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foreign [Music] right at the top of the show let's get into some more information that the
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Akron Police have stated publicly Taylor was dating someone at the time she disappeared detectives told the
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Beacon Journal that this young man was cooperative with their investigation so the young man that she is dating at the
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time that she vanished this young man was helpful and Cooperative to the detectives and to their investigation
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on the flip side of that coin there was an ex-boyfriend and this guy was not cooperative
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the investigation initially focused on him and detectives searched his car and used special chemicals to search for
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bodily fluids although the report is that they found nothing then the ex lawyered up his attorney
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said his client spoke to detectives and gave a statement in which he denied any involvement in Taylor's disappearance
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Lieutenant Rick Edwards of the Akron PD told NewsChannel 5 that police were continuing to try to obtain information
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from this man but the Beacon Journal reported in 2014 that the police interviewed or tried to interview
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two men who were close to Taylor one reportedly struggled while taking a polygraph test and the other has refused
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to cooperate both men have lawyers and both men are no longer talking with investigators and
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it sounds like maybe one of them wasn't really talking much to begin with and just like the old Native American
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proverb says beware the man that does not speak and the dog that does not bark here in this situation the man that does
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not speak means one of these guys that refuses to speak with the police with no news of Taylor theories abounded
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could she have stepped out of the house with no shoes to make a call and been grabbed had
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someone been watching the house and was aware that she would be there virtually alone that night
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had someone come to the door and grabbed her when she opened it did someone come looking for her there
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or did she leave the house on her own volition there were no answers and of course
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police weren't talking about their investigation two weeks after Taylor went missing
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Taylor's cousin the Reverend Sharon Wilson said she believed her relative was being
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held captive by someone somewhere we don't know if that was just wishful thinking or based on specific
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information Crime Stoppers announced a reward for tips as to Taylor's location now but
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what a sad world we live in that somebody would hope that their loved one was being held
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captive somewhere and not dead somewhere right and I think I think that's part of
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you know the news coming out of Cleveland just days after Taylor went missing now Taylor she missed Mother's Day in
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May of 2013 she never missed spending this day with her mother and all of her 19 years of age about a month after
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Taylor went missing her ex contacted police and reported that a group of people riding in three different cars
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had threatened him outside of his family member's house this police report was filed on June
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15th and indicated that the persons named by the ex as quote threatening him included members of Taylor's family but
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the Robinsons and Rutgers never came out publicly well this goes back to my um remember my game show about the killer
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clowns where you go around and you you rough up these possible suspects and we get some
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answers I I think that's probably what was happening on some level that they've talked to police police have
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then tried to reach out to these ex-boyfriends or or people that are connected and they're not talking or
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there's some confusion about the polygraph and you hear these rumors at some point you're like well let me talk
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to them because maybe I could get him talking so I think that's probably what it was
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well I don't know what happened but what I wanted to make sure that I pointed out
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in all of these years and all the opportunities that the Robinson Rucker family has had
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they've been nice enough to not name these individuals publicly right or accuse these individuals
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mention them by name so I think there should be something said for their character for
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choosing to not do that because they very well could have right in August of 2013
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the family received tips this is quote from people who knew what was going on with Taylor these tips are that Taylor
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had been the victim of Foul Play and Searchers should be looking in a heavily wooded area around First Energy
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substation and the 700 block of West Thornton Street in West Akron some pants and a sheet were found in
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this area they followed up on this anonymous tip or I guess it's not Anonymous but this weird tip that comes
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in but it was determined that they likely came from a nearby homeless encampment
