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Crime garage that's enough of the business everybody gather around grab it chair Grandma beer let's talk some true
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crime the following communication was sent to k-a-k-e-tv and was titled the BTK story
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believed to be the autobiography of the killer the police were searching for complete with an outline giving the
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titles to 13 chapters of the BTK story they were one a serial killer is born two
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Dawn three fetish four fantasy world five the search begins six btk's haunts seven
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PJs eight Mo ID ruse nine hits 10. Treasured Memories 11. the final curtain call
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dusk 13 will there be more [Music] [Music] in the spring of 1989 Dennis Rader got a
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new job as a census field operations supervisor in Wichita Kansas now he liked this job for many reasons mainly
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because the job required him to be out driving around in a truck one of his favorite things was to eat his lunch in
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his truck and Scout for possible new victims he also had among other strange Hobbies
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a hobby where he would scour magazines and newspapers for ads featuring women that caught his eye he would cut out the
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images of the women he liked and he would glue them to three by five index cards
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each day he would Place one in his pocket and the card would ride along in the truck with him while he was out
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doing his job each day he would write in his journals at home and talk like the women were real so he
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would write things like drove around today drove around town today with a sexy redhead note to self if I ever
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start doing this jump off a bridge immediately in 1991 he was hired by the compliance Department in Park City as a
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compliance officer this job required him to work with code violators issuing tickets and catching dogs
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there were varying stories regarding Raider at this job some would later say that Raider used the position to bully
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people some say he was just doing his job and others even reported that Raider was nice and helpful in all likelihood
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he probably did not treat everyone the same way and he definitely harassed some women during the time when he was
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working in this position and there's one story in particular of a woman that had moved into town into Park
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City and she stated that when she moved to Park City she was single and Raider must have taken a liking tour
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because he was very helpful like seemed to be checking on her from time to time very pleasant very nice to her and he
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would see her often I think that's called stalking well when she when she got a boyfriend
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he changed his song and dance he really started harassing the woman and started harassing the boyfriend he would issue
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them tickets for very minor infractions almost seeming like he was making things
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up from time to time and she said that he often would park his truck and sit and eat his lunch where he could see the
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house where he could keep a visual monitoring of the house and maybe of her as well again that's called stalking
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regardless he seemed to like this job and for many reasons but mostly because it gave him some type of authority
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giving him a badge and some power Dolores D Davis age 62 was born in 1928 in Stella Nebraska she was raised on a
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farm now she was an excellent cook who made everything from scratch in 1961 after 12 years of marriage a son and a
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daughter D and her husband divorce now she was a fun protective and devoted mother and grandmother adored by her
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family her son and you know his her son always spoke to his mother on the phone on the weekends sometimes for hours when
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her children and grandchildren gathered for Christmas at her home in 1990 they spent much time together but one memory
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that was created during that trip was they all sat together and watched the movie All Dogs Go to Heaven uh this if
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anybody's seen this movie you'll know it's an emotional movie it did bring the family to tears now Dee had just retired
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from her job of over 25 years as a secretary for a fuel company she was passionate about animal rights issues
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and she enjoyed being a Mary Kay cosmetics sales consultant Dennis Raider had spent a couple of months driving by
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her home and seeing her when he decided that she would be a good Target well this is because BTK found her attractive
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and she lived alone in January of 1991 Dennis Raider was going to put together a plan to do a hit on her now on the
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night of the 19th Raider went to dolores's Home Dolores was home inside reading Dennis waited outside for her to
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turn off the lights before he would break in while he's out there Raider is waiting
