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every gather around grab a chair grab a beer let's talk some true [Laughter] crime here we have these two solved
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murders taking place not only close together on the calendar but the added terrifying aspect to these two
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crimes is the close proximity from one another it's like .2 miles from one murder scene to the other
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victim's front doorstep and the second victim is the delivering newspapers and found about2 mil from her home on her
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newspaper route so about a 5-minute walk from where she took off that morning and
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again these murders while the police are working under two different ideas here with their investigation are they
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connected they're working under the idea that yes they are but also no they are not so running this investigation all
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Hands-On deck operation here for the murder of Joan berghard who took place August 99th or 8th 1992 she's found on
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the 9th and then Charlotte schmoyer who was found June 9th of 1993 her body was found in a wooded area near the easts
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side allent Town Reservoir the way that the two individuals were attacked different we
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have stab wounds in one case and then a bludgeon type murder in the other case one taking Place everything taking place
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outside Outdoors we assume and then the other attack everything took place inside the victim's apartment this
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neighborhood is not going to get really any relief at all because what we're going to have
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happen here is June 20th so this is 11 days after the murder that we discussed at
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length we have another situation where some one breaks into a home this home is located on North Maxwell Street this is
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all in the same neighborhood every one of these locations that we've just mentioned all within walking distance
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from one another you could walk there in minutes time someone entered through a window now this is going to be similar
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to the Joon berghard case whoever broke into her apartment and killed her they entered through one
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of the windows they they pulled out or pushed out the screen to one of the windows and climbed into the first floor
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apartment at this home on North Maxwell Street someone broke into the home in the middle of the night so the
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way that this is described Captain is that it's believed that there was this was probably in the early morning
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hours there is two adults in the home but very sadly there is a 5-year-old girl in the home the 5-year-old is
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snatched from her bed carried by her neck thrown into a like laundry basket type of thing carried to another
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location where she is assaulted and choked and strangled it's believed that the attacker had every
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reason to think that he had successfully killed the victim before fleeing the home now we don't have a lot of details
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on this case because you can imagine the sensitivity of the case given the the young age of the victim right we're very
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lucky that the victim survived because the victim survived they didn't want to release a
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lot of details in this case so that makes a lot of sense now one thing we do know that there was a
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burglary robbery type aspect to this assault because the the adult female who was in the house her purse was
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found on the lawn of the property and some of the items from her purse had been taken and they didn't recover those
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items so it it was hard to determine for police and investigators several different things
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one was this a situation where somebody broke in with the intent of intent of stealing money and then for some sick
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reason decided to assault a child or was assault all part of the Breakin to begin with right and then you
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have to go a step further and go okay well is this connected to the two previous crimes this this is a very
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different victimology Joan berghard lived alone this is a home of at least three PE
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persons in the home that we know of and Charlotte schmoyer was out alone on her newspaper route June 29th N9 days after
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the 5-year-old girl is attacked a home on East Highland Street again this is the same
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neighborhood somebody broke into that home now the way that this story goes is pretty
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unique because inside this home we have a woman she's in her late 830s she's there alone that night her husband she's
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married and lives with her husband but her husband travels on occasion for work he happens to not be home that night so
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she's at home sleeping alone in the middle of the night when she says that she she woke up for unknown reasons she
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don't know what startled her from her sleep she wake wakes up and she gets like this really uneasy feeling you know
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how you just sometimes you just get this this gut feeling right that something is
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not right yeah something you feel it in your gut and in your but she says she woke up with this feeling that not only
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something not right but she doesn't hear anything doesn't see see anything she just
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says I had this mysterious anxiety quote I had a very eerie feeling I felt like somebody was in my
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house so she decides this is how freaked out she is she do have a lot of clothing on she's
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sleeping she's in her own home it's middle of night right she's not even worried about getting
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dressed she thought I'll just wrap myself up in the in the blanket and I'm I'm running outside and I'm going to the
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neighbor's house well before she could get out that door somebody grabbed her from
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behind and she was attacked she was sexually assaulted she was beaten very badly so one could almost
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say that attempted murder 100% attempted murder and let's just go back to this idea that her husband happened not to be
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home you have all these crimes happening in this neighborhood somebody is stalking and
