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time that a terrible crime happened inside the Lululemon store on Bethesda Avenue Friday night a timeline released
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by police indicates employees closed the store at 9 pm then set the alarm and lock the door at 9 45 at 10 05 PM two
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female employees returned to pick up a forgotten item that's when two men wearing ski masks and gloves entered
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behind them another employee found the victims when she arrived to open the store at 8 A.M Saturday police think it
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was a crime of opportunity a robbery that turned into rape and murder thirty-year-old jaina Murray is
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described as a valiant fighter who would not have hesitated to protect herself and her 27 year old co-worker who was
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beaten but survived the crime scene May hold the best leads police have at this point we are still
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in the process of collecting physical evidence and doing forensic analysis My Hope Is that in the next few days we may
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get additional leads as a result of that forensic analysis the attack in the heart of downtown Bethesda has residents
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and the business community on edge you need to understand this is a very close-knit Community even though it's on
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the edge of urbanization and in many ways is growing so much it remains very close and it hurts
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[Music] thank you detectives were collecting evidence from the Lululemon store from a robbery that
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resulted in the sexual assault of two young women in the murder of one now the forensics that they're finding at the
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store here Captain they have the surviving victim the surviving witness who told them and we went through that
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pretty detailed in yesterday's show how this attack went down the issue here is they're starting to
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find the detectives are starting to find things at the store that are not necessarily lining up with the surviving
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victims story and the account of these attacks and murder also detective Dimitri is coming up with some theories
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thinking that maybe there was two suspects that came in that knew Brittany and maybe she just knew them or maybe
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she was in on this but let's go through a couple items that don't make much sense well one item Captain that's not
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going to play towards this new theory of an inside job and two guys coming in to
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carry out this attack is that detectives found only two sets of bloody shoe prints in the Lululemon store now one
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set of these bloody shoe prints belong to Brittany right the other came from a size 14 men's shoe Reebok
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tennis shoe well that shoe was found in the Lululemon store yeah and it was cleaned
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off yeah so the way that the way that this works is we have Bloody footprints over portions of the floor of this store
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now it it was so obvious to the detectives that the shoe they found one set of men's shoes in the store it was
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Reebok size 14 tennis shoe they said that the pattern was unique enough on the bottom of this tennis shoe that it
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was obvious you could look at this shoe and know that that created the print that you're seeing on the floor below
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you yeah I don't know if you have a crime scene that's covered in blood and you have two male attackers why aren't
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there two sets of footprints so to back up this theory that these shoes were worn during the course of the attack or
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at some point before uh Brittany was found in the store they did find a little bit of blood on
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this the shoes right however they believed that the shoes were at one point much more bloodied than that and
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had been cleaned off that someone had washed the soles of the shoes and evidence pointing to that was that they
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had bloody Footprints bloody shoe prints from that size 14 that led up to a sink
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and I believe it was the bathroom sink that you could see the bloody shoe prints walking up to that sink and then
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there they never leave that sink well right and they never leave the store yeah so it's almost like somebody took
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them off at the sink washed them and then put them away and so if we have two guys that came into this store whether
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Britney knew them or not now you're talking about for some reason they they removed their shoes and put on different
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shoes and one of yeah one of them put on a size 14 men's shoe either during the the attack or shortly
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afterwards wash the shoes and then replace them on wherever they were being kept yeah left them in the store
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but the these idiot attackers too uh attacked their victims with eight to ten objects
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that were found in the store and they left all eight to ten objects and then you have this situation where you know
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Britney's found alive but she's kind of found in a weird situation yeah so she is like we had said she's
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bound um like zip ties somebody had used zip ties to bind her ankles together and
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then her wrist together right now when she's found she's found lying on the bathroom floor and her arms are
