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September 03, 2018 / 10:30

This episode discusses listener engagement, case selection, and the challenges of covering true crime stories. Hosts Howard and his co-host address questions about the longevity of their show and the material they cover.

They mention that they receive many case suggestions from listeners, which helps them select topics for their episodes. Howard emphasizes the importance of detailed emails from listeners, as these often lead to more interesting cases.

The conversation touches on popular cases like JonBenet Ramsey and Steven Avery, discussing why they receive frequent requests and the challenges of covering them due to the volume of existing material.

Howard reflects on the nature of true crime, noting that many cases remain unsolved and that advancements in forensic science have changed how cases are approached. They also consider the possibility of covering well-known cases in a different format.

The hosts express appreciation for their audience's involvement and the variety of cases suggested, while also acknowledging the difficulty in addressing some of the more infamous cases.

TLDR

Hosts discuss listener case suggestions and the challenges of covering popular true crime stories.

Episode

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[Applause] hit him with the hi hit him with the hime I've been saying that ball yeah Howard old Howard the
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question here's a question that I think I'm always going to get and the question
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usually is had a good conversation all are you and the answer is seven foot four how much do you weigh four hundred
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and sixty-one pounds everybody thinks you're like sixty and overweight they say you sound maybe I have the voice of
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a 60 year old overweight man is that what it is that's I sound like that or maybe I talk maybe the way I think you
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have arts together facing ahead of that and you the rest of your body's skinny but well I told you remember I won the
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mr. potato man contest which which paid five dollars to the winner but anyway great conversation that I had
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Friday night over a couple drinks and it's a question that I keep hearing is when do you think that you'll run out of
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material when do you think that the show will rincon with won't have anything to
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talk about you mean Who am I drink it who are you drinking I'm not going to say who I was
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drinking that's not important but what is important is that question love and no no I
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that here because I've been asked that by a hundred different times by a hundred different people
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when will the show be over is that what they're asking no no that's not it it's when will we not have enough material to
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continue the show right then the show would be over right yes that's but that's that's not the call right but
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that's not the question you and my easy response to that is as [ __ ] you no no it's if we lived in a perfect
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world this show would have never have started to begin with in and unfortunately we see on the news every
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single day something terrible some person some POS doing something terrible to somebody else and that's a crime and
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we talk about true crime it's like it's it's almost never-ending it's in it and in the heat of the moment in the back of
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my mind and no disrespect to anybody but I'm always like seems like such a silly question like it like a it just
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doesn't you know I mean it doesn't seem like a go-to to me so people were making
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conversation yeah but there there's a difference between you know a murder and an interesting murder well there's some
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cases that aren't that interesting or there's not much information there so and that's one thing I don't think a lot
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of I don't think some of the listeners understand is that yeah oh but hold on to because you're talking about there's
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a lot of cases that go on solved and some of that is due to the lack of scientific evidence or or the procedures
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you know or the testing that they can do I mean back in the day you you hope that
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you find a fingerprint mm-hmm you know now with DNA testing with all the other tests that they can do these cases are
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becoming more solved and I think there is I think what they're getting at is there's a lot of these some of the most
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fascinating cases are the unsolved cases hmm and are we gonna see that yeah I I can agree with that I you know we are
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very lucky to we get a lot of our let's call it material or cases that we that's
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better to say cases that we select to put on the show from the listeners you know we get emails we get tweets and we
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get it's a lot of hey guys would you look into this or hey guys would you cover this story this is a case I knew
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about from my childhood or from my hometown and we've said this before the better the email the better the
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information on the email the faster that thing gets to our shortlist and of course sometimes we get emails that say
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hey I live in Chicago and some guy disappeared here in the 90s could you look into it no we can't I mean because
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most likely there were several people that that happened to we don't know who you're
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talking about all right right but if they give us a name or or its it always helps if they give you a name possibly a
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link you know or possibly here's the name here's the you know here's a couple missing posters you know sometimes the
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emails are very detailed oh yeah yeah no I love those links are great and the reason being is if you just give us a
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victim's name if it's especially if it's a common name right you know at least name and location is great it really
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helps us narrow it down but you know I was telling this person I said the the great thing about our listeners is that
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they want to be involved and they are involved and they reach out to us and they're like hey cover this case and so
