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[Music] crime oh it's you oh it's you w it's you [Music] you the great state of Ohio has 88
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counties for this week's True Crime Story we head to Mahoning County and to one of 14 townships in Mahoning Borman
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Ohio Borman is a suburb directly south of Youngstown in the early 70s life in Boardman was changing changing how its
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30,000 or so citizens felt about their town Borman was a safe town and a great place to raise a family but was that
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still true who could be sure and with the story we are presenting this week you'll see why parents started
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implementing stronger curfews demanding to know their children's whereabouts and
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telling them to not walk alone and even in a group always to be looking over your shoulder 50 years ago this week a
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12-year-old Boardman boy Bradley Bolino was abducted in murder his case remains open and not for a lack of effort the
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Boardman Police Department did everything in their power over the course of five decades to find Justice
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for Brad and the Bolino family they have tried everything every resource even calling on other law enforcement
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agencies for help and yet the person or persons responsible remain a mystery the following is from the akan
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Beacon Journal the headline nothing was normal the weekend of slanging and the article reads normally when he left his
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best friend's house after an afternoon of playing basketball Bradley Bolino went directly home normally Don
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templeman's parents drove Bradley the several miles to his home normally Bradley 12 would be talking to Don on
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the phone the next day setting up another rendevu for basketball talking or walking but Easter weekend wasn't
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normal sometime after he left the templeman house at 7:30 p.m. Friday Bradley was sexually molested strangled
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to death and stuffed into a trash bin where his body was discovered that Tuesday Morning his body still bore the
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red white and blue jeans and the T-shirt with the devil made me do it and blazoned across it that he was wearing
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when he left the templ MS quote if Brad left here after dark we would drive him home said Mrs templeman but Friday I was
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shopping and my husband was sick so Brad left on his own Dawn didn't hear from him
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again Bradley's parents Mr and Mrs Joseph bino didn't report their son missing until Saturday afternoon
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apparently due to a misunderstanding about whether he would stay overnight Friday with the templ MS the coroner
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investigator stated quote we hope to be able to pinpoint the time of death more accurately when our lab tests are
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complete the headline was right nothing was normal that weekend not for anyone in Boardman and it would be a long time
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before things would start to feel normal again because unfortunately this was not
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the first of its kind for Boardman and sadly it would not be the last Bradley's murder was sandwiched
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right between the murders of two other boys from from Boardman that's right three murders three kids all in the span
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of less than 5 years as one writer from Boardman put it there was a dread a pale
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that hung over the community for some time that period of time for the community was one of distress and horror
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evoking the words of Buffalo Springfield he wrote There's Something Happening Here what it is ain't exactly clear this
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is True Crime garage and this is the true crime story of the still unsolved Boorman Ohio
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[Music] murders it's you it's [Music] you it's you that was one of the trailers that we
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we had for our four-part series titled the Boardman murders that we released last year starting with Part One
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released in the last days of March 2022 that series episodes 567 to episode number 570 on your true crime garage
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radio dial if you want to go back and listen to those now if you have not been paying attention to the Boardman murders
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case out of bardman Ohio located in Northeast oh Ohio there have been significant updates in this case we are
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talking Long Island serial killer sized updates in the Boardman cases when we featured the True Crime Story We honed
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in on three unsolved homicides in bourman Ohio from the early 1970s the three we focused in on were
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the murders of Thomas be he was 15 years old who was attacked when walking home on the E evening of December 4th
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1970 he was found either slumped over or lying on the ground with severe head injuries he would later die from those
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injuries the next unsolved homicide that we covered was that of 12-year-old Brad
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bolina Brad was last seen walking home from his friend's home on the night of March 31st
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1972 Brad bolo's lifeless body was discovered found in a dump 5 days later on the morning of April 4th
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1972 we discussed the Youngstown Vindicator newspaper article the infamous article that everyone in
