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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] so I've been approached with a very
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interesting theory on the jod hen tro case mhm so we covered that what the beginning of
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May well you know so jod was this woman that 25 years old roughly all indications was that she was
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abducted just outside of her apartment in the early morning hours back in 1995 so this person that approached me with
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this Theory says hey look this is not just a theory it's also something that I have some firsthand knowledge about and
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I'm like firsthand knowledge about what you know and they say well I'm like 99% sure I know who abducted and and killed
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jod hosen tro for people who haven't listened that's episode 2000 that's episode 208 209 did you say
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2000 in the year 2000 I don't know that we'll make it to episode 2000 it's been a very long weekend happy 4th of July so
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okay so here here's here's the story well let's let's go back just a little bit because we've been contacted
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by victims family members friends um people that have you know we've reported on people as
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suspects and then we get contact by them we've been contacted by some of the suspects yes yeah and it's um if you
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would have told me when we started years ago that you know that that would happen
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I I wouldn't expect it I mean I'm I'm shocked by the amount of people that will contact us I I'm also shocked by
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the amount of people that are willing to talk with us uh even after you know I call them a piece of [ __ ] well I
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wouldn't I wouldn't have believed that would have happened in a million years because I mean we're talking when we
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first started doing this we just we just sat down in a garage cracked a few beers
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hit record we didn't actually even think anybody would would listen let alone let
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alone call us or email us but this is a tricky thing to talk about Captain because if I'm going to reveal this
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Theory I have to really throw somebody under the bus here but this is all this is all information coming from a source
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this is not my opinion this is not me saying this is what happened right basically what you're saying this is a
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theory there's this what I've been told right this we don't have the evidence to
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back this up so this this person tells me that in 1995 that they moved to Forest City Iowa
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and started working for at a company that's like within the Winnebago Industries okay so like when Winnebago
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is this huge company and they probably have smaller companies that do work for them right um he says that when he
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started working there 1995 this is the same year that that jod was abducted he says that he worked with two
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other people in his Department one of them was a a man by the name of Randy and I'll just go ahead
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and leave his last name out he's it's easy to find and you you'll know who this guy is in a little bit and then
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there was another guy there that worked with Randy and his name would have been we'll call him Todd okay so Randy and
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Todd already work in this small department at this company that works does work for w wneo okay you follow me
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so far MH when this guy gets to work now his department is three members three men strong
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okay anyway he says Randy was his manager and had trained him on his job mhm and and Randy lived in Mason City
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which is about 45 minutes from Forest City so remember jod lived in Mason City MH and this person went on to tell me
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that Randy lived quote very close to Jody's apartment that in fact Randy lived on Kentucky Avenue which is the
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same street as the key Apartments where jod lived now immediately when he's telling me this
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story I I already knew who this Randy guy is that he's talking about now Randy is the guy that was driving past the key
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apartments on his way into work that morning mhm when he said that he saw a light colored van possibly white with
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its flashers on so all these years that's been a suspicious vehicle let's say right and this
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case the problem with that statement according to this person to the source that I spoke to he says that in Randy's
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statement that he gave to police and gave to the media he says that I saw this van on my way into work that day
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this individual said Randy was not at work that day the other guy that he worked with
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was not at work that day either so these two individuals were absent from work they were both supposed to be
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there um but they didn't show up to work he remembers this specifically because he was he said he was look I was pissed
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off we we have three men in our department I'm the only one that showed up that day I worked my ass off that
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day and he didn't know much about Jody who's and Tru he and this is where it's going to get a
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little thicker here he says that that's what she said he had overheard Randy and
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Todd discussing a woman named Jodie mhm many times and he said that they they joked
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and laughed about harassing her remember there was some rumor that she might have been
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stalked that she had a stalker right he said that they joked about uh following her when she would go out jogging and
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that they would put notes and flowers on her doorstep and he didn't put two and two
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together he didn't know even though jod was this uh kind of famous person because she was on the
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news she was a news anchor he didn't know he didn't put it two and two together that Jody that they were
