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This is True Crime Garage, and this is the case of Aaron Spencer. [music] >> [music]
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[music] >> This week we are heading down to Lone Oak, spelled like Lenoke, but I believe
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it is pronounced like Lone Oak. This is Lone Oak County located in central Arkansas. A little over 75,000
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people are living and working there. The county seat is Lone Oak and the largest
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city is Kabat. We will also be talking about Carile, Arkansas. Kat, Lone Oak, and Carile are all extensions of the
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greater Little Rock area for those of you outside of the state of Arkansas. Cabbat is up route 57. Lone Oak and
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Carile are out Route 40. Lone Oak is an alcohol prohibited or dry county. So, the fine folks of Lone Oak County might
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not be joining us for a beer or two of the week here today, Captain. But whether or not any of those fine folks
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want to join us to raise a glass and bend an elbow in the privacy of their garage, that's up to them. But one thing
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that I know that we will be doing that they will be doing I should say in 2026 is voting for the sheriff election which
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will take place in November of this year with the primary sheriff's election taking place in March. So that would be
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March 3rd, 2026 to be exact. Now, of course, we do not live in Arkansas, and thus we do not have a dog in the fight,
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nor would we ever be here to try to sway you one way or the other, but we couldn't help but notice that this is a
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rather unusual sheriff's election. The Democrat running is already determined, but we have three candidates to
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represent the Republican party in November. So, in March, we have the incumbent, the current and standing
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sheriff. His name is John Staley, who is running for reelection. Staley was elected sheriff in 2012 and started his
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first term back in January 1st of 2013. He says it is an honor serving the citizens of Lone Oak County as their
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sheriff. Staley is married with three daughters. Also running as the potential Republican representative is David
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Buffford who has 30 years of law enforcement experience. And then we have Aaron Spencer who is a proud Airborne
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veteran and he and his wife of several years are raising their two children in Lone Oak County. However, there is a
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major twist here. An might Shyamalan sized twist. One of these candidates may be forced to drop out of the election as
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he faces murder charges, >> seconddegree murder charges. >> This week's true crime case research
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starts at the beginning of our timeline, but runs up until and then through today. actually as next week on Monday,
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January 26th, Aaron Spencer, Sheriff candidate, will step foot in the Lone Oak County
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Courthouse for a jury trial where he is accused of and charged with murder. County prosecutors say that Aaron
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Spencer is guilty of seconddegree murder, just like the captain said, with an additional gun charge. Spencer's
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defense attorneys say that the charges are absurd and that Aaron Spencer was simply protecting his family. I'm sure
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that many of the residents of Lone Oak are happy that they will not have to sit on this jury as some believe Aaron
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Spencer to be guilty of all charges and at the same time many wondering why Spencer was even charged at all in the
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first place. County Sheriff candidate Aaron Spencer is currently facing a charge of secondderee murder from an
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October 2024 shooting death of a local man. His trial is scheduled to begin in January of
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2026. And under Arkansas law, in fact, I would hope this would be the law everywhere here, Captain. A conviction
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would disqualify him from holding public office. It would also send him to prison. Now, this case has gained
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national attention as Aaron Spencer argues his actions were a justified defense of his daughter. Yeah, but if it
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was me running, if I was Aaron, I'd say, "Hey, look, vote me in." And even if I get convicted, that just means I'll have
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more time on my hands to devote to the citizens of this county. >> He may end up with a lot of time on his
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hands. And we talked about people having an opinion on this case, especially the
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good folks down there in Lono County. But as of December of last year of 2025, this case has prompted more than
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195,000 people to sign a petition calling for Aaron Spencer to be absolved of all charges. Quickly here, let's
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introduce some of the folks at the center of this story. Aaron Spencer of Carile, Arkansas is 37 years old. He is
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a proud combat veteran. Aaron served in the 82nd Airborne Division. Thank you to
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all of our amazing men and women serving this country, past and present. He is also a contractor and farmer and a
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devoted husband and father who has spent his life serving others. He says that he
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grew up with the values that still guide him today like faith, hard work, respect
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for the law, and a love of country. He joined the military to defend those values and carries the same courage and
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commitment into every part of his life after service. Aaron and his wife Heather. So she's an Arkansas native
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from Kabat. They've been married for 20 years. They're raising their two children in Lono County. Their family is
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grounded in traditional values. They say honesty, integrity, and responsibility to the community. Now that we've
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introduced you to the Spencer family, we are going to go back and kick off our timeline for this week's true crime
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story, let's start it off July of 2024 here, Captain. And I will summarize what went down in July as there was a lot of
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activity pertaining to this case. So Aaron and Heather Spencer are raising their kids. At that time, one of their
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children is a 13-year-old daughter. She's being homeschooled. Part of this was due to the fact that
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she was helping out. So the the entire family was taking care of a dying grandfather.
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she was able to take a break and spend some time with friends that the Spencers say were air quotes like family. And so
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she's going to be spending time with friends and the friends parents. These are people that the Spencers trusted.
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This is where their daughter met a man named Michael Fostler, 67 years old. He is the boyfriend of a family friend and
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through meeting him at some point he starts grooming her via text messages. And it's believed that this started in
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April of 2024. >> Like you said, he's 67, she's 13. In July of 2024, her parents, the Spencers, were informed
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by a family member that their then 13-year-old daughter, who's now 14, had confided that she had been raped.
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And immediately they sit down and they talk with their child asking what happened.
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And the little girl explained that this man who was a stranger to the Spencer family had assaulted her multiple times.
