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was made in October 1974 early in the morning on the 22nd the phone rang at the Otero murder
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hotline that was set up by the two major newspapers the caller didn't say much and he sounded angry he told the newsman
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listen and listen good because I'm not going to repeat it he said the man that had killed the otos stuck a letter in a
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mechanical engineering textbook on the second floor of the witch public library then he hung up the
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phone the police were notified the letter was located the letter was addressed to the Witchita eagle and
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Beacon secret Witness Program under the secret Witness Program persons with information concerning a crime could
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pass on information to the police through the newspaper without divulging their identity the poorly typed and
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badly misspelled letter provided details on the four Otero slangs that the police
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said at the time could only have been known to someone who had been present at the scene the letter
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read I write this letter to you for the sake of the taxpayer as well as your time those three dude you have in
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custody are just talking to get publicity for the ooto murders they know nothing at all I did it by myself and
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with no one's help there has been no talk either let's put this straight Joe positioned Southwest bedroom feet tied
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to bed bondage window blind cord Gat blind cord brown belt death the old bag trick
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and strangled with clothesline rope clothes white sweatshirt gray pants comments he threw up at one time had a
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rib injury from a wreck few week before Julie positioned lying on her back on the bed bondage blind cord Gat
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clothline cord tied in a clove hitch death strangulation twice clothes Blue House coat black
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slack white sock comments blood on face from too much pressure on neck bed unmade Josephine position hanging by the
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neck in the Northwest position of the basement dryer or freezer north of her body
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bondage hand tie with blind cord feet and knees all with clothesline cord all one length Gat rough hemp rope noose
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with four or five turns clothes dark bra cut in the middle sock death strangulation once
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hung comments most of her clothes at the bottom of the stairs her glasses in the
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south West bedroom Joseph position an East bedroom lying on his back bondage blind cord Gat
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three hoods white t-shirt white plastic bag another t-shirt cloth line cord with
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clove hitch death Suffocation once strangulation Suffocation with the old bag trick clothes brown pants yellow
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brown striped t-shirt comments His Radio is blaring all victims had their hands tied
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behind their backs gags of pillowcase material purse contents south of the table spilled drink in that area
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also kids making lunches otero's watch missing I needed one so I took it runs good car was dirty inside out of gas
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I'm sorry this happened to society they are the ones who suffer the most it hard to control
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myself you probably call me psychotic with sexual perversion hangup when this monster enter my brain
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I will never know but it here to stay how does one cure himself if you ask for help that you
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have killed four people they will laugh or hit the panic button and call the cops I can't stop it so the monster goes
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on and hurt me as well as Society Society can be thankful that there are ways for people like me to
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relieve myself at Time by Daydreams of some victims being tortured and being mine it a big complicated game my friend
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of the monster play putting victim's number down follow them checking up on them waiting in the dark
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waiting waiting the pressure is great and sometime he run the game to his liking maybe you can stop him I
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can't he has already chosen his next victim or victims I don't who they are yet the
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next day after I read the paper I will know but it too late good luck hun ing Yours Truly
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guiltily PS since sex criminals do not change their MO or by Nature cannot do so I
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will not change mine the code words for me will be bind them torture them kill them
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BT you see he added again they will be on the next victim when Dennis Raider killed the
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otos and their two children he was unemployed in attending classes at Witchita state in November of 1974
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Dennis was hired at ADT Security which at the time sold and installed commercial grade
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alarms it might have been this job that kept him busy maybe it was his home life
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regardless something was happening and thank God that it did because BTK was just too busy to go out and kill in fact
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there would be 3 years before he would kill again the killer claimed responsibility for the murders of the
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four Otero family members and gave himself a name BTK but one thing he had yet to disclose and one thing that
