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[Music] crime [Music] 39-year-old Bo man was very much looking forward to marrying his partner Jason
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Abate theirs was a long-term relationship about five or more years but also a long distance relationship
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both Bo and Jason stayed quite busy with work Jason spending a lot of that time in Michigan and Bo Running his company
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out of Los Angeles California sadly the wedding never took place that is because on November 30th
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2021 Bow Man vanished and he has been missing ever since Bo was last seen at 7-Eleven near
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his home in LA Bo is someone that is known to reach out to others and to connect with them on a
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level that is real from Bose's blog he says I believe you must bring your whole self to the
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table if you want to thrive in today's crazy world your personality your sense of humor and most importantly your heart
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all of these elements brought me to found Bo man the entrepreneur back in 2000 since then then the blog has been
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thriving and has quickly gained a loyal following I invite you to explore my site learn about my passions and explore
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what excites and interests you as well it appears that Bo toyed with the idea of starting a YouTube
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channel but B man is by far best known for founding and operating a support network for people recovering from drug
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addiction the network is called sober grid sober grid combines peer support coaching an online community digital
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Therapeutics and a digital library of Mental Health Resources to help individuals achieve longterm recovery
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they boast that the platform removes barriers and tackles the gaps in the Continuum of Care and according to the
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reviews many of those in recovery had much success with so grid and found the support they needed and Bo's absence the
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sober grid team continues to work diligently to protect Bose's Legacy and continue his and their mission as
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someone who suffered from addiction himself Bo was fulfilling a desire to help people in similar
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situations according to our friends over at the Charly project.org Bo is described as a Caucasian male with
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blonde hair and blue eyes he has a surgical scar on his abdomen extending from his navl to his groin he smokes
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cigarettes he 5' 10 in tall and about 220 lb when last seen he was wearing an extra-large coat a black hooded
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sweatshirt a dark blue t-shirt dark blue pants black sneakers a blue baseball cap
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a bandana over the lower part of his face and an engagement ring with five diamonds he was carrying a plastic bag
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of ice and a black backpack with two laptop computers an iPhone and an iPad inside anyone with information on The
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Disappearance of bow man should call the LAPD missing persons unit at 213 99680 if you have information but wish
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to remain anonymous please call 1 1800222 tis that's 1 1800 222 8477 tollfree 24 hours a
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day this is true crime [Music] garage [Music] [Music] today is Tuesday February 21st
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2023 and it is Bo Michael man's 41st birthday but sadly instead of a celebration the search continues to find
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this missing individual Bow Man was last seen on November 30th 2021 now you heard some of Bose's
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accomplishments in today's trailer leading into this case discussion Bo is the founder and CEO of a successful
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application-based company that he named sober Grid at the time of his disappearance Bo was engaged to his
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partner Jason the timeline that encompasses Bose's disappearance is a strange one we will start things off
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with the week of Thanksgiving 2021 for those listening abroad cheers to you first off but Thanksgiving is always
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celebrated on a Thursday in late November for the holiday bow man flew to Texas this trip was for the purpose of
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spending the Thanksgiving holiday with his family on November 29th the Monday after Thanksgiving Bo flew back to Los
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Angeles Upon returning from from his trip he was picked up by his assistant at LAX the Los Angeles International
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Airport now that same evening Bo went out for takeout food and was visited by a friend at his home he spoke to his
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boyfriend on the phone before going to bed that night during this call Bo mentions to his boyfriend Jason that he
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was having car trouble and his vehicle would not start the following morning is Tuesday November 30th 2021 this is when
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Bo Michael man left his home on foot and visited a coffee shop now one article here Captain states that it was air
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quotes normal for B now I'll admit it's unclear to me and I think it's unclear to most if the normal is meant for the
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walking portion or the coffee portion or possibly both yeah he lived in Brentwood
