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grab a chair let's grab a beer let's talk some true crime foreign [Music] welcome back and the bombing continues
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yeah I know it sounds crazy as we have already covered so many instances of bombs exploding or being found and
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threatening letters indicating targets but the bombing would continue and by the start of 1952 the threat level or
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the terror level in New York City is at its highest in 1952 would have its share
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of bombs as well as with the years to follow and we will go through these quickly as we have a lot to get to today
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so March 19 1952 there is a bomb at the Port Authority Bus Terminal no one is injured in June the Lowe's theater is
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bombed again no one is injured December a bomb exploded in the seats at the Lexington Avenue Lowe's theater this
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injured one person police have asked the newspapers not to print any of the bombers letters and to play down earlier
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bombings because they were worried about public panic in 1953 an explosion at Radio City Music Hall
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this is when a row of seats had been rigged with explosives planted inside of the upholstery now
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this goes off this blows up there are no injuries then a bomb is found at the First Capitol Theater
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later a bomb again exploded near the oyster bar and Grand Central Terminal so this is where we see
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the bomber targeting the basically the exact same location that he had a long time ago but this time he's not going to
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put it into an ashtray he's going to put it into a coin-operated Locker and luckily there were no injuries when this
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bomb went off police described this bomb as a homemade product of a public seeking jerk
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put that on your T-shirt list Captain let's say it again so the shirt would just read on the front homemade product
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of public wait homemade product of publicity seeking jerk yeah look at what look what you did you little jerk uh
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after that an unexploded bomb was found in a rental Locker at Pennsylvania station in 1954 a bomb exploded at the
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Grand Central Terminal this time in the men's restroom injuring three men well I think what we're seeing here is
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he was looking for attention that's pretty clear the bombs weren't going off so we don't know if he wants to hurt
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somebody or just get attention but to me my gut feeling is I'm trying to get attention I'm trying to get attention to
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my cause that's not happening so now we're gonna start seeing you know placements of bombs where more people
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are going to get injured right so either way I see what you're saying there because either way if the purpose is to
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injure or kill or just seek publicity in in fact now he's achieving he's achieving both of those he's he's
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injuring people which is giving him publicity it's almost giving him forgive me for saying this credibility because
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before we have bombs going off but these things are being reported on page 28 of
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the newspaper right which is fine and I think he was fine with that but once please start saying hey stop reporting
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this stuff and now let's take the attention that he's getting and let's minimize it that's when I think the the
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bomber is going okay well if you want to minimize now I was diving on page 22 it's on page 40. you know or it's not
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even printed at all it's like okay well I guess I gotta step things up a little bit
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well after the bomb in the restroom the injured three men someone had planted a bomb in the phone booth an a phone booth
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I'm sorry there's probably more than one at the Port Authority Bus Terminal this
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bomb exploded but thankfully no one was nearby when it went off now police are having no luck finding what they've
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dubbed the mad bomber there were hundreds of of leads there were hundreds of tips and crank letters uh that they
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were following up on the detectives range far and wide checking lawsuit records Mental Hospital admissions
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vocational schools where bomb Parts might be made citizens turned in Neighbors who behaved oddly and
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co-workers who seem to know too much about bombs were getting turned in as well now a new group I know a guy
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the a new group the bomb investigation unit was formed to work on nothing but bomber leads on November 7th 1954 a
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capacity Radio City Music Hall audience of 6 200 people watched Bing Crosby's White Christmas when a bomb that had
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been stuffed into the bottom cushion of a seat in the 15th row exploded injuring
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four people yeah this uh story or part of the story is very confusing because they're going
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to take these people that got injured and they remove them take them to first aid and but they're basically going to
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just move everybody back and start the show up again yeah The Show Must Go On so apparently there's a bomb that went
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off yeah it's it sounds very strange um and you and I were talking about this earlier and we wondered if there's a
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chance that they didn't really have an understanding of what had happened you know that it was in fact a bomb you know
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and we also wondered the the injuries couldn't have been great to these people but basically it was a show must go on
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mentality where this this bomb goes off and the way that the newspaper reads is that most of the people in the audience
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didn't hear the explosion so they removed the injured people and then they just kind of they kind of clear out just
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that little section of the theater and then start the show back up again now in 1955 bombs were either located or
