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crime we're discussing The Disappearance of 20-year-old Indiana University student Lauren spear she was out for a
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night of partying with her friends and then in the early morning hours of June 3rd 2011 she is last seen leaving her
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friends apartment Jason rosenbom now he watches her leave this is about 4:30 in the morning and he watches her leave and
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he says that he sees her walk up 11th Street now this is the last time that she is seen since her disappearance
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there has been several theories that have come about as well as obvious suspects thus being her boyfriend and
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the three guys that she was hanging out with that night well let's dive into the
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first Theory and this is the foul play theory yes originally the police had said that they expected Foul Play from
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the beginning um they thought that this would be involved because Lauren had not
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communicated with anyone since her disappearance now this could mean a lot of different things and it what one
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thing that it could mean is that maybe someone had picked her up you know we had said about her size she she's small
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uh she there's things going on that night that make her an ideal Target if she was where her friends say she was
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she was small she was intoxicated and she was alone yeah all those factors would make her easy to grab easy to
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control or let's say that you didn't want to grab her because you didn't want someone to see you doing that MH now I
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don't I'm not saying that this would be true with Lauren but we do know that a lot of killers have got a lot of victims
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into their cars with the promise of drugs yeah and well yeah but the the other thing that I have
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not heard anywhere is that we do have one witness saying I had to pick her up and carry her back and she lost her
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shoes her phone at the bar then loses her purse and and all these other belongings or keys on the way back to
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their apartment what if she was just walking alone and then just was like I I'm going
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to stop here to rest I'm tired I'm just going to lay down for a minute now you got this passed out individual on the
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side of the road that is not that heavy so this could be a very opportunist thing you know somebody driving around
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and especially in these highly you know I can't speak for Bloomington I can just
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speak for Ohio State campus but if you go there on a Saturday night Friday Saturday night you know that scene is is
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is busy you know there's Walkers there's communi there's people out and about there's a lot of people if I was looking
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to arm somebody and looking for a easy prey a college campus is a perfect location oh yeah there's all these weird
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Alleyways and there's you know and there's tons of underage people intoxicated and walking and then walking
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alone so you know she could have just been passed out somewhere it's a whole community of pedestrians and a lot of
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them on a Friday night or late Thursday they're walking back to their place um the thing here though Captain is the
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surveillance footage you know we when we went through the timeline we discussed all these different sightings of her on
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these different cameras using camera footage from different apartment complexes and such that saw her walking
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with Corey back to her apartment and then seeing them walk to his apartment the problem I have here is you know
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we've we've seen what they've released you know they've released some pictures of her the problem is where why aren't
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we seeing more of this surveillance footage because we have this story of these guys stating that she left on her
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own she walked out of here by herself now if if your theory is possible Foul Play or your theory is that one of these
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guys might have done something if we could see this what is on that surveillance footage that you're not
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releasing and and to be honest with you Captain it's very uncommon for them not to release this surveillance footage
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right and I think there's you know there has been some clip CPS cuz I've seen some little snid bits my question is is
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there surveillance footage of her leaving her friend's apartment yeah because it cuz if so then all those
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eyewitness accounts somewhat check out up to that point yeah and now did she take off walking to me it'd be more
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likely that she'd run into somebody else that caused foul play outside of this group of four or possibly even the
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ex-boyfriend because the ex-boyfriend claims now let's just talk about his Alibi he claims that he finished
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watching game six and then he went to sleep so now his roommate states that this was true but they really don't have
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a solid Alibi for where he was you know cuz he could have went to his room his roommate goes to sleep and he gets up
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you know two 2 o' 4:00 in the morning where's he at where's his Alibi yeah yeah you're right and I don't mean to to
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correct you here but it was it it was game two of the NBA Finals oh did I say game six yeah you got excited there it
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did go six games Okay um now the thing here is you're exactly right he says he's at home watching this game the game
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was over just around midnight um his roommate states that uh he ended up going to bed Jesse went to bed at 2:30
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in the morning um right is how solid is that you know how concrete is that information what happened after 230
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could he have snuck out and I'm not saying that roommate's a liar I'm just saying the roommate might not know well
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and then the other possibility is that she may not have left those apartments as well right and that their stories
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don't check out and that's why I'm calling into question about this surveillance footage you know they they
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had footage of the two of them walking into that alley and then they have footage of them coming out of the alley
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on the way back to Cory's place if she would have taken the same route and I don't know that she would have but had