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which they have a lot of shops very close to the neighborhood where you could walk to so again it's not clear
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but I would assume a lot of people in that neighborhood walk and get coffee in the morning or my first assumption was
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that this was due to the car trouble but as you point out there's many fine establishments to go to relatively
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closely to where B lives now this is going to bring us to 2:00 p.m. that afternoon when Bowman is captured on
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surveillance video he is shopping at a 7eleven convenience store this store is located at
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117 Ventura Boulevard in Studio City California now at some point in this video he is seen repacking his large
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backpack that he brought with him to the store this apparently because some of the contents of this backpack fell out
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so he's fixing his backpack situation he makes his purchases and he's going to go
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on his way but a little more detail here Captain this according to one person that posted online saying that they
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lived in Studio City for about 15 years they described the area as safe family oriented wonderful neighborhood with
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decently maintained and modestly sized houses at 2 p.m. he spotted on the surveillance footage at 711 within
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minutes we have at 26 p.m. B is leaving the store this with a fountain drink in one hand and a bag of ice in the other
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along with several other items that he purchased on that visit at the store and just to be clear Bo walked to get coffee
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but took a uber to the 7-Eleven correct and from the reports that I see it it's a little unclear if he then called for
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an additional Uber or told the driver or requested that the driver wait for him and then return to the same vehicle yeah
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that's unclear because sometimes a driver will wait but all the reports that I have found that the initial drive
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to the 7-Eleven that drive was complete so he could have been picked up by the same driver but he completed that the
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initial drive so then they would have to start a new transaction now Bo's boyfriend Jason who is very much one of
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the many who are leading the charge to help fine Bo says that the items that Bo purchased there that day were items that
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were for his home and the item of the most importance or I think that is most significant here is the bag of ice now
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one would everyone would know that you you you purchase ice and you are now on a
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timeline right that ice will melt at some point and we're talking about California it looked to be a sunny day
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that day I don't have the temperature but a lot of the reports state that he's leaving the 7-Eleven with a bag of ice
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that that is probably melting very quickly upon leaving the store the other thing that's interesting here is
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according to Jason Bo was one of these people that always had to have ice ice in his drinks always had to have ice on
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hand and Jason reports that the ice maker at Bose's home was currently not working just like his car I don't know
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how long the ice maker situation was in need of repair but Jason is saying the purchases made that day indicate to him
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that it would have been Bo's intention of returning home upon leaving the 7-Eleven and he underlines that with the
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purchase of the ice saying the ice maker wasn't working and as we just pointed out you are on a timeline as soon as you
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make that purchase and I have to agree here with Jason not knowing B but it seems to make all the sense in the world
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to me that you purchase a bag of ice and unless you have a cooler you're probably
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intending to go home afterwards and I'll post the pictures of B on surveillance but one of the things that sticks out
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like a sore thumb is how big his book bag is I mean it looks like he hasn't unpacked from his trip from visiting
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friends and family for Thanksgiving well I found the contents of his backpack to
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be a little questionable and maybe a little concerning as well according to the Charlie project.org not only is he
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carrying that plastic bag of ice when he leaves a 7-Eleven but in his Black Backpack there there are two laptop
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computers an iPhone and an iPad inside some people have questioned well why is B seen wearing a bandana over the lower
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part of his face in some portions of the surveillance video we must keep in mind
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this was 2021 and in many areas of this country you were required to have some kind of
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face covering around this time due to covid-19 concerns according to reports Bo then got into an Uber and we just
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discussed we are uncertain if it was the same Uber that he arrived in here's where I have some issues with this case