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outside he's wondering he he cannot figure out how he's going to break into the house he had already
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checked the doors and they were locked and they were far too sturdy for him to pry them open after she turned out the
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lights Raider cut the phone line to the house he then found a cinder block in someone's backyard he carried it over
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near dolores's home he lifted it up until it was shoulder high he centered himself on a large sliding glass door in
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the back of the house Raider launched the heavy block into the air and through the window instantly shattering the
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glass Dolores ran out of her bedroom screaming she saw Raiders standing inside her home
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he told her it was cold outside and that he needed some warmth some food and some
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money he ordered her to return to the bedroom he followed behind once inside the bedroom Dennis Raider
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pulled a pair of handcuffs out of his pocket and put them on her wrist to try to calm the woman down he kept
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telling her he just needed her car keys and then he would be gone in no time once she calmed down Raider took the
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Cuffs off of Dolores and tied her hands together with rope he took a pair of pantyhose from one of the dresser
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drawers he wrapped them around her neck strangling her until she was dead blood had started to come out of her ears
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mouth and nose it took him about three minutes to strangle her Raider then wrapped her body up in the
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blanket that was on the bed and carried her body out to the trunk of her car then he went back into the home and
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collected some jewelry and clothing of dolores's he then hopped into her car and drove
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off he dumped her body in a culvert by a highway then he drove to another location and hid the trophies he had
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collected from her house in a safe spot so that he could retrieve them later then and I find this to be awfully
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strange he drove her car back to her house and put it in the garage [Music] he walked like two miles to his own
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vehicle I do find this incredibly strange but here one thing I do know about BTK is this at one of his crimes
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he actually left the gun that he used during the crime at the crime scene I don't know which crime scene that was
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and he said that he had to go back and retrieve that gun my guess is it might be this one right that he's talking or
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he's driving around and saw a bunch of cops and thought I should just go back to the house and drop off the car at the
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house well in a little behind the scenes thought here for everybody that's kind of why I picked the beer this week to be
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dimwit we have this individual Dennis Raider that likes to portray himself of a certain intellect and to be very smart
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and cunning and outsmarting the police and outsmarting his victims when in reality he's just kind of a buffoon you
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know he's just kind of yeah he's a dimwit very good so I think maybe it might be this crime where he realized
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that he had left the gun because he he dumps her body in this Culvert just to kind of conceal her and then he decides
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to go hide these trophies that he intends to retrieve later driving her vehicle back to her home
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walking two miles to his own vehicle and then once he gets his vehicle he drives
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back to her body picks it up and takes it to another location much further away he decides
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that he's going to dump her here at this new location right this is under a bridge out in the middle of nowhere
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now the next day he's still all charged up and hopped up on these fantasies and thinking about the night before
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the next day he returned to the body he placed a plastic mask over the face and put lipstick and makeup on the mask
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and then he took several photos of the body two weeks later the body was discovered
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the murder was featured in the newspaper the connection to BTK was not made according to Dennis's journals with each
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kill he was extremely paranoid after his murders each time expecting the police to show up at his door at any time
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but each time that feeling would go away after about a month or so and after the
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paranoia left each time then he would be back out trolling for victims again this murder took place in
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1991 but we're not going to hear from the BTK because he goes dark until 2004. yeah the whole time I guess living his
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life doing normal things more normal things um however it would be what brought this
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on I believe is in January of 2004 the Wichita Eagle ran a story on the 30-year anniversary
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of the BTK case right two months later in March of 2004 a letter arrived at the newspaper according to the information
