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Heather Kullorn /// Part 1 /// 675

June 14, 2023 / 47:12

This episode covers the case of Heather Killorn, a 12-year-old girl who went missing in July 1999 from Richmond Heights, Missouri. The hosts discuss the circumstances surrounding her disappearance, the individuals involved, and the investigation that followed.

Heather was last seen on July 14, 1999, while babysitting a two-month-old baby. The episode details her background, including her struggles with diabetes and her relationship with her mother, Christine Killorn. The hosts express concern over the decision to have a young girl babysit overnight.

Key discussions include the timeline of events leading up to Heather's disappearance, particularly the conflicting stories provided by Christopher Herbert, the adult male present in the apartment. The hosts analyze the implications of his statements and the evidence found during the investigation.

The episode also highlights the involvement of law enforcement, the discovery of drug paraphernalia in the apartment, and the witness account of a neighbor who reported seeing a man carrying a child around the time Heather went missing.

Listeners are encouraged to consider the complexities of the case and the various factors that may have contributed to Heather's disappearance.

TLDR

The episode discusses the disappearance of 12-year-old Heather Killorn in 1999, focusing on the investigation and conflicting accounts from adults involved.

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chair grab a beer let's talk some true crime foreign [Music] [Music] foreign there is a whole other world
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one that is confusing blurry and hypnotizing it was in this world that all I could
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see or at least make out at the time was a Sea of Faces many of them young but it was an organized sea not chaotic
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at all the faces all seem to be perfectly lined up in a grid row after row column after column
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like one very large black and white page from a yearbook I was lost somewhere between those two
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worlds of sleep and perfectly aware and alert it was 1am I was falling asleep I've been reading for hours in either
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the state I was in was due to the late hour where the soothing rhythmic reading of each name
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one by one row after row column after column I was stuck entrenched and entranced
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and then I was out when I came to I was able to sort out the blurry details of the image
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that was the gateway to my slumber it was page 84. the October 26 2008 Edition The Daily American Republic
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a fine newspaper out of Poplar Bluff Missouri the page featured 83 faces each the face of a missing person
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across the top of the page in large type were words of immediate concern missing children
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which were book ended by the national Center for missing and exploited children organizations logo and the
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number to call should you have seen or have any information about one of the missing
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people on the page or frankly anyone who is missing it all 1-800 the Lost I know the name does not make it clear
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but the national Center for missing and exploited children or knick-knack for short
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the organization assists in bringing home adults as well in fact and unfortunately many of the younger
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folks listed on this page and on the Knick Mac website where children who went missing Once
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Upon a Time and are now adult age missing people 34 of the faces and names were once from
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the state of Missouri one of them the face and name of this week's featured case
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of the missing persons featured from Missouri there are some names that you are sure
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to recognize names like that of Suzanne Streeter and Stacy McCall Suzanne and Stacy are two of the
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Springfield three females who are still missing to this very day and believed to be the victims of an
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abduction we covered the Springfield 3 case back in April of 2017. in episodes 97 and 98
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also from Missouri there's Branson Perry Branson went missing in 2001. he was about 20 years old at the time
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we covered Branson's case in April of 2021. episode 484 then there was the picture of a little
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girl from Orlando Florida the name Kaylee Marie Anthony [Music] Kaylee went missing in June of 2008.
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remember this page was printed up for an October 26 2008 newspaper Kaylee was still missing at this time
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her mother was charged with first-degree murder that same month Kaylee's body was found in December of
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2008. we covered that story in a four-part series starting in April of 2017. with episode 101
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but the focus for this week is one of the Missouri cases a case still active today
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it was the picture that was in the first of many rows of faces the tenth face in the row
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Heather Nicole colorne from St Louis Heather vanished under mysterious circumstances on a hot July night in
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1999. this is the story of the search for Heather colorne and this is true crime
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garage [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] starts off in July of 1999. the unfortunate victim in this
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story is twelve-year-old Heather killorn she was last seen on July 14 1999. this was at 10 pm now most of the
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websites out there will typically list Heather as missing since July 15th the next day well that is because what
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police rightfully have focused in on is a six hour window the six hour window that we will be talking about today is
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from 10 p.m on the 14th to 4 a.m on the 15th it appears that police have narrowed down the whatever happened to
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Heather as happening in this window of time Heather was 12 the night that she disappeared she was spending the night
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in an apartment complex in Richmond Heights Missouri this is a neighborhood in the Greater St Louis area
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what has been told to police is that Heather was to be babysitting a two-month-old baby girl overnight and on
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that night the baby was the daughter of 23 year old Dana Madden and 34 year old Christopher
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Herbert these two were both friends with Christine colorne Christine is Heather's
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mother we will get into that relationship some more as we go through everything and