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above her head yeah so let's think about this for a minute this means that her arms are not behind her back
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she's bound with her her hands in front of her now one question that I found and
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I found this very interesting because this this kind of kicked everything off for me was one reporter that was
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reporting on the story on Saturday when they were found stated in their report it's unclear why
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the surviving victim did not call for help or did not leave the store the thought that this reporter had at the
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time was that possibly Brittany was unconscious that she had been knocked out during this attack Well normally
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these stores are set up in a way where you have your front entrance and those are nice and Posh and they look nice for
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the customers but then you normally have like a back Alleyway where you would have a dumpster and stuff like that and
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normally those back doors if you push against them and you open them especially when the alarm is on that the
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alarm would go off so these are these attackers attack both of you your co-workers dead now you're
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laying there for I don't know eight hours ten hours and you you know you could push yourself up by your hands
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even though you're bound you're bound with your hands in front of you she could have got to the point where maybe
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she could have made a phone call but she could at least push that door open well
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I wouldn't think that the alarm would be set at this point well about it but it might even if the alarm is not oh it may
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trigger it anymore I see what you're saying yeah because some of those are where you have the sign that says if you
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open this door the alarm will sound right um yeah I see what you're saying she could have given her injuries she could
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have very likely have I don't know if she would have been able to flee out the front door let's say being tied like
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that and and injured I really feel like I it looks strange to me that she couldn't crawl to a phone we're talking
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about a very athletic person we're talking about somebody that had got scholarship
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through her skills being a soccer player we also we know that her um wounds are not super deep or
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life-threatening we also know that she was a couple weeks away from becoming a trainer
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so again a very athletic person I think this person could have easily got to help on some level later one of the
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First Responders that Saul was first to see Brittany and to respond to her being
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lying there injured on the floor they said that when they encountered Britney's body she did appear to be
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unconscious at this time okay but when this first responder knelt down to tend to her
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when they touched her she flinched in in a manner that made the first responder believed that she might have just been
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lying there with her eyes closed that she was not in fact unconscious the other problem too is we have this the
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car scenario yeah we talked about jaina's car was was found about three blocks away from the
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Lululemon store we have Britney's vehicle that is found in the parking lot where it's expected to be right in front
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of the store so how did how did jaina's car get from the Lululemon store to that
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three block location right and I wondered if maybe that's just where I was parked initially but law enforcement
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are going to find blood inside the car yeah so and I and I had theorized that possibly the offenders used the vehicle
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to flee to drive themselves to their vehicle that they would eventually get in or to flee from that area right but
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we have no surveillance of that we have no surveillance of that and then the other troubling thing is they do find
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some items inside the car that are of evidentiary value it's the blood the the problem with this
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is they're only finding blood that belongs to the two victims so we have jaina's blood inside her vehicle and we
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also have Britney's blood inside of jaina's vehicle now when jaina was interviewed initially about this they
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were asked about her car about jaina's car what do you know about it um where would you expect it to be she
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said that it was parked right in front of the Lululemon store she had never been inside of jaina's vehicle according
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to the interview she also said she only saw the vehicle maybe once yeah so so giving a vague description of the
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vehicle is it out of bound here here's the thing that you have to wonder now captain
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with what is found in the car are you starting to wonder maybe there's not other offenders we have one set of
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shoe prints of an offender the shoes are found in the store right but law enforcement has surveillance of two men
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that match the description that Brittany gave so now we gotta track down these guys now they track these guys down
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come to find out that there they cleared them they had no involvement in this attack whatsoever yeah these men
