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crime [Music] [Music] tragic story about the brutal killing of a 38-year-old man that's how a crown
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attorney described the evidence of what a Winnipeg jury will hear for the next several weeks and a warning the details
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are extremely graphic at the trial today the jury heard Robin Green from scha Lake was stabbed to death 68 times it
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happened on July 1st 2003 he was decapitated and his body cut up into eight separate pieces and left in a
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bathtub in a suite in the Royal Albert hotel the crown says the victim's organs were
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removed and never found Sydney teer house Moore is charged with second deegree murder his lawyer
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Greg Bry told the jury they agree tier house Moore is the killer but says his client doesn't know how the killing took
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place the jury was told that tear house wrote letters to a Canadian journalist and American publisher depicting The
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Killing itself teer house also explains how he's infatuated with Jeffrey dmer the American serial killer who cut up
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his victims Court heard the previous day green met tear house over drinks at the
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Woodbine Hotel then went back to tier house is Suite to have sex where green was killed Court was told that teer
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house walked into the reman center the following day thinking it was a police station he told the corrections worker
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that he had been drinking that he blacked out and that when he awoke the body was chopped up in his tub back at
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his hotel room months after the killing at the Royal Albert hotel it appears a man
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charged with the murder wanted to talk about it but was any of it true that's what a Winnipeg jury must decide at the
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Sydney teer house murder trial while in jail teer House Began corresponding with
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a Winnipeg journalist who at the time had a weekly call-in show on a University radio station zansky
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testified that tear house gave him details about the murder he couldn't have found out any other way the jury
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has heard so far that police were not able to find the internal organs of the victim the end result was supposed to be
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a book about the murder and upcoming Tri trial called trophy kill a title Court was told that teer house came up with he
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remembers almost everything but not the actual killing Sydney teer housee told the jury he blocked out that day in July
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2003 he says he doesn't know how Robin green ended up mutilated in a hotel suite bathtub but what he does remember
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is meeting up with a victim at the Woodbine Hotel tear house describes how the two went on a drinking Bender ending
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up in his suite at the Royal Albert he says he got high on cocaine and oxycotton had sex with green a few times
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and took some nude pictures of the victim eventually the two fell asleep Tios told the jury he woke up about 7
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hours later to a sickening smell in the suite saying quote I entered the bathroom and looked over to the bathtub
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and he was deceased he was dismembered I threw up into the toilet because of what
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I'd seen Tios then walked to the reman center thinking it was a police station staff called 911 Tios admitted to
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telling the 911 operator I think I killed someone while in jail he wrote letters about the killing to a Winnipeg
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writer who promised him a book deal tros now says the Gory letters were all made
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up I had no one to talk to I was locked up 24 hours a day I guess in a sick way it was entertainment for me tear house
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testified he got the killing details from jail library books true crime stories of serial killers like Jeffrey
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Dalmer but the crown argued many details things like blood splatter match the actual crime scene and her details only
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the real killer would know Stacy Ashley CTV News Winnipeg the fate of Sydney teer house
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now rests with a jury they will decide if the man is guilty of manslaughter and the death of
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Robin green or second deegree murder evil that's how the crown describes Sydney teer house telling the
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jury he stabbed and dismembered Robin green then neatly stack the victim's body parts in the bathtub of his hotel
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room cly this man was decapitated he was disemboweled he was eviscerated and certainly the court will take that into
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account but teer House's lawyer says it was not a premeditated murder you can't say this is the worst possible offense
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the worst possible offense would be if he lured somebody premeditated the crime and was guilty of first-degree
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[Music] murder shall we dance is an American film released back in 2004 the film
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debuted on October 15th 2004 now the story takes place in Chicago but the movie was filmed in Winnipeg up in
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Canada back in 200 and3 shall we dance is a romantic comedy starring Richard Gear Jennifer Lopez Susan Sarandon
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Stanley Tucci and Nick Candon among others the film is a remake of the the 1996 Japanese film of the same name it
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is not a remake of the 1937 film shall we dance starring Fred aair and Ginger Rogers the film had a cast full of big
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names and a budget of $50 million so success was really the only expectation once released the film
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grossed more than $1 million opening weekend the film ran at the box office for3 33 days grossing over 57 million in
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the United States and a worldwide total of over $170 million but if anyone tuned in today to