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talking about at work was the news Anor all he knew because he he started working with these guys about 2 or 3
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months before she was abducted right and he had just moved to the area himself he
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he was not from Iowa so when he gets there he hears the two guys that he works with talking about harassing this
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young woman named jod and all he can remember is it's jod and she has a what he said was a funny last name he didn't
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at the time didn't recall what the last name was so he says about a day after the
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abduction you know this is all over the news so the day of the Abduction the two
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guys that he works with don't show up they don't show up and they were supposed they were supposed to be at
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work right so then the following day one they're supposed to be there and two we
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have Randy who's on camera saying look I saw this vehicle on my way into work mhm
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and he didn't go to work that day which is weird cuz he he's putting himself at the crime scene right not only at the
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crime scene but roughly about the time that we believe the abduction took place right so he says well I said well I need
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a little more information this this this sounds interesting I don't know why the
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guy would say he was on his way to work and never show up to work I said but you
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know the the harassing a person named jod interesting um he says okay so Randy and
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Todd they would carpo to work together so I'm assuming Todd lived somewhere near jod as well mind you this is a 45
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minute drive to and from where they work in Forest City so he says this Todd guy owned a
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dark or it was either a dark brown or black pickup truck which is also strange because one of the vehicles that was
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rumored to have been following her when she was jogging was a black or a dark colored pickup
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truck and he said the way that this worked would be you know some days Randy would drive
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the two in in his car and other days this Todd guy would drive in and they would show up in his
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truck he thought from what he had overheard them talking about at work he thought that they were stalking or
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harassing their words I think were harassing this girl uh after work you know that they would go home and they
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would follow her in in the truck or she would be gone and he states that he believes that they knew her schedule
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somewhat because they were leaving notes and flowers and things at her doorstep and he believes that they were leaving
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these at times when they knew they would not be spotted by her that she wasn't home right you know and they could just
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go drop these things off so anyway he says he doesn't know anything about Jodie at the time he doesn't know
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anything about his coworker Randy or Todd other than they have these vehicles oh I forgot to mention the vehicle that
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Randy owned is a similar description as the one that the jogger remember there was a jogger that that was jogging by
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that morning and said that hey I jog this route every morning this was the for you know I I saw a strange vehicle
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rushing out of the parking lot and I believe it was I think the jogger described it like a
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blue small car like blue foro maybe mhm and it's he said that according to this Source Randy had a vehicle that matched
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that description so he said shortly after the Jodie thing these guys they had a little little TV
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at work that one of them had brought in to work yeah he said that he got further
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pissed off at them because not only did they both miss work on that day that I think it was a Tuesday that she was
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abducted but not only did they both miss work that day but for the next couple days he said all they seemed to do was
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sit around that TV and watch TV you know he's doing all the all the hard work himself and he didn't think too much of
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it at the time he didn't know that Randy had given an interview you know that he
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that Randy had spoke to the media or to the police department he didn't know he didn't have any idea that Randy could be
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connected to this jod case you know either as a suspect or just an eyewitness who saw a light
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colored van then what happens is remember they covered Jody's case on America's Most Wanted well this guy
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tells me he says look America's Most Wanted was one of my favorite shows back then so he goes about a month after the
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case took place I'm watching America's Most Wanted and they cover jod hen tru's case and he says oh I when I saw
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America's Most Wanted and they said jod who's in true he said that's the funny last name that I remember these guys
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talk about at work mhm and then he sees his boss Randy on the TV saying yeah I was driving to work that day and I went
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past the key apartments and I saw a white or light colored van with flashing lights and I remember it because I
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thought it was a a police officer so I slowed down I was rushing on my way to work and so he goes he he says holy crap
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first of all he checks out the date and he he goes first of all Randy was not at work
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that day number one number two he goes up to him and he goes you were on TV I saw you on America's Most Wanted uh last
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night right why wouldn't you why didn't you tell me that you were going to be on
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he considered this guy to be like a work friend they weren't you know best friends or anything like that but you
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have your work friends that you you shoot the [ __ ] with and stuff like that and he goes man that's like my favorite
