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grab a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] we're keeping a close eye on a missing
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person's case in dallas county missouri 33-year-old cassidy rainwater is missing
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she went to high school in harrisonville her case is drawing a lot of attention on social media due to the circumstances
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investigative reporter angie roccono has been tracking the developments and joins
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us from the newsroom there is so much mystery and intrigue in this case that has fueled social media
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speculation two men have been charged with kidnapping inflicting injury and terrorizing that's james phelps and
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timothy norton the sheriff posted on friday more charges are expected in the coming days we are watching for that the
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sheriff previously released a statement saying due to the extreme nature of the crime he's not providing details here's
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what we do know pictures have been found of cassidy partially nude and in a cage
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the fbi has been involved cassie rainwater is still missing her trail led to this rural property owned by suspect
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james phelps investigators have been searching the grounds while the men are in jail the springfield bomb squad was
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called in and a fire broke out last week the house burned to the ground speculation is there was a trip wire and
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that's why the bomb squad was called in this case is all over social media videos are being made on tick tock
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redick has threads bloggers are speculating about cannibalism the sheriff blasted all of the attention and
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speculation on this case saying much of it is not true although he used a more colorful word he reminded everyone
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investigations take time in the real world and this isn't a tv series or movie cassidy rainwater's own mother
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went missing back in 2007 her remains were eventually found scattered in a field by a farmer according to the
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associated press we will keep you posted on charges and developments in cassidy rainwater's case reporting from the
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newsroom angie roccono kctv 5 news when we left off yesterday captain we were about to go through the rumors
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coming out in this case but before we get to those rumors a couple of updates that i was able to confirm in regards to
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some questions we had about the case this is in regards to the tip that came in we were wondering how that situation
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all came about there's a little bit of information on that and regarding the photos that were found on
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phelps's phone so a couple quick statements that i found in september the fbi's kansas city
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office so it was the kansas city fbi office that received an anonymous tip from a
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person who says they shared photos including one of what appeared to be rainwater's partially nude body inside a
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cage so it doesn't completely clean that up for us but again this story is not necessarily breaking news but it's still
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very new and we're still waiting for a lot of information to come out so now that we have some confirmation as to
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how that tip came about wanted to make sure we included it here also in regards to his phone there's a statement in an
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article that now says authorities arrested james phelps on september 16th after seizing
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his cell phone and discovering seven photos of partially nude cassidy rainwater being kept inside a cage
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according to court records so they seized his phone before they arrested him finding those photos right
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now again some of the rumors in this case include the finding of meat hooks on the
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property on the phelps property by law enforcement officials acts of cannibalism additional victims possibly
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the remains of up to 12 or 13 people found on the property additional suspects caged victims
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and transporting kidnapped victims or remains across state lines and that these two
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may even be responsible for the missing springfield 3 may have been involved or responsible for the springfield 3 case
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we'll address each one of these as we go along here but just in case someone is not familiar the short wiki version of
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the case the springfield 3 case details are that the springfield 3 refers to an unsolved missing persons case that began
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on june 7th 1992 when friends suzanne streeter and stacy mccall and streeter's mother cheryl levitt
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all went missing from levitt's home in springfield missouri all of their personal belongings
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including vehicles and purses were left behind there was no sign of a struggle except
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for a broken porch-like globe there was also a message on the answering machine that police believe
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might have provided leads in the disappearances and as you remember captain that was inadvertently
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erased so the police were only able to be told what the message said second hand now long time listeners know that
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us two your boys the garage guys we covered the springfield three case back in april of 2017.
