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around grab a chair grab a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] death is frequently imagined as a
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personified Force most most often personified in the male form in some mythologies a character known as the
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Grim Reaper causes the victim's death when coming to collect that person's soul in a short period of just 8 months
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someone was killing people on the streets of Little Rock Arkansas a monster perhaps between August of 20120 and
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April of 2021 four people were viciously cut and stabbed in the dark of the night three
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of the attacks proved fatal some have suggested that because the prey is nocturnal he hunts at
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night then I Ponder the opposite because he is nocturnal the monster hunts at night hiding in the shadows watching
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waiting for a vulnerable prey to cross his path captured on camera the monster appears to be l beast-like and more of
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that of a wraith a shadowy ghostlike image seen shortly before after the murder takes
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place his preferred method of death slashing and stabbing the victims their blood warms his blade and stains his
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clothing the victim falls to the ground and The Wraith this nocturnal monster moves into the
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darkness the the attack cools his anger and calms his hostile brain be it bayonet blade dagger sickle
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or sword he cleans his blade and hides his face he is a terrorist of the streets of Little
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Rock but this nocturnal monster this wraith did not go out into the night to collect a soul but rather to take a
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life this is true crime garage and this is the still unsolved case of the Little
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Rock [Music] slasher according to the police report an officer responded to a subject down
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call the call comes into emergency services just after 2: a.m. this is on Monday August 24th
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2020 officer Dillard from The Little Rock Police Department's 50502 district is the one responding and he is at the
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scene very quickly the location is 2200 South gain Street in the great city of Little Rock Arkansas now it's
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important to know that the offense or whatever it is that happened our officer does not know when he's arriving being
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on the scene but it's over with when he gets there the offense is completed as they say in police speak this means we
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have a subject down and if there is a suspect the suspect is nowhere to be found nothing is in progress the officer
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could tell it was too late actually it was too late for this victim when the call came in the victim was determined
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to be 64-year-old Larry mcchristian Larry mcchristian is DOA his address is 425 Marian County
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Road in Yellville Arkansas now this is about a two and a half hour drive from where his body is found by the
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responding police officer now I'm not going to lie Captain this address confuses me and the distance our victim
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is from his reported address which is a single family property that was last sold in
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2021 the distance between where his body is located after this call and where he
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is from his residence is a bit bizarre being it's a two and a half hour drive and this man appears to have been on
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foot Larry MC chrisen our victim who was attacked and found dead on arrival by Little Rock Arkansas police department
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when they respond on the scene if I'm law enforcement I want to know why he's in this area and why he's so far away
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from his residency our responding law enforcement officer categorizes this incident as an aggravated assault
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homicide with major injury and the suspect is unknown motive unknown the weapon used was determined to be a knife
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or a cutting instrument so we have multiple stab wounds here in this case the homicide and Christ CRI scen units
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were brought in immediately the palaski County coroner's office arrived and Mr christensen's body was taken to the
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Arkansas State Crime laboratory for an autopsy so unfortunately we have 64-year-old Larry Eugene MC Christensen
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he was found having been stabbed to death on the porch of a person that police said he did not know the call
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came in from someone passing by apparently MC Christensen was reported missing two days prior to this incident
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the circumstances of who reported him missing and why are not known but what is also unclear is the time of death
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here if MC Christensen if his whereabouts were unknown for approximately two days 48 Hours roughly