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she taken the same route to get home or to return to where she was going you know do they have footage of her going
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into that alley and then not footage of her coming back out you know all these things would point us into some better
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Direction rather than these these four theories yeah it's this very blurry area that we wish we had more answers
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basically well and that leads us to police Theory number two this is the Inner Circle theory that someone in her
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Inner Circle had done something bad to her you know this could obviously mean her boyfriend or any of the other
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friends the guys that she was hanging out with that night right and like I said I think initially it's a little odd
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you know uh normally people that are dating in their early 20s they're not as mature so to have a bunch of friends of
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the opposite sex might not be the coolest thing and the fact that this guy's just like well I'm just going to
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stay at home and watch the game and you're going to go hang out with three other dudes by the way you're going to
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also get drunk with them oh you're going to be alone in their apartments with them I don't know about this yeah one
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thing I did when I was researching this case was I had to kind of step back and take away and and kind of throw out what
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I thought maybe Lauren's motives were for that evening you know I I just I just have to kind of chalk it up to
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maybe she just wanted to go out and have a good time I wasn't trying to Girls Just Want to Have Fun yeah because I
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think if you try to read too much into what you know any one of these people in this group was trying to accomplish that
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night it really could sway you in a weird Direction mhm and we're going to stay on this Inner Circle Theory here
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and I tell you why Captain because really when you when you look at the police theories the first initial four
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theories you could really kind of Encompass all of those theories into this Inner Circle Theory any any of
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those could be possible with any of these members of the Inner Circle yeah so we have the the boyfriend yes now his
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motive would be that she was out with some guys and maybe that he was jealous of this mhm and so therefore he murdered
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her retaliation now I think his well you know his Alibi is not completely solid I
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think he def it's a reasonable Alibi exactly and I think with that so let's just put him to the side for a second
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yes then the next guy you have is the guy she's hanging out with the most Cory right and we now you know for the record
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they're just friends but his motive could be sexual you know men are dogs that's how we are it's possible yeah
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it's it's reasonable to suspect that and so the the idea the idea here would have
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to be that he wanted to have sexual advances with her and that was not happening so therefore he killed her or
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he raped her and killed her but the problem with this is they hung out with you know he hung out with her so much
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and even though Lauren was small I mean she's this partying rock star right MH maybe I glorified that too much but you
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know anyway she's holding her own and he by the time they get back he carries her
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and I think that to me is a sign that this guy is trying to get lucky like I'll carry her back I don't care well
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and mind you this is the the part that I have a big issue with with Corey is that
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they are at her apartment I mean they're not physically inside her apartment they're in the apartment complex and he
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could have delivered her to her place and left her there and and that didn't happen for what and we don't know we
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don't know maybe Lauren was part of that saying no let's change my mind these guys are jerks let's go to your
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right let's keep yeah let's keep the party going but it seems odd to me that they're there and I want to know more
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about him being punched because my thought on on one level is if there's not like some solid story backing that
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then maybe he did something with her and she attacked him and that's how he ended
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up with the black eye that's and then this guy lawyers up and says and here's the problem again everybody in the Inner
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Circle the four major suspect ects that we need to look into they all lawyered up yeah right so let's just talk a
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little and I don't know if I covered this so the boyfriend he helps with a couple searches after a couple searches
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his parents come lawyer him up so now he's not talking to the police and then Corey lawyers up you know but now all
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their lawyers say but we're being cooperative with law enforcement but so anyways so with the Corey they
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the problem I have with that what doesn't make a lot of sense is I I know that he's with her the most so he's the
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number one suspect in my eyes more so than the current boyfriend and he had some kind of
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assault whether he provoked it or not sometimes you're just being a drunk idiot and somebody punches you he might
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have not really been doing anything shady um but he throws up and then passes out yeah and so he has the same
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if not better Alibi than the current boyfriend yeah yeah his his his theory or his statement stating that you you
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should believe me because I I threw up I got sick I went to bed and not only that
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I was not the last person to see her and you have my roommate backing up my story
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as well right um well you have actually two individuals backing up his story because you have two people that saw her
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after him correct right so then you have Michael the roommate of Corey and he you
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know is basically forced to try to look after this intoxicated girl and he's trying to get rid of her so again I
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don't think there's anything bad there I mean whether he was studying at home or
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not you don't actually believe that he I was just kind of teasing right but whether whether or not he's you know