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Boardman thinks of when they hear the name Brad Bolino and how could anyone forget the headline read refu man makes
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Grim Discovery and right there on the front page of the newspaper for everyone to see including kids that happen to
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look at their parents reading the paper or the newspaper sitting on the kitchen table a large black and white photo
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positioned above the fold on the front page the picture showing two Boardman police officers both obviously quite
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cold standing outside standing next to a small dumpster now that boy's body is in
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that dumpster the killer had placed him there the dumpster was partially filled and Brad's body was covered over with
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cardboard boxes and waste eventually Brad's case just like Thomas be's case went cold the third case that we
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featured in the four-part series was that of David Evans he was another Boardman boy age 13 David went missing
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on Friday January 17th 1975 David like Brad was a little smaller for his age but David was a
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mighty little man now oddly enough and this is just one of those haunting parts of a story that just sticks with you
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little David was actually last seen by his own father so David was seen at approximately 6:00 p.m. by his father in
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the neighborhood where the Evans family lived father sees son and talks to son David at the intersection of Stillson
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place and withers's drive this is just about two dozen houses away from the evans's home David told his dad that he
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had checked out the ice on Boorman Lake to see if it was thick enough to skate on but found that it was not so he was
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on his way home David never made it home isn't David diabetic David is diabetic and required an insulin shot every 12 or
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so hours with the paper stating that he would been due for his next insulin shot
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the next morning at 7:30 a.m. before breakfast at 11:30 p.m. on the night that he was last seen David's redk knit
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hat was found at Stillson place in Withers Drive intersection so this is very near where his father last saw the
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boy snow was trampled in about a 3-ft circle around this hat this winter hat and let's remember David was shy and
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reserved especially with strangers and his parents didn't think he would willingly go off with the stranger so he
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is not the type to Hitch rides we talked about in our original coverage that Brad
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Bolino was quite the opposite very going very adventurous and was known to hitchhike for 6 days Volunteers in law
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enforcement searched for David Evans on the ground and even in the air with a helicopter from the National Guard sadly
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the search ended in a bad way on Thursday January 23rd David's frozen body was found in the bushes of a
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parking lot at the northeast corner of Market Street in Borman Poland Road routes 7 and 225 four respectively the
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location is approximately about a half mile or so from where Brad bolo's body was found in the dumpster now the
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question 50 or so years ago when the homicides took place in Borman was could these three homicides be related all
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connected to one another or committed by the same per or perpetrators well with one murder it shocks the community when
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you have another body it starts shocking that whole region and so then law enforcement and armchair detectives are
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going to start looking into the similarities of these crimes and the differences of these crimes to see if
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they're connected and these cases really became especially that of Brad Bolino really
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came became almost something of urban legend there in Northeast Ohio and it makes sense I mean these this is how
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horror movies start off a child on the streets disappears and then days later is found dead now there were
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similarities in these cases but there were also some differences as well and the similarities would be that you have
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three youngsters all males walking home in the evening or nighttime and then they are found two of
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them found dead one of them found severely attacked so Thomas be lost consciousness
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he was found unconscious beaten about the head and when they recovered him they took him to the hospital the story
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of his attack seems to be quite different than the what could have happened to David Evans and what could
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have happened to Brad Bolino with Evans and Bolino there weren't any real theories
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at the time here you have a missing kid goes missing for several days and then is found
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placed almost somewhat concealed in both situations where where with Thomas bar he's kind of lying out in the open and
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he's found and the story that went along with Thomas Bear's case was that he had
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been jumped by some older boys or boys his age and again the similarities here would be the ages Brad Bolino David
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Evans 13 and 12 years old Thomas Barett 15 years old and one thing that's that's
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very strange about this case here Captain is child victims but they're different there is a significant