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and in fact some issues with the investigation that is ongoing for the search for
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Bowman I think that it would be beneficial to this investigation if we could crowdsource a lot of these
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different events within this short timeline because a lot of these things are unclear and I think that if you're more
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transparent with some of these items that it could help to lead us to bow or at least get us some breadcrumbs start
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creating a breadcrumb trail because as we will see in this timeline here relatively shortly the Trail Ends very
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soon so he gets in an Uber after leaving the now at 2:15 p.m. a text containing in Uber gray was sent to 911 through the
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emergency alert system within the Uber app this is before his phone goes off now fishy I don't know exactly what the
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details of all of these items are but this is how it's reported this is how it's stated and this is the information
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that is released to the public that he texts 911 and this happens before his phone
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went off so there must be some indication to law enforcement or to the phone company that at some point his
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phone goes off after this communication he texts Uber 911 and I don't know how this works but they claim that it's
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normally followed up with like a help text which he didn't send but then 911 tried to get in contact with bow man
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that's exactly right 911 attempts to contact B but is not successful and then unfortunately B has been missing since
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and has not had contact with anyone he has not contacted family or friends work or even 911 after this and just to be
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clear about the timeline B walks to get coffee and then takes a uber to the 7-Eleven that ride is completed he then
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gets into another Uber that ride is completed so we do have an in spot of where Uber claims that they dropped B
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man off at yeah we end up being told that Bo man was dropped off on Berkeley Street which is a residential area in
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Santa Monica a few days after he's not heard from authorities conduct a wellfare check at Bow man's apartment
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upon requests by family members and work colleagues who had not heard from him I'm getting some conflicting reports
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here on the missing persons report rep so many of the reports state that on December 4th
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2021 Bo man's assistant who picked them up from the airport filed a missing person's Report
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with the Los Angeles Police Department some other reports state that the missing persons unit at LAPD was not
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notified of B man's missing status until several days in fact almost two weeks later and we'll dive into that here in a
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second let's get into some background information for Bo he was born on February 21st
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1982 in Post Texas after his parents separation he grew up moving between his father's
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house which was located in Texas and his mother's home which was located in Massachusetts at a younger age Bo had
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some substance abuse issues and he worked hard through this he entered recovery at age 23 and got clean now as
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a result he went on to found sober grid this back in 2016 sober grid is a social Community
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app that provides support for recovering addicts an interesting story that I got
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to hear Bo tell you can go online and he did several interviews even given an award from Forbes Magazine so if you
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want to hear and see these interviews with Bo you can find them and one thing that I found interesting here captain
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and something I never even considered but you know when you are recovering adct a lot of that you need
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the support of other individuals like-minded individuals people that have shared similar experiences people that
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are recovering themselves it's it's a support based recover y one thing that I found to be interesting was Bo came up
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with this idea because he was in recovery himself and he travels out to the Sundance Film Festival then while
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he's there he's like okay well there's all these apps for people that want to hook up maybe go out on a date or meet
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new people or go to a party maybe go to a bar have some drinks or what have you but there's no real Community for a
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person that is seeking somebody that's in recovery as well like-minded individuals or somebody just to talk to
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you know hey I'm out here on my own I'm I I'm I'm experiencing something here I just need somebody to talk to some
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support I need some kind of a a little bit of somebody to lean on if you will and so he comes up with this great idea
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for a sober grid it has some success this app ends up having some success as we said he was even featured in Forbes
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Magazine now at the time of his disappearance Bo man lived in an apartment in Los Angeles California he
