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[Music] [Music] we've all seen the movies about con men scam artists and the smooth talking
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types someone quick to play you for the fool or someone in it for the long game the slow play
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sometimes they manage to be so good that they leave the cops scratching their heads after the grifter skips town
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with everyone's money but those are the movies just entertainment they require a suspension of disbelief
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there is a real life case that makes those Hollywood scam artists look like amateurs
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in this case the con man fools the almighty FBI time and time again this man turned on his friends used the
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feds to keep him out of prison and anyone that got too close or Knew Too Much with total disregard for human
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life or relationships he disposed of them just how twisted was this man and what do we really know about his
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murders or motives this is true crime garage this is the case Scott Lee Kimball [Music]
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[Music] foreign Scott Lee Kimball received his punishment for theft and for fleeing
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this is for the time he split from the Montana prison release and stole money and a truck from the gas station that he
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was working at now he pled guilty but again he was allowed to go free on supervised release
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just how supervised was this release well that depends on whether you think fraud and murder are permissible
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activities while on supervised release things started to fall apart for Lori and Scott
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the police were called to a domestic altercation at Scott and Lori's house and they arrested someone for assault
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surprise it was Lori according to Lori Scott called the cops and reported that she threatened to kill
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him and threw a vacuum at him police even issued Scott a restraining order protecting him from his wife
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Lori was arrested again in August for violating the restraining order she believes that Scott invented the
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whole thing invented the whole story to get rid of her so that he could bring in
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his new girlfriend this is Melissa Anderson uh get her out of the house and bring Melissa in
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as you may recall Scott had told the FBI that Jennifer Markham who is missing that she went to
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New York to kill Jason price at her boyfriend's request but he then later says that price had strangled
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Jennifer Markham and Scott remember he claims to have even seen photographs of the body
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so agents they go to speak with Jason price he has a completely different story surprise surprise there you go not only
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did he not kill Jennifer Markham but he says that he actually suspects that Scott would be involved in The
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Disappearance of Jennifer and Steve Ennis he's the boyfriend of Jennifer Markham that that Scott knew in
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prison he denies that he ever involved Jennifer in any of his illegal activities Scott
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seems like and we suggested this last week Captain sounds like he made up the entire story one to get him out of
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prison two it ends up getting him involved with Jennifer Markham who is now missing and he's pointing the finger
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at other people well we know Scott is a liar but I also think Scott has a tendency when he was in the cell with
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this individual he sees Jennifer Markham and she's very attractive and so he's smittenmeyer and he wants to get to know
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her he wants her for himself well and remember he is put in charge of keeping an eye on Jennifer Markham because he
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told the Feds that there's this whole murder For Hire plot that's going on and that they need to keep an eye on her she
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is missing now so they're still trying to figure out can we trust this guy uh who's telling us these stories maybe
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maybe he is on the up and up and he is actually helping no no here's the problem
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when somebody's in jail for fraudulent charges this this is your red flag from the
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beginning you might have this guy be an informant for you but you might have to track him very
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closely because him lying and scamming people is what landed him into prison right he's he's a
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known liar known scammer and it's kind of like it's almost like they forgot about that you got involved with him and
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now you're having a hard time believing that he could possibly be lying to you right so what's interesting though
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remember they did make him take a polygraph test to try to figure out is he on the up and up is he telling them
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the truth or what at least Scott believes to be the truth and he passed that polygraph that was in regards
