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foreign [Music] [Music] we all are Someone's Child many of us have children of Our Own
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we raise our children and do the very best that we can to help them to grow up to be good and
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kind A wise man once told me that you cannot be too hard on your children that you also cannot be their best
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friend and it's a parent's Duty to raise their children up to be good citizens and to do so your role as a parent
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fall somewhere right in the middle of disciplinarian and best friend this week's subject is a missing
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person's case here our missing person was really just starting to come of age in this young
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man's life was really just starting to take shape no longer was he a boy he was becoming a man
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with dreams goals and responsibilities all of his own he was becoming a good contributing
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member of society he was a good citizen just as his parents had raised him to be
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Gregory Keith Mann Jr was 20 years old when he went missing recently he had moved into his own
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apartment not terribly far from his parents house he was striking out on his own with a
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new job that could turn into a career and a fiance who had just finished College
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he went by his middle name Keith Gregory Mann was his father's name and so to friends family and colleagues
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he was Keith but with all of these new beginnings in Keith's life there was so much more going on and so
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many more moving pieces I'm sure Keith was looking forward to things settling down soon
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and settling into his adult life and the life that he was building and the love that he and his fiancee
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would build together who is to say what would have come of any of this Keith's relationship or his new job
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we don't know and very sadly I say we will never know Keith disappeared sometime between the
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hours of midnight and 6 A.M a May 11 1997. this after returning to his apartment in
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Wichita Falls Texas he's never been heard from again the Wichita Falls Times Record News
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covered the case extensively over the years newspaper coverage in a case that no one
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could have anticipated would go unsolved and unresolved for 25 years now I'll read you portions of one of the
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very first news articles in Key's case the headline was simple and to the point and read police searching for Wichita
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Falls man the article reads police are searching for a 20 year old man was last seen Saturday night at the
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fountain Gate Apartments Barnett Road friends dropped Keith Mann Jr off in the parking lot of the apartment complex
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around midnight it's not been seen since police Lieutenant Laura Arnold said authorities have no evidence of
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Foul Play when he was last seen Keith was wearing an ivory colored shirt blue jeans and a
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beige baseball hat Keith was driving a 1994 red Mustang with dealer tags days prior to his
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disappearance the vehicle was found early Sunday morning in a parking lot next to his
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parents house anyone with information should contact the Criminal investigation's Division of
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the Wichita Falls Police Department now notice in that report it is stated that the authorities have no evidence of
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Foul Play that does not mean that Foul Play was not suspected as with most cases theories change
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sometimes overnight sometimes no evidence can become evidence of a different kind just with
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the passing of time the question of Foul Play In this case whether or not it should be suspected
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changed rather quickly and make no mistake about it today as the case stands Foul Play is
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very much suspected because if it were not for someone or what seems more probable someone's out
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there well then Keith would still be here with us now still working on those dreams goals and
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responsibilities today probably fulfilling some of them over the years and creating new ones as he
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grew while it saddens me to report that we are coming up on 25 years now the Keith
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has been missing I am hopeful that for Keith's family and his real true friends that soon we may have some answers
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you see this is not a Cold Case sure it's been a little chilly over the years but not cold and never frigid
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Wichita Falls Police Department have worked the case hard and intelligently over the years
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detectives have managed to stir up several good leads every so often keep the case alive
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this case is very active and with the 25-year anniversary of the day that this young man went missing
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approaching us on the calendar the case is heating up once again with renewed interest from everyone
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including law enforcement and the media we here at True Crime garage are very happy to be a part of that renewed
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interest and awareness in Keith's case we sincerely hope and pray that us talking about this case here in the
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garage this week well in some way big or small help to get much needed and deserved answers