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before we get into the details of the night in question let's discuss what we know about Heather leading up to The
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Disappearance so Heather was only 12 years old she didn't live at this apartment complex she lived with her
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mother and brother on Vermont Avenue this is in the Greater St Louis area as well Heather's mother Christine
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is a single mother of two Heather has an older brother named Matthew one of Heather's favorite things was the nearby
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Six Flags amusement park to which Heather had his season pass Heather was described as mature for her
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age I believe someone said it was like she was 12 going on 30. Heather was excited about her babysitting gig and
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she was looking forward to spending the summer earning some money a lot of kids you know going into their teenage years
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want to earn a little cash so they can spend it you know maybe it's at this amusement park but I do think it's kind
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of a tall task for a 12 year old to be watching a two-month-old overnight I agree Captain I remember we all like to
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get those summer jobs and start earning a little bit of money it sounds like Heather was looking
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forward to saving up some money and there's a few different versions of what she was saving this money for some have
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said that this would be for Christmas gifts that year and others had said that it could be for personal items or items
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of a more personal nature or items for her own entertainment Heather was social we know this from
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school and her Six Flags pass she would visit with friends and hang out with them at the amusement park but nothing
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was mentioned about boys or her being more concerned about spending time with friends that summer rather than going
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off and having this job and making some money it appears captain that the summer was
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going to be spent primarily with this babysitting gig and using her Six Flags pass
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so it's summertime we have a 12 year old watching a two-month-old overnight and Heather was just I believe 410 just
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under 100 pounds so pretty small she was just out of the sixth grade but a little
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bad news here unfortunately Heather was due to return to sixth grade after the summer time this was not about Behavior
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or grades unfortunately it was due to absences during the course of her sixth grade year Heather got sick and she
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began missing a lot of school days in February of 1999 she was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes this meant regular
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required daily insulin injections by the summer of 99 Heather had learned to manage her diabetes this was some
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reminders and supervision from her mother Christine before we get into the more ominous parts of our story there
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was a detail here that I found to be rather Charming if you look up Heather on the web often what will come up is a
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funny picture of Heather with no eyebrows so this picture was taken after a day when she decided she was going to
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take on some of her own Beauty regimen by plucking eyebrows and uh this turned into having to shave them off
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I'm sure that many of us can remember times when we attempted our own haircut when we were young and it didn't turn
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out so well but I also believe that she chopped up her bangs pretty bad as well during this
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same time period leading up to her disappearance and there's a couple different reports out there and I I'm
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I'm uncertain as to why this would be here Captain so it states that she would have been spending a week
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with the couple and their new daughter and there's at least one source that had said that the
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intention was for her to stay two weeks with the couple and their daughter so she's going to be hanging out with the
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couple and watching the kid while they're there assisting with the kid while they're there and also watching
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the baby when they are both not able to be there as far as work goes we do know that Dana Madden 23 year old
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she had a job at a gas station and oftentimes she would work the night shift she would work the third trick
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Christopher Herbert his work status is a little more foggy uh and that will become obvious for
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obvious reasons as we go through the timeline and the events that took place after Heather went missing yeah again
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I'll repeat it I just think a 12 year old watching a two-month-old is irresponsible especially to have
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somebody watching a child where they don't have any means of transportation themselves right and it I think it's
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irresponsible on several levels so I think that it was probably a bad idea for Heather's mother to allow this to take
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place I also think it's a bad idea for the mother and father of the two-month-old to think that a 12 year
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old would be capable of handling such a tall task but that's neither here nor there none of that can be changed now
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we should State here that Heather was in constant contact with her mother this for a multitude of reasons but primarily
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Christine was checking in with her daughter Heather to monitor the diabetes situation and to constantly remind her
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daughter hey you got to be checking everything and you got to be taking your medication as scheduled that's the most
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important thing here as far as Christine was concerned and then depending on what
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route you'll look at from home to home we're talking about a 15 20 minute drive for mother to get to daughter should
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Heather need something the interesting part here too Captain like one thing I I couldn't wrap my head
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around early on in looking at this case was like you said not just why would we have
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a 12 year old watching a two-month-old but why would my 12 year old be staying with another couple
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and I think I felt a little better about this the more I kind of dived into the the relationship there so Christine was