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they didn't belong to Taylor and there was no sign of Taylor at this location but on September 9th 2013 four months
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after Taylor vanished from the home where she was working her family's worst fears came true two hikers and some
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stories say they were joggers we're enjoying some outdoor time in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park this is a
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massive Federal Recreation Area North of Akron they came across a recognizably human
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jawbone and nearby they found the rest of a skull the hikers reported this to the National
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Park Service there is a ranger station about two miles down Riverview Road the FBI evidence Response Team arrived
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on site and began Gathering evidence in the woods early reports were just that human remains were found
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and the body was so decomposed as to they couldn't they couldn't distinguish whether what they were looking at was
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male or female and the tattered remnants of what appeared to be some type of clothing was
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found and they believed this to be a bra now although initially police believe that the body was too decomposed to be
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Taylor okay so she's missing for just four months by this time and I I say just four months but that's in regards to
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the remains that were found they're saying we don't think that Taylor was gone long enough for this to be her
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right but dental records quickly confirmed that the body was that of Taylor Robinson no weapon was found at
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this scene and we should also state that not all of the remains were found this is a four-month difference from the time
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of The Disappearance to when she's found and we know that scavengers and things like that in the area can compromise
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this scene let's talk about where Taylor was discovered although the remains were within Cuyahoga Valley
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National Park they weren't located in the middle of miles of dense forest in fact the bones were found in what is
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reported to be the valley picnic area off of Riverview Road in Boston Township they were found you know kind of kind of
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in the woods but not deep back in the woods this is one of the 23 townships in Summit County
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located between Akron and Cleveland only about 1300 people reside in this town the majority of the land appears to be
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part of that Park the picnic area is on the western side of the portion of Riverview Road that
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connects Everett which is where the Everett ranger station is that we pointed out and
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peninsula lies about one mile south of route 303. the picnic area is basically a visible
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patch of open space on Google Maps admits miles and miles of heavily forested land it lies about 150 feet off
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of Riverview Road accessible by a small access road that appears to be unpaved the upshot is that this small picnic
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area is not somewhere that someone looking to hide a body would stumble upon they would almost certainly
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have to have been there before quote we're not talking about a distance where someone gets on the highway and
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jumps off end quote this is from Akron PD detective Gary Shady he goes on to say that this was a pretty
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long ride the location of her remains was more than 15 miles away from the point where Taylor was last seen
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Taylor's remains were found to the north of this picnic area just off of a hiking
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trail and what the Beacon Journal described as a Thicket of woods the area is sloped and heavily covered with trees
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and vegetation the hikers had stumbled on the bones when they ventured off the trail besides the bra no other remnants
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of clothing or other items were found according to that newspaper bones were found for several days of searching
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scattered around a wide area and as said Taylor was identified by The Summit County Medical Examiner via
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dental records on September 11th her bones were then sent to an anthropologist at Mercyhurst University
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in Pennsylvania to try to determine the cause of death this means that whatever happened to Taylor
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was not immediately apparent from her skeletal remains Chief ranger Chris Ryan said quote at this point we do not know
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how the remains ended up to be there whether or not they were dropped off there or even if there was a potential
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homicide there we don't know and indeed Captain Daniel zapelli of the Akron PD said that on September 12th
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quote it's too early to rule as a homicide he said the case was being investigated as a suspicious death the
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FBI returned to the picnic area where Taylor was found for several days that week continuing to locate bones and
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additional evidence that spokespeople would not discuss well I want to stop you here and just and I don't want to
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spend too much time on on a soapbox but we've had a couple cases lately of these suspicious deaths and you have law
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enforcement that comes out initially and says we don't want to rule it anything we
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don't want to roll it a homicide we don't want to roll this and I've been seeing that law enforcement