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police were yet to connect to the BTK Strangler is that he had committed another murder shortly after killing the
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otos and this is one that BTK called project lights out Katherine Dorene brigh was one of five children in her
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family she was born on February 24th 1953 she loved singing in the church with her sister she had graduated from
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high School in 1971 now in 1974 she was 21 years old Catherine was a smart popular and funny college student and
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she worked for the Coleman company Katherine and her sister shared a house that they rented together now on the
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morning of April 4th 1979 Dennis Raider who had been watching the house and who had targeted his next
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victim picked her because she was attractive and no men lived with her and and she did not have a dog you know
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these were problems that he ran into during the ooto crimes yeah and on that morning he's going to break into a
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kitchen window to gain access to the house and he knew at this time that the house would be empty which uh this was
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good for him because he needed time to prep the home for murder but he didn't he didn't just want to kill Katherine
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brigh he wanted to play with her first and he brought with him plenty of ropes and cords to play with while he waited
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for her to return he laid out ropes and cords on her bed he used a broom to carefully sweep up the broken glass and
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he was wearing gloves and a green parka he took a stocking cap and pulled it down to cover his face and he brought
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with him a gun his 22 now he was ready and all he needed was for his victim to return to her home and find him at this
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moment he was no longer dentist no longer the ordinary man that led an orinary unremarkable Life In This Moment
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he was the killer that haunted witch the Phantom that the whole city feared he was BTK well and when she returns she's
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she's going to return home but she's not going to be alone yeah with her was her
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19-year-old brother Kevin when they walked in they were very quickly greeted by a man in a mask with a gun the man
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told them that he was a convict and he just needed something to make his way to California if they cooperated they would
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not be hurt he just needed some money some food and the car keys and he was going to need to tie them up to make
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sure that he had enough time to get away he had Kevin tie up Catherine and then BTK tied up Kevin BTK took Catherine to
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her bedroom where he had prepped the room with his ropes and a chair he tied Catherine to the chair then he returned
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to the room where he had left Kevin he he put a rope around his neck now Kevin realizes at this moment that the man had
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lied to them that the man was going to kill him mhm so he started twisting his hands and his arms until the bindings
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gave way Kevin jumped to his feet and The Mask man grabbed his gun and put it to Kevin's forehead and pulled the
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trigger Kevin fell to the floor but he was not dead amazingly enough he was not dead he had been knocked out and when he
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came to he could hear his sister in the other room screaming he got up and he charged into the other
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room the man saw him coming and again reached for his gun but before he could take Aim Kevin PRI the gun from the
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man's hand Kevin took the gun and shoved the barrel into the man's chest and he pulled the trigger the as salent managed
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to wedge his thumb between the gun and the hammer preventing it from firing the man pulled the gun from Kevin and put it
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to Kevin's mouth and pulled the trigger the gun fired and Kevin once again Hit the Floor BTK once again turned his
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attention to Catherine Kevin was still not dead when the gun was fired into Kevin's face the bullet had actually
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ricocheted off of his teeth leaving Kevin a bloody mess and knocked out but not dead it probably only knocked him
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out for a few minutes and when he came to he decided this time instead of trying to fight off the attacker he was
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going to take his chances and run for help Kevin flew out the front door of the home running for speed and yelling
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at the top of his lungs a man driving by stopped and Kevin jumped in his car the
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man drove him to the nearest phone and they called the police the call a robbery in progress at a home on East
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13th Street the robber was trying to kill two people and was still in the home a police officer is going to be on
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the scene within 15 minutes of Kevin leaving the home when the officer arrived the front door to the home was
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wide open and the officer went in he found Catherine in the front room lying on her side in a puddle of blood a phone
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was next to her she had tried to call for help but when the operator picked up Catherine could not speak her Linex had
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been crushed she could only whisper at this time she lifted her head but all she
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could say to the officer was help me help me the officer radioed for an ambulance and he knelt beside Catherine