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to be good friends with Dana man the mother at the the apartment where she'll be watching the two-year-old and then
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Christopher Herbert who is older than Dana Christopher Herbert's 34 Dana Madden's 23 the father of the
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two-month-old he has known Christine Heather's mother and Heather for a good deal of time so at one point
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Christopher and Heather's mother had an on and off again relationship and Christopher would stay
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at Christine and Heather's house or apartment on occasion so he was rather close to Heather before any of this took
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place as well this doesn't make me feel any better about the situation you're basically saying that her mom and
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and this guy were were in a relationship yes at one time they were in a relationship yeah I'm what I'm getting
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at though Captain is I was concerned going into this situation where we may have a male living in the apartment with
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a 12 year old girl being inserted into a situation with a man that she does not know right they have a lengthy history
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both the male and the female Christopher and Dana so the police have really narrowed down this timeline to about a
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six hour window so let's go over the night in question yes and I think one thing that we should
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point out here regardless of if if it was supposed to be a one-week stint or a two-week period that she would be
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assisting the the new parents that this was not night one you know this was not the first night that she was to be there
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and the the other thing that that's unsettling here as well you have to wonder with Dana working overnight how
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many of these evenings how many of these babysitting shifts for Heather were to be overnight her alone with the
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two-month-old overnight in this apartment complex and not gonna lie it was pretty easy and
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pretty quick to figure out that this apartment complex not the best area not not the kind of area that I'm going to
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move into and raise a two-month-old so we have Christopher Herbert and Dana Madden their newborn baby living at 1646
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Yale Avenue and the way that this story works is that 23 year old Dana Mann she says that
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she goes to work her overnight shift she's going to be showing up for her shift leaving the apartment about 10 pm
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that night with the intention of returning after her shift is done at 7 00 am the following morning Christopher
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Herbert Heather killorn and the two-month daughter are all at the apartment when
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Dana Madden leaves let's fast forward to around 4 a.m or after 4 a.m sometime in
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the 4 a.m hour Christopher Herbert comes home he said he left the apartment at 10
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30 p.m that night when he arrives the following morning it's still dark out of course in that 4 a.m hour
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he says that even through the door before he even opens up his front door he could hear his baby inside crying
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right he thought that when he opened up the door he would see Heather trying to console the the little girl or taking
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care of the little girl trying to figure out why she is crying and how we could stop them
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unfortunately Christopher says that when he went into the apartment he does not find Heather he only finds
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his crying little two-month-old daughter where but where does Christopher say he
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went let's save that for when the police arrive here Captain because what we have
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here is his next move is going to be calling his girlfriend Dana Mann at work he calls her and there's some
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discrepancy on how lengthy this conversation was there's some discrepancy on how this
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phone call played out some say he calls in talks to Dana briefly Dana gets off the phone calls
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the police reports Heather missing the other version of that story is that he called Dana they end up in an argument
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on the phone and then after the argument Dana hangs up calls police to me I don't think it really matters
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exactly what happened on that phone call as far as the discrepancies in those two
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stories I couldn't imagine there not being an argument well on that phone call it's an
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intense situation so somebody passing by and hearing this conversation could mistake Panic worry and uh maybe a
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little frustration with each other that you know that doesn't mean that they're arguing and the two likely
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reported it differently to police right right you you're talking to Dana you're talking to Christopher you're talking to
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them separately Dana's probably saying yeah I gave him I gave him the business I gave him the what for when he called
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me I was panicking this is my friend's daughter and Christopher maybe he saw it a
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different way maybe he's he's looking for Heather he's concerned he's in a panic State doesn't feel like it was
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necessarily an argument just two people as you said excited panicked uh maybe raised voices because of the situation
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with no intent of arguing or debating who's to blame here right police are on the scene a little after 5 a.m they're
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at the apartment and they are searching the apartment complex they are searching
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the apartment the surrounding areas looking for Heather now you had asked about where did Christopher Herbert say
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that he was well he told police that he left the apartment at 10 30 that night and he left the apartment to take a
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friend home well that seems a little strange it shouldn't take five and a half hours
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to take a friend home and police were on to that very quickly they questioned Christopher Herbert why would you tell
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us you were gone a whole five and a half hours he didn't have a solid answer for
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that what he did have was a a second story I was at a park near the riverbank and a friend and I
