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July 17, 2019 / 57:17

This episode covers the murder case of Patrick Dennehy, a basketball player at Baylor University, and the subsequent arrest of his teammate Carlton Dotson. Key topics include Dennehy's background, the events leading to his disappearance, and the investigation that followed.

Patrick Dennehy, born in January 1982 in Santa Clara, California, was a talented basketball player who played for the University of New Mexico before transferring to Baylor. After a series of conflicts with teammates and coaches, Dennehy went missing in June 2003. His disappearance raised concerns among friends and family, leading to a missing persons report.

On June 25, 2003, Dennehy's vehicle was found in Virginia Beach, Virginia, raising suspicions about his whereabouts. Carlton Dotson, Dennehy's roommate and teammate, was later arrested for his murder. Dotson claimed self-defense, stating that Dennehy had pointed a gun at him before he shot Dennehy twice.

The investigation revealed that Baylor's basketball program was involved in NCAA violations, with head coach Dave Bliss attempting to cover up the situation by blaming Dennehy posthumously. Dotson was ultimately sentenced to 35 years in prison.

This case remains controversial, with questions about Dotson's mental state and the circumstances surrounding Dennehy's murder still unanswered.

TLDR

The episode discusses Patrick Dennehy's murder and Carlton Dotson's arrest, revealing NCAA violations and unanswered questions about mental health and motives.

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and what you then you can't be of any use to anybody [Music] [Music] January 1982 Santa Clara California a
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baby is born this is Patrick James Dennehy Patrick grew up to be tall and athletic he played basketball on the
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Wilcox high school team located in Santa Clara as a sophomore Dennehy averaged 20 points 14 rebounds
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and 8 blocks a game afterward he transferred to st. Francis High School and Mountain View he was rated a
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1999-2000 high honorable mention all-american by Street and Smith's magazine this despite missing half of
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his senior season due to a torn ACL an injury that required surgery the high school star athlete then went on to play
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college basketball a scholarship player at the University of New Mexico where he
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was listed as a 6-foot 9 inch tall back up forward as a freshman he played in 33
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games and started to and was named the school's Most Improved Player as a sophomore in 2001 2002 Dennehy now
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listed as a center started 28 games and played in 30 in total averaging 10 points 6 points 7.5 rebounds per game
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and was named all Mountain West Conference honorable mention but remember friends the fall is always
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a lot faster than the climb Patrick Dennehy got into hot water with his coach and teammates this is after he
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stormed out of a practice leading Patrick Dennehy to be kicked off of the basketball team but Dennehy made enough
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of an impact on his team and in his conference finishing 5th in the conference and rebounds that he's going
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to get another opportunity he was offered a roster spot on the University of Baylor's basketball team where per
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league rules he would be required to sit out a year for making the transfer Baylor a proud Baptist University
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this is where Dennehy made a religious and personal transformation then after sitting out for a year
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Patrick Dennehy now 21 years old six foot ten inches tall and weighing 230 pounds was ready to play for the Baylor
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Bears in the upcoming 2003 2004 season and it was looking like Baylor was ready to try to make a run at not only
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defeating the big dogs like Texas and Kansas but making a run at winning the big 12 championship this team seemed to
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be full of transfers from other colleges one of those transfers was Carlton Dotson Dotson played for Paris Junior
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College in East Texas and transferred at the same time as Dennehy but per league
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rules Dotson was allowed to play immediately Carl Dotson in his first year playing for the Baylor Bears played
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in 28 games and averaged almost 16 minutes a game but in 2003 a new junior college transfer was making his way to
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Baylor this is Harvey Thomas head coach Dave bliss believed Harvey Thomas was the missing piece and informed Carl
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Dotson that his playing time was going to go down significantly Dodson was going to leave the team and university
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and transfer again if he could find a school in early 2003 Carl Dodson and his wife split up Dotson goes to live with
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his good friend and teammate Patrick Dennehy in an apartment at some point Dotson answers an ad this is for a
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breeder who is selling pitbull puppies Dotson and Dennehy go to a farm to check out the pups they're the two become
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friends with the property owners this is Darren and Tammy Cox but hold on to your
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horses because it's gonna become a bumpy ride pretty quick Dodson and Dennehy they go to their coaches with a
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complaint and this is not your normal type of complaint yeah they're not talking about basketball or things