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actually belonged in the area they worked they worked there in this business district and they're they're
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wearing all black because that was their uniform right right a lot of like servers or well even some stores you
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know they have some stores have colors that people are supposed to wear um so I I don't I can't tell you where
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they worked I don't remember but um yeah and as they're doing forensic evidence now we got another big problem
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we have claims again from Brittany saying that both women were raped or at least you know sexually assaulted now
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there's bruising on both victims but there is actually no evidence of sexual assault yeah they couldn't find
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conclusive evidence to confirm that portion of Britney's story so now we got some problems well yeah because every
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everything's going to kind of shift gears here because what we're seeing is at this point in the investigation is we
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have Brittany Norwood who was once a considered a victim she's starting to come into clearer Focus as possible or
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likely suspect in this case yeah so we have we have some issues here because the
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investigators the the detectives are going to be speaking with Brittany quite a bit now in the beginning they're
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speaking with her because she's the the Lone Survivor she's the surviving witness she is the person that's going
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to be able to provide you with the most Clues the most evidence the most leads to find the perpetrators of this attack
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well as she starts to be go go from victim to suspect they're still talking to her they're still interviewing her
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the problem is it's it's going to shift a little bit and they decided that one thing that they needed to do you know
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sometimes with with these with victims of of a traumatizing situation like this to put it lightly I guess
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is it may take a few days for things to become clear to them you know they've been through a lot they've witnessed a
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lot they've experienced a lot it could take a few days so as these days continued and as these interviews
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continued the detectives they tried to get a little more they try to get a little more
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information from the interviews that they have with Brittany you know they were asking her very specific questions
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by this point asking her things like you know what were the possible weapons that
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these guys used and based off of what weapons they used were you able to determine if the assailants could have
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been right-handed or left-handed yeah did either of them speak with an accent did either of them at any time mention
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you know accidentally say a name or a nickname to to one another right what was jaina doing during the attack what
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were you doing during the attack so very specific questions because here's the thing that they start to figure out
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is that early on when they needed information from Brittany she has a story to tell and we went through that
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the problem with that story is when you push and when you prod her for more information
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it either seems that there is no more information or she's unwilling to give that information to the detectives right
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now one thing that the detectives did and this was a pretty smart Ploy on their end
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is you know from time to time these interviews have taken place on off of their Turf let's say we know that the
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first interview took place from a hospital bed when Brittany was in the hospital I believe they spoke with her
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at her home at one time they wanted to get her on their turf they wanted to kind of put her in the
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hot seat so to speak so that either a they could get answers to these questions and find out more about these
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attackers or B get answers about these questions and point the finger at her because at some point you have to stop
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treating her like a victim and start treating her like a suspect right if the evidence is pointing you in that
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direction now what they did was they contacted her and they asked her if she would come down to the police department
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because they needed her to submit things like hair evidence and fingerprints things of this nature so that and what
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they told her is that you know we need to be able to compare your information to things that we're finding at the
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crime scene so we can rule those prints and hair out and maybe we we're able to find Prince and hair of the offenders
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yeah she she does go down to the police department to speak with them and and Supply them with that evidence what that
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leads them to is an interview that takes about an hour and a half where they're able to kind of Grill her a little bit
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this is when they inform Brittany that jaina's vehicle was moved during the attack we know that her vehicle was
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moved that night and now the big problem we're having with her vehicle being moved is that your blood was found
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inside the car now why would we find your blood inside the car I'm sure she's probably going to give you some kind of