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went there to party together and when I came home Heather was gone so you go to a park after 10 pm chances
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are if that's uh State Park is not open after a certain time period I don't trust any of these people that
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they change their story immediately well of course yeah and when two-story Chris
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well it's going to turn into more like four-story Chris before we get done with with our story
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um so they speak with Christopher and immediately he changes his story as said he's out partying in a park with one of
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his buddies and when he returns Heather is not there now they start going around
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and they are looking through the apartment complex they're knocking on doors and one of the doors that they
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knock on is a man by the name of Mike Mason Mike Mason is a friend of Christopher Herbert's They Know Each
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Other Well and in fact Mike Mason knows Heather killorn as well because he is often over at Herbert's apartment
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very quickly in the search for Heather what they discover Captain is drug paraphernalia in the apartment complex
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itself in fact where they find it is in a garage a detached garage that is shared by these two men Christopher
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Herbert and Mike Mason what's unclear here Captain is who all had access to this garage right
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we know that these two guys who lived in separate dwellings both had access to this garage both its reported had shared
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the garage but where they're sharing the garage with anybody else that is a good question but they find
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paraphernalia in this garage area and later after some some hardcore work they determined that they're probably cooking
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methamphetamines in this garage [Music] [Music] thank you [Music] all right we are back to the windows to
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here Captain you can see already how murky and how foggy this story is going to be
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for the investigators they're really trying to hone in on what could have happened to this missing girl where
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could she be where can we locate her how can we bring her home safe and as you pointed out and as I agreed I
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don't think we don't think she was already placed in the best of situations and now we're dealing with the the worst
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of the worst a true nightmare well another thing too is if if her mother actually knew these individuals like you
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said this 34 year old man leaves he it was capable of staying at home but he leaves to take his friend home
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again we have no mention of that friend initially being at the house when um when the wife leaves for work
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he's gone for five hours and when they start searching the premises they find evidence that they're cooking
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methamphetamines so if you knew these individuals you probably knew what they were involved in
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that's another reason not to have your daughter watching their two-month-old exactly and here's the thing here too
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captain and I know that police have sorted some of this mess out I know that they have their suspects in this case
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but the timeline is unclear because of what we pointed out before the break you said old two-story Christopher well
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I said four story Christopher the whole stories here are going to create a bunch
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of problems for our timeline that we are going to try to sort out that timeline should lead us to who is most likely to
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have actually seen Heather last so what we do have here Captain one box that we can check is that 10 p.m box so that 10
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p.m that night Dana Madden says that she leaves to go to her overnight shift she
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intends to work the shift they follow up on that law enforcement follows up on that they confirm 100 percent Dana
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Madden was at work that night arrived on time and she was still there when the when the phone call came in from
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Christopher that Heather was missing what's unclear and I know you were kind of dancing around this just a second ago
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the first story that Christopher supplies to the police is that he drove a friend home well who was that friend
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and was he at the apartment at the time that Dana left the apartment yeah or was
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it a situation where the friend calls on him I'm at work can you pick me up and take me home
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Christopher's story has always been that he left the apartment at 10 30. what's tricky here is we know this from
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the information that came out from law enforcement the next morning after Heather is
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reported missing when they are out knocking on doors looking for Heather hoping to find her in somebody's
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apartment one of the people they talked to is this Mike Mason who is friends with Christopher friends with Dana
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he says he knows Heather doesn't know where she is didn't see her that night according to his statements
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the police then asked Mike Mason if he could drive to Dana's place of work at the gas station in nearby St Louis pick
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her up and return her to the apartment complex so what that implies is that maybe she did not drive herself
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to work that night so is it possible that the husband leaves with the friend and leaves with his wife to drop her off
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and then drop him off it's see that's what's difficult to sort out because Christopher's story has always been and
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and one thing we should say in his defense he does give different stories but in all of his stories he's leaving
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the apartment at 10 30 and returning to the apartment a little after four that part always stays the same in his
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stories so you're right does Christopher have to drive Dana to work and we know that this
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is only it's only about a 10 minute drive so he could in theory return to the apartment
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then his buddy comes over or he meets up with a buddy and be there for a few minutes and decide to leave at 10 30 and
