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[Music] [Music] we've all seen the movies about conmen scam artist and the smooth talking
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types someone quick to play you for the fool or someone in it for the long game the slow
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play sometimes they manage to be so good that they leave the cops scratching their heads after the grifter skips town
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of disbelief they there is a real life case that makes those Hollywood scam artists
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look like amateurs in this case the con man fools the almighty FBI time and time
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again this man turned on his friends used the feds to keep him out of prison and anyone that got too close or Knew
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Too Much with total disregard for human life or relationships he disposed of them just how twisted was this man and
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what do we really know about his murders or motives this is true crime garage this
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is the case of Scott Le [Music] Kimbell [Music] in 2005 Scott Lee Kimble received his
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punishment for theft and for fleeing this is for the time he split from the Montana prison release and stole money
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and a truck from the gas station that he was working at now he pleed guilty but again he was allowed to go free on
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supervised release just how supervised was this release well that depends on whether you think fraud and
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murder are permissible activities while on supervised release things started to fall apart for Lori and Scott the police
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were called to a domestic altercation at Scott and Lor's house and they arrested
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someone for assault surprise it was Lori according to Lori Scott called the cops
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and reported that she threatened to kill him and threw a vacuum at him police even issued Scott a restraining order
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protecting him from his wife Lori was arrested again in August for violating the restraining order she believes that
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Scott invented the whole thing invented the whole story to get rid of her so that he could bring in his new
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girlfriend this is Melissa Anderson uh get her out of the house and bring Melissa in as you may recall Scott had
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told the FBI that Jennifer Markham who is missing that she went to New York to kill Jason price at her boyfriend's
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request but he then later says that price had strangled Jennifer Markham and Scott remember he claims to have even
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seen photographs of the body so agents they go to speak with Jason price he has a completely different story Sur
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surprise there you go not only did he not kill Jennifer Markham but he says that he actually suspects that Scott
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would be involved in The Disappearance of Jennifer and Steve Anis he's the boyfriend uh of Jennifer Markham that
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that Scott knew in prison he denies that he ever involved Jennifer in any of his illegal
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activities Scott seems like and we suggest Ed this last week Captain sounds like he made up the entire story one to
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get him out of prison two it ends up getting him involved with Jennifer Markham who is now missing and he's
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pointing the finger at other people well we know Scott is a liar but I also think
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Scott has a tendency when he was in the cell with this individual he sees Jennifer Markham and she's very
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attractive and so he's Smitten by her and he wants to get to knowwhere he wants her for himself well and remember
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he is put in charge of keeping an eye on Jennifer Markham because he told the Feds that there's this whole murder For
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Hire plot that's going on and that they need to keep an eye on her she is missing now so they're still trying to
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figure out can we trust this guy uh who's telling us these stories maybe maybe he is on the up and up and he is
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actually helping us no no no here here here's the problem when somebody's in jail for fraudulent
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charges this this is your red flag from the beginning you might have this guy be
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an informant for you but you might have to track him very closely because him lying and scamming people is
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what landed him into prison right he's he's a known liar known scammer and it's kind of like it's almost like they
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forgot about that you got involved with him and now you're having a hard time believing that he could possibly be
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lying to you right so what's interesting though remember they did make him take a