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information that maybe the blood was on the attackers and they had tracked the blood into jaina's car what do you know
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about jaina's car I think she slipped up and gave them a little more information you had said
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earlier she said I I believe I've only seen the vehicle maybe once right and it looked like this the trouble here is she
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gives them a little more information they are putting her when they're talking to her when she's
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sitting across the the table from them they are putting her constantly putting her in that vehicle and that's where the
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questions are going to be routed that's what we're going to try to the picture we're going to paint for her is we can
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put you in that vehicle now explain this away please right she leaves the police department
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and some time goes by and I believe it might actually have been a day or two goes by
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but eventually her sister her older sister contacts the police department and says you know Brittany
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has some information that she has not told you regarding the attacks and she would like to talk to you about
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this okay she goes back down to the police department and she explains to the officers that it was in fact her
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Brittany that had moved jaina's vehicle hmm she states that the assailants instructed her to move the vehicle now
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I've heard several different reasons why this vehicle might have been moved but the the one that seems the most
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consistent is that jaina's vehicle may have been parked illegally remember we said that they returned to the store
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that night right so she could have parked in any number of spots that might have tipped somebody
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off that something was wrong or would have caused some kind of alarm she could have parked in a handicap spot or or
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there she was double parked where she just thought well I'm just going to park my car real quick by the curb yeah and
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run in and right in front of the door and we're gonna be done and then there therefore the vehicle would need to be
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moved she states that the assailants wanted this vehicle move they instructed her to
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to move the vehicle and then return to the Lululemon store yeah but this vehicle has moved about three blocks
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away so one you could have taken off and and went to the cops yeah I guess they had her wear like a a hat or something
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to kind of Disguise herself to move this vehicle make sure you're back here shortly you know 10 minutes get your
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butt back here or we're gonna kill you yeah so here's here's a huge huge you want to talk about poking holes in the
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story let's talk about ripping the damn thing open this is a this is a huge problem for her story for several
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reasons one according to her version of the attack and how it went down jaina was attacked immediately and
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pulled off into the back of the store while this is going on Brittany is attacked in a different location of the
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store she talks about how her attacker is using racial slurs and cuts her stomach
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okay so at what point during this attack Brittany do you just are you fine enough
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to get up and leave and and move the vehicle and Jog back to the store yet eight to ten hours later your injuries
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that you sustained are are bad enough that you're unable to crawl to a phone at any point or crawl out of the store
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right you know it's just not really lining up at this point because what she states is that she's threatened if you
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don't come back here we're going to kill you oh by the way we know where you live
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we know your name we know some things about your family right we can do damage to you
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it's just not really lining up here is it captain no and we're gonna it's not gonna line up to her brother and sister
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either because her brother and sister are with her so Britney's brother and sister are at the police station they're
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hearing these stories they're hearing the questioning and I think they start believing that hey maybe my sister had
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something to do with this yeah I don't know if she requests to speak with her relatives or I think her brother
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requested to speak with her oh like hey we I want to go in there make sure she's
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okay yeah but I also think we got I do want to I know we're kind of pointing a big finger at Britney here but I do want
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to point out that from everything that I've read regarding the Norwood family this is a close-knit family big family
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uh respectable family very good people um and we have a brother saying hey I'm concerned about my sister I want to go
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in there and check on her to see if she's okay yeah and like you said she's in there Brittany is in there with her
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sister and her brother at this point they're talking and I think the brother and sister have a lot of questions for
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Brittany yeah and I don't think they're really liking what they're hearing or maybe more importantly what they're not
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hearing from Brittany yeah and I think at one point her brother says did you do this I think Captain she