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with his gun drawn as he waited for backup his backup arrived about the same time as the ambulance they quickly
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determined the man who had broke in and attacked Catherine and Kevin had fled the house mhm in the two bedrooms were
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obvious signs of a struggle both rooms were left in shambles and blood was smeared on the floors Catherine had been
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stabbed 11 times in her torso and back two of the stabs had punctured her lungs Catherine died a short while later at at
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the hospital now Kevin was a living witness he was in the same hospital where his sister had just passed now he
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was being treated for those two gunshots he would survive and he was able to tell the police about the killer
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you know he told them what the killer had told them about him going to California yeah and this giving them a
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possible lead Kevin described the attacker as a dark-haired man about 25 years of age Caucasian with a pot belly
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and about 5' 10 in tall with a thick mustache now there was some problems with this description of the attacker
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now you and I captain would know years later that this description is actually a pretty good one right I mean it's a
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little vague but it's a pretty good one he got the height approximately right he
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got the size of the person right the the uh you know darkhaired man with the thick mustache the mustache the thing
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that he got wrong was he didn't tell him that he saw a giant piece of [ __ ] well
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because of the injuries that Kevin sustained during the the attack mhm a lot of the police officers in and
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investigators had a problem with taking him at his word they thought that it was
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too traumatic of an attack and that he was probably had suffered multiple concussions so he's just lying no no no
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no no that he just doesn't he doesn't remember misremembering correct okay that I mean you have to keep in mind
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okay but why why well for the reasons I just said that no no but I mean like so what do they think he looks like oh they
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no they have no they have nothing to go off of but they're just for whatever reason going yeah we don't really buy
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that okay but you you have to keep this in mind let's say okay let's say he suffered multiple concussions within a
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short period of time during this attack now nobody's doubting that he that he didn't get a good look at this guy guy M
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uh the guy did had he had to disguise himself a bit by pulling that cap down over his face now on top of that though
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you have to worry that if if for some reason this guy is just misremembering and he gives you a bad description of
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this dude if you run with this this could really screw up your investigation yeah so so to air on the side of caution
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one might think well let's just throw this description out or keep it to ourselves not releasing it to the public
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and not putting much weight into what we're that's the point I was trying to get at like well if if they're not sure
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then what's the big deal but but like you said I mean if you give this report out then then this could affect the
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whole investigation and you don't want officers later going well I I arrested this guy and I thought maybe he had
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something to do with that attack but he didn't look anything like that description so I let him go right then
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you're like oh crap that was our dude um so we have this murder and the strange thing about this murder is not only does
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BTK leave a witness but he also does not um he doesn't ever claim this murder he never he never
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outwardly says this is one that I did and I because it's botched yeah and I wonder well not only that it's botched
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but this is the one time where we have a grown adult that might be able to identify him right therefore we're going
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to see where he will claim you know by this point he's already told the authorities and the police I'm the one
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that did the Otero murders but he never reaches out to them and talks to him about this one and this one occurred
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just three months afterward yeah but again you have eyewitness that lived mhm well after the Catherine Bright's murder
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other than his letter left at the library the killer went silent both in words and
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Captain well it would be 3 years before BTK would resurface and during this time
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Dennis and his wife had their first child a son that they named him Brian now we talked about we wondered why he
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could have gone silent what was going what else was going on in his world we we see the birth of his son but Dennis
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is also working very hard at the ADT company and he was actually earning promotions at this job during the course
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of those three years he got to the point where he was actually supervising a team
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of installers and salespeople now the country during this time celebrated its Bicentennial months
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came and went and the city that had once feared the BTK began to forget about him