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True Crime garage just to hear about Richard Gear Susan Sarandon or even JLo you're in luck actually I'd be shocked
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stupified even there is a much bigger story here one that fits well within these four walls of our garage Studio a
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sick and disturbing story there are many different versions of this True Crime Story the following timeline may be the
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closest one that we will ever have to the truth in short form this story as you may have guessed takes place in
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Winnipeg Manitoba Canada population about 700,000 people Winnipeg is very much in the South part of Canada
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somewhat near the US border and one of this great City's nicknames is is the Gateway to the West why well if you look
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at a map you'll understand this case takes place back in 2003 on July 1st this is a Canadian national holiday
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called Canada Day on this day Canadians celebrate the anniversary of July 1st 1867 when three separate colonies became
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one and just like the great us ofas Fourth of July this day is celebrated with fireworks parties parades and
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barbecues July 1st 2003 in Winnipeg was a hot summer day 38-year-old Robin green
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traveled a few hundred miles to Winnipeg to visit with family and to celebrate and party for the holiday on this
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morning he was making his way to downtown Winnipeg walking he stumbles Upon A group of onlookers this is a
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group of fans hanging near where they are shooting this movie where they are filming the movie these fans are hoping
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to catch a glimpse of some of the famous movie stars there is a decent amount of
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security Personnel in this area now Robin continues on about a block or two north of this location he finds several
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trailers parked side by side here unfortunately there does not seem to be much in the way of security Personnel
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Robin excited about this opportunity decides to make his way inside of one of these trailers to see what he can find
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he was looking for any goodies that might be lying around so now inside one of these trailers Robin is looking for
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something valuable and inside a cabinet he finds a ziplock bag containing several pieces of jewelry this he
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snatches and Stuffs the zip block into his pocket Robin exits the trailer and continues walking off off he's now
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heading downtown toward Main Street a short time later Susan Sarandon's assistant enters this same trailer the
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one that Robin has just recently fled she notices that one of Susan's earrings is lying on the floor the assistant then
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reports this to Susan and the two do a little investigating and quickly realize that some of Susan's jewelry is missing
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from the trailer is this her actual jewelry or prop jewelry that detail is a bit confusing as it's reported both ways
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I actually believe it to be hers but she did wear some of this jewelry in the filming of the movie right so it makes
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it a little little difficult there around 10:00 a.m. famous actress Susan sandon calls the police this is to
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report that a bag of jewelry was missing from her trailer located on the set of where they are filming the movie shall
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we dance this was a set of gold jewelry a necklace bracelet and one of her earrings remember the other was found on
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the floor of the trailer alerting the assistant that something might be wrong mhm it has been reported too that this
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was costume jewelry which would make it sound or believe that it that it belonged to the studio that was just a
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prop used for the movie further investigation I found that the the necklace which will be really one of the
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centerpiece items of this week's story story The Necklace is valued at $4,000 so probably not just costume jewelry for
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the movie itself not too much later this is around 11:00 a.m. Robin green steps into a bar called the
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Woodbine this bar opened up earlier that day this is an older bar that hosts a hard drinking group of regulars here
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Robin feels at home so he is drinking and chatting with the other patrons there right
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at this bar is where Robin green meets 33-year-old Sydney tuse Sydney is an overweight guy who has
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been at the bar for an hour or so drinking the two do not know each other in fact as said Robin is from out of
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town tier huse was raised in Winnipeg but he had been living out of town for about 10 years now tier huse is a
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recently outof workor chef according to tier huse Robin is chatting with the patrons and flashing this gold
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jewelry that he he has with him and he's offering the jewelry up for sale mhm it's been reported that Robin was
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attempting to get $15 for the gold necklace Robin doesn't find any takers what he does find is tier huse who
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Sparks up a conversation with him and then the two start sharing some drinks now after some drinks tier invites Robin
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green back to his hotel room this is in the early afternoon hours of July 1st the two return to tier hu's hotel room
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tier huse is staying at the Royal Albert hotel and this hotel is nearby it's within walking distance of the bar tear
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house was renting room number 309 once there the two men continue to drink and party this leads to some
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sexual activity and then later some playful Activity one of the men has one of those old disposable cameras so they
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take some photos ironically tier huse takes a photo of Robin green sitting in the
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bathtub after all of this the two would eventually leave the hotel room Robin wanted to take a nap but tar huse wanted
