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chair grab a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] Katha Bowman was 37 years old when she
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went missing authorities were not able to charge anyone in her slang and that remains True to this day here Captain 30
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years later gatha was well liked she was a 1974 graduate of Utica high school she
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attended Ashland University here in Ohio she earned an associate degree and in her career she was a director of
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respiratory therapy at a hospital this before the early 90s when she started a medical business named pre-medica she
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was the mother of two children and the stepmother of two more before she went missing the general timeline and we went
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through some of the details of this in our coverage yesterday but on February 15 1993 gatha Bowman left work
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the business that she owned pre-medica Health Care at 6 45 pm she supposedly had a business meeting
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that evening or that night but never disclosed where or with whom the following day February 16th gatha's
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ex-husband Greg reports her as missing saying that she never picked up her children from the babysitter's home
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the following day on the 17th of February gatha's snow-covered van was found outside of the Best Western motel
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on Laver Road this again just one and a half to two miles away from her home and
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not terribly far from her business either then we fast forward to March 16th of the same year 1993 when a Delaware
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County engineer finds gatha Bowman's body in a gravel pit or near a gravel pit in Delaware County as we said
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yesterday this is a county that is separated by another County from Richland County where she
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went missing about 50 miles away from home someone had attempted to conceal the body there and police said outwardly
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right from Jump Street that they had no reason to believe that she was killed where she was found in fact they had
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reason and such evidence to suggest that maybe she was killed elsewhere and this
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for a lack of a better term was simply a Dumping Ground so like the colonel was saying she went missing from one County
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her body her remains are founded in different counties so now we have two Sheriff
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departments that are working this case yeah and this is where things get even more complicated and sometimes it's
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great to have multiple agencies working the same case and sometimes it's not it's hard for me to sit here and examine
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this investigation and determine who was doing a good job who was doing a not so great job or how well the two
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Sheriff's departments were working together keep in mind there are complications based off of just the time
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period in which she went missing and when she was murdered 1993 technology certainly wasn't what it
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is today and thus counties that are separated by roughly 40 or 50 miles that offers up
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its own complications into the joint what's reported as a joint investigation however what you do have is Richland
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County caught a case the case they caught was a missing person's case this one gatha Bowman was reported missing
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from her home from her business in Richland County Delaware County caught a whole different case same person Gaither
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Bowman however they have a homicide investigation to deal with so it what once was a missing person's case now
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becomes a homicide case it may have been easier for the public if it would have been fully handed over
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to Delaware County from but from what I've been told and from my understanding is that was not the case that while it's
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reported that this was a joint investigation that may be true in some facets of the investigation
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however it does not appear to be true in all cases here because it looks to me like Delaware County and Richland County
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were running two separate investigations on the same case but we don't have a good time frame of when gatha was killed
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because of the weather you talked about that yesterday but we do know that she was strangled and she was covered with
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trash in this location this Gravel Pit yeah so the trash came from to be clear came from Richland County
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and her body's recovered in Delaware County but that is the indicator to detectives that she likely was killed
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elsewhere and then transported to the location where she's later found the captain's absolutely right with in
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regard to that trash there's the dresses and such that are on that trash and detectives thought oh great this is not
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going to take long for us to solve this thing this the debris and the trash that
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is found with our victim might point us to who is responsible well because sometimes as we know and all the True
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Crime Community knows sometimes these killers are two messes that's right and thankfully so but in this case the
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addresses that were provided as clues or could have been Clues to the investigators in gaither's
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case were not addresses that led them to any particular suspect in fact from my understanding they end up figuring out
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that the trash likely was pulled from a dumpster from a business was just one more
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way of trying to hide and conceal gatha's body we've talked about this plenty of times here on the show and