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and return his friend what is not likely is that he returned his friend to the friend's home it's
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probably more likely that his friend and Christopher get in the same vehicle at 10 30 they go off to the park and now
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they're drinking and getting high together well it's all fishy and it's all suspect
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and like I said I mean you're you're the mother of this 12 year old daughter you're sending her over there to a
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babysit a two-month old and it's like yeah you've been friends with these individuals for a while but
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then you you probably know that they have some drug use in their history or their
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or their currently drug users and now you have the situation where like like you said you were finding evidence that
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they're cooking meth in a in a garage in these apartments it's yeah it would be very difficult for us to sit here and
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try to sort out what uh her mother Christine knew about these two and what she didn't know what we do
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know is that Heather was supposed to be there and and what we have to sort out is Christopher Herbert's versions of his
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story so version one and two are different in the sense that he goes off to return his
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friend home version two he and his friend are at the park drinking and getting high together and
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then he returns at 4am again the thing that that always stays true in those two stories or or Remains the Same I
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shouldn't say stays true Remains the Same in those two stories is that he left at 10 30 and returned a little
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after 4 AM in version three he left at 10 30. returned at 4 am so that stays the same
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he's at the park same park near the riverbank near the river and they are he and his friend are
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making meth there Story 4 gets even even more out there well surprise surprise what's
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interesting to me is a couple things here police seem to all agree that the 10 P.M
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statement from Dana Madden she went to work Heather was alive and fine I that's the last time I saw her
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it seems like police have reason to believe that that is accurate right that they have evidence to back up that that
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part of this story is a truth so whatever happened we now need to be concerned starting at 1001 PM the night
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before up until Christopher calls Dana at her work the following morning which is in the four o'clock hour well in this
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case we have a good report coming from a newspaper article on what the police were seeing as they arrived to check out
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figure out what's going on and where is this missing girl right so for a little Clarity here July
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15th would have been a Thursday that week in 1999. this report comes from the St Louis Post Dispatch and they're
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reporting this on Saturday July 17th they're getting their information from the police as they worked the
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investigation on that Thursday they're giving information to the newspaper the Friday morning so the article is by
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Valerie shrimp and she states as follows police said that they suspect foul play
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in The Disappearance of 12-year-old Heather killorn who was last seen early Thursday morning in a Richmond Heights
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Apartment about 2 A.M Thursday a neighbor so we have a potential eyewitness here
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according to this report it says at about 2 A.M that Thursday a neighbor taking out his dog
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says that he saw a man carrying a child who would have been about Heather's age out of the apartment
00:36:48
when they say the apartment they mean Christopher and Dana's apartment right this witness or potential eyewitness
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says the child's upper body was wrapped in a comforter she was not wearing shoes
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and appeared to be sleeping investigators said the neighbors report plus other evidence LED them to suspect
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Foul Play quote it supports our belief that she didn't leave on her own this from Lieutenant Robert Lowry Jr of the
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St Louis area major case Squad police described this comforter as an off-white with faded flowers quilted on one side
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and flat Cotton On The Other Side authorities said they were concentrating their investigation on people who knew
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Heather and then this is going to add to the thought of Foul Play police say that they found blood inside
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the apartment oh God but test had yet to determine if the blood belonged to the missing girl Heather blood was found
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outside of the apartment now this turned out to be blood that was from a neighbor who had
00:38:03
been bitten by a dog recently police said some of the belongings in the apartment were out of place after
00:38:11
the girl was reported missing but authorities were not releasing a whole lot of details they go on to tell the
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public that Heather is a diabetic who needs two shots of insulin a day without them she would become dehydrated and
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slip into a diabetic coma well this is where it becomes tricky because because of her
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new it's a new situation for her as far as being diabetic and having to test and again she's young she's 12 years old
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this is a again if if my daughter just found out she was diabetic and we needed to make sure that she had insulin and
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made sure that we test multiple times a day I want her around me as much as possible I'd want her to be staying at
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home as much as possible until we get the situation under control because there could be an accident there could
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be something this guy leaves for a little bit and and she goes into some a coma State and freaks out
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and instead of calling the cops because he's either high on drugs or involved with drug making and probably drug
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selling he's he's less likely to call 9-1-1 right and the thing here too Captain is that may be what the argument
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would have been about it had there been one on the call from Christopher to Dana
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Madden he may have been telling her don't know don't call the police I got some stuff around here I need to
