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true crime foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] yes I'm at the crown uh Crown Plaza at
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O'Hare Airport and I was calling because my daughter came to this to a party here
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last night a gathering with a friend and um now her friends they say that they left
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on the front of the hotel and she's not able to be found now she's 19 years old and you said that this and as you
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at diesel Plaza I don't at O'Hare Airport yes and they said that when her friends
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was actually earlier today like about four o'clock in the morning because they can run the video cameras they said that
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they didn't have no camera but now I came in there was a lady she said that if she if she heard music and she she
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asked me did I want to go upstairs and we went upstairs on the 11th floor and it was someone came to the room and she
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said that she did see my daughter there with a group of girls and and a couple of guys but
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um that's how she just saw because she was trying to busy trying to get reception on her phone
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all right well then um you know what um are you sure you don't mean the Crowne Plaza in Rosemont
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yeah so proud yes it is I'm sorry the Crown Plaza Rosemont that's exactly where it's at
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okay diary no no it's okay and have you spot and you said you spoke with the uh front desk I'm sitting outside right in
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front of the hotel in a parking lot right now and they were saying that they've been
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that they haven't seen your daughters said you left her no it's a different set this is a
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different um uh a new uh I'm sorry it's a new shift and they said that they haven't
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seen it why of course they wouldn't have seen it because this is like three or four in the morning and I can see this
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thing she was here because I just found the ticket where where they ended this uh Hotel it was that um
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1 36 P.M so hold on this part perfect because this is what I'm saying my daughter
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wasn't here real quick I'm just going to see if maybe we I'm gonna see if maybe she was
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here at all uh what's your daughter's name her name is Jenkins the road wasn't register in her name she
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came with some friends here and uh yeah I just want to verify I'm obviously I actually just came in myself uh probably
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been on ship for about 45 minutes so I just want to make sure that you know maybe she didn't she didn't get arrested
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you're very welcome but um it doesn't look like we had any run-ins with her last night at all
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um do you think it's possible maybe she went to one of her friends her friends no actually because she had my car she
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was driving my car you know I don't like nobody to drive my car because my insurance will not pay for nowhere no
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one besides her and um her friends kept calling my phone I told them to stay here they stayed out here
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but they got me like about three times in the morning I was laying in the bed I just had breast surgery at birth date
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novels I thought about breast cancer so I'm you know sedated off medication early and they telling me see out here
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so once I rejuvenated myself enough to get up and drive out here to look for what they brought me my
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car I came out right out here and I came to the hotel and I showed him a picture
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of her and I asked them if they see it and it was a lady in the lobby and she heard me asking the front desk and she
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said it was music she did hear music she called the one downstairs to report the
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room and come to find out what's the people next door and when we knocked on the door
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um that person said that she did see my daughter downstairs with it was like four of them and it was for them and she
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said my daughter she uh she was with three of her friends so her three friends there
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she was standing in the lobby in the front lobby and then when they came back down she wasn't there anymore
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[Applause] and um eka no yes yes no I I remember what I'm saying is is that sure again she's only been gone
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for a couple hours she's yeah I don't know maybe she's you know she could be someone with one of her friends or
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something because I mean again it is only a couple hours since you since her friend supposedly hadn't seen
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her correct let's say about um four three to four hours now they did they tell me
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it was like four o'clock in the morning when he called me yeah all right well I I guess the the one are
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you looking to file a missing persons report then or are you just [Applause] is it possible that maybe they can look
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at the camera and see um it's because they send the police out here in accident I look at the cameras and see
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if um they've seen it on their cameras around that time I was about to say yes detective's division
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okay okay so so what what would you suggest well again again the only thing I would
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suggest maybe just um you know give her a couple hours you know she could have went you know she could have once more
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with one of her other friends I mean and who knows what her friends are saying it's true you
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know what I mean exactly you could tell I'm not supposed to be saying you could say it don't sound right I'm a parent
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I've been young before and it's not sounding right it don't sound right period That's why I came ahead myself
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because if the Indians it sounded like they had been drinking you know honestly and I asked them did she drink and they
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said she had only one cup you know but okay my daughter ate the type that normally she can't even take liquor her
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liquor level is just like mine we can't take liquor we cannot take liquor we take the simple liquor we drunk honestly