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might Britney might have been in handcuffs at this point because she's already kind of spoken with the
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detectives her stories falling apart we got the relatives in there now I think she keeps on saying that she wants to
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leave so at that point they actually have to either arrest or let her go and then so I think they cuff her to the
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table and then they read her her rights yeah and at one point you know so they're in a room at the police station
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and obviously the police are listening in to the conversation between the brother and Brittany and at one point in
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the conversation he does ask her directly did you do this and Brittany looks at his at her brother and says I
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don't want to disappoint you I'm sorry I don't want to talk here [Music] [Music]
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all right we're back the thing that we need to point out here Captain to make this downright clear
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because we're back we're back yes we're back uh when they have Brittany in there
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for questioning yeah and both when the detectives are speaking with her and when her brother and sister are speaking
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with her she's not at this point denying that she did anything wrong you know that she's asked did you do this or we
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think that you moved the car because you killed her we think that this happened we think that that happened and she's at
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this point she's broken down and she's not she's not saying yes I did Kill jaina but she's not denying it either
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yeah I think at this point her lies are catching up to her and she's trapped so she is ultimately arrested she's
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arrested that day as you had said and she's going to be charged with the first degree murder of jaina Murray
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now so what in fact happened the police have the police have a theory on this and they're going to break it
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down as such that on that Friday the two women were working together at the Lululemon store
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right when it came time to close and after they had locked the doors and finish their closing duties well this is
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a retail store and in Lululemon their their procedure is such that that each employee checks the bag of the other
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employee we only have two people left in the store at this point I used to work at PacSun and this was very common if
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you were closing up the shop with the manager that if they had a bag you had to look through their bag if if you had
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a bag they looked through your bag and then you'd check that off the list and and then leave the store
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and so when they when jaina goes to check Britney's bag there are a pair of yoga pants in the in her bag now
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these pants run about a hundred and I think 150 bucks maybe more yeah these are not cheap pants right so
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when when the this discovery is made Britney has an explanation these I paid for these I purchased these earlier
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today right so then the question is where's your receipt yes I don't have a receipt can't find it
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well that's no problem let's just log back onto the computer and we'll see the sale of the day and then we can go about
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our way but they already logged off their computer so they claimed that they couldn't log back on but it might have
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been one of those things where it was like ah we already logged off for the day we can deal with this tomorrow now
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the problem is that Britney has been accused of stealing before uh you know or suspicious of stealing at
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the other Lululemon store that she used to work at she also was I think kicked off her soccer team for
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which she had a scholarship for because she was stealing from other players lockers so she kind of has a history of
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this yeah so now uh and one of the main reasons that she was moved from another store was there was this customer
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discount day where you get everything off 70 some percent and you're only supposed to get a certain amount that
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you're allowed to buy so up to a certain dollar amount yeah like 300 bucks or something like that
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a lot of employees took advantage of this and and spent more than they're supposed to and a lot a lot of employees
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so much so that they're like well crap we can't fire all these people and replace them so let's just say okay well
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you guys made a mistake we're going to tighten up our restrictions but we're going to transfer you to different
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stores so I think all the managers were probably saying hey any of these employees that were moved to other
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stores we got a keep an eye on them well yeah so the so there's good reason for her being transferred to this new
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location now I have read a few reports that state that there was money that was missing from this Bethesda Lululemon
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store that's once Britney started working there things were coming up missing whether it be clothing items or
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actual money right and so hypothetically if if there was money missing five times
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from this store or the cash register came up short five times the only employee that worked all of those days