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monitoring some everybody's actions within this neighborhood this attacker left her for dead and a lot a large
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portion of the attack she's she's doing her best to fight back and to fight him off and to try to
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escape the best she can do is she this attack it it starts inside when he grabs her while she's trying to flee but it
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ends up on the on the lawn and so a large portion of the attack occurred outside in the Pitch Black in the middle
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of the night she's left for dead there's again similar situation as we just talked
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about from the June 20th attack police they're on the scene paramedics on the scene and everybody sitting there going
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there's a very good chance that that whoever did this only left only stopped the attack because they thought they
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were successful in killing the victim here again we get lucky no that's not the case our victim here
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survives but think about what we've been talking about here forget about the 1992
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murder for a second once 93 hits the summer of 93 Charlotte schmoyer is killed June 9th
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the attack on North Maxwell Street is June 20th this is June 29th so 11 days between attack number
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two and three and then just nine days between three in attack number four and I know
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there's some differences in all these attacks but there's also some similarities and if you're law
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enforcement you have to start thinking that maybe all of these are connected but it's not going to stop there we're
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going to end up with July 14th we have a woman her husband and their four kids they are staying with
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the woman's mother this is at 407 North Brian street again same neighborhood the mom and
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grandmother is 47-year-old Jessica Fortney now in the early morning hours of July 14th
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1993 Jessica's daughter and son-in-law who had been sleeping on the third floor with their four children
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they wake up early that morning they find 47-year-old Jessica Fortney dead on the living room couch so they go down to
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the first floor and they find her strangled and leg to death on the sofa here you you talked about
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similarities we already mentioned the bludgeoning the it was clear that the attacker
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entered this property through a window as well climbs in through a window it's almost exactly like the 1992 murder yeah
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and is somehow able to attack this woman and but Alo at the same time keep the commotion level down enough to not
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alert her daughter and son-in-law and their kids that are sleeping on the third floor right it's very likely that if
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these attacks are happening at similar hours of the night or early morning hours that some of these persons that
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are being attacked like the woman that says I just woke up in the middle of the night and had this feeling somebody was
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in in my house the these persons may be attacked while they're still sleeping that they they never they didn't wake up
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before the attack started so now police are dealing with their third homicide investigation in less than one year's
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time all in the same neighborhood and while you don't have anything forensically telling you that
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these are all connected I don't know how and it doesn't appear that that the detectives were confused it appears to
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me that they weren't willing to openly state that that's there's no reason for you to state state that these are 100%
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connected until you connect them well and once you make that statement to the public you're pulling the fire
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alarm and you're going to have a it's a double-edged sword you want the community to take this seriously you
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want the community to be locking their doors not staying alone uh making sure their windows are
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locked but you don't want them to be in an allout Panic even though you know chances are these are all connected the
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other thing too that and this is not like not so risky but you'll see that this should be a
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consideration if you are quick to go to the public and say all of these attacks or all three of these murders are
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connected we're looking for a serial killer the problem later becomes if science tells you no they're not all
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connected and you make an arrest and you make it let's say you make an arrest in
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all of the cases and you end up with two perpetrators or three perpetrators what
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you're going to have is if one of those perpetrators has a a smart able defense attorney they're going to present at
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court right out the gate uh keep in mind my guy the guy that's standing trial today wasn't always the guy that the
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police were looking for the police were on record saying that all these crimes are connected so those other person or
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persons that they arrested in those crimes those guys were at one time considered that guy was one time
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considered a suspect so you what you're doing is you're already creating doubt you're creating some form of Doubt which
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which we've talked about this a hundred times here in the garage what the best detectives
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do is you work the case you collect the evidence you follow the evidence all the while being concerned
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about about a conviction getting the conviction in trial how can I best drive this investigation to number one find
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the guy get my guy but two make sure that I don't do anything or say anything that could later muck this up in the
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court we're going to go 4 days later after the murder on July 14th this is going to lead us to July 18th when we
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have remember the break-in at East Highland Street that took place June 29th well there's another Breakin at
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that same house July 18th this time the woman her her husband is home this night and in fact after the first
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attack they they didn't move but they did go to Great Lengths to upgrade the security of their home they changed the