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for a grieving family there are many in the Wichita Falls Community they have never forgotten about Keith
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Mann Jr including the police department the current detective working the case told us guys let me be clear this is a
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very open and active police investigation I am also happy to report that the reward for information in this case is
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increasing with the 25-year anniversary suspects and Witnesses are being interviewed again
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leads are being chased and the tips that are sure to come pouring in will be followed up on
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personally I firmly believe and have reason to believe that not only does more than one person know what happened
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to Keith it's likely more than one person played a role in Keith's disappearance
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I am looking forward to what new information May Come and I believe one day murder charges
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will be issued in this case this week we are featuring The unsolved case of Keith Mann Jr who has been
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missing from Wichita Falls Texas since May of 1997. this is True Crime garage [Music]
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thank you this week we find ourselves once again in the great state of Texas for another
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True Crime Story just won a missing person's case now 25 years old out of Wichita Falls with the
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population of right of around 100 000 people Wichita Falls is located in the northern portion of Texas not far from
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the state line in fact Wichita Falls is only about 15 minutes south of the Oklahoma Texas border
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our story takes place back in 1997. now before we go through the details leading
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up to Keith's disappearance we need to go through some background information in this case Keith Mann Jr was born on
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February 19 1977. so at the time of his disappearance he was just 20 years old as a little kid Keith was a Sweet Child
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and his love of sports came at a young age he loved Sports of any kind he also fell in love with motorcycles when he
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was a little older Keith's mother and father did not live together and Keith lived with his mother
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when he was little when he would go visit his dad they had little mini bikes and the two of them would spend the day
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riding around town for hours the summer before ninth grade he decided to live with his dad and stepmom and go
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to high school some of this decision for Keith wanting to live with his father is
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obviously to become closer with his dad and his stepmom but some of this decision came about because of the
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baseball program at the high school where his father lived Keith loved baseball and was not ready to give up on
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baseball he did not want for high school to be the last of his baseball playing days and the high school near his
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father's home had a good baseball program good enough that some of the kids that played on that team would go
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on to play at the Collegiate level so Keith made the difficult decision to change schools at an age when many have
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no desire to do so he was now living in Wichita Falls Texas with his father and stepmother he
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attended Ryder High School where he got good grades and excelled on the ball field Keith played baseball loved Sports
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and was very active in school but it seems like baseball was his primary focus Keith was good enough at baseball that
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he earned a scholarship when he graduated from Ryder High School back in 1995 Keith went on to attend North
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Central Texas Junior College on that scholarship this college is about an hour and a half away from Wichita Falls
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yes North Central Junior College is located in Gainesville Texas Now Keith went to that college for one year where
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he was very well liked and seemed to have no known enemies there he played baseball but playing time was scarce and
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Keith started to seek out another change in his life but although the baseball wasn't panning
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out for him in Gainesville going off to college was not a total loss in fact far
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from it because while he was there at North Central Keith met Carrie kitchens and the two fell for each other their
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relationship would blossom into something stronger Carrie was there to play volleyball and Keith to play
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baseball so they had Sports in common as well as some mutual friends this would blossom into a boyfriend girlfriend
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relationship and while the boyfriend girlfriend relationship would continue Keith's baseball days were coming to an
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end after a year of college Keith decided to move back to Wichita Falls he moved in with his parents dad and
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stepmom and lived with them for about four months or so Keith's story is very similar to most college students that go
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away they live at College it's not working out he's coming back home to be with his family yes this will put him
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back in Wichita files which once there he's going to live with his parents from roughly January till April so this is
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all still in 1997. during that time period Keith would pick up a new job one that he liked and surprisingly he fit
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right into the position that one might not think would appeal to someone with Keith's personality so we need to give