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I completely understand and I'm I'm like one cup is too much for her you know and well and I'm not like I
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asked them and then they end up with her cell phone I pay her cell phone bill every month to make sure my daughter has
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a ball how did she love her mom I don't understand how why would she leave her cell phone which you are and
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just go disappear if you know I just had surgery you know as you know I should know my predicament Maya well then well
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then for that in that case what I would uh what I would recommend just you know go home relax a little bit give it some
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time she couldn't of all we know she very well could still be in the room she she could just be passed out you know
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again you know as you drink it the night before you get the Army whatever else have you so just
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give it a couple hours you know maybe see if you know see if she'll get a hold of you again you know I mean does she uh
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does he know your number yes you know my number everywhere she's very smart okay well then like I said
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you know just give her a couple hours you know what I mean you know you know give her some time again maybe
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she you know maybe she went to one of her other friends places or maybe she's on the road you know just knocked you
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know that knocked out you know what I mean yes I thank you okay and so when do you
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how long does it take for me to file a missing person report well you can you can file it in any at uh at any time it
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just uh like I said you know just you know just give it a little bit of time you know if if you hadn't heard from her
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by I want to say about 10 11 o'clock then by all means you know give us a call again you can come to the station and uh
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we can help you out from there okay I live in Chicago would it be better for me to come back to you all
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station or should I go in Chicago and make out a mystery report all right you know I think you're uh you're um you
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could try it you can try to file it out in Chicago they may tell you to come here since it happened in our town but I
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do know that since she I do know that since she lives with uh yeah obviously she lives with you in the
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city I think this might actually fall on them or at least or at least they'll be able
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to take the report and then they'll get in contact with us and we'll be able to help them out with the investigation
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from there okay well it doesn't it doesn't matter whichever one um if I have to come back out here I'll
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come back out here but but as long as if we be able to see but we'll if I come okay I give it to
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tomorrow it's 24 hours after 24 hours do you think you have to be if you can see
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the video camera up today the civilians cameras for today yeah yeah yeah yes we'd definitely be able to probably yes
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we'd definitely be able to get the footage okay thank you well I'll do that okay
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thank you so much okay you're very welcome have a good day thank you so much you're very welcome
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bye-bye foreign [Music] [Applause] [Applause] [Music] 600 [Applause] copy [Applause]
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Harry what kids can you win I'm in the rear by the dock area and the garbage foreign
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[Applause] [Music] first up Captain we find ourselves in a bit of a unique situation don't we this
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has been I find myself in the garage well this has happened before but it's rare but we have to seize the day we
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have to seize the moment we were all geared up we had a case ready to cover this week an interesting case of course
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but a cold case one with no recent activity on it now it doesn't make it any less
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important or less tragic but there is this case in the news right now and it should be and we both agreed that now is
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the time to discuss it because as we both agreed this case should and needs as many ears and eyes on it as possible
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and it's possibly not getting the immediate attention it should right and now we're talking about the Kanika
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Jenkins case of course a basic rundown before we dive into this thing we have a beautiful young lady just 19 years old
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she goes to a hotel party with her friends on September 8th 2017. so just earlier this month
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now her mother is at home recovering from a surgery she says that she last Saw Kanika at about 11 30 p.m at their
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home she says Kanika borrowed her mother's car and left with two of her friends so I'm assuming that Kanika
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lives with her mother yes now later we would see video footage of Kanika and three other young women all about her
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age walking together from the hotel lobby now friends of this group of girls are up on the ninth floor they have a
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room there and they are throwing a hotel party I've seen some reports that the group actually had rented two rooms that
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night which I believe to be true but at about 4 a.m kanika's friends call her mother and they told her that they
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could not find Kanika so she is missing now kanika's friends have her cell phone
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and they have the keys to kanika's mom's car she's reported missing to the hotel
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and then later to the police and then about a little under 24 hours after that she's found dead in a walk-in freezer at
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that very same Hotel now usually I don't like to go into this whole basic rundown of the case but we
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heard we heard all of that in the trailer we hear her mother calling 9-1-1 asking what she should do reporting her
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missing and then later we hear the officer that found her in that freezer and those haunting chilling words that
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he says you know we've we found the subject she's in a freezer and she's frozen solid yeah very very haunting
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audio clip yeah now this case you you may have heard of about it in some form or another it's a bit of a water cooler