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locks they install stalled a security system the woman would say who survived the previous
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attack says that she wakes up again she wakes up in the middle of the night again her husband's home this time right
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she wakes up looks over at her husband her husband is lying in bed Eyes Wide Open staring at their bedroom door with
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the gun that they purchase to keep them safe in his hands on his chest he goes he he looks right at her and he says be
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quiet there's someone in the house so he's already aware he's already heard something that has alerted him that
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there is someone in the house yeah he had that feeling in his gut and in his butt this would lead
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to um something to tip off the Intruder and the the Intruder flees thankfully know no one is attacked that
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night oh come on it would have been great if the guy would have opened up the door got a face full of lead well
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this is going to be a pivotal point in the investigation and for for this case because what we're going to see
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here is that police come up with this idea they go okay well we we are kind of quietly behind the scenes working this
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as a lot of these if not all of these situations are 100% connected but here we have a situation where the guy may
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have returned to the home now you're starting to think back to the Joan berghard murder aren't you where you go
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wait a second she reported a burglary at her apartment 5 days prior to the Breakin that led to her murder right is
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that that can't be a coincidence now that doesn't seem like a likely coincidence now now that we have a
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situation where This Woman's nearly killed on her lawn and then we have less than a month's time 20 days later the
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home is broken into again and this again this is a safe neighborhood this is not
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a a neighborhood that was dealing with with a large amount of break-ins prior to what starts happening in June of 1993
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it's almost like the attacker realized oh that you know when I broke into that house and I attacked that lady she
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didn't die I got to go back could have came back to try to silence a witness to permanently silence
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a witness or you know finish the job police with the permission of and I bet you they didn't have to ask too hard
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they decide you know what we're going to put an officer in this home the home that was
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broken into twice and we want to put an officer in the home of the the 5-year-old girl who survived the attack
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on North Maxwell Street good thinking of course both families agree so now you're doing this not just
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to keep these people protected but also you're doing it hoping to lead to a potential arrest should this person
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enter one of these homes again so I think this is a good plan by law enforcement it's a good plan by the
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community the Trap is set to catch this piece of [ __ ] so we have a officer Allentown Police Officer Lewis who was
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assigned to stay in the house of the prior adult victim on East Highland Street so you have
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the husband and wife that are in their bedroom you have the officer who was positioned thems in the
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dark living room right you have the the lights turned off in the living room but
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they they purposely left like some windows cracked some you know maybe a window or two open and a light or two on
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in the house you want to kind of showcase to your potential per that the the here it is for the
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taking come and get it now around this is July 31st okay so the the initial attack the first time that this home was
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attacked and The woman Inside was attacked would have taken place June 29th the second attempt at whatever took
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place July 18th we're now at July 31st so just about a month later at 1:30 in the morning the police officer
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stationed inside of this home officer Lewis spotted a gloved hand coming in one of the
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windows then he sees the screen being knocked out and the officer plays it cool he's going to he's going to wait
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till he can see a body right he's not going to risk be you get one shot at this after he sees the
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gloved hand and then the knocking out of the screen the officer's in the living room
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he's he's watching and watching and watching waiting for the Intruder to enter the home
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yes and he does he sees somebody crawl into that window and that's when the officer made his presence known he he
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stands up gun drawn he's yelling police freeze police freeze instead of surrendering this
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Intruder reaches for a gun and at the same time starts to dive to the floor we're going to have a
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bit of a a a shootout here not a lot of bullets fired I i' I've heard this described a couple and read
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this described a couple different ways it sounds like both the officer and the Intruder shot at each other a couple of
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times this led to somehow the Intruder managed to smash out a window this was a window of the back
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door and then escapes using that method now here's another thing that the police
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got right they are now searching the area they're out in the middle of the night looking for whoever broke into
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this home but they're also convinced that there's a high probability that during either the course of the shootout
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or him breaking out the window and fleeing that maybe their Intruder was injured in the process so
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they notify all the area hospitals to be on high alert for a man seeking treatment for cuts they believe that he
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cut himself they're not saying that they found blood at the scene I'm guessing they must have found some blood at that
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scene or or fleeing from that scene right and this is where they get their break because just a couple of hours
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later they get the call that they are looking for they ended up arresting a man outside of the Lee High Valley
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Hospital this man had gone in for treatment can you say dumbass so here's going to be the