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Strictly To The Disappearance of Jennifer Markham now they're questioning all that behavior again especially after
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they speak with Steve Ennis and they speak with Jason price so they want to give Scott another the
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FBI decided to make Scott take another lie detector test when questioned about Jennifer Markham
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this time his answers showed deception right now Scott around this same time he moves into a rental house after the
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whole cattle ranch thing seemed to be a fail he paid for the rental this with checks
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The Bouncing kind of course then in late 2005 Scott wrecked his Jeep and collected 10
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799.16 in insurance money then two weeks later Scott reported to the Lafayette PD that his trailer
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remember the one that he stole well he reported someone stole it from him and for this he collected ten thousand
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dollars in insurance money meanwhile ridiculous Scott had his girlfriend Melissa Anderson use her name
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and her identification to purchase a Winchester rifle at Walmart and then give it to him remember because of his
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past charges and convictions he is not allowed to possess a firearm it's after he gets the gun from the new
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girlfriend that he decides oh I no longer need you and he ditches Melissa this time for good
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now let's get back to Jennifer Markham who's missing the FBI entered her name as a missing person in the National
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Crime information center database law enforcement agencies were under pressure from Jennifer's family to find her
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Jennifer was a dancer who was involved with a known and convicted drug dealer but she had Parents who loved her very
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much and loved her little boy responded that she was missing and frustrated at the lack of interest from
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the FBI her father Bob Markham asked a cop buddy of his to run his daughter's name through a national criminal
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database hoping that maybe you know maybe she was in jail somewhere or even in witness protection somewhere this
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search alerted agent schlaff remember he's the one who had been working with Scott Kimball
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agent schlaf contacts Bob and told him that they could not find Jennifer Markham she's she's missing and he
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actually said that it appears that quote she just dropped off the map well it's not really
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clear what happened to her child either well the the child is at I believe with the parents with her parents okay so
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they're raising her child correct okay so now we have schlaf tells Bob that a man was in possession of
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Jennifer's Furniture remember she moved in temporarily very briefly with Scott Kimball now he does not mention Scott's
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Kimball's name when he gives her this information but he does give Bob a phone number of the man who has Jennifer's
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Furniture and when he hands it over when he hands over the phone number Captain he says Bob when you call this number
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ask for a guy named Joe snitch so Bob and his ex-wife which is Jennifer's mom uh Mary Willis is her
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name they set up a meeting with this man with Joe snitch AKA we know to be Scott
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Kimball yeah douche Kimball they told Scott Kimball going under the name of Joe snitch tells Bob and Mary
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that Jennifer was murdered and he knew who did it and even where her body could be located and how it happened yeah he
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offered to take them to her body but he says this is somewhere far away and Joe snitch gave them a very bad
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feeling when they met so immediately the two declined they didn't want to spend any more time with this guy that's not
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good loss over this too much they're at a park they meet at a park right and when they meet at that Park he lets them
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know I I can show you everything I can I can tell you everything but but the reason why he can't he can't actually
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verbally say it right because he says it's classified information this is this is what was confusing to me
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at first like why would he be able to show them but not tell them but his his ruse is
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that this is classified information so I'd get in big trouble but I can show you so they go back to
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their hotel and and they're contemplating this well at least her mother is she's saying well I want to go up in
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these mountains I want I want him to show me and her ex-husband saying you're gonna
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die if you do this he's probably going to kill you uh and her statement was well at least
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she would know I'm like yeah but what would knowing matter if seconds later you're you're
