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[Music] [Music] crime [Music] [Applause] the following is taken from letters written and sent by inmate number
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27089 six Joseph Roy methany while serving two life sentences without the possibility of
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parole you have always asked me if I have any remorse for what I have done nope I sleep just
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fine I did most of those sorry pieces of [ __ ] a favor they had one foot in the coffin
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and another on a banana peel long before they ran into me the first time I took a life I was
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scared shitless I was only 15 years old I had tried to get this little 12-year-old girl to notice me but she
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never would school let out for the day and I followed her home I had done this several times
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before she would cut through this little patch in the woods well one day her luck ran out for
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that was the day that I killed her I experienced a lot of first that day she was my first
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kill she was also my first rape I ran up behind her and grabbed her and pulled her into those
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woods I pushed her on the ground and told her to take her clothes off she was a little slow so I helped her by ripping
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them off I beat and raped her for 2 hours then I stood up till to look at what I had
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done she was holding herself and crying she was dirty and bloody there was a big rock lying about
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3 ft from me I picked it up and started bashing in her head with it I dug a shallow grave
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and I buried her and that is where she is resting to this day that same rock that I killed her
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with is her headstone that happened back in September of 1970 I used to walk back into those
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woods many times when I was in the area just to check on her when I was a kid I used to tear my
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toys apart just to see what was inside of them I used to get off on hurting things it started with bugs just seeing
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what would happen when you pull the legs or Wings off then I move to animals when you kill someone it feels
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like time stops and goes in slow motion you get excited and the adrenaline starts
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pumping then when the life drains from your victim it becomes very quiet and you stand there gazing down at
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what you have done reality comes back to you and then you get scared and you don't know what
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to do most will run away from the scene the best way to handle the situation is to try and hide the body
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until you can take a little time and calm yourself down when it gets dark get a shovel a
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couple of trash bags and a bag of lime now dig a hole 3 to 4 ft will work line the bottom of the hole with
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trash bags strip the body of all the clothing and jewelry and put put that in a trash bag to take with you and throw
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away somewhere else far away now take the bag of lime pour some all over the bottom of the hole and then
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place the body in the hole now pour the rest of the bag of lime all over the body then take the shovel fill in the
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hole your first kill is the hardest anything else after that is like swatting flies and stepping on bugs
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you will have no feelings at all yes I was young when I took the life away from that sweet little 12- year-
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old redhead girl I was her first and I was her last she's been lying out there in those
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woods in a shallow grave cold and naked for 37 years now when I was in the outside world I
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would buy Six beers each year and go sit beside her grave and drink them and think about what I had done at that very
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spot on September 19th 1970 anyone else would have probably started feeling remorse and would have
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probably started crying at that grave but not me every year when I would go out there I would do the same
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thing I would relive the murder in my mind and then I would pick up my beer cans and I would go
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home that's the big difference between me and people like you I had a lot of bad things happen to
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me when I was very young and I learned to block it out over the years but in reality all that did was make me hollow
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inside in some ways that's a good thing for when you no longer have a conscience
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or the ability to care you don't have emotions or feelings and no one can hurt you anymore
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more I sure as hell I'm no one special in fact I am damn far from it I'm nothing more than what life has
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made me I have made a lot of decisions in my life and it's sad to say most of those decisions were wrong
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ones I am not proud of the murders I did out there well to tell you the truth maybe I am a little proud of what I did
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I was a hard worker a truck driver forklift operator but it seems the best thing I
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ever learned how to do is take the life of another away from them there was several people that I killed that one
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might say that I feel bad about but most of them were living on borrowed time I feel I may have done most of