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wow that's starting to feel like a long time ago this would be episodes 97 and 98 should
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anyone want to go back deep into the catalog and listen to those fascinating episodes in those
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episodes we reviewed a lot of suspects in the springfield 3 case but of course not james phelps and
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timothy norton because these two who it looks to me are obviously guilty of something
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and unfortunately it appears to be that the something or some things that they are guilty of are some pretty heinous
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and horrific acts but phelps and norton were unknowns back in april of 2017 unknowns to us and everyone else now we
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are not saying these guys are good for the springfield three case but let's pretend for a second that they are
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well they are [ __ ] bags that's what makes these rumors beyond terrifying because if they are in any way
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responsible for the kidnappings of three persons from springfield in 1992 well cassie rainwater does not go
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missing until july of this year 2021 some 29 years later and no one in their right mind i believe would think for a
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second that these two kidnapped three people and did god knows what to them in 1992
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and then just took a long break and decided in july of 2021 29 years later oh i'd like to resume my dirty
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deeds and pick up where i left off right thunder cheap dunder cheap well also this property kind of reminds you of
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todd kohlhepp and also the murder that took place in northern ohio around findlay ohio
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a guy that had a barn with the freezer well unfortunately these kind of acts and what some of these individuals you
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know serial killers and serial abductors and rapists want to do requires a certain amount of privacy
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requires a certain amount of seclusion so you can do these things and carry out these horrible acts and so these types
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will they desire a property similar to this and that's why i think to me the hair stands up on the back of my
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neck when i hear oh well phelps was renting this property and he has other properties what what does this creep
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need other properties for or what is he doing with multiple properties or this one in
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particular now a couple more things on the timeline here captain on october 4th 2021 from the news report a home near
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lebanon missouri connected to phelps was burned to the ground we had mentioned that on yesterday's show the dallas
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county sheriff's office says phelps 58 was renting the home a dallas county deputy had alerted a firefighter
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after discovering a trip wire near the home and then a call went out to bring in the springfield bomb squad
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so hours later the bomb squad detonated this suspicious device whatever it was now rachel nicholson who moved to
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lebanon recently says she saw the home go up in flames from a distance quote all of a sudden the house collapsed and
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the flames got bigger and we could feel the heat said nicholson everything was on fire and we sat there and watched it
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collapse i called 9-1-1 because i was worried about it catching the woods on fire and like going to the other houses
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end quote the missouri state fire marshal's office is investigating the fire cause
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which caused a total loss to the home now you know me captain i'm not one to believe or even want to believe rumors
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but i do think that the local scuttlebutt can have some meaning in an unsolved case or offer some possible
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lead but one thing that our talks with john douglas told us is that normal people
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don't just wake up one day and kidnap and kill there are things crimes behaviors and
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such in their background that lead up to those types of extreme acts but also captain what makes me pause
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and wonder if there could be some truth to some of these many rumors is normal people also don't just wake up
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one day and arm their properties with trip wires right that once activated will burn the whole damn place to the
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ground right but back to what you were saying about these local rumors a lot of these cases that go unsolved
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take for example the mar murray case you get this rumor that these three individuals worked at loon mountain and
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didn't show up to work the day mara went missing and and when you're investigating a case
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like that you don't know if there's much weight or validity or anything backing up these local rumors
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but i don't like to dismiss those because normally where there's smoke there's fire and now we have a situation
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in that case where there they discovered uh skeleton remains and hair remains that was buried in the loon
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mountains and now we're just waiting for confirmation on on who that individual is verbatim from
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one report in a springfield bomb squad report investigators say that they found an
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incendiary device during a fire at the home at the center of this kidnapping case
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in the report it claims investigators found the explosive device in a mortar tube with a balloon cover it featured
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tripwires thankfully no firefighter was injured in the battle of this fire according to the incident report
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the incident is labeled as second-degree arson i'm guessing that there's probably some