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polygraph test to try to figure out is he on the up and up is he telling them the truth or what at least Scott
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believes to be the truth and he passed that polygraph that was in regards Strictly To The Disappearance of
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Jennifer Markham now they're questioning all that behavior again especially after
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they speak with Steve Anis and they speak with J Jason price so they want to give Scott another the FBI decided to
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make Scott take another lie detector test when questioned about Jennifer Markham this time his answers showed
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deception right now Scott around this same time he moves into a rental house after the whole cattle ranch thing
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seemed to be a fail he paid for the rental this with checks the bouncing of course then in late 2005 Scott wrecked
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his Jeep and collected $1,799 2016 in insurance money then two weeks later Scott reported to the Lafayette PD
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that his trailer remember the one that he stole well he reported someone stole it
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from him and for this he collected $110,000 in insurance money meanwhile ridiculous Scott had his
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girlfriend Melissa Anderson use her name and her identification to purchase a Winchester
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rifle at Walmart and then give it to him remember because of his past charges and
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convictions he is not allowed to possess a firearm it's after he gets the gun from
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the new girlfriend that he decides oh I no longer need you and he ditches m this time for
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good now let's get back to Jennifer Markham who's missing the FBI entered her name as a missing person in the
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National Crime information center database law enforcement agencies were under pressure from jennif Jennifer's
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family to find her Jennifer was a dancer who was involved with a known and convicted drug dealer but she had
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Parents who loved her very much and loved her little boy despondent that she was missing and frustrated at the lack
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of interest from the FBI her father Bob Markham asked a cop buddy of his to run his daughter's name through a national
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criminal database hoping that maybe you know maybe she was in jail somewhere or even in witness protection somewhere
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this search alerted agent schla remember he's the one who had been working with Scott Kimbell
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agent schla contacts Bob and told him that they could not find Jennifer Markham that she's she's missing and he
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actually said that it it appears that quote she just dropped off the map well it's not
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really clear what happened to her child either well the the child is at I believe with the parents with her
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parents okay so they're raising her child correct okay so now we have schlaf he tells Bob that a man was in
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possession of Jennifer's Furniture remember she moved in temporarily very briefly with Scott
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Kimble now he does not mention Scott Kimble's name when he gives her this information but he does give Bob a phone
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number of the man who has Jennifer's Furniture and when he hands it over when he hands over the phone number Captain
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he says Bob when you call this number ask for guy named Joe snitch so Bob and his ex-wife which is
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Jennifer's mom uh Mary Willis is her name they set up a meeting with this man with Joe snitch AKA we know to be Scott
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Kimble yeah douche Kimble they told Scott Kimble going under the name of Joe snitch tells Bob
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and Mary that Jennifer was murdered and he knew who did it and even where her body could be located and how it
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happened yeah he offered to take them to her body but he says this is somewhere far away and Joe snitch gave them a very
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bad feeling when they met so immediately the two declined they didn't want to spend any more time with this guy let's
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not gloss over this too much they're at a park they they meet at a park right and when they meet at that Park he lets
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them know I I can show you everything can I can tell you everything but but the reason why he can't he can't
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actually verbally say it right because he says it's classified information mhm this is this is what was confusing to me
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at first like why would he be able to show them but not tell them but his his ruse
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is that this is classified information so I'd get in big trouble but I can show you so they go back to their hotel and