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had previously lived in New York and his company is based out of the Boston Massachusetts area well a couple things
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and and like the colonel was saying you can go read this article in Forbes magazine or or online as well and it
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shows you a couple things one Bowman he's very bright individual driven individual creative individual and by
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reading this interview you get um a little bit of a taste of his personality as we said in the trailer Bo was in a
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long-distance relationship with Jason Abate who he met five years prior through a dating site in Texas and the
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pair planned to get married now we had several requests we received a bunch of requests to cover Bose's case and thank
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you to everyone who suggested this case one of the reasons amongst others that we decided to feature this case is that
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here we have a very dissatisfying timeline to me to me I look at this captain and I see that there are
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cheers to you Colonel that Pauls I almost cheersed you first there Captain hey the the Mr canoe head beer is so
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delicious and it also made me think I wish I was wearing a douche canoe Bob Ross t-shirt right now at the same time
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old Bob Ross So cheers to Bob Ross cheers to Mr canoe head and cheers to I guess the douche canoes out there to all
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the canoe heads let's get into this timeline here and see what we can come up with here captain now at 2 pm. we
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know that Bo was seen and recorded on surveillance video at that 711 again the address is
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117 Ventura Boulevard and Studio 6 City we know this to be fact we've seen images of this surveillance footage
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ourselves and we know that LAPD went to this location and they took with them this surveillance footage of bow man so
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good job by them to collect this good job by 7-Eleven to actually have a working surveillance system so we get a
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little bit of insight to me all of these items in his backpack just seem to raise
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more questions to me I get it like given what we do for a living it's not uncommon that you're going to bring a
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laptop or an iPad with you and you might sit at a bar or a coffee shop and get a
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little work done while you're there but to have two laptops an iPad uh an iPhone
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and then of course all the the the Chargers and the cords and cables that go along with with the that
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contents that seems to me like he's carrying an awful a lot of things around with him to me I look at this and I I I
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Come Away with a very weird feeling in your P where the ice tells me the ice suggests to me that he might be going
00:28:10
home not it doesn't have to be 100% but the ice suggest to me he's going home all of these other items in his backpack
00:28:18
suggest to me that he is going elsewhere yeah but you have to remember that he just came from a long weekend holiday
00:28:26
weekend VIs in his family so he was traveling so is it possible that he just didn't get around to taking out some of
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these items the issue I have is is his book bag look way more filled than the items that are stated so he's carrying
00:28:43
the bag of ice and which is what he would want to do you don't want to mix that melting bag of ice with your
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electronics and your backpack what you do have and I'm making an assumption here so forgive me out there in listener
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land when we say that some of the contents of his backpack Spilled Out and he's seen on video putting those items
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back into his backpack I want to be clear here I've not been able to see the full length video I've only been able to
00:29:10
see still images from his visit at the 711 so I have to make an inference here and my inference is and based off of
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some of the wording coming from Jason and coming from online reports was that he left the store with a fountain drink
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in one hand bag of viice in the other hand along with several other purchases that he made there and Jason saying that
00:29:33
he has reviewed those purchases and simply telling us that those purchases were for Bose's home so I think what may
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have happened he may have stuffed some of those other purchases not the melting ice into the backpack and in in the
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course of doing so may have dropped an item or two from his backpack he's seen reloading it and then he leaves the
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store very quickly after this is a very short very brief visit to this convenience store now one could argue if
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he's going home but I think we both can agree that he's going somewhere with the
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bag of ice you're just not going to walk around town with a bag of ice yeah he I
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bet you he has some kind of destination in mind we know that he gets into an Uber after leaving the store at 2:15 p.m
00:30:21
his phone sends a text to 911 through the emergency alert system again within the Uber app and as stated it's it's
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told to us that this happens before his phone went off now what what went off means we don't know that doesn't mean
00:30:38