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where was he during this time period and for how long was he dead before the Little Rock Police Department responded
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to the call that came in that night well like you said first sign of bizaar is that his bodies found two hours away
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from his residence number two on the list of bizar he's found on a porch of somebody they don't believe he knew or
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was he attacked on the street or sidewalk and then attempts to go for help and then collapses on the porch
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yeah that's a good point the other indicator here too Captain it's not stated in the report and it's not stated
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online anywhere but it would seem to stand a reason that police identified the 911 caller because they do state
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that the person that called Emergency Services was a passer by so either somebody walking by that sees this man
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or hears this man in pain or driving by and Witnesses this situation but again what we don't have what is unclear
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there's there's a little bit that's been released from the autopsy and that is that this fact is a homicide one and two
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that the manner of death is the result of cutting and stab wounds from a knife or a cutting instrument now what is
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unclear is if they were able to determine a time of death because with that that two days that
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he's missing it's not completely out of the realm of possibility that he may have laid there for a period of time
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before Co even came in right definitely another thing that you have to add to the bizarre list is what was his
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activities and what was his timeline in those two days that he was basically missing and I'm going to throw this out
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there this is I would put this more in the rumor category rather than fact so take it for a grain of salt but it is it
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has been stated that he may have been missing from an uh a home but the but again the address that I traced him to
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was listed as a single f family home so I don't know if this is a Silver Alert situation you know where we have a a
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person that's up there in years and they go wondering off um again the the details of his disappearance is unclear
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well and you can keep your residency and then be placed into a home so it's possible that you know but again there
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there there's already a pile that's developing of just bizarre things in this case well and spoiler alert you can
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tell from from today's trailer and the title of these episodes that we are talking about a Serial offender and one
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thing that we are going to find consistent throughout this timeline and throughout
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these attacks is one thing working in the favor sadly working in the favor of this
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serial offender is there are a lot of blank spots in the information that not just came out but I would believe
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information available in details about these crimes available to the persons investigating these
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crimes now Little Rock Police Department they would have better information on these details the the ones that we've
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just stated that we find to be bizarre confusing so maybe they've been in able to fill in some of these blanks but more
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importantly lrpd they do catch a little bit of a break here in this investigation this is when they discover
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portions of the attack on Mr Christensen that were caught on security cameras belonging to the homeowners in
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this general area where MC Christensen was found so this is going to help them with a couple of things this will help
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them determine time of death this will help them to determine the time of the attack
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we get the information we get is what time the call came in what time the officer responded on the scene and then
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later we get a public warning from Little Rock Police Department that states that these attacks this series of
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attacks all occurred during this time window you know from from this hour to this hour on these different dates well
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obviously this is one of the things that technology is doing to really help law enforcement but what do you think law
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enforcement learns by capturing this murderer on surveillance this is something that I absolutely love here
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captain we're talking about keeping everybody safe right and also detecting and figuring out who the perpetrator is
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of these horrific and violent crimes and in this case a homicide you know we talk
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so much about the advancements in technology and how that's working out for the good guy and not in the favor of
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the bad guys with DNA and things like that genealogy detection work that's great but where we're also