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difference in the victimology in my opinion here you have Bolino who's 12 Evans who is 13 both of these boys you
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would say that 15 is not too far of a stretch from 12 to 13 and then Thomas Barrett who's 15 however what we
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actually have here is Bolino and David Evans were quite small for their age these boys they could have Bolino could
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have passed for eight Evans could have passed for 10 and Thomas bar very much 15 years old going
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on 16 so somewhat of a different victimology there but you can't get over the fact that all three of these boys
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are walking home at night by themselves and it's very rare for a community of this size to experence ER the homicide
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of three children three male boys within the course of less than a 5year span well like you
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said you have two of the victims that were concealed and then one that was not that raises the question is that a a
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difference in these cases or did the perpetrator does not get a chance to conceal the other body exactly and
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here's the thing too Captain what we have here is what our findings were when we looked into this case and this was
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one of those cases where we had the opportunity the rare opportunity to spend more than 10 days or two weeks on
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the case we did this in a four-part series span over two weeks so that allowed us to one dive into this case
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and be very thorough with it well in advance leading up to that two weeks but also gave us an addition
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7 to 10 days to review everything that we had so we were really able to focus in on this case the other thing too we
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were able to get a hold of the police file for the David Evans case well like you said some of these cases became
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Larger than Life they became folklore so when you normally have cases like that let's take a missing person case like
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Mara Murray or you take the Amy mahalic case a lot of information starts coming out about the victims their families and
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possible suspects well and when you have multiple victims multiple crime scenes there's a lot to explore there and then
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on top of that you also want to try to figure out a are they connected or and B why 50 years why do we have a child
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homicide that that goes unsolved goes cold for this many decades and then oh by the way we got two more that happened
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in the same area around the same time and so that is something that really needs to be explored now what our some
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of our findings were was there there's some weird portions to this story first Thomas be
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homicide they said that from from day one now mind you he did live for several days in the hospital before passing away
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but Brad Bolino very obvious homicide the poor boy was found with a belt wrapped around his neck discarded
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in a dumpster and very obvious signs of homicide and the injuries and so on and so forth clear now with the David Evans
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portion not so clear his diabetes and the required insulin shots made this a rather tricky case
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and this was for the experts not just us here sitting in the garage the coroner had decided that he
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died of natural causes basically he dies due to his diabetes and not getting the
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necessary insulin shots right and the police department Boardman PD God bless them look nobody's perfect people make
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mistakes we're fallible we're human beings I get it coroner sees something makes a scientific
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assessment and comes up with the conclusion that oh he died due to the diabetes Boardman police department they
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go back to the corner and say not so fast we see a lot of reasons why we think this is a homicide we we want you
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to change your ruling from natural causes to homicide why because that gives them
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that provides them different resources to investigate this as a homicide now ultimately they do not get
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that reversal on that decision what happens is Boardman PD they decide we see reasons why this is a
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homicide let's go back to the the scene of where David Evans is last seen by his
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father we talked about this when we covered it when you find that winter cap on the ground in the middle of the
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intersection snow around it trampled over and you have a boy that the parents and the teachers and everybody are
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saying no no no this kid would not have just got into a vehicle with somebody you find that cap in the
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streets because somebody snatched that kid off of the street so you have signs of an
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abduction you have him missing for days before his body's found and then on top of that he has some significant injuries
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to him there was some kind of hole or puncture Mark in the in in the small of his back there was also he had a broken
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wrist now what they were able to determine is that the broken bones occurred after he was dead and so what
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the police are are saying is look this kid didn't die of these natural causes and then break break his own arm trying