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clean up and hide I got some things we gotta we gotta sort out before we can have the law knocking on the door
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and the this article gives a little more detail saying that Dana Madden and Christopher Herbert had lived in that
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apartment for about a year uh prior to this disappearance their daughter is two months old as we said earlier and this
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report states that Heather had been staying with them since Saturday to help watch the baby and as we said
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the the time in question is Thursday morning so she's been there a couple of nights leading up to the night that she
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goes missing they do state openly in this article that Christopher Herbert has made conflicting
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statements to police but he is not considered a suspect at this time and I hate when they say that just say
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everybody is a suspect at this time we have a missing 12 year old girl but the neighbor
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if you get a good enough look where you can identify this comforter wouldn't you be able to identify your
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neighbor because he was neighbors with Christopher wouldn't he be able to say and it was Christopher that was carrying
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this child out so that's where the problem Falls here so we have the neighbor who says I saw a man carrying a
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child the child's wrapped in a comforter no shoes on and appeared to be sleeping
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they have a description of the comforter this is not coming from the the neighbor
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the and I keep saying potential eyewitness and you'll understand very quickly why
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because he was high on methamphetamines the the description of the comforter is coming from Dana Madden and Christopher
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Herbert the the two that that own the comforter that that live in reside in the apartment
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so when when police searched the apartment basically there's two things missing from the apartment
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Heather and this comforter right her shoes are still there more importantly her medicine that she requires according to
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this article twice a day to survive is there that's the scary thing for mom when she first hears about her daughter
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missing amongst other things my daughter's missing oh and she's she's without her medicine that she's required
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to take that she needs so she becomes a endangered missing very quickly yes and then on top of that as we said police
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are openly stating to the public on Saturday or I'm sorry on Friday this article comes out on Saturday but on
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Friday morning so they're stating we suspect Foul Play We have evidence of Foul Play the
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eyewitness the potential eyewitness unfortunately could not describe the male other than
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tall and white I believe was the very basic description that was given right this man who was walking his dog at 2 am
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it's dark it's what what's really kind of intriguing too here Captain about this situation is this is not one of
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those large apartment complexes so many times when we're covering murder cases or missing persons case and we're
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talking about apartment complexes we're talking about large ones where you may have 150 units or 60 units and you you
00:43:15
could have a hundred people or 200 people living in in a confined area this apartment complex only has a very few
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units so we don't have a ton of people living here this neighbor out walking his dog
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is legally blind without his required glasses and of course he's not wearing his
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glasses at 2 am when he took the dog out for a walk yeah I believe the police's statement was he's blind in one eye and
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he can't see out of the other the thing though is note the time that he says he says he's walking the dog at 2 00 A.M
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and this is one of the parts of the story where look I have a hard time believing some
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of Christopher's stories obviously I have a hard time believing some of the statements that will come from Mike
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Mason right and I'm sure everybody out there is also questioning Dana Mann what does she know or what did she suspect
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but part of the story that that I have a hard time not believing is this guy out
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walking his dog even though he can't describe the the child that he sees even though he can't describe the man that's
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carrying the child I kind of believe he probably saw somebody carrying a child roughly Heather's age
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outside of that apartment carrying out of that apartment that night at 2 A.M absolutely absolutely I believe he saw
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something and it's hard to buy Christopher's story because like you said what does he do not change
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the time he left and the time he returned well why would that be important because if you know that we
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took the girl out of the house at 2 A.M you need to make sure that your story lines up that you weren't there at 2AM
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right he needs to make sure that he's not there at 2 A.M so just because that part of the story never changes doesn't
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mean I believe anything coming from this piece of shit's mouth at the time of The Disappearance in this
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article they are pointing out that Heather is four feet ten inches tall weighing 75 pounds she has medium brown
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hair and hazel eyes and police were asking anyone who knows of Heather's whereabouts or any of her acquaintances
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so even if you don't know about her whereabouts uh please call the Richmond Heights Police at
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314-645-4413 because they're trying to sort out they they very quickly have a lot of
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reasons to believe that either the person that took Heather the person responsible for her
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disappearance knew her that the two knew each other or this person has a direct connection
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to that apartment to that apartment unit [Music] thank you foreign us back here in the garage tomorrow same
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bat Time same bat Channel and until then be good be kind and don't litter [Applause]
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thank you [Music]