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seeing a big benefit you know just another couple of tools to put in your Batman utility belt here to fight off
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the bad guys is these ring doorbell cameras uh companies like simply safe and ADT that are putting surveillance
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cameras on residences and businesses and then of course the smartphones the advancements in cell phones so these are
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also things that are overlooked when people talk so much about DNA and genealogy detection work these cell
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phones and home security cameras are solving a lot of crimes maybe even more than DNA is in the current day so here
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in this situation the footage captured images of the actual attacker so you could see
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the attacker heading toward gain street but then he we will later find out that this is a male attacker then later he
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stops he stabs MC Christensen then the attacker takes off and it's described as he's walking away now to me there's
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always something so much more frightening when the description is or the video shows the attacker SL killer
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just calmly walking away from the victim to me that's a special kind of evil but
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here that's not it because no the attacker then stops you would think he's calmly
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walking away fleeing the scene no he stops and decides to turn around he returns to the victim and stabs him
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again and then once again turns and walks away so I guess the killer was for a lack of better term yeah he's
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double-checking his work making sure that the victim was dead before leaving the scene of this Bizarro attack or if
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you want to think of it in more of a sadistic term I mean maybe he just wanted the Feeling Again I mean he he
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leaves so calmly it's again a pile of bizarre after all of the security camera footage leads after all of those if they
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provided any leads at all after they dried up this case starts to get a little chilly for the investigators now
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we have days and then weeks that go by without an arrest police really don't seem to have much to go on here in this
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case people friends and neighbors of MC Christian put together a reward for anyone who can provide information
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leading to an arrest so they collect and put together a $10,000 reward for their
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friend hoping to drum up some tips that may lead to the suspect and and make an arrest in this in this what seems to be
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a totally random stabbing cutting attack in the middle of the night it looks like
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in this situation even with that reward money that we may still be waiting on the right tip to come in but things in
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the great city of Little Rock go from bad to worse it was just thir 30 days later captain or 30 nights later I
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should say this is when the Little Rock Police Department they're responding to a subject down call the call comes in at
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2:57 a.m. this is this time it's Little Rock Police Department's 54th District responding they're on location about 2
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minutes after the Call Comes in so roughly a two-minute response time very good response time we have a male victim
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who is down there's been some kind of violent knife attack the suspect is gone when police arve heck the suspect was
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gone when the person calling it in arrived and found the victim already down so this location is the 4200 block
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of West 12th Street in Little Rock Police at the scene they're at the scene very quickly because this violent attack
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takes place just two blocks from the Little Rock Police Department's West 12th Street substation so either the
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killer a does not care that there's a strong police presence in the area or B does not know when they arrive they
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being police they quickly make contact with the person who called 911 and this time the 911 caller is
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identified to the public this is Mr tager Jr it sounds like Mr tager is houseless longtime listeners of the show
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will get that one tager was looking for a place to get out of the stormy weather
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this was a particularly wet period for Little Rock there are lots of rain in the month of
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September 2020 for Little Rock So Mr taggert's trying to find a place to give himself a little bit of shelter he is
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going to a location where he believes his friend would be now when he arrives at this location and finds his friend
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who he knows only by a nickname his friend that he finds goes by the name old school so he finds old school down
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and old school's not breathing he's lying on a front porch or what is being described as the front porch with