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dead and again they don't know the history of sky but he's such a liar is he going to even tell him the correct
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information but what a strange thing for somebody to tell you especially somebody that you think is a
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part of law enforcement well and somebody that gave you a bad enough vibe that you didn't want to go
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up into the mountains with them or to to this place that he says is somewhere far
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away right so I wasn't going to gloss over that in fact let's get into that a little more
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um the the weird move as you stated is Scott says to Mary you know mind you she's in her own hotel
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room let me come over to your hotel room that night and I will demonstrate on you how
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Jennifer was killed you know well play play a little role-playing and act this thing out right of course Mary
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declines but Scott shows up at Mary's hotel room anyway that night and she very wisely does not let him in to the
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room now much later this is much much later down the timeline but I want to point it out here so it doesn't get lost
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in the shuffle police actually found what would be look to be like a contract that was drawn up of sorts right
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this is when they were going through some of Scott's things now the contract air quotes is dated with
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the date of that night that same night that Scott shows up to the hotel room to Mary's hotel room saying I can
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demonstrate for you how your daughter was killed this contract of course is intended to be between Mary and Joe
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Scott or Joe snitch the contract according to the wording allowed Scott to bind gag and possibly even have sex
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with Mary Mary would have been signing off for consent to as the contract States and quote
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I am willing to participate and I expect to engage in bondage and sexual activity
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end quote this according to the according to the Daily Camera now both parents came away from this certain
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that they had just looked into the eyes of their daughter's killer yeah two weeks after all of this weird [ __ ] Mary
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Willis recorded a phone conversation with Scott again referring to him as Joe you heard some of that call at the start
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of the show last week now on the call Mary demanded to know more about Jennifer but refused to play
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Joe snitch's game right she would not sign the sex contract or allow Scott to demonstrate how her daughter was killed
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says quote you had your chance this is what what Scott responds with you had your chance and then he proposed that
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Mary hire an escort on whom he could demonstrate the murder in front of her saying quote I'll show you exactly what
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happened and you can just be a bystander he said now Mary said she wanted a Christian burial she tells Joe snitch I
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want a Christian burial for Jennifer right and then he responds with quote your my daughter means ever I'm
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sorry she says my daughter means everything to me to which Joe snitch responds quote
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you know what I saw how much she meant to you when you wouldn't let me into your hotel room
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and I want to apologize Captain because I'm kind of a little jumbled here because this guy is using so many
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different names you know he's Scott Lee Kimball he's Joe Scott he's Joe snitch but just keep in mind this is all the
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same guy so yeah there's a bunch of douches and one canal Joe snitch warned Mary that he could
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just disappear he said his Handler at the FBI again agent schlaff would be obligated to move him to hide him or do
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whatever and she should keep that in mind he also said that agent schlaf dictated exactly what he could say and
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what he was not allowed to say about the case and saying that he can't say much and that's that's going to what you said
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there where he's like I can act it out but I can't tell you which makes it stupid even in a Bizarro World it makes
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zero sense so but we need to keep on two points here as one is one we have this contract like you said the sex contract
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and then we also have them all you don't want to to role play with me let's hire
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escort and I'll role play with her again the the sex part is important because I believe with some of these
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murders they were sexually motivated and and we'll get into um maybe why he confesses to some crimes
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and why he doesn't confess to other crimes later right and I mean these Mary could have been in danger just for
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knowing what she knew or for contacting this man that we know to be a dangerous man but she is uncertain of that but