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maybe he's just hanging out you know playing video games you know he's just relaxing whatever he's just at home and
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that happens all the time where you're just like hey it's a you know it's a Friday or it's a whatever day of the
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week it is and you're just going to watch a movie but you live on campus well that movie might be interrupted by
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15 drunk people or 15 drunk friends or two drunk friends and then then it becomes well I just wanted to relax in
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evening now I'm dealing with drunk people and there's nothing there's probably not much there's probably not
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much more annoying thing in the world than being sober around intoxicated people it's extremely annoying uh the
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the thing here is Captain you know I'm I'm leaving the boyfriend aside like you said okay but I'm going to focus on
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these three guys Corey Michael Jason M and if we are to believe Corey Michael and Jason they all have the same story
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you know they tell the same timeline if we're to believe their story works then in my opinion this Michael guy the the
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roommate of Cory he actually has he would be the least likely suspect to me out of the three of
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these guys he seems to have the the least amount of involvement with this whole story and I wouldn't know what his
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motive would be other than oh this drunk girl just showed up and now I'm going to
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murder yeah and he and he seems to have passed her off you know taking her to Jason's apartment right you know this
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being around 3:30 in the morning so in under this scenario you have Cory who's spent the most time with her and it's a
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little convenient that he doesn't seem to remember anything after being punched in the face or even remember much of
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that incident at all yeah which is crazy cuz he says well I I blacked out but then how do you know that you carried
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her mhm like it's one or the other you know I mean and the thing here though is then Michael takes her to to Jason's and
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she's there for about an hour according to Jason and if these stories check out Jason is the last one to see her before
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she disappears thus to me making him the second most likely I still keep Cory still keep Cory at that number one spot
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right so then what's the third Theory by the police the third theory is that she
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would have been drugged at the bar or drugged sometime during that night you know she's out partying she's drinking a
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lot somebody put something in her drink um which is very possible it's very possible I actually think that if
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someone put something in her drink that it would have been somebody she was hanging out with that Knight um I I know
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it it's it can happen that they just happen to stop off at this bar for 45 minutes and someone slip something in
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her drink there that that obviously can happen but I don't understand how that works out if it's a stranger does this
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guy just kind of follow them around and stand around and wait till 4:30 in the morning to see her again alone you know
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what I mean it seems a bit random to me um where it yeah I think if she was drugged it's probably more likely she
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was drugged by somebody she was hanging out with I would have liked to have known how intoxicated she was at the bar
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um you know was was this falling down drunk was this something that they saw coming or was this something that just
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all of a sudden was brought on ladies and gentlemen trust me we've now this is what 92 episodes or something like that
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we have talked a lot of a lot of cases where we talk about date date rape or or drugging somebody's drug drink mhm be
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careful when you're out drinking make sure that you're watching your drink and your friend drinks everybody not just
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ladies everybody be careful I said ladies and gentlemen well thank you yeah and the thing too they say always make
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sure that it's the bartender handing you your drink not somebody else well but well you need to watch the bartenders as
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well because the joy of the but case that we're talking about you know I've been diving into some new stuff there
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and there was some reports of you know I I have some friends that have been uh this is speculation speculation but I
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do have some friends that have been at bars in that area that had they they believe that they were roofied and they
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watched their drink the whole time and they think the only way that they could have been date rape drug or rofi would
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been by the bartender and this ladies and gentlemen is the reason why the captain is a
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recluse no no it's cuz of Howard Hughes so uh please Theory number four this is the overdose theory that uh something
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that she overdosed that night we talked about a lot of partying going on that night and that her friends or a friend
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got scared and dumped the body or hid the body somewhere because of the overdose right which I I I think okay a
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couple things one we we do not have a body we do not know where Lauren is MH so we do not have any kind of toxicology
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report or anything right so we don't know how much of anything was in in her system right it's it's believed that she
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was consuming quite a bit of alcohol we are told that she was also doing cocaine
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and snorting kopin you we heard the rumor of possible ecstasy being involved um and then that's a crazy cocktail yeah
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I mean any any three of these four together would be crazy um we also have the finding of the cocaine at her
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apartment that that may back some of this up in my opinion it certainly points towards backing it up a little
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bit but but I guess you could go either way um again we I still think that we need more information on the whole
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situation she did have that Long QT syndrome though this would be a heart condition okay this I'm not a doctor but
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I'm guessing that having a heart condition and doing potential drugs that could increase your heart rate or slow
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them down or confuse your body would would even make a potential uh bad cocktail lethal yeah and you know