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This is going to set off a crazy [snorts] domino effect. Okay. So, they sit down with their daughter. They learn
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this horrific [clears throat] accusations that their daughter, she says, was violated, was raped, assaulted multiple
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times by the 67 year old man. So, dad puts on his cape. July 8th, 2024, he goes to an acquaintance. So, he goes and
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he finds somebody who knows this Michael Fostler and he's asking for Fosler's contact information and he informs the
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person, hey, informs them of the alleged rape and assaults that took place on his
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minor daughter. So Aaron asks this person, "Hey, I want his contact information. Don't
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call the cops." In a bit of a roundabout way here, Captain the the acquaintance does inform the police. So law
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enforcement went to Aaron Spencer's home to speak with him. This is when his daughter reports the assaults to the
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Lone Oak County Sheriff's Office. The sheriff's office begins a rape investigation. During this encounter,
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right, when the the law enforcement are there at the Spencer home, they recorded
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on body camera footage their interaction with the Spencer family. And in this interaction, on camera footage, a deputy
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warned Aaron Spencer, quote, not to take the law into your own hands. End quote.
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Okay. So, let's expand on this portion right here, Cappy, for context purposes. So, on this day, we have two Lono County
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Sheriff's officers that are visiting the Spencer's home to figure out what's going on. A transcript of that
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conversation, which was recorded by one of the officers body worn cameras, is in
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the state filings for this case. And according to that transcript, Spencer, Aaron Spencer asked the officers,
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"What's going to happen to that man when you arrest him and prosecute him?" And he says, "3 to five, question mark.
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What? He's just rolling around cruising and grooming." Spencer then asked one of the officers
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how he would feel if the same thing were to happen to his child, >> right? to which that officer responded
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that something similar had happened. >> It's a very difficult situation because you obviously want to protect your
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daughter, you want to protect your family, but you need to let law enforcement do their job. And these
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situations are very difficult. I actually reach out to a detective friend of mine and he was saying that they'll
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actually do multiple interviews sometimes with different officers with the victim because one of the things
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that law enforcement has to figure out is how truthful is this kid being because kids could be making up a story
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or the parents are feeding the kid a story to give to law enforcement. So, one of the things that law enforcement
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has to do is to figure out, okay, if we interview them multiple times, is the overall story lining up every time?
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>> Yes. And we usually don't get in the habit of throwing out warnings or trigger warnings or any of that. It's a
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true crime show. You know what you signed up for, but there's >> the victim's a kid, you know.
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>> Yeah. There's there's this is a sensitive complex situation and there's also some language that will be used in
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this episode off of going off of statements that have been made and we're not going to shy away from that
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language. So Aaron Spencer when he's talking to the officers now he wants to know right what happened to the the the
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person the offender that did something similar to one of your kids >> right >> and he's told hey look that person was
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arrested charged convicted he's now sitting in prison that man responsible for that crime we don't know the
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particulars of it that man is in prison according to this officer to this Aaron Spencer's response is look that he
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believes that that pedophile, that offender that they were just talking about sitting in prison and other child
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abusers still pose a danger to society even when incarcerated. Adding quote, "He's going to get back
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out, isn't he? He's going to go around and [ __ ] more kids." Okay. When an officer told Spencer, "We still don't
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live in a country where you can take law into your own hands," >> right? >> Spencer simply replied,
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"Bullshit." >> One of my problems with these pedophiles praying on children is I think you can
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make an argument whether they're tricking or coercing or physically moving the child to a location. I I
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believe you could tack on a kidnapping charge and and I think if >> I think so >> I think if we did that more often in
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these cases, you're not looking at three to five. And I'm not saying that law enforcement should reassure Aaron
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Spencer of this, the father of the victim, but depending on where they get put in prison and depending on if
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they're found out by other inmates, that 3 to 5 years can be a torturous hell. By
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the end of this conversation, or at least where this transcript ends, it appears here that Aaron Spencer has
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calmed down, right? We can hear that he's he's agitated, a bit aggressive, but at some point he seems to calm down.
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The officers reminding him that taking matters into his own hands will only ruin his daughter's life, potentially
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even more. He says, "So, what can we do then? Can you guys go get him? Can you put him in prison?" What
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they do is Spencer's daughter, Aaron Spencer's daughter, was interviewed at the Wade Knox Children's Advocacy Center
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that same day. And the Lone Oak Sheriff's Department started their investigation
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on July 11th, 2024. That man, Michael Fostler, age 67, was arrested and charged, listen to this, 43
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counts. >> Yeah. >> Arrested and charged with 43 counts, including sexual assault of a minor and
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internet stalking. So, the official offense date was listed as June 1st, 2024. And all of the counts are as
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follows. Internet stalking of a child, which is in Arkansas a class B felony, two counts. Sexual assault, fourthderee,
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class D, two counts. Sexual indecency with a child, two counts. Electronic facilitation of child sexual abuse, two
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counts. Also several counts of pandering or possessing medium depicting sexual conduct with a child. Michael Fosler
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arrested charged 43 counts. He's out on bond 6 days later on July 17th. So Fostler was released on a $50,000 bond,
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which means $5,000 paid. According to the USA Today, the family had a no the the family being the Spencer family had
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a no contact order in place with Fosler, accusing him of stalking and raping their daughter over the summer. I've
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also seen some reports that state that he was issued a no contact order with a minor. So it could mean any minor, any
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child at all. >> Yeah. So not only was he ordered not to contact the victim, not to contact any
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children, but he was also ordered to stay away from the Spencer family, the entirety of the family. And this is
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where I think most of us would think that outside of Michael Fostler waiting for a trial, standing trial, potentially
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getting convicted, and then going away to prison, this is where most of us, I think, would believe that this story
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All right, we are back. Cheers, [music] mates. Tall can hands in the air. >> Talk hands in the air. In fact, indeed,
00:29:21
my friend. Indeed. A little less than 3 months after Michael Fostler was arrested and then
00:29:29
let out on bond, we get this next major portion, the biggest portion in our timeline here of this week's true crime
00:29:40
story. And this takes place, Captain, on October 8th, 2024. So, at approximately 1:00 a.m. in the
00:29:49
morning, Aaron Spencer says that he is awakened by his dog barking. So, he's up. He goes, decides to go to his
00:30:00
daughter's room to check on her. Now, mind you, we had mentioned that the Spencers have two children. It's my
00:30:08
understanding that their 13-year-old daughter is the youngest of the two and the the older child is an adult or out
00:30:17
of the house by by the time of this marker on our timeline here. So, Aaron Spencer, father, dad, dog barking, wants
00:30:25
to get up, checks the house. He decides to go into his daughter's room to check on her. And this is when he realizes
00:30:32
that 1:00 a.m. in the morning, my god, my daughter is gone. He says that he found a hoodie placed over top of a
00:30:40
stuffed animal which was placed in the bed. Ferris Beller type decoy, right? As a result, Aaron left.