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we've we get this information directly from Killers themselves their own words where they have said
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look the the the more that I knew a victim or this is coming from the mouths of several serial killers
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the closer the tie of the victim to me the perpetrator the greater the lengths I went to to
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concealing the body right if it was somebody I didn't know at all we could discard them on the side of the
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road and just continue on because there is nothing there would be nothing in the investigation that would lead the
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detectives from the victim to the perpetrator because it was a stranger complete stranger on Stranger crime
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those same Killers say the reverse if there was any direct connection from the from the victim to me I would go to
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Great Lengths to try to conceal the body because if they can never find the victim then they're going to have very
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little ways to tie it back to me to the perpetrator hear what I see is somebody going to
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Great Lengths to try to conceal this victim well one of the other problems with this case though is where her
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remains are found a person wouldn't have to have extensive knowledge of this area
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to know that it would be a good place to leave remains that's exactly right because if you hop off of the freeway
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there you are going to make a right which would take you West and within about a half a mile to one
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mile approximately you are in the sticks there are very few street lights if any
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at all you are in the sticks so you would see this this road this Dunham road you could only turn left onto it and it
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dead ends at some point and so a person very likely could have never have been there before in their entire life right
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and yet found this road drove down this road and thought that looks like that's my spot
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now keep in mind when we say going to Great Lengths to conceal the body the person that's
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trying to hide the body of Gaither Bowman may be under some kind of time constraints too they may not have today
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tomorrow and the next day to figure out what to do with this evidence how is the best way to hide and conceal
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this evidence so they hop in the vehicle they grab some trash and now we're going to figure
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out how we can conceal gatha now we get some more information here and what's weird in this case Captain is a lot of
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things well I don't think that really any of this information was ever designed or thought to be hold back
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information it's just this information didn't find its way to the public or wasn't released
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to the public until it went from being a missing person's case to a homicide investigation where a lot of times we
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will see hold back information starts to trickle out over the years or over the months after the case remains unsolved
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here it looks like they had a lot of this information or parts of this information and then later it's
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confirmed because think about this she's missing and for 30 days you have one agency investigating this missing
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person's case 30 days later when she's found in its rule to homicide you now have two agencies conducting their own
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investigation right so they're either doubling down on the same information or they're finding
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additional information that was not uncovered before previously now we talk about it being difficult to
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narrow down the time of death for our victim here and that would be very key to our timeline for our investigation
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but I don't think that it is I mean even though we have science and we have the coroner saying look
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she could have been killed the night she went missing she could have been killed last week
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because if you look at the weather for that month in which she was missing it rarely gets above freezing during that
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time period and so she's essentially being stored in a in a freezer just outside in this Delaware County open
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open air storage facility but it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out if nothing bad happened to Gaither Bowman
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she would have picked up her kids that night if nothing bad happened to Gaither Bowman on the 15th or the 16th she would
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have went to work the next morning so any detective can very quickly look at this and go you know what we're
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probably dealing with something that happened to her that night she was a good mom something prevented
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her from picking up her kids at night she was a good business owner something prevented her from going to work the
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next day now here's an article that starts to fill in some of the blanks here and stop
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me at any point here captain and we can tear through this as much or as little as you want to
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now this article says Richland County sheriff's deputies are asking for help solving the 1993 murder of a Mansfield
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woman whose body was found off of Dunham road in Delaware County Delaware County
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employee Tom I'll leave out his last name found the partially decomposed body of Gaither Bowman
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covered in garbage at the County Gravel Pit off Dunham road March 16 1993. the coroner and other lab results
