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[Music] when we left off captain we were reintroduced to kyler yust a name we've
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heard before he was the boyfriend of missing person kara kopetsky from nine years ago
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jessica did not tell jackson that she was going out with kyler that thursday night when she did not come home
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now at this time kyler was living in kansas city with his grandfather this after being released
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from prison just over a month earlier and he was hanging out with jessica runions of raymore
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who was as said apparently the girlfriend or ex-girlfriend of kyler's friend jackson mallet meanwhile on
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saturday september 10 2016 at 1 41 am the kansas city fire department found a vehicle on fire at
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95th street and blue river road this is in jackson county missouri the man who reported the car fire
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recognized the license plate of the burning vehicle as that belonging to a girl he'd seen
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online as missing jessica runions indeed the car which was incinerated to a smoking shell
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was jessica's equinox it had been deliberately set ablaze with gasoline spread inside and out of the
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vehicle later that day on the 10th a young man named jessup carter called the belton
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police department he told them that he was with his half-brother kyler yust apparently they share a mother
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when kyler set jessica runyon's vehicle on fire further kyler confessed to jessup that he had strangled jessica
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and that she was gone double douche canoes tyler told jessup he dragged her into the woods and left her there
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kyler had asked jessup to help him destroy the vehicle and to hide evidence and while he was burning the vehicle
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kyler got burned himself yes he managed to burn his hands and face while setting jessica's car on fire
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jessup took kyler to a trailer home in edwards missouri to let him hide out for a while
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and heal from these burns but then he decided to call the police it's too bad jessup didn't decide to put
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kyler out with the shovel authorities obtained a search warrant to search his mobile home they were looking for
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evidence in relation to the vehicle fire and to a missing person's investigation
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and remember he was also the main suspect in the disappearance of cara they collected a blue plaid shirt
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and an alcohol pad and a q-tip with blood on them but more importantly they found kyler yust hiding out just as
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jessup had said photos of kyler taken by police show that he had burns on his face
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he also had burns and blisters on his arms and hands and in my opinion captain if you look
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closely at these pictures you can see he also has scratches on his face and hands that came possibly
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from jessica runions defending herself well it's interesting that you point that out because that's in my notes but
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that's not reported anywhere well since they had no idea where jessica was police did not feel that they had enough
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to arrest kyler for her murder they don't know in fact at this point if she has been killed they
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just know that she's missing at this time so what they did do though was they arrested him on charges of knowingly
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burning a vehicle which of course is not as serious as murder but at least it would ensure that
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he would be locked up for a while right while they're going to try to obtain other evidence against kyler but also
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based on what his half-brother is saying it leads you to the idea that we need to
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find her and chances are you're not going to find you're not going to find jessica live yes
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in these situations you are looking for a live missing person until you have something to suggest otherwise and hear
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with jessup's story that he's telling to police we have something to suggest otherwise very sad
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and disgusting kyler was taken in by detectives from the kansas city police department's fugitive apprehension unit
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on wednesday september 14th this was his 28th birthday he was arrested and held on fifty thousand
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dollars cash only bond and at this time in our timeline captain kyler wasn't talking to anyone anymore
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kansas city police issued a press release conducted searches for jessica interviewed all of her friends and
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acquaintances and followed up on tips and leads they searched the area where jessica's
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car was found for two days reportedly they collected a bag that belonged to jessica found where the
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vehicle was set ablaze they continued searches for jessica over the next few months
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even asking the public for any type of surveillance footage that they may have from their homes or from businesses that
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were near the location that the vehicle was found well this is like deja vu to this small
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town 25 000 people this just happened nine years ago where we were looking for car
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and now we're looking for jessica this whole community is going to rally around these families
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cara's family is going to rally around jessica's family and i wish more communities were like this