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those drug addicted crack [ __ ] a favor I definitely help them to get off of drugs these are the words of convicted
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serial killer Joseph Roy [Music] methany Joseph Roy methany you heard me just describe him
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as a serial killer Captain you and I were talking about something the other day I thought it was an interesting
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conversation the old school thought was that to be a serial killer you had to have killed three different people at
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three different times kind of the new school of thought is that a serial killer is somebody that kills two people
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yeah at two separate times um you had a feeling that you uh to to be lumped into
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that group you you're more of the old school of thought that you the three number three or more killings yeah but
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but what I can tell you is if you kill one person person you get put in the category of real piece of [ __ ] well
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whether you're of the school of thought of three or more killings makes a serial
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killer or two or more right Joe methany kind of I mean you can't get any closer to three or more than what he did he was
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convicted of two killings plus an attempted uh attack that he did on a girl that he got 50 years for the
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problem with Joe though is he would confess to many more throughout the course of his life and
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actually you heard in the first trailer where he talked about a cold case that of a woman he had killed when he was a
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truck driver in this last trailer to this show you hear him talk about his first kill of when he was only a
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teenager himself killing a 12-year-old girl that he had followed into the woods and pulled her into the woods and this
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confession actually hasn't been proven true or false correct uh neither has the confession that he made to killing the
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woman when he was a truck driver we'll get back into that in a little bit because where we finished up yesterday
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was covering his trials well his second trial he was convicted and as we said he
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kind of went crazy telling the jury a bunch of horrible things that that he did to his victims well he gets
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sentenced to death in that trial and his lawyer is going to appeal the death sentence that Joe received now this
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would be appealed several times and this thing went pretty far up the chain from
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my understanding before they overturned his death sentence one of the deciding judges had this to say about overturning
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the decision I do agree that the sentence of death in this case must be vacated Mr methany if the record in the
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statement he gave at his sentencing hearing are accurate he is a Serial murderer as such he is the ultimate
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characterization of evil there may well be many sincere proponents of the death penalty who would hold a position that
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death would be an appropriate penalty for Mr meth's actions the legislature however has not established serial
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murder as a death qualified offense and other words a person who commits two or more murders during one incident can be
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sentenced to death but a person who commits one murder a month for 12 months before he is apprehended making him a
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Serial murderer cannot be sentenced to death in my view this is the judge's view the real reason the death sentence
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was sought in this case is that Mr methany was a heinous serial murderer because serial murder is not a death
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qualified offense in this state the state of Maryland right the prosecution sought the death penalty on the premise
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that Mr methany robbed the victim when he buried the victim's clothing and purse separate from her body this
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strategy which was successfully employed by the state in the Circuit Court stretches Maryland's death penalty
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statute beyond the scope of intended but what was intended by the legislature well ah yeah but this is the problem is
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the justice system you know whether it's in this country or other countries there's some really stupid things there
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are um and you know unfortunately that judge has to just uphold the laws in his state as they are created yeah um and
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and I think he did that in my opinion in this case as much as I would have liked
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to have seen you know I've I've come out on here and said certain people do deserve the death penalty I'm not I'm
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not saying that I'm for it at all times but I think this Joe methany is a real monster and I don't know that there's
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any value in just holding him somewhere right but it's it's ridiculously stupid right it's stupid bid to think that you
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know oh you killed two people at one time you deserve the death penalty you killed 400 people in four days one at a
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time yeah separate times oh you you just you hey we'll give you five years you know I I don't know it's just ridiculous
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right right um I want to give before we go through some of his confessions and some information that