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icing on the cake so the the individual that they arrest mhm his name is Harvey Robinson and he's he's very he's
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surprisingly young he's 19 20 years old at the time they arrest him this is going to
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allow them to search his home they go to his home and in his bedroom they find a
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gun that is hidden in one of his boots inside of his bedroom closet the interesting thing here is this gun is is
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going to secure him as suspect number one right right because he he could claim he
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got cut elsewhere he could come up with some kind of story but what he cannot explain way is the gun that he used to
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fire back at the officer that he had with him that night was a gun that he stole from one of these homes that we've
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discussed so he's in these homes Captain he's assaulting the women attempting to
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kill them and he's stealing items and one of the items stolen in the process was this gun eventually it's going to
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take some time but eventually they're going to get DNA back and secure evidence from Harvey Robinson that tells them
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that he is absolutely the person who killed the first two victims we discussed he killed Joan burkard 29
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years old nurse's aid in her one room apartment her two room apartment on August 9th
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1992 he killed the newspaper carrier Charlotte schmoyer June 9th 1993 and they had every reason to
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believe that he was responsible for the assault and attempted murder on the 5-year-old the murder of Jessica Jean
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Fortney July 14th 1993 and that he was the individual that attacked this woman that lived in the small Brick House on
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East Highland Street on June 29th 1993 attempted to break into the house on July 18th of
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1993 and then was the Intruder that the officer shot at on July 31st 1993 say it with me got got of
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course they find a vehicle belonging to Robinson that matches the description given provided to police in the murder
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of the newspaper carrier so a lot of evidence to connect this guy there's a lot of things that I found very
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interesting about this investigation captain something that we don't see in some of the investigations that we've
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discussed while you C you cannot no one would go out of their way to call this a
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successful investigation there's so there's so much tragedy that took place here we got three people that were
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killed and two that were nearly killed but what you see right away is the police did everything right
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the the the town allent town did everything right the mayor's saying look use anything by all
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means cost is not an issue figure out how to catch this guy figure out how to protect this town this city this
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neighborhood they collect DNA at multiple crime scenes they bring in the FBI to help them assist with the with
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the science of that DNA and making comparisons and the testing they put undercover officers spread out
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through the neighborhood especially right after the the Charlotte case took place and then later they're putting
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officers inside the homes of these two individuals to protect them and hopefully to catch this
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know we don't like to go through the court stuff too much here and and there was a lot of a lot of different things
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as far as the legal process goes in this case sometimes it's really fascinating other times it's a boore well and what
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you're going to have here Captain is that in 1994 Harvey Robinson was sentenced to
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death for these crimes anytime somebody is sentenced to death there's going to be a lot of appeals that go back and
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forth with that some of the the the problems that we will have with the courts here in this
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case is he's 18 19 18 years old very young when he's committing this very violent Killing
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Spree killing three people severely injuring two people and because of his young age you're going to naturally
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you're going to have people on the juries and you're going to have people in the courts officers of the court that
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are going to be concerned about his young age and should we sentence somebody to death uh should that be the
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criminal penalty here for these cases he he is still incarcerated to this day the
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convictions were for first-degree murder three counts attempted murder burglary he's 49 years of age now he's he was a
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local boy Allentown Pennsylvania and what's crazy captain and I mean you don't have to be as Sherlock Holmes to
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make this connection I'm guessing you had the same suspicion I did he he's not just born and raised in Allentown
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Pennsylvania he's local to this neighborhood he lives very nearby this neighborhood and what there's some
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things though that are surprising to me the police did a really good job about getting this vehicle description out to
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the public so much so that they even provided pictures of course they don't have pictures of the actual vehicle but
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they provided pictures to the public that says this is based off of the description and all of our efforts and
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all of our talks with the eyewitness this is a vehicle that is extremely similar to the one that we are looking
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for and put this in the papers and put it on the local news Harvey Robinson Harvey Miguel Robinson young man living
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with his mother in the area the fact that she didn't come forward saying oh yeah yeah I recognize that car or oh
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here's somebody you should probably talk to yeah maybe you want to talk to my [ __ ] princess of a son either she
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doesn't watch the news or was living under a rock I I maybe she just didn't know maybe she was just oblivious to the
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situation or not oblivious to the situation never saw the description or the picture of the car yeah or maybe she
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heard people talking about this and she just couldn't fathom that her son would be responsible for this one thing too