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I told them I said you know they do some of the legwork in a sense for us because
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we pick all of our cases from listener suggestions yeah and the funny thing is we've done so many shows that now we
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receive suggestions for cases that we've already covered from time to time and I
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never know how to reply well sometimes they're new listeners that they haven't listened to the old stuff and then the
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other thing too is I didn't I didn't really think about this at the time when we were doing it but if you were a new
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listener and you were just like flipping through our back catalogue and looking for stuff to listen to if we didn't
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title something the offender's name or the victim's name right you know because sometimes we get kind of story bookish
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and we will a clever name will present itself or we will come up with one from time to time and so if you're flipping
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through the catalog and you see something like the fifth nail well that doesn't tell you the victims names or
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the offender's name right but very lucky to receive those from all of our wonderful listeners and we I want except
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for the people that send me JonBenet Ramsey and Steven Avery okay so is it because I think we've mentioned
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well we've definitely mentioned multiple times that that the JonBenet Ramsey one
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is this it's a mountain of the case right so and it's big covered by so many people so I
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understand that you know and maybe that's something that we'll cover loosely one day I'm there actually
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should be a bunch of popular cases that people ask us for that we should just cover on off the record because they
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don't actually want to hear all the details mm-hmm you just really want to hear our
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thoughts okay you know I mean like a lot of people are like yeah okay like this person last week was like saying cover
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JonBenet Ramsey I said well there's tons of people that cover that I mean we're talking about the house and some and
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some people have covered it very well yeah and some people not so well so we're talking about we're talking about
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it would take us weeks to get that information so so it it probably have to be if we ever did cover it it'd have to
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be there's so much misinformation of that case it'd have to be like when we had a week off mm-hmm so we'd have two
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weeks to research it and then so then I also said well you know CBS did a really
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good job of going over some of this evidence and kind of laying out some of the the thoughts there and she goes yeah
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I just really want to hear your guys thoughts on it right and so maybe some of those cases we should just go hey
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we're gonna go over the details but this is what our gut feeling is saying after
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we've looked at that but that's that's an incredibly interesting idea and credit just to take just to go hey it's
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better than whatever we're talking about right now well so here's the thing this is a good
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question what would you say are the top two or three you know I'm not gonna hold
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you to a specific number but what would because we receive these requests sometimes they email both of us
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sometimes they email us separately and of course you do the social media stuff so people are reaching out to you that
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way as well 100 messages behind on Instagram what what would you say would be the top two or three cases that get
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recommended or requested to you um JonBenet Ramsey oh guys Steven Avery I already give those obviously Scott
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Pearson okay those three lately which is weird because those three I very rarely receive a request for which
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but but I think I've put out there that on something I mean I'm extremely fascinated by the
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job and a Ramsey case extremely menacing scott pearson case i never was interested and i just thought he was a
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horrible dick nose and and move on you know he's convicted and but lately you know i'm a big adam carolla fan i was
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listening to adam carolla talk and Mark Geragos is Scott Pearson's attorney and he said definitively that his client
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didn't do it and that he believes that when they get a chance they're gonna be able to prove that and I have a lot of
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respect for Mark Geragos and so the fact that he said that I'm going what does he
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know that is not being presented because there is a theory that there was some home break-ins you know in that area so
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that possibly the perverts breaking into the houses would be responsible for his
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wife and his daughter's death well and I can absolutely say this that's a case that we plan to cover at some point
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problem

Episode Highlights

  • Unsolved Cases
    The fascination with unsolved cases drives listener interest and engagement.
    “Some of the most fascinating cases are the unsolved cases.”
    @ 03m 48s
    September 03, 2018
  • Listener Engagement
    Listeners actively suggest cases, shaping the content of the show.
    “The great thing about our listeners is that they want to be involved.”
    @ 05m 25s
    September 03, 2018
  • Popular Case Requests
    JonBenet Ramsey and Steven Avery are frequently requested cases by listeners.
    “What would you say are the top two or three cases that get recommended?”
    @ 08m 34s
    September 03, 2018

Episode Quotes

  • Seems like such a silly question.
    Off The Record /// Episode #19 Clip
  • The better the email, the faster it gets to our shortlist.
    Off The Record /// Episode #19 Clip
  • We're talking about it would take us weeks to get that information.
    Off The Record /// Episode #19 Clip

Key Moments

  • Silly Questions02:35
  • Unsolved Mysteries03:48
  • Listener Involvement05:25
  • Case Requests08:34

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