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obvious visible signs of of trauma the victim old school has various puncture wounds on his neck of course the
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homicide unit is called in immediately after police get to the scene and see what's going on and talk with Mr tager
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the 911 caller but he just finds his friend he doesn't see the attack go down correct he does not see the attack he
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doesn't see anybody fleeing the scene again it sounds like we have a situation where this attack went down and un
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fortunately this this man old school may have been lying there for a period of time before anybody found him and he's
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discovered by his friend after the autopsy is conducted the medical examiner conclusively R rules the death
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a homicide and later fingerprints would identify our victim old school remember Mr tagert does not know his friend's
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real name the fingerprints will identify fire our victim old school as that of 62-year-old Jeff Welch now oddly enough
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even though we're given the description that old school Jeff Welch is found down
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unresponsive not breathing on the front porch Little Rock Police Department have
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no address that's listed for Mr Jeff Welch so it's possibly not his front porch yes and based off of some of the
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other reports I have read Welch may have been houseless just like his friend who
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found him it's very sad very sad so to call it a front porch could mean it this could be an abandoned house or abandoned
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building it also could just be some type of overhang or some type of shelter that
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they're going under and it's just misreported as a front porch now we do know the area where this took place the
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4200 block of West 12th Street we don't have an exact address which makes it a little bit difficult but this is a very
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populated area of the city there's lots of houses and and single family homes in
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this area so it would stand to reason that this is either a house that's not being occupied or an apartment that is
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not being occupied in this area of the city but we have no other eyewitnesses that saw the attack or saw
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anybody coming or going from the crime scene exactly and one thing I do want to really in on while we're talking about
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location here and where our victim is found and where uh his friend is going to find because his friend says that he
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goes I was seeking shelter I was going to where I knew my friend was he would he would let me
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stay either with him or you know in the area with him so that I wouldn't have to
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sleep in the rain tonight one key thing that I think is of interest to or should
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be of interest to the investigators is remember no addresses listed for the victim Jeff Welch and no addresses
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listed for his friend Mr tagger and police would know this from talking with Mr tagger but this is not
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something that I've seen in any of the reports but I suspect may be the situation I believe that there's a good
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chance if Mr tager knew where to find his friend old school who he he didn't even know his real name but he knew
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where to find him so it would stand a reason that Jeff Welch AKA old school may have been known to use this location
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as shelter or was was staying there overnight on a regular basis in in this spot where he is found dead and using as
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it as shelter yeah basically what you're saying is that this leans towards the idea that this wasn't just random it
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could totally be random the the attacker could just be passing by and spots this
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guy and decides to attack him but also if this guy was known to be there which we we can we can deduce that immediately
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from his friend statement going I went to this location because I knew my friend would be there it's just like
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when you see unfortunately you see somebody who's sleeping under an overpass or sleeping in a tent on on in
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a park somewhere and you know that they are always there they are there night after night until the police kick them
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out or tell them to move along or or what have you but you do see this and we do know that the victim's friend
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believed he would find his friend in this location so that makes me wonder because what we're going to be told
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later by police is that these seem to be completely random attacks I'm not going to argue
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that but I'm pointing out this to me is a breadcrumb that this this particular attack may not be so random and the
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other crazy thing here too Captain is we talked so right we talked already about