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had exploded at the following locations the Sutter the Sutter Avenue subway station Macy's department store the
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Pennsylvania station twice in 1955 making it four times that bombs were found or had exploded at Penn Station
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Radio City Music Hall making this the third time the Roxy Theater bomb and again the Paramount Theater so we're
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seeing places being targeted for the first time and other locations being targeted multiple times in December a
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bomb exploded in a men's room stall at the Grand Central Terminal all of the incidents from 1955 luckily left no one
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killed or even injured well it's more like sad bomber than the mad bomber regardless chaos and panic had more than
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just set in it had taken over now crazies were sending Anonymous threatening letters to the police to
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newspapers and then newspaper accounts inspired copycat bombers this really is one of the most sustained levels of
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domestic terrorism to hit an American an American city in the 20th century in 1956 at Penn Station a young man had
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reported an obstruction in one of the toilets in the men's room now the men's room attendant tried to
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clear it using a plunger the 74 year old man was seriously injured when a bomb in
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the toilet bowl exploded among the debris and the porcelain fragments investigators found a watch frame and a
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wool sock that old damn wool sock in April of 1956 the department issued a multi-state alert for a person described
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as a skilled mechanic with access to a drill press who posted mail from White Plains was over 40 years old and had a
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deep seated hatred for the Consolidated Edison Company a warning circular picturing a homemade
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pipe bomb like the bombers was distributed police distributed samples of the bomber's distinctive Printing and
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asked anyone who might recognize it to notify them a review of driver's license applications and White Plains the city
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favored by the bomber for posting his mail found similarities in 500 of them to the bombers printing the names were
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forwarded to the NYPD for investigation on the morning of August 5th 1956 police
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rushed to a residential neighborhood in New Jersey where a small explosion had damaged the kitchen of a three-story
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home the house belonged to a man named Thomas Dorney he's a security guard who worked at the RCA building in Manhattan
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bomb squad investigators found fragments of a pipe bomb that exactly matched the
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Mad bomber's devices a bomb exploding in someone's small home in New Jersey this is nothing like the
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other attacks right detectives were thinking this must be our guy so often Captain you will see when
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people are looking when the FBI or NYPD any of these agencies when they are seeking a quote-unquote Serial bomber
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usually when they offer up a profile of this person or one thing that they will do in their investigations at least is
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check local hospitals for people that might have injured themselves possibly blowing off a finger or a hand because
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you know bomb making is not it's not an easy business it's dangerous it's very dangerous you could have
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something explode so this looks very strange where you have we have a small home in New Jersey out well outside of
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the city where this bomb goes off in the kitchen and they're now thinking this is
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our bomb maker right well and he also worked at one of the buildings that there was a bomb in right well that
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that's that is correct but it's a confusing story because what's interesting here is he was a guard
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security guard at the RCA building in Rockefeller Center another guard that he worked with
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discovered a piece of pipe about five inches long inside of a telephone booth now
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he comes up and he's talking with the guy about what he found the he sees this pipe and says look I might
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find this useful later in a plumbing project so he decided to take this item home he said that he actually fidgeted
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with this item while he worked out the remainder of his shift and on the train ride home when he got home he put it on
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his kitchen table and he went to bed well at some point this bomb explodes on his kitchen table and it actually
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injured no one in the home even though it blew up most of the kitchen when he could have lost a hand or arm or
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something yeah he was fidgeting with it but his his wife and children were in the home and they were all sleeping in
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their rooms well away from the kitchen I mean if you play with it too long you might go blind
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on December 2nd a bombing at the Paramount Theater in Brooklyn left six of the theaters 1 500 occupants injured
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one of them was seriously injured now this Drew tremendous news coverage and editorial attention and the following
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day Police Commissioner Stephen Kennedy met with commanders of every NYPD Division and ordered what he called the
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greatest Manhunt in the history of the police department calling the bombers activities quote an
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outrage that cannot be tolerated he promised quote an immediate good promotion to whoever arrested the bomber
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and directed commanders to alert every member of the force to the absolute necessity of a capture
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Christmas Eve 1956 a clerk using a phone booth at the New York Public Library dropped a coin on the floor when he
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knelt down to retrieve the coin looking up he saw a maroon colored sock held to the underside of a shelf by a magnet
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wool sock yes this sock contained an iron pipe with threaded caps on each end after Consulting with other employees