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and and the detectives have been getting a lot of Kickback for that in these cases that have been hitting the news
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lately I think it's just the responsible thing to do like if you don't have the evidence to rule it one way or the other
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why would you come out and and and make those statements to the public well yeah I mean their their
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whole job is and in determining and labeling things is based off of evidence well and their job is to label something
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or call something not what it is based off of evidence that does not exist is incredibly irresponsible and in fact
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you're you're not doing your job I mean right their job is to get it right it should be reprimanded for doing so right
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their job is to get it right not to get it as quickly as possible yeah they're not the media they're enforcing the laws
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well the wait hold on my the media's job isn't uh to be as quick as possible their job is to get it right as well
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we hope so right but it doesn't appear that that seems to be their top priority now in January of this year and January
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Captain the garage received an email we received dozens and dozens of emails every week but this one stood out the
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email was from a longtime friend of the show Rachel who works up in Northern Ohio she has worked with someone and
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they thought that they could get some help from True Crime garage the person seeking help was a guy named Tim
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Tim fired off a friendly and informative email introducing himself and his line of work and professional background
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Tim has extensive experience as an investigator Tim asked if we could meet the next time he would be in town in our
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area in Columbus months went by and it came time for our arranged meeting during the passing time covid-19 was
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spreading across the states and the nation and shutting down businesses this forced us to call an audible but we
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were able to keep the meeting this was the first business meeting in my lifetime that involved me wearing a mask
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and gloves and did not involve the usual handshake instead we greeted one another with a
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weird elbow bump and shared a laugh as that is the only real normal way to finish off an elbow bump greeting
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Tim is a gray-haired man who speaks very matter-of-factly he's a straight shooter but chooses his
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words and polices them carefully Tim knows from his background something that gets lost on most of us that words have
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real meaning and words also have real consequences in his work it's the same as ours here at the garage but sometimes
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on a heightened level there are victims out there that need to be considered and
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respected and there is the Integrity of an investigation and it would be rude to
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the victims and harmful to the investigations to not choose your words carefully
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Tim demoff is a private investigator and he is the president of a private security company and former Akron Ohio
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police detective I asked him several questions and I was impressed with his knowledge
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and how motivated he is in helping victims he explained that sometimes he is hired by victims family searching for
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answers and sometimes he is doing pro bono work now Tim has that little thing inside of
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him that all of the rest of us have that thing when you see a case in the papers or you hear
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about it on the news and you just can't shake it it sticks with you Tim said sometimes when that happens he
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will actively seek out a case that he can't shake and he and his firm sacs Consulting will
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take on a Case his reason for wanting to meet with True Crime garage well he was
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looking for new and interesting ways to get some cases back in the spotlight out
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to the public the type of cases that the captain and I gravitate toward solvable cases that
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just need a little push they need that tiny missing tidbit of information and someone out there has it
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so we discussed several cases some from down here in Columbus but most of them in the Cleveland and Akron areas
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Tim was passionate about the cases he has worked Taylor Robinson's case instantly fascinated me
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with little information I started seeing very easily how this case could be solved if we just had that one little
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piece we elbow bumped again and parted ways we agreed we would meet again after I had some time to
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review the case Tim told the garage he will talk Taylor's case anywhere anytime with anyone he has that driven
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and passionate about solving Taylor's case and more importantly getting answers for Taylor's family and mother
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that meeting took place last week armed with questions and Tim armed with a good
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sized case File we sat down I first wanted to know how and when Tim became involved in
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Taylor Robinson's case he said he saw the case it was all over the news at the time when Taylor first went missing