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to hide his own body this body was concealed he didn't crawl into the bushes to try to stay warm he
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was 20 houses from his house walking home he would have just went home and this is not a kid that ran the
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streets so the police are saying we have reason to believe that this is a homicide and God bless them they kept it
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marked as that labeled entitled as that for their efforts going forward regardless of what the coroner said now
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we agreed with law enforcement here and went against the coroner and said yeah we see every reason why this is a
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homicide now had the person that taken this boy not intended to kill him one could make that argument we
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don't want to make that argument but we could we could see how one could make that argument but at the end of the day
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when you abduct somebody hold them captive and then deny them the necessary medicine that they require to
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live that's a homicide and that's what bourman PD was [Music] saying this show is sponsored by better
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wafting in the wind [Laughter] stinks there were significant updates in this case as we said now typically for
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longtime listeners you know that we would put these updates on our other show off the Record now the reason that
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we did not include these updates on off the Record quite simply was when the update in the Brad Bolino case
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occurred we were on Hiatus that was when we were on a bit of a break we were transitioning from the stitcher Premium
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back to our findings and and a lot of people had this theory that the bino case and that the David Evans case was
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connected that's right but we we highlighted it circled it in red and underlined it
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about 10 times because we reviewed the information and we couldn't everything leaned toward they should be connected
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that they were very likely connected now we get this huge update we're talking about the Bolino case we covered and our
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four-part series came out roughly on the 50 year anniversary the 50-year marker of Brad bolo's case being cold and we
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called it cold because that's that's just the common terminology to use but really truly and we had not confirmation
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of this but some suspicions of this that this case bino's case was being worked pretty good pretty
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regularly behind the scenes in in a kind of a quiet closed door Manor that Boardman PD never really gave up on the
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Brad Bolino case so this update comes out January of this year late January when
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WKBN first news27 reported the update in the Boardman murders cases and they State here
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Boardman Township Police announced Tuesday they believe they know who is responsible for the 1972 murder of a
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12-year-old boy in a press conference Chief Todd w said they believe Joseph Norman Hill a
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former Township resident who died in 2019 in the state of California is responsible for the April 1972
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strangulation death of 12-year-old Brad Lee Bolino worth credited former Chief Jeffrey Patterson who reopened the case
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in 2001 and sent clothing of Brad's to the state Bureau of Criminal Identification and investig
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that had DNA on them that did not belong to the boy after a series of tests that
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took years through several private firms and Ohio BCI investigators were able to
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link Joseph Hill to the crime worth said BCI says there is 98.2% probability that Joseph Hill's DNA
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is the DNA that was found on Brad got him I'm going to step outside of the this article just for a second to
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clarify why it's not a more significant match okay 98.2% very close to being 100% right
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close enough for me keep in mind Joseph Hill had already passed away by the time
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the DNA had led them to his family tree right and Joseph Hill lived in California in 2019 when he died and he
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was cremated so they were not able to exume Joseph Hill and collect his DNA what they were able to do is trace this
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DNA through family trees which led them to Joseph Hill being a 98.2% probability that the DNA found on
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our murder victim belonged to Joseph Hill so how significant is this to this case well it's extremely significant
00:30:53
because ultimately they're going to close the case based off of this now now the as to the significance of the
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probability 98.2% I don't have any quotes from the scientists to to tell us how many you
00:31:08
know out of how many millions or billions or trillions of people that means that we can Whittle it down to
00:31:13
Joseph Norman Hill but what we do have is the law enforcement experts so we have a quote from the police chief that
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says we believe there is sufficient evidence that if he were still alive we would present
00:31:28
this case to a grand jury and then we also have the Mahoning County prosecutor who said that her office
00:31:36
reviewed the file and also believes that the case would be taken to a grand jury
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and the prosecutor praised the work of the investigators saying that they never abandoned the case and stuck with it