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on the envelope the letter was from Bill Thomas killman the return address was 1684 South Old Manor the the address was
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fake there was right no such place in Wichita now people had always wondered if you
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think about the initials of Bill Thomas killman so that's BTK right yeah and then the other thought was was he
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playing some kind of game you know BTK would be an old man by now and the address used was 1684 South Old Manor
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right anyway inside the envelope they found photocopied snapshots of a woman who appeared to be either unconscious or
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dead she's lying on a floor it also contained a photocopy of a driver's license of a 28 year old Vicki
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wegerly whose 1986 murder had never been solved or linked to the BTK Strangler on
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the letters BTK was written at the bottom of the page there was also some type of code
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made up of letters and numbers police sent the code to code Breakers but they they came up with nothing they couldn't
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crack it well when you're stupid and you come up with a code normally it's hard for anybody to to crack it right because
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it didn't make any sense in 2000 in the year 2000 this was four four years before BTK ended his silence
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the wagerly Cold Case became hot the Wichita police detectives this is Kelly Otis and Dana gouge they were
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assigned to work on the unsolved 1986 killing of 28 year old Vicki wegerly a wife and a mother found bound and
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strangled in her home on West 13th Street now the police had found a man's DNA this was under the victim's
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fingernails and in 2003 the lead homicide detective Ken landware remember we talked about him he was one of the
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members of the Ghostbuster Squad by this point in his career he's now the lead homicide detective for the Wichita
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Kansas Police Department yeah he had the two detectives on the case test the DNA that was found landware had
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always suspected that the Vicki wegerly murder could be the work of BTK now as you know when it comes to lab
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work current cases take priority over the old one so it was not until after the first communication from BTK in 2004
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that they would get the results back well and it could have been as simple as hey we he's made contact again so they
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bumped up the priority yeah yeah they may have moved it to the the front of the line but shortly after he broke his
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silence they received the results from those tests and the profile was entered into a newly developed National Database
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of criminals now there was no match for this however the DNA test showed that the same killer had been in the homes
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where BTK strangled four members of the Otoro family in 1974 and Nancy Fox in 1977.
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but once police saw the photocopy of the pictures then the driver's license and the
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letters BTK the hunt was on so police announced the startling new development and the news media pounced on this story
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police received over 1 000 tips over the course of the first weekend of this investigation that they just launched
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now to handle the response from the public police set up a command center at a law enforcement training academy they
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needed Elbow Room for phone Banks and for computers and they just needed space to work on this thing the Sedgwick
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County Sheriff's Office assisted with data entry and research support callers gave police an overwhelming number of
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possible suspect names detective landware and crew decided suspects would be eliminated systematically and
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scientifically now the eliminators would be as follows one would be race so the DNA a profile showed the killer was a
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white male so if you weren't a white male you're eliminated right age the calculation was
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based on the idea that the killer probably would have been at youngest 18 to maybe 20 years of age when he killed
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his first known victims right the otoros in January of 74. so the killer would be
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at this time 48 years or older now incarceration was also very much an eliminating Factor because someone who
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was in jail or prison during any one of the murders was eliminated also prisoners in recent years would have DNA
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on record and police knew that btk's DNA didn't match anything in the database right the most important of all of the
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eliminating factors was of course DNA in a somewhat controversial move investigators took 1600 DNA mouth swabs
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for men mainly in and around Wichita but a few came from people living out of the
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state almost all of these 1600 people volunteered and complied to submit their DNA well another crazy thing is is now
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they're they're realizing with the research that BTK was in dormant yeah and actually lot of people at this time