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additional investigation that needs to be done to confirm if they want to move forward
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with second-degree arson or elevate that charge to something else the report also
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says around forty thousand dollars was lost from the fire uh forty thousand dollars in damages i guess from the fire
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and the classification is undetermined and criminal currently as it sits on october 5th phelps and norton both
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appeared before a dallas county judge via a webcam both represented by different public
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offenders during this hearing prosecutors asked for 45 days until the preliminary hearing
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due to the number of witnesses needed the state asked for 45 days but the defense objected
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based on state supreme court requirements that allows for only a 30-day period this is because they're
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being charged they're being held in the jail they can't leave until they have this preliminary hearing and at their
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defense they're going to point out look if these guys aren't guilty you can't keep them
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here forever right dallas county prosecutor jonathan barker said that if he still isn't ready to proceed after 30
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days that he will file a motion for more time a judge set a preliminary hearing for november 5th
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starting at 9 30 a.m so convenient or not convenient this fire goes down right before they're about to have their first
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encounter with the judge via webcam after that goes down the investigators they return to the
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scene of the fire during daylight hours to analyze the area trying to figure out
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how the fire started to begin with unfortunately having the task of looking for more tripwires right to make sure
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that they themselves are not in danger while being present on this property a woman who lives near the home
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she wanted her to conceal her identity for her own protection of course says quote if these people have committed
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such horrible crimes as they are accused i hope the legal system prosecutes them
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to the fullest extent i am very upset by it captain let's get into the rumors and i want to start off with
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just the location itself wendyville spookyville some call it now depending on where you are in the great city of
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springfield missouri and the small unincorporated town of windyville we're talking about an hour to
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an hour and 20 minutes drive time from springfield to wendyville so to me when one of the rumors says that these guys
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might be or may have been involved in the springfield 3 case i mean it does sound like a stretch
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a bit but keep in mind the proximity and i'm happy that the good folks of this area refuse to just forget about
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three missing women no matter how old the case is yeah it's it's one of the most popular true crime cases of all
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time you can't just let it go correct and i think that it's not just the proximity that some think that these
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could be these guys could be involved but the key thing here is the van there was a van that was found on the property
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so there's overhead photographs that were taken of this property that was burnt down basically and
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and people saw this van well there was rumors to believe that that's how the springfield 3 were abducted was
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a guy using a van but i also think you put these two individuals in a time frame they're old enough that they could
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have been involved and also there being two of them right it would make sense or
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at least it was considered at the time in our episodes we we referenced several suspects some of them were groups of
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people or more than one individual and anytime you have a case where you have multiple victims especially trying to
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corral them move them from place to place that can be very difficult and it gets a little easier the more
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perpetrators that you have involved unfortunately so with this speculation here it's not just the proximity and as you
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pointed out these guys are old enough to have been involved in something heinous
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back in 1992 but the major connection is the van we have a van in the springfield three
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case and now we have one being found on their property the van found on the phelps and norton property that's that's
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the big big link here in my opinion and some people are saying online that this resembles the van that police were
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looking for back in the summer of 1992. here is the infamous van tip received by
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police in 1992 in regards to the missing three women from springfield and this is taken from our old episode
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another tip this one came in about nine or ten days after the disappearance but around 6 30 a.m
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june 7 1992 this would be just hours after the last time the three women were last seen a
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woman was sitting on her front porch she says that she saw a green dodge van or a
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greenish dodge van and she believed that the van had been from the mid-1960s to the early 1970s she also said that the
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van was out of place not a vehicle owned by any of the neighbors on the block furthermore she noticed a young woman in
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the driver's seat that appeared to be very distressed the witness claimed hearing an unidentified male voice
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speaking to the driver saying back out slowly and don't do anything stupid the delay for her reporting this was just