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Joe would provide to us cuz I want to look at those and I want you and I to take a look at him and determine which
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ones at what times do we think he's telling the truth and at what times do we think that he's lying because you
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have a guy here that's been convicted to multiple murders but he would ultimately
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go on to confess to like 10 different murders and it's very possible that he has done some or all of these well he
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lived a nomadic life and plus he had some nomadic jobs being a Long Hall trucker but I want to give a little
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further back background on Joe methany so we have a little insight into who he is and possibly how he became such an
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evil monstrous person mhm so we had to we going to dig a little deeper and see what else we can find because there is
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more here let's talk about meth's police record prior to these this attempted rape and the two murder convictions so
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meth's criminal record showed nothing more than you know nothing more serious than common assault drunk and disorderly
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conduct and an occasional barroom fight right common assault on who um I don't have the information on who the
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victims of these these uh I bet money some of that is females it's possible but he could also have common assault
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charges stemming from barroom fights right um but so the thing here is we don't see
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anything in his background po pointing towards this you know escalated behavior of this attempted rape and the two
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murders but what is not on his record his record will not show this this is something we have to discuss this is
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from an event that took place in 1995 Joe was charged with killing two 33-year-old homeless men this is Randall
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Brewer and Randy [ __ ] the court records stated that the motive for the double homicide was a supposed Turf dispute
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between rival homeless camps mhm I didn't know such things existed uh both men both of the randies the the victims
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had been mauled with a wood Cutter's axe that methany kept under a rotting sofa at his Patapsco area camp ultimately Joe
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methany was acquitted of the murders in Baltimore Circuit Court get this the um the jurors sent the judge a note during
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deliberations yeah if you like me Circle yes if you don't Circle no I always put
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a maybe on there too just in case I want a I want a hard answer tell it to me straight judge do
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you love me or you not are you going to take me to the eighth grade dance or not
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judge that's what I want to know I would like to go to fr's Big Boy uh the the letter the note that they sent to the
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judge during deliberations suggested that they thought that another homeless man other than Joe was responsible for
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the killings okay so I bring that up because we were talking about other things that Joe may have confessed to
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and if in fact he did the other murders that he's confessing to well methany would later claim that he in fact did
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commit these killings that he did kill these two homeless men after a night of drinking beer okay well and we also know
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like we said before we know that he was homeless at a time we know he lived in like Tent City so is it you know that
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puts him in that kind of community right and was he defending himself or defending him Turf I don't know I'm not
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going to give this scumbag any excuses so well I can give you his uh confession to those murders if you'd like to hear
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it nah well I'll just show I we we need we need to include it in the show um so this is strange though
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Captain because where this confession comes from is apparently Joe was paid $300 and it's been reported I haven't
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been able to figure out which website paid him $300 but a website offered him $300 to confess to um some other murders
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they had they had at some point spoke with him and he had said you know I've killed other people and I'm sure there
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was some negotiating going back and forth trying to get this information for their website I found this confession on
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multiple websites so I don't know who out of those paid him I'm not going to get into that I think it's weird to be
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paying these guys anything when they're locked up anyway yeah but this is Joe meth's words and he says to start out I
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will tell you about myself at the present moment which is locked up I am 48 years old I weigh about 450 lb and
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it's not all fat I've been locked up for almost 8 years now but when one has been sentenced to a
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couple life sentences without parole time doesn't matter anymore I have no problem with being locked up for no one
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put me here but myself and I deserve to be right where I'm at cuz I had 12 law-abiding jurors that told me
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so I was only convicted of two murders and one kidnapping for The One That Got Away I got 50 years for her her the
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first murder I was sentenced to life without parole the second one they gave me the death penalty I sat on Marilyn's