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in his normal protocol is to sit back let the authorities in the investigating agency take the
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case and if it doesn't seem to go anywhere then a phone call is made fairly early on really just several days
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maybe a week after Taylor went missing Tim and sacs got involved taking on the case charging Taylor's
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family just one dollar to look into Taylor's inexplicable disappearance he and another Pi this is Tom fields of
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accurate Investigative Services looked into the case for a month returning to the house where Taylor had worked the
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night then she disappeared and interviewing several people about Taylor demoff then publicly released a criminal
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profile of the person he felt was responsible for taking Taylor he told the media that whoever was
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involved knew Taylor very well and likely had a personal relationship with her and the two had a confrontation that
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night demoff believed that this person knew where Taylor was working that evening
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and was someone she was comfortable enough with or at least willing to meet this person outside of the house and her
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bare feet late at night or let this person into the home according to demoff's Theory
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this was not someone who just stopped by and the two got into some kind of argument but this was the result of an
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ongoing issue something that had been brewing for a while what happened to Taylor was likely not
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premeditated but rather precipitated by a fit of rage after her killer did not receive the response he wanted
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from her this person was not believed to have committed murder before but he maybe on the edge of uh criminal
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activity as Tim put it Taylor was murdered but it is possible that Taylor's death was an accident as a
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result of this fit of rage a demoff told the media that through interviews he had learned that Taylor
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had some conflicts going on in her life including with a former boyfriend according to the Beacon Journal quote
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there were also Communications with someone that were so difficult she broke down crying but would not confide the
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source to friends or family I strongly believe there was a conflict between that person and her that was
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taking place before she disappeared I believe that this was a culmination of that conflict that this person wanted to
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confront her demoff said further demoth theorized that several people this is where we can help Captain
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several people know what happened to Taylor and it was possible that more than one person was involved
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a lot of garage goodness right there Captain so let's discuss the cause of death because now we've found the
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remains but it's not too hard to figure out with the amount of time that took place between the disappearance and when
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they are finding the remains that a cause of death is going to be difficult to determine based off of the level of
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decomposition right and for a while you know I've seen this reported a few different ways one states
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that the cause of death Taylor's cause of death has never been released there is an ABC 5 news story out of Cleveland
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that reported that the Summit County Medical Examiner was not able to determine how Taylor died
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and often when you're finding remains that are just skeletal remains well unless there's obvious damage to
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those bones or to the skull you're not able to determine in fact how the victim did die right but you do know that it's
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probably a homicide because well if if we can believe that her gone missing is suspicious
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and then her remains are found 15 or so miles away out in a place where she didn't end up
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on her own then we're probably looking at a homicide here and that's just how they've been treating this case ever
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since she's been found and the sad part of it too is we have her family Carmela Robinson has said publicly she does not
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want to know how her daughter was killed a Taylor's mom and stepdad spoke to the
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public outside of their home on September 11th after receiving the dreaded confirmation that Taylor had
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been found Carmella thanked the hikers for Having the courage to report their Discovery
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saying quote you brought our baby home Taylor isn't a Lost Child anymore end quote
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she seemed to intimate that Taylor had been taken by someone whose motive was something other than murder
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quote I just don't understand why you felt you had to hurt her Carmella said you could have just given her back you
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could have just brought her home just let her go yeah I wonder what that means well I think it means again she knows
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more about this crime than what's been reported and released publicly and so does Tim demoff the private investigator
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and after Taylor was found he made some public statements that were interesting he said that he remained committed to
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solving the case and quote this would not have been done by a stranger and per Fox 8 News
