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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] welcome welcome welcome welcome in welcome in don't let
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the door hit you they say they're on the way in sometimes people say they're on the way in right I yeah if you want the
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person to leave don't let the door hits you on the way in oh man what a what a week anytime you
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go down a rabbit hole of aliens it's a week it is a week doing the the mash up this week mhm the
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generation one my mashup so that should be interesting I was really hoping cuz when you when you think about
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the the start of True Crime love right A lot of people especially around our age their their initial start of this
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was Unsolved Mysteries right but one of the best things I liked about that show was
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Bigfoot Lochness Monster was one of my favorites I I love looking at like all the images that people said were some
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kind of monster mhm and then like I always thought it was so fascinating how they were they would
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talk about how dark it was and and and there was all this other stuff because of um because of these chemicals in the
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water it was it's a lot murkier than other water so it was always like this like Perfect Storm of why there could be
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a a monster in the lake and I love those parts and then some of the alien stuff I I thought
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those were fascinating so so talking with Justin this week I was really hoping that we could dive into something like
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Area 51 or or some kind of um you know there's some cool connections to JFK and UFOs and I thought that we'd get to that
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and we we didn't we didn't get to the any craziness but I did watch this well I started by listening to Joe
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Rogan and and not just like on his podcast but just kind of flopping around on YouTube MH I want to I'm trying to
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find what the actual well while you look for that um that's that's so cool cool that
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you say that because that's really how I got into True Crime was not necessarily
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wanting to get into True Crime when I was very little I had a big fascination with dinosaurs and then when somebody
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tells you Loch Ness tells you the story of Loch NES you go holy [ __ ] yeah there's still some dinosaurs around at
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least that's where my brain went to and I was like I wanted to learn everything I could about loch nest and then that's
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why I tuned in into Unsolved Mysteries for the very first time when I watched it was because of that
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lockness and then the Bigfoot stuff was so interesting as well as some of the alien stuff and then they would Mash in
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True Crime they would have you know Unsolved Mysteries of murder mysteries or missing people or one one case they
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always kind of covered it was like a theme that I find fascinating and nobody really I don't hear any stories of this
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you know 30 years later now yeah and remember the Amnesia stories like there would be this person that just appeared
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in some town somewhere and they don't know who they are or how they got there well well right but it's probably
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because of our technology advancements well yeah and but I always found those ones fascinating and so I
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spilled over into True Crime because I'm sitting there watching this this show and I'm going after a while you get a
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little bit older and you start to look into like Loch Ness and Bigfoot and stuff like that and I don't want to I
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don't want to piss in anybody's Cheerios here but at some point you go all right
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well this is just this is just an unsolvable mystery you know and until they actually find a sea monster
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somewhere or until right Bigfoot actually does beat somebody up over beef jerky we may never know and it may just
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be myths and legends and really good stor and fascinating to think about but you know I got a little bit older and I
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started thinking well as somebody who does not like Mysteries to remain unsolved right I had to move on and I'm
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like whoa it was right there it was right there in front of me the whole time thanks to Robert Stack well you
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know he it's not like he showed up and wrote the script or anything but uh we will give him 100% credit for that
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fantastic show he talk cool yeah no but that what I love about about these I I would classify like 50 Area
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51 conspiracy theory uh JFK assassination definitely conspiracy theory but I'd even say stuff
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like Bigfoot and and possibly um some UFO stuff and and even Lochness I would kind of classify all under some kind of
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conspiracy and to me conspiracy theories are they're very interesting but I think
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there's like I think 90 some per of it is nonsense not saying that it's not true but I think it's just like it
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doesn't matter and I think what I love to find is like one point of evidence that I can't explain
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MH and so when then I'm talking to somebody uh and they're going well Bigfoot's not real I'll say well I don't
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know if it's real or not but what but we but what we do know is there was an animal similar to this that lived years
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and years ago so is it possible that some kind of relative or some kind of evolution of this
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animal you know became something else a lot of people also think that they're like Time Travelers or or teleporters or
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uh I love the shirts like um hideand-seek champion uh you know with Bigfoot but um but what's interesting is you you
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have this I know there was a documentary that came out in the last few years and
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this guy uncovered some footage that he gave to Canadian um Canada's government and
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they basically said look we we don't know what this footage is and we can't say it's a hoax and we can't say it's
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real cuz we don't really know what we're seeing and they they were able to pass a
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law saying if this creature is real it is illegal to kill this creature and that's pretty interesting
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cuz that's a a bigger form uh of government saying hey we don't know what this is
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and this possibly could be real and so it's like whether you believe it or not that's an interesting
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tidbit um so on YouTube it just likes to suggest things to you you know based on
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what you've watched and I think the first clip I watched was the moment Bob Lazar knew he was dealing with something
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alien and it's just a picture of Joe Joe's face and Bob lazar's face and I've never heard of Bob Lazar and I I started
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diving into all these clips and then you then probably into some of these clips you start realizing
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oh there's a documentary so there's this new documentary well it's not that new it's about a year old or
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so uh it's called Bob Lazar Area 51 and flying saucers it's worth watching I think they try to make certain things a