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you a little background on his personality and this is as it's been described to us
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Keith's personality was that he was a nice young man well liked and smart however everyone says that he was shy
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and not very outgoing some of his family say Keith may have had some bouts with anxiety so when I hear those sorts of
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things it's really a surprise to me to hear that Keith took a job as a salesperson at a car dealership
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usually these are more outgoing personality types the happy-go-lucky talking types and Keith as said was a
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little more reserved and shy as his parents said according to his family Keith really liked the job he started
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this job working as a salesperson at a dealership called Ron Roberts Ford which was located in Wichita Falls Keith
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started working there approximately eight weeks before he vanished and as said Keith liked the job he was fitting
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in and more importantly he was selling cars so he had some success three weeks after he started working at
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Ron Roberts Ford and after showing some success and good work ethic Keith was eligible for the dealership's demo
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program this is a kind of commonplace practice where the dealership will allow employees to sign out vehicles and drive
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them after work hours well even though he was shy I mean the nice thing about working on a car dealership is the
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customers are coming to you as long as you know what you're talking about you got a reason to talk
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in April of 97 Keith made another change this when he moved into an apartment of
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his own located only about a mile away from his parents place and as we said an apartment of his own
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but he would not be living there for very long all by himself because Keith and Carrie
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they've recently gotten engaged and after she was going to finish with school she was going to move in with Keith
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in fact she was scheduled to move in on May 11th this just hours after Keith went missing yeah so even though
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baseball didn't work out or college didn't work out he's back at home he finds a job he has an apartment he's
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getting engaged his girlfriend's going to move in with him he's he's starting his life I mean he's on the upswing yes
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and let's break down this timeline a little further in a recap if you will Keith starts the new job at the
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dealership in early to mid-march of 1997 then Keith moved into his apartment at the fountain gate apartment complex he
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moved into the apartment in April this apartment again is only about a mile away from his parents home so he is
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there at the apartment starting in April and remember he and Carrie recently engaged Carrie's going to be moving in
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with him on May 11th the same day that he went missing Keith went missing sometime between the hours of midnight
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after being dropped off by his friend ends in 6 a.m the next morning when the vehicle that Keith was driving was found
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abandoned Carrie his girlfriend and fiance was planning on arriving at the apartment on the afternoon of the 11th
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that same day and since she was finished with college and the two were engaged she was going to be staying at the
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apartment moving in and living there starting on that day so we have some pretty good background information
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everything leading up to the time frame that is very important here and this is the last few days before Keith vanished
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we should talk about Foul Play though Captain because we brought it up in the trailer and we've touched on it a little
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bit and I want to get into this before we get into the more detailed timeline of the days leading up to his
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disappearance because I don't want there to be a foul play versus no foul play debate
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going forward so the earliest news article says police have found no evidence of Foul Play this is just the
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article that comes out a couple days after he's missing however if you were to ask his family and we did
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they will tell you that Keith didn't just up and walk away from his life and his family they did say that with Keith
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and the fiance moving in together at the same weekend that he went missing that certainly was an early suspicion of
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theirs right it sounds like to me Captain the early suspicion of pretty much everyone including law enforcement
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was that maybe he had gotten cold feet and decided that he didn't want to get married or didn't want to live together
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and so that he would just kind of go away for a little bit giving her the hint that maybe this isn't going to work
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out or hey I've had a change of mind but as the days went on they very quickly his family and law
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enforcement changed their suspicions of that to actually we think that there was Foul
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Play involved because Keith is not here anymore and so one thing we should give a little background on is that remember
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we said Keith and his Keith's mother and father didn't live together Keith's father remarried when he was
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only two years old his mother lives all the way in New Mexico and when Keith was a little boy he would