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Death Row for 3 years and then they overturned my sentence and gave me another life without parole and sent me
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down here for the rest of my life I killed seven people Three Men and four women two men I chopped up with an axe
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under a bridge in South Baltimore I was found not guilty for them cuz they couldn't prove did it under that same
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bridge I also killed two women and one man who was fishing who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time
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I weighed their bodies down and I put them in that River I showed the police where I put them about 3 years later but
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they couldn't find them so they could not charge me for those murders my murder Rampage started out as Revenge
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but ended up as a passion for the taste of blood and the overwhelming sense of power one gets from taking the life of
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another it started back in July of 1994 I was at work I was a truck driver I was working overtime this one night
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then I got off and I went home as I always did but when I opened the door and turned on the light I noticed that
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there was nothing there my old lady had taken everything including my son and left me her leaving was not my problem
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but she took my six-year-old son with her she was a crack addict I would have paid her to get out of my life all she
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had to do was take my son to my mother's house and she could have had everything
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else and be gone I found out about 6 months later she had moved on the other side of town with some guy that had her
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selling herself for drugs they got busted and they took my son away from them for child neglect and child
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abuse I had no chance of going to Social Services and trying to get my son back due to my past criminal record so I took
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it upon myself with the hatred I had for these two who had lost my son to go looking for them I had found out from
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someone that they was living under a bridge and getting high with some homeless guys who lived under that
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bridge I went under there looking for them they were not there but the two homeless guys they got high with were
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down there they were passed out on some old stinking mattress and that is where I left them except they were dead from
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being chopped up that same night I lured a crack addicted woman under the bridge I got
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her high and I was trying to get information out of her about where my old lady was she acted like she didn't
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know so I beat the hell out of her raped and killed her I put her in some bushes
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and I went and I lured a second woman down there I did the same to her as the the last one but as I was about to throw
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her in the bushes with the other one I noticed an old man down by the river fishing looking back up at me I grabbed
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a steel pipe that was laying by and I ran down on him and I laid his head wide open so I put the two girls and him in
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the river and weighed them down with rocks that was a very busy night for me five murders within 7 hours I washed up
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in the river and I cleaned up the crime scene as much as I could then I left 2 and 1/2 Weeks Later I was arrested in
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charge with the murders of two men that I had chopped up I spent close to 18 months in Baltimore City Jail waiting to
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go to trial the trial lasted 1 week and it was thrown out of court because of lack of evidence I was free again I went
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back and I talked to my old boss asked him to give me my old job back at The Pallet Company there was a little
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trailer on the property so I told my boss to let me stay there there and I would keep an eye on the place he agreed
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to this and gave me the keys to the front gate in the main building the company was on a dead end road and it
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was very isolated it was perfect for what I wanted to do I lured two women up to that trailer I killed and butchered
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their bodies up I cut the meat up and I put it in some Tupperware bowls and then
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put it in the freezer I buried the remains in several shallow graves in a little woods behind the company
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over the next couple weeks on the weekends I opened up a little open pit beef stand I had real roast beef and
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pork sandwiches and why not they were very good the human body taste very similar to Pork if you mix it together
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no one can tell the difference everything was going pretty good until I ran out of my special meat so I lured
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another woman up to my trailer I got her in there and I started to rip her clothes off and knocking the hell out of
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her she was screaming but there was no one around to hear her except for me and I just kept on laughing at her I turned
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around for a split second and that was my mistake for she ran out the door before I could get to her there was a
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chain link fence with Barb Wire on top of it there was a stack of wooden pallets
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next to the fence about 10 ft high that woman scaled those pallets like a monkey
