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Jennifer Dulos /// Part 2 /// 379

November 16, 2023 / 54:19

This episode covers the case of Jennifer Dulos, including the investigation into her disappearance, the involvement of Fotus Dulos, and the legal proceedings surrounding the case.

Hosts Nick and the Captain discuss the peculiar behavior of Fotus Dulos, who was seen cleaning a vehicle and disposing of evidence related to Jennifer's disappearance. They highlight the DNA evidence found in his vehicle and the timeline of events leading up to her reported murder.

The episode details the involvement of Fotus's associates, including Michelle Troconis and Kent Maheni, who provided conflicting alibis and were implicated in the cover-up of Jennifer's murder. The hosts analyze the legal strategies employed by Fotus's attorney and the implications of the evidence collected by law enforcement.

As the investigation unfolds, the hosts discuss the challenges faced by prosecutors in building a case without a body and the emotional impact on Jennifer's family. They also cover Fotus's eventual arrest and the circumstances surrounding his death.

The episode concludes with reflections on the unresolved questions regarding Jennifer's whereabouts and the ongoing search for justice.

TLDR

The episode examines the disappearance of Jennifer Dulos, the investigation, and the involvement of Fotus Dulos and his associates.

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talk some true crime [Music] [Music] Captain remember our buddy GUI the owner of the Toyota Tacoma that we were
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talking about on yesterday's show yeah the guy that worked for fuus that's right he also told investigators that
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fotus took his Tacoma and had the interior professionally washed and detailed this was just another unusual
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activity this was something that fotus had never done anything like this before in the past regardless of how many times
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he drove this other man's vehicle yeah but also think about this you probably worked with this guy for a while or
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worked for this guy for a while you know his family you know his strange wife you
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know his kids and he's doing these weird activities and you know that he was driving your truck
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around this this puts you in a very awkward and horrifying situation well and he tells him to throw out the seats
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in your truck and replace them with the seats from my Porsche MH that's those aren't cheap seats you know and that's
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just all kinds of odd behavior so investigators They seized the Tacoma and they found a blood-like substance
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containing the DNA of Jennifer doues let's talk about some additional searches because as we noted yesterday
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there's a lot of evidence and a lot of video footage and a lot of things coming into play here mhm there was a search
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and seizure and arrest warrants that were continually updated as this investigation progressed these
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have been released to the public and it allows us to follow the progression of the case early on the affidavit States
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after processing the scene at 69 Wells Lane and analyzing the evidence thus far it is strongly believed that Jennifer
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was attacked in her garage and then placed in the rear of her own 2017 Chevy Suburban and driven to where the vehicle
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was later discovered mhm by June 6th the affidavit was amended to include language that
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demonstrated authorities concern for Jennifer based upon the crime scene processing they note investigators came
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to the consensus that a serious physical assault had occurred at the scene and Jennifer douis was the suspected victim
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and and on June 9th an accomplice or accomplice are now noted in this affidavit they're suspected police state
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we have strong belief that the victim Jennifer doues is deceased following a serious physical assault which occurred
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May 24th at approximately 8:30 a.m. evidence has been located which indicates that the
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perpetrators plural took part in cleanup of the crime scene and took additional steps to prevent the crime from being
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detected and cloak their identities to law enforcement it is highly likely that multiple individuals were involved in
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the crime which we have some evidence that getting rid of some evidence his girlfriend was involved but it makes you
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wonder how what was the involvement of this employee he had well it seems to me like there is involvement by the
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employee but the employee doesn't know that he's helping cover up a crime that that fotus is the Puppet Master here and
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he's getting his employee to just do do these things at his request now let's talk briefly about what a SLE bucket
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photus criminal lawyer is again his name is Norm pattis this guy is pretty much the worst of the worst there is no
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camera that he does not love and he is unashamed about lying and stretching the truth all in the name of quote
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defending his client there are just too many examples of this indecent Behavior which is easy to find online and in the
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papers but the short of it is he has lied in regards to this very investigation to the media and basically
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when presented with clear evidence of fotus involvement in this whole mess he has stated that we are not worried about
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that evidence at the end of the day this man is an officer of the court and things like telling a radio show that
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Michelle tronus passed a lie detector test when Michelle never took one according to State's Attorney Richard