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then on top of that there's certain ones they meet him you factor in the the um psychological
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thought and behavior there that maybe once he starts acting this out at some point he can't turn back or can't stop
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himself and he goes all the way through with it right so yet somehow even after all of that Captain this
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story just continues to get weirder so in October of 2005 Scott met up with Bob and Mary uh this time is in a
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parking lot he's meeting with them again this time he's meeting with them to hand
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over all of Jennifer's things that he had in his possession Scott was accompanied by
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FBI agent schlaff and the agent had acknowledged that they lost track of Jennifer despite this Bob and Mary kept
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at it Bob had his buddy this is very smart Bob has his buddy run the plate on the truck that is being driven by this
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Joe snitch guy right it comes back of course registered to a Scott Kimball then Bob and Mary again very smart I
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applaud these people paid for a billboard to be set up outside of Shotgun Willies that's the
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strip club where Jennifer worked and they were contacted I mean what could this hurt we're going to put up
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this billboard maybe somebody reaches out to us maybe it even solves the crime who knows but what ultimately ends up
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happening which is a blessing they're contacted Bob is contacted by a newspaper so he
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ends up being interviewed not about the case but more about the billboard and in the interview Bob mentions very
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smartly that his daughter was last seen with Scott Kimball who he says in the interview and this comes out in the
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paper seems to know a lot about her disappearance this brings us to January of 2006
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captain and for those of you keeping score at home we have clearly pointed out that Scott was committing fraud he
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was stealing lying cheating and very suspiciously he was the last person seen with not one
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not two or three but four people who have vanished by this point now Scott is looking for
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I'm guessing at this point he's probably looking for a big score something bigger
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than his nickel and dime stuff right and an opportunity presented itself when a man named Cleve Armstrong decided to
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take a vacation now who is Cleve he is a successful optometrist and friend of Scott Kimball's Scott and his mother
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rented space in the same building where Cleves practice was located Cleve goes on vacation and Scott got to work using
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Cleves financials uh Scott moved thousands of dollars he stole all these documents from Cleve's
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workspace and he moves thousands of dollars from Cleves money market account to his
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checking account to Cliff's checking account then over the next three weeks he forged nearly 55 000 worth of checks
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to his own companies so basically he's having Cleves money market account move a bunch
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of money to his personal checking account and then having cleave write checks to Scott Kimball's companies
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remember he had that Rocky Mountain all-natural Beef Company and the Rocky Mountain Cattle Company so of course
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he's probably selling horse meat and he discovers that he discovers this theft and of course he Blows the Whistle
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on Scott He it was pretty obvious who was doing this when you have the checks made out to yourself it's not a long
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paper trail to get to Scott I wonder how did he get this money so as a result of all of this now he's in
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hot water again what does Scott do when he's in hot water we've seen it time and
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time again he flees this time he flees to California where he shacked up with yet another
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girlfriend I don't know how this guy managed to keep Landing I don't know a big beard and some women really find
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the beard to be irresistible I there's no doubt in my mind that he's a smooth talker and there's no doubt he's
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completely full of [ __ ] there's no doubt in my mind that he can look at a room
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full of people and very quickly discern who are the gullible types and who are the vulnerable types in the room
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so this woman her name is Denise Pierce now back in Lafayette finally because of this whole new theft thing we
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have a competent law man this is detective Gary Thatcher who started to look into Scott Campbell
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now he couldn't find Scott physically but what he found was a treasure Trove of information according to the Daily