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simply she was unaware that anything was going on when she finally heard about the
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missing women that's when the witness made the call and told authorities the woman driver she saw was definitely
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suzanne streeter one of the springfield three considering this testimony to be credible
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local police at the time decided to buy the same mottled van painted the color the witness believed
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it to be and parked it out front near the police station with a phone number to contact
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the police for any tips and information so they want to make sure that nobody misconstrues the information that
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they're putting out there this is the type of van that we're looking for we have a we're not just going to draw it
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for you we're not just going to put it out on a poster for you this is a physical representation of the van that
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we believe that we're looking for in this case have you seen it do you have any information let us know it's really
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smart idea because it's similar to like when you buy a jeep all of a sudden you start seeing those jeeps everywhere and
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even that color like maybe you're like well i'm going to buy that charcoal jeep i don't ever see a charcoal jeep and
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next thing you know that's all you see so i think it's a very smart tactic by law enforcement with this move from the
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springfield police back in 1992 traction in the case started picking up again this when a paperboy doing his
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deliveries described seeing this similar type of van but he says the one he saw was brown and states that he saw the van
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when it was dark outside so could not be certain of the actual color of the van over time more tips came in and the
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color of the van changed several times so this really great lead ends up turning into
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confusion a bit in the springfield case but again as said that tip was really at
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the center of the springfield 3 investigation so it's no wonder that it has stayed in the
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minds of locals and in fact when we were researching that case and retelling the
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story and talking about the case here in the garage it's one of those weird stories that you almost can visualize
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what that witness says that she was seeing early that one morning which again would
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have just been hours it's speculation but it's speculation coming from law enforcement just hours after the
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believed time that they were removed from the home well on all law enforcement can go off as eyewitnesses
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of the past and and eyewitnesses of an event that took place so long ago it's not like they can test this van in some
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way to let them know that it's the same van that was used and the disappearance of the springfield 3. the
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thing with the photos that i saw captain it looks to me like the van may have been inoperable
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before the fire right that nobody was using the van it actually looks to me like somebody had taken the tires off of
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this thing but if it's inoperable then one has to wonder don't you get curious and go well why are you holding on to
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this thing why are you so reluctant to let it go is there something that you're trying to
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hide now again i can't tell because i'm just looking at photos and we don't have
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any of the police or fire members to tell us what we are seeing but it does not look to me and i hope so
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i hope this is correct it does not look to me that the van was destroyed or ruined in the fire itself that the fire
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appears to me to have primarily damaged and literally destroyed the cabin it's i mean it was burnt to
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the ground you can see a wood-burning stove that was once probably in the center of that cabin
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you can see the wood burning stove metal and still standing there and the the debris the burnt remains of what was
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the cabin surrounding it if this van has carpet lining maybe you can take the carpet and test it for dna and as maybe
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as far-fetched as this idea or this rumor possibly is this is not the craziest of the rumors
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let's get on to some of the rumors here captain and look there's gonna be some people that want to throw tomatoes at me
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and you for jumping in on the rumors but uh or just being handsome we have a garage show to
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run here and this is a case that we can't take our eyes off of and so we're going to talk about it now the first of
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the rumors that i want to address is the finding of meat hooks on the property by
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law enforcement officials obviously until the police start telling us the things that they saw witnessed or
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found at the property in regards to this we're just going to be spinning our tires right we don't know if they found
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meat hooks now the online speculation has gone as far or the rumors have gone as far to say that police found or
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someone saw body parts hanging from these meat hooks that could be visible through either through one of
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the windows or just outside of the cabin itself it's a little foggy on the actual details of that i
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didn't spend a lot of time sifting through the details or the different stories because i mean if that was true
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there's no charges to justify what somebody claims they saw right and again i understand the reason for the