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heart disease aside I mean we already have that report that clopin is a very deadly you know a thing a drug to mix
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with alcohol you should not mix that with anything and you should not be using that unless directed by a doctor
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um Lauren's family has plenty of times voiced their suspicions about her friends that she was hanging out with
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that KN as well as her boyfriend uh pointing out that they have all refused police issued polygraph test
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they all have retained lawyers very quickly into this investigation or The Disappearance of Lauren right so it
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sounds like Lauren's parents are at at the very least believe one or more of these dudes know more than what they are
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willing to tell us well I definitely think they do but I think some of that is that they have a reputation and they
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don't want to you know come out and say well I was on this drug too or you know there a lot of people will say oh well
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well Mom and Dad well I was hanging out with her but I you know I was just drinking I wasn't doing that other stuff
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mhm you know well and I think you touched upon something that I was thinking about too was that I think you
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could make an argument either way on this situation you could make an argument for Lauren's parents that these
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guys have not cooperated but I think you on some level could make an argument that they have cooperated um if in fact
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she did leave on her own accord how how responsible how much are they how much do they have to be involved I guess is
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what I'm saying as far as the investigation goes well they they weren't forcing her to drink and they
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weren't forcing her to do drugs if there was no ruy MH so you know she is responsible for that you know I think
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you know it comes down to some somewhat privilege you know and I think you know let's just be honest she was she's a
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white female all four suspects are white males MH family probably has some kind of financial backing
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you know the the boyfriend helps for two days it's your girlfriend since high school and you help for two days and
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then you lawyer up that's a little fishy and then everybody else lawyers up right
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away and yes it's a police polygraph and I don't know how much I trust that now you were telling me that some of them
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actually have taken polygraphs yeah so this is the the the guys have responded to the Spear's public suspicions by
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saying that they have taken privately ad administered polygraphs as well as one from the FBI Now that statement is a
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little confusing to me because I'm not sure if that means that all of them have taken an FBI administered test or if
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just one of them has um if they have if all of them have I see no reason why the
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FBI test shouldn't more than suffice for a Bloomington Police Department test right you know Bloomington to me is a is
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a college town it's not New York City it's not Washington DC I would think that the FBI have better test you know
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than most larger police agencies with a lot of funding and a lot of resources and I would love to know what questions
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were asked and I'd love to know what the results of those tests were yeah that's
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that's something key there Captain because were these softball questions you know were these PIV privately
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administered polygraphs that were at the request of their own lawyers you know we've seen situations where a defense
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attorney will take somebody on as their client but they subject them to a polygraph test because they want to get
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a feel if the person's actually innocent or not so they know how to construct their investigation you know the defense
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of their client yeah it it's really hard for me to think that if I'm partying with people and somebody ow deed that I
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wouldn't be calling 911 right away I would party with your body for like for the next few hours take you to
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Waffle House like um weekend at Bernie Yeah dance dance me around no but it's like look I yeah I think there's some
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privilege here but I don't think you know when the there's a retired FBI agent that's on this case and one of his
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things and one of his theories is that she Ed and they got scared and the last thing that you know young 20 some year
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old guys want is the police involved no the last thing they want is their for their friends dead yeah right to OD and
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yes you are you are on drugs but you can call the ambulance like to me that's the first step I mean
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these obviously these guys are at this higher quote unquote higher education right
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so you know the the idea that they would just take her and dump her into the Ohio
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River opposed to calling the ambulance seems a little ludicrous to me mhm and the thing like I said before Witnesses
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say that she was doing cocaine and kipin uh were those Witnesses those same dudes
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um because then you could take it take it either way either a they've come clean with
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what they know and they've admitted to illegal activity or now they're making some [ __ ] up because they've done
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something even worse right right but then at that point it's not about ODOT maybe these individuals were you know
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they did some sick [ __ ] it was it was a a raping murder dump her body into the
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river you know but this whole idea that well they just wouldn't call the cops they wouldn't they wouldn't call
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ambulance I mean you could if the last thing you want the last thing you want is a dead body but the second thing you
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don't want is the cops well okay there's a step in between somebody do ODed let's
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call the ambulance you don't have to call the cops you call the ambulance mhm or you drive that individual to a
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hospital it did it makes you know these are people that or are friends with her or at least acquaintances with her
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they're not just going to like oh well [ __ ] what are we going to do let's just