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was Britney so much so that they were thinking about installing cameras on the inside of the
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store because they wanted to catch whoever was doing this and like you said Captain they were pretty suspicious that
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they knew who was at who actually was responsible they just couldn't prove it they didn't have any evidence of such so
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on that night these these pants are discovered in her bag and as the captain said they couldn't log back onto the
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computer to prove that that sale actually took place so Britney is going to need someone to vouch for her and she
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says oh so and so was running the register and sold me these pants well jaina takes this as at face value
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and says okay that's fine uh they close up the shop and upon leaving jaina calls this other employee and asks
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her to confirm Britney's Story the employee says I did not sell Brittany anything so these are stolen pants yes
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Britney stole these pants and attempted to leave with them hoping that you know it's a Friday maybe they'll rush out of
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there um and and she'll forget to check my bag yes and then Brittany being caught basically she's walking to
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her car thinking well now I'm going to lose my job and apparently she was up for some job
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that she had desired quite a bit as a personal trainer or something at a at a higher end uh fitness center I I'm not
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really certain of those details but the thought is that if being caught stealing
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and getting fired from Lululemon in transition was going to carry over to her not getting this job that she'd been
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fighting to get right so she's caught that night and what does she do she she comes up with this story
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of oh I've left something in the store now you can go down a couple different Avenues here with with this portion of
00:33:08
the story but what I've heard is that she remember she had to contact another employee to get jaina's phone number
00:33:18
right she gets jaina back to agree to meet her back at the store and from here you can take it one of two ways either
00:33:26
Brittany had already determined that she was going to attack jaina or at some point she's telling her Hey look
00:33:35
if you if if you tell on me for this um I'm going to lose this job that I've been trying to get I'm I'm only going to
00:33:42
be here another couple days anyway right um yeah maybe try to plead with her just you
00:33:49
know hey show me a little sympathy and this all can go away and I'm guessing that
00:33:56
um this is a tough situation because I've been in the situation where I've seen a
00:34:02
co-worker uh stealing yes you've seen somebody I'll break it down like this uh you've seen somebody that you like yes
00:34:10
do something that you didn't expect them to do that you know is wrong is what you're saying right yes and then so
00:34:17
actually what happened was it was another teller we're both on the line bank teller you were a bank teller and I
00:34:24
looked down and I see the other bank teller pulling money from his pocket and putting it back into his cash flow wait
00:34:33
that's like the opposite of himself these things usually work and he's making a donation to the bank and he
00:34:39
then realizes and I say and he kind of looks at me like oh [ __ ] and I said write to him
00:34:48
right then and there I wish I didn't see that because now I I have to say because
00:34:54
one we have all these cameras and it would be pretty easy for if he gets caught doing whatever he's doing for
00:35:00
them to see that I was right there watching him do it right so then I went to my boss and said this
00:35:07
is what I saw and they suspected that this guy was taking anywhere from 500 to a thousand dollars at a time and maybe
00:35:14
that money would be missing for a couple days and he was gambling with this money
00:35:19
and then when he'd win the money back he would return it back so it's still right
00:35:26
right yeah you can't do that you're not allowed to borrow money from the bank just because you work there so
00:35:32
I could see the manager saying well look you know I still have to report this and
00:35:38
I'm sorry and and and maybe that's what happened but then an attack happens well and actually by this point but
00:35:47
before the attack takes place jaina had already reported this this theft to her higher up right from a phone call so
00:35:57
yeah so even if Britney's pleading with her and saying don't turn me in it's a little late I already turned you in she
00:36:04
might have said you know I am sorry but I did call my manager regardless the result is that Britney attacks jaina now
00:36:12
this attack could have taken it I've heard from from what was presented at trial
00:36:18
is that this attack would have taken a minimum of 20 minutes this was a brutal attack you pointed out how many wounds
00:36:26
how many injuries there were to the victim over 300 multiple weapons used during the course of this murder well
00:36:34
multiple that might be the right word but it's like eight to ten different weapons
00:36:40
that's that's nuts yeah and it's it's believed that that Britney would pick up one weapon attack the victim with it and
00:36:49
then at some point Retreat off to another area of the store to exchange weapons to almost use something else on
00:36:57
her yeah and a lot of people think that she was enjoying the attack and enjoying
00:37:04
to see what different items would do uh I don't know if that's necessarily true I think maybe there could have been a
00:37:12
it's possible that there was a state of panic and she's going this ain't this is
00:37:16
not working at some point during the course of this attack jaina almost escapes she because we would later find blood
00:37:27
evidence to suggest that she almost made it out the back door right to set that alarm or at least or at least yeah yeah
00:37:35
after the attack after jaina is killed we then have Brittany who is concerned about this vehicle being parked
00:37:43
illegally out front of the Lululemon store right so she according to this plan that she kind of
00:37:51
just came up with she's got to move this vehicle she moves the vehicle three blocks away and then returns to the
00:37:58
store now I've read several several reports that state that they they believe the investigators believed that
00:38:06