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M the killer had vanished and a lot of people wondered if he had maybe even left town a long time ago and we now
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know why BTK took a break but let's go through some of the theories that law enforcement had at the time theorizing
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why he was on a break well the two most popular you know like we said that it seemed like the people of the city
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belied that maybe he had just fled the area right and just left all together now the police theories one of the more
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popular ones is that maybe he had died in a car accident or that he was picked up on some unrelated charge in serving a
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prison sentence now this is one that I like this was a theory of the FBI because the ooto murders were
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very it was a it was was an Infamous case I mean it the the investigation spanned months and years and they
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actually some of the investigators traveled extensively in their investigation of the family murders MH
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so they interviewed hundreds of people when it came to the ottero murders so one FBI agent he had theorized that
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maybe that the BTK was actually one of many people that were interviewed in that in the course of that investigation
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and just that experience alone was enough to scare him away you know to stop him from moving forward with some
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of these crimes and some of these thoughts and desires of his and it's extra strange to me because he's made
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contact with the public and he's said hey I'm here I'm killing people and then it just kind of disappears yeah and he
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also confesses to being a you know these are crimes of a sexual nature is what he's told us in his own words and you
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know we somebody we talk about a lot on this show Captain John Douglas you know he says from his experience serial
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sexual predators don't just wake up one day and decide to turn over a new leaf and change their lives for the better so
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that's why you have the FBI and you have seasoned investigators believing that something must have happened something
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must have happened to derail this killer who was going to pray on the city but on
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March 17th 1977 that's all going to change yeah and this is almost 3 years after the murder of Katherine brigh so
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the Killer is going to break his silence on that morning in the morning hours a little boy was returning home from an
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Aaron he was stopped by a man he had not seen before now the man had a bag with him and he also had a photograph and he
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showed the photograph to the boy and asked him if he knew either of the people in the photograph the boy said
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that he didn't know them now the man then walked away and the boy was watching this man and he saw the man
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approach the home of his neighbor now the boy then returned to his house where his mother was in her room sick and his
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brother and sister were still at home and they were watching TV after about 10 minutes or so there was a knock at the
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door the boy opened the door and on the front porch was the man who had asked him earlier about the photograph now the
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man was asking about a dog dog this time he said that he had lost his dog and asked the boy if he had seen a dog
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running loose around the neighborhood MH the boy says no and then the man asks is
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your mother home we should ask her the man then pushed the boy aside and walked inside the house right past the boy and
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he walks over to the TV and he turns the TV off remember the children are sitting
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there watching the TV right this startles the children and they starts screaming the mother who was sick in her
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bedroom she hears the commotion and she came out into the room at this point the
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man had pulled out a gun the woman yelled at him she wanted to know who he was why was she why was he in her home
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why does he have a gun why does he have a gun yep and he he tells her to shut up
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and he pointed at the bedroom and he told her to get back in there and she says well what about my children and he
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told her to grab a blanket and some toys well she complied he took the blanket and he lay it on the bathroom floor and
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then he spread the toys out on the blanket and he ordered the children all three of them into the bathroom well
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they complied the bathroom has two doors the man put together like a a makeshift
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locking mechanism of some sorts he he tied some rope from the door knob to the piping underneath the sink in the
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bathroom and this prevented that door from being opened now the man went out the other door and
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he pushed a bed to the outside of the door and this prevented this door from being open so the three children are
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trapped inside this small bathroom the man then forced the mother to strip then he took some tape out of
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his bag and he began to bind the mother he taped her hands together behind her back and he laid her down on the bed
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face down he put a rope around her neck and a plastic bag over her head sometime