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related to their time playing their court time any of that this is more serious this
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they are saying that $300 was stolen from their apartment and that they were being threatened by some of their other
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teammates it does not appear that any action was taken regarding these complaints but we know that these
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complaints took place so these young men are going to take action into their own
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hands On June 2nd 2003 they tell friends that they have purchased guns to protect
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themselves after the five day waiting period on June 7th Dennehy and Dodson show one of their doggy friends Darren
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Cox two guns they say were purchased because they were concerned about their personal safety they asked if they could
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practice shooting these guns at the farm and permission was granted yeah On June 11th Dennehy's other roommate
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Chris Turk leaves for a trip Patrick Dennehy makes a long-distance call to his girlfriend in Albuquerque
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this is longtime girlfriend Jessica de la Rosa on June 12th Patrick Dennehy attends his final class
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of the year two days later Dennehy tells his friend Daniel that he is worried about threats to Carleton
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Dotson by two of their teammates he also tells Daniel that both he and Dodson will meet him at a party the next day
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but neither Dennehy or Dotson ever show up to this party so you have these roommates that go to their coach saying
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hey we've got $300 that are missing and now we're getting these threats now I'm assuming that now that they're you know
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worried about these threats that are coming from quote-unquote teammates were these the threats that they talked about
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to their coach earlier it appears that all of this is the same stemming from all the same story right the next day on
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June 15th Dennehy's mother and stepfather they find it very odd that they didn't hear from Patrick Dennehy on
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that day this is Father's Day yeah and he does not call home to to speak with his father on June 16th the other
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roommate Chris Turk and I say other roommate because remember we have Dennehy and Dotson and Chris Turk living
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there yeah this Chris Turk he returns from his out-of-state trip and finds that Dennehy's dogs have not been fed in
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what he says he believes to be days now a few days go by and Patrick's parents still have not heard from their son and
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in fact they are in the process of trying to track him down they want to know why they've not heard from him
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where could he be what's going on with this young man well after talking with Patrick's friends and his girlfriend
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they decide to step up the search and they actually report Patrick Dennehy missing on June 19 2003 now is any Beira
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porting Carlton missing no no one is reporting Carlton missing and this is also why I included some of the events
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leading up to when he's actually reported as missing so we have the other team the other roommate Chris Turk
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saying hey I left for this trip and when I left everything was normal everything
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was fine right and we know that Dennehy spoke to his long-distance longtime girlfriend and everything was fine then
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everything was fine they were actually planning on when they would see each other remember he had attended his last
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class of the year but he might have meant mention the threats to her or do we do we know that I don't know that he
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did there's nothing to state that he did but what we do know is when Chris Turk returns from his an estate trip he's
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like look that's when things appeared weird to me everything was fine when I left I get
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back and his dogs appear to be starving yeah they've not been fed in days and oh
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by the way nobody has heard from Patrick Dennehy including his parents who is very close to not calling on Father's
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Day and his girlfriend that he was very close to has not heard from him since that last phone call right the dogs
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maybe I mean a little Frank he he acts like he's starving all the time even right
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after he just ate so but big red flag to go hey here's this guy that you know is
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getting on track to to play some basketball seems like a good guy why didn't he call
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home Father's Day hmm well now we have the Waco Police Department they're involved because now we have a
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missing-persons report that has been filed so on June 23rd the Waco Police Department they file an affidavit
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seeking a search warrant this is for Dennehy's computer they want to get into that computer see what was going on see