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to go back to the bar I can only assume that they agreed to go back to the bar they did take walk later according to
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one of the men they walk down to where the shall we dance movie down to the filming location here is my general
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understanding of the filming situation it was fairly early on in the filming process and Susan Sarandon was
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on set by this time for a couple of days or so but it was early enough that Jennifer Lopez had not yet arrived into
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town the two men who again just met hours earlier they walked down to the filming location and then they walked
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back to the bar it does not sound like they stayed for very long on this second visit to the bar they did have a drink
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apparently at one point tier huse introduces green to the bartender the bartender would later say that she
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believed that green was quite intoxicated but huse not as much M but T huse wanted to go fetch some ice before
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returning to the room so he asked the bartender after the introduction was made to keep an eye on green which the
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bartender did tier huse returned fairly quickly and then he escorted green back to the Royal Albert hotel and back to
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room 309 according to tier Hughes once the two were there green eventually fell asleep and tier huse blacked out or they
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both blacked out this portion is a bit unclear the next day the morning of July 2nd Sydney tar huse wakes up from a
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blackout due to drugs and alcohol he gets up and he walks into the restroom and there tier Hughes finds the body of
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Robin green dead in the restroom according to T huse he then walks to a nearby building that he
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assumes is a police department when asked you know the standard questions how can I help you or what can we do for
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you tier Hugh says I need to speak with somebody I am staying at a hotel nearby I blacked out last night and when I woke
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up this morning I found a man dead in the bathtub right and at this point we don't know how intoxicated he still is
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or what drugs he still is on or how much he's sobered up and like you said he thinks it's a police police department
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but it's not actually a police department it does make sense that he would believe this to be a police
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building it it is in a sense I mean you would see officers entering and exiting this building but it is not he in fact
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has walked into the Winnipeg remand Center which is a pre-trial detention center located in downtown Winnipeg yeah
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it houses people waiting for Court decisions on their charges or place in correctional centers it is a minimum
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medium and maximum security facility so they have to get someone from the actual
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police department here to talk with this man to make and take his statement well
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they do they dispatch two officers to the remand Center the officers talk with tier huse and take his statement in
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which tier huse very matter of factly explains he spent the day before drinking all day and doing drugs he says
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he met the victim and they went to his room for drinks and for casual sex tiu says he eventually passed out from being
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so intoxicated and then when he woke up and walked into the restroom he found the victim dead yeah how did you do it
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he was asked and tier Hugh said he chopped the guy up with what a knife he said where is the knife now
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it's on the floor of the bathroom at my hotel room right this of course triggering further investigation
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starting with tier huse and three officers going physically going to the Royal Albert hotel to room 309 to
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investigate T huse's hotel room is on the third floor of this old hotel at the time of our case the hotel was like 90
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years old MH this hotel has an elevator but I don't think there was any air conditioning at the hotel and we did say
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this was in the middle of a hot summer yeah what they did find there is truly just like something out of a horror film
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there was no way for the officers to prepare themselves for what they were about to find two officers are going to
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go into the hotel room to see what's going on now an additional op officer and tier huse are going to stay out into
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the hallway so now they are at the Royal Albert hotel standing at the door for room
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309 they open the door and walk in the room is small in the room is a mess the first thing they notice is a blood
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soaked bed sheet lying on the floor and a blood soaked mattress as well there was a good amount of blood on two of the
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walls in in this small room they walk into the restroom and they lying in the bathtub positioned as though he is
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looking in the direction of the doorway is the nude dissected body of 38-year-old Robin
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green Robin is lying on his back inside of this old clawfoot bathtub Robin's mouth was wide open and
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one of his eyes was missing the other had been stabbed or punctured his head decapitated but placed neatly back onto
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the body the chest had several deep stab wounds and a figure eight pattern was carved into the chest area as well there
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was also a long cut running from the neck area straight down the center of the chest this wound was a big one and
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was open and exposing an empty abdomen the organs had been removed the arms had been cut
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clean through cut just below the elbows the legs too cut clean all the way through just below the knees the body