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KGO and claiming that his client had an ironclad Alibi that Michelle was with him all morning as we know this is not
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true is just simply wrong and there's much more as Guerilla Monsoon would say he's a weasel M I'm sure he'll get
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several clients from having his name in the papers and his face in front of the camera but his actions are just low down
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now in response to all of these absurd and even false statements and allegations made by this attorney by
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pattis a Stanford Superior Court judge took the rare step of granting the State's Attorney's request for a gag
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order in the case this was in September of 2019 now let's shift gears here and talk
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about another attorney remember we talked about Kent maleni or malwani we might want to call him Moen after we get
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through with this part of our show sck with the weeny fotus doues this is his civil lawyer and his friend this is his
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business attorney we don't want to confuse the criminal attorney and the business attorney these are two separate
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people his name is on The Alibi script as having a meeting with fotus that morning remember that's part of his
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Ironclad Alibi right that we know is false police interviewed him on two occasions he Kent initially told them
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that he did not have a scheduled meeting with fotus on the 24th but then later said that he did he was at the house he
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says that morning arriving at 7:40 and leaving at 8:30 phone records confirm this which is
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a little confusing to me but it sounds like there's evidence that he was at least at the house during that time
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period he said he never saw fotus that day maleni was caught in multiple lies to investigators about phone calls and
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meetings with fotus and if he saw Michelle at all that day I'm very confused so he goes to
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fotus his house for a meeting but he doesn't actually see voted that day well that's that's the tricky part of
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this we have three people changing their stories as we go okay now what we can do
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to back this up is it appears once they alter their story if we are to believe Michelle's Second Story that fotus
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probably left some time around 8:30 what we should point out here is this attorney
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Kent leaves according to his phone records leaves this house at 8:30 as well so there may have been some type of
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meeting but fotus is not where he says he was to be during this time frame during the commission of this crime and
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his two Alibis are quickly crumbling this being Michelle and Kent so not only that the investigators
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know that malen lied to them uh in regards to phone calls and if he in fact saw Michelle that
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day so in response to this Moen tells police that he suffered a concussion from falling down a set of stairs on the
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25th this is very convenient right mhm and during the the fall and he went to the doctors for this and got medication
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and was treated I I seriously doubt that um I I could find nothing backing up this story
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well we'll just assume that the weenie didn't fall right but that's not the end of his claims his claim is that he fell
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down the steps suffered a concussion and during the course of the Fall smashed his phone so he had to replace it so
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when they are in the prime of their investigation they can't get a phone from this dude and also now he's saying
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he doesn't recall any of the details about what was going on or about conversations or meetings with fotus
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because I fell down the steps and I bumped my head the penis or the wiener bumped its head we talked about uh the
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arrest in the charges against both fotus and Michelle uh fotus was released on bond 10 days after his June 1st arrest
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as was Michelle they both plad not guilty to all of the charges but in July fotus gave an exclusive televised
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interview to NBC News he did decline to to discuss what happened to Jennifer although he said he was innocent and was
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very worried about her he said he had faith in the system and quote hopefully we will have some answers soon end quote
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he said that when she disappeared he and Jennifer had been in a good place and were discussing entering mediation he
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appeared on Dat line in September saying that he believed Jennifer was still alive
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in August of 2019 Michelle tronus submitted to another interview with investigators she must have known the
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walls were closing in on her because she started to give more and more information she admitted she had not
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been truthful in the previous interviews she never saw fotus on the morning of the 24th at all when she woke up at 6:40
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she says he was gone the part she had mentioned in an earlier interview about fotus being in a meeting with Kent Moen
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at his house at 8:15 simply was not true fotus was not there apparently it was just Moen sitting there all by himself
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fotus is phone was sitting on the table when she was talking with Kent she said it rang and the caller was fotus his