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had probably forgotten about BTK the Wichita was no longer afraid of this person most people would assumed that he
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had died or moved on but yeah like you said you know he it wasn't that he wasn't dormant during this two and a
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half decades he had just simply kept a lower profile than in his earlier killings and now police had to wonder as
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did the community how many killings was he responsible for over the course of that time
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on June 9th of 2004 what police would later call Communication number three this was found at the corner of first in
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Kansas taped to a stop sign one of the documents in the package graphically described the Otoro family murders also
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there was a drawing of a nude female bound gagged and hanging from a rope with the drawing were the words the
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sexual Thrill is my bill this guy's such a douche in July workers at the public library discovered a clear plastic bag
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at the bottom of a book Return bin written on the bag where the letters BTK inside were five sheets of paper
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two of the pages detailed btk's involvement in the death of a troubled 19 year old man named Jake Allen Allen's
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death was ruled a suicide now Allen was a star athlete in high school who dreamed of being an optometrist
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Allen was picked up and arrested by police he and some buddies were out drinking and driving and they had
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alcohol in the car after his arrest he was convinced that he would never get into college and it is believed because
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of this that he decided to take his own life by lying down on the train tracks yeah yeah he was crushed almost beyond
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recognition now BTK however wrote in this communication that he had been responsible for the death
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of as he put it old Jakey after meeting him in a computer chat room and convincing the young man that he was in
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fact a private eye hunting for BTK the letter claimed that the young man Jakey had sexual perversions involving
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masturbation bondage and homosexuality and claimed Jakey agreed to help the fake private eye in his investigation to
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find BTK these of course are all lies however the police at the time did not know this
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and this was this was actually you know where I call Dennis Rader a dimwit uh this may have been a smart move on his
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part just simply because the investigation at that time was white hot right and right this this is Dennis
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Rader throwing a wrench into that well-oiled machine because then the police spent weeks focusing in on Jake
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Allen conducting interviews sifting through his computer investigating if he was the latest BTK victim but it was all
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for naught it was it was just a farce put on by Raider after he read about the boy's suicide in the newspaper now what
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might not be a phony story is that also in this communication BTK stated that he
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had some future female and maybe a child victim in mind that he had spotted them
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and had already began to troll them and he just had to quote work out the details
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[Music] [Music] alright cheers mates we're uh drinking the dimwit let's get back to the dimwit
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cheers Captain it was in October the BTK reached out again what we're seeing here
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is a frequency he can't control himself at this point right he's he's enjoying this communication back and forth too
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much at this point this communication was found in a UPS dropbox by one of their drivers again it
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was a plastic bag with the initials BTK on it inside were three note cards and on them were what BTK called his uno dos
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Trace Theory stating that the world of the BTK is based around the number three and
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triangles I could go into this it I've I I know this stuff but it makes little to no
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sense at all like you know like he would draw like a triangle and it would at one
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point put BTK police right right detectives you know or I'm sorry BTK victims police you know
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and then the other Sun heat warmth like it was just stuff that made no sense at all right
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um this communication also it contained what is thought to be pieces of the Killer's autobiography and as usual this
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was full of errors and misspellings it was now and we kind of talked about this we don't know if if he was just an idiot
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and he was had misspellings or had errors or if he did this on purpose to like throw off the scent yeah so um do
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you want me to kind of fast forward a little bit since we're on that subject yeah so yes you're exactly right the FBI
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warned the local police department to not fall for what could be what is commonly used when these guys make