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Camera Thatcher found sheets of practice signatures bogus subpoenas regarding the
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assault case against Scott's X Lori a counterfeit lean release for the Jeep that he used to cash in on the insurance
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proceeds after wrecking the vehicle right so so you see what we're pointing out here
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there's a very good chance that this Insurance claim in itself is fraudulent but then would you trace it back even a
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little bit further it's a counterfeit lean release on the Jeep right it doesn't appear that Scott Kimball even
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owned the Jeep now this immediately appeared to detective Thatcher that this Scott
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Kimball was not your average ordinary criminal so Thatcher sat down with Lori and she told Thatcher about all of
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Scott's strange behavior and then she told him about her daughter Casey remember she is one of our missing
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people right and how Scott was the last person who saw her before she vanished and after some good old-fashioned
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snooping around Thatcher found the supposed stolen trailer Hidden on Scott's Old Ranch property which he had
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subleased out to someone else so this is where I tell everybody I'm glad that you're joining us in the
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garage this week but I hope you brought your raincoat because there's gonna be some [ __ ]
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[Music] foreign [Music] cheers there Captain only two people on the garage at a time so for reasons
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unknown and I'm saying that sarcastically agent schlaf was removed from Scott's case
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maybe it's just me maybe it's because he was a super gullible sucker who let this
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con artist make the FBI look like a bunch of clowns um Scott's informant status was revoked
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and a federal arrest warrant was issued for Scott Lee Kimball for multiple parole violations
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on March 14 2006 federal agents finally caught up with Scott Kimball they located him in California using cell
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phone tracking to pin down his location when he saw them coming he took off in his Ford F-350 driving at dangerously
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high speeds flying through California's Coachella Valley this whole Chase was broadcast on local TV
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and this was a lengthy car chase but finally Scott's truck ran out of gas so he is arrested and sentenced this
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time in federal court to uh he ends up getting 10 months in jail in six months in a halfway house for violating his
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parole now how much time does he get for just running from the cops like that well the thing is
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regarding this and I'm with you I'm on your side here this is not a big punishment but what it does is it serves
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a bigger purpose of Simply holding Scott in one place under watch until more cases could be built against him right
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but I I would assume that it would have to be years of punishment for going on a
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high-speed chase like that right I mean you have I I don't want to get all political here go ahead so what we have
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here is they're trying to build possible murder charges against this guy so around the same time the Colorado Bureau
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of Investigation they officially list Casey as a missing person right so all right so sorry if
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you've got that is Scott's stepdaughter well she she in a sense would have been because he is involved with Lori Casey
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lived with him and Lori for a while it's not until after she disappears that the
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two actually got married right but keep in mind Lori when her daughter goes missing
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thinks that that her daughter's out on a drug bender and disappeared and she also
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thinks that Scott's an actual FBI agent that's what he's been telling her this whole time and I'm sure on some level
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she thought you know what it'll be easier to find my daughter if I'm married to an FBI agent and you and I
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well he was also giving her tips yeah pull back the curtain we know that he's not an actual FBI agent and we also know
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that he's scamming everybody uh in in every Walk of Life that he comes into well and it's a like you were saying
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it's kind of a perfect storm if you meet somebody and they say that there are a police officer you might assume that
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well here seems to be an honest individual you tell me that you're a FBI agent oh even higher just like if
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somebody said well I'm a youth Minister then you start assuming that they have a certain
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set of moral standards and moral character that's not always the case right and I'm sorry to keep jumping around
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Captain but there are a lot of families involved in this growing case and unfortunately there's a lot of victims