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speculation the theories and the rumors because of the sheriff's statements and the sheriff's department's statements it
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sounds to me like we're going to have additional charges there is some evidence that is unclear there are
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things that they found at the scene on the property that have not been told to the public so they're they're
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speculating at this point now to me some of these rumors sound very texas chainsaw massacre-ish you know
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something that you would see in a on the big screen and not even in that great of
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a horror film uh to begin with meat hooks with parts hanging from them i don't know well
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that kind of goes along with some of the claims of cannibalism this is all over the map as far as the
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rumors go of cannibalism one that they that phelps is participating in this that that's part of the reason why he's
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killing people uh that he has victims to begin with that norton might be involved in this
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cannibalism as well consuming human remains that yeah i think people know what chemical is that one well nobody i mean
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there's there's a lot of these different rumors out here so i'm kind of sifting through them one at a time here make
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sure they're clear one that they may have served some human remains to another individual or individuals that
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unknowingly consume them one of the rumors is that they found human meat being stored on the property
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other rumor is that he was consumed he was in the act of consuming that phelps was in the act of consuming human
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remains when police arrived on on one or if not their first visit again these are all things that sound like
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they're not just out of a movie but out of a really bad movie at that yeah but meat hooks isn't that far of a stretch i
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mean a lot of people use things like that in hunting yeah they they would hang the deer by the
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meat hooks that's right they sell meat hooks for other purposes yeah than committing these horrible crimes and as
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we stated earlier that's interesting that you bring that back into the fold here captain because
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we do know that one of these individuals that was living on the property has been
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charged with some type of game warden misdemeanor charges at some point in their life so this these could
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be active outdoors men i i do want to give our promo code for the whopper this portion of the show is
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sponsored by the whopper the other rumors are that there are additional victims and specifically it's been
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stated that possibly the remains of up to 12 or 13 people have been found on the property i think that
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this rumor comes from speculation that the police well the sheriff's department they spent
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a lot of time at the scene well i think the first thing that you do you look you're still looking for cassidy right
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right so you're gonna bring in scent dogs but on top of that worse you know worst case scenario you're
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looking for a body so you bring in cadaver dogs now cadaver dogs could hit on different parts of the property
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and that would lead them to have digs to look for her and in that process they could have
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found other remains possibly the the other thing that i wonder too that i think fuels the fire a little bit again
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that the amount of time that they've spent on this property that doesn't mean that they found a bunch of stuff it
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could mean as you're pointing out here captain simply that what they're looking for they have not found yet and they're
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refusing to leave that property until they either find it or know that it's not there
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and that item could be as you said cassidy rainwater's remains but there's no reports from law
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enforcement that they discovered her body yet or anybody else's or anybody else's for that matter which again makes
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me wonder who they're connected to as far as these the the sex offenders that are connected
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to the property and who are their connections and is it possible like you said here here could be a situation
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where phelps is renting this property he kidnaps the person then they they caged the individual and then because
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timothy is a truck driver that he then transports the victim somewhere yeah that is one of the
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thoughts and one of the other rumors here as far as additional suspects going as far as the
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registered sex offenders go it could be something as simple as years ago a registered sex offender
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rented that same property that has nothing to do with phelps or norton at all that they don't even know that
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individual what we do have that kind of clarifies or clears up some of the additional suspects statement is we have
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a statement from sheriff rice who says look everybody that we believe to be involved in the cassidy
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rainwater disappearance case is currently in jail without trying to piece his words together
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for him i've got to believe what he's saying there is we believe these two individuals are responsible we have
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evidence that shows that they are solely responsible the two of them right and we
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have them in custody right now the courts are going to shake this thing out and figure out what exactly
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happened here don't be don't be running wild with your thoughts and your theories with additional suspects no