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over the years as DNA technology advanced and she's exactly right and and I believe the the chief is right too you
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here you have the police chief and the prosecutor saying if this dude were still alive
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we'd take this DNA evidence along with everything we have in the file and we would take it to a grand jury let the
00:32:08
grand jury decide if we are charging this guy with murder and taking his ass to court she goes on to commend the police
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and their work that they did saying over 50 years had gone and they did not let it go they didn't stop one of the
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reasons worth said that he went public was because police want to know if any other people in the township ever
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had any contact with Joseph Hill he said law enforcement in California were also
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looking into other cases to see if there is any link to homicides that they have
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after Joseph Hill moved from Ohio to California yeah that's interesting and then we have another officer his last
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name is cesic he said at this presser that Joseph Hill's name never came up in the
00:33:04
investigation and in fact he was never he wasn't just never considered a suspect his name did not appear in their
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case File and so they're announcing to the public back in January not only are we
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finally able to close the Brad Bolino case but on top of that we are asking anyone who may have in information about
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Joseph Hill please call our detectives the Boardman detectives at 33726 4144 and we've seen law enforcement do
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this quite a bit in other cases they go on to discuss the crime a little bit here in this article saying the boy's
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body was found at about 8:00 a.m. Tuesday April 4th 1972 in a trash container behind I Ley on Boardman
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Canfield Road a tan belt was wrapped around his neck and his clothing was in disarray investigators said he was
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sexually assaulted before he was killed this is really this this little part of the case has always intrigued me yeah me
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too when we covered it Captain we spent a good deal of time 20 or 30 minutes or so of of that garage episode pouring
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through the inconsistencies in the story about Brad Bolino being missing and also
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the inconsistencies involving the evidence surounding this homicide one of those inconsistencies that we discussed
00:34:31
was this belt so they find him with this tan belt wrapped around his neck it it was the
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belt that was used to kill the boy and it was reported that this was a child-size belt and we where we had the
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the discrepancy was with the items that was found with the boy and there were two
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versions of that story one version is that he was found without a belt so leading to the possibility that the the
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murder weapon actually belonged to the boy that it was taken off of his person and then used to kill him the other
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version of that story was Brad bolina was found with a belt on and also this belt was found on him wrapped around his
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neck right meaning that it wasn't his belt correct and so they did a lot of investigating on this belt which which
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leads me to believe that probably the ladder is true that he was probably found wearing a belt or at the very
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least police take the belt to bolo's family and parents and say was this the belt that your son was wearing and they
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say either he didn't wear belts or no that was not his belt and it was definitely a child-sized
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belt but if he in fact was wearing a belt or if Brad if this was not his belt then you have to wonder did this
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killer was he driving around looking for a victim with his preferred murder weapon that he came prepared to do what
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he did to that kid and we know that they spent a significant time investigating the belt
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because there were there was a there's a mall in the area back then and they went
00:36:20
to that mall looking and trying to find if they could find any anything that stood out to anybody like did you see a
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grown man in here buying a child's belt and he's he's without a child when he's buying the belt no I get that but as a
00:36:34
parent you buy a lot of things for your kids without them being in the store with you did anybody did did somebody
00:36:40
write a check for a belt something that we can trace back to the purchaser and ask that person questions so they
00:36:49
investigated the belt it's still kind of an outstanding part of this case there they've not really clued Us in on
00:36:59
exactly what is the truth here but most of the indicators are that it was not Brad bolo's belt they go on to
00:37:08
say in the article the Mahoning County coroner at the time Dr David binki said in news reports the boy's death was
00:37:17
quote the act of a degenerate end quote Boardman police said they had some leads
00:37:23
immediately after Brad bolo's body was found but they also stated what they termed quote phony
00:37:31
information you know we talked about the inconsistencies in the stories and this
00:37:35
is what they're addressing here at the presser which they said was hampering their investigation there was some
00:37:42
thought remember we discussed this well Captain there was some thought that Brad's death could be connected to the
00:37:48
1970 beating death of 15-year-old Thomas be of Aton Avenue who was found December
00:37:54
3rd 1970 on Lake Park Road badly beaten he died of his injuries 10 days later worth said police will reexamine the be
00:38:06