that he sent the text and then his phone went off immediately it could mean that
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his phone went off at a much later time or later the battery died but what we do
00:30:47
know is that 911 attempts to contact B to see if everything is all right but they are not successful and then we know
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that this is the last contact or would seem to be the last contact or attempted contact that Bo made with anybody but we
00:31:03
also know that Uber told at least law enforcement and other sources where he was dropped off at did they do any
00:31:12
followup on other surveillance because we have them on surveillance at the 7-Eleven there's other stores and
00:31:19
there's other houses and and other businesses in these locations or in the location that he's dropped off in why
00:31:27
isn't he seen again on camera well and there's some very troubling things here and you just hit the nail on the head
00:31:33
why is he not seen again on camera in the area of of the 7-Eleven okay well maybe he gets into the Uber very quickly
00:31:41
after leaving the store you know within steps but the problem here is we only have to me only one of two outcomes can
00:31:52
be possible right if everything was normal if everything was going well that day
00:31:58
B should have returned to his home he should have gotten the Uber and it would have taken him home if that's in fact
00:32:03
where he wanted to go and he would have been home he would have been fine today everybody celebrating his
00:32:10
birthday we don't have B he goes missing and to me everything everything ends and then
00:32:18
begins again with one of two scenarios either the Uber is the problem or the drop off point according to Uber where
00:32:27
they dropped him off that is our other problem right uh potential problem so I found a little bit of information
00:32:35
regarding the Uber here because that's one of the the more dissatisfying parts of this timeline Uber is basically
00:32:43
saying Bo got out of the car his ride was completed as the captain said and he got out we dropped him off here after
00:32:52
that we don't know what happened to him now a representative of uber told old dat line in an email that there was no
00:33:00
incident reported to Uber Jason the boyfriend told dat line along with Bo's family and friends that have been
00:33:11
pushing and pushing and pushing to find out what happened to Bo they say that they feel frustrated with the progress
00:33:17
or lack thereof in Bo's case Jason runs the helpf find boow man Facebook page and if anybody wants to look that up the
00:33:26
spell you can you will see from the title of today's podcast but the spelling is B Au for B and man is ma Ann
00:33:36
Facebook page officer Jill Calhoun was originally assigned to investigate Bose's disappearance this
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for LAPD officer Calhoun told dline that the LAPD missing persons unit officially
00:33:53
received a notice that Bo was missing on December 17 2021 that's where I I start having a
00:34:01
bunch of problems with this Uber and then with the LAPD themselves right what what is the actual case here the other
00:34:11
reports that are online state that he was reported missing December 4th according to the detective Mrs
00:34:20
Calhoun or Miss Calhoun excuse me says that they were notified that he was missing on December 17
00:34:27
he's seen on the surveillance footage November 30th if they're not looking for him
00:34:33
until the 17th I'm surprised that the 7-Eleven still had the footage maybe it's of the
00:34:40
digital nature yeah I wonder if that's just a like somehow that's a misreporting where he was reported once
00:34:48
uh missing on the fourth and then again you know they follow up on the 17th it it just seems very strange to me and
00:34:56
then miss Calhoun goes on to tell dine that the Uber is definitely being investigated I cannot disclose the
00:35:03
details but it has definitely been investigated and Jason of course goes on to tell dat line that the last time he
00:35:11
spoke with Bo Bo did in fact tell him his car was not starting and that meant that he would be using an Uber now one
00:35:20
person that posted on the find B man Facebook page I think had a lot of good and interesting points that they
00:35:29
made in their post and this comes from Doc J I don't know if that's any relation to the Dr J but here we go hey
00:35:39
Uber really no incident was reported to you really if the LAPD has interviewed your driver twice how could that be that
00:35:48
no incident was reported to you Bo was in an Uber and used the Uber app to text 911 and never heard from again again
00:35:57
wouldn't you want to reassure people you are doing more than this transparency is
00:36:04
important let's talk to your driver air quotes Kyle and then the poster goes on to say Bo made the driver stop at a
00:36:13
7-Eleven while he shopped for a few things brought a melting bag of ice back in the car that he purchased at the
00:36:22
7-Eleven and supposedly Bo changed the route from Brentwood to Santa Monica and texted 911 for help and your driver
00:36:33
didn't remember a passenger like that question mark who wouldn't remember a passenger that texts 911 on them which
00:36:42
if I understand correctly requires the driver to acknowledge everything is okay at some point and then doc J goes on to
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say oh and the driver does not do any more rides that day too question mark and LAPD headquarters could you explain
00:36:58
why you don't believe Foul Play is involved in Bose's disappearance he hasn't been seen for many months and
00:37:05
texted law enforcement for help and this is how it's being handled he was counting on you to help him where were
00:37:13
you and what is being done now to find him dat line is just the beginning it's not going away we don't just move on
00:37:21
without a loved one who vanishes from our County maybe it's time to assign this to a detective and begin taking
00:37:29
missing people seriously yeah it's a it's a joke I want to know more about the first Uber ride to the 7-Eleven did
00:37:39
he get back into the same vehicle or not again like this individual online Dr J what he's saying makes a lot of sense if
00:37:48
if I'm texting 911 and 911 is trying to get a hold of me why aren't they trying to get a hold
00:37:53
of the Uber driver and if they did what was that communication like and again we
00:37:59
have surveillance at the 7-Eleven what about surveillance when he was dropped off so why did he change his location
00:38:05