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he said we know for a fact in the weeks leading up to her disappearance she was having disagreements with certain people
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according to the Beacon Journal demoff said that two people would have been required to move Taylor's Body and
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speculated a struggle in the house preceded her death this is intriguing because we've heard
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nothing in the media about any kind of altercation or attack in the home even though those were our suspicions and
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reports were that there was no forced entry well I mean why are they saying that they would take two individuals to
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move her I mean she's 5'3 maybe weighs 150 pounds so I I don't understand why they're
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saying two people would have to be involved in moving because she was so far away from uh like the road
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well that that would be correct they're not saying that it would be impossible for one person to move her they're just
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taking a look at the landscape and a look at at the the route from where she went missing to where her remains were
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found and going through the logistics of moving the victim along the way right yeah you would need two people to do
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this that's what all probability points to well it makes you curious what what the motive is I mean again there they
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got to hold back certain things because that's the way they're going to get more
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information and then connect the dots and that's how they can bring a case against somebody
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but you it makes you wonder as as a listener well what would two people have to argue
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with her about and you wonder on some level you know is this a past relationship
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you know how how long has you been with the new boyfriend was there uh um separated separation
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period was she possibly even pregnant so let's let's really get into this because
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there's there's a really good working theory on this case and I believe that it is absolutely spot on
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and we are going to be calling upon the public for their help we're going to be doing that so I want to be clear about
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something we are not specifically stating that the most recent ex-boyfriend is the Prime
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Suspect okay we are saying that the the next boyfriend yeah one of she you know she
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had several ex-boyfriends she's 19 years old one of her ex-boyfriends is considered
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to be the prime suspect and in fact there are two that it has basically been narrowed down to Tim demoff and his
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group started with about six suspects that they liked and over the years they've
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narrowed it down to two then we have the police they're conducting a separate investigation but
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it looks like it looks like both of these agencies share the same thought well yeah or the evidence is pointing
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into the same direction and I think that's what we have here so without getting some of the things the
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specifics I cannot get into I've been sworn to secrecy as they say but there is evidence that says that something
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happened inside that house whatever happened to Taylor took place inside that house
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what they believe is again we have her phone's never been recovered but they have her phone records and they went
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through those very very with a detailed investigation fine-tooth comb there you go and they've
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confirmed that every person that she was interacting with via that phone and those phone records were people that she
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knew we don't have like some weird random call that night right every interaction leading up to her
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disappearance was with people that are known in her circles and that knew Taylor so the working theory is this
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there there is no motive for murder there's murder is the motive for hiding the body
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meaning Somebody went there with no intention of harming hurting or killing Taylor at all
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this was a matter that was brewing for a while and it could not wait any longer this
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person felt that they needed to confront or discuss this matter with Taylor in person and right away
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Taylor knows this person and very likely knew them for a long time so accepts the
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hey can I drop by and talk to you she accepts that invitation this person comes by what we can't figure out here
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Captain was this person alone or with somebody else right most seem to believe that either this person was alone or he
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came with a friend well what I what I mean by alone is somebody could have been waiting out in
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the car mm-hmm or this person was completely alone and then called for help and called in the assistance of somebody
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else this person entered the home with Taylor they discussed whatever the matter was
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and I believe I have reason to believe that Tim and his group know what the matter was but we're not nobody's
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telling us what the matter is right and I believe police know what it is as well
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and so well that that really helps us okay what do you mean it really helps us well it'd be nice to know what the