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told us that she had been strangled but the coroner goes on to say that he didn't know exactly how she had been
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strangled Richland County prosecutor said authorities have had a difficult have had difficulty determining gatha's
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activities the night that she disappeared February 15th he said he is hoping that someone in Columbus or
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Delaware County might have seen Gaither that night that sounds weird to me super
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weird if she's covered in trash from Mansfield Ohio I don't know why the prosecutor up in Richland County would
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expect that maybe somebody from Columbus or Delaware County might have seen her that night or have
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you know it'd be different to say that hoping that somebody out of the area would have information but to have seen
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her interacted with her that night unless they're starting to hone in on who she was meeting with
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or or suspected of meeting with and I think we're going to get those answers here very soon but isn't that
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also strange to you we do know that she at least changed her clothes once to me that
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it seems like if you're going to have a business meeting and you're coming from work you just meet the individual in
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your business attire well and that's exactly right and you also get the snow here the snow is going to be big
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indicators on when her body was placed there and when her van when she either she parked her van or somebody placed
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her van where it was later found right so here we have Delaware County Sheriff's detectives saying there was
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snow under gatha's body indicating that it was snowing before the body was abandoned they went on to say that her
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body was found face down she had no shoes or coat on and one of her front teeth was shipped in half
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Bowman was wearing some expensive gold jewelry when the body was found this indicating that robbery robbing this
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poor woman stealing her valuables was not in the Killer's mindset yeah and you said that she they believed that she was
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strangled but we didn't say if if we thought there was any sign of sexual assault correct and and no report do
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they ever reference that and so my belief would be that no that was not a factor here in this case right which
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leads us to some some motive here no sexual assault and like you said she had some jewelry on her also strange that
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she has a crack front tooth makes makes you think that there was some kind of struggle or fight at least
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um happened before she was strangled well and without getting too much in the weed scene
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that chipped tooth very likely could have happened when she was placed where she was later afraid that that's a good
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point we know that she was found face down that's a chip that could have occurred
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by dropping her there yeah given how she's found I can't imagine that the killer went out of their way to place
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her there nice and neat and gently especially knowing that then they covered her in garbage this dumping site
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like you said it's you don't have to have a lot of knowledge of that area but it is a risky maneuver because it is a
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dead end and so there's a possibility that you have to go in there quickly dump the body and get out without
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somebody seeing you correct it that does seem risky but go back to what we were talking about before I think there's a
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high probability of whoever placed her there may have never been on that road before
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right they may not know that it dead ends they they may simply be out driving around looking for
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air quotes a good spot yeah back to what you were saying here captain and this is
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very strange this is weird movements of our victim here uh you referenced the different clothing found on the body so
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they go on here to say that gatha Bowman it was reported that she was wearing a pant suit
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when she was last seen at work on February 15th right when her body was discovered she's
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wearing a skirt and so openly in this report the authorities are saying that they
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think that she may have changed her clothes possibly in her van before this scheduled business meeting yeah and
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they're saying possibly but you'd think they'd have this information because if you find those pants the pantsuit in her
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van he would know obviously correct well and we're going to get back to this van
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and well we'll continue on with the van here but the van is is a big problem with this investigation and
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unfortunately Richland County did not handle the van in a great way so the Vans found the day after she's reported
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missing they look at it they examine it they give the van to gatha's husband Gary
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then she's found murdered 28 29 days later yeah mistake and again though I mean this
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her van is found she's reported missing but her van is found in their snow so there's probably other vehicles that in
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We Live in Central Ohio when it snows really bad or there's a decent amount of snow when you're driving to work or
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driving to Places You'll see cars on the side of the road you'll see cars that were abandoned so they might have had a
