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thanks for listening we're doing things a little bit different this week as you all might have expected we were all
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waiting holding our breath since last Friday morning because there was news that there was an arrest in the deli
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double homicide case and they were going to have a press conference today which is Monday morning and they did hold that
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press conference the captain watched it I watched it we watched it at separate locations I'm currently in a hotel in
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the Greater Cleveland area hoping that the Browns will have a win tonight at Cleveland Browns Stadium on Halloween
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night I'm looking for all the ghouls and ghosts to come out to help the Browns pull off the the imposs possible and get
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a victory but we're not here to talk about that more importantly we are here to talk about today is the day Friday
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was the day as Doug Carter just told us literally about 30 minutes ago and so the captain and I are here to give an
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update in the deli case and give a little bit of our perspective as we have it based off of what we've seen and
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heard well like the colonel said he's in a hotel motel Holiday In the colonel is
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currently working on a Case up in Cleveland I'm overseas working on a case as well more on that later just to go
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through my day a little bit on Friday a little bit of a time difference when you're over in in England but it's
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probably 900 a.m. your time that I got a text message saying news coming out on Deli I asked when and what got no reply
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and I thought well maybe it's just going to be another we're asking for more information or is this the day then I
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get followed up with another text message saying big information coming out two seconds later I get one they
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made an arrest they arrested a man on Friday at noon and charged him with two counts of
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murder now that wasn't conf confirmed by anybody but that's what my sources were
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telling me and then it was I hope this is true because I've heard a lot of rumors from different sources and I was
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so glad to find out that that was true and that obviously that was confirmed in this press conference yeah that's what
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sets this aside from all of the other suspects that have been speculated about in the past five and a half years is
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that he is actually arrested and being charged with double homicide and with the murders of liby and Abbey so it's
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this is as case specific as it gets where other individuals have been arrested on crimes unrelated or or what
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some were trying to piece together and make leaps and and and hopes of okay perpetrator of this crime might have
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also been the perpetrator of the deli homicides so this is the biggest news to come out in this case and 5 and a half
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years you said noon on Friday yeah I was you know I was getting some stuff around
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9 in the 9:00 hour Friday morning from some different people I'm kind of piecing some things together and and I
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I'll speak candidly but I also want to make sure that everyone knows that some of the things that I'm going to say here
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today in in reaction to this arrest is not a concrete information but some some information that I've heard from what I
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deem to be and believe to be some pretty legit sources but again not 100% concrete so arrested at noon it's a
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little wonky on the actual timeline of this guy it sounds like this Richard Allen was may have been formally charged
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at that time on Friday the other pieces of information that I was have been told
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is that that he may have actually been detained at some point earlier in the week right what was coming out on Friday
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was that he was moved to a state facility to for his own safety which which couple things here that you think
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about like I know everybody enjoyed the dramatization of the dmer story that was
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big on Netflix everybody tuned into that I I thought the portrayal of dmer being
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murdered was a little was a little off it it seems to be pretty much factual as they present it but I've reviewed
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interviews with the guy that killed dmer and and at least on one occasion I believe in two different interviews by
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different people he actually said that he did part of part of the reason for the murder for him to killed Jeffrey
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dmer was for the notoriety Jeffrey dmer was the most famous person in that prison and if you killed the most famous
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person in that prison boom you become the most famous or inFAMOUS person in that prison and so with this Richard
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Allen age 50 of Deli Indiana local guy he's arrested and they say that he's being moved to a state facility for his
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own protection or his own personal safety that tells me we're probably thinking about one of of three things
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that of level of concern that you would have if you are in Corrections and if you are charged with apprehending this
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guy and keeping him in custody you know part of your job is to keep him safe so that he can face a trial he could be on