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this is I hate to laugh at some of these things but when you I hate when you laugh too
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but when you look back and you're you're talking about things from the 50s like you talked about the we found it strange
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that the theater you know the bomb goes off and then they just kind of clear out
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that little spot and let the show go on I almost like picture like a little black and white movie in my mind when
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I'm when I'm telling these things because listen to this they they see this thing
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and it's found in a sock they're pretty convinced that it's a bomb so what happens is this person consults
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with the employees at the the library and they come up with a plan let's throw this device out the window
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into the park they go what do you saying I think we should take this sock and uh
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with a bomb in it and we'll throw it out into the into the Park yeah you see so the man that found this bomb in the sock
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he threw it out the window into Bryant Park and then they called The Bomb Squad bringing more than 60 NYPD police
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officers and detectives to the scene wait one second we we have a word from our sponsor sock Club a letter to the
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New York Journal was received the next month that said that the public library bomb as well as one discovered later the
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same week inside a seat at the Times Square Paramount Theater had been planted months before they were found on
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December 27th the New York City Board of estimate and the patrolman's benevolent
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Association posted twenty six thousand dollars in rewards for the bombers apprehension
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two days later on December 29th this is at the height of false bomb reports from
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theaters department stores schools and offices a note was left in a phone booth at Grand Central Terminal that reported
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that a bomb had been placed at the Empire State Building this required a search of all 102 floors of the landmark
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building also on this day a 63 year old railroad worker was picked up at Grand Central and I could not find the exact
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reasoning here but police had probable cause to detain this man for they believed he was the mad bomber now this
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man died of a heart attack while being questioned at the East 35th Street Station house after his death policemen
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continued to investigate this man but later the investigation eliminated him as a suspect okay so you're saying that
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law enforcement now to this point of the story have killed more people than the mad bomber has killed I don't know about
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that I would put the I would pin this one on the mad bomber and not the NYPD during the month of December because
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traditional means of Investigation were leading nowhere Police Captain John Cronin contacted Dr James Brussel he's a
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criminologist and a psychiatrist and he had asked him for advice on how to catch
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the mad bomber so who is Dr James Brussel he is a criminologist but more importantly a psychiatrist who had
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performed counter-intelligence work during World War II and the Korean War he was also the assistant commissioner
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of the New York State commission for mental health he has also been labeled as a Freudian related to the ideas or
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methods of Sigmund Freud about the way in which people's hidden thoughts and feelings influence their behavior
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according to Michael Canal's book incendiary psychiatrists normally evaluate patients
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and consider how they might react to the difficulties life throws their way conflict with a boss or another
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authority figures sexual frustrations a humiliation at work the loss of a parent
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as Dr Brussel read the bomber stories he began to wonder if he could reverse the
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terms of the prophecy instead of starting with a known personality and then anticipating his behavior
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maybe Dr Brussel could start with the bomber's behavior and then deduce what sort of person he might be in other
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words Dr Dr Brussel would work backward yeah reverse engineer this by letting FPS conduct
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Define his identity his sexuality race appearance work history and his personality type and most important the
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inner conflicts that led him to this violent pastime quote it was simply my own way of
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applying what I had learned about people and the years of studying and wondering
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he said and my way of taking a step on the road toward unraveling the great mystery of
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human behavior Dr Brussel called it Reverse Psychology today Captain you know we call it profiling whatever term
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you want to use it was still an untested concept back in the 1950s [Music] foreign
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[Music] hey uh so this is the way this thing goes down here Captain Dr Brussel in the
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NYPD they're going to invite several members of law enforcement to basically they're going to have an
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evening with Dr Brussel where he is going to tell them what he thinks about this mad bomber that they are seeking Dr
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Brussel explains that he has examined the crime scene photo photos and letters and he discusses the bombers metal
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working and electrical skills Dr Brussel then explains that he developed what he called a kind of
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portrait of the bomber and explained that he basically was leaning on his expertise as a psychiatrist and using
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Sherlock Home Style hunches Dr Brussels portrait of the bomber is as follows he says FP must be a
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narcissistic paranoid he deduced this from the man's manner of communication planting random bombs writing rambling
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letters demanding Justice for an unnamed wrongdoing and general attention seeking