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case right now now this young lady was she murdered was she drugged was someone after her we don't know but what what I
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do know is as soon as people started talking Captain you and I started talking about this I was aware of this
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case and had heard about it but you know when I looked it up last week and even up to earlier today I've been sucked
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into this thing and spent a lot of time looking at a lot of different things actually and a big thank you to the
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listeners because there were so many people on social media saying hey have you heard of this case nobody's talking
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about this case and and we see this often um where a you know a white girl goes missing or something happens with a
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white girl on media is all over it but this is a young beautiful black woman and not a lot of people are talking
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about well it maybe in the realm of social media but as far as big time media goes you're you're exactly right
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now uh I I've actually lost a few days on this one I mean completely like lost days on this thing so this is a rabbit
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hole Yeah we know everyone out there is is very busy so you don't need to lose days on this days like we both have but
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if you can hang with us in the garage for a little bit tonight and tomorrow we will bring you up to speed on everything
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we'll tell you what you need to know tell you what they they meaning the authorities kanika's family and the
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hotel need to know or I guess need to find out figure out because right now I believe kanika's family needs a lot of
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information a lot of answers and support from both the local police and the Crown
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Plaza Hotel I am happy to say that I have seen a lot of support for her family coming from the public and of
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course we will all continue to do just that but if the police in the hotel don't have those answers they need to
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work together and get them for kanika's family and we can even discuss here tonight if that is happening or not well
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and we see it multiple times in multiple cases if major media Outlets push an issue right or talk about something talk
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about a case enough that sometimes that puts enough pressure on police or people
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of power to do the right thing or to get the answers faster right and there is you know I kind of
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wanted to just explain what we were talking about in case people didn't recognize the name Kanika Jenkins
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um I wanted to say that from the jump and from the get-go because this is similar in a way to the Brandon Lawson
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case and the Missy beavers case where you know we're going to talk about things that are that were captured on
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camera and so you know you need to pay attention out there because there will be homework homework assignment for you
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all you know we're not going to tell you what you got to go do but I guarantee after listening to this case for a
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little bit you're going to be trolling the internet looking for these videos wanting to see them with your own eyes
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all right so you're going to give us homework but you're not going to tell us what it is that's the toughest kind of
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homework you can receive my friend well let's start with the first footage that we see and it's of her and our friends
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walking into the hotel and it's they're just going into a party all right so the
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first thing I notice here and want to point out is there is a time stamp in the top right of this surveillance
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footage and if you know the caveat here is if the time stamp is right this would
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make it at about 12 13 a.m and we see Kanika along with three other girls inside the Crown Plaza O'Hare Hotel so
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by this time it's technically September 9th this must be a hallway just off of the lobby because you can see there on
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the right the the little business center you know with the the stack of computers
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um from there the girls are going to get on an elevator now Kanika is wearing jeans and a jean jacket she does not
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have a purse with her but she has what what appears to me to be a cell phone in one hand and car keys in the other hand
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at this point in the video I think she looks pretty sober and of sound mind to me I mean that looks like all the ladies
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in the video are pretty sober there's four of them total now keep in mind as we said just minutes ago there are
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already people upstairs on the ninth floor that they're going to go meet so they they are not showing up and
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checking into the hotel they are simply showing up to the hotel to meet the rest
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of this group uh and how far into the party they are at this point we don't know and the speculation about this is
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there's roughly about 30 some people at the party yeah that's correct so now in the next clip we're going to see the
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elevator door open um the time stamp now reads uh 2 24 a.m um so just a little over two hours and
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we see Kanika stumble off of the elevator and she almost runs into the wall there yeah it takes it takes her
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about a minute or so to stumble down the hallway here and she's so disoriented that she almost falls into a rail
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there's like a set of stairs there and she doesn't appear like she has any desire to go up those stairs just that
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that she falls into the rail almost like a like a gut shot yeah there's a bunch of strange things here I mean anytime
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she's walking down a hall she kind of bumps into the wall and that happens several times
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um and there's several hours of this footage of her kind of roaming around the hotel that's what it sounds like
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um but what has been released and what we are able to see are just minutes rather
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um but after she after she falls into that rail she then goes away from the stairs and she looks like she's trying