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live with his mom and visit his father his father lived in New Mexico when he was a little boy with his new stepmother
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at some point dad and stepmom moved to Wichita Falls Texas we know that this is before Keith went off to high school
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because he gets his eye on that high school with the good baseball program in Dad's neighborhood all the way in
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Wichita Falls Texas and decides hey I'm going to move out there and live with Dad and my stepmom Deborah so the
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thought here Captain was that maybe he gets cold feet about the fiance moving in decides maybe he doesn't want to be
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engaged anymore what have you and maybe he ran off to mom's house in New Mexico you know anybody that has parents that
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live separate homes and especially this far away from one another you kind of have a safe haven to retreat to should
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things not be going your way right so very quickly what they're able to do is they're able to kind of to squash those
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suspicions by first contacting his mother I've not seen him I've not heard from him he's not staying with me as the
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response they get and when they don't have any confirmation of Keith being anywhere
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else other than where he should be at that apartment and then going off to his job just like he would on any other
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Ordinary Day their suspicions from well no foul play to Foul Play shift rather quickly like
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you said by not being there maybe it scares off your fiance but not showing up to work
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now you could potentially lose your job which then would cause you to lose your apartment as well so you're basically
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everything that you've just built in this last year you're going to be wiping the Slate clean and starting all over
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the thing here too Captain is we have that statement by police early on that says we have no evidence of Foul Play
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the scary thing is when your suspicion changes of well he there must have been Foul Play because he's not with us he's
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disappeared somebody must be responsible for whatever happened to him well the scary part is then you start going okay
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we have no evidence of Foul Play because either a someone did a really good job of
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covering up what they had done or be we don't know where and when the foul play occurred
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so we don't know where to look for the evidence of Foul Play Let's dive into the timeline and events that led to The
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Disappearance right so we've covered the months and weeks leading up to The Disappearance but now we're going to go
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into the actual days leading up to it and of course the major time frame that we are going to be concerned with and
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Keith's disappearance is the window that we have referenced but will once again emphasize here
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that is starting at approximately 11 45 p.m on Saturday night and then goes until 6 a.m Sunday morning
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when we know his vehicle was already parked and abandoned at that parking spot near his parents home and we'll get into
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those details now so on Thursday May 8th what we have here plain and simple Ordinary Day
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Keith goes to work and then he drives to his parents home in Wichita Falls his apartments in Wichita Falls as well
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about a mile away he drops by the parents house he parks on the street according to his family this is this
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will be key information later so make note of that on that Thursday May 8th he parks on the street and his mom and dad
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say that he is driving a pickup truck that day remember he's a part of this dealership demo program so he will
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regularly be driving different Vehicles he can take Vehicles whatever vehicle his manager will allow him to sign out
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right for that day so they say on that day he dropped by the house briefly before going to his apartment for the
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night he was driving a pickup truck and he parked on the street on Friday May 9th his girlfriend and fiance Carrie had
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just graduated from Junior College where they had met your mom goes to college so
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he goes and his parents go to the graduation ceremony followed by a dinner remember the college is an hour
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and a half away and we have Keith who drives separately and we have his parents who take their
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vehicle they all drive out to Wichita Falls and it's kind of like Convoy style right they're they're traveling
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separately but they're basically following each other there and following each other back
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so they have dinner they go to the graduation and then they return back to Wichita Falls at some point during the
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return trip they say that you know Keith has to go his separate way to his apartment and
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they continue on to their home this will unfortunately be the last time that his
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parents his dad Gregory Keith Mann and his stepmother Deborah man would see Keith one thing that I found weird here
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Captain was it's my understanding that one of Keith's sisters he had younger sisters
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one of his sisters at least one of them rode with him to the graduation right so
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they're in the car for roughly an hour and a half together and later his sister I believe she was about 12 or so said