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and jumped the fence ran down to the main road where some guy picked her up well I knew the cops were on their way
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but I didn't run I gathered up her clothing grabbed the keys to the gate and I went out and opened it soon as I
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step out of the gate a cop car pulled up and the cop jumped out and pulled his gun on me and told me to get on the
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ground and that is where it all came to an end they took me down and booked me she had told them that I said I was
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going to kill her like the rest which was true they had me sitting in a little room down at homicide drilling me and
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damn near kissing my ass trying to find out what I had done they pulled me out of City Jail every day for about a month
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taking me back and forth between the company and the bridge I had them going crazy at the company digging up the
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remains cuz I had their remains buried in seven different holes the only thing I feel bad about in any of this is I
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didn't get to murder the two I was really after and that's my ex- old lady and the bastard that she got hooked up
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not related to the great jazz guitar player Pat meeni well after that confession that I just read captain that
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was posted on the internet people started calling Joe methany the cannibal killer and I've
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heard rumor that this other name was created by Joe himself he started calling himself the real life Hannibal
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Lector now I want to get into a little more of an understanding of these sandwiches
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these quote unquote sandwiches that he claims he was making using parts of his victim victims mixing with beef and pork
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and then selling them to people that he knew mhm that confession was from the internet you know somebody had paid him
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for that confession where we get this next bit of information comes from letters that he wrote to a pen pal while
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he was serving his sentence his life sentence and these letters he describes this stating that
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this all took place at or near the borderline bar that place that we know that he hung out at all the time he
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stated that he would get his paycheck cash there every Friday after work and a lot of people would go to the borderline
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on Sundays and they would walk over to meany's barbecue stand and grab a sandwich and then walk back to the
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borderline bar eat the sandwich and then wash it down with a beer while watching
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sports on TV Joe provided his pen pal with the recipe stating that he would first go
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out and look for a woman working the streets of Baltimore he is stated that these types make for the perfect victim
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as he puts it because no one seems to care about them they disappear but they are not really missing he pretty much
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had the same Mo in a lot of these cases that took place leading up to his eventual capture he would bring the
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woman back to the trailer late at night because there was really no one walking through that area his words no one could
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hear the woman screaming as he was attacking her other than him which was fine with him because he liked to hear
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them scream and like you said before he surrounded the whole trailer with piles and piles of of skids yes of the pilot
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so that probably acted as some kind of sound bear barer correct he said if he would have enough energy he would
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torture the hell out of those women now I'm not going to go into anywhere near the amount of detail that methany has
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used to describe the deaths of these poor women right but some of them he basically according to him took them to
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the woods and would field dress them like you would a deer or something that you were hunting for food he would use a
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hacksaw to remove pieces of meat that he wanted from the victim he said that he would only use the backs of the arms and
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legs he would then take the meat and he would cut it up put it in a bowl and rinse it real clean then he would fill
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the bowl with water a cup of salt and a cup of red wine then let it sit for about 4 hours then wash it one more time
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then rub it down with a little pepper and tenderizer he said he would then throw
00:34:51
it on the grill with some beef and pork meat he would mix it with the other meats and then make and sell
00:34:58
sandwiches so according to Joe methany he was not only killing these women but he was chopping them up and selling them
00:35:07
to people he knew at the borderline bar and people that would walk over to his open pit barbeq stand yeah one of the
00:35:15
many um more extravagant let's say uh confessions that this man has made and to kind of put these confessions into
00:35:25
some form into some order so we can look at him we first have the confession of his first kill when he says he's 15
00:35:33
years old and he killed the 12-year-old girl yeah then later he would state that
00:35:38
on from what I could find there was actually three separate confessions where he said that he had picked up a
00:35:47
girl working one of these truck stop lots and had killed her while he was a truck driver then later in life we know
00:35:56
that he was married mared he had his son and he went out looking for his wife who
00:36:01
had left him to kill her and ends up finding these two homeless guys kills the homeless guys and then that same
00:36:10