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was saw in half at the waist all in all the victim is now in eight pieces put back together inside the
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all and cheers of big cheers to every one of our great veterans all right so we have a situation where we have guy
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that's in from out of town and he's snooping around on a movie set and he's looking for something of value yeah he's
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he's straight up looking to steal something right so he gets some jewelry goes to a local bar thinks hey this is
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worth something I'm going to ask $15 right doesn't get that but strikes up a conversation this guy now they're
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drinking together possibly doing drugs together decide to go back to the guy's room that's living in town seems like
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he's living in this hotel room 309 correct sex happens and it seems like murder happens and then the next day
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tier Hughes which was renting the room room 309 goes to correction facility and tells them hey I think I
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murdered this guy they send police officers there again we don't know how intoxicated he is or or what his state
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is at this point but as police officers you're probably thinking is this you know they they hear crazy stories all
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the time is this guy for real you know we have to check this out now can you imagine what they're feeling as they're
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escorting this individual back to his hotel room and once they open the door you have to start thinking well at least
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that part of the story is correct and and and that part of the story is truthful that he's at least staying
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there yeah I mean there's a lot of issues with this portion of the story and one that's why we said early on this
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might be the closest version to the truth in short form regarding the timeline right that we're going to get
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and the reason being is we have two key players in this timeline unfortunately only one of them is still alive and
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appears to be very guilty of some heinous horrible acts right and they're the ones that are providing us with the
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timeline so as said as you said we don't know the State of Mind of Sydney tuse or
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how in toxicated or screwed up effed up he could be from drugs or alcohol or both or whatever right at the moment
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that he's telling the police about this we also don't know what his state was leading up to this and and during the
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course of the murder of this man and then the really what he's doing here what has been
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done is somebody creates this it's it's sickening to say it this way it's almost horror artwork by Design I mean
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it truly that's what it is we have a victim here that was killed mutilated and then
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displayed displayed for somebody to see this and as said these are veteran police officers in Winnipeg Winnipeg is
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not look shout out to our Canadian brothers and sisters but anybody up in Canada will tell you Winnipeg is not the
00:29:08
nicest city in the world it's it's it's nice but it I believe it's the murder capital of Canada so these officers have
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seen a lot in their days what they have not seen is this they've never seen anything like this before I don't know
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that many many people have [ __ ] I don't know that anybody has yeah and I think like you
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said I mean it's it's very odd it's almost a piece of artwork in in a sense and and I don't mean that in a
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disrespectful way but you have an individual that was cut up in eight pieces and almost put back together and
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like you said is uh positioned in a way that they're looking at the door but the
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head is severed so at some point they have to start moving the body to realize that these parts are severed and what I
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find very interesting is that you have a situation where the body is in eight pieces that there's a figure eight
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almost like maybe those are connected in some way mhm uh it's it's very strange and and and very
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um horrifying yeah and I I hate to use the word artwork because that that certainly holds no meaning here but
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anybody that's seen the the TV series Hannibal will understand I mean that's what they were trying to depict in that
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dramatization of fictional crimes this is something that happened in real life right and then you also have a situation
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like I said we we have this individual confessing to this crime I mean he basically you know you know explains to
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him how you did it well how did you do it with this knife and then they find the knife and and so you you almost have
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the confession there but he's also stating that he you know they blacked out or passed out and
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as far as like my knowledge goes like I have friends that will drink certain things or maybe take certain things that
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will cause them to black out and be in a blackout State I have only been in one blackout State and you are actually with
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me uh on Carnival Cruise when I called a bingo on the 311 Cruise MH uh there was
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a bunch of pictures with me with some somewhat famous people that people started sending to me when we got back
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from the cruise and I was like oh that's a funny Photoshop picture and they're like no no you actually met that person
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and I took your picture and I I have no memory of that at all but as far as I know that's the only time in my life
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that I've ever been in this quote quot quote blacked out phase where I'm actually walking around and talking to
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people and and acting like I exist in this world in reality I don't remember any of that yeah and that's the weird