she remained inside the vehicle after moving it for an hour to an hour and a half almost like
00:38:13
holy crap what do I do I've got to come up with some kind of plan here I I've got to cover this thing up now right and
00:38:20
I think that's when she came up with the plan of I can make it look like I was attacked as well so then she goes back
00:38:27
to the store at some point well I want to be too gruesome but you know like we said there was 300 and some
00:38:35
attacks on jaina and with hitting there with these eight to ten different objects that wasn't working so at some
00:38:42
point she goes all the way across to like we said should go somewhere else in the store to find some kind of tool
00:38:50
or weapon and then at some point she finds a knife and then she stabs her twice one in the head and that's pretty
00:38:57
much how she died but then as she's sitting in this car and she has to come up with this plan
00:39:02
then she decides when she goes back that she'll have to cut um Janna's jaina's pants so yeah yeah
00:39:10
because she needs to now stage some type of sexual assault on this victim so she
00:39:16
cuts a hole in the pants that jaina is wearing right these slits down the side and one report that I read and it says
00:39:26
that she molests the body after death and I don't know the details of that nor do I care to but I imagine it's another
00:39:34
it's it's additional staging that she's doing to to present the crime scene in the manner that's going to go along with
00:39:41
the story that she's eventually going to tell the investigators right and so once
00:39:46
she does that and that's all done so that part of this uh plan is stage then she goes and finds these shoes that
00:39:54
were male shoes that sometimes it wasn't men using these to try on but you know women sometimes would use them because
00:40:00
they could slip them on and off real quick while they're trying on the different pants so she finds these shoes
00:40:06
and then she walks in the blood and she walks around the whole store well like we said law enforcement finds the shoes
00:40:13
in the store and they've been cleaned and there was no tracks lead leaning out of the store but the other problem too
00:40:19
is that now that we know that she is probably the person that did this they test the shoes for DNA and it's
00:40:26
Britney's DNA inside the shoes right so now that part of the plan was staged and
00:40:33
now she has to cut herself more and she cuts herself on you know even like we said the chest and the legs and she has
00:40:41
to then cut her pants and then she has to basically assault herself you know her private parts
00:40:49
and and so that's you know so she can claim that she was sexually assaulted as well I mean these are psychotic actions
00:40:58
and then she has to tie herself up with these zip ties and because she can't zip tie herself
00:41:05
behind her back she does it through the front and then she has to lay basically in blood for 10 hours and wait for
00:41:14
somebody to to find them there's also some question marks regarding Britney's injuries so we said that she had a cut
00:41:22
or bruise to her head and hand and then we also mentioned the breast the stomach
00:41:28
and the legs apparently it's believed that the breast stomach and legs those injuries were self-inflicted that the
00:41:36
head injury could be self-inflicted or it might have been jaina trying to defend herself right fight off her
00:41:45
attacker the hand injury is actually believed that maybe one of the weapons that she
00:41:51
was using whether it be a box cutter or a knife that when she was using this Implement of murder that it had slipped
00:42:01
and she had cut herself during the attack well and that that was her only severe injury yeah and and because
00:42:08
probably it was a box cutter or something and like you said if if that box cutter is covered in blood your hand
00:42:14
slips right off and then you cut yourself yeah and you say said only severe injury meaning it was the only
00:42:20
one that was severe severe enough to require stitches right the other cuts to her required no stitches right so
00:42:28
obviously all the murder weapons were found they came from inside the store yeah but so did the zip ties and what
00:42:36
they realized too law enforcement realized that it'd be this would be a very difficult thing for
00:42:44
attackers to find in the store yeah these are were not items that were just lying out in the open
00:42:51
well this thing's going to go to trial captain and really as far as the trial is concerned what we see in the trial is
00:42:58
not so much a declaration of her being innocent yeah it's not so much that it's think of the charge she's charged with
00:43:07
first degree murder that means this is a premeditated attack so the the mountain of evidence here is pretty
00:43:15
undeniable so she is going to plead guilty well guilty in the sense that her defense
00:43:23
all right they don't put up a whole lot of Defense meaning they they don't jump out and say look she didn't kill
00:43:29
jaina Murray right they're just gonna argue that it's not first degree murder second degree because there's no
00:43:35
premeditation hoping that she will get convicted of a lesser charge receive a lesser sentence because in their words
00:43:42
in their opinion Brittany lost it right when when she got caught stealing when she didn't know
00:43:49
what else to do when she was confronted by jaina that she'd lost it and killed this girl now
00:43:57
here's the thing though Captain there there were a few thing I mean there's always multiple things that upset you
00:44:03
about these cases but but besides the fact that a young vibrant woman that was going to be something in this world got
00:44:11
killed an innocent victim got killed there were some other things at trial that that were rather disturbing to me
00:44:18
and the first being that the defense implied that there was some kind of fight meaning like a mutual fight broke out
00:44:25
between the two women right it's not a mutual fight that's called self-defense dick knows well I well here's the thing
00:44:34
it it actually looks to me like like Britney Blitz attacked her that she was that it was a sneak attack right that
00:44:43
jaina didn't know what was going on she was struck probably from behind or as she was turning around to what I'm
00:44:51
getting at is that this is kind of taking the victims families and kind of rubbing their nose in it when you go
00:44:56
when you go you know what you're the victim here was somewhat responsible for their own demands not possible at all
00:45:04
there was no fight here this was not a mutual fight between two women this was one horrible woman attacking another and
00:45:12
killing her viciously killing her yeah and the argument was is the argument is was there premeditation well it depends
00:45:23
on how you view premeditation but maybe she didn't think about it before she got
00:45:27
back to the shop but then she knew that she was caught and then a fight broke out and then she hit her with something
00:45:34