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and it's just great to see in this case so the authorities searched kyler's grandfather's apartment remember he's
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living there briefly with his grandfather once he got out of prison this was in the 8700 block of crescent
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avenue kyler's grandfather his name alfred yust aged 85 at the time told the police he
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didn't know what was going on with kyler as he hadn't been around for a few days
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alfred later told the star that kyler was a good boy when he was living with him and his late wife he said he never
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saw this side of kyler that police say they were seeing meanwhile jamie runions this is jessica's mother was going crazy
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with worry about her missing daughter right where could she be well you would think that law
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enforcement would have relayed they basically have a confession from kyler to jessup about him strangling jessica and
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leaving her out in the woods her family spent the time captain conducting organized searches actively looking for
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jessica and handing out flyers they told the media that these activities keep us from sitting at home
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waiting for a phone call adding that we can't just sit this was mike runyan's jessica's grandfather told
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the kansas city star jamie found some solace in the only person who could understand what she was
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going through believe it or not it's rhonda beckford we've heard that name before that's
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because that's kara kopetsky's mother rhonda and her husband carr's stepfather they've been actively keeping carr's
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case in the public eye for all these years now organizing rallies and walks and keeping the belton police
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accountable even as the investigation dragged on with seemingly nothing rhonda told the kansas city star
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that when she first learned on the news that jessica runions was missing and that she had last been seen with a
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man named kyler yust her heart sank she reached out to jaime rhonda said her primary focus now was
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supporting jamie and helping her stay positive she told the star quote when you're
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going through something like this you have to hold on to hope if you don't you end up in a very dark place that's
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good advice she hoped that with kyler's arrest some light would be shed on what happened to her daughter cara as well as
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jessica over the next months with no sign of jessica her family held vigils sold t-shirts passed out flyers
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and tried to keep the pressure on the police to find their missing girl they also searched everywhere they could
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dedicating as many as three days a week every week to look for jessica and this is kind of shocking here captain
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not once but twice in fact two weeks in a row groups out looking for jessica discovered other human remains
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they found bodies in brushy wooded areas bodies that were not jessica or cara at least the family thought that they
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were providing some type of closure for some other families if not their own well and also remember
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if you go back nine years prior this restraining order against kyler was that he was choking cara
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so now here we have another situation where somebody's claiming that he strangled jessica yeah and like you
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pointed out the belton authorities it looks like they were fairly certain that kyler was the one responsible for
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cara's disappearance way back in 2007 and they just couldn't prove it belton pd lieutenant brad swanson often visited
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kyler in prison and made sure that kyler saw him when he was set free so he tells
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the kansas city star that i make sure that he never forgets that i'm around and this is interesting because it looks
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like since 2009 the kansas city municipal court records show that police gave kyler at least
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eight traffic citations for everything from failure to obey traffic signs parking in an improper
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manner and running a red light i mean these are all things that they should issue citations for anyway
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but it almost gives the appearance that the police always seem to be around or on the lookout for kyler
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they're kind of letting them know we're watching you now that kansas city police had kyler
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incarcerated for that car fire and again he finds himself being the suspect number one in a disappearance of
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yet another young woman belton police began working with the kansas city police department to gather
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evidence against kyler that could help them both put murder cases together against him well in 2010 he was accused
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of trying to choke his 18 year old girlfriend to death and he was also accused of trying to
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kill her three cats so what we have here captain is sadly cara's case goes cold and then all these
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years later jessica goes missing we have months that go by and it looks like we're in danger of the same thing
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happening here in this case well it's hard to get a conviction if you don't have
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the body well the break that law enforcement needed it comes in the spring of 2017.