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friend from Greece remember this is part of his quote unquote Ironclad alibi suggested that she answer the phone and
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she says she did it was a very short call records confirmed this it was a 17c call this is why we're going to
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see incoming activity to fotus his phone but no outgoing activity on his phone at
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this time right fotus came home for a quick lunch sometime between noon and 1:30 the two then went to 80 Mountain
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Spring Road to clean the place she brought with her per photus instruction Windex Clorox a vacuum a broom paper
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towels a bucket a sponge garbage bags and disposable gloves she said she then witnessed photus cleaning something he
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said was spilled coffee this was out of the Tacoma out of that truck at one point fotus handed her a paper towel and
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told her to put it in the trash she said the paper towel had a dark stain on on it that did not smell or look like
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coffee she said she placed it in one of the black trash bags I'm glad she's sniffing this this paper towel both
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fotus and Michelle were arrested a second time on additional charges of hindering prosecution and tampering with
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evidence again both released on bond with a future court date set do you know what their bond was on those charges uh
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this this is where we start to see a bit of a shift and maybe if you want to pile
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on to the potential motive here I believe that their bond for both of them was set at
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$50,000 which is pretty high for those charges yeah but I I I mean the judge can set them at what he or she wants to
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right within reason I'm guessing because these are people of means that maybe you set them
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a little higher but from my understanding it sounds like fotus was able to to make bail and to get out but had trouble
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he couldn't just pull this money out of his own personal account it seems like he's having some money problems as well
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that that we didn't know about until he's unable to pay this by himself without a
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body prosecutors are are often as we've seen so many times hesitant to bring murder charges yeah you know they've
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been charged with a lot of different things no one's been charged with murder yet
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and I know it's a large Park but it just seems like the amount of resources that they
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could have used to try to find her in that park it doesn't seem like they zoomed all those they used divers
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helicopters dogs Troopers it's a large area like you said which makes it difficult like 300 acres you said 300
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acres what I've been told by some locals is and of course these are these are not
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experts by any means but these this is just regular they know the area they know the area very well they live
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they've been to the park and live in the area they've all kind of told me it's not really the ideal place to hide a
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body what that mean it's like we said there are some wooded areas but this is a city park more open well it's a city
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park and it's also a well trafficked Park okay yeah where the so I guess what they're suggesting is that they believe
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somebody would have seen something or suspected something if that were to be the case now as you point out it's a
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large area unfortunately I I hate to say these words but Jennifer's Body very likely could be there somewhere right so
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it's it's very interesting because we know that the murderer is using this park as at least a drop off um spot for
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the vehicle yeah but so there somewhere else possibly you you think that yes and I
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tell you why because we don't know where fotus was for the entirety of this time
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that he's missing because mind you we can't track his phone it's left he purposely left it at the house right and
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what we're learning as this investigation goes along through the search warrants and the wording that
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changes in these search warrants and the arrest warrants the investigators are learning
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stuff as they go with their investigation as well right they initially believed that fotus did this and the
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body was removed with the the Suburban we're later learning what we just kind of went through here they found
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Jennifer's DNA in the Tacoma as well right so is there some thought that somehow the body was transferred from
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the Suburban and then eventually into the Tacoma and the body was placed elsewhere and the Suburban being dumped
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and abandoned in the park is just to throw investigators off all they're going to find there is the Suburban well
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not to try to give somebody a pat on the back but one to leave the cell phone at
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home now you have no way to track that at all no way to track the movements like you said if maybe it's just a drop
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off spot but the fact that it's a drop off spot connected to 300 AC acers you can start assuming this is even though
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people in the area are saying this is probably not the best place to uh dump a body but you got to check the 300 acres