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Mayhem Brussels would later write instead of admitting failings or weaknesses in
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himself he attributes all of his troubles to the machinations of some powerful agency
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that is out to destroy him he believed that the bomber was suffering from paranoia a condition he described as a
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chronic disorder of Insidious development characterized by persistent unalterable systematized logically
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constructed delusions based on the evidence in his own experience dealing with psychotic criminals Brussels put
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forth a number of theories beyond the obvious grudge against Consolidated Edison he believed that the bomber would
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have had a good education but probably not college that the bomber was foreign born or living in a community of foreign
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born the formal tone in old-fashioned phrasing of his letters sounded to Brussel as if they had been written or
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thought out in a foreign language and then translated into English these conclusions based on fp's odd
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handwriting in the vocabulary his use of words such as Dastardly and ghoulish LED
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Brussels to suspect that the mad bomber was probably German now based on the rounded letters of W's
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in the handwriting he believed these two represent breast and the slashing and stuffing of theater seats Brussel
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thought something about sex was troubling the bomber he believed the mad bomber to be a loner no friends with
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little interest in women possibly a virgin unmarried perhaps living with an older female relative
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probably lives in Connecticut now he based this off of Connecticut at the time had high concentrations of
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foreign-born people and many of the bombers letters were posted in Westchester County midway between
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Connecticut and New York City Brussels also told detectives that a broad study of mental patients suggested
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that 85 percent probability that the paranoid perpetrator was athletic neither overweight nor underweight and
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that he would be clean shaven tidy and polite regarding the physical sufferings the
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bomber had described in his letters Dr Brussel considered cancer but ruled it out based on the length of the bomber's
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career and the mortality rate of cancer at the time he considered tuberculosis but also dismissed this based on how
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easily easily treatable it had become he settled on heart disease as being the most likely physical suffering of the
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bomber Brussel additionally predicted that when the bomber was caught he would be
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wearing a double-breasted suit and it would be buttoned police did use this portrait to help
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them in their search for the bomber in fact they made several arrests and questioned many based off of this
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information but nothing stuck then the news media began reaching out directly to the mad bomber radio and
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newspaper reports urged the perpetrator to call in to negotiate a surrender Seymour Berkson of the newspaper this is
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the New York Journal American decided to publish an open letter to the mad bomber
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in the newspaper and it read an open letter to the mad bomber prepared in cooperation with the police department
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give yourself up for your own welfare and for that of the community the time has come for you to
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reveal your identity the New York Journal American guarantees that you will be protected from any
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illegal action and that you will get a fair trial this newspaper also is willing to help
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you in two other ways it will publish all of the essential parts of your story as you may choose to make it public it
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will give you the full chance to air whatever grievances you may have as the motive for your ex
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we urge you to accept this offer now not only for your own sake but for the sake
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of the community time is running out on your prospects of remaining unapprehended you can telephone the city
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editor of this newspaper or you can go to any police station or even the policeman on the street and tell him who
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you are in all cases you will be given the benefits of our American system of justice give yourself up now one to the
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surprise of everybody the bomber actually replies two days later yeah he wrote two Journal American I
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read your paper where were you people when I was asking for help my days on Earth are numbered most of my adult life
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has been spent in bed my one consolation is that I can Strike Back even from my grave for the
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dastardly acts against me calling me names is just frustrated stupidity and action signed FP now we
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should note captain that this is an edited version of the bomber's letter right he did also write that he would
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not be giving himself up and he revealed uh that he wished to bring the Con Edison to Justice he listed all the
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locations where he had placed bombs that year and seemed concerned that perhaps not all of them had been discovered at
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this time after some editing by the police the newspaper did publish the the letter as we read it right
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um they published this on January 10th along with another open letter asking the bomber for more information about
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his grievances now their they did receive a second letter from the bomber in in response to their
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second open letter and this one reads as follows I was injured on job at Consolidated Edison plant as a result I
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am a judge totally and permanently disabled going on to say that he had he had to
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pay his own medical bills and it Consolidated Edison had blocked his workers compensation case