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the passage of time when we gave the dates of these two attacks the the dates between these two very similar blade
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attacks resulting both resulting in homicides they're just 30 nights apart so scary close in time scary close in
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distance as well just 3.1 miles walking the streets between where these two murders take place and even closer as
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Captain cheers to everybody out there especially the people in the back you know I have have much love for the
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people in the back after Jeff Welch was attacked and killed for a period of time
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here Captain we don't see anymore or at least we don't have anything reported that would say hey these two
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similar attacks they they keep seeming to take place right but unfortunately that would not stay that way for
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good this brings us to the New Year in our timeline it's now 2021 and let's not all forget how much 20120 sucked and we
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were all looking forward to the new year of 20 20 21 yeah sucked eggs so 2021 was
00:31:01
going to be the year that we came out of Co and we're going to come out of this thing with our heads held high in Little
00:31:08
Rock And as far as this case is concerned maybe people were starting to become a little less
00:31:13
fearful about the knife attacks that were in the news and the murders that we just
00:31:19
discussed but you have to wonder about the people that walked in the same or similar circles to that of our last
00:31:28
victim right a a person experiencing homelessness what were they saying what were they hearing at the time you know
00:31:37
rumors happen in these circles whatever that would be most likely either changed
00:31:43
or was ramped up in the month of April 2021 because this is when we have 43-year-old Deborah Walker she's
00:31:53
attacked at 1906 South plasy Street this time police are responding to what they're calling a cutting in progress
00:32:03
call that comes in at 3:33 a.m. once again we have Little Rock Police Department District 52 responding
00:32:13
to the call and responding very quickly they find the victim down and again they
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find no suspect in sight Miss Walker was stabbed 15 times and left to bleed out Jesus but she is alive when they find
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her so she is able to communicate with the officers and tell them what happened to her or at least we'll tell them at
00:32:38
some point she says that she was walking at the intersection of 19th and Marshall
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when a black male approached her she stated that he started stabbing her with a knife she said the attacker left very
00:32:54
quickly but he traveled in an unknown Direction unknown to her victim she was able to walk to where she was found so
00:33:02
we should note something here for the listeners Captain this spot where she's found by the officers this is about two
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and a half blocks away so the address to which the officers respond to and where
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they find Miss Walker is two and a half blocks from where the attack actually took place right so she's attacked and
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stabbed and manages to make it all of this way do we have the reason why she was walking this early in the morning
00:33:34
well there there's some concerns about the victimology here in this case and I I think that that when we look at some
00:33:44
of the problems with the investigation it's my belief that the problems with the investigation may not
00:33:54
be may not solely rest on on the shoulders of our great women and men in law enforcement I think that the
00:34:03
lifestyle of some of our victims and I'm not victim blaming here well it sounds like it well but the lifestyle of our
00:34:10
victims and I will I I will come and be their Champion here later uh in our coverage of this case I promise you but
00:34:18
well we look forward to you patting yourself on the back we we see this time and time again in cases like this where
00:34:27
uh where we have this type of victim sometimes they are either up to no good themselves on a much a much much
00:34:37
smaller scale of course than these homicides and these knife attacks that we're talking about but or they've had
00:34:44
bad experiences with law enforcement and they're not so forthcoming with everything she could have simply been
00:34:50
out wandering the streets that night we need to point out here too unfortunately with our latest victim
00:34:58
with Miss Walker God bless she survived but she too is listed as having no address I think what you're trying to
00:35:08
say as far as victimology too is like well one the first victim we don't know why he was so far from his house mhm and
00:35:18
is it possible that he was out that late at night looking for shelter looking for
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a place to stay again our second victim same scenario is he out late at night looking for a place to take cover third
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victim is she out there late at night looking for a place to take cover you know that those early hours of the
00:35:45
morning it's not a not a safe time to be out especially not when there's somebody
00:35:52
basically hunting during that time right not with this monster on the loose and hunting in the area and it's reported
00:36:00
that these attacks all of the ones that we are going to discuss here today according to Little Rock Police
00:36:08
Department they all took place in what they would refer to as the most dangerous area of the city and I think
00:36:16
that there are some things that are confusing about the details of this attack in particular but in all fairness
00:36:24
the report states that Mrs Walker Miss Walker was awake when police arrived but very hard to understand and they even