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yeah it's difficult and here's the thing too we're talking about a highly educated man I'm I'm not going to go as
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far to say that he's smart or intelligent but we do know from his track record that he went to some very
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prestigious universities and has degrees from them right this is a highly educated man and again the wording in
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the search warrants and affidavit arrest warrants and so on and so forth changes
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throughout the course of this investigation and at the later point of the investigation it includes we now
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have reason or evidence to believe that this was planned in advance so we have a
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highly educated man with multiple vehicles and maybe one or two or several people helping him and he's planned some
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of this out in advance so it that's where it gets tricky for investigators as as as much effort and as much work as
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they did and man they've collected a ton of evidence in this case you don't have
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a body so it's hard to prosecute exactly but what we are going to have happen Captain is fotus doues is arrested this
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year January 7th of this year arrested on five counts including felony murder murder kidnapping tampering with
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evidence and hindering prosecution yeah so he's charged with all the whole kid kabo that's right you get everything
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right there the whole you get everything the whole murder charges bouet M prosecutors felt that they had
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sufficient evidence to prove that fotus kidnapped and killed Jennifer so what sealed the deal for prosecutors to
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decide they now had enough to nail photus for murder despite the fact that Jennifer has never been found well we
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took an in-depth look at the arrest warrant looking for the new info and what we found is this it says Not only
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was photos's DNA found in the smear of Jennifer's blood in the kitchen sink faucet but it was also found on the door
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knob to the mudro inside the home and the garage door the video footage of the Albany Avenue drops included
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video of photus removing from the truck a rolled up object resembling the WeatherTech Liner missing from the
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Suburban mhm he leaned it apparently he leaned it up against a restaurant wall like so he doesn't place this in a trash
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receptacle he just walks up to a building and just kind of lays it there yeah panicked this as we said yesterday
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has never been found or if it has the police are not saying so so video footage also showed an unidentified man
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rooting through one of the trash bins and removing a bag containing a light colored piece of material with a what
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appears to be a large blood stain on it okay this object appeared consistent with two striped camping pillows that
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the nanny told police were missing from the garage according to the Hartford Current
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the man who took the fabric out of the trash was later identified as a homeless man known in the Albany area as George
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State Police questioned him and he told them that he had not taken the bloody pillow he found in the
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trash so he's he's now telling them look I found a bloody pillow in the trash you
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saw me rooting through the trash I didn't take that with me but what I did take was a large knife that that I found
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wrapped inside of this pillow wow he says that in his opinion the pillow had at least a quart of blood on it and he
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said it looked to him whoever got hurt got hurt real bad he said he wiped the blood on his pants and took the knife
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with him this is all seen on the video W he described the knife as a hunting or fishing knife now unfortunately police
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were never able to locate this knife this is because George traded it to a drug dealer he said was named fudge for
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a $5 Rock of crack police tracked down this fudge and were disappointed to learn that he said that he sold the
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knife for $10 and did not recall the name of the person who bought it fudge described the knife as a larger knife
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with a folding blade right but that's because he didn't have a cool name like fudge right right uh but nonetheless
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these two individuals uh are cooperating with the police so we got to give them some
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credit there bloody items taken from the trash bins included four bloody zip ties
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bloody clothing that had been cut which was a a shirt and a bra two clear ponchos gloves a mop handle a towel and
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a kitchen sponge one of the gloves had fotus DNA on the inside mind you this is all evidence that they've collected that
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they're testing and they are upgrading the wording to these documents as they're going along yeah the four zip
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ties recovered two of them were stained with Jennifer's blood her DNA was found on them so well again there's a lot of
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police departments or a lot of detectives that would stop at you know step one step two step three we have a
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lot that kind of point points to fotus we have a lot that points to him having possibly help but they didn't stop there