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this when a mushroom hunter keith todd was exploring the woods near a quarry for
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fungi on april third 3rd 2017 he was in the area of 233rd street and y highway this is in
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cass county a heavily wooded area south of belton todd came upon what he immediately
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recognized as a human skull he called police and reported what he found police roped off the area and
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looked for any evidence that they could find and sure enough they found more human bones
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they were scattered many had been gnawed on and some were never found police called the parents of both
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jessica and cara to let them know that remains had been found this was standard operating procedure of
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course they had no idea whether the remains belonged to either of the girls at that
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time right remember search teams had found bodies twice before on january 21st and january 28th that were not
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the girls that they were looking for but rhonda and jamie did not sleep much that
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night this is what they let her later said to the media well if you're law enforcement
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i i wonder if they're more hopeful for one remains or the other because with the car case
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you have some evidence that points towards kyler but with the jessica case especially
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with this supposed confession to jessup his half brother that if you find her remains
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you're going to be able to build a stronger case against him because you have that confession in the in your back
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pocket so while they're waiting on pins and needles then the next day a second set of
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human remains believed to have been there much longer were found now at the time jamie and ronda were
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sitting down for a joint tv interview the call came in from lieutenant brad swanson who told them i'm not going to
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say 100 percent but just my gut is telling me we may have some resolution police then summoned the families of
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both jessica and carr to a meeting at the police station jamie and ronda faced the media afterwards holding hands they
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had to wait for confirmation of their worst fears but they said if the remains were the girls
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they were glad they were together and indeed the kansas city medical examiner's office and state crime lab
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identified the first set of remains as jessica runions after jessica was id'd ronda carr's mom acknowledged that it
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could take months to determine whether the older bones found near jessica belong to her daughter she said quote in
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my heart of hearts i believe it's kara here we are still waiting yet again end quote the second set of remains was
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finally identified through dna as cara on august 16 2017 this with the help of the fbi crime lab
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in quantico jamie said that while she had searched for months and months for her daughter
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she never went as far as the 233rd street location where the remains were eventually found
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[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] all right we're back you filthy animals cheers to you
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cheers to everyone out there all right captain how about a little background information on kyler here
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what we could find says he was born in 1988 reportedly he never knew his mother joanine until his
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teen years and his father kenny as we have seen or heard was reportedly a meth addict
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kyler was raised by his grandparents this is alfred and doris yust and he was troubled from a very early
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age court documents filed by his attorney cite kyler being sexually abused as a child and suffering from
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ptsd as a result and maintained that he also was diagnosed with bipolar disorder whatever
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the cause of his delinquency court documents reflect that kyler has said he started abusing alcohol at a very young
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age at the age of 11 smoking pot at age 12 and using cocaine at age 14 saying he even dabbled in heroin by age
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16. people who knew him said that he was very charismatic as you pointed out earlier but people also said he could
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turn angry within seconds and as a teen he started getting into legal trouble one early arrest was from
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2010 thus for stealing from a tattoo parlor where he worked for which he served 10 days in jail and
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soon after he nearly killed a woman this is going to kind of flesh out that story
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that you were talking about a little bit earlier here the one from 2010 yeah this
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was a girlfriend of kylers and she should be described in my opinion as very very lucky because she
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was able to eventually get away from kyler still alive this was candace martin st claire
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kyler assaulted her sometime in 2010 and at that time candace was 18 and six months pregnant with twins fathered by
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kyler the two were living together for about six months but his behavior became increasingly aggressive and violent so
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she was trying to leave him kyler came home drunk one night when she was packing her bags to leave and he
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grabbed her around the throat with both hands pinning her to the bed she said that he looked deranged as he was
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choking her until she would almost lose consciousness and then he punched her to make sure
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that she would stay awake and aware she says that she finally passed out but when she woke up he was lying behind her
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spooning her and whispering i love you and telling her that if she was good that would not happen again this guy's a
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raging psychopath but this was not the entire story for one thing candace told police that at two different times kyler
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killed some kittens right in front of her the couple had three kittens together and
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for my own sake and everybody else's without going into any detail he killed them all
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kyler was beating up candace in fact he bragged to her that he had killed a girlfriend in the
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past and would do the same to her if she left him well the killing of the cats is
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that's luca magnata [ __ ] you know puka not hotter nevertheless candace said that she felt sorry for kyler
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as he threatened to kill himself often if she left and he also was the father of these unborn twins so
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she kind of felt forced to stay with him at that time she didn't report the attack at the time
