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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] old Fahmy Malak passed away August 21st
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he lived to be an old man though right like was it was he in his 80s I don't know and in the 80s he looked
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like he's in his 80s he's one of those guys that like I think when he was probably born like when he's 20 he
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became 80 yeah yeah he looked old when we like you said at the time of that case of the boys on the tracks case yeah
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but we had a lot of fun with Fahmy Malak and filling Fahmy shirts i put as a 20%
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off okay in 99 I just looked so he died Fahmy Malak died Tuesday the 21st at the
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age of 85 is what this says mm-hmm and it sounds like he 85 years too long sounds like he was in Clearwater Florida
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yeah if you look for bringing down the class the class level of Clearwater Florida
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well you know how that you know when he was in Arkansas how they move they end up moving him it's a different
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department and then from there he took a job somewhere and I was reading that there I think he was up to making a
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hundred and sixty-five thousand dollars a year and he clearly got a Jetta I mean clearly he's either he's either
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corrupt as hell or or dumb as hell and just doesn't know how to perform his job I mean give me 65,000 the hot seat here
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and I'll do his job so okay so Fahmy Malak has passed away we we have Fahmy Malak t-shirts yeah
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here's the marked him down to 1999 here's the problem with selling t-shirts with Fahmy Malak odd on the t-shirt
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because not only was he old looking in the 80s he was also very ugly in the he's an ugly man yeah he uh but they're
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they're nice t-shirts I love and I love the the phrase feeling Fahmy yeah it's just I mean I just still laugh about it
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alright let's go let's get a little serious cuz we got a lot of updates on the Molly Tibbets case that we should
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get to so my first thoughts here captain are a couple things I did talk to a lot
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of people last week when the shows came out on Tuesday Wednesday Thursday you know talking to a lot of people people
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reached out to me a lot of great feedback people loved that we were trying to cover something as it was
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happening some people thought maybe we rushed it a bit I did have a couple people that said hey you should have
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just waited until the press conference and told us what really happened we would have waited for the episode and
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my response to that is unfortunately that wasn't an option we didn't have the choice of doing that and we were
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actually doing something last week for the first time it was new for us as many shows as we've done to do something that
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did news is breaking as we are recording the episodes and I think there was some
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confusion because our goal was to just talk about our disappearance on the way to the garage I get a text message
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saying that they found Molly and so that that changed things so I think there was
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some listeners that just thought because there was breaking news in the morning that we just jumped on the case no that
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was not the case we're gonna try to shine light on her disappearance and maybe you know help get some closure but
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then it happened all that day yeah we were going to cover it anyway we were going to talk specifically about what
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was known about the disappearance right what some of the theories were on the internet and and some of the rumors
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coming out of Brooklyn Iowa that was our intent and it takes me depending on traffic 45 minutes to maybe slightly
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over an hour to meet up with you in the garage on some days and what happened last week was before I left my house I
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actually googled Molly Tibbets just to see that by chance were that was there some kind of update because they were
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looking and I'll tell you what man you cannot say enough about the investigation in the investigators that
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were involved in that they worked their asses off and they didn't quit they weren't gonna quit until til they found
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some answers and so because of that I hid the old Google machine right before I left my
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house and I said hey yeah was there any updates no nothing at that time I Drive here and I can't remember I wasn't
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listening to the radio so they may have made an announcement on the radio but whatever I was listening to probably
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sports or something like that was not going to have an update so I up you're already at the garage I get out of my
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car and you go they found her and I you know what to be honest with you I thought you were just [ __ ] with me
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because yeah because I make jokes like that all that well no no not that it would be a bad joke just then it you
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know aha any time so when we select a case okay sometimes we select them weeks in advance sometimes we select them for
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next week and with molly's case it was in the news we selected it for the next week yeah we also were getting hundreds
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of emails saying you know bring attention to this case please it would have been straight up rude to the
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listeners had we not covered it because we received so many so just an outpour of people wanting to know more about the
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case and to keep it in on everyone's mind and so when we started when we decided we were going to cover it hmm
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one thing that we kind of chatted about as we would talk about the case throughout the week was you know this
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could they could find her at any moment right there could be breaking news on this at any moment we just need to be
