone but regardless of the motivation here we have these stories about where she may
00:49:00
be and I'm glad that you said some of that there Captain because the general belief here and feeling and I kind of
00:49:09
felt this way too when I first started looking into kylo's case the general belief is that well here's this young
00:49:16
woman she's kind of in drug kind of involved in drugs and other drug related activities with these other people
00:49:27
and the sheriff's department yeah they did a little searching for but they've been quiet ever since and that's because
00:49:34
they just don't care they you know it's it's a moral issue we got other cases to
00:49:39
work we got other victims that we're prioritizing over Kyla in this case and that is some of the belief here some
00:49:49
people firmly believe that about this case and like I said I kind of thought that I thought I had my suspicions about
00:49:56
that early on but then I really started digging and talking to more people and now I I've changed my song and dance
00:50:04
here I think I think you are right there Captain I think that while people say that they've been a little too quiet the
00:50:10
sheriff's department I think it's not because they're not doing anything I think it's because they're uncovering
00:50:15
stuff they're uncovering stuff and they they are working the case well like I said if you have individuals that have a
00:50:22
substance abuse problem that's also so leveraged that law enforcement can use sometimes to get more information oh
00:50:30
well guess what we we picked you up on this charge oh you know more about this rumor you know a couple details okay
00:50:39
maybe that doesn't lead us to the body but that leads us closer to a resolution so we're going to turn like you said
00:50:48
turn a blind eye to the criminal charge of possession or whatever they end up picking up these
00:50:54
individuals so these drug circles even even in big cities sometimes the drug circle is
00:51:02
smaller so you can like I said I think you just got loose lips because you have substance abuse problems yeah and
00:51:10
unfortunately methamphetamine Remains the number one cause of violent crimes committed in this general
00:51:21
area in this region so the but here here's garage detective 101 for everybody out there armchair
00:51:30
sleuthing um the evidence is what it should lead you right the evidence is what leads your investigation for a
00:51:38
detective the other thing that leads an investigation for detective detectives is a
00:51:44
lies right you you follow the evidence you also follow the lies who is lying what are they lying about and why the
00:51:54
problem here that complicates your case this ain't a hill this is a mountain of a case on the surface it looks like
00:52:03
there's very little narrative very little story here very little information underneath what you have is
00:52:10
you have a whole Social Circle filled with little lies some of them are probably because these people know what
00:52:22
happened they were directly involved with The Disappearance of kyab Bobo the other ones are Little White Lies
00:52:31
covering their tracks not telling you everything about what they do on a regular basis or who they associate with
00:52:39
and why so the trouble here for the detectives is when you're TR when you're tracking down those lies and you're
00:52:45
sorting out who is telling me the truth and who is not and why here they got a little extra leg work to do a little
00:52:52
extra leg work and I think that's why I'm hoping anyway we don't know for certain but I hope that that's the case
00:52:59
that they are building a case they've sorted through a lot of the muck in the Meer here and they're they're honing in
00:53:07
on not just a location where she could be but who's responsible when if you saw something say something do the right
00:53:15
thing she had a family that loved her she had friends that loved her they deserve to know what happened
00:53:25
to her yeah and and look here you don't a victim is a victim is a victim right we don't just push aside a victim
00:53:34
because they had some struggles or they had some issues right does anybody want to put their hand up and say I don't
00:53:40
have any issues I don't have any struggles because if you put your hand up you might be lying or lying to
00:53:46
yourself we all have struggles we all have issues and I have a tanky leg I I got regrets yeah I got them okay
00:53:55
mhm so Kyla just like the captain said she loved and she was loved and so let's help out her family Let's help out the
00:54:04
sheriff's department Let's help out the people that that knew and cared about Kyla if you know something it's time to
00:54:11
come up come off that information heal your soul make your own soul feel better do it do it for selfish reasons tell
00:54:20
pass on that information we we don't care about the misdemeanor we're only looking for f
00:54:25
the sign on the wall says homicide that's all we care about so reach out to the St Clair Sheriff's Office the
00:54:32
current detective in charge is detective Matthew con you can reach out to the St
00:54:38
Clair sheriff's department and reach out to detective cone by calling 205 884 3333 your
00:54:54
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