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suicide watch uh they could be concerned that uh another uh person in the jail uh that's being detained as well
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might want to harm him for any number of reasons if not kill him or and this is going to sound wild too but you'll
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understand it because the the level of this case is is through the roof and the emotions involved in this case through
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the roof right you could even be talking about worried that maybe a deputy or somebody working at the facility that he
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once was at might want to go after this guy for any number of reasons well let's
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just go through a breakdown real quick of the press conference it was very short of course they opened it up for
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questions at the end and knowingly they're going to ask a lot of questions that law enforcement can't answer but
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what they confirmed is Richard Allen aged 5050 is charged with two counts of murder that's in the state of Indiana
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they do have the have the death penalty so that would be on the table possibly they also wanted to remind everybody
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that Richard Allen is innocent until proven guilty and they have sealed all the probable cause and basically the
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arrest information and the tips that lead to that information I think they possibly did that for maybe a safety of
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an individual they didn't lead to any speculation on if they thought somebody else was involved or if Richard Allen
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was singly responsible for the murders but they also wanted to let us know that they're going to continue to take tips
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on Richard Allen anything about the crime or any other individual I think people are going to jump to speculation
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that there's more people involved D and I think that's okay because I think law enforcement is welcoming any tips to
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come in I think that's smart on their part to keep the tip line open but to lesen beby also said now we move forward
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in the process what me and the colonel were saying off record is this is a step in the right direction to get Justice
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for the family and the victims you need to not only make an arrest and charge the individual
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but you need to have him found guilty in a court of law right and we've talked about this on our show many times that
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when you speak with a really good seasoned detective one that's been at the job on the job for a long time and
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had success clearing cases in their time in their career they will all tell you the same thing and and this is this is
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the first thing that I can tell separates a good detective we always we talk about it there's good there are
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people that are good at their jobs and people that are bad at their jobs and unfortunately they are in every line of
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work across this great country you know there's good doctors there's bad doctors
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there's good school bus drivers bad school bus drivers there's everybody and same with detectives but the first thing
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that that separates the good ones from the from the not so great ones to me is this statement right here all of the
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good ones say the same thing when you are investigating a case the number one thing you need to be concerned about is
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will that my actions as a detective on this case do not change the potential outcome in this case meaning that my
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actions will not screw up any of the legalities or any of the stuff that's going to have to go through the courts
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to get a conviction here and so what what the prosecutor and what doug Carter the superintendent for the Indiana State
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Police and to lesen be the sheriff of Carol County what they are reminding all of us is that look yes we have a lot
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more information here are we going to give it to you today no we are working to secure a conviction here in this case
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and make sure that nothing gets tossed out of court because we made a misstep somewhere along the line this guy as the
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captain rightfully pointed out Richard Allen is presumed innocent until he's found guilty in a court of law some some
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interesting notes though here and some things that I think people might want to speculate about Richard Allen very
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common name his name his full name is Richard Matthew Allen he's age 50 like the captain said from Deli Indiana local
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guy we we are aware of his address a lot of people are interested in what his address is I don't think that it would
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be responsible for us to give that out if if somebody wants that on their conscience fine you can find it we're
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choosing not to give it out because of a couple of reasons we don't know what led
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police to Richard Allen that was not made clear they didn't discuss that during the press conference they gave a
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polite answer a couple times when when reporters were trying to get into what led them to this individual it seems
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very likely given his proximity where his residence is to the moanin High Bridge he lives about 1.6 miles from the
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crime scene so it would seem that he was likely interviewed or somebody close to
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him was interviewed probably early on in this investigative process I don't think