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he stated go ahead I was just going to say he's given away too much information here well he he also stated that when a
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motorist injures a dog he must report it not so when an injured Workman he writes he rates less than a dog I
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tried to get my story to the Press I tried hundreds of others I typed tens of thousands of words about 800 000 words
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nobody cared I determined to make these dastardly acts known I have had plenty of time to
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think I decided on bombs were some of the things that he wrote in that second letter he did provide details about
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materials that he used in the bomb stating that he favored pistol powder he promised a bombing truce meaning he
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would leave no more bombs at least until March 1st of that year and again after some police editing the newspaper
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published his letter this time on January 15th and asked the bomber for further details and dates about his
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compensation case so that a new and fair hearing could be held well the bomber responded a third time
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and this was received on Saturday January 19th in this letter the bomber complained of lying unnoticed for hours
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on cold concrete after his injury without any first aid being rendered then developing pneumonia and later
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tuberculosis the letter added details about his lost compensation case and that the perjury of his co-workers and
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gave the date of this injury as September 5th 1931 the letter suggested that if he did not have a family that
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would be branded by his giving himself up he might consider doing so to get his compensation case reopened he thanked
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the journal American for publicized for for the publication of his case and said
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that the bombings will never be resumed so we see he almost feels relief I guess
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or that he's received some of the justice that he thinks that he deserved just by them hearing him yeah yeah them
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listening to his complaint and then publicizing his grievance against Consolidated Edison yeah but this letter
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is not going to be published until a day after New York please make a rest yes and okay so to get into that story we
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have to introduce a wonderful uh dutiful woman God bless her this is Alice Kelly
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now Alice Kelly is a clerk for Consolidated Edison who for days had been scouring company workers
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compensation files for employees with a serious health problem so the final clue
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came when police received a letter revealing that the date that had begun began sorry the Mad bombers misery right
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was September 5th 1931. almost 10 years before the first bomb was found now Brussel immediately
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ordered a search of con Ed's personal files from that era searching the final batch of troublesome workers
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compensation Case Files those these had threats that were made or implied this Alice Kelly she found a file marked
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in red with the words Injustice and permanent disability words that have both been used in some of the Mad
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bombers letters and printed in the journal American right the file indicated that a one George mateski an
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employee from 1929 to 1931 had been injured in a plant accident on September 5th 1931. several letters from mateski
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in the file used wording like the letters including the phrase dastardly Deeds the police were notified shortly
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before 5 PM that evening they initially treated the notification well first they
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got a call on the bat phone the dastardly Deeds well they initially treated this notification as just quote
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one of a number of leads that they were working on but they did ask the Waterbury Connecticut police to do a
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discrete check on this George mateski and the house that he lived in at 17 4th Street
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well after Waterbury Police went there they eventually were accompanied by four NYPD detectives and when they arrived at
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mateski's home with a search warrant shortly before midnight on Monday January 21st they asked him for a
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handwriting sample and to make the letter G he made the G looked up and said I know
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why you fellas are here you think I'm the mad bomber the detectives asked what FP stood for and then the man responded
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FP stands for fair play he then LED them to a garage Workshop where they found he's waiting for
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something way better than that they found pipes and connectors suitable for bombs these were hidden throughout as
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well as three cheap pocket watches Flashlight batteries brass terminal knobs and unmatched wool socks of the
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type used to transport some of the bombs mateski had answered the door in pajamas
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and after he was ordered to get dressed for a trip to the Waterbury Police Headquarters he reappeared wearing a
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double-breasted suit and of course it was buttoned up in the interrogation mateski eagerly explained everything his
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motive to receive compensation for his debilitating tuberculosis where the bomb making supplies were they
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were in a hidden compartment inside his home why did he resort to bombs he said that there was no other choice
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when asked weren't you worried that innocent people would be harmed he said that I used to pray no one would be hurt
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by my bombs especially on Sunday when he was in front of reporters George grinned ear to ear smiling for the
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cameras and in enjoying the uh attention as a dastardly smile uh he's he's got some crazy eyes I think
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uh he he looks a little a little gone to me in some of those pictures but it's weird because in those pictures as well