but then you kept going and you kept stopping and finding new weapons to attack her with and then you had to move
00:45:42
her car and then you sat in the car for an hour maybe an hour and a half and then you came up with this other plan
00:45:48
and then you basically abused their their corpse I mean how how much time has to pass before you stop doing what
00:45:58
you're doing you know what I mean right they said that the attack would have taken at minimum maybe 20 minutes okay
00:46:04
so you had every second of that 20 minutes to stop that attack and furthermore so not it is premeditated at
00:46:13
some point because according to Maryland law premeditation only takes seconds right so once you continue to continue
00:46:22
to hurt this person to inflict damage upon them you are choosing to take their life and then second of all people
00:46:29
wondered well she must be crazy if she lost it like this she only got caught for stealing who who takes a petty crime
00:46:37
and covers it up with murder well she's not crazy as far as the law is concerned
00:46:43
she might be crazy to the point where you don't want her living next door to you right but she's not crazy in the
00:46:49
eyes of the law because she spent the rest of the night covering it up she knew what she did was wrong and as she
00:46:56
was doing it she knew that it was the wrong thing to do the other thing that that ticked me off here captain and I
00:47:02
know this got to you as well and it didn't really come up until the trial itself but they had to call people they
00:47:10
had to call witnesses to testify to things that they had heard and these were people that were working at the
00:47:18
Apple Store or in the Apple store as uh customers yeah and the reason being is that these people actually heard through
00:47:26
that wall words being exchanged they heard screams they heard some of the attack right
00:47:35
and yet none of them did anything yeah this is one that's weird and I know a lot of people that read this story or
00:47:43
have seen this story on different shows and stuff that that this really upsets them I the the problem with me judging
00:47:51
any of these individuals is I don't know what they heard I don't know did they hear one scream that was it
00:47:59
you sure I mean no I get it I I totally get it and they there's something that uh because even the judge as he's
00:48:07
handing out the sentencing he he talks about these people that worked in the Apple Store and how how awful they were
00:48:14
and it's like but but I don't know what they heard I mean you sometimes you know
00:48:19
you go outside late at night you hear something that sounds like a couple gunshots
00:48:24
you know it was presented at trial so the judge knows what they heard right we we don't know what they heard but the
00:48:30
judge as you as you said the judge was he came down very hard on these people and and had a lot of words for these
00:48:39
individuals I mean if you heard multiple screams and you didn't call the cops I mean at least call the cops because even
00:48:45
if it's nothing okay well better safe than sorry but if they would have called the cops uh they they could have saved
00:48:51
her life I mean I I don't think this attack took place in 20 minutes I think this attack took place half hour 45
00:48:59
minutes at least I'm saying an hour and and then on top of that it's like you know so you could have got law
00:49:06
enforcement to stop the attack but then you could rush her to the hospital and possibly saved her life well I'll say
00:49:12
something in the defense of the people at the Apple Store so there is something this is this is a scientific study
00:49:20
um there's something called the bystander effect which this what they State during this is that when people
00:49:26
hear possible Danger but they know that other people are around so this works out in this
00:49:33
situation here they're in a super safe area they're not expecting to hear or see violence when they're out that
00:49:40
evening so when you hear something that's strange or you see something that's strange and there's a lot of
00:49:45
other people around individually with inside ourselves most of us will make the assumption that
00:49:53
if something is truly bad if something is really bad that someone else will call right and then in in in transfer of
00:50:00
that what ends up happening is Nobody ends up calling yeah you just gotta look everybody heard that so you hear a
00:50:07
scream you see an accident call what's the worst thing that could happen they got
00:50:13
a couple extra calls about about something that happened well and it's it's a huge mistake on their
00:50:20
part that that nothing was done that nobody made a call this attack like you said 45 minutes an hour that could have
00:50:28
changed that could have saved This Woman's life if somebody would have called responders could have arrived to
00:50:34
the building in time so the the key thing is and police would tell you the same thing
00:50:40
you see something call you hear something call that's what you see something say something right
00:50:47
yeah and I so I mean my final thoughts on Britney is that again she's not psycho as far as you know the law is
00:50:56
concerned but I think she is I think she's a psycho you know well she got the she got the
00:51:05
sentence that she deserves so Brittany Norwood what is currently in Maryland's only female prison this is Maryland's
00:51:13
correctional institute for women in Jessup uh which is between Washington DC and Baltimore and under the terms of her
00:51:21
life sentence she received a life sentence under those terms she can never be paroled yeah and that's kind of what
00:51:29
they argued for they wanted to give her some kind of hope you know like give her
00:51:34
the possibility of parole and and I applaud the judge for saying look I'm not going to give you that and I don't I
00:51:41
don't want to give you hope people like you should not be on the streets yes that was Britney's family that wanted to
00:51:48
leave her with some form of Hope but I wanted to bring up something that was brought to trial during the sentencing
00:51:56
phase and this is by jaina's father David remember we said that he was an officer in the Army yeah and he told the
00:52:06
judge you know I've been in combat situations I've seen young men that have had to bloody other people
00:52:16
and the first time it's very difficult the second time it gets easier and the third time even easier after that if you
00:52:25
let this woman get parole and someday let out of prison then the same would be true for Brittany
00:52:32
Norwood this individual must be removed from society forever [Music] thanks everybody for joining us here in
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the garage this week and thanks for telling a friend let the TCG hoodie countdown begin right Captain yeah yeah
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thanks for the support love ya until next time be good be kind and don't litter [Music]
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