case as well as the case of David Evans 13 whose body was found in a parking lot
00:38:12
near us 224 and Market Street in January 1975 a few days after he was reported missing
00:38:21
worth said an autopsy showed that David Evans died of natural causes and be death was also different than Brad's but
00:38:29
police will check the cases again to make sure there is no connection with Joseph Norman Hill two days after Brad
00:38:38
was found Township police chief David Hartsock told reporters detectives had quote two good leads to pursue the belt
00:38:47
used to strangle Brad was also sent to the state Bureau of criminal investigation for analysis a neighbor
00:38:55
told a newspaper reporter that Brad was a gentle boy with a sunny disposition Brad had been at a friend's house on
00:39:04
that Friday that he was killed in investigators estimated that he had been dead for about 48 to 72 hours before he
00:39:13
was found police said Brad was last seen April 1st hitchhiking but the mother of
00:39:19
the boy Brad was visiting said that that had to be a mistake she told a reporter
00:39:25
Brad had been at her Applewood Acres Home on March 31st and was allowed to stay until 9:00 p.m. but about 7:30 p.m.
00:39:34
that evening he called for a ride when his father didn't answer the mother of Brad's friend said he then left this was
00:39:43
one of those parts of the story that that we had to examine as well because there were several
00:39:49
people not just this one person that said hey the following day after this kid was already missing I saw him trying
00:39:55
to hitch a ride there were a couple reports that had said that they had seen him playing basketball or out riding his
00:40:01
bike and so there was a lot of speculation and controversy a little bit going on at the time there in Boardman
00:40:10
of people not agreeing on exactly when Brad was was killed well one I think because you
00:40:19
have a younger victim it's a shock to the community and then the manner in which
00:40:27
he is found is a double shock so law enforcement has to do like a double due diligence because of the like you said
00:40:38
this becomes like folklore instantly well in the article gives us further insight into that of the Killer and
00:40:47
continuing on the police chief said that Joseph Hill was a truck driver who drove
00:40:52
for a local water Bottling Company he was 32 years old when Brad was killed and then moved to California in 1978 so
00:41:04
keep it mind Brad was killed in 1972 Joseph Hill the killer moves from Borman Ohio to California in
00:41:12
1978 roughly six years later right Joseph Hill again he died in July of 2019 in a nursing home in California and
00:41:20
as we already said his body was cremated the police chief worth and Captain Al K the police chief worth and Captain Al
00:41:31
kesich chief of detectives both said at the pressor investigators were able to get DNA samples from hills family
00:41:38
members some voluntarily and some through quote other means they go on to state that there was
00:41:46
never a link between Hill or Bolino that investigators could find Brad was found
00:41:52
about a mile away from where he was last seen C basic said the autopsy of Brad found that he had an undigested meal in
00:42:01
his system which means he died quickly so those rumors and those statements of people saying hey I saw this kid after
00:42:11
you're saying he was last scene and prior to you finding him deceased in the dumpster those were either just flat out
00:42:21
false or as we suspected when we went through the information that it was probably people that were
00:42:28
really trying to help and if you see a kid I mean this is a neighborhood this is a town a city that is filled with
00:42:37
kids and boys Brad bolo's age these are people that probably just really wanted to help and there's that other human
00:42:46
side too when the when it's reported hey we're looking for this kid we don't know
00:42:52
how or where or when exactly that he went missing we need the The public's help there's that that natural human
00:42:59
side of us that want to go well you know what that kid he's probably out running
00:43:04
the streets we don't want to think that evil snatched up this kid and did something horrible well the chief is
00:43:10
going to give us some insight because based on the autopsy they believe that he died within 2 to four hours from
00:43:18
leaving his home yeah two to four hours from leaving his friend's home and then on top of that they were able to use
00:43:25
some of the items were found in the dumpster to really narrow that down as well so we have the mother saying that
00:43:33
Brad Bolino left the friend's home at approximately 7:30 right and what we will have from police and this is stuff
00:43:42
that we did not learn until 50 years later but what they were telling us Captain is that based on the items that
00:43:50
they found that had been thrown away and this this was not trash and waste found
00:43:58
on top of the boy that the killer had thrown in there to try to conceal the body from what police could see it
00:44:05
looked like the boy was killed very likely in the in the Killer's car or at least elsewhere and then driven to this
00:44:13
dumpster placed inside and then just left and then the people th this is a busy area this is almost the center of
00:44:22
town but this is not that far from where Hill worked right this is not terribly far from where Hill lived or where
00:44:29
Bolino lived or or where uh the friend lived I mean we're we're talking about everything here is
00:44:36
within less with a one and a half mile radius really if you if you want to get down to it and so they're what they're
00:44:46
saying is that we found trash items that were discarded by the businesses that were closed by midnight that night and
00:44:56
and not just closed doors locked and everything cleaned up thrown away and then employees gone byby for the day and
00:45:06
they're saying that trash that they found on top of the boy unfortunately was trash that would have been discarded
00:45:11
that night before anybody would have left those businesses so they were able to base it off of that and then take it
00:45:17
a step further with the autopsy with the science and say this undigested meal in
00:45:22
his system means that he died relatively quickly after leaving his friend's home
00:45:27
because he ate that meal at the friend's house right so they are saying chief of
00:45:32
detectives cesic telling us two to four hours those other sightings of Brad Bolino just they were not correct uh
00:45:42
they go on to tell us in the in the article police interviewed several people over the years and used search
00:45:47
warrants to get DNA eliminating people one by one now some notes from that news conference
00:45:56
again the the information that is new here the digested meal in his system wasn't such new news to us that was
00:46:05
something that we talked about when we covered it that was something that had been fairly well reported over the years
00:46:12