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and they're contemplating this well at least her mother is she's saying well I want to go up in these mountains I want
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I want him to show me and her ex-husband saying you're going to die if you do this he's probably going
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to kill you uh and her statement was well at least she would know I'm like yeah but what would
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knowing matter if seconds later you're you're dead and again they don't know the
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history of Scott but he's such a liar is he going to even tell them the correct information but what a strange thing for
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somebody to tell you especially somebody that you think is a part of law enforcement well and somebody that gave
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you a bad enough vibe that you didn't want to go up into the mountains with them or to to this place that he says is
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somewhere far away right so I wasn't going to gloss over that in fact let's get into that a little more um the the
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weird move as you stated is Scott says to Mary you know mind you she's in her own hotel room let me come over to your
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hotel room that night and I will demonstrate on you how Jennifer was killed you know well well play play a
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little role playing and act this thing out right of course Mary declines but Scott shows up at Mary's hotel room
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anyway that night and she very wisely does not let him into the room now much later this is much much later down the
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timeline but I want to point it out here so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle police actually found what would be look
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to be like a contract that was drawn up of sorts right this is when they were going through some of Scott's things now
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the contract air quotes is dated with the date of that night that same night that Scott shows up to the hotel room to
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Mary's hotel room saying I can demonstrate for you how your daughter was killed MH this contract of course is
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intended to be between Mary and Joe Scott or Joe snitch the contract according to the wording
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allowed Scott to bind gag and possibly even have sex with Mary Mary would have been signing off for consent to as the
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contract States and quote I am willing to participate and I expect to engage in bondage and sexual
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activity end quote this according to the according to the Daily Camera now both parents came away from this certain that
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they had just looked into the eyes of their daughter's killer yeah two weeks after all of this weird [ __ ] Mary Willis
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recorded a phone conversation with Scott again referring to him as Joe you heard
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some of that call at the start of the show last week now on the call Mary demanded to know more about Jennifer but
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refused to play Joe snitch's game right she would not sign the sex contract or allow Scott to demonstrate how her
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daughter was killed says quote you had your chance this is what what Scott responds with you had your chance and
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then he proposed that Mary hire an escort on whom he could demonstrate the murder in front of her saying quote I'll
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show you exactly what happened and you can just be a bystander he said now Mary said she wanted a Christian burial she
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tells Joe snitch I want a Christian burial for Jennifer right and then he responds with quote your my daughter
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means every I'm sorry she says my daughter means everything to me to which Joe snitch responds quote you know what
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I saw how much she meant to you when you wouldn't let me into your hotel room and I want to apologize Captain
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because I'm kind of a little jumbled here because this guy is using so many different names you know he's Scott Lee
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Kimble he's Joe Scott he's Joe snitch uh but just keep in mind this is all the same guy so yeah it's a bunch of douches
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and one Canal Joe snitch warned Mary that he could just disappear he said his Handler at the FBI again agent schla
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would be obligated to move him to hide him or do whatever and she should keep that in mind he also said that agent
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schlaf dictated did exactly what he could say and what he was not allowed to say about the case and saying that he
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can't say much and that's that's going to what you said there where he's like I can act it out but I can't tell you
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which makes that's stupid even in a Bizarro World it makes zero sense so but we need to keep on on two points here is