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but after a while with the kittens and some other stuff his behavior became so frightening
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that she left and didn't look back yeah good for her and after she left she noticed him
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following her and him leaving threatening messages for her to find part of the problem is that these guys
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are so manipulative and they can twist words and they can make you think that you're crazy but you have to have your
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radar out for these creep bags and family members and friends have to have their radars out for these creep bags
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and i wish people would just raise better men so women wouldn't have to put up with
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this [ __ ] she too attempted to obtain an order of protection against kyler eventually she
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had it dropped this once they got back together they were on and off for quite some time
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it looks like before it was finally over candace said that she did not realize that kyler was a suspect in a girl's
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disappearance until she googled him and found that there was a connection between him and kara kopetsky well and
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she would have found that cara's claims against kyler are the same claims that she was making
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because he he does this to every girl he dates then a judge ordered the arrest of kyler for failing to
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appear in court for each of the tattoo parlor incident and the kitten killing situations he was arrested
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and charged with animal cruelty so kyler pled guilty and got two years probation for
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several charges right he eventually violated his probation by failing to attend a single
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this is crazy he's ordered to attend 26 court mandated batterers intervention classes
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he fails to attend a single one like not even gonna fake it for a little while right because he's a giant bag of
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[ __ ] so at that time captain his probation was then revoked and he's sentenced to
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180 days in jail he eventually serves 120 of that but look if you know for a fact
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that kyler if you're law enforcement you know for a fact that this horrible human
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well he's at this point he's not even acting in any way shape or form like a human
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he kills several cats that you got to give him more than two years probation even with all this violence
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and stuff going on he's also busy committing other types of crimes and several of these are serious
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crimes at some point he got in big time legal trouble when he got caught receiving a shipment
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from china of quote-unquote designer drugs this was an intercepted by customs agents in san francisco
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this was a something i'm very i'm really not familiar with here thankfully this was a drug with the street name
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meow meow wait so he's killing cats and he's taking drugs called meow meow well probably looking to sell them if
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he's not oh he's taking them he's consuming them and looking to sell them because
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eventually he's going to be charged with a felony of drug trafficking based off of this situation so he's sentenced to
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45 months in federal prison and he only ends up serving about 27 months of this and he was permitted to live in a
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halfway house for two months after that and then starting in april of 2016 he was ordered to home confinement in
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his grandfather's apartment this in kansas city so this kind of brings us up to the point of jessica
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going missing in september of 2016. but like you said when jessica goes missing we we know she was last
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seen with kyler then we know through his half brother jessup that we burned her vehicle jessup is also
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telling you hey kyler confessed to me saying that he strangled her and threw her out in the woods yeah but i also
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find it weird we talk about this all the time i don't care if he's your half brother
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or what he is if a scumbag tells you hey choke this girl and i threw her out in the woods
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and i i need to help me burn her car he he better have something damn good on you
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or you shouldn't be helping in the first place and i find it very strange that he
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showed jessup shows up to help kyler jessup shows up with his girlfriend and she's
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i and and i'd like to know a little bit more information on this i couldn't find
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it but she had a pistol with her well we have to keep in mind that often people don't realize they're an accessory
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to a crime until their accessory to a crime right you usually don't lead in with hey i murdered someone can you help
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me a lot of times it's uh hey i need you to pick me up from here or i need you to
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meet me here and then next thing you know your hands are dirty as well well see that's also why i
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wondered and wasn't that clear is it possible that kyler says hey come pick me up here
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jessup shows up and the car is already on fire and he had nothing to do with the car actually being on fire other
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than he was there because kyler obviously got some pretty bad burn marks from the
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fire jessup did it yeah so that is really all the information that's leading us up to
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when jessica runions vanishes in 2016 which was on september 8th i do want to point out too that by the
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time that kyler is arrested in 2016 for the burning vehicle he had three children at that point now kyler's first
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court appearance after this arrest was eagerly attended by rhonda beckford carr's family had made sure to send
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someone to every court appearance of kyler's throughout the years so remember how we pointed out that the police kind
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of reminded kyler over the years hey we're watching you we don't like you we think you're a scumbag he received a lot
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of traffic citations anytime he was charged with something that was big enough to hit the papers
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over the years carr's parents would show up and sit in court yeah that's awesome
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and kind of rally behind the idea of well we don't have any answers in our case in our daughter's case but at least
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the guy that we're convinced did this is going to be locked up even if it's just for months
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he's going to be locked up well a lot of these missing person cases where it takes them a long time to find