00:30:49
>> Wait, hold on. In Ferris Beller, it was a mannequin. They always say >> it's never a mannequin.
00:30:55
>> They say it's never a man mannequin, but hey, Ferris Bueller's day off. Guess
00:30:59
what? It's a mannequin. >> Yeah. So Aaron decides he he looks through the house, no daughter, and he
00:31:07
is going to jump into dad mode and he is going to get in his truck and go looking for his daughter. Now, we
00:31:16
should so also mention that his wife is up at this time. She's looking through the home. He goes off in his truck to
00:31:24
begin a frantic search for his missing daughter. At 1:12 a.m., Heather Spencer, the mom, called 911 to report the teen
00:31:35
girl missing. Meanwhile, Aaron Spencer spots Michael Fostler's truck on Highway 236.
00:31:44
His daughter's inside that truck as well. Aaron Spencer sees Michael Fostler's white Ford F-150
00:31:52
turn onto Highway 236 east. So he turned around and chased after Fosler's truck.
00:32:02
>> And before we go too much further, whether he came into the house or convinced her to come out, it's
00:32:11
kidnapping. Period. There is a crime taking place. So now dad is chasing after the offender and the daughter who are in
00:32:22
his in that Ford F-150 and he chases Fosler's vehicle, follows him for around six miles. All the while
00:32:32
we have Aaron Spencer who he's flashing his lights, he's honking his horn, he's doing everything to try to tell Fosler
00:32:42
with his vehicle to pull over. So then the two vehicles arrived at the intersection of highways 236 east and 13
00:32:50
north. And this is when Spencer just rammed his truck into the rear of Fosler's truck, sending the Ford F-150
00:32:59
into a ditch and striking a wooden entry gate post. So he hits the back of this truck and slams it into this wooden gate
00:33:11
post. So you can picture this. Fosler's truck is now up against this gate post and it's it's not going anywhere.
00:33:20
So Spencer then says that he exited his vehicle with a firearm in hand and ordered Michael Fostler out of his
00:33:32
vehicle and telling him to lay down in the ditch. Aaron later stated that he observed his daughter trying to exit the
00:33:42
passenger side of the vehicle, but he said it appeared to him that Michael Fostler had grabbed her, preventing her
00:33:49
from getting out of the vehicle. >> Yeah, cuz I've heard this reported multiple ways. And and one of the ways
00:33:55
I've heard it or the the story told was when Spencer gets out of his truck, he's
00:34:01
ordering his daughter, hey, get out of the truck. Get out of the truck. and she can't or won't. We don't. That's, you
00:34:09
know, again, we we only have really two people's side of the story. But either way, then it turns into him ordering out
00:34:19
the the pedophile. Aaron Spencer then says that Michael Fosler exited his vehicle and had something in his hand,
00:34:29
but Spencer did not know what it was. Aaron Spencer stated that Michael Fosler then lunged towards him, saying, "Fuck
00:34:37
you." Spencer stated that he then opened fire on Fostler, emptying his weapon before jumping on top of Fostler and
00:34:47
pistol whipping him. >> Yeah, he shot him a lot. >> Yes. Aaron Spencer then stated that he
00:34:52
got his daughter out of the vehicle and returned to his truck where he reloaded his weapon. Now, we also know that at
00:35:00
1:34 a.m. 911 dispatch got another call. This call is from Aaron Spencer, who said he had located the quote man who
00:35:12
kidnapped his daughter end quote and his daughter, but that Michael Fostler was quote dead on the side of the road and
00:35:21
that he had no choice. According to the police report, Spencer shot Fosler in the chest, arms, and abdomen with a
00:35:32
Glock 19 generation 4 pistol. And like the captain said, Spencer fired 16 shots, hitting Fosler
00:35:42
15 times. >> Yeah, that dude is dead. The report does not say how many times each body part
00:35:49
was hit. Though a standard magazine for a Glock 19 holds 15 rounds, but if you chamber one, you've got 16 rounds.
00:35:58
>> Right. >> Regarding the pistol whipping of Michael Fosler. The report notes that there was
00:36:05
blood on the outside of the weapon when the police recovered it. Michael Fostler
00:36:10
died at the scene. USA Today reported that the child's mother had thought this time Fostler might be trying to kill her
00:36:19
daughter because he was facing six to nine felonies and her daughter was the only witness to those crimes.