night he kills two girls that are working the street because he thought maybe they would know where his ex-wife
00:36:16
was yeah and then they he has to kill this guy that's fishing in the river because the guy saw him the guy saw him
00:36:24
do it and then we know that we have at least the two murders that he was convicted of and the one attack on the
00:36:31
girl while he was living at the trailer and then claiming that he was cutting up
00:36:35
the bodies and selling them as sandwiches so a lot of words coming from this guy and a lot of people have stated
00:36:44
you know what he's just a liar you know he's just he's just a scumbag that killed two women got locked up for life
00:36:51
and then just lied about all this stuff I have some questions here here I have some I have some thoughts and
00:36:59
Curiosities as to are all of these lies because a lot of these confessions that we hear from him that we see from him
00:37:09
and mind you some of these were not provided to law enforcement some of these were provided to pen pals that he
00:37:16
acquired while he was in prison or he was paid for him that's correct but a lot of these are very
00:37:24
detailed confessions so I question the validity of any of them I look at the first one when he
00:37:34
talks about his first kill when he's 15 and and the 12-year-old girl yeah now I didn't I didn't do like some super
00:37:42
digging here but looking for somebody to have gone missing to have been reported
00:37:50
missing that was approximately that age in that area at that time I couldn't find
00:37:58
anybody you know that's assuming that Joe's telling us the truth telling us the truth about the girl's age and about
00:38:05
the time yeah I think it's a partial truth you know but if he if he is telling the truth there's no one that
00:38:12
went missing at that time and with it being as he said a 12-year-old girl 12-year-old victim that's somebody that
00:38:19
I would assume to have been reported missing rather than some of some of his later victims in life may have been
00:38:26
estranged from their families and never reported missing so there doesn't seem to be any
00:38:33
indication that that in fact is true or his first kill now we do know according to his confession that he sold to the
00:38:42
website according to that confession his first kill was the two homeless men right so we have him contradicting
00:38:50
himself you said something earlier and I think you really keyed in on something that is that is very apparent here
00:38:58
regardless of when this started this murderous Rampage started for Joe methany he definitely to do the things
00:39:05
he has done he has a deep hatred for women maybe a specific kind of woman I don't know but he definitely has a deep
00:39:13
hatred for for women what what point in in his life did this start I'm not certain I can't say with any certainty
00:39:21
what I suspect here Captain is that that first kill that he says that he did to the 12-year-old girl yeah I wonder if
00:39:29
that was just a fantasy yeah that's what I believe I wonder if that was a something he had fantasized about maybe
00:39:35
even to the point where he had targeted a victim or maybe even followed this girl like he said he had
00:39:42
followed her several times just too young to go through with it yeah or or maybe he did assault her right you know
00:39:51
but just didn't kill her that one to me that confession comes off to me to be a fan fantasy where I do think that we
00:39:59
start to see some truths though are where we talk about when he was a long haul trucker out on out on the road for
00:40:08
several days or weeks at a time and he's picking up these girls that are working
00:40:13
these different lots and he's claiming that he's killed them and buried some of them now I could find three confessions
00:40:22
and throughout those three confessions talking about those types of crimes he would have had four
00:40:27
victims one of them would have been a daughter of one of the uh women working the lot mhm here's what I think in these
00:40:36
situations Captain he did later provide names for these people I think that if these people if there were people that
00:40:45
he actually killed in this manner if there were women that he actually killed in this manner he may have used false
00:40:51
names when when later reporting this yeah or just didn't know the name my guess is that I'm guessing that this is
00:41:00
probably where his killing may have started and it's it's I have nothing to base this off of other than a bit of a
00:41:08
numbers game you know in 2004 the FBI they they Unleashed their Long Haul trucker serial killer initiative to the
00:41:17
public where they started explaining to us that you know we can come up with about 5 to 600 different victims that we
00:41:24
believe have been killed by the different serial killer truck drivers yeah and the FBI stating back in 2004
00:41:33
that there's possibly 2 hundred of these people types of killers out roaming the
00:41:38
interstates and in the highways of this great country and I scary right and I so I'm
00:41:45
just kind of playing a numbers game here I don't know that he killed those four people I don't know that all three of
00:41:49
those confessions are accurate or truth but I think that he's probably trying to tell us that that's probably
00:41:59
where this began for him he probably killed one maybe two women while he was out on the road and then when he came
00:42:07
back here he tried to establish his life back here he had a wife he had a local job where he didn't have to be gone for
00:42:15
weeks at a time yeah he had a son that I don't know how he treated the son but according to his words he seemed to care
00:42:22
about him to the point of at least where he was upset angered that the son was taken from him I wonder if there's any
00:42:29
truth to there being a son there is a son okay uh uh he does exist he's alive he's alive now what I think about that
00:42:39
confession regarding the homeless men the two women under the bridge and the man fishing mhm I really think he
00:42:47
probably killed those two homeless men I don't know I don't know what to think about the two women under the bridge or
00:42:54
the guy fishing well thing too is when you're drinking that much booze and you're doing that many
00:43:01
drugs you know what part of his reality you know was some of this stuff you know
00:43:08
just dreams he had or was or did he black out I mean how much does he actually remember about his existence
00:43:17
right but the reason why I say that I think he killed those two homeless men is you know they had some kind of
00:43:23
evidence to make that arrest two and a half weeks after they were killed yeah it wasn't enough evidence to make a
00:43:29
trial out of it or to bring him to court for it or I'm sorry to get a conviction
00:43:34
for that but later he goes on to confess to it I I think he did it I think there's probably there was proof