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here we talked about in the first episode that when you have these types of crimes and we're talking about the
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sexual assault aspect of these crimes is that the driving Factor could be the murder seems to be a big part of it
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too this individual for whatever reason seemed to have a need to kill or have something in him that made him
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incredibly evil in a drive to destroy and a drive to kill the robbery the burglary the sexual
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assaults are all a part of that of course but I I really think like you're looking at someone that just that wanted
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to kill we talked about how fast how the the how the speed the repetition of this
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would pick up and increase and that when we've seen other types of these crimes that they always escalate one thing that
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probably saved some lives or prevented these attacks and murders from taking place
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earlier is that after the murder of Jon bergart and before the murder of Charlotte
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schmoyer Harvey Robinson was arrested for burglary because of those charges he served eight
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months in prison that is that to me tells us why we had a 10-month gap between murder one and murder two but it
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also like we've seen in other cases where you go well we can't just look at individual
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that have sexual assaults on their records or attempted rapes if you would have had your search
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go out a little further and say well let's look into somebody that has any criminal activity as far as burglaries
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go this guy would have been on their radar from from Jump Street yeah you're you're knocking on the door of something
00:35:52
that I was just about to talk about one thing that we've brought up a few times on on the show over the years if you go
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back one of my favorite interviews that we've done was with retired FBI agent Jeffrey rck he wrote a book that we've
00:36:08
recommended several times it's called in the name of the children an FBI agents Relentless pursuit of America's worst
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predators in that interview he told us that when you are looking for a rapist or someone that breaks into home
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and kills people he said that he found that he should always be looking at persons who had been arrested for
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burglary charges as well because he found that a lot of times it it goes too intent right he's
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saying they got arrested on a burglar recharge because the person woke up in the middle of the night and saw the man
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standing there in their room or heard something in the house called the police and the police catch the guy fleeing
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from the house they're arrested on burglary because what their intent was to break
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into the home and rape and murder one or the other of both they didn't get to do because they
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were detected before they could get to that so the only charge they can bring them up on is burglary and in fact these
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crimes are rare enough that one would easily go okay well this was just a burglary great we caught the guy he's
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probably burglar so some other homes but what's interesting to me here is we don't know the details of the
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burglary that Harvey Robinson was arrested for but that is that exact same scenario
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that Jeffrey ryck explained to us but what happens here Captain what do we see between murder one and murder
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two the burglary arrest and the burglary charge the the first victim unfortunately was
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killed inside her apartment he broke into the home and killed her there the second victim he saw her out on her
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paper route and he attacked and abducted her there he adapted he learned from that
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arrest and then you go well wait a second but the the next victim was attacked inside their home and then the
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victim after that attacked inside their home and killed inside their home yeah he adapted
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again because of how quickly the second victim was found and how there was a witness there was a witness that saw him
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driving away gave a great description of his vehicle to police they put flyers up everywhere
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they're looking for this vehicle they're looking for this person yeah but also that victim could be happen stance it
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could be I'm looking for a house to break into or I was on the prow and monitoring different houses and now I'm
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going home for the night oh here's this girl out doing her paper route yeah I'm going to attack her this
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guy when you think of serial killers he has an Impulse that I don't think that was not
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going to be controlled he was not going to stop he could not even stop his impulse to go
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back to the scene of other crimes to then try to commit another crime at a place he already victimized somebody yep
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time and time again me you want to talk about impulsive this guy's repulsive and
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impulsive we talked about when we when we went through the Starved Rock murders case there was a scenario in that case
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where a group of Searchers when they found the bodies of the three victims the Searchers some of the
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Searchers that were used were youngsters these these young guys from a troubled youth camp
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nearby and one of those youths went on to murder someone just months after having found the Starved Rock victim so
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we brought up the idea of well is it the chicken or the egg and oddly enough here
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Captain we have we have grounds for that same discussion here because Harvey Robinson's father who he did not have a
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a great lengthy relationship with his father had murdered someone had had had beat a woman to
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death this was back in I believe it was 1962 at the end of 1962 murdered a woman named marleene
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Perez and it sounds like that his father was married he was a musician father of
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three they find this poor Miss Perez killed in her apartment now he kind of gets caught