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is one we have this contract like you said the sex contract and then we also have them oh
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you don't want to to role play with me let's hire escort and I'm roleplay with her
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again the the sex part is important because I believe with some of these murders they were sexually
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motivated and and we'll get into um maybe why he confesses to some crimes and why he doesn't confess to other
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crimes later right and I mean these Mary could have been in danger just for knowing what she knew or for contacting
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this man that we know to be a dangerous man but she is uncertain of that but then on top of that there's certain ones
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they meet him you you you factor in the the um psychological thought and behavior there
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that maybe once he starts acting this out at some point he can't turn back or can't stop himself and he goes all the
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way through with it right so yet somehow even after all of that Captain this story just continues to get
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weirder so in October of 2005 Scott met up with Bob and Mary uh this time is in a parking lot he's meeting with them
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again this time he's meeting with them to hand over all of Jennifer's things that he had in his possession Scott was
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accompanied by FBI agent schla and the agent had acknowledged that they lost track of Jennifer despite this Bob and
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Mary kept at it Bob had his buddy this is very smart Bob has his buddy run the plate on the truck that is being driven
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by this Joe snitch guy right it comes back of course registered to a Scott Kimble then Bob and Mary again very
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smart I applaud these people paid for a billboard to be set up outside of Shotgun Willies that's the strip club
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where Jennifer worked and they were contacted I mean what could this hurt we're going to put up this billboard
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maybe somebody reaches out to us maybe it even solves the crime who knows but what ultimately ends up happening which
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is a blessing they're contacted Bob is contacted by a newspaper so he ends up being
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interviewed not about the case but more about the billboard and in the interview Bob
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mentions very smartly that his daughter was last seen with Scott Kimble who he says in the interview and this comes out
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in the paper seems to know a lot about her disappearance this brings us to January
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of 2006 captain and for those of you keeping score at home we have clearly pointed out that Scott was committing
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fraud he was stealing lying cheating and very suspiciously he was the last person
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seen with not one not two or three but four people who have vanished by this point now Scott is looking
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for I'm guessing at this point he's probably looking for a big score something bigger than his nickel and
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dime stuff right and an opportunity presented itself when a man named cleave Armstrong decided to take a vacation now
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who is cleave he is a successful optometrist and friend of Scott kimbles Scott and his mother rented space in the
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same building where Cave's practice was located cleave goes on vacation and Scott got to work using Cave's
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financials uh Scott moved thousands of dollars he stole all these documents from C's workspace and he moves
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thousands of dollars from Cav's money market account to his checking account to C's checking account then over the
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next 3 weeks he forged nearly $555,000 worth of checks to his own companies so basically he's having
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Cave's money market account move a bunch of money to his personal checking account and then having cleave write
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checks to Scott Kimble's companies remember he had that Rocky Mountain allnatural Beef Company and the Rocky
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Mountain Cattle Company so of course cleave gets back from vacation horse he's probably selling horse meat and he
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discovers that he discovers this theft and of course he Blows the Whistle on Scott He it was pretty obvious who was
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doing this who was stealing his money when you have the checks made out to yourself it's not a long paper trail to
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get to Scott Kim I wonder how did he get this money so as a result of all of this
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now he's in hot water again what does Scott do when he's in hot water we've seen it time and time again he flees
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this time he flees to California where he shacked up with yet another girlfriend I don't know how this guy