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little too artsy there's some scenes where it's like really bad sci-fi music andh and really bad pictures of like
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planets and stuff and then a guy going they don't want us to know you know and talking and these like weird
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riddles and stuff and and that stuff I thought was kind of hokey but the interviews of Bob Lazar at his kitchen
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table are definitely fascinating and if you don't have time to watch the documentary I would definitely say check
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if you're into like the unsolved mystery stuff and any type of alien UFO stuff i' definitely
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recommend listening to this interview with Joe Rogan because basically this guy came out I believe in
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1989 um he worked for a a unit of our government he made all these claims of what he saw what he was dealing
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with and in the last 30 years or so a lot of his claims are now becoming true stuff that they thought were [ __ ]
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before they're realizing this guy wasn't bullshitting and he has a very interesting take on stuff
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because he he's not a he's not a UFO Watcher he's not he doesn't care he thinks he keeps kind of rehashing two
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things one if this is proof of Life on another planet that this needs to be our government needs to come out and say we
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have proof proof of that it's too big of a a fine for Humanity to not put it out
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there and then deal with it um so that's his first thing and then the other thing
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is that he thinks not everything but some of the technology that they know that they have and kind of understand
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what they're dealing with that they should present that not in its entirety but to kind of
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almost debrief the whole country oh by the way there's this thing that is creating gravity we don't know how to
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create gravity you know there's there's the only way that we can do this is by uh creating bigger and bigger
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masses so science doesn't have a way to just turn a switch on and and create gravity
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so basically he's saying that some of these technologies that that he was working on and these other teams were
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working on that the government should come out and say hey we're working we have we've seen this technology we
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understand how it works but we don't know how to recreate it we don't know if we can create something that does that
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uh you know he makes all these other claims that you know there was these um he claims that he saw like nine flying
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songers that they were all different shapes and but his story is just really interesting how he you know he went to
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Cal University then he went to MIT then he started working for this company and and then he starts you know pushing the
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issue that he would like to work on some top secret stuff he gets in there he becomes a part of a team but everybody's
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working on something different so they nobody really knows exactly what the other team is working on but they have
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some debriefing of it and then you know they're monitoring him and he knows that they're monitoring
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their calls they're monitoring their their mail their friends anything that they can monitor and some stuff is going
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wrong with his personal life but he doesn't actually know that so they kind of chill him out like on bringing him on
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because they're trying to figure out basically his his wife is having an affair and and they know that but he
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doesn't so the whole idea was that they're like we're just not going to bring them into
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work and we're going to wait for him to discover this and see how he reacts well he just doesn't really uh
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Discover it so therefore he's going weeks and weeks without going to work and eventually he he starts getting
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scared he actually thinks that maybe he did something wrong you know what if they try to eliminate him or whatever
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that you know he could end up you know quote unquote dying in a car accident and people wouldn't know that he was
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working on this top secret [ __ ] so he his idea was let me tell my friends so if something bad happens to me they kind
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of know so he goes and tells a bunch of his friends of course they don't believe him
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but what does he have he has a test schedule uh of when they test these these flying saucers so they end up
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going out to this Lake watching a bunch of the test sites with some of his friends that he told what was going on
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they try to videotape it you know that's of course back in the day there's you know really shitty VHS home re uh
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recorders and then they are busted by busted going out there watching these test flights and then they bring them in
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and then they explain to them well we weren't having you come in to work because your wife's having an affair and
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we we need to make sure that you're going to be stable so I mean it's just uh it was it it was worth the watch uh
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definitely the the if you're into the that part of Unsolved Mysteries well and his
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claims are what they site you know that the internet a lot of websites will site
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that his claims are what brought this area 51 to the to the knowledge of the of the
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general public yeah which is factually just not true because of the the wreck AG of the the first crash of Area 51 was
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that was kind of the main thing but it kind of died down so he was I thought that was
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Roswell well yeah you have the crash at Roswell but I I think I don't I don't think Bob was the
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first of the area 51 I it doesn't matter I'd have to look it up but that that's just what what I'm reading here
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mhm lazar's claims resulted in bringing the secret area 51 site to the attention
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of the public because they're saying he's stating that they were so he was he was tasked with doing
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reverse engineering basically where meaning you you see a technology in use and then you have to try to figure out
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how to replicate that mhm and his claims are that he was tasked with re reverse engineering alien technology basically
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technology that we didn't have right and then we got it from extraterrestrials and therefore where
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these where he's filming or viewing these flying saucers or UFOs or whatever you want to call them that this was
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taking place at an area that he called S4 near the area 51 Groom Lake operating location right and there's also a Area
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52 they talk about several times which that's one of the first times I've ever heard Area 52 I was like oh Area
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52 um yeah and he talked about how they you know how they had to get access to their Badges and in the 80s when he made
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these claims these machines that he was talking about that kind of measure your hands and measure your bone density and
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all this stuff in your hands everybody just thought he was just making this up and that he was just you know crazy uh