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because they know it's a uphill battle without that without her body being found well and just like what we talked
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about on this weeks off the Record you know we talked about a case where a man was tried and acquitted and then you fa
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the double jeopardy rule you can no longer you didn't build a very good case against him you got an aquid and now you
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cannot charge him with that murder again you do not want this to happen in this situation what you have on the surface
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here again is a well-educated man that appears that he might have money or means to get money and he's got a real
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SLE ball attorney that's going to just call into question everything so you got to build a really good case because of
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the zip ties and some of these other items that were found containing Jennifer's DNA and blood what the arrest
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warrant concludes is that it is reasonable that Jennifer dules was was alive at the time that the zip ties were
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attached to restrain her movements and prevent her Escape but whatever took place she did not survive the attack the
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Clincher was that fingerprints from fotus were found on some of the garbage bags and both his DNA and Michelle
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tronus were found as well and the arrest warrant spells it out residential surveillance footage
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from new Canan on the morning of May 24th shows a man dressed in a hoodie and dark
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clothes riding a distinctive bike keyword distinctive going in the direction of 69 Wells Lane where the
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attack occurred fotus had a vintage french missere I'm trying to throw a little French in there
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part of my French bicycle we we that he brought with him to the United States this is both confirmed by Michelle and
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Guy meanie this bike is missing from the Jefferson Crossing house what a douche when the police searched it on June 3rd
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now remember a bicycle wheel is visible in the bed of the Tacoma truck when it was driving on the highway this is
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picked up by surveillance footage so apparently a logo from a French made mere bike and I'm going to
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get laughed laughed out of the garage if I'm saying that wrong we was found in the trash along Albany Avenue where
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fotus had been seen throwing things away the rest of the bike again never been located as far as we know so the arrest
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warrant also spells out all of the evidence investigators have that Jennifer is no longer alive there has
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been no activity on her financial accounts or phones since she went missing she has not been in contact with
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her family there have been no hits on namus she was eventually applied to namus nothing has been found in multiple
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searches for her it states matter of factly that the whereabouts of Jennifer doues is unknown the Connecticut medical
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examiner reviewed all of the evidence and according to the arrest warrant he was prepared to state that Jennifer
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doues had sustained an injury or multiple injuries which he would consider nons survivable Dr Gil
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it's pretty obvious as we've been going through this so far that there are some obvious
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motives here on Photo photus part we're talking simple Vengeance maybe child custody Revenge custody we have you have
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five children so that's a lot of money and child support we might have depending on and and this could very
00:33:23
well be the case spousal support because she was wasn't working as much because she was taking care of the
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children and and we know that basically he's at fault so I don't know the laws in that in that state and if it's a at
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fault state but if it's at fault state he could be paying through the teeth well if those two items those
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three items are your motive entree here's a great appetizer leading up to that what we find out is
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that fotus his company the way he's running it is almost a borrow from Paul to pay Peter
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situation her parents Jennifer's parents are filthy rich and he's borrowing money
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from them this is his MMO I'll borrow money from them build the place and then when I sell it I will pay them back for
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the loan plus a little interest he's fallen way behind on repayments to banks repayments for loans and repayments to
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her family without getting too far into it we're talking millions of dollars now remember Kent I actually
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believe his name is mahen is probably how you pronounce it but we've en enjoyed Moen remember
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Kent Moen I fell down the stairs and I broke my head in my phone guy business lawyer and fake Alibi douchebag guy yeah
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he's going to be very upset set when he hears this episode well we don't have to
00:35:00
worry about him the cops went after him and Kent is a loose cannon when they went after him he did not surrender he
00:35:11
was arrested at gunpoint after trying to evade state troopers he is charged with
00:35:17
conspiracy to commit murder we were hinting around that maybe more than one possible person was involved here which
00:35:25
we all believe to be Michelle let's take it a step further Kent Moen might have been involved as well now this next part
00:35:32
of the story sounds like a Dick Wolf Law and Order episode This is complicated but please just grab another beer
00:35:40
because I promise you this will all come together in a bit dick and weenie so detectives