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show I see you on there but I have a bit of a problem with seeing you on there you didn't go to work that day and where
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was Todd Todd didn't go to work that day either now by the time that this individual had confronted Randy about
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being on America's Most Wanted this Todd guy had already quit working there mind
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you this is weeks or a month after the actual abduction right so Todd no longer worked
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there he said that and now this is according to him that Randy in kind of a roundabout
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way threatened him not so much about threatened this eyewitness though or the guy that's telling you the story correct
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he he kind of said something about it sounds like and I it sounds like the two just say it okay it sounds like the two
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of them smoked pot together from time to time okay nothing wrong with that so he
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said that when he got the threat from Randy Randy implied that the threat pertained to their their pot smoking you
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know if you tell anybody what you know about you know if you if I find out you've told anybody and he said he said
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the way that Randy worded it to him made it sound like he was talking about the about the marijuana but he inside felt
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that Randy O Okay knows that I know that he's lying about this jod thing that he
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might have had something to do with it and this this is his roundabout not so obvious way of threatening my life if I
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snitch on him for what I know about him not being at work right and there's no explanation on why he's not at work he
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he's not given an explanation no mhm so he told me that what the way that this went down he was terrified of Randy and
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this other guy even though this other guy didn't work there anymore he was terrified of these guys so was he
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terrified before no he he was kind of he was kind of friends with Randy right before and it was until he saw Randy on
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America's Most wed that they were no longer friends that he's like holy crap this guy might have done something here
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right and him and Todd might have done it together so which would make a little more sense because you would think
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that uh she would fight so it'd be easier to take take her down with two if this story story is true okay if this
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story is true this means two things though that Randy not only lied about being at work to his work and to the
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media and to the police but he lied to his wife about going to work and I say that because this individual told me
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that Randy and his wife shared a car so on the days that he drove to work he would have to tell her hey I got to go
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to work today and I'm going to pick up Todd on my way in and so his whereabouts then become very tricky because where
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were you that day for the entirety of the day right and why did this Todd guy all of a sudden quit working there now
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this guy tells me he says look after Randy threatened me I didn't talk to him again after that I stayed out of his way
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if he was in the room I put my head down he said I only worked there another few
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weeks or maybe a month while I looked for another job because I wanted to get away from this individual who I was
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afraid of right and I said to him I said well look what do you want me to do and
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he said he said I I just want you know some somebody to look into this and I said well I will but the the issue here
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is law enforcement are the ones that need to look into this have you told law enforcement yeah and he states that he
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he did it took him some time he ended up moving out of state and once he moved out of state he did contact
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the police department as well as some other media groups like if uh he contacted you know like things like
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Crimestoppers and there is a website I think it's is it f jodi.com right or jodi.com something like that well and he
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could have contacted America's Most Wanted he he told me I said I said look for me to believe you first of all I
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want to know that you've I'm not the only person you've told this story to because here we are sitting here 20 some
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years later what took you so long I understand being afraid and he said look once I moved if I right so basically
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he's saying it didn't really take me that long I told people he said he told a lot of people and he said that the
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problem being is that okay so I couldn't get from him if he specifically discussed this with a
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detective that worked Jody's case I couldn't get him to say that what he kept saying was anytime that I saw the
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case on TV I contacted whatever number they posted there right so on good for him right so on the anniversaries of her
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disappearance uh he contacted you know whatever number they posted on on the TV screen and he's done that on several
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anniversaries he said and he said that's why I'm calling you that's why I'm talking to you now because I came across
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your show that covered it and I just told myself a long time ago even though I was afraid at the time now the best
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thing I can do is anytime somebody brings up this case I'm going to tell them what I know well here's here's one
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of the problems with it um if Randy was his higher up right MH that you know Randy claims that he went to work that
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day depending on how they keep records of uh how they log in right or you know how they their time cards and all that
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stuff if he's somewhat of a supervisor he probably has the authority or to know how to get that fudge the time cards
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right and that establishes your own Alibi so so that that is one of the problems well here so here's what I did