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put her in a bag and dump dump her in a river that doesn't make a lot of sense to me and I really like and most of the
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time I'm very on the side of FBI agents but for some reason every time they go to that theory I just you know it
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doesn't make a lot of sense to me well we got some even stranger theories to get to right after this quick beer
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want to go through this newspaper article that came out April 2013 and it's titled remains are found in
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Indiana remains were found in a remote area of Indiana and a lot of people suspected that these would be the
00:30:56
remains of of college student Laurence spear wow that's that's pretty interesting Brown County chief deputy
00:31:02
coroner Earl Piper told Fox News that the remains discovered belong to 26-year-old Kate mcgrail who was
00:31:11
reported missing in April of 2010 The Remains were found on a private property by two women looking for mushrooms well
00:31:18
that's what I normally do well originally they had just found a skull but when they called it in and the
00:31:25
authorities came out the other remains were found uh Piper said that the identification was made through dental
00:31:31
records and no cause of death has been released now while the bones were found a couple weeks before this article had
00:31:39
actually come out they waited till they had identified them um authorities began
00:31:43
to investigate whether they had belonged to missing women in the area this including spear so so think about this
00:31:51
for a second you are a family member of Lauren who has gone missing or or a loved one or a friend or whatever and
00:31:58
this news comes out that there are remains found and I imagine that it this is the nightmare that all of these
00:32:04
people all of these victims go through in these disappeared type cases that anytime somewhere in an area close to
00:32:11
where they went disappeared if if remains are found now you're drugged back into the story you're reliving the
00:32:16
nightmare again you're hoping and praying that it's that it's not her or maybe you're praying that it is her so
00:32:22
you can finally get some answers and bring her home right or get some closure Kate MCG was a graduate of Indiana
00:32:28
University she was last seen leaving for a solo hike near her mother's home in Brown County her father Jim he lived in
00:32:37
Nashville Indiana told the Indianapolis Star that he believes that his daughter had died from hypothermia again there
00:32:43
was no cause of death determined uh as of mid 2016 so we're yet to see a more recent
00:32:51
update than this but the Brown County coroner did state that what they do know is that she had died in the place where
00:32:58
she was found okay uh and they they said that Foul Play is not suspected but I only bring that up because when you're
00:33:05
going through these cases like we said anytime this news pops up these family members or friends they're out somewhere
00:33:11
they hear this news on the radio they see it on the TV or maybe in their local newspaper they're immediately on the
00:33:18
phone or they're getting calls from investigators wondering if this is a connection yeah and your your heart goes
00:33:24
out to them or anybody that has had to deal with that so let's get into some of the stranger theories and some of the
00:33:30
stranger coincidences that have come up since The Disappearance of Lauren um the
00:33:36
first one being that of the excon and the white truck on the night that Lauren disappeared police said that a white
00:33:44
truck was spotted on surveillance footage not far from where she was last seen yeah so there's a possibility that
00:33:51
this vehicle could be involved the Bloomington Police Department were investigating any potential link between
00:33:57
this truck and Lauren Spear's disappearance you know the thought here is did this driver happen to be driving
00:34:03
down the street saw her at an intersection and immediately pulled over you know maybe this is exactly what he
00:34:09
was looking for talks her into the vehicle this could take just a matter of seconds and then at that point he's got
00:34:16
her and he takes her to to wherever yeah or maybe doesn't talk her in forces you
00:34:21
know forcers are in by gunpoint that's a possibility but but who is this individual that's d in this white truck
00:34:28
um well they're not for certain who he is but where the excon comes into play is the FBI agent he's actually a former
00:34:36
FBI agent uh by the last name of Garrett who now works for ABC News um he discovered that there was an ex-convict
00:34:44
named James Mish and he just happened to be released from prison from he was there for assaulting his ex-wife he was
00:34:52
released at the time of this disappearance and he drove a similar white truck right and so then they got a
00:34:59
call from the the ex-wife that he assaulted saying hey you might want to check into this guy yeah and that that's
00:35:06
what tipped them off he he also happened to have been living in a halfway house at the time which was just about 10
00:35:12
minutes from where Lauren had disappeared what were the claims that the ex-wife was making well she says
00:35:17
that James Mish had killed Lauren and then buried her on a farm in Southern Indiana uh stating that he had you know
00:35:26
said things to her in regards like comments that he would make to her things like well you know what happened
00:35:31
to Lauren and the same thing could happen to you so threats that that she is alleging he had said to her well I
00:35:37
think it's weird that you know he goes to prison for assaulting you and why are you having any contact with this
00:35:44
individual yeah you know what I mean like uh you know are are you having contact because you like drama are you
00:35:51
having contact with this individual because he's forcing you to like are you mean this to I do want to throw
00:35:59
something out there though regarding Ex-Wives ex-girlfriends and I'm not saying that you know I don't want you
00:36:06
know I don't want anybody to read too much into this but I know regarding the Long Island serial killer case that
00:36:11
through the tip line they were getting a lot of tips from Ex-Wives ex-girlfriends
00:36:16
that were accusing former you know husbands and boyfriends of being lovers yeah being involved so this is something
00:36:23
that is is actually pretty common in in a pretty popular case um but they had made contact the former FBI agent
00:36:30
Garrett he made contact with this James Mish now James agrees to a lie detector test um and he wants to prove that he
00:36:39
was not involved in The Disappearance of Lauren yeah he wants to clear his name so when it came to questions about
00:36:45
Lauren uh James stuck to his denials uh answering calmly and clearly uh he said he had nothing to do with Lauren's
00:36:52
disappearance mhm and he you know at the end of the day it sounds like they didn't gain much from this lie detector
00:37:00
they didn't think that he was being untruthful right um they they basically thank him for his cooperation and he
00:37:07
tells the you know the investigators that he wishes them the best of luck right so now if this individual was
00:37:13
driving this white truck then we can rule that out as a lead but if this individual was not driving that
00:37:19
particular white truck then that is still a very possible lead you're exactly right and I think just his
00:37:25
cooperation shows that he's probably not guilty of anything regarding Lauren's case M um another strange thing that
00:37:33
took place uh was the biker gang uh Theory now this is from the streets of Indiana there's a notorious motorcycle
00:37:41
gang called the Sons of Silence um there is an alleged link to the spear case which came in the form of tips from a
00:37:50
former member of the group this person's name is Robert strange who goes by the name of bodan wait wait his real name is
00:37:59
Robert strange yeah and he goes by the name of bod old bodan which is crazy because your real name is bodan and you
00:38:06
go by the captain right strange doesn't strange strange Robert strange does not have any criminal record uh but he is
00:38:14
well known to the authorities whatever that means uh I guess he's got a reputation for being what they call an