and then why was he dropped off in Santa Monica there's so many questions and it
00:38:10
seems like lipd just has too much on their plate and and he just vanishes into thin air again the the fact that
00:38:19
there's no surveillance after the fact or that there's like we just said couple minutes
00:38:27
ago when was he reported missing that's not even clear right and if they're not out there looking for him until the 17th
00:38:36
or after I mean by that point Captain we are close to three weeks we're we're two
00:38:43
and a half weeks after he was last seen on that surveillance footage at the 7-Eleven and the thing here is where he
00:38:50
was dropped off in Santa Monica on Berkeley Street this is a busy residential area right we've seen so
00:38:58
many cases that have been solved or leads that have been provided to law enforcement from ring doorbell cameras
00:39:06
and from Simply Safe cameras and from ADT surveillance cameras from people's homes and also businesses I can't
00:39:14
believe you keep bringing up why don't we have him on camera again I'm with you lock and step here my friend I can't
00:39:21
believe that there he's not been captured on video anywhere else if he made it to this Berkeley Street in Santa
00:39:28
Monica like the Uber driver says and like the company Uber is telling us then there should be some
00:39:37
kind of digital footprint of him having been there now some have expressed a concern about Bose's State of Mind at
00:39:46
the time that he went missing and these are people that are close to him and family so we do need to take that into
00:39:52
account however his boyfriend Jason says that when he spoke to him when he spoke
00:39:57
to B the night before he went missing B sounded normal to him didn't say anything out of the ordinary to him
00:40:06
Jason says that he knew Bo the best and he says he can assure everyone that b did not voluntarily disappear well this
00:40:17
harks back to another case the Tyler Davis case which a lot of people have emailed wanting to know if there's been
00:40:24
any updates I'm constantly looking for anything I I do know that they petitioned I don't know if it went
00:40:32
through but they did petition to have him declared deceased but here's another example Tyler his wife his friend they
00:40:42
get dropped off they get dropped off by a uber at a at a hotel they're seen on surveillance but then he just disappears
00:40:51
into the night well and if I'm Uber if I'm the CEO of Uber or I'm running you know Uber in California or this area La
00:41:01
I want I want all of the customers and clients to know that when you ride with Uber you are
00:41:07
safe that you you will you will have a safe trip you will you will get into the vehicle have a safe drive a safe trip
00:41:16
and arrive safely at your destination well we keep seeing all these issues with Uber and Lyft and and other other
00:41:26
IDE services like this why why not just have it mandatory that if you're going to be a Uber driver that you have to
00:41:33
have a certain amount of cameras on so then if there's any question about the ride if there's any question about the
00:41:43
behavior of the person using that service that they could go back and look at the footage well and this would be
00:41:52
important for the drivers themselves for the safety of the drivers themselves it's a win-win it's a win-win but here's
00:41:59
where I have a problem with the bow Man story somebody's dropping the ball here either Uber or the LAPD because what
00:42:07
we're or both what we're left being told is that he text 911 911 did their job they tried to get in contact with B
00:42:16
after receiving this communication they can't get in in contact with him police are saying we found no evidence of Foul
00:42:25
Play Uber saying that they dropped him off in Santa Monica instead of his original
00:42:31
destination why aren't we being told by LAPD that we've investigated that and Uber is correct Bow Man was dropped off
00:42:41
where they said he was dropped off or why aren't they saying we have no evidence that he arrived at that new
00:42:49
destination because no evidence of him arriving at that new destination certainly points to Foul Play that is
00:42:56
your evidence of Foul Play and the the problem I have with this case is is kind of two and then threefold Uber
00:43:06
LAPD Bose's phone the phone service that he's paying for have they subpoena those
00:43:15
records have they tried to track his movements or at least the movement of his phone that day these are all things
00:43:24
that should be easy IL researched and confirmed I mean he's he's doing everything or most everything through
00:43:33
the Uber app yeah if he's if he's changing the destination even if it's verbally to the driver isn't the driver
00:43:40
changing that within the app I believe it has to be or they can't they couldn't take them to a different location
00:43:46
exactly and then if Kyle's doing this ride on the sly if he's like well I I'll take you elsewhere just throw me 20
00:43:53
bucks well then he needs to be up front with that as well this is the breadcrumb
00:43:59
that we are missing Captain right did he exit that Uber or not and we don't have LAPD or Uber to
00:44:08
Uber's telling us he did that's their general statement right but we have no proof of that we have no evidence of
00:44:14
that and you and I keep circling around the same thing if he arrived in Berkeley
00:44:18
Street in Santa Monica there should be some kind of proof some kind of digital footprint of him either being seen on
00:44:24
somebody's door Bell camera surveillance camera for their business or his phone indicating that he arrived and went
00:44:33
elsewhere or the Uber drivers app and there there's all kinds of ways for us to verify that he arrived at that
00:44:40
location safely or not well and the the problem becomes when was he reported missing and look I don't mean to sound
00:44:48
like my own Paul but I'm going to tell you the moment you don't hear from somebody and you start calling their
00:44:55
family and nobody body's heard from him do not hesitate the worst thing that can
00:44:59
happen is that you call police and you file a missile you file a missing person report and then you have to call them
00:45:06
back the next day that's the worst thing that can happen if you file a report and
00:45:12
you find the individual don't hesitate because maybe because there was some hesitation maybe they weren't able to
00:45:21
then go and and try to get that information or let's just say it's then reported to the news outlets
00:45:29
hey this guy went missing and this is where he was last seen then people in that neighborhood business owners and
00:45:36