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as we are now seeing well the story hit your head but what will happen is eventually two of
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the fathers of the missing will join forces so we have remember the newspaper article that we discussed about the
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billboard this is seen by Rob McLeod the father of missing young woman Casey the the former
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you know daughter of his girlfriend or would have been stepdaughter for Scott Kimball Now by this time he knows
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that Scott is believed to be the last person to see or to be with Casey his daughter yeah and he also knows that
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Scott's phone had been turned off for a long period of time and of course this is right around the time
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that Casey vanished so the Two Dads together with Laurie they did some snooping and Lori mentions
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Scott's Uncle Terry he's missing too or at least he he was there one day and he's no longer there
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so Rob and Bob went to the FBI's Denver office this in October of 2006 and they're really kind of trying to lay out
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all of their suspicions for the FBI there and the FBI assigned special agent Jonathan grossing to investigate the
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missing persons cases surrounding Scott Kimball so we have Jennifer Casey and Terry that
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they are aware of at this time it took the Two Dads putting the puzzle together for the FBI to get a clue as to
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what was going on with their one-time informant Scott Campbell right now back to detective Gary Thatcher
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he's the one investigating Scott on the theft of the fifty five thousand dollars
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from the optometrist he was shocked when he learned that Scott Kimball was in fact at one time an
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FBI informant so then he teams up with the now special agent who's in charge of looking into these missing persons cases
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so now here here's what we got going on for those of you keeping score at home we got two of the families have teamed
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up and they're like this dude is suspicious he's probably involved in the missing person's case of our loved one
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and now we have a very competent a very good hard-working detective investigating Scott Kimball for theft
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charges and whatever else he might be involved in and we have a competent FBI agent who's looking at Scott for actual
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missing persons cases because he's duping so many people and lying to everyone and he's fairly
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decent at covering his tracks or at least at leaving the area it really truly takes some people to
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team up together to really piece this story together and figure out what this guy might be guilty of right but now we
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have these detectives that are involved trying to like you said piece together all these puzzle pieces so they can get
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some serious charges against this individual we have several women that he's the last known person to be with
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them and now we have the FBI going well we got a little bit of egg on our face because he was one of our informants big
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stinky egg some big stinky egg uh all over our face and now we're gonna work with these
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detectives again to try to put together those pieces so we can charge them with some serious stuff yeah and one one
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comment that I found to be very interesting in regards to these inspectors that they would say years
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later they're like you know at that time as soon as we came together with all this information we knew immediately
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that the number of missing persons surrounding this one man were just too coincidental and they believed that they
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were probably looking at a series of murders you know saying that in the light of Casey MacLeod Jennifer
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markham's disappearance and don't forget Terry Kimball Uncle Terry's disappearance right they are now
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starting to suspect that Scott wasn't just this con artist or Thief he's very likely a serial killer right
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so the investigators started the process and worked doggedly to put their case together they were assisted by two
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Boulder County Prosecutors this is katharina booth and Amy okobu who were eager to lock up Scott and throw away
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the key both were convinced that Scott was guilty of a lot of evil Deeds now Amy told the Daily Camera quote it
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couldn't be a coincidence there were too many people missing that he was last known to be with the two women started
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looking into Scott's criminal history to see where they could possibly re-arrest him
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on old charges basically to keep him in jail while they continue to build some type of murder case against him right so
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Boulder County issued a warrant for Scott's arrest on suspicion of theft forgery and false reporting for the