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decent amount of vehicles to deal with during that time period well and one thing that I want to point out here too
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is and this might be obvious to some but it's not so obvious to others when authorities are saying look she we
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have witnesses saying she left work wearing outfit a we find her body she's wearing
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outfit B right we are openly telling the public who we are currently asking for help
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we believe that she changed her clothes in her van before this business meeting and you said well if they would have
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found her other clothing in her van then they would know this statement does not mean that they
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did not find her other clothing in her veins you know when you're asking the public for help and especially in this
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in a homicide investigation you don't need a clue in every Tom Dick and Harry about it exactly what happened what you
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found or what you did not find what they have not found let's let's pretend for a
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second they did not find their her clothes in her van and in fact finding her clothes in her van would not 100
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guarantee to you as an investigator that she did in fact change her clothes in her family right what is clear what
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they're not finding is anybody saying yeah she went into the restroom at work and came out wearing a different outfit
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or yeah she was in my place of work or my business or she was at the bar or the hotel or wherever she came in one went
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in one door wearing one outfit and came out wearing a different outfit so that's
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what we don't have in the investigation but what we do have is like you said the the missing person
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report is called in by her ex-husband I think the lack of actions by her current
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husband is a little fishy really fishy a whole lot of fish just trying to be nice
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to the fish continuing on with the van and this report we get a little bit more information where it's saying that her
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van was found in the parking lot of the Best Western motel in Richland County it
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it says authorities believe Gaither Bowman was already missing when the van was parked at the motel I don't know how
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they they seem convinced of this but they are pointing out and once again referencing the snow saying that Bowman
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disappeared before they believe that Bowman disappeared before midnight on February 15th
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and because there was no snow underneath the van and there was snow on top of the van and
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it was snowing by midnight that night they believed that her van was placed there before midnight and
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obviously it remained there until after midnight and they believe stayed there the entire time that it was snowing well
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you wonder if law enforcement found any footprints in the snow these are people that were questioned by authorities and
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I want to be 100 clear here these are not suspects they are not even Persons of Interest these are people that they
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decided they should talk to when she was a missing B later found deceased it says those questioned by authorities
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include gatha's husband Gary her best friend Mary her 13 year old son Jason her ex-husband Greg
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Gary Bowman's Father Charles three employees at her medical supply business a local physician whose business she was
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trying to obtain and then numerous unnamed persons so it says numerous others with a reminder that no charges
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have been filed in in the case as of this report but going on to say definitively and for The public's
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information that they currently at this time did not have a prime suspect in gaither's case they're also not stating
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that they cleared any of these individuals correct and it would be I wouldn't expect them to to publicly
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announce anybody being cleared especially when we have so many questions in the timeline itself you
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know one detective told me once when I asked him on a different case I said hey did
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you did you clear anybody uh in this case and he said look you know we like like so many cases we don't clear
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anybody until the case is solved and he went on to say in fact that when he arrives on a crime scene there are only
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two people that are not Suspects himself and his mother [Laughter] what I find of Interest here captain in
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this later report that's coming out is the information that's coming from her employees at her work so we're getting
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again it's hard to say because now we have two agencies investigating this case where before we just had the one
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so is this new information that was gleaned by the new agency in investigating the homicide or was this
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old information that just never made its way to the public because either it was
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a unnecessary to tell them or B it might have been some kind of hold back information and the two things that come
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out from the employees at her work was one that it was not such a mystery of who she might have been meeting that
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night the business meeting was with this local physician whose business gatha and ProMedica her company was
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trying to obtain right right they're trying to become this physician this hospital or doctor's office medical