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Communications is a lot of them will purposely misspell things or they'll have grammatical errors
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in this case with BTK that was the thought right that was the thought during the time of the investigation
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after he was caught and after he was uh wrote out his own confessions they saw those same the guy couldn't spell and he
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couldn't write well you might have some form of Dyslexia problem you know which would probably make him feel
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self-conscious which would probably lead him to want to feel powerful yeah you know I laughed there but I only laughed
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there because I actually think maybe he's just more impulsive and less in control of himself than he thinks that
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he is right um and that and that this bad spelling thing has something that has always been
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a part of him right now speaking of communications the next communication was as the others were strange uh this
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was a strange one and they seem to be getting more and more strange as they were getting more frequent this time it
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was a cereal box that was was found inside I'm sorry inside the cereal box they found jewelry from one of his
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victims and a little doll like a like a Barbie doll and the Barbie doll had bindings on it and it was tied by the
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neck with a to a little piece of pipe the the box also contained a note card asking a question had the officers
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received number seven from the Home Depot parking lot the answer to that question is they had knocked so
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so here's here's what he's doing okay okay he's kind of he's kind of numbering his Communications right if you just
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like he named himself now he's number in his Communications he's not he's not technically numbering them but but this
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would be the seventh communication that they received in 2004. and he's saying wait a second did you
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receive number seven from the Home Depot parking lot so seven in the same year yes seven in the same year I just want
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to be clear about that right so what what I'm getting at is this would be the seventh communication
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that they had received it's the eighth one that he has sent to them he's asking them did you get number seven because he
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knows that sometimes they receive these things and they don't tell anybody right
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his whole thing that his his whole his whole ritualistic attitude here is he has to have that broadcasted he has
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to get the notoriety for these communications he has to see his name in the paper right and because he didn't he
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wants to know well did you receive that and you're just keeping it quiet or did you not find it right
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well they had not received this and the way that this worked out was they go to this Home Depot and they're they're
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looking around they searched the store inside and out they can't find anything from BTK they can't find any form of
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communication No it should be pretty obvious once they find what they're looking for because he almost always
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puts the initials BTK on the communications so what they do is they get a bunch of the surveillance tape
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from the parking lot from the Home Depot and on one piece of footage this was from days before that they spotted where
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an SUV had pulled into the almost empty parking lot this would have been when the store was not open parking lot's
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almost empty This SUV V pulls in somebody gets out of the vehicle walks across a short way across the parking
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lot and has some kind of object in their hand and they toss it into the back of a
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pickup truck into the bed of a pickup truck the crazy thing here though Captain is
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the detectives we have landware who's been working this case for almost 20 years we have all these other detectives
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that have been hunting this madman could you imagine they're seeing what they believe to be bgk's vehicle could you
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imagine what's going through their brains they well they're looking at a shadow like a shadow figure of the guy
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that they know and believe to be BTK the guy that they've been hunting all these
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years they can they're seeing him but not his face well what they end up doing is they have
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to get the they have no idea what was thrown into the back of that truck or how they're going to find this thing
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right well maybe if they get the license plate number they could track down the vehicle they couldn't because it was too
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blurry too blurry plus if they could do that then you would think they could get
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btk's license plate number true but think of the risk that he's okay we've covered so many retail cases lately
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please upgrade your cameras people please it's ridiculous well what they did Captain was they were able to decide