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it's a great idea to release his his address for a couple reasons we don't know who else may be still at that
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address and they very likely they may not have any anything to do with this crime at all not only that they may be
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the person responsible for turning him in or a neighbor could be somebody that helped investigators or detectives with
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this investigation so we don't want to put anybody into scrutiny or potential Harm's Way because they could be one of
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us they could be one of the good guys and speaking of the good guys interestingly enough let's not forget
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there's a huge reward in this case so at some point I guessing they're going to have to announce to the public or how
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they're going to allocate those funds and who they're going to go to and and and why they would be receiving them
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yeah a couple things about Richard that we have learned is that he worked at CVS
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like the colonel said about a mile and a half so maybe a 15 to 20 minute walk from the crime scene there's been a lot
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of pictures of this individual shared online I would say just off the top of my head when I see pictures of this
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individual and you see his height I've also seen videos of how he walks his gate looks very similar to bridge guy
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matches the description pretty much to a te again lived in the vicinity it's not
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clear to me but it seems and again this is just some speculation and some of this information that we're talking
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about we like to confirm our information before we put it out to the public but what I'm hearing from everybody and what
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I can somewhat confirm is that he is married and then there's been other pictures of him shared where he's at a
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party and in the background you see a sketch of young Bridge guy but anybody that's been to Deli would know that
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those pictures are everywhere so this guy Richard Allen living in this Community for the last however many
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years he's been there but since they started putting up these posters he's been walking by hundreds of these
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posters every single day a lot of people have shared pictures of Richard Allen With Us online other people have asked
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us to share those pictures you have to remember that the family back in the day and law enforcement asked to stop
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sharing side by sides I know this is a little different because he's not charged with some other crime and people
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are seeing that if he's linked that he is charged with the murders of Abby and Libby we're going to respect law
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enforcement's wishes and respect the family's wishes and not share those photos on social media yeah and like
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just like with the address it's information that if you want to dig deep enough it's not hard to find a picture
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of this individual it's just not not going to be part of our uh coverage for now on on the case and I
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want to say not that I think that the family is listening but if they were listening we met them a long time ago at
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crime con this case has been very personal to us we covered this case it was the probably the first case that we
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ever covered that we really knew little to no information but felt that it was very important to try to use our
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platform to get people talking about this case and sharing information and this case especially
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because of the internet they've received thousands of tips because of people working hard to try to solve a case
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because people felt connected to this case and one of the reasons I think we all felt connected to this case is
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because of the family the family you could see the pain on their faces and they still have a long way to go in this
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process but you know our thoughts are with them them and we have a lot of respect for the family and what they're
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going through and please be very supportive of them online as well look this arrest does not make
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things any easier for the family and what they're dealing with it's certainly a step in the right direction of course
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but this isn't like Little Red Riding Hood when the who is it The Woodsman gets the wolf and and and kills the wolf
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and cuts him open in little red writing the little girl comes back that's that's
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how it works in fairy tales I wish that that's how it worked here I I wish that that was even a possibility yes just
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take it easy on the families and don't bombard them for information they may not have much more information than we
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have they certainly ain't going to talk even if they do because they're they are
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lock in step with with ISP with the prosecutor's office with Carol County Sheriff's Department they want to secure
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a conviction and make sure that all the t's are crossed and all the eyes are dotted properly and that we don't we
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don't do anything to screw this up now I talked about some things that I think people might speculate about maybe we
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can address a couple of those again we don't have definitive answers on some of these but um wanted to address some