and people in that neighborhood hear about this missing person and then they can check themselves well let's take a
00:45:41
look at disappeared blog.com what they're saying about bow man's case they State on there that according to Los
00:45:50
Angeles Police Department a 911 text was received from Bo Man's phone number on the afternoon of his disappearance they
00:45:57
made several attempts to contact him but he never replied the this website goes on to say
00:46:03
that the Uber driver told authorities now again going back to that Facebook post that poster is saying that they've
00:46:12
seen a report that LAPD interviewed the driver more than once interviewed the driver twice disappeared blog.com is
00:46:21
saying the Uber driver told authorities that Bow Man was dropped off at his apartment
00:46:26
the website goes on to say but no signs of him were found on surveillance cameras that afternoon it should be
00:46:32
pointed out here this is a good point to point out that there was surveillance footage of the apartment complex and we
00:46:40
know this because there are available online pictures of B uh leaving the apartment complex but we don't have any
00:46:50
pictures of him returning so this is not for his specific apartment but for the complex itself
00:46:57
now this is very interesting to me because if you have the Uber driver saying that he returned him to his
00:47:03
apartment that becomes a problem because the Uber app records show that boow man
00:47:08
was dropped off on Berkeley Street again a residential area in Santa Monica California at 2:35 p.m. now just to play
00:47:17
Devil's Advocate with and with this Uber driver he could have been told by Bo that this is my apartment
00:47:26
that's correct so so both could be true statements I think also if you're law enforcement you need to have some
00:47:35
serious conversations with his friends and family as well if you don't have leads if they're if they're screaming
00:47:44
Foul Play and you have no evidence of it I think you have to be real with him to go hey we need this information from
00:47:53
his phone we also need his online activity because if they can get his online activity is it possible that Bo was in
00:48:01
another relationship yes he was engaged and and and it seems like he was in a happy and loving relationship but
00:48:10
there's a lot of people that have secret relationships and so was this was this location a location of of somebody that
00:48:23
Bo was friends with or in a a romantic relationship with well Stevie Wonder called those part-time lovers yeah
00:48:31
here's the thing man this plot is going to thicken and it's going to thick in real quick here so according to his
00:48:39
mother Bow Man was recently acquainted with a man named Blake Brown whom he met online and worked with for a period of
00:48:47
time the man who describ their relationship this is Blake Brown who describes his relationship with bow man
00:48:54
as quote Friends with Benefits this man previously Bo makes him brownies or something I you can read into that
00:49:04
however you want to read into that this man says that he previously stayed with Bo at Bose's apartment for sometime in
00:49:12
August of 2021 Upon returning from Texas from the visit for Thanksgiving B man reportedly
00:49:21
textt this Blake Brown to meet up but Blake Brown says he was not able to meet up with Bo because he was staying in Las
00:49:30
Vegas at the time now we'll Circle back to Blake Brown here in a minute because this case gets even more
00:49:41
mysterious Jonah or Joe good at least in one online report as the person who's addressed that Bose Uber dropped him off
00:49:51
in Santa Monica on November 30th 2021 that individual Joe good has died now I don't know how or why this
00:50:05
person passed away only that it's reported that she passed away at her residence and she was 53 years old now
00:50:14
she's been interviewed this is not a mystery to those closest to the case she maintained throughout this ordeal that
00:50:21
she never even heard of Bow Man supposedly he's dropped off at her address she since passed away but when
00:50:29
talked to before she passes away she says I didn't meet him I don't know why he would be coming here I don't even
00:50:36
know who that is I've never heard that name before now oddly enough though Captain it looks like her death is being
00:50:44
investigated and the family has asked that donations be sent to something called
00:50:51
shatterproof which is an organization for addiction could could we be in a situation where Bo is going to a
00:50:58
location to meet a person he's never met before even maybe using his own app attempt to help somebody yeah or I also
00:51:08
wonder and this is why the information from the Uber driver would clear things up was this the address that was put
00:51:17
into the Uber app take me to this address or was this the location that he was dropped off at because there's been
00:51:24
times that I I'm going to a bar or I'm going to a coffee shop and we get pretty close and I go okay you can just drop me
00:51:33
off here or they or they go to the address and they pull up next door two doors down from where you actually
00:51:40
wanted to go right so maybe the Uber driver's app is stating to law enforcement and to everybody this is
00:51:47
where he was dropped off it's kind of a coincidence right that she would be somebody that would possibly be in
00:51:54
recovery or an addict themselves and then then you wonder was Bo wrestling with addiction again well and the other thing
00:52:05
just to go back to that Uber portion of it you know I've often been dropped off at intersections right I'll I'll I'll
00:52:14
request to be dropped off at an intersection is this simply I think we need more details here because is this
00:52:21
simply the closest address to an intersection or the closest address to a a spot or more of a location rather that
00:52:31
he's being dropped off at rather than a precise address right now I said we're going to circle back to this Blake Brown
00:52:38
here and here we go this to me you point at this Joe good who unfortunately passed
00:52:48
away and you see that the family is suggesting that please send donations to this shatter proof an organization for
00:52:56
addiction is could that just be some coincidence it could be could it be significant
00:53:02
possibly what we can't dismiss is if you map out where Blake Brown was living at the
00:53:15
time that bow man disappears now keep in mind Blake Brown says he was in Las Vegas at the time that b man texted him
00:53:24
but Blake Brown's address is not terribly far it's not right next door it's 2.9 to 3.1 miles approximately so