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later the children began to break free from their confinement in this bathroom one of the boys kicked through the
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bottom portion of one of the doors this was the door that was tied to the pipes yeah when he busted free he found his
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mother laying lifeless on her bed the boy ran outside into the front porch of a neighbor's house where he pounded on
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the front door the neighbor answered and the boy screamed screamed to the neighbor that he needed help telling him
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that his mommy was dead so then the police were called well paramedics arrived on the scene first and they
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actually went in and they cut the bindings around the woman's arms and legs and it was a smaller bedroom so
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they carried her into the living room area and they tried to revive The woman there now she had only been dead a very
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very short period of time so they thought they could bring her back however they were unable to do so now
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the police questioned the children they wanted to know what had happened what had they seen and the children told them
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that the killer was a dark-haired white man in his late 30s or 40s with a pot belly on March 17th
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1977 serial killer BTK killed Shirley vienne in her home while her children were locked in the bathroom now many
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many years years later it was surmised that the man the BTK that was walking around the neighborhood mhm that the
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photo that the man had shown the boy was actually a photograph of a neighbor woman and her son this was also the home
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that the man had approached after talking to the boy the intended target was the young
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mother who had regularly returned home from work during her lunch break but not on this day for whatever reason right
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and when she was not home you know he knocks on the door no one answers the door nobody's home he's too charged up
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he's ready to murder and the only way that this feeling was going to go away for him was to kill somebody right the
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factor x yes so that's why when his Target was not there he shifted gears and he went to he went to the home where
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he saw the little boy go inside because he knew somebody was home there yeah but
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you know can you imagine what that kid's gone through with his life I mean one he's stopped by this killer he doesn't
00:32:06
know he's a killer right to ask a simple question about a dog he answers he goes
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back home mhm and his mom's sick in bed the kids aren't sick the mom's sick but that's why they're not at school this
00:32:20
guy knocks on the door you answer he says well let me talk to your mom and he walks right in the house and look when
00:32:27
you're a kid if an adult would have walked in the house you you probably just would have
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froze yeah I don't know this person what are they doing and they you know they turn it off turn off the TV and then
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your mom comes out and now you're stuck in the bathroom and you're trying to get out
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you got to get through that rope and then you have to kick through the door and then you run to go get help and then
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param paramedics almost are able to uh save your mother and you would have to contemplate for a long time
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that well not saying that you'd have to but you would you would think maybe I could have done something to save her or
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maybe I could have got through there faster you know well and it's depressingly strange how some small
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events that seem so meaningless in their moment how they shift the gears of our lives and the others around us I mean
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you talk about had had the mother not decided to keep the children home from school that day you know she didn't send
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them off to school because she was too sick to get them ready for the day and take them to school these were small
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children Butterfly Effect yeah and so had her little boy not been walking the neighborhood he would have never been
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approached by that man by BTK mhm and maybe BTK would have been forced to go to another Street or to call it off
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completely if he had no alternative victim let's say so it's it's depressingly strange
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how these tiny little moments shift the gears of everything the other thought too here
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Captain is the scary thought that there was another targeted victim that that he
00:34:09
that there was somebody else that he was watching and he was so worked up by this
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point that he couldn't stop himself he had to kill somebody this was the moment for him and he was going to make that
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happen even though his Target was not available and and then you also wonder how long he was stocking this person
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yeah and I get the feeling well I don't get the feeling I I know for a fact I just don't know who these other
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potential victims would have been um I'm sure law enforcement knows this and I'm
00:34:39
sure FBI might know this because BTK kept extensive notes okay and he called each one of these little things he
00:34:48
called a project it had a project and a nickname and usually in the notes he would refer to it as PJ something so