the news there was was the trash and how they went through all the items in that
00:46:17
dumpster to try to come to a conclusion of When Brad would have been placed in that big
00:46:24
receptacle so 2 to four hours after leaving the residence of his friend when he was last
00:46:30
seen 7:30 p.m is placed in the dumpster absolutely before midnight that's new information because based off of what we
00:46:42
were told before he could have been killed and kept elsewhere before being placed in that
00:46:49
dumpster but it sounds like no that's not the case right makes a lot of sense the other interesting thing too the take
00:46:54
away from that press conference that news conference is no connection to the Bolino family and after the news
00:47:03
conference the chief of detectives cesic and chief worth they stayed and they answered any questions that the public
00:47:14
or media might have regarding this case and the the big break and finally closing this case and one of those was
00:47:25
time and time again again but I think three or four times they were asked to clarify that there's no connection
00:47:31
between murderer and the victim yeah to me it and correct me if I'm wrong here but to me the connection is the area yes
00:47:43
and so it's like especially during that time uh during that age period that bino
00:47:52
was in you'd walk around town you'd ride your bike around town there was a lot of
00:47:58
things and and parents didn't keep a super tight eye on on on everything that the kids
00:48:08
were doing I'm a child from the late 80s early 90s and there was less supervision
00:48:14
then I can only imagine in the early 7s and and and personality Brad Bolino was known to run with his friends to ride
00:48:24
his bike everywhere he was known to hitchhike rides now at the time and the Bolino family
00:48:31
really shut down right where you have other cases where you see parents stay in the media and stay at the Forefront
00:48:40
of the investigation and be the face of their child victim for for the investigation that was not so much the
00:48:48
case with the Bolos and I think a large part of that was I think they took on a lot of criticism local and even beyond
00:48:58
the city limits of Boardman of maybe they weren't great parents maybe they weren't supervising
00:49:05
their son enough and this is what happens when you don't look after your kids I can understand people we've
00:49:14
talked about this dozens of times here right when somebody kills a kid it's a crime against that victim it's a crime
00:49:21
against that family it's a crime against other children and ultimately it's a crime against the community and the
00:49:27
community wants its pound of Flesh if they cannot find the perpetrator they want somebody to point to and say this
00:49:35
is wrong and this is what happens when people don't do things the right way and I get it yeah it's they want to hold
00:49:42
somebody accountable and so since we don't have uh a solid suspect you know they start pointing the finger at the
00:49:49
parents I mean you see this in in a lot of cases I get it these cases are supposed to make you angry if they don't
00:49:55
make you angry You Ain't Human you don't share the same heart that the rest of us
00:50:00
have you don't have the same soul that the rest of us have so I get it but at the end of the day the only person here
00:50:07
to blame is Joseph Norman Hill that piece of [ __ ] he's the killer he took a little boy off the streets and he killed
00:50:14
him and he discarded him in a dumpster like trash he's the only person to blame we got nobody else to point to right
00:50:22
Brad Bolino had gone to his friend's house dozens of times and come home perfectly happy and healthy dozens of
00:50:29
times and regardless let's not victim blame either who knows did did Brad Bolino stick his
00:50:37
thumb up in the air that night to get a ride who knows and who cares because this guy went out that
00:50:45
night looking for a victim in my opinion if he's driving around with that belt the belt that we knew we now know killed
00:50:53
Brad Bolino and belonged to Joseph Hill he went out looking for a victim that night and
00:51:03
unfortunately whether Brad was snatched off the streets or stuck his thumb in the air and hopped into Hill's car we
00:51:11
now know not only the result but who is responsible right now some other things in that presser in that news conference
00:51:21
that were follow-up questions that didn't make it to this article right again they are
00:51:29
saying no connection to Brad Bolino and this is something that I'm underlining for a reason here because I want people
00:51:37
that haven't followed this case to understand the level of Praise that Boardman PD deserve in the Brad Bolino
00:51:47
case 50 years they never gave up on this case 50 years they never gave up on this
00:51:52
kid and we know that in 200 one they started doing their DNA and physical evidence work and in
00:52:02
fact I can tell you behind the scenes the porch light project reached out to Boardman PD years ago and said we want
00:52:10
to help you with this case we want to fund DNA genealogy work on this case because we
00:52:18
think that it's going to lead you to the guy that committed the crime right and Boardman PD said thank you
00:52:26
you guys are awesome but no thanks why we we are already doing what it is that you are offering to do well it's also
00:52:33
rumored that they're not huge fans of James rener so they go on to tell us that they thoroughly investigated if
00:52:41
there would be any kind of connection not just from Brad from victim to perpetrator right but Brad's
00:52:49
family and they said there's no connection to they you know Joseph Norman Hill had a had a son and his son
00:52:59
didn't go to the same school as Brad they didn't know each other the families didn't attend the
00:53:05
same church there is they didn't live on the same street or same neighborhood there was Zero connection from this
00:53:12
monster to the Bolino family and the reason why I'm underlining that is be is to remind everybody that this case
00:53:20
didn't take 50 years to solve due to a lack of effort we've seen it time and time again
00:53:27
when you have a stranger on Stranger crime there is virtually nothing to link the perpetrator to the
00:53:35
victim other than this scientific evidence that we had to wait on technology to catch up to this physical
00:53:42
evidence and so goodbye the uh Boardman PD for sticking with this case for so long and they also tell us too captain
00:53:51
again remember they're asking the public for help for information about Joseph Norman hill now that we know that he
00:53:57
killed a kid in 1972 that he raped and killed a child in 1972 we need more information on this
00:54:05
guy because what else could he have done so they tell us he owned a gold Monte Carlo at the time and while there were
00:54:13
many reports into the police in that file from 1972 none of the vehicle descriptions
00:54:22