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managed to keep Landing I don't know I don't a big beard and some women really find the beard to
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be irresistible I there's no doubt in my mind that he's a smooth talker and there's no doubt he's completely full of
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[ __ ] there's no doubt in my mind that he can look at a room full of people and
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very quickly discern who are the gullible types and who are the vulnerable types in the room so this
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woman her name is Denise Pierce now back in Lafayette finally because of this whole
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new theft thing we have a competent law man this is detective Gary Thatcher who started to look into Scott Kimbell now
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he couldn't find Scott physically but what he found was a treasure Trove of information according to the Daily
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Camera Thatcher found sheets of practice signatures bogus subpoenas regarding the
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assault case against Scots X Lori a counterfeit lean release for the jeep that he used to cash in on the insurance
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proceeds after wrecking the vehicle right so so you see what we're pointing out here there's a very good chance that
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this insurance claim in itself is fraudulent but then would you trace it back even a little bit further it's a
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counterfeit lean release on the Jeep right it doesn't appear that Scott Kimble even owned the
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Jeep now this immediately appeared to detective Thatcher that this Scott Kimble was not your average ordinary
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criminal so Thatcher sat down with Lori and she told Thatcher about all of Scott's strange behavior and then she
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told him about her daughter Casey remember she is one of our missing people right and how Scott was the last
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person who saw her before she vanished and and after some good oldfashioned snooping around Thatcher found the
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supposed stolen trailer Hidden on Scott's Old Ranch property which he had subleased out to someone
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[Music] all right we're back Cheers m8s Cheers there Captain only two people on the
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garage at a time so for reasons unknown and I'm saying that sarcastically agent schlaf was removed from Scott's case
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maybe it's just me maybe it's because he was a super gullible sucker who let this
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con artist make the FBI look like a bunch of clowns um Scott's informant status was
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revoked and a federal arrest warrant was issued for Scott Lee Kimble right for multiple parole
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violations on March 14th 2006 federal agents finally caught up with Scott Kimble they located him in California
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using cell phone tracking to pin down his location when he saw saw them coming he
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took off in his Ford F350 driving at dangerously high speeds flying through California's Coachella Valley this whole
00:31:08
Chase was broadcast on local TV and this was a lengthy car chase but finally Scott's truck ran out of gas so he is
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arrested and sentenced this time in federal court to uh he ends up getting 10 months in jail in months in a halfway
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house for violating his parole now me how much time does he get for just running from the cops like that well the
00:31:37
thing is regarding this and and I'm with you I'm on your side here this is not a big
00:31:43
punishment but what it does is it serves a bigger purpose of Simply holding Scott
00:31:49
in one place under watch until more cases could be built against him right but I would assume that it would have to
00:31:58
be years of punishment for going on a high-speed chase like that right I mean you have I I don't want to get all
00:32:07
political here go ahead so what we have here is they're trying to build possible
00:32:13
murder charges against this guy so around the same time the Colorado Bureau of Investigation they officially list Casey
00:32:26
and as a missing person right so all right so sorry to that's Scott that is Scott's stepdaughter well she she in a
00:32:36
sense would have been because he is involved with Lori Casey lived with him and Lori for a while it's not until
00:32:44
after she disappears that the two actually got married right but keep in mind Lori when her daughter goes missing
00:32:53
thinks that that her daughter's out on a drug bender and disappear and she also thinks that Scott's an
00:33:00
actual FBI agent that's what he's been telling her this whole time and I'm sure on some level she thought you know what
00:33:06
it'll be easier to find my daughter if I'm married to an FBI agent and you and I well he was also giving her tips yeah
00:33:13
pull back the curtain we know that he's not an actual FBI agent and we also know
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that he's scamming everybody uh in in every Walk of Life that that he comes into well and it's a like you were
00:33:26
saying it's kind of Perfect Storm if you meet somebody and they say that they're
00:33:30