00:43:40
beforehand and then later we have him confessing to it he's got nothing to lose he was acquitted he can't be
00:43:45
charged with it again and tried again now the thing with the women and and the guy fishing I've heard from some local
00:43:53
people and I don't forgive me if this is wrong I can only go off of what these people have told me they've told me they
00:44:00
would be shocked that anyone would fish in that River at all right um I know here in Ohio we have some rivers that
00:44:08
nobody would fish in yeah um so three-eyed fish so the some of the local people don't believe portions of this
00:44:15
confession or all of it because of that simple fact the other thing you tapped into something good there too talking
00:44:21
about his mental state is there a chance that in some kind of homicidal rage he killed these two homeless men and then
00:44:28
blacked out and maybe dreamt that that that that he continued to kill I mean you're talking about he says it would
00:44:35
have been five victims in the course of seven or seven and a half hours right which is very much like American Psycho
00:44:42
right so here again I think we have some partial truth to to his confessions and
00:44:49
then these later confessions we know he killed these women um is there potentially one or two more more that we
00:44:56
don't know about I doubt it he seemed to talk a lot he seemed to tell us a lot of
00:45:01
maybe even fake crimes um and he seemed to keep the bodies he seemed to be lazy about the disposal of the bodies is what
00:45:09
it appears to me yeah I think he was just a lazy person in general and the thing for the
00:45:15
sandwiches um so I mean what's interesting here is I question whether or not there was even a stand that he
00:45:25
sold these at but you said that there is there's definite evidence or Witnesses of this even better there are um some
00:45:36
people that used to work at the same company with Joe and people that used to go to the borderline
00:45:43
bar that not only witnessed this but said they have purchased these sandwiches from Joe ah and so you have
00:45:51
some of the people that are like no it's all made up he's you know he's he's just pulling our chain and then you
00:45:58
have some people that are like I'm not certain but I'm I'm afraid that I probably ate human flesh right here's
00:46:08
what I think so so we do know we have some proof that the the barbecue stand existed yeah and I was with you I
00:46:15
questioned that it have had even existed at all because if you Google some pictures of Joe methany I'm not buying
00:46:22
any food from this guy I don't care I'm why not why not have you seen his crazy face he's got a crazy face you know a
00:46:32
heavier set you know Chef oh I don't mind a heavy set Chef nor knows what they're doing yeah I don't like a skinny
00:46:39
Chef is what I don't like but I also don't like crazy face Chef anyway I I think that ugly face I
00:46:48
think that he sold the sandwiches as we have the witnesses that say that I think
00:46:52
we have a situation here Captain where his world got very small Joe meth's World got very small he got addicted to
00:46:59
drugs he became hardcore alcoholic and at some point he lived and worked at the same place he walked down the street to
00:47:08
the nearest bar to cash his check and sat on a stool every night in there and when he wasn't in there he was back in
00:47:15
his trailer doing drugs his whole world was that little city block and I think his way at the end to you know all these
00:47:25
people later to talk about him oh he's locked up he's arrested oh we he was nice he was this he was that but in the
00:47:32
end Joe can go to all say to all those people or think to himself all those people I had the last laugh on you yeah
00:47:39
I might be locked up I might be serving life in prison I had the last laugh on you because I sold you sandwiches that
00:47:45
had human flesh in them yeah there's not a lot of evidence of this in the autopsies you're right there has been no
00:47:55
statement from law enforcement to back up his claim or to deny his claim that might just be be protecting the citizens
00:48:04
and also protecting the victims as well my guess is it's a lie right you know and and and I think you know what
00:48:13
evidence we have of this is like you said there's not evidence of such in the autopsies he described how he removed
00:48:21
the the the meat quote unquote meat that he used right um but we see any indication of that in the findings well
00:48:28
it's clear from his first the confession about the 12-year-old where he is rejected or he feels rejected by a girl
00:48:38
or maybe multiple girls right he probably was rejected later in life by uh women and probably just Society in
00:48:48
general and I think again that shows his hatred maybe his hatred came from his mother I'm I'm not really for sure
00:48:55
hatred of women came from his mother but what I think these confessions and when
00:49:01
people are actually now listening to him I feel like that was you know he knows he's locked away he did have some AC
00:49:09
acceptance from his employers mhm um or co-workers and now that he's in jail other than the inmates nobody really
00:49:18
wants to talk to him he seemed like he had some intelligence so by talking to you know people that run we sites or pin
00:49:26
Pals or whatever maybe it just felt like I have to keep giving them something and
00:49:31
that's a form of acceptance and that's kind of what they want so I'm just going to play into that
00:49:37
so I get some kind of acceptance that's how that's my gut feeling on some of the
00:49:42
the crazy stuff he talks about but what's really hard to deny is that he did have certain confessions that were
00:49:49
almost 100% truthful right so it's like you kind of keep that in the back of your head like well well there's not
00:49:57
Time After Time After Time where you find out that Joe is a is a liar mhm so uh I hope for the obviously the victim's
00:50:06
sake and then anybody that uh bought a sandwich that that that statement is false Joe methany was a serial killer
00:50:14
that I had never heard of until fairly recently six S8 months ago something like that started looking into his story
00:50:24
a while back and even though he was the serial killer that I had never heard of he's certainly one that after reading
00:50:31
these stories and these newspaper articles yeah uh he's certainly one that I won't
00:50:36
forget um and I don't mean that in a good way uh but Joe has passed away um he did die in prison at the age of 62
00:50:46
last year in August uh he was serving his life sentences in the western correctional institute in Cumberland
00:50:54
Maryland uh prison officials found him dead and unresponsive in his cell he was described by prison officials to be
00:51:03
morbidly obese at the time of his death and is believed that he died from a heart
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