match that of Joseph Norman Hills vehicle at the time now keep in mind they are not just asking people in
00:54:31
Boardman Ohio for information about Joseph Norman Hill they're asking people everywhere he moved to California in
00:54:39
1978 they're asking people in San Bernardino California for information about this guy as well because he lived
00:54:46
there for 40 years before he passes away and they go on to tell us that he lived
00:54:53
in 14 different residents and after moving to California they do state that we have very little information on
00:55:01
Joseph Norman Hill uh one partly because he moved out to California and according
00:55:07
to bardman PD they were saying that they believe he moved out there for work reasons but the
00:55:14
reason why that they have very little information about Hill here in Ohio and in California was that he had very
00:55:21
little family history we know he was married we know he had at least one kid but it seems to be a very small family
00:55:29
and and maybe he came from a very small family and his wife came from a small family so there's not a whole lot of
00:55:35
people to fill us in on the blanks in this guy's life his wife passes away in 1993
00:55:44
and interestingly enough one thing we discussed in our coverage last year was the the rumor mill it had all always
00:55:54
been rumored that the police were pretty certain they knew who killed the first victim or had or had a decent idea of
00:56:02
who may have been involved right in the Thomas bear homicide they kind of confirmed that at
00:56:10
afterwards when they're doing some follow-up questions this was really interesting to me because this is
00:56:14
something we were not clear on when we did our coverage so somebody directly asked them at the conference any chance
00:56:24
Joseph Hill killed Thomas beard and police say right there the chief and the chief of detectives tell the persons in
00:56:32
the audience the facts of that case do not match up with the facts of the Brad Bolino case and we believe this is their
00:56:41
words and I'm I'm kind of uh summarizing what they said paraphrasing paraphrasing thank you
00:56:48
welcome the the facts of the two cases don't don't match up there's there's not very many simul similarities in the case
00:56:56
but then on top of that that we believe we kind of know what happened to Thomas beard based off of the police file and
00:57:04
based off of the evidence and information that police were able to collect at the time of the of Beard's
00:57:09
homicide right but but the one part that is key here is they were saying that while bar was in bad shape from this
00:57:19
attack a lot of health problems with this this attack and unfortunately we know that he he would later die in the
00:57:26
hospital that he was at one point in the hospital able to communicate with police
00:57:32
now this might not be verbal he may not have been verbal and able to tell them who his attacker was or attackers were
00:57:41
but they said that he was able to communicate with them maybe he was able to write it blink sometimes they do that
00:57:47
you know answer the questions blink once for yes twice for no he was able to communicate to them that he knew his his
00:57:55
attacker or attackers um and that I'm guessing captain that that probably carries a lot
00:58:03
of weight with the investigators based off of information that they've already collected leading them to believe that
00:58:09
these two homicides are probably not connected now they did say too you want to talk of the effort not just the years
00:58:20
spent trying to solve the Brad Bolino murder case but the resources too the time and the man power woman power
00:58:28
people power on this case and the money that I had read somewhere that they had spent 29 or over
00:58:39
$29,000 to solve this case this is just for money used for test testing physical
00:58:48
evidence and Outsourcing that to the private sector but what they had said in the after this
00:58:58
presser was that the $29,000 in cost or or more than $29,000 in cost to solve the case it sounds like that was the
00:59:07
cost over the course of just a handful of years I had always believed that that was the money spent on this case for
00:59:14
test starting back in 2001 when we know that they were Outsourcing testing this physical evidence right but it sounds
00:59:21
like this is the money that was spent just in a handful years and that this case really started heating up behind
00:59:27
the scenes in the last few years and that some of this information it sounds like they
00:59:36
knew they knew that Joseph Norman Hill deceased was 98.2% the depositor of that physical
00:59:48
evidence that was found on our victim that they knew that for probably several months but we don't get this
00:59:55
announcement until they are able to thoroughly vet this guy or at least attempt to vet this guy and make sure
01:00:04
that what the science is telling them is correct well just again you know not to
01:00:09
harp on that idea but just because the families aren't connected that you know we don't know exactly what hell was
01:00:18
doing in that town and as long as you're in that town you would have been connected you would have seen these
01:00:25
children these were crimes of opportunity that's exactly right but you know what fascinates me and and also
01:00:33
what really Echoes a belief that we have said here on this show a dozen times unfortunately if you fall victim or fall
01:00:42
prey to somebody one of these monsters your case or your loved ones case is only as good as the the police
01:00:50
department investigating it only as good as the detect itive who catches your case only as good as the
01:01:03
detectives sitting at the desk where the case File Falls and here is a prime example of a
01:01:10
good Police Department great detectives great police chief a great force in general working together working very
01:01:19
hard on an investigation and what's so great here is that th this is why you don't give up here's that's what
01:01:27
infuriates me with a lot of these cold cases because you have I could name for you a dozen police departments and if I
01:01:36
can name a dozen that means that there's probably hundreds of them out there that
01:01:40
they have cases that they can tell us yeah we're we're pretty sure we know who did this the perpetrator we believe uh
01:01:50
that did this is has been dead for some time and so we we got other cases we we can't devote the resources and the time
01:01:59
and the money and I get that you have other cases but when you solve a case like this when Boardman PD stands in
01:02:06
front of cameras in an audience 50 over 50 years later in the Brad Bolino case and closes it out and tells us who did
01:02:17
it and he died years ago what that says to people in that community and everywhere watching and listening that
01:02:26
you cannot come into our city and kill someone and get away with it we will work this thing until it's
01:02:40
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