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that they could determine the approximate size and wheelbase of the vehicle that the suspect was driving
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this was interesting because they actually really narrowed it down to a very few models a very few vehicles and
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models and what they were able to determine was that if in fact this vehicle was not stolen that he was
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driving his own vehicle let's say right he would be one of about 200 he would be one of about 2500 local
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residents that owned a vehicle matching this description let's go knocking on doors my friend
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well that would be an option but they actually came up with the communication before they would have to take that
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route so what happened was the manager of the Home Depot put up Flyers inside the store asking all of the employees
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did you receive anything strange in your vehicle did you find anything weird and
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you don't know what it is let us know well a roommate of a guy that worked there that owned the
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um the guy that worked there owned a pickup truck right his roommate had found a cereal box in the back of the
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dude's pickup truck Simmons host crunch it was a Special K cereal oh that's so cereal that's a garbage he was he
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assumed that it was trash and he had thrown it away he assumed right because that cereal's garbage I like Special K
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now you're garbage the trash had not been collected from the home yet so they were able to retrieve this special case
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cereal box this was recovered and inside there were there was a two-page document
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and on it was a long list of btk's projects or what he called his PJs there there was also a question and this was
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asking land where this was asking landware directly if BTK wanted to send a computer disk to
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them could they trace it and he asked them to give him the answer in the newspaper in the One ads under the
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miscellaneous section and if they can't trace it to put in the message Rex it will be okay also they should run the ad
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for several days so that BTK would not miss the ad if he were out of town or didn't pick up the paper that day please
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run the ad multiple times for me this was weird because now we have Raider wanting to start communicating by
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sending them floppy disk from computers and for the first time BTK is asking the
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police a question this is a dumb question rather than just kind of talent you know directing the conversation and
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telling them whatever he wants when your teacher tells you when they stand up at
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the front of the classroom and they say students there are no dumb questions you
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say yes there is when you're a serial killer you do not ask the cops if they can trace something
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or not the police they went ahead and ran the ad in the newspaper and their ad read Rex go ahead and send a floppy
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well on January of 2005 Dennis Rader became the elected president of council at the Christ Lutheran Church right on
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February 16th of that same year a padded envelope arrived at k-a-k-e-tv inside were more index cards and a purple
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computer desk the disc was turned over to the police analysts the disc contained one message and the message
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said this is a test see note card for further instruction the note cards said that any
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communication going forward from the killer would have a number on it that way if one was lost they would know yeah
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or if somebody else was writing to them pretending to be the BTK that they wouldn't get mixed up it only took the
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analyst a few more minutes to pull the information that they were searching for this revealed that the author of the
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test message was someone named Dennis and the owner of the computer was the Christ Lutheran Church
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now this is going to sound completely crazy for somebody that you've looked for for 20 years I mean and when you
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factor all involved you're talking about this was over a 30-year Manhunt for this
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guy right so what did they do they did a quick Google search and this quick Google search told the
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officers that Christ Lutheran Church was located in Park City right and that a one Dennis Raider was listed as the
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church's president they put surveillance on their subject but they didn't jump on him and arrest
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him right away they wanted to make sure that they had good solid evidence on this guy to connect him to BTK before
00:35:01
the arrest land where wanted DNA from Raider to tie him to the DNA that was found at
00:35:08
multiple crime scenes where BTK had killed right but how were they going to get Dennis Rader's DNA without tipping
00:35:15
him off well this is this is wild so they start doing some digging on Dennis Raider his background and his family one