a police officer you might assume that well here seems to be an honest individual you you tell me that you're a
00:33:38
FBI agent oh even higher just like if somebody said well I'm a youth Minister then you start assuming that they have a
00:33:48
a certain set of moral standards and moral character that's not always the case right and I'm sorry to keep jumping
00:33:57
around Captain but there are a lot of families involved in this growing case and
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unfortunately there's a lot of victims as we are now seeing well just don't hit your head but what will happen is
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eventually two of the fathers of the missing will join forces so we have remember the newspaper article that we
00:34:19
discussed about the billboard this is scene by Rob McLoud the father of missing young woman Casey the the
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former you know daughter of his girlfriend or would have been stepdaughter for Scott Kimbell Now by
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this time he knows that Scott is believed to be the last person to see or to be with Casey
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his daughter yeah and he also knows that Scott's phone had been turned off for a
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long period of time and of course this is right around the time that Casey vanished so the Two
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Dads together with Lori they did some snooping and Lori mentions Scott's Uncle Terry he's missing too or at least he he
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was there one day and he's no longer there so Rob and Bob went to the FBI's Denver office this in October of 2006
00:35:20
and they're really kind of trying to lay out all of their suspicions for the FBI
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there and the FBI signed special agent Jonathan grusing to investigate the missing person's cases surrounding Scott
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Kimbell so we have Jennifer Casey and Terry that they are aware of at this time it took the Two Dads putting the
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puzzle together for the FBI to get a clue as to what was going on with their one-time informant Scott kemell right
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now back to detective Gary Thatcher he's the one investigating Scott on the the theft of the
00:35:58
$55,000 from the optometrist he was shocked when he learned that Scott Kimbell was in fact
00:36:05
at one time an FBI informat so then he teams up with the now special agent who's in charge of looking into these
00:36:13
missing persons cases so now here here's what we got going on for those of you keeping score at home we got two of the
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families have teamed up and they're like this dude is suspicious he's probably involved in the missing person's case of
00:36:28
our loved one and now we have a very competent a very good hardworking detective investigating Scott Kimble for
00:36:36
theft charges and whatever else he might be involved in and we have a competent FBI agent who's looking at Scott for
00:36:44
actual missing persons cases because he's duping so many people and lying to everyone and he's fairly decent at
00:36:52
covering his tracks or at least at leaving the area it really truly takes some people to
00:36:59
team up together to really piece this story together and figure out what this guy might be guilty of right but now we
00:37:06
have these detectives that are involved trying to like you said piece together all these puzzle pieces so they can get
00:37:13
some serious charges against this individual we have several women that he's the last known person to be with
00:37:21
them and now we have the FBI going well we got a little bit of egg on our face because he was one of our informants mhm
00:37:29
big stinky egg big stinky egg uh all over our face and now we're going to work with these
00:37:37
detectives again to try to put together those pieces so we can charge them with some serious stuff yeah and one one
00:37:45
comment that I found to be very interesting in regards to these inspectors that they would say years
00:37:53
later they're like you know at that time as soon as we came to together with all
00:37:57
this information we knew immediately that the number of missing persons surrounding this one man were just to
00:38:04
coincidental and they believe that they were probably looking at a series of murders you know saying that in the
00:38:10
light of Casey McLoud Jennifer markham's disappearance and don't forget Terry Kimble Uncle Terry's disappearance right
00:38:18
they are now starting to suspect that Scott wasn't just this con artist or Thief he's very likely a serious killer
00:38:27
right so the investigators started the process and worked doggedly to put their case together they were assisted by two
00:38:36
Boulder County Prosecutors this is cathina booth and Amy aobo who were eager to lock up Scott and throw away
00:38:45
the key both were convinced that Scott was guilty of a lot of evil Deeds now Amy told the Daily Camera quote it
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couldn't be a coincidence there were too many people missing that he was last known to be with the two women started
00:39:00
looking into Scott's criminal history to see where they could possibly rearrest him on old charges basically to keep him
00:39:10
in jail while they continued to build some type of murder case against him right so Boulder County issued a warrant
00:39:17
for Scott's arrest on suspicion of theft forgery and false reporting for the optometrist cleave Armstrong's case and
00:39:26
then in the meantime Scott's suspended sentence in the 2001 Montana theft and Escape case was revoked and he was
00:39:36
ordered to serve his remaining time this is nearly two years behind bars right the team bought themselves some more
00:39:43