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that he seemed distracted that whole night to her and it's my understanding that she did not ride home
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with them because she would go home with her parents and we know that they went their separate ways at some point on
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that trip home this leads us to Saturday May 10th and this will be the key day here to really pay attention to all of
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these movements so the story has always been this remember he's employed at that
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Ron Roberts Ford at that time it was located on Jacksboro Highway in Wichita Falls this is back in
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97. he reported for work on that Saturday May 10th and he had a good day he sold two vehicles
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Keith had plans to deliver one of the vehicles on Monday dealership allowed him to drive home a
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vehicle for the night and Keith selected a red 1996 Ford Mustang and requested a
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gasoline voucher as he did not have any cash at the time It is believed that he filled the car's
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tank after leaving work that evening at 9 00 PM using the voucher Keith returned
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to his residence at the fountain Gate Apartments on Barnett Road he spoke to his fiancee on the telephone and this
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has always been reported to be around 9 30 p.m that evening Keith told her that his friends were picking him up to go
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out for the evening remember Keith and Carrie plan to meet the following day as she was moving in to bring everybody up
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to speed here Carrie already has a key to the apartment so Keith from my understanding wasn't going to start the
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lease on the apartment until May 1st but it was one of those situations where the
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previous occupants had moved out early landlord calls up Keith and says hey the apartments available whenever you want
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it and he decided to move in early so he moved in sometime in April Well Carrie still away at College she's spending her
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some of the time on her weekends driving items and personal belongings of hers to
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the apartment and so she's already loading things into the apartment during the weekends leading up to his
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disappearance and plan to move in permanently on May 11th the following day we should point out that Carrie was
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with her family in Dallas Fort Worth on this Saturday they I believe they attended a concert this was all still
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part of the celebration of her graduation her parents were really treating her to a nice weekend
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so he's at his apartment and it's always been reported that they spoke on the phone that night around 9 30 that
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evening pay attention to these times Keith and his two friends remember he's going to go out and these two friends
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are Chris and Chris's fiance Michelle they pick up Keith at his apartment Keith works with Chris and I've seen it
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reported that Michelle worked at the dealership as well I'm not certain if that's 100 accurate
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but I've seen it reported that way we know before 100 that Chris his buddy worked at Ron Roberts Ford as well after
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picking him up they stopped at a Fina gas station this was located on Mcneil Avenue this
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is kind of a busy Road in Wichita Falls the business security camera videotape shows them go inside the store at 10 pm
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and we also know that Keith was there because he uses his fiance's Fina credit card at the gas station to buy some
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snacks right Chris was older remember Keith is only 20 so he's not old enough to buy beer
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but Chris he's a little bit older I think two years older than Keith so he's going to buy some beer for
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the group after this they visited a McDonald's restaurant before going mudding in one of the dealership's cars
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that Chris had borrowed for the evening this is kind of a weird part of the story right because what we're going to
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have here Captain is Keith will vanish shortly after hanging out with these two friends so we really
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should put everything they say and all of their movements under a microscope as we're going through this timeline here
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and part of this timeline is Chris and Michelle saying that we are going mudding
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what I found weird about this is that they were borrowing a vehicle from the dealership to go mudding in that
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doesn't seem incredibly responsible sounds like something the captain would do it sounds like you're setting
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yourself up to do damage to the vehicle and you're either going to have to pay out of pocket or lose your job or both
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but again they're all in their early 20s and it sounds like something people would do in their early 20s just not
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well thought out some people do some dumb stuff I've got dumb stuff planned for this evening after they went mudding
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now Chris wants to clean off the vehicle right so they go to a car wash where they're going to hose it down and during
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this time period it's always been reported that Keith says to Chris and Michelle that he needed to go home soon
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because he was meeting someone at 12 15 am there's some debate on what happens here
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because it's always been reported that Keith did not mention the person's name or the location of the meeting or why