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This episode stands out for the following:

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    Most heartbreaking
  • 75
    Most intense
  • 70
    Most shocking
  • 70
    Most unpredictable

Episode Highlights

  • A Sea of Faces
    In a hypnotizing moment, the narrator reflects on a sea of faces, representing missing children.
    “It was in this world that all I could see was a sea of faces.”
    @ 03m 07s
    June 14, 2023
  • The Disappearance of Heather Colorne
    A twelve-year-old girl vanished under mysterious circumstances in July 1999, sparking a search that continues today.
    “This is the story of the search for Heather Colorne.”
    @ 08m 17s
    June 14, 2023
  • Mature Beyond Her Years
    Heather was described as mature for her age, with aspirations for her summer babysitting gig.
    “Heather was described as mature for her age; 12 going on 30.”
    @ 10m 50s
    June 14, 2023
  • Conflicting Stories
    Christopher Herbert provides conflicting accounts of his whereabouts during Heather's disappearance.
    “Christopher's story has always been that he left the apartment at 10:30.”
    @ 30m 54s
    June 14, 2023
  • Foul Play Suspected
    Police suspect foul play in the disappearance of 12-year-old Heather Killorn.
    “We suspect foul play.”
    @ 36m 18s
    June 14, 2023
  • Eyewitness Account
    A neighbor reported seeing a man carrying a child resembling Heather at 2 A.M.
    “She was not wearing shoes and appeared to be sleeping.”
    @ 36m 45s
    June 14, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • I was lost somewhere between those two worlds of sleep and perfectly aware.
    Heather Kullorn /// Part 1 /// 675
  • This is the story of the search for Heather Colorne.
    Heather Kullorn /// Part 1 /// 675
  • Heather was described as mature for her age; 12 going on 30.
    Heather Kullorn /// Part 1 /// 675
  • It's a true nightmare.
    Heather Kullorn /// Part 1 /// 675
  • We suspect foul play.
    Heather Kullorn /// Part 1 /// 675
  • She was not wearing shoes and appeared to be sleeping.
    Heather Kullorn /// Part 1 /// 675

Key Moments

  • Missing Persons04:50
  • Babysitting Gig10:59
  • Search Begins22:58
  • Meth in Garage25:55
  • Missing Girl28:31
  • Foul Play36:18
  • Eyewitness Report36:45
  • Police Investigation37:34

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