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to kind of like like Shake It Off like kind of like pull herself together like okay I got this you know I almost fell
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into that rail but I'm gonna pull together now and she steps toward the camera uh she makes uh she goes to her
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right but it's our our left that we're looking at now she's going to turn here and this part to me is very telling it I
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mean telling of how like messed up she is like she she's walking with her head up and then her
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head goes back like back pretty far um she's not watching where she's going um but her head goes back it's almost
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like her head is too heavy or something and then she she's almost like like a zombie State at this point to me
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like uh doesn't really seem to be in control of much other than her feet yeah and I think originally looking at some
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of the footage you know with her bumping into the walls I I just assumed okay so she's 19 years
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old she's at a party possibly hasn't drank that much or drank that often in her lifetime so maybe she just had way
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too much to drink and then sometimes while you're at that party kind of a you know you have a fight or flight
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mentality and sometimes you get really wasting okay I gotta get out of here and I think the key word words you said
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there is way too much to drink when you when you see this when not the first time I saw it my first take was wow she
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was at a hotel party she I mean she's consumed a lot of alcohol and I didn't even realize there was such a short
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window of time from the time she arrives looking sober to the point where she gets off this elevator just two hours
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later and she appears to have consumed a ton of alcohol in the disclaimer there's there hasn't
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been an autopsy released yet and there hasn't been a toxicology report released yet so I will know more about that later
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um but again it the running into the wall is okay maybe you're drunk but the the head leaning back I'm almost
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like you said like a zombie State yeah that's when I started getting this gut feeling that this um this young 19 year
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old female is not just intoxicated that she's not just she didn't just drink alcohol or maybe shots that there's
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something else going on here that's put in her in a whole nother realm now what that is I'm not really for sure now we
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see her go out of frame for just a like a split second or two uh and then she appears on camera again and she stumbles
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into a door and it looks like she actually enters whatever kind of room that is I I saw somewhere that it that
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it might be a restroom or maybe even a men's restroom but whatever it is uh she's only in there for about 40 to 45
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seconds now once she appears again from that room she turns and she's heading in the
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direction of the camera it's it's hard to say but I think the way that she is walking it almost appears to and looks
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to me like she's getting more intoxicated or more disoriented uh by the minute uh and at this point she has it appears
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like she has something in her hand and it's it's not what I saw before this this seems different uh okay so what you
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thought you saw before was a cell phone yes yeah I thought I saw uh it it what looked very obvious to me in that first
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frame was that she had the cell phone and keys this is neither one of those objects to me this is appears smaller
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could even possibly be you know I've heard some speculation on this I when I see it it looks to me
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almost like a napkin or a tissue or paper towel of some sort maybe even wad it up and now my question would be do
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you see this before she goes into the men's restroom or I give her I did not notice it until after she comes out of
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that room okay so maybe she tried to get sick somewhere you know sometimes when you're
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I mean especially when you're drunk sometimes you just go hey if I can if I can puke I'll feel better right or if I
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can splash some water on my face um yeah I I couldn't tell because sometimes I'm so drunk that I'll get
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into into a sink and just take a shower in the sink like a like a little bird you know what I mean well prior to her
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going into that room she may have had this object in her hand I don't know but she most of the time she is walking away
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from the camera or she's got a side we have a side view of her and it's not until she's facing the
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camera again that I see this small object let's dive more into the footage of Kanika Jenkins right after this quick
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beer break [Music] all right we're back cheers mates cheers now where we left off is Kanika is now
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she's stumbling down the hallway and she's walking back toward the camera and this will bring us to the time stamp of
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about 232. um now we have Kanika she is in the kitchen or in a kitchen and it's obvious
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that it's not an operating kitchen I mean this kitchen from what I can see here on the camera is extremely empty I
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mean it doesn't it doesn't even look like a kitchen that was shut down for the evening because you know we're in
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the wee hours of the morning well sometimes you know because I'd play a lot of weddings back in the cover band
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days and so you'd play at a hotel and you'd have your Main Kitchen uh that was used
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for the hotel guests and all that stuff but they have other kitchens like um like almost like remote kitchens that
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they'd use for events right where they're just caters that come in or things that come in for that night or a
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weekend and then they disappear it seems like that's what this is well and one thing I want to make clear here is you
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know when we say that we see her walking uh it's taking her a lot longer obviously to get down to make a path
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through a hallway or through the kitchen than it would anybody that would be sober you know often she's not taking a