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if they can find a trail of breadcrumbs to lead them to Patrick Denny yeah now this next part certainly scared
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the hell out of Patrick's friends and family because on June 25th so this is six days after he is officially reported
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missing to police on June 25th Patrick Dennehy's Chevy Tahoe is found in a mall parking lot now this is way
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out in Virginia Beach Virginia hmm so not only would the 1,400 miles distance and the 21 hours of driving time scare
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the hell out of me but the the vehicle is also found without license plates yeah this is not good so somebody moved
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this vehicle this great distance 1,400 miles and tried to conceal it by removing the license plates police don't
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know how it ended up there or who moved it there or if in fact it could have even been Patrick himself yeah
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but then just two days later a statement is issued by police saying the potential
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suspects in this missing-persons case include Patrick's teammates in relation to this statement amongst other aspects
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of this investigation a st. Petersburg Florida attorney who is known to have represent athletes says he has been
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hired by one of Patrick's teammates this is Patrick quote-unquote friend and roommate
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Carleton Dodson the attorney says Carleton Dodson is at his home in Maryland and will not discuss the case
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well that's interesting right what's very close to Virginia Beach Maryland and this poor young man has gone missing
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in Texas during all of this the authorities back in Waco Texas have been conducting ground and aerial searches
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looking for the young man now most of these are conducted in large areas some of which are large open areas and they
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seem to be focusing in on three areas in particular one of them being the Cox farm where right so this is where they
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became friends with the people that were selling the puppy the puppies right and
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they also got permission once they became friends with these people to to shoot guns and target shoot and practice
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shooting these guns on their property well we got a bunch of weird stuff going on we have these two athletic men but we
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got three that are living together but everything seems fine other than there was some money missing and that we have
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possibly some threats happening so then these guys feel threatened enough that they're going to get guns to protect
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themselves and now we have one of the one of the basketball players car is 1,400 miles away right and we have his
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roommate his quote/unquote friend saying hey I'm not talking about this and so July 9th we have Dennehy's mother coming
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out and saying the coaches told her that her son said he was being stalked so I wonder if that's something he said when
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he said hey somebody took this money we're being threatened and I'm being stalked I wonder if that's when he told
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the coaches about that well and according to ESPN Patrick's mother said that the she and her husband they regret
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that their son never alerted them about his fears stating that if he had Dennehy stepfather said quote I would
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have been on the first plane to Waco on July 17th Carleton Dotson has a meeting at the Dorchester County Sheriff's
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Office in Delaware after which no charges are filed in Carleton walks out of this meeting a free man the next day
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a maintenance worker at an apartment complex found and turned over to police a handgun this is the apartment complex
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where Harvey Thomas remember the new kid in town the believed to be missing piece on the
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Baylor basketball team this is where he lived but then in a strange and surprising twist to some but not to all
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on July 21st Carleton Dodson is arrested in Maryland and charged with the murder
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of Patrick Dennehy no this is this goes down in a very weird manner okay so as soon as police come out cuz hold on
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because we have these two friends that live together they both go to the coaches they they're fearful enough they
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say there's threats they're fearful enough that they get guns and and now he's being arrested with the involvement
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of his friends disappearance mm-hmm okay and remember he's in Maryland and when we when the attorney for Dotson first
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comes out to the median says look I'm representing Carleton Dodson now he's staying in his Maryland home he's not
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going back to Waco Texas and he's not going to be discussing this case with media at this time we do know that he
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has this meeting with the Sheriff's Department now he's still in his hometown he's not back in Waco Texas yet
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the weird thing that comes out here is when they interview him and they they allow him to leave they very quickly the