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red-handed because one of the neighbors hears what's going on and calls the police and when the police show up it's
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it's Mr Robinson and the neighbor and marleene Perez who has now sadly been fatally beaten so he gets caught
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red-handed and this is not something that our per hary Miguel Robinson would not have been aware of and and so you
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just you you analyze these things and you look at it and you go well does this have anything to do yes it has to have
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something to do with how this guy turned out out now is it the is it the sole reason that he would go on to be a
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serial killer no I can't believe that but yeah you're right he has something in him some something in him that drives
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him to do these horrible things and part of that has to be something that was handed down to him
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from his father either genetically or or through the uh his upbringing but yeah Captain you have
00:42:25
everything that was done right unfortunately it wasn't able to prevent Harvey Robinson from being very
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dangerous from killing a lot of people from killing three people and almost two others and who knows how many lives he
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destroyed along the way these this this tragedy it carries far and wide with this number of
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victims well let's just take a minute to applaud law enforcement yes there was a
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bunch of crimes happening in a very small location but they were all hands on deck
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and on top of that we had officers that put their lives on the line MH to put themselves in
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between this animal this piece of [ __ ] and the community and to could you imagine what
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that would be like what are you doing to day at work well I'm going to go sit in a
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house and wait for this vicious murderer to show up and then it's go time then it's less
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roll it's either going to be him or me and because of this fight that the officer put
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up there became damage to Harvey and Harvey had to then go seek help and when then he went to seek help
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boom we got him but you have to you have to applaud law enforcement for putting themselves into
00:44:04
danger like that and how intelligent their investigation was and the efforts that they were
00:44:13
making as said you can see it was all handson deck and they were willing to do whatever it took to to apprehend this
00:44:21
individual because as you can clearly see on the flip of that is this guy was not going to stop and he was going to
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continue to do this and he was going to work to get better at it more stealth likee that's the other thing too it's it
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the the killer gets lucky police didn't get lucky here they they never saw him running around in the dark of the night
00:44:44
all of the and they are they're patrolling heavy Patrol in this area but that's where I would disagree
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with you I think because of his impul iveness and because I think these urges to want to attack to rape to
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kill were becoming more and more frequent and I think once it was almost like once he got put in jail even though
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it wasn't for murder it was just like eff it here we go I'm going to keep doing this until I get
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caught yeah and so I don't know if he was trying to become more sophisticated because I don't think a
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sophisticated killer would go back and Tred to attack a victim they already tried to attack
00:45:37
before right but he's certainly not trying to get worse at it true he and he did manage to go undetected even though
00:45:45
the the the police are patrolling and watching this area the the thing too about the the the officers stationing
00:45:54
themselves inside those homes from my understanding it was the way that they would do this would be a their shift
00:46:02
would start around midnight and I think it would end at 5 or 6 in the morning and I'm guessing that they based those
00:46:09
times off of things that they were seeing in the previous break-ins and what they knew from what
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time of night that those previous break-ins took place but to be clear here Captain they didn't set this traing
00:46:24
on night one he was caught no they they set this trap the night after he broke into this home on East Highland Street
00:46:35
the second time the night after he broke into that home the second time so for 13
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nights in a row there was an officer in both of these homes waiting and waiting and waiting for the night that he would
00:46:48
finally come back and he did finally come back and that would ultimately lead to his arrest I do want to go back to
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that house on Bryant Street where unfortunately we had the third murder the house on Bryant Street where
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Jessica Fortney was murdered after the arrest of Harvey Robinson Jessica Fort fortney's son-in-law Ricky who was 35 at
00:47:14
the time and still living in that home with his wife and kids you're worried about this guy
00:47:20
coming back of course Ricky 35 wife and kids in the home mother-in-law had been murdered there he's worried about this
00:47:29
guy coming back he's terrified his kids are terrified when he learned that there was
00:47:34
finally an arrest in this case he said quote I jumped for Joy at the news adding we feel safe now he said now I
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sleep in peace and to this day Captain Harvey Miguel Robinson he remains in custody
00:47:52
he's imprisoned at the SCI Phoenix location Correction Facility in Pennsylvania where he has been since
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1994 when he was convicted I think that what we see here from this case is that there is a lot to
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learn not only about the behavior of individuals as evil as Harvey Robinson but also a lot to learn and to be gained
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by the way that the Allentown Police Department handled and conducted this investigation and their attempt to keep
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the people of this neighborhood [Music] safe oh yes want to thank you for joining us here in the garage you could
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be anywhere and you ch CH to be here cuz you're amazing Colonel do we have any recommended reading for the beautiful
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listeners this week we are recommending a need to kill by Mark Pettit it's the True Crime Story of John jber a serial
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killer who after the FBI was brought in he was apprehended and later executed in
00:49:16
Nebraska he was convicted of murdering three boys Mark petett is the only reporter to talk with Jill Bear and
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Pettit spent hours talking with families of the victims and found that Jil bear most likely felt his need to kill long
00:49:31
before he came to Nebraska check out a need to kill by Mark petett you can find that great recommendation and many more
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