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supplier so this seems like a typical run-of-the-mill business meeting however this person's not a complete mystery to
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all involved they know who the physician is they spell they spoke investigators spoke with this physician right that's
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why they questioned him the other thing that comes out in this report was that there was an argument that was
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not so secret to the employees that took place the day that she went missing so they report to the authorities there was
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an argument that was that went on between gatha and her husband Gary at pre-medica that day what's weird here
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Captain is this depending on which agency you talk to they describe this argument
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differently now you only have three Witnesses and maybe each of those Witnesses had a
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different interpretation of this argument and maybe that's why we get varying stories but the very brief description
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one provided by Richland County Sheriff's Office they describe it as a violent argument that took place at work
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that day Delaware County describes it as a loud a very loud argument that took place that
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day [Music] [Music] all right we are back so much more to unpack in this complex case
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thanks so much for listening thanks for telling a friend cheers to you all and cheers to you Colonel cheers to you
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captain and cheers to all of the good people especially the ones sitting way in the back
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here's some detailed information on that that day and again I think we need to underline this circle it
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I don't think it takes Sherlock Holmes to figure out whatever happened to gatha happened that night
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or in the wee hours of the next morning and you almost have detectives outwardly
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saying this they they are saying that look because of how her van was found and because of the weather conditions that
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night we believe that she went missing or something happened to her and potentially her van was later placed
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there again we'll get back to that van but the information that we get much later in this investigation are saying
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that it was learned that gatha owed the IRS approximately eight to ten Grand in business related taxes
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now this sounds this may sound like a whole bunch of money but well it's not a ton for a business it's yeah it's back
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taxes but it's it's not a ton and then I don't think there's I don't think they put a ton of pressure on you to pay them
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off immediately you can kind of pay them through a period of time the business itself was successful so it seems like
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they would if not immediately have the means to pay this off they would at some point now back taxes what have you
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February 1993 that is going to be tax season for her business anyway so it's difficult for us to sit here and say
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how far in the rears were they with the taxes but it's believed that the argument that took place between her
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husband Gary and gatha at work that day may have been in relation to this money that the business owed to the IRS
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the employees went on to tell the authorities that Gary Bowman left primedica at 6 45 pm
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It is believed that he went and got his glasses repaired and it stated almost as
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fact here so my guess is somebody knew that information or Gary told that information to the authorities and they
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were able to back it up he goes on to say that he ate dinner and then came home and he was home about 8 20 p.m that
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night he says that when he arrived home gatha and the children were not at home he decided to go out and start looking
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for her stopping first at the Best Western motel where he told authorities he thought he had seen her van well this
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would go with the timeline a little bit here that we've been told by the authorities yeah but it's very strange
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why wouldn't you just call the babysitter to see if she picked up the kids yeah but I I think we need to point
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out the obvious here this doesn't indicate that he didn't call the babysitter he's not gonna I would doubt
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that he would just willy-nilly just start going out and driving around looking for his wife and children he
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probably very likely reached out to the babysitter at this point but we do know he's out looking for her I think what
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the strange thing here is him telling authorities that he stopped at the Best Western motel where he told
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authorities he thought he had seen her van he says when he reached the parking lot
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he realized that it was not her van he then went into the lounge which would be that that bar that was uh in the same
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parking lot for about 15 minutes or so and then returned home he said that he fell asleep and then he woke up about 2
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A.M and this is when he realized once again that his wife and children still had not returned at this time he calls
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gaither's mother and he calls the babysitter this to try to locate the children as we pointed out that location where
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the van is found is not terribly far from their home it does not surprise me that this would be in his route when
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he's out driving around looking for his wife looking for his children what surprises me is to have a statement
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from the husband that says you know what I pulled in to the parking lot because I