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with the reporters he's he's almost proud to be standing in front of them in handcuffs in his Sunday Best he's
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smiling he he's he's kept himself up nice on his appearance for these photographs now although the NYPD did
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officially credit Alice Kelly with turning up the clue that led to meteskey's arrest she later declined to
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claim the 26 thousand dollars in Rewards saying that she had merely been doing her job boy and isn't it possible too
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that her work could claim the reward because she was working on company time but I I believe they decline the reward
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as well and mateski admitted to placing 32 bombs now after a grand jury heard testimony
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from 35 Witnesses this including police experts and some people that were injured by the bombs he was indicted on
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47 charges of attempted murder damaging a building by explosion maliciously endangering life and carrying concealed
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weapons this would be the bombs seven counts of attempted murder were charged based on the Seven Persons injured in
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the preceding five years due to the statute of limitations in the case mateski was held at Manhattan's Bellevue
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Hospital where he had been undergoing psychiatric examination after hearing from Psychiatric experts judge Samuel
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Leibowitz declared mataski a paranoid schizophrenic and stated that quote he was hopeless and incurable both mentally
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and physically and found him legally insane and incompetent to stand trial the judge committed mateski to the I'm
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probably not going to get this right here Captain I'll give it a shot go for Matawan Mateo one there we go we'll give
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it Mateo One hospital for the criminally insane this was in Beacon New York [Music]
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I guess mateski was only expected to live a few weeks due to his Advanced tuberculosis but mateski had to I mean
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it was so bad he had to be carried into the hospital at this time then after a year and a half
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keep in mind he's he's actually receiving treatment for this now that he is locked up right so he's receiving
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treatment for his illness but he's also receiving treatment for his mental health as well
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a newspaper article this was written 14 years later remember he was only expected to live a few weeks
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an article written 14 years later described the then 68 year old mateski as quote vigorous and healthy looking
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they stated that mateski was a model inmate and he had caused no trouble he was visited regularly by his sisters he
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was living with his two sisters when he was arrested which is crazy that that was in the profile possibly living with
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the older female relative I mean I find that fascinating well you know who else he was occasionally visited by while he
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was there was Dr Brussel himself uh to whom he would point out that he had deliberately built his bombs not to
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kill anyone in 1973 the United States Supreme Court ruled that a mentally ill defendant could not be committed to a
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hospital operated by the New York State Department of Correction Correctional Services unless a jury finds him
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dangerous now since mateski had been committed to to this hospital without a jury trial he was then transferred to
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the Creedmoor Psychiatric Center their doctors determined that he was harmless and because he had already served
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two-thirds of the 25-year maximum sentence right he would have received had he had a jury trial mateski was
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released on December 13 1973 with the single condition that he make regular visits to a Connecticut Department of
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Mental hygiene clinic now interviewed by a reporter upon his release mateski said that he had sworn
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off violence but reaffirmed his anger and resentment toward Consolidated Edison mateski returned to his home in
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Waterbury where he died 20 years later on May 23 1994 at the age of 90. now although mateski's bombs never killed
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anyone and he states that he built them so that they would not kill anyone and it was more than the police call it
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a miracle that none of the bombs ever killed anyone and they stated that it was more because of strange luck that
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they hadn't killed anyone rather than fair play overall that praying he was doing you know yeah who makes a bomb
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sets it up well they actually make the bomb so it doesn't really hurt people but it might hurt people then you put
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the bomb into play and then you sit around praying the whole time that it doesn't hurt anybody well I think a lot
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of these actions are going to reaffirm the fact that he was probably the diagnosis was correct of him being a
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paranoid schizophrenic um According to some investigators both the Zodiac Killer and Ted Kaczynski aka
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the Unabomber uh were both somewhat inspired by George mateski the who would be known as New York City's mad bomber
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before we leave you today here's a quote from George mateski one thing I can't understand is why the
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newspaper labeled me the mad bomber that was unkind [Music] well at least they're not sending bombs
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to your house you know so we have any recommended reading going with a little recommended listening this week I want
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to recommend everybody a band called two bit two-bit is a great rock band out of
00:42:09
Cincinnati Ohio and their album titled acoustic is now available on iTunes Spotify Google Play and Amazon if you
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love rock music as I do check out one of my favorite songs of theirs I love simple life and there's also another
00:42:24
great song called MJ Fox so check that out great band called two-bit and we'll post a link on our Instagram and if you
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care of yourselves be good be kind and don't let it [Music] [Applause] [Music]