00:35:24
thing that they discovered is that his daughter Carrie had attended the University of Kansas State
00:35:31
while she was there she had been treated or or received some kind of you know checkup or treatment at the health
00:35:39
clinic there yeah they took her DNA yeah so she was no longer she was no longer a
00:35:45
student there she had graduated before but they still had things that they believed that they could pull DNA from
00:35:53
so they get a court order and they go to the Kansas State University they find these items they get a court order to
00:36:00
test them for DNA and what they discover is that it tested positive that the DNA
00:36:06
that they tested was the daughter of the killer that they knew to be BTK I'm good
00:36:13
because I just hate this guy you know yeah you would I mean you and the rest of the world right he's just I
00:36:20
hate them so the the task force that we have they were worried that somehow the media might learn of Dennis Raider
00:36:27
before they could arrest him this was a concern because this had actually happened before this was when they had
00:36:34
they they had a guy that they liked as BTK his name was Roger Valdez and they wanted to get DNA swab from him
00:36:44
he was one of the few people that didn't really want to comply and give them the
00:36:49
DNA swab and it was because through the media he had heard that he was considered a prime suspect at the time
00:36:56
so they had a leak somewhere amongst this task force they were worried would Dennis Rader would this be leaked to the
00:37:03
media in Dennis Rader catch wind of this so they're going to have to move a little faster than they wanted to
00:37:08
however for Raider what the police wanted to do was map out precisely and coordinate a plan to
00:37:16
simultaneously arrest him search his home other key places and contact and interview his relatives all at the same
00:37:24
time so what they did was they organized 215 officers and agents were assembled to take to take this on well that's a
00:37:34
lot of money a lot of this was mostly for the searches that were going to be done right so now they were going to use
00:37:41
Dennis Raiders schedule against him Raider was predictable and the detectives knew this from
00:37:48
following him over the course of that surveillance they knew what time he went to work they knew what time he came home
00:37:54
for lunch every day and so on and so forth now the police knew that Raider always left his office at 12 15 pm and
00:38:02
arrived home for lunch to have lunch with his wife at 12 18 PM each day three minutes
00:38:08
as Raider drove onto Frontage Road this is off of 61st Street in Park City an unmarked police car stopped him there
00:38:19
were plenty of guns drawn on him an officer dragged him out of his truck now at that point
00:38:27
we the the officers would later say at that point we're dealing with an individual We Believe committed eight
00:38:33
homicides so we were taking no risk we we knew that he had used guns before and in previous crimes
00:38:41
so they drew guns on this guy they took no risk now Raider was handcuffed and he
00:38:46
was searched moments later Raider and landwear the guy who had been hunting him for 20 years wait did he have one of
00:38:53
those little creepy cards his little flash cards he made I wonder if he had one of those on his
00:38:59
person at that time I I don't know he's driving around with a redhead that's interesting if he still had that hobby
00:39:05
at the time um weirdo but now we have these two individuals we have the the monster and
00:39:11
the guy that's been hunting the monster for 20 years they're finally face to face with each other and they're they're
00:39:19
saying hello to one another they're calling each other Mister at this point in the back of the police car I'm not
00:39:24
calling nobody Mister police audio taped the arrest from the car um and you and used in the transport of
00:39:33
raider and took aerial photographs from a helicopter as well right they stated that he was Dennis Raider was breathing
00:39:40
hard during this time uh as were the officers and later landwair would go on record saying I cannot tell you how much
00:39:48
fun it was to finally take this guy down it was a great day for everyone in law enforcement now Bob Morton who was a FBI
00:39:57
Behavioral Analyst and detective landware they were the ones that would conduct the initial interview with
00:40:03
Dennis Rader the idea here captain was that Raider would respond to land where because he knew who he was he knew him
00:40:11
by name he knew he was active on the BTK case for so long right and Bob Morton being from the FBI while this would
00:40:19
boost Dennis Raider's ego during the course of the interview then the teams of detectives interviewed Raider about
00:40:26
the cases that they had been assigned to so we have all these murders all these homicides we have other detectives
00:40:34
working some of these now that we had some detectives during the interviews the only thing they spoke to Raider
00:40:40
about was his Communications with k-a-k-e-tv with law enforcement and so on and the sheriff's Personnel they
00:40:49
approached him about the Marine hedge and Dolores Davis homicides now you you have to keep in mind the sheriff's
00:40:57
department had to work these two homicides because they took place outside of Wichita City and not only
00:41:03
that they were abducted from from another location and then dumped elsewhere so how long did they interview
00:41:09
this creepo uh for 32 hours they interviewed Dennis Raider and they during that time they actually
00:41:16
encouraged him to sleep but he wouldn't he did nap a couple of times you know very briefly but they wanted him to get
00:41:26
a a good night's sleep and he did not want to he wanted to talk it was about three hours and 15 minutes into the
00:41:34
initial interview when Raider looked at Bob Morton the FBI agent and Morton said
00:41:40
to him say who you are and Dennis Rader answered I'm BTK now Raider's own DNA came back as a
00:41:49
match about 12 hours after the start of the interviews right right he had learned that investigators by this time
00:41:57
had already had his daughter's DNA and had linked that to him into BTK and so according to detective land where
00:42:06
at this point Raider has figured out that he has been put in a corner and he kind of
00:42:14
once that comes out with the DNA and once he realizes this is what's going on after about 12 or 13 hours into the
00:42:22
interview he's going to start telling them everything I mean everything right and to the point that he was even trying