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matter was well I I we can't because it it could jeopardize the investigation thank you
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so the person enters the home willingly was invited into the home by Taylor come on
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in take your shoes off whatever they're discussing doesn't go the way of the person that would turn out to be our
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killer what the way that they wanted it to go and one of the I think one of the most
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interesting kind of breakdowns of of why some murders take place was one that I heard years ago and I
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thought it was it was truly I mean it was very simple but it was also very interesting
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the person this was a a son of a murder victim and they said that you know often
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that that murder is just a temper tantrum like when you think of a little kid that
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doesn't get their way and they just freak out right they're they're pounding on stomping on the floor pounding on the
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walls screaming and crying their eyes out and you look at the kid and you go what happened oh so-and-so took away his
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toy so and so uh it was is putting him in time out whatever is happening this kid does not
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want it to happen and so they are throwing a fit right and murder sometimes unfortunately is just
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a person that cannot handle a situation does not know how to deal or cope with normal human being things
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and throws a temper tantrum murder is in fact the biggest temper tantrum you could throw
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or suicide and so here what we have is just that and that seems to be what Tim believes and what police believe as well
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as Taylor's family you heard the words of her mother saying we don't think that you intended to kill
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her that that there was no motive for murder why didn't you just give her back why did you have to hurt her
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so whatever happened whatever disagreement or whatever was going on between our victim and the killer didn't
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go the Killer's way the killer reacts the only way he knows how to and that is to
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two violently violently attack this woman and then kill her now yeah but hold on it makes it seem
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like there's some kind of attack on that that she was still alive and then that this suspect would have uh
00:36:48
taken her with him and possibly she wasn't dead at the time am I nuts for for saying that's what it seems like
00:36:58
coming from the family coming from the family well why well why couldn't you just give her back she could have just
00:37:05
gave her back that's what I'm saying so that that does that imply that they believe that he took her no I I believe
00:37:12
that they all I think that that's just a grieving mother speaking talking and talking with her heart
00:37:21
and questioning everything this is truly a senseless act and you just there's just no way to to
00:37:29
to handle this to deal with this so there is there's a lot of things that indicate that that
00:37:37
she was killed in that home and then needed to be moved and where our profile goes is one of
00:37:46
these two individuals that they've narrowed it down to has a link to the area where Taylor's body was found the
00:37:54
park correct it's a in the thought being that look when something bad happens when you
00:38:01
find yourself in a state of panic and in a situation where you feel like you have
00:38:04
to do something to get yourself out of hot water that hot tub you lose the ability to think far and wide you narrow
00:38:13
your focus and you very quickly go to what you know go to a place of comfort and that's what it is believed to happen
00:38:20
here now so okay so that we got this big National Park but they believe that this
00:38:28
individual is connected to that Park one of the two people that they've narrowed
00:38:32
it down to they don't believe that he's connected to the national park they know
00:38:37
they know they know by um witness statements that this man frequented the park on occasion Okay so
00:38:48
one thing where my mind goes in a step further with this Captain is I wonder like
00:38:53
if you have people telling investigators this individual goes to this location and may just go there to clear his mind
00:39:02
or to relax or escape the the real world here my mind goes to is he also kind of returning to the dump
00:39:12
site to see if they've found her yet or if things are as he left it I bet he would have
00:39:19
so that yeah so that's one thing I think of but the interesting thing here that we need
00:39:24
to focus on and where we're going to ask the public for help is that investigators firmly believe that there
00:39:31
are people in the community that know who did this yeah this is this this sounds to me coming from again Tim and
00:39:40
the family and then probably law enforcement as well you go there's there's too much
00:39:45
little details that they know that they probably shouldn't know that means that there's rumors swirling around the
00:39:51
community right and we also have the belief that at least one person helped to conceal the body to move her and
00:39:59
conceal the body so there's at least one person that knows yeah and look you you you thought
00:40:05
you're trying to help your friend but this is not how you help your friend this makes you
00:40:13
a criminal this makes you you moving the body with your friend that makes you a bad dude and the only
00:40:22
way to to right that wrong is for you to come forward and say what you did and a lot of times if if you just
00:40:35
were the one to help move the body law enforcement will work out a deal with you but if you don't come forward
00:40:42
they're not going to work out nothing with you and and this guy that you helped he will turn on you well in the things
00:40:51
that I can say when we talk about having narrowed it down to two suspects our Killers still in that immediate area
00:41:00
he still lives there yeah and he's not married he would have roughly been about Taylor's age when this went down so now
00:41:09
we're talking about somebody who is well seven years later would be in there late 20s yeah this is somebody
00:41:20
that cannot cope cannot handle normal adult situations as seen by his actions on that night back in May of 2013.