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Sheriff's Department very quickly tells the media that he didn't say anything incriminating
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during the course of this meeting he didn't say anything that led us to believe that or would give us more
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suspicion than we currently have right even though he's all these many miles away and the vehicle
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Patrick Dennehy's Chevy top Tahoe has found a lot closer to Carleton Datsun than where Pat went missing yeah yeah
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though arrest becomes it takes place because apparently Carleton Dodson called 911 dispatcher okay Dotson said
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he had an emergency and requested that the police be told where he was and how to find him now some of what Dodson said
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to police has not been made public because it pertains to his mental condition so protected information
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according to state law but what we learn is this he says he was hearing voices and that he was afraid for his life
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Dodson told police that people want to kill him because he is Jesus the Son of God I yeah if he's Jesus the Son of God
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people want to kill okay he said he was from a family of prophets and that he could see who was going to have him okay
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so this is a new skill above his basketball skills yeah something like that yeah so this is a strange turn of
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events to say the least you think right but look can I just point out the obvious hmm wake up this is not the
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first person from Waco that has claimed to be a prophet yeah what is in that water right right this that's a Gaul to
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drink the water in Waco on the next episode we will be sampling water from Waco thank you so this gets a little
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more involved especially on Carleton Datsuns part so he's essentially I guess turning
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himself in and I'm sure that it's not quite clear to police what he's turning himself in for other than the fact that
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he's saying hey I'm afraid people were gonna kill me yeah so they get this guy to the police department and they tell
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him hey you're safe here you need to tell us everything that's going on with you so we can protect you or or what
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have you and this is when they're realizing our suspicions were correct this Karl
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Dodson guy probably was involved with something that happened to Patrick Dennehy or he's aware of it right -
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which Karl Dodson never really denies killing Patrick Dennehy in fact he goes on to say that that he did kill Patrick
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Dennehy but this was in self-defense this was his argument was going to be a self-defense argument he says that at
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some point when they went out to target shoo-in to practice shooting these guns that Patrick Dennehy pointed a gun at
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Dodson and he even even pulled the trigger and Dodson says that the gun either misfired or didn't fire it off
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whatever happened right - which Karl Dodson responds by shooting Patrick twice we have this individual in custody
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he's not denying murdering Patrick Dennehy but he's already putting together a self-defense argument for
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whatever took place and then on top of that he's got some questionable things going on inside his head right so he
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believes that he's Jesus he also believes that he's he's from a family of prophets he also can tell whether or not
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people can go to heaven or hell and he is feeling threatened at some point though he's feeling threatened it's I'm
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trying to back it up a little bit because they're roommates is it possible that he is hearing this stuff in his
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head and he starts feeling that he's threatened and and so therefore therefore Dennehy
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starts filling that or is he just going based off of what if roommate says me because if you live with somebody any
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and you come home and they go a couple people called us and they're threatening us and you don't know your roommate to
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be he's not telling you that he's Jesus he's not telling you he's a prophet do you just believe that you see what I'm
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saying I maybe I'm reading too much into it but we have two individuals that go to coaches and say hey we felt
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threatened to individuals that buy guns was it justice it almost seems like a schizophrenia thing happening what
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Dodson is he taking that and making Dennehy believe him without without actual evidence I think you're really on
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to something here because some things that we got a factor in here as well Patrick Dennehy was not at Baylor
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University for a very long period of time yeah I mean he transferred there he sat out a year these two individuals did
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not live together for that the entirety of that time we have we have Dodson who was married he was living elsewhere it