time basically the lady prosecutors were such a thorn in Scott's side that he complained about them in recorded
00:39:53
Jailhouse conversations always referring to them as the boulder [ __ ] so good for them though I feel
00:40:02
like that should be a really good softball team like like they've won 18 championships in a row yeah Boulder
00:40:11
[ __ ] so now they are like they're very strongly looking not just at Scott Kimble as the man they're looking into
00:40:18
everywhere that he had been and now we got to look at everyone he may have come into contact with during this time
00:40:26
well not only that but you see time and time again whether it's in print or a documentary about this guy people saying
00:40:37
when you have at least four people missing that are connected to this individual and he's constantly lying
00:40:46
about everything you have to start then going back to did he live in your town and is there somebody missing that
00:40:54
possibly was connected to him well and and it makes it difficult because he's lived under so many different names yeah
00:41:01
you know was he going by Joe snitch or the captain or the colonel hey you leave me out of this I'm trying to have some
00:41:10
fun this is the one time this week that I get to leave my house so when they're looking into all of the places that he's
00:41:18
been and people he's come and contact with this is when they're going to figure out that um he's owned some guns
00:41:26
during this time and remember he's prohibited from owning Firearms having them in his possession per terms of his
00:41:33
federal probation so prosecutors jumped at this chance to pile on more charges against Scott right so he was indicted
00:41:44
in federal court in Denver on a charge of a felon in possession of a firearm and then in June of 2007 do you
00:41:53
know how many years he got for that I don't don't know um and and I may have come across that but I started to the
00:42:01
notes got really lengthy on this guy with all the different court dates and different charges that they brought
00:42:09
against him I mean we're talking about and all the victims since this guy became an adult they're bringing charges
00:42:14
against this guy and yeah and and more importantly all the victims but um I would imagine that doesn't seem like it
00:42:22
should be a light charge to me it varies from State to State uh this was Federal
00:42:29
Court though um anyway it this is this is just lengthening the amount of time he is going to have to be behind bars
00:42:37
and build this case against him so now we have detective Thatcher and agent uh grusing the FBI agent and the police
00:42:48
detective they sit down for a 6-hour interview with Scott Kimble this is at the Cascade County Detention Facility
00:42:58
the investigators asked Scott about the disappearances of Jennifer Markham of Casey McLoud and Terry Kimble his
00:43:07
uncle Scott somewhat to the surprise of the two detectives offered to provide information about Jennifer and his uncle
00:43:19
if given immunity for his white collar crimes now Scott also told them that Casey was still
00:43:27
alive Scott danced around providing actual details saying instead I can't incriminate myself any further now in a
00:43:36
later interview he said that Casey had ODed somewhere in a national forest in Colorado and that he had seen her fall
00:43:46
into the fire while high on meth causing her death yeah don't buy it at all detectives continue to interview
00:43:57
everyone who had come in contact with Scott this led them to Steve Enis Jennifer's boyfriend who was still in
00:44:03
federal prison as they talked he told them about how he had trusted Scott to take care of Jennifer on the outside he
00:44:12
denied the existence of the murder for higher plot and he believed that Scott was responsible for Jennifer's
00:44:18
disappearance but then Steve Dropped a Bomb he said he knew another guy who experienced almost the exact same
00:44:29
thing and he gave the detectives the name of stepen Holly now Steph Holly you may recall was the one dating Leanne
00:44:39
Emery somebody that we haven't talked about at all yet in this in this episode we talked about her briefly last week
00:44:46
now Stephen just like the other inmate stepen uh Enis also put his trust into Scott while they were in prison together
00:44:55
this 2002 remember he told his girlfriend Leanne to trust Scott Scott was pretending that he was going to help
00:45:05
Steven escape from prison and that he was going to help get his girlfriend to him in Mexico once
00:45:12
Steven had escaped but once Scott gets out of prison it appears that he seduced Leanne
00:45:21
because the two went on the multi-state cheze overdraft spree and then Leanne magically
00:45:29
disappears The it's questionable if he seduced her or if he got in contact with her and and just stole the information
00:45:37
well she's very young I mean he could he could have said look I'm going to going
00:45:41
to kill you I'm going to kill your family if you don't cooperate so this is where they're like wait we we have a
00:45:47
possible another another victim here so they contact Leanne's father his name's Howard yeah but let's just be clear we
00:45:54
got three possible missing women connected to Scott and then a male his uncle right that's the count so far
00:46:05
right which his his uncle story is a little less nefarious in the sense that it doesn't seem to be obvious that this
00:46:13
guy was missing remember he came up with the story of of uncle hit the yeah won the lottery and went to Mexico it I
00:46:21
would guess for detectives that it's only once they mention Uncle Terry's name to Scott in this interview that he
00:46:28
says oh I can probably help you on that case that they're they're now going wait
00:46:32
a second there's probably something here well the look when you say he won the lottery where did he win the lottery
00:46:40
Ohio good State they look up the records the state of Ohio never paid out Terry never paid out Scott's Uncle so he
00:46:50
didn't win and they were able to find that out pretty quickly so they know that that story is