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optometrist Cleve Armstrong's case and then in the meantime Scott's suspended sentence in the 2001 Montana
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theft and Escape case was revoked and he was ordered to serve his remaining time
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this is nearly two years behind bars right the team bought themselves some more time basically the lady prosecutors
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were such a thorn in Scott's side that he complained about them in recorded Jailhouse conversations
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always referring to them as the Bolder [ __ ] so good for them though I feel like that
00:37:04
should be a really good softball team like like they've won 18 championships in a row yeah Boulder [ __ ] so now
00:37:14
they are like they're very strongly looking not just at Scott Kimball as the man they're looking into everywhere that
00:37:21
he had been and now we got to look at everyone he may have come into contact with during this time well not only that
00:37:29
but you see time and time again whether it's in print or a documentary about this guy
00:37:37
people saying when you have at least four people missing that are connected to this individual
00:37:45
and he's constantly lying about everything you have to start then going back to did he live in your town and is
00:37:53
there somebody missing that possibly was connected to him well and and it makes it difficult because he's lived under so
00:38:00
many different names yeah you know was he going by Joe snitch or the captain or the colonel hey you leave me out of this
00:38:10
I'm trying to have some fun this is the one time this week that I get to leave my house so
00:38:17
when they're looking into all of the places that he's been and people he's come in contact with this is when
00:38:23
they're going to figure out that um he's on some guns during this time and remember he's prohibited from owning
00:38:31
Firearms having them in his possession per terms of his federal probation so prosecutors jumped at this chance to
00:38:40
pile on more charges against Scott so he was indicted in federal court in Denver on a charge of a felon in
00:38:49
possession of a firearm and then in June of 2007. do you know how many years he got for that I don't know
00:38:58
um and and I may have come across that but I started to the notes got really lengthy on this guy with all the
00:39:05
different court dates and different charges that they brought against him I mean we're talking
00:39:11
about and all the victims since this guy became an adult they're bringing charges
00:39:16
against this guy and yeah and more importantly all the victims but um I would imagine that doesn't seem like it
00:39:24
should be a light charge to me it varies from state to state uh this was Federal Court though
00:39:32
um anyway it this is it this is just lengthening the amount of time he is going to have to be behind bars and
00:39:39
build this case against him so now we have detective Thatcher and agent uh grossing
00:39:47
the FBI agent and the police detective they sit down for a six hour interview with Scott Kimball this is at the
00:39:56
Cascade County Detention Facility the investigators asked Scott about the disappearances of Jennifer Markham of
00:40:05
Casey MacLeod and Terry Kimball his uncle Scott somewhat to the surprise of the two detectives offered to provide
00:40:16
information about Jennifer and his uncle if given immunity for his white collar crimes
00:40:25
now Scott also told them that Casey was still alive Scott danced around providing actual
00:40:33
details saying instead I can't incriminate myself any further now in a later interview he said that Casey
00:40:41
had OD'd somewhere in a national forest in Colorado and that he had seen her fall into the fire while high on meth
00:40:50
causing her death no don't buy it at all detectives continue to interview everyone who had
00:40:59
come in contact with Scott this led them to Steve Ennis Jennifer's boyfriend who
00:41:04
was still in federal prison as they talked he told them about how he had trusted Scott to take care of Jennifer
00:41:11
on the outside he denied the existence of the murder for higher plot and he believed that
00:41:18
Scott was responsible for Jennifer's disappearance but then Steve Dropped a Bomb
00:41:25
he said he knew another guy who experienced almost the exact same thing and he gave the detectives the name of
00:41:34
Stephen Hawley now Stephen Hawley you may recall was the one dating Leanne Emery somebody
00:41:41
that we haven't talked about at all yet in this in this episode we talked about her briefly last week now Stephen just
00:41:49
like the other inmate Stephen Ennis also put his trust into Scott while they were in prison together this
00:41:57
in 2002. remember he told his girlfriend Leanne to trust Scott Scott was pretending that
00:42:06
he was going to help Steven escape from prison and that he was going to help get his
00:42:11
girlfriend to him in Mexico once Stephen had it escaped but once Scott gets out of prison
00:42:19
it appears that he seduced Leanne because the two went on the multi-state Czech overdraft spree
00:42:27
and then Leanne magically disappears is questionable if he seduced her for or if he got in contact with her and just
00:42:37
stole the information well she's very young I mean that's true he could have said look I'm gonna we're gonna kill you
00:42:43
I'm gonna kill your family if you don't cooperate so this is where they're like wait we we have a possible another
00:42:49
another victim here so they contact Leanne's father his name's Howard yeah but let's just be clear we got three
00:42:57
possible missing women connected to Scott and then a male his uncle right that's the count so far right
00:43:06
which his his uncle's story is a little less nefarious in the sense that it doesn't seem to be obvious that this
00:43:14
guy was missing remember he came up with the story of of uh yeah won the lottery and went to Mexico
00:43:21
it I would guess for detectives that it's only once they mention Uncle Terry's name to Scott in this interview
00:43:29
that he says oh I can probably help you on that case that they're they're now going wait a second there's probably
00:43:35