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aware of that we need to constantly remind ourselves to check and check and check and check and that's why what I
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mean is that I thought you were messing with me I thought like you know cuz that's where our last conversation was
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and I pull up and the reason - I had just checked before I left my house you're like right and they found her and
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I'm like really when I gave you one of those little Kennett little attitude really win right and the tough thing
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here too is there was a lot of her father's you know very intelligent man and he had a gut
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feeling that that she was alive and that somebody took her and I kept thinking well maybe it's gonna be a good scenario
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where where they do find her within that timeframe of us researching the case but
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that she's alive and and then when we get the sad news that she's found dead you know it just
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kind of changed everything for our show and we just try to do the best we can and again one of the reasons why we
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can't wait is we have a schedule that we committed to and that's how we're able to have advertisers and they're able to
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fund the show so people can listen for free so well essentially so just so everybody understands this most simple
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way to break this down is we were punting we weren't drawing up plays and in calling them we were we were punting
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we were adapting to a situation that was it was a tough one to be in and it not because of the podcast but because of
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we're getting breaking news and it's not news that we want to hear it's sad news
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well let's get to what we do know now okay so there was an individual that was arrested okay and we learned this from
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the press conference and the thing that's so interesting to me here captain two things that I saw in this
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investigation that you don't see in every single investigation one the police worked incredibly hard on this
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and it seemed like they were all one front you know it was all one group working in unison together they were
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going to get this thing and solved this thing as soon as possible the other thing that was interesting we talked
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about the community a community of only 1400 people first thing I noticed in the
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press conference was how many times they said they being law enforcement said this community helped us solve this case
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this community was involved in this investigation right everybody that knew anything or thought anything thought
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they saw anything they were coming forward and then there's also anybody that was coming forward the
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had any video footage was coming forward and submitting that video footage or any
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store that they asked for video footage they were receiving that with no fight back at all where sometimes people will
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say you know we don't have to give you our surveillance footage until you get a warrant for it and when
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we were trying to put together the episodes you heard us there we took a break because we thought we had the name
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of the individual that was arrested it turns out that what that man has was not arrested as far as I know no and he
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actually possibly was one of the guys that helped get video footage right he may have had some kind of you know we
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talked about different security systems here on our program from time to time you can have these that are set up to
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have video surveillance and he may have had just that and offering that up and that may be where his name came from
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yeah and we got that we were recording live and a very credible source that I talked about a lot on the show
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my buddy Morgan was giving us the information he was the individual that text me earlier on my way to the garage
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saying that they they found her so he is a very credible source and he was digging for information thought that was
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a name and it was misreported and in the report he was reading to me so that's how we got the name and you want to talk
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about filling like a dick nose I mean I'm gonna feel like a dick nose forever for you know having this individual
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associated with that he was arrested for her murder well and nobody deserves that
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and and I deepest apologies to him because like we said we we were just going off the fly yeah and and in you
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know Morgan who was trying to help us out mm-hmm I love that guy too man because he he has apologized a thousand
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times for hey hey you know and it's like it was great to it was great to know that he was passionate about the case
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too because he wasn't just going oh well it happened you know he didn't wasn't just kind of brushing it off he was over
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apologetic and why he's super passionate about the true-crime community true crime garage true crime listeners
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so hopefully we get him on the show I mean he's been begging to be on I will consider it on a off the record show
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he's been begging for it if we if we ever sell out of Fahmy Malak shirts then that will be an excellent Morgan be on
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the show so the man that was actually arrested in this case is 24 year old Christian Riviera mm-hmm and he is
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illegal immigrant living in the Brooklyn Iowa area he had lived there we're getting a little bit of sketchy news and
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what I mean by that is because he was living and working there illegally let's say off the books he was actually on the
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books so where he worked I actually believe that he worked at the pig farm and he was a farmer he worked farm land
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I don't know for certain that it was yet I remember how the pig farm became not a