00:46:57
[ __ ] so when they contact this Leanne emer's father Howard the first thing he says to the FBI he like I've
00:47:05
been trying to get the FBI's attention on this for years I I've told them that someone using the name Hannibal was
00:47:14
responsible for The Disappearance of my daughter so then this is when we have Steven Holly he confirmed for detectives
00:47:22
what they are now suspecting that Hannibal was yet just another Alias for Scott Kimble right furthermore stepen
00:47:30
Holly told investigators that Hannibal asked him that once Holly escaped from prison
00:47:36
to this is this is just bizarre man he he says that Scott Kimble using the name of Hannibal asked this other inmate once
00:47:45
I help you escape from prison and you're out I want you to torture and kill my second wife who is also the mother of
00:47:55
Scots two boys right but when you do this I want her to know that I was the one that sent you to kill her right
00:48:08
so the evidence Captain is obviously piling up against Scott Kimble and pointing out that he probably killed
00:48:17
multiple people detectives dug in and looked into every aspect of his life in addition to interviews with people
00:48:26
detectives gathered the following pieces of evidence this is a uh starts off with a
00:48:34
search of Scott's Toshiba laptop computer right which revealed the following a search of the term Jennifer
00:48:45
Markham missing they also found pictures of various women including Leanne Emery uh this picture of Leanne Emery is
00:48:54
dated just a 11 days before she disappeared they found 291 graphic images and their statement says
00:49:03
depicting women clothed and unclothed being assaulted forced into violent sexual activities or raped bound and
00:49:12
gagged um possibly some pictures of women posing as being dead and then some of them threatened at gunpoint or knife
00:49:23
point the search also discovered that Scott had visited online rape video sites using the moniker beef man
00:49:34
1996 a search of Scott's former Adams County Home investigators found blood stains in the living room carpet and
00:49:43
carpet pad and floorboards so they cut out all these samples and they're taking them
00:49:50
collecting them and they sent them to the FBI lab for analysis one it's good thing saying that the two fathers got
00:49:58
together and started trying to put together the pieces of this puzzle but now we don't just have here say
00:50:05
or this guy went by Hannibal or somebody just say you know he said she said stuff
00:50:12
we actually have now physical evidence against Scott Kimbell yeah and so they're looking at Scott's cell phone
00:50:19
records and you talked about suspicions and what what people are relaying to law
00:50:23
enforcement but we're going to get a confirmation right here because as soon as they look at his cell phone records
00:50:29
They saw that yes in fact his phone did go offline from 8:15 p.m. on August 23rd
00:50:37
2003 all the way through 4:38 p.m. on August 24th 2003 now it's during this two this 20 hour period that Casey
00:50:49
McLoud vanished right and and Scott according to his statements he was alone in the mountains which we know is not a
00:50:58
great Alibi right so when the phone comes back online it pinged a tower near Walden Colorado in a search of some
00:51:08
boxes of old documents and receipts of Scotts law enforcement discovered a receipt from North Park supers grocery
00:51:16
store in Walden Colorado the receipt was for $17.95 showing that Scott purchased
00:51:24
pasta meat spaghetti sauce and lighter fluid okay so this is at the same time well he wanted to make his sauce a
00:51:35
little spicy this is at the same time when Casey McLoud disappeared but also was supposedly picked up for work to go
00:51:43
to work by Scott and remember we know she never shows up for work at Subway that day right and fact there's no
00:51:50
record of anyone having seen her ever again after this and again Scott claims he was hunting alone in the mountains
00:51:58
that day and Walden is in the mountains sounds more like Scott was up there hunting for somewhere to dispose of
00:52:04
Casey's body and hunting for something to burn it with right and not to mention that before he was telling her mother
00:52:13
Casey's mother hey the neighbor saw her and and you know I picked her up and and
00:52:21
all these little lies and they come to find out that those aren't true either mhm yeah and remember the strange
00:52:28
statement from Scott where he told police in an interview that he said Casey OED on meth and died in a national
00:52:36
forest well Walden is surrounded by a national forest in a later search of the trailer
00:52:45
the the supposed stolen trailer Hidden by Scott investigators found Casey's Subway hat along with with that they
00:52:55
found a black bag containing six zip ties two rolls of electric tape and a pair of women's
00:53:03
shoes now agent grusing called over to the authorities in Walden and they found out that a skull in skeleton likely
00:53:12
belonging to a young female was discovered by a hunter 6 months earlier in a remote area Southwest of
00:53:21
town after DNA testing it was confirmed that these were the remains of Casey McLoud unfortunately there was no way to
00:53:31
tell the cause or manner of her death yeah but at least you have a body and we know that it's harder to prosecute a
00:53:38
murder case without a body and it's not terribly far off from where you know or believe Scott was and it's not terribly
00:53:48
far off from what his Alibi was I'm alone in the mountains this is in the mountains right so it's looking very bad
00:53:55
for Scott now investigators they also spoke with an inmate who knew Scott this inmate has not been named publicly but
00:54:04
this inmate told them that Scott said he had strangled Casey with a dog collar and smashed her head in with a rock this
00:54:13
because she was a witness against the leader of a powerful drug gang but again Casey's cause of death could not be
00:54:20
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