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because before I before you and I decided to to talk about this this is the first time I'm hearing about it too
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so yeah well the reason being is I wanted to make sure that at least portions of this man's story that I
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could verify are in fact true you know because anybody could email me or you and say look I know something about this
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case and just actually we've had some real off-the-wall stuff with uh didn't who was the uh somebody told us
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that like somebody famous like Brad Pit Brad Pit had was involved in one of the crimes we covered right yeah boys on the
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tracks which we know is not true is just some well we don't know that for sure that's true know that for we can't
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account for Brad Pit for that day yeah uh that's no but you know and and then hopefully we get to share some more
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because uh some of the stuff that has been presented to us is is normally interesting stuff for the most part it's
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not um you know Captain mccrazy right it's normally like there is some some something there and sometimes they just
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know something that sometimes they're adamant that you need to hear one piece of evidence right and
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then sometimes they'll tell you like it's this big aha moment and you think yeah I kind of read that somewhere too
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so chances are law enforcement knows whatever you're trying to tell me I would say that this to me out of all the
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things that I presented you know like you said like the most people when they talk to us or tell us a theory or some
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information that they know on case you're expecting this big aha moment right and it never really comes it never
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really happens uh you know nobody's ever handed us a Smoking Gun per se right we'd love to solve a case um and and
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we'd love to been a part of just like bringing a case to light to the point where gets people talking and it gets
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solved even if we're not directly responsible well I like that this has been according to him it's been reported
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multiple times so I felt fine throwing it out there he did say that at one point this was a theory that was
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discussed on the fine Jodie website right um and he he contacted them so that's why it was a topic of discussion
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on there right now he's not outwardly telling me that these two individuals did it but he's
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say saying that if he had to pick somebody it would be these two because they neither them were at work that day
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where they said they were going to be and then Randy injects himself into the the investigation into the case yeah so
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just to to play Devil's Advocate though this guy's dates might be wrong on when Randy was at work and when he wasn't at
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work I agree I agree so so that's one point of Playing devil's advocate the other thing too is that um you work with
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a guy for a short amount of time it seems like on some level you have a Fallout and now you're coming out and
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saying hey this is kind of suspicious so I mean you got to take all this information with a grain of salt but it'
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be interesting if there was a way to find records for these two individuals if they never made it to work why well
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and I want to tell you Captain I did do my due diligence because here's the I hope you cleaned up after here's the
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first thing that I do like so it when this individual gave me this information one I I need to figure out
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he is in fact who he says he is right rather than just going oh you're Tom from Texas okay Tom from Texas I believe
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everything you told me I make them uh Skype and then uh make them take their shirt off just in case they're wearing a
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wire well here's what here's what I can tell you uh regarding the information that he gave us and what we just covered
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I did do some checking this guy is who he says he is and I was able to verify that this individual that gave me this
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information and this Randy individual both worked for that company that he said uh the the name of the company that
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he gave me I I was able to verify that they both worked there during the June month of 1995 MH so some of his story
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checks out what stuff I'm able to check out from from my seat here in the garage
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that portion of the stuff checks out very curious to see if somebody could get a hold of the the time cards punch
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cards or if it was a computer system right or maybe Randy's wife is not his wife anymore maybe it's an ex-wife maybe
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she knows something well this is just another example of keeping uh case in the spotlight I think and Jody's case is
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is a very um kind of famous case in in the whole state of Iowa right and it's it's one that I don't think is going to
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go away from the spotlight I think it will always be it's like I said it's one of those cases in Iowa where everyone in
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Iowa has heard of this case everyone has a theory or speculation some thoughts on
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this case and it was just interesting to think about this one from a different perspective MH I think the the the
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connection is weird and interesting this individual that that claims to seen something this whole time
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have we been looking for the wrong vehicle yeah I wonder why they thought it was so funny to harass her like or
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how that even started look I I will say this I this individual that told me the story I believe I believe this story
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that he told me because like I said I was able to verify some of it but but what I can't
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verify is there a chance they were talking about a different woman you know what I mean like H chances are probably