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pig farm hmm the reports that I've seen said that it's part of that group okay so that's why they would find some stuff
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you know the red shirt maybe it was hers maybe it wasn't but they found some stuff in that area and he gave false
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information right employer right so but again I think these employers need to do
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a little bit better of a job of researching that information that they're getting I'm not going to pretend
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to have complete understanding of how that works but what from what I've read is that there's something called an
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e-verify keishon process right and supposedly the information he provided to them to the employer he passed all of
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that Iver fan right here here because here's where the problem becomes so you pass the e-verification whatever right
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and then they give you a check and then you have that same information that you gave the employer the illegal immigrant
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has that same information that they gave the employer to get the job illegally then they go get a bank account and and
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so we're talking about checks and balances and checks and balances that people didn't do right
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I've had several times where people have come in to me and they go well here's my
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ID and here's my check mm-hmm now the name and everything matches but the picture doesn't match and maybe he had a
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fake ID with his picture on it who knows but they have to do a better job of checking checks and balances and if that
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didn't happen I mean if that happened correctly then these illegal immigrants wouldn't have a chance to have a job and
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and maybe they want to be here illegally so Christian Riviera the guy that's been
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arrested and charged with first-degree murder charged with the first-degree murder of Molly Tibbets my understanding
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captain is that he was not using false information or fake information to to have that job he was using someone's
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actual legal information that's that's wrong yeah he he just took somebody else's information that's why I'm saying
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did the picture on his ID match him mm-hmm because the people had the banks should
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have known that right you know so people can talk about building a wall and and the Border Patrol and all that crap but
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there's stuff that people can do within their community you know to alleviate some of this issue right and so my
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understanding is that he actually led them to her body and this being what what led them to him was surveillance
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footage yeah that they had some kind of footage from somebody we don't know who which shows a dark colored Chevy Malibu
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in the area where she was jogging where she was running old city Malibu and so somehow this has not been released but
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this is me kind of guessing here is that they somehow linked that vehicle to him
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well the other report to or some speculation is that the V the video actually shows that he was falling her
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in a car trying to with her through the window and when that wasn't working he actually stopped
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the car and got out and if that was you know that could be on the footage as well they're not gonna release any of
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that information not until the trial well in his defense attorney already submitted a gag order okay because at
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the press conference they said a lot right you know a lot more than they normally say so it's
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possible that he could have been following her in the car got out of the car which he did that's what he
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confessed to but that possibly could be on video footage and hit the words he uses is that he ran along he ran after
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her and then ran alongside her which sorry but that's called chasing he was chasing her or stalking yeah
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and at some point she says hey man and and I'm gonna call the police you know get away from me I'm calling the police
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and this is when he says he flipped out he got angry and next thing he knows he blacks out he claims it that he has
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moments when he gets really angry that he blacks out hmm again claims this he states that the
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next thing that he knows he's driving and he sees a white earbud on his lap to which then he goes I think she might be
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in the trunk of my car well he finds her in the trunk of his car and sure her head is bloodied and she's she's passed
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away at this point to which he then takes her to a country road to a to a cornfield and my understanding captain
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is this cornfield is somewhat near the the former pig farm that we've discussed several times again I think that's why I
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believe the report that says that he worked in some kind of conjunction with that farm well and that's oh he would
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have known that area and if he left her there with the Fitbit or with her phone and either were on for any period of
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time that might be why they were searching in that area right and the thing we have to
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understand here is a lot of times especially when these devices when they lose power when they
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power down Europe you might only get a general location of where that device is you're not going to you may not get a
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pinpoint location of exactly where that device is so they could have been hunting and searching in the right area
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it sounds like they were and if we can only assume that it was a Fitbit or a phone that led them there originally he
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leads them to the body to which he had already covered it up with leaves and things from from the cornfield and the