00:41:31
there's probably signs of this yes this this person would be to those who know him best he has shown signs of
00:41:41
intimidation and violence towards those that know him best yeah and he will always be capable of doing this again
00:41:51
given a situation that he cannot handle this was a knee-jerk reaction and I guarantee you he's learned very little
00:41:58
from that knee-jerk reaction meaning for anybody out there that could end up in a
00:42:05
relationship with this guy at some point or end up married or the mother of his children
00:42:15
you this this type of person needs worked on needs consequences cannot be raising children cannot be no he needs
00:42:25
to be locked up cannot be in a relationship with a woman and that's the scary thing here the
00:42:33
other thing too that's really hindered the the investigation look we got one person that that very
00:42:42
likely helped this individual move the body but we also have is that we have people that are lying for this
00:42:51
individual there are family members who have provided a false Alibi for this person
00:42:58
yeah and you know what that makes them just as guilty as him a [ __ ] turd is what that makes them well [ __ ] turd yeah
00:43:06
and the thing is too you you can't look and if people don't come forward and they don't talk fine I hope you all go
00:43:13
down for trying to cover up this individual's actions you know come forward I mean this is a
00:43:20
young this was a young beautiful talented smart beautiful girl right and it's just uh
00:43:30
and all look going to school working multiple jobs for what you know guy can't handle himself couldn't handle
00:43:41
not get in his way so you murder somebody that person needs to be locked up I don't care if that's
00:43:49
your family member or not you know pathetic well and even in 2018 the frustrated family of our victim spoke to
00:44:00
the media and Carmella acknowledged that police had told her that they have Persons of
00:44:07
Interest and know that certain persons had lied to police in their interviews and statements
00:44:15
again that's going back to lock them up defines Alibis you you lying the police lock you up well late send in the killer
00:44:22
clowns late last year captain in 2019 an article on Fox 8's website said that authorities uh in regards to
00:44:32
authorities police and the families Pi are seeking fresh leads on Taylor's now Cold Case
00:44:40
Summit County Crime Stoppers also announced a partnership with a group called Silent Angels that's also a group
00:44:46
that that Tim is very much involved with to provide a seven thousand dollar reward for information leading to the
00:44:54
arrest and conviction of the person or persons who are responsible for what happened to Taylor and I want to take
00:45:04
that a step forward because that's late of last year and here we find ourselves in the middle of 2020 and 2020 is well
00:45:14
it's been a really sucky year and yeah well look like like I told you I think yeah like I told you a couple of
00:45:23
weeks ago the two smartest people on the planet left and the thing here is we had all this time where where
00:45:33
everything just went dormant where everything just kind of stopped and I'm so thankful that Tim reached out to you
00:45:40
and I to the garage and wanted to bring Taylor's case back into the spotlight because
00:45:47
he was busy doing this in January he was starting to ramp up this investigation not just the investigation but the the
00:45:54
the reaching out to the public for help right back in January and then everything stopped everything shut down
00:46:01
and so picking up where they left off in 2019 will not happen until the late summer of 2020 but if you're the person
00:46:11
that did this the water is going to get real hot for you real quick because not um they're they're going to
00:46:19
be putting up Billboards seeking information in Taylor Robinson's case they're going to increase the reward
00:46:26
money for information in Taylor Robinson's case one of our listeners right now are going to be sharing it on
00:46:32
social media that's right so all your friends can see as well so it's it's very interesting and I think I feel good
00:46:39
knowing that there are people like Tim knowing that there are good folks in the detectives at the Acura MPD that are
00:46:48
passionate about this case and they're not going to just let it remain cold well this is very solvable
00:46:55
if somebody comes forward and does the right thing and the Robinson family is to be commended for their activism in
00:47:01
keeping Taylor's case in the public eye they received significant support from the mayor and other community leaders
00:47:08
and the local media that kept Taylor's story front and center Taylor's stepfather who never tired of
00:47:16
his efforts to find Taylor lost his own 17 year old son in a shooting in 2006. hopefully he and Carmella will
00:47:25
eventually see the killer of Taylor brought to Justice Carmella has said of her beloved
00:47:31
daughter quote she wasn't a child who deserved to have her body end up in a park end quote no one's daughter is but
00:47:40
Taylor seemed particularly undeserving of her fate [Music] thank you [Music] foreign
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[Music] do we have any recommended reading for this week Captain we do it's time to
00:48:09
recommend a novel Because unless you're as crazy as I am then too much True Crime is not the Escape you are maybe
00:48:17
needing right now well here's a good one I just started reading this one and I'm locked in it's
00:48:23
a novel by Kaylee white titled the monsters we make it just came out last week it's a fictional story based off of
00:48:31
the 1980s Des Moines Register paper boy kidnappings that's the monsters we make find that title and many more on our
00:48:40
recommended page at True Crime garage.com all right so this Loosely base maybe ties in some of the Johnny
00:48:48
gosh stuff there you go very interesting everybody tough times hang in there be good be kind and don't live
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