00:35:47
lawyers they spoke with members of The Windsor Connecticut Rod and Gun Club this club is on 25 acres of land and has
00:35:59
only 42 members which about half of them are active two of the members that they
00:36:05
spoke with related that on May 18th 2019 they had stumbled upon a hole dug in the
00:36:14
woods on the club grounds it was obscured by a barbecue style grats covering this hole and also
00:36:24
leaves and sticks and such the hole was 2 ft wide 6 ft long and 3 ft deep the hole inside the hole was a blue tarp and
00:36:35
two sacks of lime the men described the hole as 100% a human grave the two men moved on and when they returned in early
00:36:47
June the hole had been filled in one of them reported it to police and it was determined that Kent moeni was also a
00:36:56
member of this club police found the hole but cadav dogs failed to hit on anything and the lime in the tarp had
00:37:05
been removed okay so the evidence of conspiracy here seems pretty thin but there is more for one thing it seems
00:37:16
pretty clear that investigators believe that fotus must have had some help in getting rid of Jennifer the timeline is
00:37:24
just too tight for him to have hit didn't her so well all on his own but then it emerged that Kent moeni also has
00:37:33
an estranged wife one that he was arrested for raping in January of 2019 oh my God and then he was arrested
00:37:43
again for violating a protective order issued to her the two were in the midst of a contentious divorce this in May of
00:37:54
2019 so here's here's where the story really goes off the rails Kent's a strange wife who is not
00:38:03
named publicly claims that fotus duus who she knew only as an acquaintance started calling her and leaving her
00:38:12
voicemails in May of 2019 trying to get her to come to his house to patch things
00:38:19
up with Kent he left her repeated voicemails and she felt uncomfortable by the multiple
00:38:26
invit to come to his home since she barely knew him she did finally agree to meet him at a at a public place this is
00:38:35
Max's Oyster Bar in West Hartford but when she told him she refused to meet with Kent fotus left this meeting Kent's
00:38:45
wife went on to tell police that she believes that fotus and Kent had some sort of pack to get rid of
00:38:53
their wives she said she thinks f is indebted to Kent for some reason and was possibly working on Kent's behalf to
00:39:04
harm her she called police on April 15th 2019 when she looked out her window of her home and saw a suspicious man
00:39:14
carrying a gas can and a crowbar the police incident report said there appeared to be an attempted forced
00:39:22
entry at the side door next to the garage and marks on the door casing were consistent with the pry bar that the
00:39:30
suspect was carrying it's possible that Kent M had dug the grave at the Rod and Gun Club for his estranged wife but when
00:39:42
the genifer douas case blew up he aborted his plan to kill her right because now he's under investigation and
00:39:49
he's under a magnifying glass by the law enforcement but as they say captain this
00:39:55
is what's always so weird truth is Stranger Than Fiction this sounds like a movie this sounds like two evil dudes
00:40:04
getting together plotting how to get rid of their wives MH now we we are kind of
00:40:11
left with regardless of how much evidence we have and there is a ton of it we're still left with we don't know
00:40:19
what happened to Jennifer Jennifer's Body we do know based off of the evidence and based off of timelines and
00:40:28
surveillance footage and so on and so forth that fotus arrived in waveny park in the sub in the Suburban at
00:40:39
10:38 this was a 99-minute drive from the wells Lane house from there the timeline gets a
00:40:48
little wonky because we know that fotus left the area at 1109 or at least Jennifer's phone went off Network at
00:40:56
that time and by 11:12 he was on the Meritt Parkway going northbound so what did he do in Wy park for half an
00:41:06
hour that's where I think this story could could fork and go one of two ways it's possible M that he disposed of the
00:41:16
body somewhere in the park that like we've already discussed and it's just not been
00:41:22
located it's also possible that he transferred Jennifer to the to to Tacoma along with maybe the bike and some other
00:41:32
materials used to commit the crime or cover up the crime truth is and sadly we we just don't know where she is yeah
00:41:42
which you know mother of five you know it really sucks I mean tears their world apart well and as we said earlier fotus
00:41:52
was eventually arrested in charge with the murder even though we don't have the body now a little cleanup here Captain
00:42:00
it looks like he was released on a $6 million bond this on January 9th of this year he had to pay
00:42:10
$420,000 to get out per this situation he was to remain on house arrest but was initially permitted to leave the home
00:42:21
this for just a few specific reasons one to attend business meetings to attend church or Court appearances and he was
00:42:30
also allowed to go to the grocery store an ankle bracelet monitored his activities this lasted just about two
00:42:40
weeks when fotus violated the conditions of the house arrest on January 22nd this is when he dismantled a
00:42:49
makeshift Memorial to Jennifer that had been set up at the entrance to the Jefferson Crossing development mhm his
00:42:57
attorney SLE bucket Norm pattis argued that this Memorial to Jennifer had been placed there to taunt fotus he's like
00:43:07
giving him permission to to break the law and then go destroy this Memorial that's set up for this missing woman
00:43:16
Stanford Superior Court Judge Gary White admonished fotus for being quote stupid and removed the condition of the
00:43:25
house arrest that would permit fotus to leave the house for business purposes or
00:43:31
to go to church and such so now he's on official house arrest you cannot leave the
00:43:37
home than for screwing up yeah his next scheduled court date was set for February 28th
00:43:45
2020 he would not make it that long it's now clear to all that despite the public
00:43:53
veneer photus displayed of confidence and and calm and quite really quite the opposite was true fotus world was
00:44:02
unraveling before his eyes his attempts to gain custody of his children which he
00:44:08
commenced within 4 days of Jennifer going missing had failed fotus formidable mother-in-law Gloria Farber
00:44:17
also petitioned the court for custody and hired security guards who kept photus from seeing the kids in repeated
00:44:24
attempted visits she was awarded custody way back in July of 2019 mhm and fotus was slapped with a restraining order
00:44:33
requiring that he not have any contact with his own children not have any contact with the Mother-in-law or the
00:44:40
nanny he was also not permitted to have any contact with Michelle the girlfriend his business was going belly
00:44:48
up as we discussed was all funded by his wife's family so yeah he's he's in debt
00:44:55