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they were meeting to to begin with yeah very suspicious very creepy part of the story his friends drop him off and Chris
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and Michelle say that they saw Keith walk up the stairs toward his apartment at approximately 11 45 PM that night but
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they did not see Keith enter his residence he has never been heard from again [Music]
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[Music] all right we are back to the windows to the walls cheers to everybody out there cheers to
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you Colonel cheers to you Captain if we were 20 years younger we would pick up some beers and go mudding tonight yeah
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done and done done and done all right uh so go ahead so Thursday he goes to work
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he has a loaner car he visits his parents on Friday they go to this graduation drive separate vehicles on Saturday he
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goes to work sells some cars and he goes out with his friends and they drop him off at his apartment
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around midnight how many individuals were there when they dropped him off from my understanding it's Chris and
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Michelle that are dropping him off the same two that picked him up the same two that he went to the gas station
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McDonald's and mudding with right and add a little more detail here but we have okay so it's reported that Chris he's on
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the dealerships demo program as well and so he signed out a black Nissan Pathfinder this is an SUV especially in
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these days you get an SUV every young man is excited to take it off-roading weather all these years later we learned
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that most of them are not built to go off-roading but they get this Pathfinder and they go
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mudding and according to the information I have here Captain is that they went to
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a place behind Memorial Stadium and they went mudding for approximately 45 minutes and it's my understanding
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that this is a well-lit area it's also a common area that people back then would
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take vehicles and go off-roading with them they washed the vehicle at a local car wash on the way home and then Keith
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at some point has told them I'm meeting someone at 12 15 does not say who he's meeting or where or why seems pretty
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late to be meeting somebody it's very late but he's 20 years old he's been in his first apartment on his own for
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six weeks you know people's hours get real weird when they don't live with Mom and Dad for the first few weeks now or
00:36:00
somebody could be dropping just dropping by to see the apartment or dropping something off for his apartment so to be
00:36:08
clear here though as far as law enforcement is concerned it's always been reported in the public
00:36:15
that Keith never said who he was meeting it almost paints a picture of he was trying
00:36:22
to hide something [Music] trying to be secretive about something however law enforcement has told
00:36:30
us and told a couple of other people that that's a little unclear to them because when asking Chris and Michelle
00:36:39
to recount the knights events both of them seem to want to try to recall a name almost like Keith had told them a
00:36:48
name but they just couldn't remember it so we could just assume that maybe it was an individual that they just didn't
00:36:55
know someone they didn't know what I think is clear here though is they didn't know the location or the reason
00:37:02
for the meeting Keith may have said someone's name he may have not if you told me if we're hanging out at the bar
00:37:09
and I go to drop you off at your house that you have to meet somebody but it was somebody that I wasn't familiar with
00:37:16
I probably am less likely to remember their name but if you said oh you know our buddy Todd or our buddy Paul I'm
00:37:23
going to meet them well I'd remember that when they drop him off when they drop Keith off at his apartment they
00:37:32
drop him in the parking lot and he has to walk up the steps to his apartment they say that they see him going up the
00:37:40
steps but do not see him enter the apartment however when he gets out of the Pathfinder
00:37:47
remember they picked up beers earlier that night at the gas station yeah b w r u n Beer Run he took three of the beers
00:37:55
with him and this will be key because there's obvious signs later that he made it into his apartment and one of the
00:38:05
obvious signs is those three beers are later found on the counter inside of the apartment yeah it seems
00:38:13
like pretty solid evidence the tricky thing here though is when they find the three beers two are full and not open
00:38:20
and one of them has been open in his almost uh get gone or it's half full and so
00:38:27
I don't know you can make what you want out of that but it appears to me like he
00:38:31
cracked open a beer continued to sip on it and at some point was interrupted or left before we get into too much
00:38:38
speculation let's get into Sunday May 11th the next day Keith's parents noticed the Ford Mustang that he had
00:38:45
borrowed from work this is why we went into the detail of him parking on the street when he went to his family's
00:38:52
house on that Thursday that's key to me because Keith's parents noticed the Ford
00:38:57
Mustang that he borrowed from work in a church parking lot near their home this is near the 4300 block of Mcneil
00:39:07
Avenue they noticed this vehicle there during the morning hours of May 11th remember he's last seen
00:39:15
just before midnight on May 10th now I want to be clear here at this point when they see this vehicle there
00:39:23
not fully aware that it's Keith's vehicle remember he can drive home a different
00:39:29
vehicle each night right this church is located very close to their home and I don't have the exact distance from their
00:39:39
home to this church parking lot where this vehicle was found but I know that it's close enough in
00:39:45
distance that the family has said we could see that parking spot regardless of what car or vehicle was parked there
00:39:52
we could see that parking spot from at least one window in our home so rather close to their home
00:39:59
and this is important because this was a parking spot that Keith used to use he used this parking spot when he was in
00:40:08