00:36:28
Yeah, think about this. If he is successful in kidnapping her and then he ends up killing her and they can't pin
00:36:36
that charge on him while all those other charges then go away. >> Yes. And regardless of, you know, three
00:36:42
to five or how they would structure the sentencing for those charges, 43 counts,
00:36:49
they'd probably reduce the number of counts at some point. But being 67 years old, it's not entirely out of the realm
00:36:58
of possibility that he would spend the rest of his life in prison. That's one thing that I think we should be keeping
00:37:06
in mind. Now, of course, Aaron Spencer is going to be arrested on a preliminary charge of firstdegree murder. He too was
00:37:15
released on bail. This was the following day, November 27th, 2024. Aaron Spencer was
00:37:23
formally charged with seconddegree murder with a firearm enhancement charge. >> Yeah. And just to stop here for a
00:37:32
second, if I'm law enforcement, even with this 911 call, even if I agree with what Aaron Spencer did, even if I think
00:37:42
that it's within his rights, because you can look at it two ways. One, you could
00:37:47
argue self-defense, but you can also argue basically protecting another individual. And so I could see law
00:37:55
enforcement eventually not charging him with anything. But the initial step is, hey, let's let's just arrest him. Let's
00:38:02
get him in here. Let's go over some of the evidence. Let's go over let's interview him and and let's see what and
00:38:09
let's try to get all the details that we can of what happened. >> Yeah, this is such a difficult one here,
00:38:16
right, Captain? Because you on one hand you can say you I mean he shot him 15 times. He
00:38:24
fired the gun 16 hit him 15. >> Pistolh whipped him after he shot him 15 times. So you can easily say all right
00:38:33
uh firstdegree murder or minimum seconddegree murder and this guy's caught red-handed.
00:38:40
Then on the other side of that argument, you could say, "No, this is self-defense."
00:38:48
What's in the middle of both of those arguments to me is the fact that my 13-year-old daughter is in that guy's
00:38:58
truck at the middle of the night. And oh, by the way, that guy is also the same guy that she told me had sexually
00:39:05
assaulted her. and she told the Lone Oak Sheriff's Department that he sexually assaulted her as well.
00:39:14
>> Yeah. And he's 67 years old. This is not his first pedophile rodeo. And also, we
00:39:20
have to look at statistics, right? And I tried to look this up to get more accurate numbers, but roughly
00:39:31
studies show 70 to 80% when a a child is abducted, 70 to 80% will die within the
00:39:40
first 3 hours. The moment she's in his truck, statistically, it's a ticking time bomb.
00:39:47
>> The prosecutors charged Spencer with seconddegree murder. And as we mentioned, the felony addition with the
00:39:55
firearm that same day. So when he's charged that same day in November, his attorneys, this is Aaron Cassinelli and
00:40:04
Michael Kaiser, they issued a statement calling Spencer a decorated war hero who
00:40:09
protected his country and a loving father whose heroic actions protected his family. They said Fostler repeatedly
00:40:18
violated his child and kidnapped her in the dark of night to continue his assaults on her. The statement
00:40:25
criticized prosecutors for bringing charges against Spencer at all. Accused prosecutors of perpetuating these [ __ ]
00:40:34
instead of protecting legitimate victims and punishing true criminal offenders. Then in December on the 4th in 2024, the
00:40:46
state filed a motion for a gag order alleging that Spencer's arrest had garnered media coverage throughout the
00:40:53
state and nation and that it was necessary for a gag order to be in place and the order was eventually granted.
00:41:03
Spencer did file a detailed response in opposition for the gag order. He argued that granting the motion for a gag order
00:41:11
would violate his due process rights to a fair and public trial pursuant to the sixth and 14th amendments as well as his
00:41:20
first amendment right to speak pursuant to both the Arkansas and the United States Constitutions.
00:41:27
Spencer requested that a hearing on the state's motion be held in open court. Okay. So eventually this is going to
00:41:36
lead to May 29th of the following year. Last year, 2025, the high court struck down that gag order. They vacated the
00:41:45
gag order in the case, allowing for more public discussion of the facts of the case. On June 14th, 2025, Heather
00:41:56
Spencer, Aaron's wife, shared a lengthy post on Facebook detailing the months leading up to the shooting, the death of
00:42:07
Michael Fostler. In this post, she says their daughter, then 13, was groomed and
00:42:13
assaulted by Fosler, who was released on a low bond despite pending felony charges and a no contact order. It has
00:42:22
been a hard eight months, she says, silently fighting battles where we were unprepared for. In those early days, we
00:42:30
had a very limited understanding of the magnitude of what we were facing. What happened to our child starting in the
00:42:37
spring of 2024 when she was just 13 was horrifying and traumatic for all who loved her. She is
00:42:46
a quiet homeschooled child who at the time spent more days than not helping care for her dying grandpa. It was hard
00:42:55
work. And when presented with the opportunity to spend some time in a quote safe place, I allowed her to take
00:43:03
a much needed break on days when we weren't busy to be with friends that were family.
00:43:11
Deep in my soul, they were family, and I trusted she was safe. She wasn't. It took very little exposure for an
00:43:20
unknown man who was old enough to be my father to start pursuing my child. This monster was an opportunist and started
00:43:29
grooming my then 13-year-old daughter via text. In July of 2024, we were informed by a family member that our now
00:43:38
14-year-old child had confided that she had been raped. Immediately we asked her
00:43:42
child what happened and she explained that this man who was a stranger to us had assaulted her multiple times. We let
00:43:50
the law run its course and we were promised along the way that this isn't 20 years ago. They take these things
00:43:57
seriously now. We trusted that this man would be served justice under the law. While we were happy that he was quickly
00:44:06
arrested, we were not privy to the fact that he was released on a low bond with zero supervision. Even though we
00:44:12
anticipated his release, we thought the pending felony charge and a no contact order would be enough to keep him away
00:44:20
from our child. We were wrong. >> Well, and wasn't he making contact with her before he kidnapped her?