he's facing for closure and lawsuits brought by his mother-in-law and numerous other creditors so again the
00:45:01
walls were closing in on January 28th shortly after noon Farmington Police were dispatched to perform a
00:45:11
wellbeing check at for Jefferson Crossing this was the home fotus had shared with both Jennifer at one point
00:45:19
and then later Michelle and where he was on house arrest having posted bail after
00:45:25
the caper where fotus had dismantled the memorial to Jennifer at the entrance of
00:45:29
this development fotus movements outside of the home were even more limited as we
00:45:35
said he was to remain on strict house arrests and that's where he was supposed to be at noon on the 28th this is also
00:45:43
when an emergency bond hearing was scheduled at the Stanford Superior Court he's not showing up for this thing right
00:45:52
the officers decide that they need to perform this well-being check and when they go to the home they had to
00:45:58
forcibly enter the home what they found is photus in bad shape they pulled him he's unresponsive out of a vehicle and
00:46:10
laid him out in the driveway and onlookers could see that they started to perform
00:46:17
CPR on photus well yeah and they requested oxygen tanks right away yeah so it's looking like this all got to him
00:46:26
and he attempted to take his life so they determined that what he did was he had gone to his garage rigged up a
00:46:36
vacuum cleaner hose to the tailpipe of his black Suburban a fixing it with a clamp with the garage doors closed he
00:46:46
started the ignition and ran the end of the hose into the interior of the truck and he sat in this vehicle with photos
00:46:54
of his children and he's writing you know a suicide note did they release a copy of the suicide
00:47:02
note they did but there has been some information that was redacted from this note so if if you're interested Captain
00:47:10
I will read it just note that we will have to play along when we get to the redacted
00:47:15
portions it's dated January 28th 20120 and addressed simply to all says if you are reading this I am no
00:47:26
more I refuse to spend even an hour more in jail for something I had nothing to do with enough is enough if it takes my
00:47:34
head to end this so be it I want it to be known that Michelle charonis had nothing to do with Jennifer's
00:47:43
disappearance and neither did Kent maheni I ask the state to let them free of any such accusations I also asked the
00:47:53
state to stop harassing my friends name redacted and name redacted they are honorable people please let my children
00:48:03
know that I love them I would do anything to be with them but unfortunately we all have our limits the
00:48:09
state will not rest until I rot in jail my attorney can explain what happened with the bags on Albany Avenue
00:48:17
everything else is a story fabricated by law enforcement I want to thank all my family and friends that stood by me this
00:48:26
difficult time above all redacted I am sorry for letting you down and not continuing the fight well he was a liar
00:48:36
in life and a liar in death as well fotus was placed in an ambulance and sent to nearby Yukon Medical Center but
00:48:45
it quickly became clear that it was too little too late fotus was technically alive but had insufficient brain
00:48:54
function to survive and was reliant on life support M now at the hospital his five children were permitted to come and
00:49:02
say goodbye to their father this was more than they ever got to do with their mother and really a testament to the
00:49:09
good willll and generosity of Gloria Farber right with his family from Greece around him life support systems were
00:49:19
removed and fotus was pronounced dead at 5:32 p.m. on January 3rd 30th so what now fotus death left
00:49:29
everyone involved in the case reeling and many many unanswered questions of course the most significant of these
00:49:37
were where is Jennifer right and it is still unknown whether Michelle or Kent actually know the whereabouts of
00:49:46
Jennifer's Body well again I I think even if they knew that information they're not going to share that with law
00:49:52
enforcement well in the status of the case remain unclear really at this time police have stated that they do not
00:50:00
consider the investigation over and that there is additional surveillance and DNA
00:50:05
evidence that is it's not been disclosed to the public the chief prosecutor State's Attorney Richard caglio stated
00:50:15
in February that finding Jennifer remains a number one priority for authorities according to Media sources
00:50:23
discussions are ongoing behind close doors as to how to approach the case now yeah again it would be easier to bring
00:50:31
charges against people and I think it's such a heinous crime you want you want to bring some kind of charges even if
00:50:38
it's not murder right because we do still have the two likely but alleged co-conspirators to deal with Jennifer
00:50:48
Farber du's family issued a statement after fotus death saying quote tragically the children have not been
00:50:56
and may never be able to say goodbye to their mother Jennifer who remains missing this horrific reality continues
00:51:05
and we ask once again that the privacy of the families and loved ones be honored the five duelist children remain
00:51:14
with Gloria and the nanny Lauren continues to assist in their care fotus was cremated in his remains given to his
00:51:24
family which they intend to bury him in Greece I think that we speak for everyone when we say let's hope and pray
00:51:32
that Jennifer is found and returned to the family that loves her her children have no parent remaining in their lives
00:51:41
so this closure could help them heal even if just a little bit but of course it seems that even if Jennifer is found
00:51:52
her kids will have to live with the knowledge that their father father killed their mother and in his last act
00:51:59
refused to give her [Music] justice do we have any recommended reading for this week we do Captain and
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this one is in fact a listener recommendation so thank you to Haley this week's recommended reading is is
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the Beverly Hills Supper Club the untold story behind ky's worst Tragedy by Robert D Webster now this book is
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amazing I love the layout of the book which sounds a little weird but it's complete with an index diagrams a bunch
00:52:42
of pictures because the author is trying to lay out a story in which he says that
00:52:48
ky's worst tragedy since the Civil War where 169 people were killed as what he says is the result of greed corruption
00:52:57
deceit Mafia rule government coverups kidnapping and murder so check out this book go to True Crim garage.com you
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Episode Highlights

  • Quality Sleep with Ashley
    Ashley offers top mattress brands at winning prices, helping you sleep better and support children in need.