high school he would use it when he would come from college and visit for the weekend or stay the night with his
00:40:15
parents this is because this parking spot was close enough that he could park the car
00:40:19
in that spot and walk to their home and leave the vehicle there now weeks before remember he went and
00:40:28
moved back in with Mom and Dad before moving into the apartment right and it sounds like he was using that same
00:40:34
parking spot during that time period what happened was the church gets a new pastor
00:40:42
and the pastor tells Keith's parents hey I don't want your son using our pop our parking lot
00:40:50
anymore and his parents attend church there so his dad of course is saying hey son
00:40:57
the the new guy doesn't want you to park your car in there in their lot anymore don't park there and we know that that
00:41:05
conversation took place based off of several factors but one piece of evidence of that is that he parked the
00:41:12
truck on that Thursday in front of his parents house on the street so very weird that this mustang is found in this
00:41:20
parking spot that he used to use a lot number one and number two it would be some time
00:41:27
later that they would figure out that it was Keith's vehicle so what happens is we have the First on record publicly
00:41:36
citing of this Ford Mustang in that parking spot around 6 a.m this is when Keith's father goes out to get the
00:41:45
newspaper from their driveway later that day they went to church his dad and stepmom go to church well isn't
00:41:53
that special and after the services this is around noon they noticed that that vehicle was still there well it kind of
00:42:01
piqued their interest so they went over and looked at it and they could tell that it was a vehicle from Ron Roberts
00:42:09
Ford dealership and it's also the parking spot that there's on parks in right so it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes
00:42:16
to put two and two together here to equal four they figure all right well we told Keith not to use this spot anymore
00:42:23
this is a Mustang a loaner car from Ron Roberts Ford he must have parked it here
00:42:28
yeah they're probably thinking that son of a [ __ ] never listens to me and we're
00:42:31
gonna get in trouble with the pastor now well this might have raised the red flag
00:42:36
or two but it didn't really sound off any alarms for the parents again he had used this spot plenty of times in the
00:42:42
past and they thought maybe he had just parked it there somebody picked him up that night and just saw him a couple
00:42:50
days ago it right and that he just left the vehicle there for whatever reason I'm sure they were probably going to
00:42:56
give him the what for for parking there now what raises the red flag though is about an hour or so later when Keith's
00:43:04
fiance Carrie calls his parents this is roughly in the one o'clock hour one in the afternoon
00:43:12
she calls and she says hey I've been at the apartment for a while Keith is not here remember she has her
00:43:20
own Keys she's been moving things in periodically Keith is not here there's some beers on the counter
00:43:29
which is weird he would have put them in the fridge there's some dirty clothes in
00:43:33
the bathroom on the floor and when I arrived the door was locked his car there was no car here which
00:43:43
you know she wouldn't she likely would not have known what vehicle he was driving either but maybe they had a
00:43:48
designated parking spot and she said that his bed was still made it looked like no one had slept in it by the time
00:43:55
that she had arrived and she had been there for some time and she was starting to get worried so she called initially
00:44:01
called his parents just to see if he was at their house well there's so many questions because
00:44:08
you the first question is did somebody meet him at the apartment and they left in the in that vehicle or did he meet
00:44:17
somebody at that church yeah and so now the parents knowing that the last time they saw him was with the fiance at the
00:44:25
graduation in the graduation dinner is finding the vehicle in the church parking lot nobody being able to get a
00:44:34
hold of Keith mind you this is 97 Keith did not have a cell phone a no pager correct and so this is when we start
00:44:44
having major red flags go up and it would be on Monday May 12th that Keith's parents would officially
00:44:54
report him missing so the Sunday is pretty uneventful I mean they don't know where Keith is and his girlfriend's
00:45:03
trying to move into their apartment and it's really hard to track him down because they actually don't know what
00:45:09
vehicle he could be driving but they do see a vehicle from the car lot in a parking spot that he's known to park at
00:45:19
so let's discuss that Monday yeah and keep in mind here what we got going on right
00:45:26
for most of that Sunday once they realize that he's missing his parents for the most part just
00:45:32
believe he probably went out partying with somebody stayed up way too late crashed on somebody's couch and he's
00:45:38
just unaccounted for it's really not until that evening that Sunday evening or Sunday night that they start to
00:45:44
become worried now Carrie has an uneasy feeling right away and part of that is why she called his parents and said hey
00:45:54
just thought maybe he would be over there once she discovers that he's not there that uneasy feeling grows and now
00:46:01
she's concerned that something terrible has happened to her fiance Keith so much so that she tells Keith's
00:46:09
parents look I don't feel comfortable staying here her parents live in El Paso Texas
00:46:16
so Sunday night when he doesn't return it's either stay at this apartment or drive all the way to El Paso however she
00:46:25
contacts Keith's parents and says I don't feel safe staying at this apartment alone I don't
00:46:32
know what happened to Keith or why he is not here but it could be something terrible I could be in danger and not
00:46:38
even know it so can I stay with you and so she stays at Keith's parents house that Sunday
00:46:45
night in fact she would continue to stay there for several weeks she would go in
00:46:50
and out of the apartment on occasion but never staying there overnight as she didn't feel safe there
00:46:57
so we have Keith being officially reported missing on Monday the 12th and I keep
00:47:04
saying the word official here Captain because because you like to repeat yourself like
00:47:10
a parrot well we've been told that there was communication with the Wichita Falls
00:47:15
Police Department before an official report was filed I don't know if they told him they had to wait a certain
00:47:20
amount of time or if they said hey give us a call in the morning and we'll come come by and take a report in person but
00:47:27
for the record the official report was made on Monday May 12th now to fill in the blanks a little more on the fiance
00:47:36
you know she was going to move in and we also know that she was she already had a
00:47:42
job lined up you know she had finished college she has the new apartment new fiance she had a job lined up and she
00:47:49
was to start her job on Monday May 12th but we know that she only stays in Wichita Falls for a couple of weeks