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direct path to where she's attempting to go I guess you would say um but you know so she's stumbling about
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and it takes her quite some time to navigate through the hallways through this kitchen
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um right so I mean we have an individual again fight or flight right we think that she's
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you know trying to leave that situation leave the party why is she trying to leave what happened there
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she's definitely uh drunk or on drugs now when we say that a lot of people are going to say well your victim blaming no
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I'm saying that she is on drugs then the question becomes why is she on those drugs right did she take them or were
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they were given to her by somebody else and was it and was it like here take this you'll feel good and then she took
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it or was it she took these drugs not knowing so we have an individual that is on something and I I bet money when that
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toxicology report comes out we're going to have a lot more answers and it's not just going to be alcohol
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and and so but she's trying to get through this area this this hotel and you know totally wasted right and she
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doesn't know her way it's a large hotel too yeah so so when you say it's taken her some time I think some of it is
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because of that intoxication but some of it is she won doesn't know where she's going
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and she's never been there before right you know I mean now where we left off and where this video is going to end you
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know she's in the kitchen making her way through the kitchen and then she's heading in the direction of what would
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look to me like like the back part of the kitchen where possibly the freezer is or the freezer door would be
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um and we will we will certainly find the best clips of this that we can find and put it on our website at
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truecrimegarage.com all right let's start diving into some of the questions like why are they there why are they at
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this hotel um you know Hotel parties are not super common or at least in my world they they
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are I mean even though you know a big supporter of hotel motel Holiday Inn and the captain is free on Friday night so
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if if you know of a good one call me you know anyway so here's what I can gather Captain is that it it was for
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a birthday um and I believe it to be Irene Robert's birthday that they were going to be
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celebrating at this hotel party um I'm a little unclear as to how close Kanika and Irene actually were right uh
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there's a lot of reports out there that say they were best friends um there's also uh just as many reports
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out there that says Irene was more of a friend of a friend yeah um and then it might have been somebody in that group
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of four girls that we saw walking into the hotel one of you know that would have been very much closer with Irene
00:33:07
than Kanika would have been well every hotel party I've ever been at it was always I was a friend of a friend I mean
00:33:15
I I don't think I've ever went to a party whereas one of my close friends throwing a hotel party now we
00:33:21
have a little bit of background stuff um it would be nice if we could fill out that evening a little bit more if we
00:33:28
could fill out those hours and those minutes more but what I can throw in there to kind of book in this thing a
00:33:36
little bit to help out um there's a report of Kanika having talked on the phone with her sister at
00:33:43
around 1 30 a.m that night all right so we we don't see her on camera uh as far as what's been released for about two
00:33:51
hours we we have her going up the elevator after midnight and then appearing stumbling off the elevator
00:33:58
after two in the morning so right in the middle there around that 1 30 Mark she called her sister okay now what was that
00:34:08
conversation I don't know what the conversation was about but what I can throw in there is that there's no
00:34:13
reports of anybody saying she sounded disorder oriented or she sounded in trouble
00:34:19
that has not come out um so right I don't believe that to be the situation or I think we would have
00:34:26
heard that by now uh eventually her friends called kanika's mother uh her name is Teresa Martin now they called to
00:34:34
say that they were going to be driving Teresa's car remember Kanika borrowed her mother's car that they were going to
00:34:40
be driving Teresa's car back to her uh Teresa said that she then went to the hotel arriving there around 5 a.m to
00:34:49
look for her daughter rewind a little bit okay so they called the mother at what time
00:34:55
um she reports on the 9-1-1 call that it was roughly around four in the morning okay so at four in the morning they're
00:35:02
calling and they say we can't find her right and we've looked around right yeah and now see here's the tough
00:35:08
thing is that the police have like 36 hours of surveillance footage and but you know mainly that footage is
00:35:19
of Kanika but is there footage of her friends looking oh my God I I would wonder that because
00:35:26
to me that you know if you're calling somebody saying hey your daughter's missing we can't find her but there's no
00:35:32
evidence of you looking well I think there was evidence of them looking okay or or at least there's
00:35:38
people saying that they looked for her okay good okay you know I'm just trying to get all the little bits of evidence
00:35:45
out there well and there's that's the whole thing here that there seems to be a lot missing from the story right and
00:35:52
that makes me call in a question everybody at this point um you know so first off what did
00:35:58
kanika's friends say happened to her well that seems like it has been a little Hush Hush or maybe just severely
00:36:06
overshadowed shadowed by all of the other stories regarding this case but I have heard two versions okay one several
00:36:14
of her friends had last seen Kanika in the hotel lobby they left and when they returned she was no longer there but she
00:36:23
they saw her in the lobby that that was the first version of this story that I heard yes so she's entire so your friend
00:36:31
is messed up by herself in the lobby needs to kind of Walk Away really well that's what kind
00:36:40
of person you are like I said that's the version I heard and I didn't hear it directly from any of those girls so I
00:36:45
don't know how accurate that statement is one let's just get you know one of the elephants you know that's in the
00:36:51
room is you have this 19 year old I mean she obviously looks I mean you can't really tell what her age is from the
00:36:59
footage but I'm saying I mean she looks a little bit older than 19 is what I'm saying but
00:37:08
but not much and so you have this um female by herself walking these Halls intoxicated and security never comes up
00:37:19
if she's in the lobby nobody none of the staff comes up and talks to her right I mean you have a responsibility
00:37:27
you know and not just as you know not just as a hotel worker you just have a responsibility as a human
00:37:36