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wasn't until his marriage fell apart that he ends up shacking up with Patrick Dennehy and this other guy Chris Turk
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you really have to question how well did Patrick Dennehy infact know Carlton Dodson right they before this this what
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is now believed to be a murder they only lived together a handful of months before this all went down and it gets
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very confusing here because I think you're you've really hit the nail on the head where you wonder if the the
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perceived threat by Patrick Dennehy is it just because it's the spillover factor from being roommates with this
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guy right because in the early reports it states something to the effect that well we have Patrick Denny he we have
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the other roommate who says he comes out and says Patrick Dennehy was concerned about
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threats that Carlton Dotson was receiving right is this and then as this Carlton Dodson later saying no no I'm
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they're threatening you - they're threatening all of us that live here right right you're in on this now
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somebody broke into our home and stole money we're not safe here I just children hide your wife hide your
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husband - and like you said they did go to police whatever was going on at this time whether it be real or something
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manufactured by Carlton Dodson or something that Carlton Dodson believed to be real we know that that Patrick
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Dennehy believed this enough that he went with Dotson to the coaches to report this on July 26th so this is just
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five days after Carlton Dodson is arrested police announced that they have found a badly decomposed body in one of
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the areas provided to them by Carl Dotson the medical examiner's office with later identified the body as
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Patrick Denny an early reports state that he died from gunshot wounds to the head Patrick Dennehy's funeral service
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is held in his home state of California about 300 people were in attendance at this beautiful ceremony at Jubilee
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Christian Church Center not far from his parents home this was a celebration of Patrick's life much more so than to
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mourn his death the space was filled with friends family teammates and of course his long-time girlfriend
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question for you this Carlton doc Dotson did he also create the easies but what I
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don't know what that is cuz you know Kanye West thinks he's a prophet and he created the easies the
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shoe well there there are a lot of complications with this week's case study and regarding just the case itself
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so the murder of young Patrick Dennehy a basketball player at the University of Baylor and the murder charges brought
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forward by the state against another Baylor basketball player or former basketball player whatever you want to
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call him yeah this opened up a can of worms and you know when you go to like somewhere like Costco or gfs and they
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have those giant canned goods yeah I would say this opened up a giant can of worms for the Baylor basketball per cost
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go sighs yeah so it turns out that the Baylor basketball program well specifically the head coach Dave bliss
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had violated several NCAA rules and regulations several players were receiving improper benefits and this was
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coach Bliss's doing one of these players was in fact Patrick Dennehy now I'm just
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going to refer to him as Dave bliss from now on because in my opinion he does not
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deserve to be called coach or deserved the title of a coach as a coach is someone who should be a leader and
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should be a teacher and he was working with young adults and in fact this this guy is so disgusting he's a complete
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weasel of a man that in order to cover up some of his own miss dealings yeah he was ready to hit a plan and his plan was
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to blame a lot of this on the murder victim Patrick Dennehy and we know this to be true because of a very good man
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that was in this in this case and this is assistant coach rouse so this distant coach one of many he is in these
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meetings with with Dave bliss and he's like wait my boss a lot of this stuff is not adding up what he's saying to us in
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these meetings right this dude does not seem to be on the up-and-up and this coach this assistant coaches
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learning of Mis dealings that he was unaware of it wasn't like that from from the top to the bottom
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everybody knew what was going on and in fact coach rouse what he gets he gets this great idea he's like you know what
00:35:11
this guy Dave bliss is a terrible person and I'm not going to go down with this guy so he starts bringing a tape
00:35:20
recorder to these meetings and you know then he comes up with this idea all on his own
00:35:26
yeah okay and so good for him so during one of these tape recorded conversations
00:35:33