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things at the early part of the press conference it was stated that Indiana State Police was there the Carrol County
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Sheriff's Office was present and the prosecutor's office and and as we saw we had the prosecutor to lesen be the
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sheriff and Doug Carter the superintendent all spoke at the press conference one other agency that was
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there was the US Marshals I to me that doesn't indicate that they are still actively looking for somebody or
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actively looking for somebody in another state I would expect the US Marshals to
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be there and to have been a part of this investigation keep in mind within days of the double homicide there were
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digital Billboards in 46 States in this great country looking for this man and looking for the perpetrator of this
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these crimes so they have been involved from Jump Street so it would be it would
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be more weird if they weren't there in my opinion I do love that they are still encouraging more tips to come in and
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they are recommending using the same avenues that they've already set up that people have been using previously to
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continue um that remember they would prefer to receive an email tip tip in the form of an email that way there is
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written record of your tip and of the information that you submit as the captain pointed out the probable cause
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affidavit will be sealed the charging information will be sealed as well now one thing that I heard at the end of the
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presid press conference when they went to reporters for questions was one reporter said that the the proper cause
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affidavit and the charging information would be sealed for 30 days right and the prosecutor's answer did not shoot
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that down that it was 30 days but he did state that there would be a public forum
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a public meeting at some point to discuss and determine if they will be sealing those documents
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further or if they going to unseal them so I didn't pick up on a date of when that will be decided I'm guessing it's
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30 days from October 28th and not to try to correct you or anything but I believe
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he said there would actually be a hearing on that right a hearing is what I meant to say um but what I'm saying is
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I don't think he gave a date for when that public hearing would be you're correct some other information here the
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trial date he he stated and I I wrote this down rather quickly I hope I have it right would be is currently scheduled
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for March 20th 2023 remember the reward money was I 225,000 or in that General amount and I'm sure we'll find
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out more about what's going to be done with that reward money um they were specifically asked about the clients how
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do the clients fit into all this uh if they do at all they said they would not comment on the clients at this time uh
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one thing that I was not able to do here Captain it it may not have come out we were hitting record short very shortly
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after the press conference ended and they stated that there would be written information that would be on the I
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believe they said the Indiana State police's Facebook page and I went looking for that shortly after the press
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conference ended and either couldn't find it or it had not been posted at the time before we hit record a lot more
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discussion about the deli murder press conference after this quick beer [Music] break
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hotel motel holiday in both the colonel and the captain were both traveling we're on separate sides of the the world
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but we we felt obligated to share with you the information of this press conference and to share our
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thoughts on it as well yes and one thing too um that that we won't really get into but while we have the opportunity
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to address another uh case and some of you have been keeping an eye on this and know that Nancy eagleson who we
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discussed we did a four-part story on her case earlier this year and we were raising money porch light was raising
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money to exume her body she was uh unfortunately abducted and killed 62 years ago that exhumation happened last
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week and it was I've been asked to to keep everything very brief on the update because there should be some more
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information coming out either this week or next week but overall the opinion is and that we are after the exclamation
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took place we are all still very hopeful and have reason to be hopeful that we could find some evidence that could
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finally lead to solving her Cold Case homicide so obviously we saw a lot of different individuals of law enforcement
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talk Doug Carter has been the main spokesperson you could you obviously could hear and see the emotion in him
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and I think it was also nice cuz they weren't sitting there patting themselves on the back they're being very
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respectful to the process I think respectful to the family and to the public again they're going to get
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criticism because it took 5 years but like you just said there's there's a case that we
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covered that's been unsolved for 60 plus years yeah and so the fact that we could