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thought I saw her van there and then I got out of my vehicle I determined that it was not her van I go inside I had a
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drink and then I went home left the lounge arrives home around 8 20 or so falls asleep the problem with this
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statement is her van is later found in this parking lot so what the hell is it right was it her van
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or not I mean it's like the uh Princess Bride you hear this statement you go inconceivable
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how the how the hell can he tell authorities I stopped there because I thought I saw her van and then
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determined that the van I spotted was not hers and then later her van is found in this location so
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I I mean I can't wrap my head around this yeah is he just such a dumbass that he can't identify his own wife's fan
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or is it possible that he's like well somebody might have saw me at the at the Best Western so I need to place myself
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there that's what I think we have going on here because according to his own statement he went into the bar such a
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darn thing man to establish your own Alibi that's a Don thing you know you would expect that if well here it sounds
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like it's a Gary thing but you would expect that if he went into the lounge as he states to authorities that
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somebody would have seen him and then there's the other thing though too is you know we're reading these reports
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we're not there to question this individual and ask for the details could it have simply been that he was
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unable to discern 100 if this was was or was not his wife's van so he did go inside to see if she would be there
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right and then because she wasn't in there he decided that oh it's probably not her van a 1990 Dodge van is not an
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incredibly uncommon vehicle right it's weird to me that we have the ex-husband that's calling in the
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missing persons report well and also look it's the early 90s there's a lot of people with little stickers or bumper
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stickers and so it's like yeah there's a lot of vehicles that are the same vehicles but there's normally some kind
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of identifying marker you'd think that you'd know maybe some information of what her license plate said I agree with
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you 100 Captain I I that's the the biggest problem with Gary's story to me again
00:35:24
Princess Bride inconceivable to tell me that you went there and you purposely pulled into that parking lot because you
00:35:32
thought you spotted your wife's van somehow someway determined that it was not her van and then she's missing later
00:35:39
found killed and her van is found in that parking lot less than 48 hours after she left work
00:35:47
that day well and also less than a few hours after you were supposedly at her work and had this heated conversation or
00:35:56
the other report is a violent confrontation yes and that that's weird too now we do have the victim's mother
00:36:07
who openly stated that she was very unhappy with the investigation she is stating outwardly that there were
00:36:18
problems with the investigation from the first week she doesn't have a whole lot
00:36:22
of problems with the investigation as it took place going forward after it was known that this was a homicide
00:36:28
investigation she has a problem with how things were handled within that first week in particular the van the finding
00:36:35
of the van itself and then releasing it she is openly said to the public that she thinks that a lot of evidence a lot
00:36:43
of information was missed was lost and gone forever when they returned that van to Gary
00:36:51
Bowman well they returned it so quickly and and this is information we don't have
00:36:57
we're not privy to but it's like well what the what's the color of the interior and is it possible that there
00:37:04
was blood in the interior that maybe somebody just missed but you give it back to this individual that you haven't
00:37:11
really questioned and why didn't he call to report his wife missing I cannot for
00:37:17
the life of me figure out why he doesn't report her missing okay I can get over that fact what I can't get over
00:37:25
is that if I'm an investigator and I'm looking at this and I'm going husband doesn't call this in right we find the
00:37:32
van he's telling us he went to this parking lot a location that he told you he went to
00:37:39
we find this van later I I'm wondering what kind of search was done on this van it seems to me like
00:37:48
they just willy-nilly released it and probably didn't take good inventory or record of What observations they could
00:37:57
make on this van right and the other thing too I want to be clear here yes we're dancing around
00:38:05
the whole idea that Gary is probably a prime suspect or should be but definitely should be a person of
00:38:12
interest but regardless of who is responsible for this homicide it doesn't have to be Gary that killed
00:38:20
her for evidence in that van to have been lost like her mother is pointing out whoever the Killer is
00:38:27
there could be evidence that was lost against them regarding this van and the returning of
00:38:33
this van the timeline let's take it out a little bit further here so after the body is recovered in March of
00:38:42
1993 in July of 93 we start having investigators singing a different song we now have two suspects in Gaither
00:38:54
Bowman's homicide they do not name one of the suspects but if you're willing to read between the
00:39:03
lines and you don't have to read very hard you can see that they're almost openly
00:39:08
naming the second suspect and it hit me it's Gary Bowman and again they're not outwardly stating
00:39:18
100 percent they're not saying they're not putting those words in the same sentence Gary Bowman is a murder suspect
00:39:23
but what they are saying is we have gone to Gary we've asked him to submit blood
00:39:33
we've taken blood from this person and we are now going to be conducting tests conducting DNA tests
00:39:40
we have the DNA from our two suspects and we're thinking that these tests once we get
00:39:49
the test back it's going to tell us who did it it's either person a or person B we've narrowed it down to
00:39:56
person a or person B and based off of the DNA evidence we think that it's going to tell us which of these two
00:40:03
people so what the problem here in the investigation became that they could not you asked
00:40:10
about clearing somebody they could not clear either of these two individuals there was evidence to suggest that