between Dave bliss and assistant coach rouse well you can clearly hear Dave bliss stating a couple things that they
00:35:41
needed there were some tracks that they needed to cover and specifically this was $200 I'm sorry $2,000 that was made
00:35:51
as a down payment on the Chevy Tahoe that Patrick Dennehy was driving at the time of his murder the other thing that
00:35:59
they needed to clear up was $7000 in paid tuition paid for Patrick Dennehy's tuition so we got a couple problems here
00:36:11
you can't get a vehicle from your coach you can't get a vehicle from your basketball program and remember Patrick
00:36:18
Denny he was not on scholarship at Baylor well he was but it appears that some of his or all of his tuition was
00:36:25
being taken care of his he was under the table scholarship so what Dave bliss is
00:36:33
saying in this recorded conversation he said look we can blame all this on Patrick Dennehy because he's dead he
00:36:41
can't say anything he can't have a defense for this he can't tell them what actually was going on
00:36:47
so let's come up with an idea yeah of how we can cover up this $2,000 for the vehicle and $7,000 for the
00:36:57
tuition so you're gonna try to take this dead man and try to make some scandal that he stole money somehow
00:37:03
no Bliss wants to say that Patrick Denny he was a drug dealer and that he paid for the vehicle and for his tuition with
00:37:12
drug deals but we know that not to be true because we know this was manufactured by Dave bliss so what a
00:37:22
scumbag right you know like this is a kid that you're supposed to be mentoring this is a kid that you're supposed to
00:37:29
and look I understand he has it wasn't there a long time it wasn't like he had this long relationship with him but
00:37:36
because you're crooked you know well he used these offers to entice Dennehy to go to school there and play for the
00:37:44
basketball team yeah and I get it you know there's somebody out there listening right now
00:37:48
that's going well Patrick Denny he accepted that that misdoing yeah and I get I he was in the wrong for that too I
00:37:56
get that there's rules and regulations and and Patrick dinner he was he was breaking those rules and regulations but
00:38:02
the to the point where Dave bliss elevates himself to a whole new level of loser is when he's like oh I did this
00:38:11
stuff wrong this guy's not around to say anything differently because he's been murdered and oh we'll just we'll just
00:38:17
make up the story that he's a drug dealer and that's how he got the money right which also then puts some cloud
00:38:24
around his death yeah I mean like if you go all Patrick Dennehy he was involved in all this other stuff so okay well you
00:38:34
know we we don't know exactly what Carlton is telling us if it's true or not but uh but you know as drug-related
00:38:41
so no big deal I mean this is this coaches he's not a coach so some form of justice will prevail here regarding this
00:38:54
stuff with Dave bliss because on August 8 2003 Dave bliss and the Baylor athletic director Tom Stanton both
00:39:02
resigned Dave bliss was four to resign and MIT's allegations that he had violated NCAA rules by making
00:39:10
financial payments to four players and that he made improper statements to the media characterizing Patrick Dennehy as
00:39:18
a drug dealer the school placed itself on probation limited itself to seven scholarships for two years and imposed a
00:39:26
post season ban for one year additionally the NCAA further punished the team by initiating a non-conference
00:39:34
ban for the 2005-2006 season and extending the probationary period during which the school would have limited
00:39:43
recruiting privileges yeah but these guys resigned and they just move on to other dirty games yeah Dave bliss is
00:39:53
coaching elsewhere he's taken a significant step back in his in his career let's say but unfortunately and
00:40:03
this is not just America this is most of society we live in in a society where a
00:40:11
lot of people or at least some because there's evidence of such some people were willing to turn a blind eye to very
00:40:20
bad behavior and choose winning over character and it's just despicable so we won't we won't discuss Dave bliss where
00:40:29
he is now or what he's up to but his new name is turd Ferguson but for those of you that didn't know the the story
00:40:36
behind the story you now know who Dave bliss is what a bag of but our story our story's far from done here so on this is
00:40:49
in October Carleton Dodson was declared incompetent to stand trial this by a district judge and he was sent to a
00:40:57
state mental hospital to be evaluated and this evaluation the judge was going to allow for four months of evaluation
00:41:06
three psychiatrists including one appointed by the court said that Dotson appeared to be suffering from
00:41:13
hallucinations and psychosis but that he could regain competency to stand trial in the future
00:41:22
now in February of 2005 Dotson was returned to jail after psychologists deemed him competent to stand trial but
00:41:32
that he must continue taking his anti-psychotic medication the psychologist also said the Dodson's
00:41:40
accounts of hallucinations and hearing voices were quote suspect prosecutors and Datsuns defense team tried this is
00:41:50
this is just this part of the story isn't I don't ever remember us reporting this in any other case okay
00:41:59
prosecutors and Dodson's defense team tried to work out a plea agreement but could not agree on the terms of that
00:42:06
agreement so they're working on a possible plea agreement they can't agree on the terms I think that the the thing
00:42:14
that was really in question what they were battling on was the length of time that he would have to serve anyway no
00:42:21
agreement is reached but then on June 8th 2005 just five days before Datsuns trial for murder was to begin Dotson
00:42:32
unexpectedly pled guilty to killing Patrick Dennehy and to be perfectly clear this is without a deal Carlton
00:42:41
Dotson was sentenced to 35 years in prison and he will be eligible for parole in 2021 so this is a case that I
00:42:54
like to file under the solved but unresolved category for many reasons there's you you seem to have the answer
00:43:05
to what what went down and and somewhat how it went down but then you're left with all these
00:43:10
extra questions you know like was Carlton Dodson actually competent or incompetent was he did he know what he
00:43:16
was doing and this whole self defense or versus murder claim that's because this thing never
00:43:26