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get a result in this case is is a great thing and I'm very hopeful that they'll be able to do and be respectful of the
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work again trying to seal off those records because they think that could hurt their case is is very smart and
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doing their due diligence and we live in a day where there's a lot of people that
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do jobs and don't do them well and I do want to applaud them a little bit because I want to say these guys as much
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much as you think that you're invested in this case and I know that the colonel and and I have spent hours and hours on
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the phone with people receiving tips ourselves through our blog or through our emails and spending hours to explain
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to those people you sharing the tip with me only does so much you need to share this tip with law enforcement and I
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probably spent hundreds of hours on Deli alone just replying to people saying information seems important and you need
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to share it with the right sources sharing that with a podcast host is not going to get an an arrest yeah if if you
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have some information and you've already approached law enforcement and it doesn't just go for Deli because we we
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experience this with a lot of Unsolved cases not all of them but some we do get tipsters come to us with information
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local people sometimes it's it it seems very interesting other times not going to lie there's you know you're going to
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get a few crazy things sent your your way once in a while um and we've certainly received our fair share of
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that but the only time I think that it's beneficial for a tipster to approach somebody like us or somebody that's in
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more mainstream portions of the media is if you have gone to law enforcement and
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you don't for whatever reason you don't think that they're doing anything with the information that you you gave them
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sometimes the the media can be a good checks and balances for a lot of different lines of work out there and
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professions out there and it's with this case one could certainly easily understand that a tip could slip through
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the cracks I mean we're talking at one point I think they reported having received over 40,000 forms of
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communication from the public that was several years ago that I remember reading that number so who
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knows what that number even totals to and when you receive that much information from the public again
00:31:07
probably these are all people that are trying and hoping to help in some way but probably a good I would I would bet
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the farm that a large percentage of those tips are turns out to be nothing not saying that they shouldn't have
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phoned it in or should not have emailed it they are looking for a needle and a haystack amongst those tips running down
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leads and checking into different things and some of them carry more weight than
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others and I think they're very smart to point out to the public to remind the public and one to recognize themselves
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and and understand themselves yes they've put a lot of work into this there's been a lot of good people
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involved and a lot of people that have worked very hard on this case but it's it's great to see that they understand
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that the work is not over that the job is not done yet and we don't know exactly what other avenues will be
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pursued uh through out the course of this investigation yeah and when Doug Carter said look we're going to add more
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resources and add to this team because again the work is not over now a couple things a couple things I'd like to share
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on the podcast so I don't have to answer it a thousand more times the number one
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question that I have received was was Richard Allen on my radar the answer to that is he was not was he on anybody's
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radar I'm not for sure but what I do know is I did receive a list and this was years ago one of the list was
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possible cell phone pings when they happened where they happened and who the cell phone belonged to and that that
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list was obviously a list created by somebody possibly in law enforcement and obviously everybody on that list would
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be a person of interest that law enforcement would want to talk to I can tell you where that list came from um it
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it came from the original prosecutor the prosecutor's office uh I believe it was
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IES at the time he his is his first name Richard I can't remember now everybody Richard Allen who know so maybe maybe we
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don't say that but the prosecutor IES at the time is on record stating that his office submitted many subpoenas to do
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what is in short called a data dump and basically they were looking for anybody whose cell phone pinged in the area of
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the moanin High Bridge and his statement I believe was within a five mile radius
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of the moanin High Bridge during the time of the homicides I I'll add in a little bit of my own speculation here my
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guess would be that they probably wanted to know from about 1:30 in the afternoon