00:44:29
>> Yes. and she explains that in the latter part of this post. So she says, "We put
00:44:36
our daughter into therapy and tried our best to manage her trauma while still caring for my dying father. When we were
00:44:43
awakened by our daughter's dog in the middle of the night on October 8th, my first thought was that our child was
00:44:50
sick. I woke my husband up and asked him to check on her. What happened next is burned into my very being. he called out
00:44:58
from her room that she was missing. And this goes to a lot of what you were saying, and I'm I'm glad that you cited
00:45:06
the statistics here because that's something we've referenced in other cases when we have a missing child. She
00:45:12
goes on to say, "Immediately all the lights in the house were on. We were calling for her inside the house, then
00:45:18
outside. I called our son and our niece, the only people who may have known where
00:45:23
she may have gone. Neither did. So, I called 911 immediately as my husband left to go looking for her with no
00:45:29
direction in mind, only a prayer of finding her. This is what you were referencing here, and I I don't know the
00:45:37
particulars of this, but it's certainly a connection. So, she says, "My sister-in-law then sent us a picture of
00:45:44
a cash app payment for Door Dash from the Predator to our daughter and niece." and that that payment, that receipt
00:45:55
would have been from a day or two prior to her going missing. So she says, "In that moment, we realize that she may
00:46:02
have been taken, but it's the middle of the night and everything is happening in
00:46:06
seconds and every second counts. I tell 911 that this man may be involved." So she mentions Michael Fosler in the 911
00:46:13
call. Says, "As I'm speaking, I'm realizing that if he does have her, I'll probably never see her again." She
00:46:22
posts, "Statistics and horror stories raced through my mind. My baby, my little girl gone. All I could do was
00:46:30
pray. I hung up with the 911 operator and called my mother." I screamed in horror while she prayed, "Hail Marys.
00:46:38
God, please save my baby. My own screams will forever haunt my memory." By God's
00:46:43
grace alone, my husband spotted the predator and our child and turned to follow them. Then the predator ran with
00:46:52
our child. Thanks to my husband's quick and courageous actions, our child was saved that night. I have no doubt that
00:47:00
if it weren't for God and my husband, I would have never seen my child again. The relief of my child being alive was
00:47:07
quickly followed by terror as the prosecutor set preliminary charges at Murder One with $150,000
00:47:15
bond. going through yet another assault exam. This is this part is this part is rough right here.
00:47:24
>> It's all pretty rough so far, man. >> It's it it's all it's all very rough. But this one like like this one like I
00:47:32
don't know. It burned a hole in my mind when I the first time I read it. >> Mhm.
00:47:36
>> Going through yet another assault exam with my child at the hospital. I could
00:47:41
one I couldn't imagine being in that scenario ever at all. Right. >> She's going through a rape exam at the
00:47:48
hospital with her child and she says, "While trying to find a lawyer for my husband at the same time was a
00:47:55
nightmare. Navigating criminal charges while also being fully traumatized by the events of that night was difficult.
00:48:01
It quickly made its way through social media and with the support of our community, we attained the very best
00:48:09
lawyers and Aaron was released on bond." She goes on to say, "We were no longer able to share our story." So, she's she
00:48:17
was referencing the gag order. Uh she says, "At arraignment, they decided to charge my husband with murder, too, with
00:48:23
a gun enhancement charge. Then immediately, the same judge who released this monster out into the community to
00:48:30
continue his reign of terror on our child placed us and seemingly the whole world under an unconstitutional gag
00:48:38
order. We were no longer allowed to share our story and we were forced to suffer the injustice in silence. By some
00:48:46
other miracle, our case was heard by the Arkansas Supreme Court and the gag order
00:48:50
was lifted. We are now free to share our story. >> Yeah. It's almost like the system knows
00:48:56
that charging him with anything is going to be questionable. So, let's put a gag
00:49:02
order on so nobody can question us and maybe it'll just go away. There won't be public pressure and we can charge this
00:49:11
guy and put him in in prison. >> And then the last paragraph of her post, Captain says, "My husband didn't ask to
00:49:17
be put in a position to save our child. We didn't ask for any of this. An evil man with a long history of predatory
00:49:25
behavior targeted our child and was not scared of the consequences. My husband was forced to save his child from
00:49:32
someone who should have never been on the streets to begin with. Please continue to pray for our family and
00:49:38
share our story. If this can happen to us in rural Arkansas, it can happen anywhere. A
00:49:46
>> lot of weird [ __ ] happens in Arkansas. But think about this, too. Let's say he
00:49:50
did go into the house to kidnap her and he was spotted by the father and then the father shot him. Would we still
00:49:58
charge the father with seconddegree murder? >> That's an interesting thing to ponder.
00:50:03
That that's an interesting part of it. The the other part of it, too, is I I think what's not being said here wasn't
00:50:10
said in her lengthy post, but anyway, but it and the post I thought was was well put together. I very well said.
00:50:19
>> Brilliant. >> I think I think I think mom did the right thing. I think that that that
00:50:25
tells her side of the story and also tells the public some of the things that she went through internally and some of
00:50:32
the things that her family went through internally that wasn't so obvious to the
00:50:36
rest of us. But the part of this that makes this criminal, right? Not just criminal, but extremely dangerous.
00:50:46
There's there's every reason to believe that this man would have went to extreme
00:50:53
lengths to do something. Kidnap the girl, assault her again, kill her. We don't know. I say we should have every
00:51:03
reason to believe that he would have done something extreme because just by way of the no contact order, he
00:51:12
shouldn't have gone anywhere near their home. He shouldn't have gone anywhere near that girl. Whether he stepped foot
00:51:17
in their home or not, he shouldn't have been anywhere near that girl. >> And we have proof he was making contact
00:51:24
before this. And to break that no contact order while still facing 43 charges tells me that's an indicator to me that
00:51:36
he might be willing to do something extreme because that act in itself is extreme.