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but they've since been able to find some of these machines that he actually was talking about and they were uh the Lo
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one of the locations that they found these were was Area 52 and they actually found a guy that worked for the
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government uh repairing these things and he talked about how well we eventually replaced them because they were they
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kind of broke all the time mhm but what's also interesting is how you know Bob makes all these claims
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and then therefore they start his past starts disappearing his his birth certificate at some point disappears at
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some point I I I think it's almost impossible to find out that Bob Lazar went to cow University it's almost
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impossible to find that Bob went to MIT even though there's several people that Bob grew up with that can tell you
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well I drove him to school or I was in class with him and so their claim is if he's lying about this well he went and
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just you know why would he go to school for no credits and then lied that he had
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had a degree later uh cuz they found severals you know not just at Cal University but also at MIT several
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people that he went to school with now he won't bring these people up publicly anymore because when he does bad things
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start happening to them and they also try to discredit what where he worked after um
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MIT and it's so funny because that you know these investigators that that talk to Bob they're they're trying to
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disprove his story and they're like yeah you talk to all these people that that worked there and they're like we have no
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record of him but they found him in an employee directory you know from the years that
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he he claimed that he worked there so it's like you you can lie all you want you can get rid of some records but if
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you don't get rid of all the records and think about all the people that had directories that worked there and you
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finally contact somebody that goes oh yeah I have an old directory and then you open it up and boom there's Bob
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right there MH uh so that was one of the things but the other thing too was in his spare time he liked to work on on
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Rockets so he would attach Rockets to cars and attach Rockets to to motorcycles and and this was a big hobby
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of him one of the reasons why people think that the government wanted him to be a part of the reverse
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engineering so it's uh what's fascinating though is this company saying he didn't work there but
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you find him in a directory and then you also find him on the cover of one of their newsletters saying hey this great
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engineer that works for us he has this really cool hobby uh and he also has these you know records that he's
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broke because of his hobby at home so it's just but I I find that stuff just so fascinating that um here's this guy
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that seems to be above level intelligence he he seems to be telling the truth there's evidence of what he's
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saying and and there's evidence of people trying to disprove him and almost get rid of him um it's but it's
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fascinating and then it really started making me wonder you know if they I I remember this years back but
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they had a um do you ever see the Sasquatch in a box um well I don't even know what it is
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it was somebody took like a basically a Sasquatch like costume and they put it in a box and it
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was It was supposed to be that they found this dead Sasquatch on the side of the road or maybe this Sasquatch
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attacked something and they shot it and for like I I remember it being on a couple news stations of we don't know if
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this is real but this story has blowing up that a guy killed a Sasquatch and has
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him in the Box mhm and it took a while but they you know obviously disproved it but it's like that day I remember going
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oh [ __ ] maybe it's real and with this like Bob Lazar guy talking I go yeah could he be full of [ __ ] yeah
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and he also talks about government's putting out uh disinformation right mhm and and so so then it makes
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you start wondering is he a part of that is he a part of putting out some nonsense uh to the
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public um or is he who not who he says he is right right or is it all a lie [Music]
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and you know think about this way he some of the big things as far as like the how to get into the security
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clearance to get past it and use these weird things that measure your hands and measure bones or whatever what if he was
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a operator of one of those what if he was a Salesman of one of those you I mean like so he knew about this
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technology that not many people used you know or or maybe he was a janitor at one
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of these sites you know what I mean right he hasn't really changed much of his story I mean there was a story he
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was telling that when he was walking through one of the hangers one day that he looked through and saw two guys
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in lab coat and it looked like they were bending down looking at what this I kind of find this
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uh funny cute but also at the same time scary as they called aliens quote unquote the
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kids because he claims that the seats were so small and these rocket ships these flying saucers that that would
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only kind of fit like a child right and so he but he claims back in the 80s he claimed or or early 90s when he he was
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making a lot of these claims he was saying he saw two researchers looking down at and it looked like a seat of one
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of the flying saucers with with one of the kids in there uh but he has s said that he thinks he did see what he saw
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for a split second but it was more likely probably a dummy that they were putting to try to figure out what size
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of person would fit in one of these chairs right but it's you know it's such a but it's that like I said it's that
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it's not even if his story is true or not to me it's like it's the next step of when would a
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government have to come out and say hey we know some [ __ ] and we've been hiding
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it for a while but we know some [ __ ] and how you know cuz one of the friends I
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was talking to about this was saying it'd be pure chaos and I I don't think it would be I
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think it'd be I think there'd be some uh shock and I think people would be scared
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and I think there'd be some Panic at first but then I think it kind of go back uh to the way things were you know
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so but it's a you know F fascinating I and I I can't tell you if I believe in it one way or the other but I'm of the
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mindset and have been of the mindset for a long time that you our universe is so
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vast that it doesn't really make much sense that we'd be the only intelligent creatures out there
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