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matter what you found or what report you read because we have two individuals that are locked up right now no i
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understand that but what we do know and what i'm saying about the sex trafficking we capture this individual
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we are going to then sell her to another individual but that individual is not known yet and that's possibly where law
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enforcement gets their tip because we we know that these images of cassidy were shared online
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why the heck would you share these online you can sift through all the reports and at the very minimum we know
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that at least one of these images made their way online somehow some way right right and what's the purpose of that
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you're exactly right here captain if you got concerns about human trafficking or
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selling an individual for any reason at all it seems like the dark web would be a
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place or a marketplace to do such activity right how did a photograph like this make it onto the internet
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and if phelps and norton were the only two that knew about this then one of them would have had to put the photo
00:33:17
online at some point right now in relation to the the caged victims and transporting
00:33:24
kidnap victims or remains across state lines there's been some speculation in regards to the cannibalism that maybe
00:33:32
they were even selling human meat somewhere somehow again seems very friday the 13th
00:33:41
texas chainsaw massacre-ish to me but what i think is more interesting when we talk about state lines right we have
00:33:49
timothy norton he drives a truck he's crossing state lines all the time i'm more concerned with the idea and the
00:33:58
probability of him procuring a victim and transporting them back to this cabin this secluded cabin with creep number
00:34:09
one and creep number two sitting around the old wood burning stove right that seems like something that would be
00:34:16
far more likely and when we talk about state lines and i guess if you're wanting to hide evidence he has the
00:34:23
ability that he has reason to be out on the road constantly he could be he could be dropping evidence
00:34:31
all along the way i guess from what i've found is that his truck is on this property and that there was
00:34:40
some type of his trailer it's been reported was one of these refrigerated trailers so one of the
00:34:49
rumors is that human remains or of some sort were found in this trailer again this is speculation
00:34:56
but uh certainly adds to the just the horrific thoughts that you can put into this case
00:35:06
and the possibilities in this case but yeah but it's not out of the realm of possibilities we see these individuals
00:35:12
all the time they're a suspect in one case and that leads to the discovery of several other
00:35:18
victims well and that's interesting captain because it it makes me think of a few different things here right
00:35:24
um first is something we've talked about plenty of times before linkage blindness
00:35:31
right for years john douglas and his team were trying to point out to sheriff departments and police departments
00:35:38
across this country to not be blinded to the possibility of linking these unsolved homicide cases
00:35:46
together right here you have what we've seen in some cases which is the reverse of that where the
00:35:54
public sees a case and then starts tacking on every crime unsolved murder kidnapping that they can
00:36:01
think of to this being almost a suspect zero type of situation we've seen that with the
00:36:07
zodiac right his crimes he committed them using different murder weapons in different locales so it's easy to just
00:36:15
kind of tack on a bunch of unsolved homicides that it took place in california or surrounding areas at
00:36:23
around that same time and say all right well the zodiac remember when he told us
00:36:28
it was zodiac score 35 and the san francisco pd score was zero right well here's your other
00:36:37
your other homicides that get us to that 35 number your boy cold case cameron he's told us that ed
00:36:44
edwards killed every person you could ever think of he's not my boy i know i know
00:36:49
i i joke i joke a funny theory cold case cameron he's got some interesting theories on ed edwards maybe
00:36:56
it's like shooting fish in a barrel at some point if you just throw enough of them out there you're going to be right
00:37:00
on one or two of them yeah the this reminds me also of uh bruce macarthur from canada the canadian serial killer
00:37:10
he was putting them putting the victims remains in planters planters right he was just burying them in the planters
00:37:16
right because we had the jimmy rice case which that monster that killed that boy
00:37:21
he he put he cemented or concrete i don't know that there is a difference between the two i'm a dumb guy that
00:37:27
hangs out in a garage all day i don't know the difference between cement or concrete and we sniff glue
00:37:34
we but he huff and paint so yeah i can't macarthur was just burying the the remains in these large planters from
00:37:42
my understanding yeah and the bruce mcarthur it's toronto's missing men part one and two is episodes 191 and
00:37:52
192. on your garage radio dial but i also think that maybe some of these rumors are coming from
00:38:00
the severity of i don't even know if severity is the right word but it's a horrifying
00:38:06
image to see yeah the pictures from the fire and whatnot yeah i think when you see
00:38:12
those pictures of cassidy in the cage where law enforcement sees those pictures it makes you speculate on what these
00:38:20
animals and monsters are capable of doing because you know they're capable of this
00:38:26
horrendous crime well and it makes sense too when you reference a woman being held captive in a cage
00:38:35
the thoughts that go through everybody's minds out there in listener land and in
00:38:39
parts unknown it's your imagination runs wild but it runs wild because we've been trained to think
00:38:47
that way we've been told to think that way and rightfully so when we spoke with john douglas what did he tell us that
00:38:54
the number one thing that he found to be true in most of the cases of these serial killers especially
00:39:00
especially the sexually motivated predators was that ideally this is their goal they would rather have a sex slave or a
00:39:10
captive victim that they can victimize again and again right they're only serial killers because at some point
00:39:18
they take it too far or they're forced to kill their victim because they don't have a victim captive or do not have the
00:39:24
ability to do so in fact you talk to a lot of old retired fbi agents that have worked serial cases and they'll
00:39:31
reference an old i believe it's an english novel the collector it's a story about a psychotic
00:39:38
man who abducts a young woman and holds her captive and they reference this because they believe that that is the
00:39:45
the general fantasy that is shared by most of these types so i think that it's it's fair for all of us