    “Your mattress purchase helps give the gift of better sleep to children in need.”
    @ 00m 11s
    November 16, 2023
  • Rosetta Stone's Gamechanging Technology
    Learn 25 languages intuitively with Rosetta Stone's immersive lessons and voice feedback.
    “Dive into 25 languages by learning intuitively, just like when you were a kid.”
    @ 00m 42s
    November 16, 2023
  • True Crime Garage Introduction
    Join Nick and the Captain as they dive into true crime stories while enjoying craft beer.
    “Thanks for listening, I'm your host Nick!”
    @ 01m 42s
    November 16, 2023
  • Fotus Doues Arrested
    Fotus Doues was arrested on multiple charges, including felony murder and kidnapping.
    “Fotus is charged with murder, kidnapping, tampering with evidence, and hindering prosecution.”
    @ 22m 28s
    November 16, 2023
  • Bloody Pillow Discovery
    A man claims he found a bloody pillow in the trash, raising alarms.
    “I found a bloody pillow in the trash.”
    @ 24m 47s
    November 16, 2023
  • Conspiracy Unraveled
    Investigators suspect a plot between Fotus and Kent to eliminate their wives.
    “This sounds like two evil dudes plotting how to get rid of their wives.”
    @ 40m 00s
    November 16, 2023
  • Fotus's Suicide Note
    In a heartbreaking note, Fotus denies involvement in Jennifer's disappearance.
    “I refuse to spend even an hour more in jail for something I had nothing to do with.”
    @ 47m 29s
    November 16, 2023
  • Family's Heartbreaking Statement
    Jennifer Farber du's family expressed their sorrow after Fotus's death, highlighting the children's loss.
    “Tragically, the children have not been and may never be able to say goodbye.”
    @ 50m 54s
    November 16, 2023
  • Hope for Jennifer's Return
    A call for hope as the family wishes for Jennifer to be found and returned.
    “Let's hope and pray that Jennifer is found and returned to the family that loves her.”
    @ 51m 29s
    November 16, 2023
  • Children's Loss
    The devastating reality for Jennifer's children after her disappearance and Fotus's death.
    “Her children have no parent remaining in their lives.”
    @ 51m 38s
    November 16, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • I've tried others, but Rosetta Stone's immersive lessons are gamechangers!
    Jennifer Dulos /// Part 2 /// 379
  • Hopefully, we will have some answers soon.
    Jennifer Dulos /// Part 2 /// 379
  • I found a bloody pillow in the trash.
    Jennifer Dulos /// Part 2 /// 379
  • This sounds like two evil dudes plotting how to get rid of their wives.
    Jennifer Dulos /// Part 2 /// 379
  • Tragically, the children have not been and may never be able to say goodbye.
    Jennifer Dulos /// Part 2 /// 379
  • Her children have no parent remaining in their lives.
    Jennifer Dulos /// Part 2 /// 379

Key Moments

  • Arrest Announcement22:28
  • Bloody Evidence26:08
  • Conspiracy Theories37:21
  • Suicide Attempt46:30
  • Final Goodbye49:02
  • Hope for Return51:29
  • Children's Heartbreak51:38
  • Father's Crime51:55

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