went to trial those are the answers that we do not have and we don't - we don't get to have them we really
00:43:34
can only just sit back and examine this thing and form our own opinions and conclusions yes this whole thing is
00:43:43
weird I mean go back to David bliss with or aka turd Ferguson the thing is is we
00:43:54
don't know if these claims or these threats were real so we don't even know if both people went to these coaches
00:44:02
unless we have assistant coaches meaning forward yeah there were it sounds to me
00:44:07
according to yeah but Patrick's mother's statement that the multiple coaches said
00:44:14
that there was something going on that there was complaints or that he was being stalked so it wasn't just Dave
00:44:20
bliss manufacturing this it sounds to me like multiple coaches were talked to by
00:44:27
these basketball players yeah but again we don't know but we don't know if those
00:44:33
are even real in a sense right but what I'm saying is let's say you have a problem and I don't know what it is and
00:44:42
I'm I'm not trying to take a giant leap here but just roll with me for a second you got a problem you have some shady
00:44:49
stuff going on in your program and you have this guy that you might think is going to be the the the [ __ ] in the
00:45:03
armor right and that that is Patrick Dennehy right and for whatever reason then you tell his roommate hey we got
00:45:11
these threats coming and then you got this money missing blah blah blah you know you're gonna get these guns then
00:45:18
you're gonna practice shooting them you're gonna kill him when you're out there you kill him when you're out there
00:45:23
you'll start saying that you heard voices blah blah blah and the reason why I say that's all that stuff seems so
00:45:31
made up is you have a third person that lived with them that didn't make any of these claims beforehand you know I mean
00:45:40
like he didn't say that his roommate seemed off that Carlton seemed off that that Carlton seemed like that he was you
00:45:48
know hearing voices doesn't say any of that so just all of a sudden magically roommate goes away and all the sudden he
00:46:01
thinks he's Jesus thinks he's from a family of prophets and then then kills his roommate it's just it doesn't make a
00:46:12
lot of sense no of course it does and then on top of that you got somebody that they're saying is confident to fit
00:46:19
trial or to stay in trial as long as he's medicated but that's even questionable and then all the sudden
00:46:26
they can't come up with a deal so there is no deal so I'll just plead guilty a lot of this doesn't make any sense like
00:46:34
we're missing pieces of the story right and that's why I point out that because this thing didn't go to trial that
00:46:41
leaves some of these questions is just unanswered they're open-ended questions that are unanswered so a couple things
00:46:49
here it's difficult in any of these situations when it's tough to form an opinion and sometimes I don't even think
00:46:59
that I should because I'm not the right guy not the right person for the job I can't tell you I'm not educated enough
00:47:08
or have or even have sat down face to face with Carlton Dotson to give you an opinion on his mental state it would be
00:47:16
foolish for me to do so so in that situation you just go you know I'm gonna leave it to the powers that be to people
00:47:22
through more interested parties that are better equipped to handle this type of thing the problem is they come out with
00:47:29
two different answers in my opinion he yes he's competent in the end after four months he's competent to stand trial as
00:47:38
long as he keeps taking this medication yeah so that doesn't really give you a clear understanding if if in fact he
00:47:47
believed if he was hallucinating and believed these threats or if he manufactured them to put Patrick Dennehy
00:47:55
in a position of vulnerability yeah because you know why what was his motivation well he's a loser
00:48:03
I ain't right but I don't even know if it's that simple and that's what that's what's creepy to me and I don't know if
00:48:10
it's that simple I may be it is no way that there's a whole university evolved in this and
00:48:18
there's coaches and there's hire beans yeah but I don't I don't feel like the coaches had anything to do with the the
00:48:24
murder of Patrick Dennehy what I'm getting at when and I know that I shouldn't just say it's so simple as
00:48:29
he's a loser that is just the the the introduction for my argument okay we have Carlton Dodson who is is leaving
00:48:39
the team he's not going to be playing on the team anymore he's just lost his wife
00:48:43
he doesn't have anywhere to live he doesn't have a job he doesn't have a team to play for and who's his buddy the
00:48:50
the kid that in his eyes probably has it all he's on the team he's getting improper benefits to be on the team he's
00:48:57
got a girlfriend he's got everything going for him that Carlton does not have going for him and
00:49:04
could Carlton have manufactured a reason to one let's get some guns too let's let's put him let's put this guy in a
00:49:15
place of vulnerability where we are out in the open by ourselves and maybe Patrick Dennehy's even walking around
00:49:23
with a gun that he purchased himself because here's the here's the thing if this whole case didn't fall apart very
00:49:31
quickly on Carlton Dodson you have to wonder if they would have found Patrick Dennehy a year or 18 months or two years
00:49:41
later out in this very remote location and he's out there with a with a gun do they go well maybe he killed himself
00:49:51
right maybe he shot himself in the head now where it gets to be difficult and I think where Carlton Dodson got scared
00:49:57
and realized that whole plan that I try to set an emotion is not going to work because I had to do a double tap I had
00:50:05
to shoot the guy twice and then on top of that according to the LA Times Patrick James Dennehy the second was
00:50:11
shot twice in the head and did not have alcohol in his system and another source states no
00:50:17
drugs were found in his system either the LA Times goes on to say both gunshot wounds were above the right ear the
00:50:25
first bullet exited Dennehy's forehead above the left eye the second exited behind the left ear according to the
00:50:33
autopsy by the southwestern Institute of Forensic Sciences and Dallas the report
00:50:39
does not say how long Dennehy had been dead but he was missing for about six weeks when his body was found on July
00:50:45