00:39:54
to think this way and to speculate and to to want to know the truth behind these rumors
00:40:02
whether they are true or not and i think we're going to find out a lot more about
00:40:06
this hopefully we find out more about this stuff when this court date rolls around next
00:40:12
month now we have ky3 news who we are being told from ky3 news that their team of reporters has been in
00:40:22
constant contact with the dallas county sheriff's office specifically with the sheriff himself scott rice however no
00:40:30
further details are being released pending those forensic results that they're waiting on
00:40:36
they being the reporters are basically on standby waiting for more or if anything new pops up they
00:40:43
will be on it so right we will be hearing something should anything come out or come of
00:40:49
any of this information now we should give the good sheriff his due and voice his opinions of the rumors swirling
00:40:57
around we know some of his thoughts because in a facebook post sheriff rice addressed rumors in the investigation
00:41:03
into the disappearance of cassidy rainwater he wrote that he's upset with social
00:41:08
media and bloggers thinking that they know what is happening and says quote there is a lot of misinformation
00:41:15
circulating in the case an online article from officer.com i took some little pieces from this
00:41:22
article here they are one says three weeks into a massive criminal investigation that's drawn viral
00:41:29
attention the southwest missouri sheriff leading the probe went on a rant on his
00:41:34
department's facebook page dallas county sheriff scott rice took aim at fake news
00:41:40
social media and people who he said are too impatient and entitled to wait for the justice system to work quote there
00:41:48
is a lot of misinformation and rumors regarding the cassidy rainwater case being circulated across social media and
00:41:55
various news platforms rice wrote while i understand the impatience and curiosity of the people i'm going to
00:42:02
give you a piece of advice it's not a good idea to listen to a crime reporter slash blogger or tick
00:42:08
tock view or tick tock videos that is sitting in their apartment or their mommy and daddy's basement eating
00:42:15
great value cheese puffs and drinking box wine well well excuse me sir we're in a garage with grand intentions of
00:42:22
being a social media superstar and and hold on and we have no intentions of being any kind of superstar well i don't
00:42:29
think he's talking to us specifically maybe or maybe he was he criticized the quote crap posted on social media about
00:42:36
the case he dropped the first tidbits of news that have been released within days
00:42:41
uh that was the statement that we kind of reviewed earlier captain where he says
00:42:46
the quote i can tell you we have all parties involved with cassidy rainwater's case in jail end quote and
00:42:53
he did say quote we expect additional charges to be filed in the coming days again
00:42:59
it's it's statements like that though that i think fuel the fire a little bit for some of these rumors i'm not
00:43:03
faulting the sheriff i'm not even faulting anybody else out there in that live nearby or or live in
00:43:10
california florida new york city or what have you for speculating on this case i
00:43:16
personally think that it's somewhat healthy to to do so it's a mystery we're concerned that wow yeah and we're
00:43:23
trying to figure out what exactly happened so well at the end of the day were were humans
00:43:30
and there was a human that was in these pictures in a cage cassidy was a real person we want to
00:43:39
know what happened and we don't have answers to that so yeah we're going to speculate but we got
00:43:44
to remember what john douglas told us remember when he said true crime garage you guys are the best
00:43:50
to ever do it number one true crime podcast of all time i'm sure he appreciates you making
00:43:57
up statements for him but um in regards to this here captain it's on record i i understand the rumors that are coming
00:44:05
out here he's saying that 99.99 of what has been posted on social media is crap his statement about
00:44:14
we will have or will be seeking further charges is interesting but again does not
00:44:22
necessarily mean that they found anything that they've not told us about because
00:44:26
those those additional charges may simply come from a couple of possibilities one the arson
00:44:34
itself right they've already i don't know that they've 100 declared that it was absolutely arson or they
00:44:41
just are suspicious of it so far right from my understanding what is what the charge would be on that is
00:44:50
involuntary second-degree arson charges well that very easily could elevate itself to
00:44:58
first-degree involuntary or premeditated arson so in relation to the arson we could see additional charges also in the
00:45:08
disappearance case of cassidy rainwater herself we could see additional charges again right now they're only being
00:45:13
charged with kidnapping that could be elevated to unfortunately homicide or additional charges
00:45:21
so it's likely and the sheriff is it's likely that we will see additional charges i think that and what i hope is
00:45:27
that they didn't stay on that property for as long as they did because they couldn't find anything else right and
00:45:34
again that that goes back to my thoughts i i don't necessarily think that them being there so long indicates that they
00:45:42
were finding things that were useful to their case i'm worried that they weren't finding
00:45:47
what they thought they would find there when they arrived well maybe the spookiest thing about this case
00:45:55
is not only did cassidy go missing but her mother went missing as well yeah so cassidy rainwater's mother tracy wassup
00:46:04
went missing in 2007. based on previous kolr-10 reporting her mother tracy her remains were found
00:46:14
scattered in a field near lebanon a year later so went missing in 2007 her remains are found scattered in this
00:46:23
field that's not incredibly far from windyville it's not you know real close to this property
00:46:32
but it's in the same part of the state as where these two individuals live the this article that i found goes on to
00:46:40
say here captain quote it was unusual some of the statements made by people that will have to go on with the new
00:46:47
evidence we have here and see where it leads us and this is what the lock lead county sheriff richard wrinkle is
00:46:56
telling the news and this was his statement to the news after the remains themselves were found now
00:47:03
for my understanding tracy's disappearance was reported as suspicious but no cause of death has ever been
00:47:10
released on her case and no one has ever been arrested in that case yeah but if her remains
00:47:17
were scat pretty much assume it's homicide we do we do have the lockley county coroner steve merrell who tells ozark
00:47:27
first it's still an open case this in regards to cassidy's mother and merle says that at
00:47:34
this time he does not believe that there is any connection between cassidy's disappearance and her mother's death
00:47:41
again her mother went missing in 2007 and then remains were found the following year maybe it's not likely but
00:47:48
it's not impossible and hopefully we get more answers for cassidy rainwater as these two monsters
00:47:56
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