well you do you want to hear the other version of the last time we saw Kanika story yeah yeah however in the other
00:37:42
version of this story Captain uh we only have one friend that was with with her outside of the room outside of the hotel
00:37:49
room and she says uh didn't leave her in the lobby says that she thought Kanika was walking right behind her and at some
00:37:58
point she turns around and that is not the case Kanika is not there of course we have to question both of those
00:38:05
stories yeah where was this friend walking to um I the way that I've heard it is that
00:38:11
she was walking in a hallway now this could be a hallway on the ninth floor on the 11th floor the third floor the lobby
00:38:18
I don't know so we but we could assume the majority of the individuals at this party are you
00:38:25
know 19 to let's say 25. yeah yeah I would say that's an accurate statement so I mean that comes in to play I mean
00:38:33
as far as maturity and being able to go forth and talk to adults and come forward and say and tell the truth
00:38:41
I'd say that comes into play well and of course I have to question both of those
00:38:46
stories because we have all of this other video footage that's supposedly out there but we have
00:38:53
no footage confirming which if either of these stories are actually true now there was one report that I read that
00:39:00
said that that she that Kanika was spotted uh walking near the lobby stumbling that is of course super
00:39:08
unclear because does that mean she was spotted on camera you know as we have already seen or was she spotted by a
00:39:14
hotel employee or someone other than you know one of her friends uh because if so
00:39:20
I'm not sure why they would really peace portions of the tape and then not release other portions of the tape
00:39:28
you know and speaking of the tape let's let's get into this this whole argument right well you know look they have to
00:39:36
when they find her body right we don't know what what other evidence they have right
00:39:45
so as of right now all we're hearing is that she walked into the freezer there was a camera above the freezer
00:39:52
that wasn't on or didn't work for whatever reason right so they don't have actual footage of her going in or how
00:39:59
she got in and so that um you know leads to speculation that maybe somebody was with her but all the video footage
00:40:07
before that kind of you know I would say argues that point argues that there was somebody else with
00:40:13
her so but what else do they know was there a puncture wound you know was her head hit did she have a black eye
00:40:24
you know I mean there could be all these things that maybe they know that we don't know
00:40:30
so to be on the cop's side here maybe they've only released certain amount of footage because the either the other
00:40:39
footage is like it doesn't matter you don't need to see that because when they say 36 hours of footage they could have
00:40:45
an hour of footage where she's way off in the distance and you can't really see anything but they also have an
00:40:51
investigation that they have to do and maybe there's certain key moments like you said her talking to her friends in
00:40:59
the lobby or whatever that the police are trying to get to the bottom of and they don't want to mess up their
00:41:05
investigation I don't believe they have 36 hours of footage of Kanika Jenkins I don't think so either not for not for a
00:41:12
second that's a hard sell for me because that means she's you got several hours of her stumbling around I mean
00:41:20
she didn't stumble around for a day and a half well I think maybe when they said
00:41:24
that we have 36 hours I mean you might have let's say in one hallway you might have two or three cameras so if she
00:41:31
stumbles around in let's say for 20 minutes and you have three or four different angles of this shot then
00:41:39
you're adding that to the time right so so possibly it's like when she's in the kitchen there it seems like there's
00:41:45
multiple camera angles and stuff of this footage in the kitchen and so it's like
00:41:50
okay so maybe they they have a combined you know um and they might have some footage I'd
00:41:57
be interested in this too I mean I wonder if they have some footage of that the floor that the party was on
00:42:05
right so you're talking about if they have footage of that and you have people going in and out of that party
00:42:12
you're and you have two angles of that and so you go well we got eight hours of that well two camera angles that's 16
00:42:19
hours we're getting a lot closer to 36 but like you said I we're in agreement on the fact that the the footage you
00:42:27
know they've released what 30 40 minutes to the mother I believe so yes and that might be all
00:42:34
they have right and they're getting kind of a bad rap for that but that's a lot of footage that's a lot more footage
00:42:40
than most people get well okay let's let's go down that road for a little bit and um you know and then we'll get into
00:42:46
the whole argument about these tapes because obviously the police wanted the tapes right obviously uh then the family
00:42:54
wanted the tape but there seems to have been some delay just getting it to the police
00:43:00
um and uh here I'm gonna try to offer a little bit of insight regarding the cameras the first obvious thing I have
00:43:07
here is these are motion censored cameras emotion triggers the recording and it records until the camera no
00:43:15
longer detects motion uh one thing I was a little curious about is when Kanika is
00:43:20
seen stumbling on tape and goes into the what I said could be a restroom the camera quickly stops and then it starts
00:43:30
again after she returns and you would say Nick that makes sense because you just said they record once they detect
00:43:36
motion and then shut off once they don't and that could be the case but the systems I'm familiar with didn't time
00:43:45
out that fast when when the systems I used archived footage they would do one of the following depending on which
00:43:52
system I was using but one would tack on five seconds to before motion was detected and then tack on another five
00:44:01
seconds at the end yeah but it's reason it's reasonable to believe that they edited this footage before they release
00:44:08
it and then maybe in and again it might not be the cops that are editing it it just might be the news clip that's
00:44:16
showing footage that they go well why do we need the five seconds of nothing for
00:44:21
right but then that's the concern right the now the the other system I have used
00:44:25
in the past would record uh until it had not detected motion for 30 consecutive seconds well and okay so for some of the
00:44:33
listeners that you know they don't know you personally you don't know your Deep Thoughts
00:44:38
they don't know your inner my shallow thoughts no but you used to do security for
00:44:47
um well one would be similar to this situation where I did security at a high-rise building for for many years
00:44:55
um so here's the thing regardless that means one of two things right we either have you can adjust the times on both
00:45:04
those systems that I used you can make them more efficient maybe you can't you can't have the ability to hold so much
00:45:10
archive footage so you really want to trim that down so those can be adjusted but it means one of two things either
00:45:18
like you said it's edited or they have it set to time out immediately now the hotel they have 47 cameras on
00:45:28
this property and so maybe for the storage purposes they wanted or set those systems to timeout immediately but
00:45:36
the reason why I bring that up though is because that's an obvious point where it
00:45:40
is some kind of edit uh or it timed out immediately the concern here being is like you said who edited that tape was
00:45:48
it the was it the news papers or the news footage was it the police was it the hotel right not the newspaper but
00:45:56
yeah the news news teams or or was it the police yeah now here's the thing about these these systems and I'm I'm
00:46:04
assuming this is a digital system usually the systems that are motion detective detected in a Timeout like