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thing here is what's crazy is there's a chance that if they wouldn't have got all this hardcore police work and found
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this dude through good hardcore police work right I wonder I wonder if there's a chance she may not have been found I
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don't know how I don't know the process of harvesting that corn but I do know that there's big giant machines that are
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used to do that and had she not been found in in advance it might have made the process even more difficult yeah
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yeah and then you also have you know animals in nature to deal with it as well and you know what we've heard this
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crap before from some of these guys that say hey I blacked out no I think that's
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[ __ ] right and here's here's what it is and in my opinion is that during the course of this timeframe that he claims
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to have been blacked out he did things that that he is embarrassed of he does things that he does not want want to
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talk about or want to discuss and that's his easy way of giving himself an easy out and just saying hey I blacked out
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during the portion of this whatever happened then and then I woke up and she was dead yeah that wasn't me man that
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was me when i black out yeah you know so he will be he he's being charged with first-degree murder mm-hmm and that
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should come to trial I know he's already been presented the charges but they don't have a death penalty so he would
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only be looking at life imprisonment for these charges and you know he looks like great right have you
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ever seen a like a goatee with the hairs but the hair is kind of up a little bit
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mm-hmm kind of fluffed up yeah I'm looking at a picture of him right now he looks like that if you put it on piece
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of [ __ ] right right no so but no death penalty that will not be on the table it just be life in
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prison a couple I mean at least they're like we talked about before I don't know
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if there's ever closure I don't know if I mean it at least the family gets to hear the why but I don't think that
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gives them closure but at least they know the information I think sometimes when the families don't know the
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information of what happened to their loved ones it's harder to start rebuilding and reliving their lives
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right so I think you know you know our thoughts are with the family and all of her friends and but that we've seen so
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many cases where people don't get any answers and they're just left wondering and I think that would possibly wear on
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you a little more well he had lived there for seven years and so he would be somewhat recognizable in a town of only
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1400 people yeah it's a supposedly they didn't know each other though right he had a child with somebody and that
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person with an ex-girlfriend yeah and that person has some kind of connection I've heard they might have
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been Facebook friends or something of that nature maybe we went to school together and so it's possible that Molly
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knew of this individual but maybe didn't know him so the FBI profilers were correct on that when it came out that
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it's and that's what's really difficult here is because one a lot of people are trying to make this a very political
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issue I know the president talked about it's not a political issue it's uh it's a [ __ ] but one individual that killed
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somebody I know that people are gonna take it and use it either way for their agenda but I mean that's not what we do
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on this show we don't talk politics you know the the articles that I've been reading over the course of this weekend
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were it's a lot of people saying hey in a town this small it's scary and terrifying for us to believe and now
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have the understanding of that her killer was somebody that we would see at the grocery store right or see it would
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be somebody that we would pass in traffic and I agree with that 100% but that but the scary thing to me the the
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the most terrifying part of this to me is that that split to set that split decision to decide to murder someone who
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we have no reason to believe that they knew each other at all this guy apparently just was driving and
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saw her and all of a sudden it goes from from I see that person I might kill that
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person Wow I think like I said everybody's arguing you know the if the illegal immigrant issue it is a fact
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that if you know he technically wasn't supposed to be here mm-hmm so therefore if he wasn't here illegally he never
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would have had the chance to murder Molly and and that's true and what I wonder is this individual did a lot to
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get a job use fake information I think I mean he went to work afterwards mm-hm and I just wonder when she said I'm
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gonna call the cops if that was the trigger you know the trigger and if that was that becomes the motive
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if she calls the cops maybe the you know my job didn't figure out that I'm not who I say I am the bank didn't figure
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out there's probably a bunch of other entities that didn't figure out he's not who he says he is maybe the cops will
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hmm and if the cops figure that out I'm gone mm-hmm and maybe that was the motive it was a sad week last week and
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like you said and like we said at the end of the show's last week our thoughts and hearts are with the family and all
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we can do now is take this guy to court take him to trial and get that guilty verdict hmm and that I don't know when
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the healing starts but regardless that trial needs to happen and it needs that might be able to help the healing start
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at some point [Music] you