25th in a field near a rock quarry four miles south of the Baylor campus so I can't without this thing going to trial
00:50:55
and having somebody that's better educated to tell us and explain all this to us what I can say here is I don't
00:51:03
know that this that the wounds match up perfectly with Dotson story of he was aiming a gun at me and whether he was
00:51:11
joking around or whatever and it misfired or didn't fire whatever and then I shot him twice this almost looks
00:51:17
like somebody came up behind him stuck the gun to the side of his head or this was some kind of execution-style murder
00:51:26
yeah or which was which would never fall into place with the the self-defense argument that he's posing and that's
00:51:33
where it makes you wonder if he just at the last minute went I'm a real [ __ ] I don't want this thing to go to trial
00:51:42
because then all these other things are going to come out all the the the details of the story are going to be
00:51:48
filled in and at least if I go and plead guilty this way I have a system I have a
00:51:54
setup where it's I had a defense where I was I was losing it a bit I was hallucinating I didn't really know what
00:52:01
was going on and then on top of that he pointed a gun at me and I fired there's even there's even times when he's been
00:52:08
in prison and he's been interviewed and he said to the person interviewing him what would you do the guy was pointing a
00:52:15
gun at me right what would you do and I just wondered with the strange way of they were in talks they were in talks to
00:52:24
try to come to some kind of plea agreement it was never going to be that Carlton Dotson wasn't
00:52:31
going to be guilty of this murder but what was going to happen if this thing went to trial again the details the
00:52:38
blanks all that could have been filled in the story could have been completed and we might have had a better picture
00:52:44
if in fact Carlton Dodson was in fact competent or incompetent or if this self-defense argument has is even an
00:52:53
argument at all yeah it's it's very strange I mean on one aspect you want to go okay he drank too much of the Waco
00:53:02
water he thought he was Jesus he hallucinating even if it's not self-defense even if he
00:53:08
just hallucinatin there's that makes the story somewhat make sense and then you just okay call today and the thing that
00:53:18
came out was that that they were paying Patrick under the table and probably paying some other players under the
00:53:25
table and they got caught so the coach had to resign and then he moves on with his life that there's a one thing but
00:53:33
because because the evidence doesn't match up with his story and we don't know because there's multiple reports on
00:53:43
you know he's competent he's not confident you know was he hearing voices we don't know he just wonder if there's
00:53:51
something bigger here well in there there was that was the threats a set up in order to get the guns in order to get
00:54:00
them to be alone so then they could it just seems like we're missing some of the story and we'll probably always will
00:54:09
be missing it because I think Carlton's gonna sit there in prison and just rest on this idea I was hallucinating I was
00:54:18
hearing things he threatened me that's in the story well and there's people out there still to this day that question
00:54:27
could more than one person have been involved in the murder of Patrick Dennehy and no it doesn't seem to me
00:54:36
that anybody questions that the Carleton Dotson was involved or that the the Carlton
00:54:42
Datsun should be in prison for this murder nobody seems to be questioning that it's everybody feels like we just
00:54:50
don't have the whole complete story and we did mention that little story of a maintenance worker finding a gun in the
00:54:58
apartment complex of another teammate and so these things are just unfortunately it has to fall into that
00:55:06
solved but unresolved compartment there because I don't think I mean we're we're
00:55:13
two years away from Dotson's being eligible for parole we're not we're not getting we're not going to get the
00:55:23
answers to these questions this is how they are going to remain [Music] we want to thank everybody for listening
00:55:42
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00:55:48
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Episode Highlights

  • Patrick Dennehy's Transformation
    From a promising athlete to a troubled individual, Dennehy's journey was tumultuous.
    “The fall is always a lot faster than the climb.”
    @ 05m 24s
    July 17, 2019
  • Murder Charges Filed
    Carleton Dodson is arrested and charged with the murder of Patrick Dennehy.
    “Dodson said he had an emergency and requested that the police be told where he was.”
    @ 20m 02s
    July 17, 2019
  • Patrick Dennehy's Concerns
    Patrick Dennehy expressed fears about threats from Carlton Dotson before his murder.
    “Patrick Dennehy was concerned about threats that Carlton Dotson was receiving.”
    @ 26m 05s
    July 17, 2019
  • Dave Bliss's Scandal
    Baylor's head coach Dave Bliss was implicated in NCAA violations and attempted to blame Dennehy.
    “This opened up a giant can of worms for the Baylor basketball program.”
    @ 33m 09s
    July 17, 2019
  • Carlton Dotson's Guilty Plea
    Carlton Dotson pled guilty to killing Patrick Dennehy just days before his trial was set to begin.
    “Dotson unexpectedly pled guilty to killing Patrick Dennehy.”
    @ 42m 32s
    July 17, 2019
  • The Unresolved Murder of Patrick Dennehy
    The investigation into Patrick Dennehy's murder raises questions about Carlton Dodson's defense and the evidence.
    “We just don't have the whole complete story.”
    @ 54m 52s
    July 17, 2019

Episode Quotes

  • The fall is always a lot faster than the climb.
    Patrick Dennehy ////// 319
  • I would have been on the first plane to Waco.
    Patrick Dennehy ////// 319
  • I just children hide your wife hide your husband.
    Patrick Dennehy ////// 319
  • This opened up a giant can of worms for the Baylor basketball program.
    Patrick Dennehy ////// 319
  • This whole thing is weird.
    Patrick Dennehy ////// 319
  • I was hallucinating, I was hearing things, he threatened me.
    Patrick Dennehy ////// 319

Key Moments

  • Cheers to Listeners01:26
  • Basketball Star04:00
  • Missing Person Report11:23
  • Alarming Claims20:33
  • Murder Concerns26:05
  • Hallucinations and Defense53:02
  • Missing Pieces54:09
  • Recommended Reading55:53

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