00:46:10
that are all digital systems well I'm just I mean it's 2017. right and the the problem with that is when you are when
00:46:20
you need to give footage to somebody it's not it's not as easy as one might think this might be the cause for some
00:46:28
delay of getting that footage to the police the way that I've heard this explained to me is that the police did
00:46:36
witness some of this video camera footage at the hotel itself but they're saying we want our own copy of this and
00:46:43
we want a copy of everything that you have and you said 36 hours I'm guessing what
00:46:49
that 36 hours means is that between the time that she arrived to about the time that they found her is roughly 36 hours
00:46:57
we want to see all 36 of hours of that because we want to know and see everything that that she could have seen
00:47:03
experienced or witnessed from the time she arrived until the time she was found wanna maybe also we want to see from the
00:47:12
time that she goes missing the actions of employees and actions of people from the party I mean it puts the cops in a
00:47:19
tough situation too because then they have to believe you know let's say there is something nefarious that happen you
00:47:26
know let's say by a hotel worker or whatever then who has access to these tapes and who's in charge of getting
00:47:31
giving the tapes to the cops so I mean that that causes for a lot more speculation now I sh I do want to throw
00:47:39
this out there because at both places that I worked where we operated these sophisticated camera systems we had a
00:47:46
lot we had a large staff at both places okay in the last place that I worked there would be only two people that
00:47:54
would probably be able to provide you with archived footage there would only be two people that would even be able to
00:48:00
know how to go back in time and show the footage to somebody there let alone send
00:48:06
it off to them and at the place I worked before that it was even larger staff there might have been three or four
00:48:12
people that knew how to do that so that's obviously going to create some kind of delay
00:48:19
does it mean anything I don't know should we blame anybody for it probably probably because if you have a few
00:48:27
people that can do that let's get that person in here and let's get this squared away as quick as possible yeah
00:48:32
but again you're again I think some of this stuff is you know whether there's five seconds there five seconds not I
00:48:39
mean we we kind of get pretty much the full picture of what happened the big question is why didn't that camera above
00:48:46
the freezer work you know that there was a camera above the freezer there there's been an
00:48:52
argument that there is no camera that's in that location right but that's the tough thing about this case is whatever
00:48:57
is brought up there's an argument there's an equal argument against that so we have had publicly we have the
00:49:04
family fighting to see all of the video which I think is which is a fair fight um even though they're not met with
00:49:12
fairness on the other end um you know we have the where's the pushback coming from probably the police
00:49:19
and the hotel as well uh but I thought yeah there's been a lot of conflict between the family and the police
00:49:26
department for from the get-go I mean I think the mother wanted to see her daughter's body in the freezer and I
00:49:34
don't think they they said it's crime scene you can't come see this you know you know to me and that's a
00:49:41
very odd statement because well if it's a crime scene then yeah I get the reason why you don't want her to
00:49:47
see the body or you don't want her to contaminate any of that the crime scene but then if you start saying well we
00:49:55
have a reason to believe that this was accidental death well then is that a crime scene well
00:50:01
well I guess it's it's an investigation scene because here's here's what their statement is
00:50:07
this is the um this was as of uh September 25th the Rosemont police department has classified this case as a
00:50:17
death investigation the Cook County medical examiner's office has said the cause and manner of Jenkins death is
00:50:25
pending both additional police work and toxicology results police say that she had been at the party with as many as 30
00:50:33
other people on the ninth floor of the clown Crown Plaza Hotel in Rosemont okay so we don't know I'm glad it's not
00:50:42
the Clown Plaza because that would be scary well the the Crown Plaza is acting like the clown posit and
00:50:50
the plaza in the situation but um but so we we don't know Captain if if they think this is an accidental death
00:50:58
um it sounds like you know the theories and the uh the people on the outside are
00:51:04
speculating that they that the police believe it to be an accidental death I don't think they do but they're they're
00:51:10
their their official statement is that they have classified this case as a death investigation and the medical
00:51:17
examiner's office says that it's the manner of her death is pending depend you know because they're waiting on
00:51:24
additional police work and toxicology results well because that toxicology report is that's the Holy Grail on this
00:51:30
case right because I think based off that and again we got a bunch of 19 and 20 year old people being irresponsible
00:51:38
not telling the truth not telling the you know that's what's sad is a lot of these
00:51:45
knew her they were friends with her or at least acquaintances with her and they're not coming forward and telling
00:51:51
the truth and that's odd to me we should know more information about that party and we
00:51:57
don't and that's odd to me well and here's something that's really odd to me too is is the whole argument about these
00:52:05
tapes so I want I want to kind of go through this just briefly here okay so this was a statement that was released
00:52:12
from Powers Rogers and Smith um I'm sorry power Rogers and Smith this is the attorneys that kanika's mother
00:52:21
has hired to represent her and to basically start their own investigation because we're not happy with the current
00:52:29
investigation so their official statement was serious questions remain regarding what happened to Kanika
00:52:36
Jenkins at the Crown Plaza Hotel on September 9 2017. Kanika was found dead in the
00:52:43
freezer of the hotel more than 36 hours after her family reported her missing and told the hotel staff she was
00:52:50
somewhere on their premises despite requests for all evidence we have only been provided Snippets of video none of
00:52:58
which shows Kanika is walking into a freezer the family has not been provided any video or other evidence of Kanika
00:53:06
Jenkins walking into a freezer serious questions remain as to how she ended up in the Crown Plaza Hotel freezer and why
00:53:13
it took a day and a half for the hotel to find Kanika her death requires a thorough complete and independent
00:53:22
investigation the family thanks the public for its prayers concerns and for bringing attention to this tragedy the
00:53:29
mother has retained Larry Rogers Jr of power Rogers and Smith LLP and Sam Adam Jr to conduct an investigation and speak
00:53:40
on behalf of the family no other person is or has been authorized to speak on behalf of Kanika Jenkins family please
00:53:48
respect their privacy as They Mourn and prepare to bury their beautiful 19 year old now the reason why I kind of got
00:53:56
loud on the no other person has been authorized rise or or is authorized to speak on behalf of the Kanika Jenkins
00:54:04
family is because we have this Chicago activist his name is Andrew Holmes he comes forward and he
00:54:12
gives a press conference in which he says and this is not verbatim but he says that he was shown the video footage
00:54:19
and he claims that they were when when looking at and looking at it and viewing it himself
00:54:25
they wanted to see it he wanted to see it because he was looking to see if somebody walked her into that freezer if
00:54:32
somebody placed her in there pulled her in and he said the video footage he had seen did not show that his words make it
00:54:41