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to maybe 5 6:00 in the evening uh let's do a data dump and submit the subpoenas to to get this information yes they're
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on record having done that and and getting the information which would have uh created a list of individuals whose
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phones pinged in the area of the moan and high bridge on the day that the girls went missing and later
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unfortunately we find out that they were killed on that day so yes his name just
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just with his residence being within that five mile radius would put him on on that list um and I think you were
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saying that he might have been on another list as well is that correct yeah so the other list that I had from
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years ago was a list of every male or supposedly every male between a certain age to a certain age that lived within a
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certain radius of the crime scene which like we've stated before he lived about a mile and a half from the crime scene
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so that would obviously put him on the list was it the age range of of what they were looking for when they put out
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the the potential suspect information I would assume so but I can't confirm that
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so so it was just a list that when people would present you know I'd be at crime con and people would pull out
00:35:23
their phone and say look at this guy don't you think he looks like guy and I'd be like well who is he well he's
00:35:30
this ice cream truck worker from California I'm like well is he tied to Indiana well I don't know but should I
00:35:39
turn it in and I'm like let's figure out a a link to him in in the state of Indiana for for starters right yeah and
00:35:49
those are the ones that I think are irresponsible look I know again it all circles back to the the majority of
00:35:58
these people even the person showing you a picture of some ice cream man from California the majority of these people
00:36:03
are just people that they're they want to help right they see Libby and aby's picture the their heartbreaks for the
00:36:11
families they just want to help in any way at all because we're all sick to our stomachs about this case with with these
00:36:22
murders with whatever happened and whoever did it it it's just it it feels like one of the most wrong things that
00:36:29
has happened in such a long time um that we're we're all very emotional about it
00:36:35
you know earlier you had said fits to a tea and and I get what you're saying but
00:36:41
I think it's also kind of all relative right like there's been he's not the first person that people have looked at
00:36:48
and gone looks just like bridge at the end of the day we just don't have that great of a picture of bridg guy and our
00:36:56
our own imaginations have filled in some of those blanks along the way uh some of
00:37:01
those question marks but but what I meant is if you look at his the picture of Richard Allen you look at his G that
00:37:09
stuff demeanor yeah and the and when they had back in the day when they actually had a height for him and a
00:37:16
weight for him you look at those pictures and go okay I can see this individual fitting in it's not like they
00:37:23
arrested a guy that's 68 and 400 pound and you're going well that doesn't make any sense and this case is going to be I
00:37:32
think very fascinating moving forward because we do have video footage of this individual we do have audio and maybe
00:37:41
some more audio data of this individual and I say of this individual because again Richard Allen is innocent until
00:37:49
proven guilty so I don't want to say that we have video footage of him until they're able to actually prove that well
00:37:56
and the thing here too so a little bit more information on Richard Matthew Allen I he has a weapon
00:38:05
permit from 2009 my guess is this is probably a conceal and carry permit I can't confirm that I can
00:38:15
confirm 100% that he did obtain a weapons permit a weapon permit in 2009 I'm I'm still checking on some
00:38:24
information to see if it is in fact the con and Carrie you know captain my mind it jumped immediately to
00:38:35
BTK as I'm watching and trying to digest the information in this press conference
00:38:42
then the reason being for for a couple of reasons you know I talked about earlier I don't know we don't know who
00:38:48
that reward money will go to if it will go to anybody we don't know what put this dude on the police radar and
00:38:55
everything I'm seeing and hearing sounds like it was a bit of a Twist or a turn or that this guy once they latch on to
00:39:04
him they move rather quickly and we've certainly not seen his name or likeness presented at any time before last week
00:39:12
in this five and a half years of the case and we've seen a lot of people's names and likenesses handcuffed to this
00:39:19
this case along the way the reason why my mind kind of went to to BTK is remember BT
00:39:27
his wife you know they had a recording of Dennis Raider calling in one of the crime scenes or calling in something
00:39:34
that he left clue for the for investigators and he and his wife were watching the news together and his wife
00:39:40
said to him very kind of casually oh you know you sound like BTK or oh BTK sounds right a lot like you
00:39:49
and they probably looked at each other and laughed it off at the time and went on about their lives you know Dennis
00:39:55
Raider knowing the whole time that he was in fact BTK you have to wonder this dude's voice down the hill guys down the
00:40:02
hill has been all over the news especially Indiana news for for all of this time you wonder was there was a
00:40:10
wife or somebody close to this guy at any time did they ever say you know you sound a lot
00:40:16
like that bridge guy that they're looking for well if it if you think it's okay I would like to share a rumor and I
00:40:25
will and I will leave out certain details so it's a vague rumor of what I've heard
00:40:32
that possibly could have happened I you're asking for permission but I don't know what you're going to say of course
00:40:37
go ahead right okay okay well I'll say it then we'll cut it out later if you if if you don't
00:40:44
think so but from what I've heard from several sources is that there was somebody
00:40:50
close that had some suspicions and maybe looked into certain things and that maybe they found something that
00:40:59
confirmed it for them that to that confirmed it to them and they went to law enforcement but if I'm not mistaken
00:41:07
and correct me if I'm wrong here it made it sound like they charged Richard Allen
00:41:13
and that he pled not guilty well yeah I I've not seen anything but I'm you know to hold him for any length
00:41:23