00:47:59
after Keith goes missing now on Monday morning this is when they confirmed his parents confirmed that Keith had in fact
00:48:08
borrowed the red Mustang that they found in the parking lot they make a phone call and say hey we found this vehicle
00:48:15
here it's been left here we know that it belongs to you guys so his parents go by and take a visual
00:48:24
kind of inspection of the vehicle just so everybody's clear there is no sign of a struggle there's no sign of a crime
00:48:33
scene at his apartment correct but same goes with this mustang right there's nothing that suggests
00:48:40
that there was some kind of struggle there's no signs of blood right so when the parents find the vehicle the doors
00:48:48
to the Mustang are locked but the alarm system was never turned on for the vehicle so what they did is they
00:48:56
called the dealership hoping that somebody could come out with a second pair of keys and open up the vehicle to
00:49:02
see if maybe Keith left a note or something inside unfortunately the dealership did not
00:49:07
have a second set of keys so they had to call someone to get the you know to a locksmith to get the car doors open
00:49:17
and I guess they got the doors open rather quickly but the problem became getting the vehicle to start to turn on
00:49:25
the engine to drive the vehicle was very difficult took several hours the basic description we get of the vehicle comes
00:49:35
from his parents and what they say is it looked like the interior had been cleaned that none of Keith's property
00:49:43
was discovered inside the vehicle however there was an audio cassette that was found in the stereo I don't know if
00:49:51
this has ever been confirmed or if anybody would be able to confirm if this audio cassette was Keith's or not it
00:49:57
could have simply been left there by somebody else that borrowed the vehicle at the dealership or the previous owner
00:50:03
whatever the cassette was it's my understanding that the parents had listened to it at some point and I
00:50:10
believe that the cassette has been lost over the years again it may not be any really it may not hold really any
00:50:16
evidentiary value at all yeah the rumor was it was a weirdo Yankovic tape Another One Rides the Bus yeah but uh
00:50:25
what they do is they eventually get the vehicle back to the dealership a question for you not to cut you off here
00:50:31
but when he when you say the vehicle seemed to be clean well wouldn't the vehicle be cleaned before Keith takes it
00:50:39
off the lot anyways correct I mean this car is a car that they are trying to sell at the dealership it right it would
00:50:46
be silly for it not to be clean so it may just be as simple as he drove it home that night the dealership isn't
00:50:53
terribly far from his apartment and whoever moved it whether it be Keith or somebody else that the car was just
00:51:00
used very little between the time that it left the dealership and that it was placed in that lot meaning why
00:51:07
you wouldn't expect to find many if any of his personal belongings in the car and you would expect the car to be clean
00:51:15
right because it came from the lot now the weird thing here and this is something that I've not been able to
00:51:22
really wrap my head around on on having an opinion on if this means anything at all but what we have Captain is Chris
00:51:31
Keith's friend that worked at the dealership calls Keith's father and says hey by the way I just want to let you
00:51:39
know that when we received the vehicle back here the driver's side seat was pushed all
00:51:45
the way back and Chris was taller than Keith and said that anytime he got into a vehicle after
00:51:53
Keith did he always had to push the seat back because Keith was only five foot six inches tall according to the story
00:52:01
that we received from Keith's father is that it was Chris that made that phone call to alert them that hey this might
00:52:07
be something the car seat was pushed all the way back we do need to keep in mind though Chris
00:52:13
is receiving this information second hand himself by the action by another person that worked there that received
00:52:21
the car that checked it in what I could not find was a report or anyone with a statement of who was the person that
00:52:30
returned the vehicle to the dealership it may just be as simple as yeah it was a Big John Stud that works in the back
00:52:36
right the the car seat could have been found in a different setting than once it received the dealership right sitting
00:52:43
in that parking lot old Andre the Giant had to return the car sitting in that parking lot it could have been in a
00:52:51
setting for a shorter individual and a taller person drove it back to the dealership and that would explain that
00:52:58
or whoever placed the vehicle in the parking lot was taller than Keith Mann we were able to speak with Keith's
00:53:06
parents Gregory man and Deborah Mann and get some further insights into Keith's still unsolved case here we
00:53:15
asked them to explain to us the emotional toll that this has taken on them and their family but yeah we missed
00:53:22
out on a lot and and also I think it just the repercussions you know it caused a lot of things to be different
00:53:29
by us going through this all these years um it really affected our daughters um they probably
00:53:38
grew up differently than what they would have because one was like in sixth grade
00:53:43
the other one was probably like in fourth so you know we got real protective of them
00:53:48
you know we didn't want them you know going anywhere without us or you know even playing out out front in
00:53:56
the front yard you know we were scared we didn't know what this had to do with and we had a lot of people you know
00:54:03
would go down our street and kind of drive real slow and be looking at our house but we didn't know if you know
00:54:08
that was just you know onlookers or if that was somebody that was involved and so you know we're real kind of
00:54:14
protective of them and um they probably didn't do some of the stuff that they they would have if this
00:54:21
hadn't happened and you know we really didn't feel like going on family vacations or you know it was just we all
00:54:28
turned depressed and we just kind of really didn't know how to deal with it because it at the time
00:54:33
you know we couldn't say 100 oh it's a death so you know you were mourning we're going through the you know the
00:54:40
five stages of grief or you know whatever we couldn't really say that because we were hoping he's still alive
00:54:45
and you know um it's taken all these years now and going on the 25th anniversary was like
00:54:52
well you know it doesn't sound like he is still alive that something had to have
00:54:57
happened at the very beginning but because we didn't have any facts on it we couldn't we couldn't mourn properly
00:55:05
or we couldn't deal with it and um like I said it really affected the whole our family Dynamics and you know how our
00:55:12
life would have been different you feel like you're stuck in 1997. uh life hasn't really gone on so
00:55:23
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