00:36:35
put in the report that she would not answer the officer's questions now that could be
00:36:42
she could not due to the nature of her injuries or was unwilling to for some unknown reason we see this again we see
00:36:52
this a lot in some of these types of cases and we can get into that more when we take a look at the victimology here
00:36:59
in this case Miss Walker is quickly transported to the hospital and thankfully the Medics are able to save
00:37:08
her life I'm stating it that way because often these medical personnel especially
00:37:13
the ones responding to calls and out in the streets they just don't get enough credit so here they will get some
00:37:21
regardless of the conflicting reports that come out about this particular attack and what are those conflicting
00:37:28
reports you ask well it's the discrepancy in the severity of the wounds to Miss Walker about half of the
00:37:37
reports out there state that she was stabbed or cut 15 times others State more than 15 times and left to bleed out
00:37:44
while other reports State multiple stab and cut wounds but the wounds were not life-threatening at all I guess maybe
00:37:53
both could be true on on many levels uh depending on perspective but regardless of the severity of her wounds we have
00:38:02
two great things that happen here right first and foremost Deborah Walker survives right secondly she is able to
00:38:13
provide Little Rock Police Department with a description of the attack and of the perpetrator as well two things that
00:38:22
we did not have in the first two homicides yes we got lucky and we caught a little bit of surveillance footage in
00:38:30
the first one but here we have firsthand a firstand knowledge somebody that can tell us what happened how the
00:38:37
attack went down and what the attacker looked like in maybe even what he acted like well and what this is also going to
00:38:46
be good for too is we have these three attacks and because we do have some surveillance footage based on what she
00:38:55
tells us we're going to be able to look at that footage and go is this the same killer right right because where at
00:39:03
first you may have given the proximity of time and proximity of location in the first two attacks and the similar nature
00:39:11
of the attack itself and the weapon used and the result of those attacks you can
00:39:17
have this speculation and these suspicions amongst law enforcement that maybe these two attacks were committed
00:39:23
by the same perpetrator or perpetrators but now you have confirmation right you you have maybe
00:39:34
not 100% but you have her describing an attack that that plays out very similar to what they
00:39:43
saw on that surveillance camera footage on the security camera footage and then you have the attack in the middle that
00:39:51
unfortunately resulted in a homicide and it's all this same wounds it's it's same
00:39:58
nature same same death instrument is used essentially in in that attack as well well what are some of those details
00:40:06
of her account right captain of course the the thing that helps so much right we have her description but one thing
00:40:14
that helps so much in Deborah Walker's case is that someone called this in very quickly while she's still awake she's
00:40:25
still conscious right and then we have the added factor that Little Rock Police Department is able to respond to this
00:40:32
call very quickly once again and here is what what we get Deborah Walker was quickly located by law enforcement and
00:40:39
medical technicians Walker was rushed by ambulance to the UAM Medical Center at the hospital she managed to survive her
00:40:49
injuries as we said during questioning Miss Walker said that she was walking in the area of 19th and Marshall streets
00:40:57
when she was approached by a stranger so somebody she does not know who pulled out a knife and stabbed her without
00:41:04
provocation according to her description the attacker appeared to be a young black male with a slender build and
00:41:12
standing over six feet tall this is the third attack believed to be the third attack in the series and
00:41:20
it happened on April 11 which is over six months from the believed to be connected second attack so so much more
00:41:31
time has elapsed between attack two and three right so attack one to two is roughly a 30-day window and from Attack
00:41:41
two to three is a six month mons yeah and what what we have here too is this location of the third attack so the
00:41:50
location of attack number three is 19th in Marshall so this is less than 2 and 1/2 miles from the previous
00:42:00
attack so it's really starting to look like someone has a comfort zone well and here's what's crazy is what we do know
00:42:08
from the surveillance footage and her account is this guy has a slender build okay check check and he's above six foot
00:42:18
tall check check it's most likely the same dude yep and given the description that she provides dress
00:42:26
very similarly to what they saw on the security camera footage from the first attack now one thing that's of interest
00:42:35
to me here captain and people might think that this is a little strange but hear me out for a
00:42:43
second we go from one month between the first two attacks to then six months from Attack two to three right is this
00:42:53
something as weird as a it's a war warm weather thing right or or are these attacks
00:43:01
simply triggered uncontrollably and it's just happen stance that it's taking place in the warmer months in Little
00:43:09
Rock Arkansas September would be a warmer month in April things are starting to heat up again we're coming
00:43:15
out of the winter time is this something I I I know there's people out there asking a warm weather thing what are you
00:43:22
talking about but we are discussing attacks that as far as the police are telling us every attack murder that they
00:43:30
have linked together took place outside out in the streets of Little Rock is this individual and we see this in in a
00:43:40
lot of Serial cases a lot of times we are talking about an offender who is attacking and killing people that run in
00:43:49
similar circles while the victim may be unknown to the perpetrator before the attack and while the attacker may be
00:43:58
unknown to the victims a lot of times they're attacking people and killing people that are