00:38:21
enforcer um so if the Gang has a problem you know they go to him and he kind of just takes care of it uh but again
00:38:29
no so going by the name of bod Dean this is a former member of a local motorcycle
00:38:36
gang uh according to the investigators now what they discover is an online message in which one of Robert Strange's
00:38:44
relatives claimed that strange shot Lauren in a dispute over drugs and money and then buried her on his
00:38:51
property the message reads it's very good fertilizer well if he's talking about Lauren then that's just some sick
00:38:59
[ __ ] right there well and these are online messages so they could have really been posted by anybody um the
00:39:06
thing here is what investigators did come up with was that you know this gang in this particular person had ties they
00:39:14
were in the Indianapolis area and they couldn't find any link between Lauren in the Indianapolis area and they used
00:39:22
basically her cell phone records to come up to try to establish a link they couldn't do that uh ultimately what they
00:39:29
think is happening here is that this guy probably has made a lot of enemies over
00:39:34
the years and then it looks like somebody's trying to set him up or maybe just kind of throw suspicion his way to
00:39:42
put him under the radar of the police well and she lost her keys right so to get from Bloomington to
00:39:49
Indianapolis or for this person to be just passing by that late at night from Indianapolis to Bloomington would
00:39:56
doesn't seem that likely if she did owe somebody money or if there was some kind
00:40:01
of dispute over drugs if if that dispute went down at 4:30 in the morning when she just happened to be alone drunk on a
00:40:09
street corner right it it seems very strange to me that this person would just happen to catch her in that area at
00:40:15
that time yeah but some men are just [ __ ] talkers like take the excon right for example like his ex-wife calls and
00:40:24
says hey this guy assaulted me and he's been making threats you know what happened to her or happened to you
00:40:31
implying that he did it because he's some tough guy you know well that's not a tough guy comment that's stupid so
00:40:37
shut the [ __ ] up right so and then here's another guy that you know he's a big bad biker guy and he's a part of the
00:40:44
biker gang you know and we we do tough [ __ ] you know oh man that girl made good
00:40:50
fertilizer shut the [ __ ] up you know well again though I I think I think the investigators might have it right where
00:40:57
I don't think I I'm starting to think that those are not his messages that those are something that that other
00:41:03
people have they're you see what I'm saying is that these guys sometimes like they boast like I'm so tough oh yeah you
00:41:09
know it's like just knock it off oh yeah it definitely happens but there was this
00:41:13
other Le you were talking about that was pretty interesting yeah this came from remember we mentioned the website find
00:41:18
lauren.com there's information regarding her disappearance on there and if you if
00:41:22
you have any information you can go there and submit it uh they were colle ing tips through find lauren.com and it
00:41:29
was from that site that the family had received a tip that some say may hold the best chance for an answer uh this
00:41:36
tip led to a young man by the name of Corey hammersley uh he's an inmate at the Indiana State Prison hamersley was
00:41:45
once a star student and athlete uh but he got in deep into the drug scene at Indiana University mhm one year after
00:41:53
Lauren's disappearance hamersley had a melt down he's he's high on drugs he steps out of his apartment he's wearing
00:42:00
nothing but a hat uh I've seen parts of this video it's the guy likes to party yeah it's it's scary but it's also it
00:42:08
sad right well it's a little funny too at some parts but it's definitely scary stuff because he takes out a firearm and
00:42:15
he starts shooting into a house um he he is he is then opening fire on the police
00:42:24
once they're called in and they they try to arrest Jesus now so obviously he's guilty of sin regarding this he's caught
00:42:31
red-handed being you know being a total uh whatever whacka do but uh so while he
00:42:37
is serving time uh he's talking with another inmate and um they're talking about this news story that comes over
00:42:46
the TV and hamersley tells the other inmate about a story about how Lauren had died at a house party with a group
00:42:55
of people that he had known um he's saying that they were drinking and they were doing
00:43:00
ecstasy and that she had ODed and the guys got scared and they didn't know what to do with her so then they took
00:43:08
her down to the Ohio river and they got rid of her disposing of her body right and this is one of the police's theories
00:43:16
their main theories and and this actually you know has more validity to it you know when when we don't know
00:43:25
their sources of how they're getting this information are they only getting this information from this inmate or are
00:43:31
they getting this information from the inmate and somebody outside of that four guy Circle no they were only getting
00:43:38
this information from an inmate that was serving time with uh Corey hammersley um
00:43:43
so what happens is they they get this information and like you said it goes with one of their original theories this
00:43:49
is also this is also one of the more simple answers to what might have happened that night and we know from
00:43:56
doing so many of these cases a lot of times the most simple explanation is is usually the most accurate um the thing
00:44:03
here is though they reach out to hamersley and they want to question him and see what he knows uh he claims he
00:44:10
doesn't know anything right uh and furthermore he also states that he's not going to help the police if if he if he
00:44:16
does come across knowledge in the future or if he suddenly remembers something uh
00:44:22
he has no he has no wishes to help the police in this investigation why uh you just you're just thinking screw the
00:44:33
police this is not about the police you know this is about you know the family's
00:44:38
closure you know and figuring out what happened to this this poor girl yeah but I you know I'm I'm not going to go as
00:44:46
far to call Corey Hammer hamersley crazy uh his what he did his actions were certainly crazy uh shooting at police
00:44:53
officers shooting into a house um but he strikes me as a guy that doesn't doesn't
00:45:00
give a [ __ ] that doesn't care uh about much he's serving 20 years in Indiana State Prison uh so so we can thank God
00:45:09
that he's not going to get out for a long time uh the problem is if he does know something he's shut up about it and
00:45:16
he's not going to give out any more information the thing here though is you you talked about peacocking and
00:45:22
sometimes guys say dumb stuff um I could see this being that situation you know he's in prison he's talking to other
00:45:30
inmates he sees a story that comes over and and and these inmates they know each
00:45:35
other they know oh that's the college kid he went to Indiana University he oh college boy he ain't tough you know hey
00:45:42
college boy right well then college boys got some information some information all of a sudden that police are looking
00:45:48
for that to me it it looks like probably a peacocking situation here right so you
00:45:54
maybe his whole story is this little bit of horeshit that's right right so just so we're pretty clear about this you
00:46:01
know this guy was not involved he just heard rumors about this happening on campus yeah if you believe his story he
00:46:08
saying that he knows how it went down he might know some of the people involved uh but right but I but but what I was
00:46:15
saying the reason why the police believe this story is they have some information
00:46:20
that somebody came forward talking about this and I don't believe it's this person right I think it's a another
00:46:26
source so but that to me that's two people telling the same story now we need to dive into that a little more I
00:46:35
agree and another thing to kind of clear up is the individual the con that the ex-wife said hey you know this guy
00:46:42
assaulted me look to him they actually after all the polygraph and stuff they actually searched his property even dug
00:46:50