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any remains especially when there's some kind of accomplice normally it takes a very long time for
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the accomplice to come forward but jessup's calling law enforcement the night that this happens
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yeah and that's where the storytelling portion of this case gets a little difficult to follow along in the
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timeline because what we're going to see here captain is kyler will be arrested and charged for
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burning jessica's vehicle but keep in mind when he's arrested and charged with that
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there is no bodies at this time we've not located jessica we've not located cara
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and it makes the story kind of not follow along a natural order to things so currently on our timeline we have
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kyler arrested for burning jessica's vehicle now remember that jessup carter kyler's half brother
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called the police and reported kyler for burning her car but also for killing jessica
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this was in september 2016. in april of 2017 an article in the star reported that police had been seeking jessup
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carter on an outstanding felony charges for a traffic stop that went down on the day jessica's car was burned
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this was on the 10th of september deputies from the henry county sheriff's office pulled over jessop's 1998 dodge
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durango for crossing the center line and drifting onto the grass on northeast missouri highway number two as well for
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failing to have a working plate illumination light in the vehicle at the time were kyler used
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and a woman named crystal taylor this is jessup's long time girlfriend the cops first the occupants of the
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vehicle and found a knife on jessup and a gun on crystal jessup was charged in april of 2017 this
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six months later with resisting a traffic stop as well as multiple misdemeanors such as driving without a
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license being uninsured and failing to display plates but he was also wanted on a charge of failure to appear in a
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domestic assault case this whole bloodline is full of [ __ ] jessup eventually turned himself into
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authorities on april 28th it's not clear why the charges were were just now filed
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in 2017 when the incident took place in 2016 it seems likely that the police wanted
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to keep pressure on jessup to give them more information about kyler and what the three of them were doing
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that day after jessica's car was found on fire so on may 4th 2017 this is at the 10th annual walk for
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cara we have over 100 people here walking in observance of the 10th anniversary of
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her disappearance you know they're holding signs honoring the young woman demonstrating support for the family
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she had still not been identified at this time remember it wasn't until august 16th
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that she was officially confirmed via dna but my hat goes off and you have to applaud this community how much they
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rallied around both of these girls cara and jessica yes and at this at this annual walk for cara we have her
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mother rhonda who tells the newspaper i am finally relieved to have confirmation
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we've known for a long time that cara was gone and we felt when they found the other remains
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that the other set was kara it's been a long 10 years and this is the start of hopefully moving forward
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toward a prosecution kyler's trial for the vehicle arson was scheduled to commence on october 23 2017
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but on the fifth of that month there was big news kyler was officially charged with murder
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for the killings of jessica and cara the initial charges included two counts of abandonment of a corpse
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but these charges were later dismissed the probable cause affidavit stated that at least four people told
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investigators that kyler had confessed to choking cara to death he told some that he put her body in the
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woods and others that she would never be found in october 6 2017 article said it's not
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clear why yust was not charged in kopetsky's death earlier and a follow-up article says
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might jessica be alive today had he been arrested in connection with kara's death based on those multiple
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recountings to acquaintances about the killing these articles are pointing out that police had
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witness statements months after carr went missing that kyler killed her right and so now everybody's really concerned
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that hey we may have saved a life if we could have locked this guy up all those years earlier yeah and the
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community is law enforcement can't make this mistake again right and so what we have here now
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captain we have kyler's going to face charges in multiple counties but you have the counties that are kind of going
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to band together and they're like you know what we can afford to drop the arson charges we can cancel that trial
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let's all band together and focus instead on the much more serious murder case so kyler he's allowed to plead not
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guilty to these charges this in october of 2017. now how now a brown cow how now brown
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cow we need to go back just a minute here because after jessup the half brother was released for
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turning himself in in april 2017. well he went on a bit of a bender his girlfriend and then wife crystal
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taylor remember she was the one in the vehicle with kyler and jessup on that night said that after the episode where
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jessup called the police on his brother that he relapsed into drugs and then very quickly went downhill he was
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arrested for domestic violence and she took the kids and stayed in a shelter for a while
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when jessup was arrested again in april of 2017 for failure to appear on those domestic violence charges and for
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various charges from the incident where he was pulled over with kyler and crystal
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he's asked by reporters you know will you comment on kyler use case at this point and he says that he could not
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but that his family did not approve of what kyler had done and they empathized with the girls families
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in july of the same year crystal turned on the news and saw jessup's uncle paul's house
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okay so this is where jessup was staying she sees paul's house on the news because it's on fire