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like for we talked about uh Katherine Bright's murder right well she was Project lights out and the next project
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that he had because he fancied himself some kind of like he was conducting these secret missions he's spying on
00:35:13
these people he's taking notes about their activities and their lifestyle their comings and goings and his secret
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mission is to break into their home and terrorize them and kill them yeah and so
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the next project that he had he referred to this as project foxy and this would be Nancy Joe Fox she was 25 years old
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she was a smart hardworking woman she had a good sense of humor she worked days full-time as a secretary for a
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construction business and at nights she worked at a jewelry store so this was a busy young professional woman a neighbor
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described Fox as a loner who seldom entertained friends on December 9th A call came in so busy working well
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working two jobs yeah on December 9th A call came in from a pay phone the caller
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told the dispatcher you will find a homicide at 843 South persing Nancy Fox now I'm sorry sir said
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the dispatcher I can't understand you what is the address at that point another dispatcher who had been
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monitoring the call interrupted and said I believe he said 843 South Persian that
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is correct the man said and then he hung up the phone at 8:30 a.m. police arrived
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at The Address given by the unknown caller they discovered a back window to the home had been shattered the phone
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line to the house had been cut the front door was unlocked they entered the home
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in the master bedroom the police found the half- naked dead body of 25-year-old Nancy Fox she was lying on the bed a
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nylon stocking was used used to tie her wrist behind her back her panties were pulled down to her knees a night gown
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had been tied around her ankles and she had been dead for quite some time probably hours now some portions of her
00:37:10
body had turned Black by the time she was found she had been gagged with panty hose blood was dried around her nose and
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mouth panty hose had been tied around her neck the killer had dumped nany's purse on the coffee table and the living
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room and her driver's license was missing Sean was found on a blue night gown that was found on the floor near
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the foot of her bed the victim had not been raped there were they were able to find partial fingerprints and a partial
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palm print on her body however these would not be sufficient enough to find a match police theorized the killer had
00:37:52
broke into the home through the broken window perhaps before Nancy had returned home the previous evening he turned up
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the heat to make to make up for the cold air that was coming through the broken window he threatened her bound her
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killed her masturbated near her body then posed the body possibly taking photos of her he then dumped out her
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purse keeping her driver's license as a souvenir he rummaged through her dresser
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drawers probably taking some of her undergarments with him he then left the home and at around 8:00 a.m. the next
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morning he drove to a pay phone and called in the homicide now the phone call only lasted 7 Seconds the phone
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call was recorded and it was played over and over on the local news channels during their broadcast the police were
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hoping someone anyone would recognize the voice someone had to know who this killer was this audio clip is very
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distorted but keep in mind it is from 1977 you will find a homicide at 43 South N I'm sorry sir I can't understand
00:39:09
you what is the address3 that is correct it's like he's trying to be a robot or something maybe
00:39:19
he was doing some kind of weird Cadence cuz if you notice like every everything he is saying is kind of like this mhm so
00:39:28
maybe he was doing that on purpose but I don't think this clip generated any leads right and and the audio quality
00:39:35
may be so bad that it's just it sounds distorted anyway um but like you said this was played on the news and it
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didn't really generate any leads of any value if they did get any calls regarding this you know these could be
00:39:48
crackpot calls of people calling in saying this sounds like my evil stepfather you know things like that of
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that nature but it was on the last day of January 1978 that the killer sent a valentine to the local newspaper this
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would be almost 2 months after the murder and then but that's not going to be made public no and because of that
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reason on February 10th of 1978 a letter was sent as well to k a TV network with
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a handdrawn picture of a woman tied up gagged and lying Face Down on a Bed the letter would later become known as the
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fox letter right so we have the fox phone call and now we have the fox letter but these are I mean he his
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writing is as bad as my speaking well it could be or it could be done on purpose
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right so there's some thought that if you okay if you break up your words and if you break up your sentences that that
00:40:49
they are able to tell the experts are able to tell less about you there are some people that are of the belief that
00:40:56
by using certain words and choosing certain words in the way that you arrange them in sentences that they