00:42:31
to describe to them the that code remember that code that they couldn't figure out yeah the shitty code yeah he
00:42:38
was trying to tell them that the letter that he mailed to the eagle in 2004 what
00:42:43
he had used was German fractional code that he claimed that he knew from his military background and remember they
00:42:51
sent it and nobody could crack it because the code actually made no sense he he got it wrong when he tried to
00:42:56
remember it uh and he's damn dyslexia getting in the way again well in the interview process he tried to prove them
00:43:04
wrong trying to recall the code himself which he he couldn't dimwit another interesting thing though here Captain
00:43:12
was that during the course of the interview Raider repeatedly tapped on the disc on the computer disk they put
00:43:20
it on the interview table and they just kind of sat it there right in front of him okay and he tapped on it well he
00:43:26
would tap on it and if throughout the course of the interview and at some point he looked at the officer's land
00:43:32
where in particular and he asked him why did you lie to me and land Ware said because I'm trying to
00:43:40
catch you yeah why wouldn't I lie to you I'm trying to catch you yeah you killed
00:43:46
people you son of a [ __ ] yeah we're gonna lie to you well I think see that's what what's weird though is that okay so
00:43:53
something psychological had taken over with Dennis Rader and this was actually something that the FBI had recommended
00:44:00
that the police do a long time ago in their investigation what they had recommended is that they create the
00:44:07
Persona of some kind of super cop all right so that Dennis Raider would identify the the investigation into him
00:44:16
into his killings through one person and one person only that he could he could take this this detective and he could
00:44:24
put him on a pedestal in his mind he's now this super cop that is a worthy adversary of his hunting him somebody
00:44:32
that is his equal and through over the throughout the course of many years of looking at that
00:44:38
one person and having this person that he considered to be an equal he led his guard down to the point where
00:44:45
he then believed that he could trust him that his equal would be honest with him
00:44:52
and that the game of cat and mouse would continue forever well that wasn't going to be the case
00:44:58
obviously right and the FBI did say that they believed with somebody and they always believed this usually when a
00:45:06
killer is willing to communicate multiple times with the media or law enforcement is that usually they will
00:45:13
lead them to they will lead law enforcement to themselves they will get themselves caught because their ego and
00:45:19
because of their need to make these communications now Raider did voice concern about how
00:45:26
his arrest would affect his family his church and the City of Park City when teams of investigators told
00:45:35
Raider's wife and his grown son and daughter about his arrest they were in disbelief they had no idea that their
00:45:44
husband or father was this monster [Music] um they did they did exactly like they said they
00:45:53
were planning to do remember we said that they brought in 215 officers because they wanted to search his all at
00:45:59
the same time they wanted to arrest him search his home interview his relatives and they did that and some of them
00:46:06
didn't even live in Wichita Kansas so what they did was they distributed officers out to those locations they sat
00:46:13
there and waited and at at that specific time between 12 15 and 12 18 on that day
00:46:21
those officers were to go and bust into the home knock on the door do what you got to do you need to be in these
00:46:29
locations all at this same time on March 1st 2005 Raiders bail was set at 10 million dollars and a public
00:46:38
defender was appointed to represent him on May 3rd the judge entered a not guilty plea on Raiders
00:46:47
behalf as Raider did not speak at his arraignment however on June 27th the which was the scheduled trial date yeah
00:46:55
Dennis Raider changed his plea to guilty the thought here was that he would save
00:47:01
his family some anguish and shame of of going through the details of the crime that was not to be because he was forced
00:47:11
to describe the murders in detail during uh he was he was ordered to give a full
00:47:16
confession basically right now could there be some murders out there that he didn't confess to for some reason
00:47:22
possible it's possible I doubt it like you said earlier it seems to be that he wants the credit let's say that's a
00:47:30
terrible word but that's what he wants he wants the credit for his actions and for what he thinks to be some kind of
00:47:36
career or some kind of great work that he believes that he did now during the and I'm sure some people have seen this
00:47:46
by now you can actually find the full confession online I believe it's like 48 minutes long that's awful it's very
00:47:53
tough to listen to because he doesn't seem like he gives a [ __ ] he seems like he's kind of giving the weather report
00:47:59
to somebody when he talks about these crimes one thing that I know that really sickened the family his his direct
00:48:06
family especially his daughter was that one they they didn't believe he was guilty until they you know the next
00:48:15
day when they found out well he confessed to police right they're like in the DNA matches right well they're
00:48:20
like crap you know he did really do this and then once he's in court when he's going over the description of these
00:48:27
murders a lot of people thought that he may have purposely droned on about the murders of the two
00:48:37
children you know most of his victims were adults and a lot of people seem to think that he hovered around that a
00:48:43
little longer than necessary maybe he took some kind of pleasure in talking about those specific murders yeah
00:48:53
so he offered no apologies during the course of this confession and at Dennis Raiders August 18th sentencing victims
00:49:02
families made their statements after which Raider did Apologize in a rambling 30-minute monologue Dennis Raider was
00:49:10
sentenced to 10 consecutive life sentences with a minimum of 175 years to be served Kansas had no death penalty at
00:49:19
the time of the murders that he committed so he is in solitary confinement with one hour of exercise
00:49:26
per day and gets to shower three times per week and guess what that makes him what one stinky piece of [ __ ]
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