00:51:41
>> I absolutely agree with you and I absolutely agree with the the parents in the sense of like that's the first thing
00:51:48
that would be going through your head. This guy was ordered to stay away. He has 43 charges pending against him. And
00:51:55
then he stole our daughter. He kidnapped our daughter. There is a crime in progress. And I just don't get it. It's
00:52:03
like if there was an elderly lady walking down the street and some thug jumped out and started attacking her and
00:52:13
a good [clears throat] Samaritan ran out and grabbed the guy and pulled pulled the attacker off the elderly woman and
00:52:20
threw him to the ground. and in the process that guy hit his head and died. Well, we wouldn't charge that individual
00:52:26
cuz one, he was protecting somebody else and it's cause and effect. This guy would ne he would have never stepped in
00:52:34
if this thug didn't attack the elderly woman. >> This one's a very difficult one for me
00:52:40
to have have a very very strong opinion one way or another. I don't see anything
00:52:46
wrong personally with what Aaron Spencer did. those statistics that you cited and
00:52:52
that I then echoed. The other part of this too is we and we've reviewed cases like this in the garage before as as
00:53:01
outside of the box as this one might feel like on the surface. No, we've told you stories before, true
00:53:09
crime stories of child or young adult accuses someone of of an offense or of a sexual assault
00:53:20
or rape. Child or young adult disappears in the middle of the night, never found,
00:53:25
never seen again. The police find the stuffed animal with the hoodie on top of it and go, "Oh, she ran away. Something
00:53:33
must have been going on at home that she wanted to get away from or or the kid was just a problem and she ran away and
00:53:40
there now there's nothing we can do and oh we have to drop the charges against this man because he can no longer face
00:53:49
his accuser in the court of law. So 2 to 3 hours potentially from being dead and buried
00:53:58
and maybe never found again if dad doesn't step out into the night and get in his truck and go looking. Now
00:54:08
Heather, the wife did set up a GoFundMe to pay for her husband's legal fees, but
00:54:14
this was removed. The money was returned to the donors. It was receiving donations, but it was returned to the
00:54:20
donors as GoFundMe does not allow fundraisers to raise money for the legal defense of anyone formally charged with
00:54:29
an alleged violent crime. >> Right. >> In October of 2025, Aaron Spencer announced his candidacy for Lone Oak
00:54:37
County Sheriff, campaigning on the message that the the current system had failed to protect his family. So
00:54:45
according to reports when he launched his com campaign on October 10th he announced that he is running for Lone
00:54:52
Oak County Sheriff as the head of the agency that that arrested him the previous October. Spencer described
00:55:00
himself as the father who acted to protect his daughter when the system failed him and a husband, a combat
00:55:08
veteran of the 82nd Airborne Division, a contractor and a farmer. He said he has
00:55:15
seen firsthand the failures in law enforcement and in our circuit court. And he said he could no longer sit by
00:55:23
silently. He says, quote, "This campaign isn't about me. It's about every parent,
00:55:29
every neighbor, every family who deserves to feel safe in their homes and safe in their community. It's about
00:55:36
restoring trust where neighbors know law enforcement is on their side and families know they will not be left
00:55:44
alone in a moment of need. But I think you >> following that announcement, >> but I even think you can go a step
00:55:50
further in that. You need a community that feels safe if a threat if they feel like they're in immediate threat that
00:56:00
they feel safe and confident that they're able to protect themselves. And if there is a crime happening to
00:56:09
somebody else that they they feel safe and stopping that crime or helping that individual, you have to have a community
00:56:19
that is okay with that that that they have some kind of understanding. And law enforcement again, you don't want the
00:56:28
public taking the law into their own hands. You but you have to have the right to self-protect. You have to have
00:56:36
the right to protect somebody else if they're in immediate danger. >> Following that announcement, Sheriff
00:56:43
John Staley with the Lone Oak County Sheriff's Office shared the following statement. I will be seeking reelection
00:56:50
to continue being our Lone Oak County Sheriff. Since 2013, I have served as sheriff of Lone Oak County with a clear
00:56:59
mission to protect our citizens and hold those who break the law accountable. From day one, our focus has been on
00:57:06
three major threats to our communities. Drug traffickers, sexual predators, and thieves. We've made significant
00:57:13
progress, and we will continue to work tirelessly to keep Lone Oak County safe and ensure justice is served fairly and
00:57:21
consistently for everyone. My motto has been and will continue to be, do what's right, not what's easy. Doing what's
00:57:30
right isn't always popular. There were some pre-trial hearings that took place in middle of December 2025.
00:57:40
The pre-trial hearings were held where the judge ruled that the body camera footage and Spencer's statements from
00:57:48
July 2024 would be admissible as evidence. So remember that's when he's talking to the officers when they first
00:57:58
are notifying Lone Oak County Sheriff's Department about the assaults, >> right?
00:58:03
>> His comments about, hey, like this isn't good enough or, you know, so that body
00:58:08
cam footage will be part of the January trial. And also during the pre-trial hearing on
00:58:14
this murder case, Aaron Spencer's defense team withdrew a motion that sought to exclude
00:58:21
a glass smoking device found in a police cruiser after his arrest. The specific reasons for initially filing the motion
00:58:28
to exclude the evidence or the reasons for its subsequent withdrawal were not detailed in the available reports. Some
00:58:37
other pre-trial hearings addressed several other pieces of evidence, including cell phone data.
00:58:44
The judge ruled that the FBI agent could testify about cell site location data from Spencer's phone. This
00:58:54
one's interesting. No one's dis No one's disputing where Aaron Spencer was when he pulled the trigger and killed Michael
00:59:01
Fostler. >> Right. >> Right. That's not part of the trial. Nobody's denying that Spencer killed
00:59:06
Fosler. It's just was it in self-defense and protecting his family or was it an unlawful killing of another person.