00:53:35
about roughly three miles from where the Uber is saying that they dropped off Bow
00:53:41
Man now that's driving distance three uh about three miles that's a long walk that's a very long walk that's 45 I
00:53:51
shouldn't say driving I shouldn't say driving distance because it's the same distance regard if you're walking or
00:53:56
driving but it's it's 11 to 13 minute drive if one were to make that drive and as the captain pointed out a long walk
00:54:05
the other thing that I found to be rather interesting here is I found two reports that are very unsettling when
00:54:13
you cross reference the information in these reports with the information in the Bow Man disappearance or the lack
00:54:21
thereof information in the Bow Man disappearance this uh Blake Brown individual the reports I have Captain
00:54:29
are that he left his job December 1st and may have left that apartment on December 9th of
00:54:36
2021 is this all a coincidence could be is it bad reporting could be if these reports are true though right how the
00:54:47
hell do you dismiss this possibility that this individual that had some kind of relationship with Bo man quits their job
00:54:55
the day after Bo goes missing last scene at his apartment within a week and a half of
00:55:05
when Bo is last seen yeah it's fishy there's a lot of mystery in this timeline there's a lot of mystery into
00:55:12
what B's intentions were that afternoon what his activities were to be I think to me though that the texting 911 is
00:55:21
supposed to tell us all of us including the LAPD something is wrong something is
00:55:28
wrong starting now we don't know what it is but something is wrong starting now and from every report I can find that
00:55:36
text was sent before Bo man exited that Uber LAPD says no evidence of Foul Play since when is a text or an attempted
00:55:48
communication to 911 the emergency alert system not some kind of evidence of potential foul play or an emergency well
00:55:57
and I again I also wonder what his activity from his phone was is it is it possible that he texts his friend that
00:56:06
they friends with benefits and and maybe this is somebody he's using drugs with and he goes well I'm out of town he goes
00:56:13
okay well you're out of town while Uber just take me to this spot because this is where I know I can get drugs and yeah
00:56:20
and and not to and look not to speculate too much but but but about this this is
00:56:25
a real possibility here's this guy that recovers and then he creates this app for people that are going through
00:56:31
recovery to be able to meet up and get a support system that's a very great thing
00:56:38
to have a great thing to create a great thing to put out into this world so if you were struggling with your addiction
00:56:45
it's more of a reason to try to hide it from people and it it and we've seen in a lot of cases when somebody does
00:56:53
overdose that somebody dispos does of the body basically CU they don't want to get
00:56:58
in trouble but you could also put another blanket on that is it possible that if he did overdose with some people
00:57:08
that they knew what Bow Man created and what he was trying to do for uh that community and that they didn't want it
00:57:19
to be broadcast for the rest of the world the guy that created this app to help people in recovery actually died
00:57:26
from a overdose well and where is The Help For The Individual I get so angry you know we talked about this in the
00:57:34
Natalie Ballinger case that the the the phone company the service provider that she
00:57:42
paid for she paid them on time monthly for the service when the police reach out
00:57:50
with a subpoena saying we would like to review her phone records because we think that that could lead us to the
00:57:56
person that harmed and killed this individual right they dragged their feet for 30 days due to some language in The
00:58:03
subpoena in in the in the search warrant they drag their feet for 30 days and delay Justice in that case
00:58:12
who why don't these larger entities that operate in the millions of dollars help us individuals out where
00:58:22
are the phone records for both man what is the truth from Uber and then to top it
00:58:30
off LAPD shame on you if you look up lapdonline.org if you go and attempt to look at the
00:58:41
missing persons from the Greater Los Angeles area guess whose name and picture does not appear on the website
00:58:50
bow man's and this website states that it was last up updated in 2023 so where is our picture of Bow Man
00:58:59
where is our information on Bow Man and I say shame on you LAPD for this because
00:59:05
I I'm dissatisfied with your investigation and again I know you cannot and will not say everything that
00:59:11
you've uncovered in your investigation I think that some crowdsourcing could certainly help in Bose's case but here's
00:59:19
the other problem I guarantee you Captain somewhere there is a line item for the taxpayers dollars that says LAPD
00:59:30
website updating website maintaining website there is a line item in that City's budget in that County's budget
00:59:39
for this website and for the persons that are in charge of this website and maintaining this website there are tax
00:59:46
dollars that are being spent on this and it doesn't seem to be a very thorough database when we are missing somebody
00:59:55
who is currently missing yeah and the one thing that we can do as a true crime Community is to keep sharing information
01:00:04
about these individuals keep posting their pictures online tell your friends to post their picture online keep the
01:00:11
conversation of this person going there's too many missing people that just seem to poof disappear into thin
01:00:18
air and that shouldn't be acceptable in our community it should not be acceptable
01:00:27
LAPD statement is that they have found no evidence means or motive for foul play in Bow man's disappearance a $5,000
01:00:35
reward is being offered by his family for information leading to the recovery of Bo man since his disappearance there
01:00:44
has been no activity on his cellular phone his family and his partner believe he has met with foul play as they don't
01:00:52
think that he would have gone this long without contacting them his case remains
01:00:58
unsolved whatever happened to Bow Man his family wants answers they are asking anyone with information to call the Los
01:01:07
Angeles Police Department's missing person's unit during business hours at 213 9961 1800 or call 1
01:01:20
800222 tis that's tips 1 800222 8477 tollfree and you can call that number 24 hours a
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