00:44:07
amongst their same walks of life so is this person a street person themselves right or is it simply that this person
00:44:17
is not experiencing homelessness is not houseless as we like to joke here in the garage and there not
00:44:26
they're they're not going out and deciding to hunt on the streets until it's comfortable for them they don't
00:44:34
want to do it in the cold months if we're law enforcement also what can we deduce from this security footage we see
00:44:42
no vehicle we have no eyewitnesses that se sees this murderer without a vehicle or with a vehicle so it makes you wonder
00:44:51
is this guy going around and hunting this area area on foot and it would be much more
00:44:58
comfortable to do that in the warmer months of the year yeah or do they even have a license how old is this
00:45:06
individual we're we're not very certain about that this is difficult for me how old this individual is because we do
00:45:14
have our victim Miss Walker who survives and she does describe her attacker as appearing to be a young African-American
00:45:26
male slender and build standing over 6 feet tall and when I look at the images that have been put out from law
00:45:36
enforcement about the first attack I'm seeing the same thing as as what she is describing yeah when I see that that
00:45:44
footage if I had to guess I'd be guessing that this killer is under the age of 30 okay Captain this is going to
00:45:52
lead us very very quickly unfortunately into to attack number four this takes place the next day or the next night
00:46:02
however you want to phrase it again the second attack happened one month from the first six months from Attack number
00:46:09
two to three and then 27 hours from Attack number three to number four right so the next day
00:46:19
after Miss Walker survives the attack by our serial offender our serial killer the next day officers were called
00:46:29
out at 6:30 a.m. this is to 2710 right Avenue there they find 40-year-old Marlon
00:46:40
Franklin and it's reported by police that he is suffering from serious injuries unfortunately Marlon Franklin
00:46:49
was pronounced dead at the scene by medical personnel it's unclear to me his exact State when they found him he
00:46:59
may have unfortunately already passed by the time police arrived on scene right we don't get those details what we do
00:47:07
what we can what we can report based off of the reports we're seeing is that if he was still alive clinging to life when
00:47:16
the officers arrived on the scene he was not able to tell them anything or provide any information as far as who
00:47:25
attacked him yeah I'm if I'm a detective working these cases isn't the first thing that goes
00:47:31
through your mind that he knows this that this this murderer knows what's going on he's following this and if he
00:47:39
finds out that his third victim didn't die that's almost like well I got it doesn't count unless I actually kill
00:47:48
somebody so I need to go back out go hunting again and as horrific as that is I'm glad glad you said that because I
00:47:57
suspect and I believe that a lot of people suspect that that is exactly what we have here well let me just tell you
00:48:03
the days of me holding back are they're over so I'm not worried about everybody's feelings about everything
00:48:12
like this is a sick son of a [ __ ] and you know this as much as I do this guy needs to be caught you know this guy we
00:48:21
need to take this serious you know because think about think about how crazy of an individual that has to be to
00:48:29
go well I attacked this lady whether he knew her name or not follows up in the paper or on
00:48:37
TV probably only gets so much information so then has to go around the neighborhood to get some more
00:48:43
information what are the local Rumblings what are the rumors oh she's going to live I got to go back out tonight I mean
00:48:52
that is that's a scary individual well and you say if he's following the case you know if he's living in a house
00:49:01
somewhere following the case in the newspaper watching the news then yes he's following the case we could also
00:49:08
have a situation where he is homeless himself right and hears the the word on the street right right or we
00:49:19
do know that the victim in the third attack was able to flee the scene themselves does deefly the scene turn
00:49:26
around and realize oh she she was in much better shape than I expected right when I left regardless of how that goes
00:49:35
down we just kind of count our blessings that Deborah Walker survived now back to
00:49:40
this fourth attack here this was a subject down call as well we have Little Rock Police Department's District 53
00:49:48
responding to this call officer Henderson on the scene within just one minute of the call coming into to
00:49:55
emergency Services Jesus again this shares similarities to all of the previous attacks the victim is down when
00:50:02
the officer arrives there's no suspect in sight the victim is suffering from serious injuries and then quickly
00:50:10
pronounced dead Marlon Franklin is listed as having no known address and it's stated that he is homeless in the
00:50:20
report we talked about a comfort zone for this attacker for this murderer this address is just one mile from the
00:50:31
previous night's attack of Deborah Walker if you look this up on on on the map of Little Rock it's literally down
00:50:39
the street from where Miss Walker was attacked 27 hours prior to the call coming in about Marlin Franklin being
00:50:49
dead or dying there in front of this address now I do not believe that race has any real
00:50:59
significance to the slasher motives however I do believe that there's a chance that it could play a
00:51:07
part in how you could identify the killer how we could identify who's responsible for these
00:51:15
attacks so having said that some things that are different in our victimology here is the first two victims attacked
00:51:22
and killed successfully by the slasher were both older white men both in their 60s the third attack again
00:51:33
unsuccessful thankfully Miss Walker survived we have a white female in her 40s the fourth attack Mr Marlin Franklin
00:51:42
he unfortunately does not survive Franklin is an African-American male listed at 40 years of
00:51:54
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