00:40:20
one of these two people was the last person to see Gaither Bowman the evidence unfortunately could not
00:40:27
clear either person okay so when we look at Gary again very strange he doesn't call
00:40:34
in a missing person report on his wife he does have a alibi for leaving the business and he went to get his glasses
00:40:44
fixed but after that by his own Omission he has no alibi so if we're thinking that this murder
00:40:54
took place that night or at least she was kidnapped that night he doesn't have a solid Alibi and then
00:41:01
this other individual who I have to believe is the physician that she told some people she was going to go meet
00:41:08
right which would make the most sense then it makes you wonder well maybe he didn't have a solid Alibi either
00:41:15
and you have to believe that right unless unless they have something in the investigation saying that she met up
00:41:21
with some unknown person or let's say went into the bar and somebody approaches her
00:41:28
the thing is though they don't have any information or any evidence suggesting any of that their evidence suggests to
00:41:35
them that the last person to see Gaither Bowman that night was either a this physician
00:41:42
or B her husband and so you're saying that they took DNA from both these individuals they test it and they can't
00:41:52
there's no conclusive answer yeah and so let me give up a a little bit of insight
00:41:58
on that and this is this is just the kernel here reading between the lines okay there was a struggle
00:42:08
there was a struggle that took place we had already said that the coroner says well she was strangled but we don't know
00:42:14
how she was very likely strangled just somebody wrapping their hands around her neck right
00:42:23
after a struggle took place so there was a struggle and look I'm making a lot of inferences
00:42:30
here but I think a lot of them will make some sense once we go through them because we have
00:42:38
two individuals that we cannot clear either and I think you are exactly spot on here Captain I think there's a
00:42:45
problem with The Alibi of both of them we have her husband who openly admits that after a certain time that night he
00:42:52
has nobody to account for his whereabouts we also have this physician who it is stated that she was going to go
00:43:01
meet that night he says that they did not meet that night and he had met her in the past but did not meet her that
00:43:07
night mm-hmm obviously there has to be some problems with his Alibi because they're still
00:43:14
interested in this dude now basing the idea off of there being a struggle and that one of these two
00:43:20
individuals was the last to see her 's my thoughts nowhere ever is sexual assault
00:43:27
ever mentioned in any of the reports so I don't believe that they believed that that took place
00:43:34
what I do think that they have evidence of and they're not outwardly saying it is that if a struggle took place she
00:43:42
very likely may have the Killer's DNA skin scrapings what have you underneath her fingernails
00:43:50
right now here becomes the problem for your investigation one would expect to find her husband's DNA
00:44:00
under her fingernails very likely right very possible yes we know this from other homicide victims we
00:44:10
know we know this from other cases you could there are cases where victims went to school all day long and they find DNA
00:44:17
or some kind of evidence underneath fingernails of of persons that had nothing to do
00:44:22
with their homicide right what I believe these tests were as to rule in or rule out this physician
00:44:33
right because you might expect again it's not 100 but it's also not out of the realm of possibility you might
00:44:42
expect to find DNA of the husband underneath the fingernails whether he's responsible or not but you wouldn't
00:44:50
expect to find the Physicians especially if he says he did not meet her that night
00:44:57
so when these tests come back the best thing for your investigation is for it to match up to the physician
00:45:03
because then that tells you he lied to you that tells you his story is wrong he lied to authorities now he has just
00:45:12
separated himself from the other suspect this case is unsolved 30 years later they've never publicly said what the
00:45:20
results of those tests were but I can tell you what those results were because it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to
00:45:25
figure out that Tess came back and did not show evidence of this physician or we wouldn't be sitting here 30 years
00:45:32
later with an unsolved case yeah because they would have made the arrests he already made the statement and I didn't
00:45:37
meet up with her that night there's no reason for her his DNA to be under her fingernails or on her person and if they
00:45:44
found that DNA they'd make the arrest no solid Alibi and your DNA that's enough to go to trial the problem again with
00:45:53
the suspicious behavior of her husband is you can explain away the DNA where gatha's mother is absolutely correct
00:46:02
when gatha went missing if they would have questioned everybody initially and then search the person but maybe there'd
00:46:09
be some wounds on Gary and then it would be a lot harder to explain away the DNA
00:46:16
I I agree with her mother that a lot of this the missteps were the initial week of the investigation
00:46:24
Richland County didn't know exactly what they were dealing with so we got to say that in their defense
00:46:31
however they could have handled this van situation much differently and they could have looked at the
00:46:40
early facts in the investigation and their missing persons investigation and probably looked at it very differently
00:46:48
given the facts that we now know the facts it came to light to to became public information well this is a this
00:46:54
is a mother of two correct this is this is a successful business woman correct if I'm law enforcement I'm trying my
00:47:02
damndest to get a search warrant for that vehicle I'm trying my damndest to get a search warrant for the for her
00:47:07
business and anywhere that she would operate that business I would be getting I would
00:47:13
be trying my damnedest to get a search warrant for our house and to question and and search her husband
00:47:21
it you know it it sucks because we see this so many times in cases where they find a abandoned vehicle
00:47:29
and because they deal with that so often that they just go well it the the owner's gonna turn up not that big of a
00:47:40
deal but in this case it's a little different because we have a missing person before you find the vehicle gatha Bowman
00:47:47
age 37 disappeared 30 years ago next week the case is still unsolved Delaware County Sheriff's
00:47:57
Office is still investigating her homicide if anybody has any information you can call police desperately want
00:48:05
information about this case and I believe as said in the trailer of yesterday's show I
00:48:12
believe and I know the captain believes that one probably two or three people have
00:48:18
some information that they've just not been will that they've just not been willing to release or to give to
00:48:24
the authorities Delaware County Sheriff's Office is still investigating this homicide if anybody has information
00:48:30
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