sound like that he claims to have seen Kanika walk into the freezer alone right so there's this throws this whole thing
00:54:50
into into a tizzy because everybody immediately wants to know well if there is that footage and we can clear this
00:54:57
whole thing up right then and there why hasn't this been released why hasn't this been shown to the family so they
00:55:04
quit bringing this to the attention of the police and and battling with the police about what was found and what was
00:55:10
not found um I think this Andrew Holmes I think he misspoke during his press conference I I watched it time and time
00:55:19
again it looks to me like he like he's simply saying we don't see somebody pull her in there we don't see
00:55:27
anybody walk her in there and the way he words it makes it sound like uh you know
00:55:33
I saw footage of her walking in on her own I don't believe that that's what he saw but but I have an issue with him
00:55:40
being shown this footage when we have family who have been denied certain pieces of this footage right and
00:55:49
here's what I think happened with the situation if he saw the footage though well or if he's just talking out of his
00:55:55
ass I mean there are some people that will just talk excuse me out of my ass or well I believe he saw the footage
00:56:05
Captain I believe he was shown the footage I think he probably misrepresented uh the family by saying I
00:56:12
think he probably presented himself as he's representing the family but he wasn't in fact
00:56:18
um I think police showed him this footage because they were catching a lot of right so why would they show the
00:56:25
footage to this guy that has no connection to the case at all and not show it to the family well the Public's
00:56:30
in an upcry The public's in a stir I think they thought that if if they show it to him and he makes some kind of
00:56:37
Public Announcement but this thing will die down if you're willing to show it to
00:56:41
him why aren't you willing it to show it to the mother right and that's the big problem I have I have I have a huge
00:56:47
problem with that and I think this was all crowd control I think this was just a way of of trying to calm the masses
00:56:54
right and look I'm all forthrown the police under the bus when they do something
00:56:59
shitty but I don't know if this is that case you know I this guy might just be misspeaking completely and this footage
00:57:06
was not shown it doesn't make any sense why they'd show it to activists and not the mother
00:57:11
you know um I mean what what are they trying to get out of that I mean like you said
00:57:15
well they showed it to somebody so then that clears the air and look I I think that was their
00:57:20
intention and I I don't know that that came from the police it could have came from the mayor I don't know that but I
00:57:26
think that that was their intention the reason why I believe that is because I have another statement from kanika's
00:57:32
mother who says that when protesters were gathering outside of the hotel she was contacted by Andrew Holmes the same
00:57:40
activist and he tells her to get online and call off the protesters because the hotel is is broke and they're not making
00:57:49
any money this is this to me is another another spin another crowd control technique
00:57:56
yeah but what's the motivation for that because if there's a wrongful death you need
00:58:03
that that hotel to be in business so you can sue them now the other thing here is
00:58:08
we have police who will will come out and they will say that they are busy analyzing the video from again uh 47
00:58:15
different Hotel cameras and certain videos related to this investigation see those are interesting words certain
00:58:23
videos related to this investigation yeah you know what that is that's like Snapchat that's Facebook that's all this
00:58:29
other stuff because there's some [ __ ] that happened in that party and it was captured by cell phones and they're
00:58:35
trying to get to the bottom of that and the other problem too is when there's a speculation of 30 some individuals at
00:58:41
this party and the police have come out and said hey we're having a really hard time talking to half of them
00:58:46
half of them aren't being cooperative or we don't even know who half of them are
00:58:52
and and you know maybe the police don't know who half of them are but the other half the people that the party know who
00:58:57
they are and why aren't you telling the cops who they are well police also announced that they were reviewing a
00:59:04
Facebook live video that reportedly shows Jenkins sitting on a hotel bed with other people and a ninth floor room
00:59:12
authorities also have interviewed 12 people as part of their investigation eight of whom were at the hotel party uh
00:59:20
that night they are looking for four others who were present that night okay so look there's so much more to get into
00:59:29
right oh this case is so frustrating um look I think as far as the footage goes because let's wrap it up on the footage
00:59:41
talk right as far as the footage goes I think it's important to see to kind of get idea of
00:59:48
what mental state she is in or what physical state she's in you know again bumping into the walls is kind of weird
00:59:55
but I mean hidden rails and catching yourself or walking with your head super far back
01:00:02
it's like again what was she on and I don't think there's any clear footage of anybody with her in that kitchen and I
01:00:10
could be wrong I had but I just out of all the footage I've seen doesn't make any sense I think she
01:00:16
walked into that Freezer by herself now my question is what drug was she on who gave it to her
01:00:26
and was there some purpose for giving her that drug and to me this is not you know when we
01:00:34
first you know I got email after email and Facebook and Instagram and and all that
01:00:42
stuff people saying hey you gotta check out this case are you following this case
01:00:46
you know I look into it I don't know 15 20 minutes in I'm like I'm okay it's accidental death
01:00:52
it's a it's a 19 year old that went to a party and maybe got into some stuff that
01:00:57
she shouldn't right that's that was my initial thought then you start diving into some of this speculation and some
01:01:04
of these things that that don't add up then I started going saying that axle this is not an accidental death and I
01:01:12
actually don't think that the police think that either even though they they're saying it's a death
01:01:17
investigation I believe that's what it should be at this point but I'm with you Captain I don't think they think it's
01:01:22
accidental right but that's why they're making the statement they're not saying this is an accidental death
01:01:28
investigation they're saying this is a death investigation yeah because I think they know some stuff and and people
01:01:34
eventually crack and I think they know more than that they can tell and the reason why so you can't sit there and
01:01:40
just go hey piece of [ __ ] cop piece of [ __ ] cup law enforcement's out to screw
01:01:45
this family over some of it is they might know some stuff and they got to keep that in
01:01:50
because if that gets out then people might stop talking right yeah so I think they know more
01:01:57
than they're leading on and that's why they called it a death investigation and I think eventually it's going to become
01:02:03
a murder investigation I think you're exactly right and I think uh you know all right so on to my this this case
01:02:10
like it's just one of those cases that just like pisses you off right and here's what we're gonna do sorry if we
01:02:16
sound like crazy Psychopaths well we're gonna present some different things to you that will back up our beliefs and
01:02:23
why this should be a murder investigation and it will and will eventually evolve into that and I also
01:02:30
think this is a very solvable case uh I think right now we're sitting here needing a lot of answers the family
01:02:37
needs and deserves a lot of answers I think they're going to start piecing this thing together and there could be a
01:02:43
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