something here well the look when you say you won the lottery where do you win the lottery Ohio
00:43:42
good state they look up the records the state of Ohio never paid out Terry never paid out
00:43:50
Scott's Uncle so he didn't win they were able to find that out pretty quickly so
00:43:56
they know that that story is [ __ ] so when they contact this Leanne Emery's father Howard
00:44:04
the first thing he says to the FBI is like I've been trying to get the FBI's attention on this for years I I've told
00:44:11
them that someone using the name Hannibal was responsible for The Disappearance of
00:44:17
my daughter so then this is when we have Stephen Hawley he confirmed for detectives what
00:44:24
they are now suspecting that Hannibal was yet just another Alias for Scott Kimball right furthermore Stephen Hawley
00:44:32
told investigators that Hannibal asked him that once Holly escaped from prison to
00:44:38
this is this is just bizarre man he says that Scott Kimball using the name of Hannibal asked this other inmate once I
00:44:47
help you escape from prison and you're out I want you to torture and kill my second wife who is also the mother of
00:44:56
Scott's two boys right but when you do this I want her to know that I was the one
00:45:06
that sent you to kill her right so the evidence Captain is obviously piling up against Scott Kimball and pointing
00:45:17
out that he probably killed multiple people detectives dug in and looked into every
00:45:23
aspect of his life in addition to interviews with people detectives gathered the following pieces
00:45:29
of evidence this is a uh starts off with a search of Scots Toshiba laptop computer which
00:45:41
revealed the following a search of the term Jennifer Markham missing they also found pictures of various
00:45:50
women including Leanne Emery uh this picture of Leanne Emery is dated just 11 days before she disappeared they
00:46:00
found 291 graphic images and their statement says depicting women clothed and unclothed being assaulted
00:46:08
forced into violent sexual activities or raped bound and gagged um possibly some pictures of women posing
00:46:19
as being dead and then some of them threatened at gunpoint or knife point the search also discovered that Scott
00:46:27
had visited online rape video sites using the moniker beefman 1996. a search of Scott's former Adams County
00:46:39
Home investigators found blood stains in the living room carpet and carpet pad and floorboards
00:46:48
so they cut out all these samples and they're taking them collecting them and they sent them to the FBI lab for
00:46:55
analysis well it's good thing that the two fathers got together and started trying to put together the pieces of
00:47:02
this puzzle but now we don't just have hearsay or you know this guy went by Hannibal or somebody just saying you
00:47:12
know he said she said stuff we actually have now physical evidence against Scott
00:47:16
Kimball yeah and so they're looking at Scott's cell phone records and you talked about suspicions and what what
00:47:23
people are relaying to law enforcement but we're going to get a confirmation right here because as soon as they look
00:47:29
at his cell phone records They saw that yes in fact his phone did go offline from 8 15 p.m on August 23 2003 all the
00:47:39
way through 4 38 p.m on August 24th 2003. now it's during this two this 20 hour period that Casey MacLeod vanished
00:47:51
right Anna and Scott according to his statements he was alone in the mountains which we know is not a great Alibi right
00:48:02
so when the phone comes back online it pinged a tower near Walden Colorado in a search of some boxes of old documents
00:48:11
and receipts of Scots law enforcement discovered a receipt from North Park Super's grocery store in
00:48:18
Walden Colorado the receipt was for 17.95 showing that Scott purchased pasta meat spaghetti sauce and lighter fluid
00:48:30
okay so this is at the same time well he wanted to make his sauce a little spicy
00:48:38
this is at the same time when Casey MacLeod disappeared but also was supposedly picked up for work to go to
00:48:44
work by Scott and remember we know she never shows up for work at Subway that day right in fact there's no record of
00:48:52
anyone having seen her ever again after this and again Scott claims he was hunting alone in the mountains that day
00:48:59
and Walden is in the mountains sounds more like Scott was up there hunting for somewhere to dispose of Casey's body and
00:49:07
hunting for something to burn it with right and not to mention that before he was telling her mother Casey's mother
00:49:15
hey the neighbor saw her and and you know I picked her up and and all these little lies and they
00:49:24
come to find out those aren't true either yeah and remember the strange statement
00:49:30
from Scott where he told police in an interview that he said Casey OD'd on meth and died in a national forest well
00:49:39
Walden is surrounded by a national forest in a later search of the trailer the the
00:49:47
supposed stolen trailer Hidden by Scott investigators found Casey's Subway hat along with with that they found a black
00:49:57
bag containing six zip ties two rolls of electric tape and a pair of women's shoes
00:50:05
agent dressing called over to the authorities of Walden and they found out that a skull and
00:50:12
skeleton likely belonging to a young female was discovered by a hunter six months earlier in a remote area
00:50:21
Southwest of town after DNA testing it was confirmed that these were the remains of Casey MacLeod
00:50:29
unfortunately there was no way to tell the cause or manner of her death yeah but at least you have a body and we know
00:50:37
that it's harder to prosecute a murder case without a body and it's not terribly far off from where you know or
00:50:46
believe Scott was and it's not terribly far off from what his Alibi was I'm alone in the mountains this is in the
00:50:53
mountains right so it's looking very bad for Scott now investigators they also spoke with an inmate who knew
00:51:01
Scott this inmate has not been named publicly but this inmate told them that Scott said he had strangled Casey with a
00:51:10
dog collar and smashed her head in with a rock this because she was a witness against the leader of a powerful drug
00:51:18
gang but again Casey's cause of death could not be determined from her remains and her skull of course showed no signs
00:51:26
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