of time he would have to have a I'm guessing that that he I I don't know how public that is and I don't know if how
00:41:31
if it was an actual official not guilty plea um what I'm wondering is if if his lawyer if he lawyered up and the lawyer
00:41:43
has expressed look he he intends to to take this to trial and to plead not guilty because I would imagine we're
00:41:51
going to have cameras or the news will be all over um well and I say that because the preliminary hearing or or
00:42:00
whatever you know a more official uh Court setting and I'm saying that because in my notes of the press
00:42:08
conference which I have you chicken scratch trying to write down as much information I have the sentence he is
00:42:16
entering a plea of not guilty and I think that came from the prosecutor so I I'm guessing what he
00:42:24
said was we charged him with two counts of murder and he's entering a plead of not
00:42:34
guilty but I look I just thought the law enforcement overall was very respectful I know that they're keeping
00:42:42
things close to the vest I think that's out of respect for the victims and the victim's families and on top of that
00:42:50
like we said with crime it's not Richard Allen had friends and family as well and
00:42:54
I know he's had some friends come online and say that he is not capable of a of this murder and maybe that's the Richard
00:43:02
Allen they know and maybe through this trial they'll learn about a a different Richard Allen that they never
00:43:11
knew but his friends and his family and that Community they're all victims yeah and this is pure
00:43:22
speculation but I just wonder you know knew all along or a lot of us would believe that bridg guy likely had a
00:43:32
family you know Doug Carter even said it himself at one of the press conferences
00:43:36
likely has family and I am of the belief to commit crimes like these buried within the
00:43:47
person responsible he has a hate for likely women girls females in general or mankind I don't know how long those
00:44:03
individuals can keep that side of them from not showing especially to people closest to
00:44:10
them and we've seen it in other cases Captain where oh a person is a suspect in the case because they had the means
00:44:19
motive and well the means and opportunity anyway uh question on question mark on
00:44:25
the motive but we've seen in other cases where somebody somebody says something to a person in a domestic situation
00:44:34
maybe even a domestic violence situation that that they have done something or that they are capable of harming you
00:44:42
person because they've harmed people in the past and so yeah we don't know what has led to this individual or
00:44:53
or or if it was a tip that helped law enforcement we we do need to make sure we put out a good healthy reminder here
00:45:02
to everybody that the police they did say hey we are still requesting information from the public and we are
00:45:09
still requesting information from the public that that is about Richard Matthew Allen and also
00:45:17
that is not about Richard Matthew Allen and so any information that you have that you may that you think is in some
00:45:25
way related to these two homicides you still reach out to police and don't just dismiss it because your information does
00:45:37
not have Richard Matthew Allen's name attached to it give that information to police and I'm really curious here now
00:45:45
too now that we have a person named a person that's been officially charged with these two victims murders will
00:45:53
there be people that are able to connect the dots on some things that they weren't so sure of five and a half years
00:46:00
ago or three years ago or two years ago that will be coming forward and again the public wants to help police here in
00:46:08
this case and I think we'll continue to see that Trend but the proper way to help police you know police still ask
00:46:17
anyone with information to submit a tip at Abby and Libby tip at CA shrf or by calling 765
00:46:30
822 3535 we'll put that as always we'll put that information in the show notes for
00:46:38
today but again they would prefer an emailed tip and the email tip line is well I say tip line that shows my age
00:46:47
right the the email tip is Abby and Libby tip cacr f.com anything else here Captain I know that
00:46:58
they didn't really give us a whole lot uh I think that we're probably going to be learning a lot in the next few days
00:47:05
as the local news outlets start doing their digging and and start releasing information that they uncover along the
00:47:15
way it will be curious to find out when a potential court hearing will be to determine if these documents remain
00:47:24
sealed or they will be unsealed and released to the public and also we got that 30 days which I I think you're
00:47:32
correct here probably goes uh sealed 30 days for sure uh from October 28th unless we hear otherwise yeah again
00:47:42
thoughts are just with law enforcement to continue to do the right thing continue to do their due diligence take
00:47:50
this case very serious let's get the correct verdict where this is far from over it's far from over for the family
00:47:57
and if you want to show some love and support to the family you can visit Abby and libby. org yeah they're still
00:48:04
raising money for that beautiful Park that they've built in Memorial to these young girls who were both look did we
00:48:12
know Libby and Abby no and unfortunately we won't get that opportunity and they both look like they were just wonderful
00:48:21
little girls that's that's all they were that's all they were trying to be was wonderful girls and best friends and
00:48:27
they were very active in their schools and communities and I think a Memorial Park is one of the best ways that you
00:48:34
could honor their lives and and their and the community and their families and it's a beautiful Park it's a very active
00:48:45
park with active with sports and events uh public events but you know what they still want to continue to add to that
00:48:52
and make it even more beautiful and that is one way that you know if you are at home and you're just going man man I
00:49:00
wish I could do something well that's something that you can do we can all we can all pitch in and uh help help Deli
00:49:10
to try to heal uh this might be this might be one of the very first I know it's been five and a half years but this
00:49:18
might be one of the very first stepping stones in starting that healing process and let's let's help this community heal
00:49:27
and and and show our you know show Deli love and the fam's love and respect and show them that Community does not end at
00:49:39
the City Line Community goes on and on and on and we are all just one big Community trying to be good people and
00:49:46
helping each other want to thank you guys so much for listening and I want to thank everybody that shares information
00:49:52
about cases missing person cases online murder cases that are unsolved it really
00:49:59
does make a difference and until next week be good be kind and don't [Music] [Applause]
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