00:59:15
That's the the argument. Nobody's arguing that that he killed him and nobody's arguing where he was when that
00:59:21
murder took or nobody's arguing where he was when >> he was right in front of the pedophile
00:59:27
pulling the freaking trigger. And and I'm not trying to correct you cuz I think you said it correctly, but I want
00:59:34
to want everybody to be clear on this. Especially in Arkansas, you have the right to protect yourself and you have
00:59:41
the right to protect somebody else. So there's two ways that they could go as far as trying to defend this. But
00:59:49
again, it's cause and effect. This pedophile would not be dead if he didn't go and break orders and kidnap a
00:59:59
child. And it's pretty pathetic that all we're going to charge these pedophiles with is a couple years. And I
01:00:10
understand that we have, you know, there's some sense that these sickos get what's coming to them in prison, but
01:00:19
that doesn't always happen. Part of that though too, we we got to be clear about
01:00:23
something is there is a sentencing process and just because a couple of law enforcement officers and a army veteran,
01:00:30
a airborne veteran are discussing what the penalty will be doesn't mean that is what the penalty will be. Right? When
01:00:38
we're sitting when they're sitting around spitballing and saying 3 to five, it doesn't necessarily mean that it
01:00:45
would be 3 to five. It it could be more. >> It could be zero. It could be zero. It
01:00:49
could be it could be 20 years. We we you know that that is not for us to say. There is a there are court proceedings a
01:00:58
trial that would take place. They would determine if he's guilty or not. And if he is determined to be guilty, found to
01:01:04
be guilty, then it will be up to the judge or the jury or whatever the scenario is to determine what the
01:01:12
appropriate sentence is based off of those charges. But that's also why they stack so many charges because there's
01:01:20
normally some kind of deal because they don't want to put the child victim through more trauma. It
01:01:27
>> it's it's too difficult to say. I mean, it goes we've seen it go the pendulum
01:01:32
swings wide in both directions, my friend. Unfortunately. Unfortunately. >> Yeah. But whether it happens to a child
01:01:40
or whether it happens to adult, I just think the there needs to be stricter penalties and stricter
01:01:50
sentences of we have to do something to deter these sick individuals. >> 100 I 100% agree. Um but again,
01:02:00
unfortunately, we've seen both sides of that. We've seen people serve six months. We've seen people get life
01:02:07
sentences for for rape, for sexual assaults. Um, >> the other portion of the pre-trial
01:02:18
hearings that included some evidence or not included evidence is dash camera memory card. A dash camera memory card
01:02:27
was in question. So, arguments were heard over the loss or destruction because they don't know what happened to
01:02:33
it. a memory card from a dash camera and how that could affect the case. So, it would be the dash camera of the
01:02:41
responding officers to the shooting site. Nobody can seem to find it. They don't know if Look, it would be protocol
01:02:50
for it the camera to have a memory card to be up and running and then that would
01:02:56
have been filmed would have been recorded. you pro you would have been able to hear conversations on there,
01:03:02
statements, verbal statements on there, but that doesn't exist today to go to court when Aaron Spencer faces his
01:03:12
trial. >> Well, in fairness to law enforcement, those little cards are tiny. >> Yeah, but this is where things get so
01:03:18
damn dicey with this case. You could, the reason why this is part of the pre-trial hearing is because you can't
01:03:26
have a jury here that, oh, this card may have gone missing on purpose to benefit Aaron Spencer. Maybe he said
01:03:37
and did some things at the scene that are going to make it look like he's guilty of more than just protecting his
01:03:43
family. The part of that that gets so dicey is if someone in law enforcement went out of their way to risk their own
01:03:52
neck to protect him by destroying or losing this memory card if it did exist and if it was up and running at the
01:04:00
time. But then this is the same outfit that is charging him arresting him for murder.
01:04:06
>> Well, they arrested him, but isn't it up to the prosecution if they follow through with the
01:04:12
>> Correct. But Correct. But it's it's hand and glove. It's I mean it's >> it's the same thing. So th this case we
01:04:20
wanted to spotlight this case for obvious reasons. I don't think we need to sit here and justify us covering this
01:04:25
case. This is a case that is going to get you riled up if there are people out there that believe that that Aaron
01:04:33
Spencer should be facing a trial. And I can look I can side with some of that argument. There are other people that
01:04:40
say he shouldn't have ever been charged at all. I think I think personally what I do not mind happening I I don't
01:04:49
love that he was charged. I I I but I'm not going to die on that hill. I I'm I'm fine with this getting sorted
01:04:59
out by in the courts. Well, that's my speculation on the prosecution that my big issue with it is what whatever state
01:05:07
you live in and whatever country you live in, I don't want to live in one that I don't that I don't have the right
01:05:13
to protect myself and I don't have the right to stop a crime that's happening right in front of me, especially one
01:05:22
that is happening to my child, especially when that child is already a victim of this individual.