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might be able to judge and tell things about your personality so one thing that people have always taken a guess at here
00:41:10
when it comes to BTK was he just stupid like the way that his words sound on paper you stupid you stupid or was he
00:41:19
smart enough that he did this on purpose so that he wasn't showing his full hand
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so to speak the typed photocopy letter that they received known as the fox letter reads as
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follows I find the newspaper not writing about the poem on vain unamusing a little paragraph would have
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enough I know it not the media fault the police chief he keeps things quiet and doesn't let the public know they're a
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psycho running around loose strangling mostly women there are seven in the ground who will be
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next how many do I have to kill before I get a name in the paper or some national
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attention do the cop think that all those deaths are not related golly G yes the mo is different
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in each but look a pattern is developing the victims are tie up most have been women phone cut bring some
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bondage sadest matter Tendencies no struggle outside the death spot no Witnesses except the Vain's
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kids they were very lucky a phone call saved them I was going to tape the boys and
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put plastic bag over their head like I did Joseph and Shirley and then hang the girl God what a beautiful sexual release
00:42:54
that would been Josephine when I hung her that really turned me on her plead for Mercy then the Rope
00:43:02
took whole she helpless staring at me with wide terror-filled eyes the Rope getting
00:43:11
tighter tighter you don't understand these things because you are not under the influence of factor
00:43:19
x the same thing that made Son of Sam Jack the Ripper Harvey glass Boston Strangler Dr HH
00:43:31
Holmes pantyho Strangler of Florida Hillside Strangler Ted of the West Coast and many
00:43:40
more infinite character kill which seems senseless but we cannot help it there is no help no cure except
00:43:52
death or being caught and put away it a terrible nightmare but you see I don't lose any sleep over
00:44:01
it after a thing like Fox I go home and I go about life like anyone else and I will be like that until the urge hit me
00:44:13
again it not continuous and I don't have a lot of time it take time to set a kill
00:44:20
and one mistake it all over since I about blew it on the phone handwriting is out letter guide is too
00:44:30
long and typewriter can be traced to my short poem of death and maybe a drawing later on maybe a real picture
00:44:41
and a tape of the sound will come your way how will you know me before a murder or murders you will
00:44:49
receive a copy of the initials BTK you keep that copy the original will show up someday on guess who may you not
00:45:00
be The Unlucky One P.S how about some name for me it's time seven down and many more to go I like the following how
00:45:12
about you the BTK Strangler Witchita Strangler poetic Strangler the bondage Strangler or
00:45:23
psycho the Witchita hangman the Witchita executioner the Gat Phantom the asphyxiates motive and victim number six
00:45:39
you found one Shirley vain laying belly down on unmade bed in Northeast bedroom hand tied behind back with black tape
00:45:48
and cord feet and ankles with black tape and legs ankles tied to West head of the bed
00:45:56
with a small off-white cord wrapped around legs arms and neck many times a plastic bag over her head
00:46:06
with a pink nighty on barefooted she was sick use a glass of water and smoke one
00:46:14
or two cigarette house a total mess kids took some toys with them to the bathroom
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bed against East bathroom door chose at random with some pre-planning motive factor x number
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seven one Nancy Fox lying belly down on made bed in Southwest bedroom hands tied behind back with red
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panty hose feet together with yellow nighty semi-nude with pink sweater and bra panties below
00:46:50
butt she had a smoke and went to the bathroom before the Final Act very neat housekeeper and dresser rifled purse and
00:47:00
kitchen empty paper bag white coat in living room heat up to about 90° Christmas tree lights on hosery on
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bed driver's license gone seminal stain on or in blue women underwear chose at random with little pre-planning motive
00:47:23
factor x number eight next victim maybe you will find hanging with a wire noose hands
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behind back with black taper cord gagged then cord around the body to the neck hooded maybe will be chosen at random
00:47:43
with some pre-planning motive factor x enclosed was a poem titled o death to Nancy oh what is this this that I can
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see cold Icy hands taking hold of me for death has come you can see hell has opened its gate to trick me oh death oh
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death can't you spare me over for another year I'll stuff your jaws until you can't talk I'll bind your legs till you
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can't walk I'll tie your hands till you can't make a stand and finally I close your eyes so you can't see I'll bring
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sexual death unto you for [Music] me all right Captain before we leave before we take off for Crime con yeah
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I'm leaving get your crime Con on I'm leaving tonight I'm going I'm traveling by way of hot air balloon so it will
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take me a little longer want to drop a little recommended reading before we go I'm traveling by foot here you go this
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week we are recommending Love and Death In the Sunshine State the story of a crime by cutter wood and this story
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starts off when a stolen car is recovered on the Gulf Coast of Florida and it sets off a search for a missing
00:49:14
woman now there are three men that are named as Persons of Interest and this is her husband her boyfriend and the man
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who stole the car this is this is a mystery that going to keep you guessing I highly recommend Love and Death In the
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