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and jessup was arrested for arson this guy has some issues and for trying to stop firefighters from putting out the
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fire so he's booked into county jail on september 24th jessop was found dead in his cell at 4 30 a.m of an apparent
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suicide he hung himself police said apparently there was an fbi investigation into his death but there
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was nothing to show that it was not a suicide however this is a weird little nugget here
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jessup left behind a note that has been regularly referred to as encrypted and believe it or not that note has
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magically disappeared well maybe i'm just a freak you know maybe i'm just freaked nasty with it but uh when i hear
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suicide cryptid note i want to get my hands on that i want to know what he was trying to communicate and
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and then it makes you wonder why did it go missing jessup was in the back pocket of law enforcement so
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now with the suicide you got to toss that away it's going to make convicting kyler a lot more difficult
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you're exactly right and that was the fear the shared fear at that time we have both jessica and carr's families
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they're now very concerned that jessup is dead he was expected or at least they expected him to be the star witness in
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the state's murder case against kyler jessup even once proclaimed that he wanted the families to feel better at
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night that kyler was finally put away i mean those are his words so you would expect him to be the star witness
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but clearly he must have been conflicted about testifying against kyler or you know he was spiraling out of control
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it's really tough to say when we examine this situation here well he had that heavy drug addiction that he was back at
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but another little interesting nugget here captain is that at this time yeah it was not public information
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that jessup had ratted out kyler you did it right so i don't know if he was dreading
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testifying against him or what have you but he commits suicide the prosecutors have
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to forge ahead and they go on record saying jessup was a problematic witness anyway right
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because he was in jail for arson and had two protective orders taken out against him so while he may have had
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good information to offer up on the stand they weren't super in love with this guy because he was no saint himself
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well again he calls right away after this after they set fire to jessica's vehicle
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and then now he commits suicide it's almost like he was so remorseful or so so much hated that he was involved at
00:39:28
all that that's why he took his own life seems that way to me anyways it very well could be it also could be
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i think it's probably a mountain of things or maybe he is more involved than he's even telling people
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and he just couldn't live with himself it looks to me regardless of his involvement he was
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going to go away to prison himself right and that might have not been something that he was willing to live
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with yeah i agree with you kyler's attorneys they were doing their best at this time
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to delay the trial and to dig up evidence exonerating kyler in december of 2019 they sought the
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right to independently test the remains found by the mushroom hunter as well as hair recovered from an suv
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searched by the fbi in 2013. this was the vehicle of someone who had been looked at as a potential other
00:40:26
suspect in cara's case the defense is trying to raise concerns about this alternative suspect well
00:40:35
they're trying to do the same thing that kyler was doing point in every direction
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other than himself correct and that and that's not where the twists and turns stop with this case
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he's going to start throwing more people under the bus once this hits trial well and the thing too is
00:40:53
this is kind of leaving the door open right once jessup kills himself now if you're the defender of kyler
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you're looking at this through a different lens you're going okay well maybe regardless of what the police say
00:41:09
he very likely could have been their star witness now that guy's gone so the door is open to a potential
00:41:15
defense here and the first thing that they start attacking is look there was another suspect at one point in at least
00:41:21
cara's murder and in car's disappearance and what they're saying at this point is
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we don't think that this guy was thoroughly investigated well it's too bad jessup took his own life because we
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could have got him on the stand like and a few good men and said colonel jessup i want the truth
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give me the truth the defense for kyler also filed motions challenging some of the witness statements in the case
00:41:50
because they allege that a kansas city police officer who was working the case was told to step back from it as this
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officer was involved in a sexual relationship with one of the witnesses but then continued to investigate the
00:42:07
case even after being told not to so the defense questioned the integrity of the evidence and the integrity of the
00:42:15
investigation itself at one point the defense made a motion to have the judge removed
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because they argued that he was biased against their client this motion was denied by another judge
00:42:28
and they allege that their confidential phone email and text conversations with kyler from jail were improperly recorded
00:42:38
and reviewed by the cass county sheriff's office yeah they're just trying every freaking trick in the book
00:42:43
and they're you know just pulling [ __ ] out of their ass throwing this [ __ ] on the wall and
00:42:48
seeing what sticks on august 23 2019 kyler's attorneys filed a motion to have him declared incompetent to stand trial
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and seeking a psych evaluation a mental evaluation found that he was in fact competent to stand trial however
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there was some back and forth as the defense attorneys objected to this finding and insisted on a second opinion
00:43:13
they then backed out of the second opinion but required kyler to be medicated for anxiety and depression
00:43:22
which who knows how much of it was smoke and mirrors by the defense team the trial eventually
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commenced in april of 2021 but not before kyler's defense attorneys moved for a change of venue claiming
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that he could not receive a fair trial in cass county eventually both sides agreed that the
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trial would stay in cass county but jurors would be imported from saint charles county closer to st louis
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meanwhile the poor families of our victims had to endure more waiting and a statement from john runyon said we want
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justice for jessica and cara which in turn would be justice for our families and
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