01:05:30
We need to have that, right? And and you can there you can make so many analogies. Somebody bust into your house
01:05:39
and maybe they're just going in there to rob you, but you don't know that at the
01:05:45
time. You should have the right and you should feel confident and safe that if you protect yourself and something
01:05:51
happens to this individual, well, guess what? That's their fault. that it's this pedophile's fault that he
01:05:59
kidnapped this girl. >> Absolutely. >> And and the father stopped the crime from happening and he wasn't being a
01:06:06
vigilante. A vigilante would have said you you charged him with 43 counts and then you let him out on bond and on his
01:06:16
way out of prison I kill him or I track him down at his house and I kill him. Aaron Spencer did not put himself into
01:06:25
this situation. That pedophile did. And And I just don't I don't want to live in
01:06:30
a state. I don't want to live in a country that that's not okay. That you can't protect yourself or your family
01:06:37
member or even somebody you don't even know when a crime is taking place. Again, we we say it all the time on the
01:06:46
show. last week were saying if you know something, it's your duty as a human to say something. If you recognize this
01:06:54
individual in the Lane Bryant murders that killed five innocent people and almost killed a six, if you recognize
01:07:04
this piece of [ __ ] it is your obligation as a good human to come forward, tell law enforcement, and if
01:07:12
you don't, guess what? You're a piece of [ __ ] And before we dove into this case,
01:07:17
I I heard, you know, some rumblings about it, but I just thought it was a situation where his daughter was a
01:07:25
victim. They they charged the individual. They're awaiting trial and then this guy
01:07:33
went out and hunted this guy down. That's just what I assumed before we looked into it. So going in, I was I had
01:07:42
some confliction where I'm like, well, I understand what he did and why he did it. And then you question that in
01:07:48
yourself. Would I do something like that? Would I would I hunt down the pedophile that raped my daughter? But
01:07:57
that's not what happened. And and and the more I looked into it, the more I was like, I'm not on the
01:08:06
fence about any of this. And I don't understand why the prosecution is charging him. Like I said, I
01:08:14
understand you arrest him, you bring him in for questioning, and you look at the
01:08:19
evidence, but however you stack it, he's either in his rights as self-defense or in the
01:08:28
defense of somebody else. And it's not just somebody else. It's his 14-year-old daughter that was raped by this piece of
01:08:38
[ __ ] And again, go back to the statistics. If he doesn't find that truck, are we
01:08:46
telling a different true crime story today? I think so. >> Where I want to be clear here. I'm not
01:08:51
sitting on any fence. >> No. No. And I'm not saying that you are. where I think people get where I think
01:08:56
people get motivated for a prosecution here is the it boils down to the facts of the case, right? So, one portion of
01:09:06
the facts of the case is that in July, Aaron Spencer goes to a person to obtain this man's contact information, his his
01:09:16
address, and in some reports state his phone number as well. And every report says the same that he told this person
01:09:25
that he was seeking that information from, "Do not call the cops." That is implying that that this man probably was
01:09:33
going to take take justice into his own hands. Now, the part of that that is every dad and and every mom out there is
01:09:43
going to not have a huge problem with that. Okay? So, let's let's just clear that. Most
01:09:48
people I mean we don't even have to put it in the category of parent or non-parent.
01:09:53
>> Most people would be okay with that. >> The issue there then becomes >> this man technically is innocent by our
01:10:00
system by our society is innocent until proven guilty and therefore going after him does not allow that to play out. You
01:10:10
could be harming, killing a man who may in fact not be guilty of what someone has
01:10:20
accused him of. >> Absolutely. >> I think that some people have a problem with Aaron Spencer's later actions based
01:10:28
off of Yes, that that conversation took place. Yes, police told him you can't take matters into your own hands. But
01:10:37
where you should pump the brakes and stop having a problem with it is exactly to what the captain is saying. Several
01:10:44
months went by and he didn't do that. He He could have gone >> Yeah. >> and done something. He didn't. It was
01:10:52
only when his daughter was found and located in the middle of the night in the passenger seat of that offender's
01:11:00
vehicle that he had to defend his family. >> Well, and think about this. Let's say
01:11:08
there was no 43 charges. Let's say this 67year-old never existed in the Spencer's family's
01:11:16
life until that night. kidnapped a child, 70 to 80% of them will be dead within three hours.
01:11:28
So you can go there's a crime taking place, a kidnapping, possibly attempted murder,
01:11:36
possibly a rape. You should have the right to protect that individual from not becoming another statistic.
01:11:47
One of the biggest defense is what you just said. There was three months. You were ordered
01:11:56
to not make contact with this child. You were ordered to not make contact with this family.
01:12:05
And you did. And you broke the law. And that and that's why you ended up dead. The trial,
01:12:15
which will start January 26th, it's been said that it's expected to be a 5-day trial. I anticipate that it might go
01:12:26
lengthier than that. I think that, look, there's a lot at play here. There's a lot of things to analyze. There's a lot
01:12:33
of things for the jury to take into consideration. I hope that both sides are able to be fully transparent. And I
01:12:42
hope that the court does not handcuff either side in what they can present at court. And I think that the jury, this
01:12:50
is one that truly needs to be decided by members, citizens of our society, by by
01:12:57
peers. And I do not I I do not uh envy the position of any of the jury members here. I think that, like I said when we
01:13:07
started the show, I think there's probably a lot of the citizens of the county that are very happy that they
01:13:12
were not chosen for this jury because even though there's a lot at play here, there's a lot at
01:13:19
stake, there's there's a lot to analyze, there's a lot of decisions to be made, this is one that that look, what's right
01:13:29
and what is wrong does not always perfectly align with what is lawful. and what is criminal? And that's the
01:13:38
major question that hangs in the balance. [music] [music] Well, Colonel, that was uh that was a
01:13:57
tough episode, a doozy. >> But we want to thank everybody for joining us here in the garage. Thanks
01:14:02
for telling your mother. Thanks for telling your brother. Colonel, do we have any recommended reading for the
01:14:06
beautiful listeners? >> I'm going to give you a little bit of recommended listening that will also
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play out to some recommended viewing. If you have not, we understand life gets busy. Life gets in the way. You don't
01:14:18
always get to enjoy the True Crime Garage every single episode. But if you have not checked it out yet, a lot of
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praise, a lot of great feedback that we are receiving. Couple weeks ago, early January, first week of January, we
01:14:33
released two episodes. One titled Best of True Crime and the other Best of True Crime Garage 2025. In Best of True
01:14:41
Crime, the captain and I, we sat down and we discussed three of our favorite true crime docue series or documentaries
01:14:49
that came out in the 2025 calendar year. So, that will give you plenty of recommendations for recommended viewing.
01:14:57
And then for recommended listening, our episode, the best of true crime garage of 2025 was us sharing some of our
01:15:05
favorite episodes, whether it be episodes that we really enjoyed researching, piecing together, working
01:15:12
on together, recording for you. These were our favorite or episodes that we were most proud of of 2025, ones that
01:15:21
you may have missed. So, go back and check that out. It's it's it's listening on the lighter side. It's not such heavy
01:15:28
stuff like we were talking about here today. So, check out those two episodes of True Crime Garage and then enjoy all
01:15:34
those great recommendations that came along with both of those glorious episodes.
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