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not they're from the same town right you know I mean she's a young attractive female but it's but what I'm
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saying is I just wonder you know did you asked this individual like do you know why they harassed her or why how it even
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started he didn't seem to know why I did ask him he because he said that it from
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his understanding these two guys had worked together for a while right and by by the time he shows up they already it
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was a Twan Department that was EX extended to three people mhm it's a growing department so these two guys
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could have worked in the department by themselves just the two of them for quite some time he said that once he got
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there they were already talking about this like this was something that had been going on for a while for the two of
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them if if she lived close I just wonder if it's some situation where she was out
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running or something and he goes to pick up you know his buddy to go to work and
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he's driving the car by and she kind of gets freaked out a little bit thinking the car is falling her and he's like
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lady I wasn't falling you I was just picking up my buddy right and then they thought that was really funny you know
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and like oh well let's just keep messing with her I'm just saying it's a weird thing to start and not just one person
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if it's just one person then you're kind of a you're a freak look if you're going
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to somebody's house late at night and you're peeping in the windows you're a freak don't do that but what I'm saying
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is if one person did that I could see I have this fascination with her so I'm going to follow her why she jogs I'm
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going to leave some gifts for her right mhm that's if it's one person right you're just a weirdo that has some
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Obsession where where it doesn't make much sense in my head is both people or or was it mainly one and the
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other one was just kind of in on the I don't know that he that he knows the answer to that question because when
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I asked you see where well you see what I'm saying though right right but no that and I know and that's why I asked
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him I said why why her why did they pick her if they were in fact harassing uh her or or any woman at all why did they
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pick her and he said look I I can't I don't know uh I didn't have direct conversations with them I only overheard
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them talking about her and then what's your followup question I just want to I want to see your interrogation skills
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the the best answer he could come up with was that they had seen her on TV okay which which is obvious right you
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say you you know you son of a [ __ ] you tell me tell me right now the here's the
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other thing though Captain we we can we're only left to speculate as to why her and I think the answer of her being
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on TV is a good one and I think that's the start I think what happens here is you have a a young attractive woman
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who's on TV and by the way she lives oh I would I would say that it it would be a stretch to believe that it would take
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5 minutes to drive from this one individual's house to the key Apartments I think that it might just be happen
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stance that that that one of these individuals goes look there's this I Got This creepy fascination with this woman
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who's on TV right she happens to live about a two or three minute drive from me it's convenient for me
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to watch her right and oh by the way my creepy buddy he's got a similar you know it it could start off
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as as as as something somewhat innocent of going hey have you ever seen that that girl on the news oh man she's
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goodlooking blah blah blah or she leaves for she leaves for work the same time we
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do guess what I saw her over the weekend cuz I live right around the corner I guess from her and uh I saw her she was
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jogging in a pair of shorts and a tiny little you know what I mean starts off as something dumb like that and then
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next thing you know the word innocent though no right right what I what I meant by that is there's a chance that
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when this before this Fascination started mhm it was just a simple innocent thing as somebody seeing
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somebody on TV that they find attractive is what I meant by that I think once the
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Talk starts happening and next thing you know you find yourself in a dark colored
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pickup truck and you're following the woman as she's jogging and you're leaving things on her
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doorstep innocence has been gone for quite some time by this time yeah and if you're armchair
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detective take a little time to look into this Theory and maybe uh see if you could link some more things together and
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maybe this becomes a solid lead for law enforcement well and I do want to say that I appreciate this information
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making its way to us however I stopped the the story at the very beginning and said look have you contacted if you
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think this is something real and legit have you contacted law enforcement because I don't want to know unless this
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story has already been passed on to the proper people right so if anybody has any more information about Jody's case
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you can contact the the Mason City Police Department is the the agency investigating her abduction and you can
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contact them or we have a number from the fine jodi.com website yeah so you can contact fj.com or you could call
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97458 Jodie j o di and that's an anonymous tip line correct yeah yeah so if anybody has any information keep in
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mind jod still has family out there that are Desperately Seeking for answers to her
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case [Applause] the