in certain areas and found nothing M and then after this they're going to have another lead and it's it's a I believe a
00:46:57
flasher yes and this guy he's a I didn't I said that yes like like like you got excited sound like Marv Albert maybe
00:47:07
that's your thing man Mar uh no uh on January 28th 2016 the FBI conducted a raid on a home
00:47:16
in Martinville Indiana uh this is approximately 20 M north of Bloomington connected to a man Su suspected of
00:47:24
exposing himself to numerous women uh the FBI and other police agencies converged on the home with Bloomington
00:47:32
Police confirming that they were involved in the search investigators sifted dirt removed from a barn near the
00:47:39
property after cadaver dogs finished their work Searchers would not discuss whether anything significant was found
00:47:48
um investigators did tow away a white truck from the property here's that white truck again uh the truck might be
00:47:55
the one connect Ed to uh The Disappearance of Lauren but this truck is connected to a 35-year-old man by the
00:48:02
name of Justin Wagers uh who lived with his mother and stepfather uh at the property until his arrest well and this
00:48:09
doesn't roll out this individual for me because one I think it's weird with the white truck mhm uh and just because you
00:48:16
didn't find her remains on the property doesn't mean that her remains weren't put somewhere else you're exactly right
00:48:22
uh a little information on Justin Wagers here uh he was a registered sex offender
00:48:27
right the aggressive dater is what he is is that what you call uh well he's a registered sex offender um at least one
00:48:34
news station was calling Justin the prime suspect and Lauren's disappearance uh as far as far back as 1999 Wagers was
00:48:43
arrested repeatedly for exposing himself in several Indiana communities uh his criminal record includes uh intimidation
00:48:53
harassment violation of of a protection order there was a single minor misdemeanor charge of battery uh but
00:49:01
this was eventually dropped so what what I'm pointing this out because we're not
00:49:08
seeing what I would call a violent offender um he's he's certainly infringing on other people's rights and
00:49:14
exposing himself he's certainly a sexual deviate right um but we're but that doesn't mean that it doesn't you know
00:49:20
progress you're exactly right I mean there's a lot of serial killers that they start out as peeping Toms and this
00:49:26
guy is you know Ted Bundy's one of the more famous Sero killers that started off as a Peeping Tom when he was like in
00:49:33
his teenage years right and I don't know how many of them were flashers you know
00:49:38
uh you know Ted bunny wanted to get a look this guy is trying to give a look you know but but there you know with the
00:49:45
battery charges again I wouldn't rule this guy out now last year they did obtain a DNA swab from Justin Wagers so
00:49:54
okay so he gave gave that willingly well he but e either way even if he gives it
00:50:00
willingly you have to find her body to connect that to him right and I want to kind of go through this for a second
00:50:06
here because I got a lot of thoughts on this regarding the DNA so we can say he gave it willingly but at the time he was
00:50:15
jailed um so sometimes in these situations I and it varies from state to state and maybe even from County to
00:50:22
County sometimes when you're in prison or you're in jail they request these things it's not so much a request if you
00:50:28
know what I mean it's it's sometimes you have to consent to this um I don't know
00:50:33
what the exact case is here they have obtained his DNA as you said without there being a body the DNA may be of
00:50:40
little to no use at all part of me wonders if that's more of an intimidation factor that maybe if you
00:50:47
could get this guy to start talking by cuz you want this guy's mind to wander if he if he's guilty of something you
00:50:54
want him to think well why would they want my DNA [ __ ] they want my DNA because they might they want to compare
00:51:00
it to something they found something oh I better start talking I better you know
00:51:05
now's your one chance buddy to tell us what you know before this starts getting real bad for you um I think that's the
00:51:11
situation that we've seen here this is still pretty early uh regarding this Justin Wagers thing we're talking about
00:51:18
just a little over a year less than a year since they've obtained the DNA so I wonder where this could end up going if
00:51:25
it if it could potentially lead to something right and Justin's lawyer gave a statement yeah basically just stating
00:51:32
that his client has no knowledge of the case regarding The Disappearance of Lauren spear or any other missing person
00:51:40
yeah but see I love how they throw that any other yeah that any other missing person that that gives Willies man well
00:51:48
you want to hear something else that will creep you out yeah go for it I'm ready so we have we have a murder that
00:51:53
took place um in 2015 and this has been very much linked to the Lauren spear case now this
00:52:02
situation is strange because the woman that went missing her name is Hannah Wilson um she was at the same bar she
00:52:11
was at Kilroy's sports bar right um and she was drinking on campus when she when
00:52:17
she had disappeared right so very obvious links to the Lauren case now the way that this goes down is that Hannah
00:52:25
was out drinking she was 22 years old at the time and um she was out drinking at
00:52:30
this bar All Night Long at at uh killroy she takes a taxi cab home um and she's she's not seen after that right the
00:52:41
problem here is of course originally the taxi cab driver is a suspect in this case of course obviously but they have
00:52:49
he has surveillance in his taxi cab smart on him and what what they're able to prove what he able to prove is that
00:52:56
at some point Hannah had paid her fair and left the cab he drives off MH so the really scary thing here is Hannah was
00:53:06
not abducted from the bar she was not even really abducted on her way home um we don't know exactly when she was
00:53:15
abducted but she made it home her roommate states that they had heard the door open at some point that that night
00:53:24
wow they didn't get up to investigate because you know people come home late mhm um the next morning though they find
00:53:31
her belongings and her cell phone in her room and the front door is still open right which would kind of go to the
00:53:40
theory of being drugged and then that individual has to follow the person that they drugged mhm and then so when she
00:53:49
get you know she gets back to her house doesn't pass out in the taxi car mhm and
00:53:54
then and then she's abducted probably easier if she was drugged yeah the situation
00:54:01
here Captain is they they have arrested a man for this uh his name is Daniel messel and he was 49 years old at the
00:54:09
time of this he's been convicted since then right so now he's an obvious suspect in this Lauren case right uh the
00:54:16
situation here is they were easily able to connect this crime to Daniel because they found Daniel's cell phone at the
00:54:23
foot at the feet of Hannah Wilson where he had left her body right so he goes to
00:54:29
dump the body and he drops his phone and when they found the body they find the phone they quickly trace the phone to
00:54:35
this Daniel metel and they go to his home and when they get to his home they find that he's got like scratch and claw
00:54:42
marks all over his arm um where Hannah had put up a significant fight and they also find blood and hair inside of his
00:54:51
vehicle um the what kind of vehicle was it a white truck no it was a Kia Sportage but I don't I don't know the
00:54:58
color of a small SUV okay so this is definitely an invidual that we have to look into right now there there are some
00:55:06
investigators that have pointed out that they they're a little concerned about Daniel being a suspect in Lauren's case
00:55:15
and their thought is that he he couldn't successful successfully pull off this murder and get away with it this the
00:55:23
murder of Hannah Wilson right uh that he was pretty easily caught um yeah but he
00:55:28
made one big mistake he made one big mistake you're exactly right so it's like you know you take away that one
00:55:33
mistake do they still get their guy they might never have got their guy and then
00:55:37
now you have two girls going missing from the same area mhm and and and both were assuming are deceased yeah so so I
00:55:46
I want to point this out because the investigators don't think that this is a great lead um however the judge at his
00:55:55
sentencing um when he sentenced they made a the judge made a remark about a a student that was attacked in 2009 on the
00:56:04
college campus right this was a drunk girl that got persuaded to get into a vehicle she's attacked she fights off
00:56:11
the attacker and she gets out and she flees she flees the area now she's not able to provide a vehicle description uh
00:56:19
regarding the attack itself but I found it very curious that the judge kind of threw that out there
00:56:25
during during his trial maybe he knows a little more than we know so where you have the investigators that might not
00:56:31
think he's a potential suspect you certainly have somebody close to a murder case that seems to think he's
00:56:37
capable and probably should be suspected in other attacks or maybe disappearance
00:56:44
of Lauren okay so with all this on the table Where Do We Go From Here what's your thoughts uh the thing the only
00:56:52
thing that I like about this case is I mean it's tragic we have this missing girl she who knows how much partying she
00:57:00
was doing that night right right but regardless or how much party she was how much partying she was doing you know
00:57:06
months or years prior right there's a couple thoughts I have on this I'm I'm pretty much a Live and Let Live person
00:57:12
you know do do your thing as long as it doesn't bother me um that kind of thing um so you know she can do what she wants
00:57:20
I don't I'm not going to go out and fault these guys that was hanging out with just because they didn't take her
00:57:28
home or they didn't put her to bed at some point we're all adults and and the thing is I I hate the expression when
00:57:36
when somebody has to fess up to something or when when somebody has to admit to something they go or or
00:57:43
confronted with something they go oh well I was drunk well that's not an excuse It's not really an excuse as an
00:57:49
adult whether you be 20 whether you be 30 40 years old you choose to drink if you choose to do certain drugs well
00:57:56
there could be consequences that come with those actions now I'm not putting this on Lauren either but I can't fault
00:58:04
those guys just for the fact that she didn't make it home safe uh well whether you're a man or woman you know when you
00:58:12
go out drinking when you go out partying with anybody you you have to monitor what you're doing because you're putting
00:58:17
yourself at risk mhm and and so you know she was doing that and I don't fault her
00:58:24
at all but you know those are they're dangerous behaviors and you have a responsibility to to yourself to to keep
00:58:32
yourself safe and to put yourself in smart situations and not bad situations the one thing I do like about this case
00:58:39
though Captain is it seems to you know we're almost seven years we're almost six years excuse me removed from this
00:58:47
thing but this case seems to like not go cold like every couple months there seems to be a new coincidence or a new
00:58:54
le or a new possible suspect uh I do like that because that that to me points that we might get an answer someday
00:59:01
right we might be getting closer to to a resolution on this yeah and Lauren's parents have kind of reserved themselves
00:59:08
to the fact that that that their daughter's probably not alive anymore um and but they still need answers they
00:59:14
still deserve answers uh and I hope that they get them and I think that we might
00:59:19
see something we have these these other two guys that are both locked up now we got the Flasher and we got this other
00:59:25
this uh other guy that horribly killed this young woman um those are good strong leads the thing though too is
00:59:33
these guys if you are if you're if you were her friend the four guys that you're talking about four major actually
00:59:41
Lauren's friend it's time to cooperate a little more um and and I recommend you do that with your attorney at your side
00:59:49
but but I think it's time to I think it's time to cooperate a little more and on on top of that I also think that the
00:59:56
police should regarding the surveillance footage can they definitively say that she was standing at that intersection
01:00:03
after 4:30 a.m. after leaving the apartment and was she in fact by herself yeah and I I think like you said if you
01:00:12
guys were friends even if you're dis acquaintances be a man you know with all this talk about you know strong women
01:00:20
strong men just be a man come forward you know do the right thing and and if if you know something if you don't then
01:00:30
I then I do apologize and it's just because your involvement you've been thrown under the bus and I wouldn't I
01:00:37
couldn't imagine what that feels like yeah so on one side if you know something come forward and if you don't
01:00:44
then you know I'm sorry you had to deal with that but those were also you you decided to make those choices by going
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out and partying with her you're exactly right you know you have to deal with those consequences
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I wish I had like a definitive theory of what I thought happened there's too much
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gray in this case yeah and and just when I start going no I think these guys know
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something that they're just not bringing up I then there's you know this flasher
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guy this other murder and I and I think that murder is telling I think you're right you know and I think again how are
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you going to get that guy to crack um I I don't know yeah I agree I the thing here is I do think think this
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case will develop more I do think that we probably will see a resolve to it uh the thing is it's that's what I didn't
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like about this case is that there there is that gray area and it's very tough to
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give a definitive uh answer or Theory as to what we think happened here if anybody has any other leads or theories
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feel free to post those on our blog at true Crim garage.com do we have a recommended reading for this week this
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week we are recommending the last victim by Jason Ross um this this whole book thing that Jason
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Ross put together didn't start off as a book idea this originally was a college course assignment which turned into it
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escalated into a dangerous Obsession back when Jason Ross was 18 years old he was an honor student uh he wrote to some
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very bad men uh men whose bodies body counts had made criminal history these are dmer Manson Ramirez and gasy uh he
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kind of osed himself pretending to be kind of one of their ideal victims in his correspondence with them uh and he
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kind of lured them in to get uh some truths and get some information from them so one by one they end up writing
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him back they start showering him with their Madness and their violent fantasies uh and this kind of thing
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really spun out of control when John Wayne gasy said that he would like to meet Jason and eventually Jason Goes to
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meet him so pick this up it's a very interesting book it's it's called the last victim by Jason Ross you can do
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that by going to our website true Crim garage.com and click on the recommended page and I can't thank you enough I
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can't I can't thank you enough oh you're welcome can't stop I can't stop thanking
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