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thing about tier hu's if you want to call that a confession when he's reporting this
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crime you're almost getting two stories immediately where he's saying I blacked out I don't remember the murder but but
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when asked questions how did you kill him well I I chopped him up I used a knife the knife is on the bathroom floor
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I guess those are all things he could have learned from just walking into the bathroom that morning and finding the
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body that he left there the day before well and you said there was no air conditioning and I heard that when tius
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went into the bathroom and saw this scene that he actually got sick mhm and threw up in the toilet
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so uh yeah it's just it's crazy and then it's crazy to think that this person would be in a blacked out State and be
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able to do all that and again chop up the body and put it back together and then display it in
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such a way after seeing this incredibly horrifying scene the officers went back into the hallway and this is when they
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formally arrest Sydney tier huse they put tier huse in handcuffs the officers these are as said seasoned veterans
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and that doesn't matter they are rattled very badly by the sight of this body in
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eight pieces then reassembled put on display the cause of death was multiple stab wounds and there in room 309 the
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crime scene texts when they're going through this whole scene they find Susan Sarandon's stolen jewelry that was
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reported as stolen the day before right now one of the key players in this case is going to be a man that most of you
00:34:01
listening may know we have discussed him on this show several times in fact he was a guest on the show back when we
00:34:08
covered the Luca magnata case in episodes 122 and 123 AKA puka notada and of course we are talking about Dan
00:34:19
zupansky you know Captain sometimes things happen for a reason sometimes things in life really just kind of
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happened because they I feel like they're supposed to right when Dan zupansky became involved in this case in
00:34:35
Sydney tier huse's case in a way the case almost chose him Dan was keeping an eye on this case in
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particular and for good reason he was involved with an organization called the Pees for
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justice Dan was clipping news articles about the tier hu case early on the papers were calling tier Hugh the hotel
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room killer and there were headlines such as I'm not a monster I am not Jeffrey dmer the people's for justice is
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basically an organization that is probably fighting and lobbying for a lot of things uh Victim Advocacy type things
00:35:20
but one thing that they are truly fighting for is stiffer penalties and sentences for
00:35:28
murderers the general problem here is that murderers do not receive a lengthy enough of a
00:35:36
sentence and most of what would be determined to be first-degree murder in our country most of these types of
00:35:44
crimes get reduced to simple manslaughter charges in Canada resulting in the offender receiving a shorter
00:35:53
sentence for taking someone's life Dan has has been corresponding with a man who he went to
00:36:01
high school with the man was housed at the remand Center waiting for a court date one day this man his name is Dawn
00:36:10
he tells Dan guess who I'm I am being housed with I'm being housed with the hotel room killer Sydney t huse one of
00:36:19
just many strange and bizarre things about tier huse in this case zupansky said tier huse
00:36:27
facing murder charges waiting for a court dat in this situation would have been strongly advised to not discuss the
00:36:35
case with anyone especially the media tier huso seemed to enjoy the attention and he was granting interviews almost
00:36:46
immediately after his arrest Dan asked Dawn if he could work to build some type of rapport with tier Hugh get tier
00:36:55
Hughes to believe that they may even be friends and see if he could get tier Hughes to talk with
00:37:02
Dan Dan at the time had a radio show called off the cuff it was an interview Style Show covering all kinds of topics
00:37:10
well in this case has to be huge on a couple levels one the gruesome nature of the crime but two the connection with
00:37:19
this big movie star in this big movie Set yes it is it would have been bigger news news and this is coming from
00:37:28
several Canadians perspectives this would have been bigger news had it occurred in a city like Toronto or
00:37:36
Vancouver right but not so sedy well yeah and the thing is to put it in its simplest form the way it's been
00:37:43
explained to me is unless a crime or a murder happens in one of those two cities it's just not well covered
00:37:51
through the media it doesn't get the amount of media attention that it would Garder and those other
00:37:57
those bigger cities right the simplest introduction from dawn to get tier huse to talk with Dan zupansky would just be
00:38:08
to see if tier huse would like to be a possible guest on Dan's radio show this is the tactic that they're going to use
00:38:15
because they already know at this point that tier Hugh seems to be enjoying these interviews and is more than
00:38:22
willing to talk with the media well right and when he's talking to the media I think he's also trying to get more
00:38:28
attention by making statements like I'm not a monster yes this act that I did was monsterous but I'm not a monster I'm
00:38:36
not Jeffrey dmer and and when you in a crime case you mention the word or the name Jeffrey dmer that's going to get
00:38:46
more attention well when this gets set up Don does get tier Hughes to agree to talk with Dan zupansky this leads to Dan
00:38:57
corresponding with tier huse and then taking a meeting with him Sydney tuse his defense and believe it or not it's a
00:39:07
viable one in Canada in 2003 2004 and so on at the time his defense basically is
00:39:15
yes he did Kill Robin green but it was not premeditated murder because tier huse had been using drugs and was
00:39:23
intoxicated he didn't remember the act at self and he eventually turned himself in W this making a strong argument for a
00:39:33
charge of manslaughter not murder right strong AR argument there not not here that wouldn't work here this would come
00:39:42
with a pretty light sentence if someone like tuse can get this horrible murder reduced to just a manslaughter
00:39:50
charge and this in particular is what Dan zupansky and his friends with that organization peoples for justice one of
00:40:00
the things that they were fighting for one of this is one of their big ticket items that they're fighting for so a
00:40:06
maximum penalty for what we what the United States would call first-degree murder the planned targeted Act of
00:40:14
homicide in Canada the maximum one could receive there is no death penalty the harshest punishment is life in prison
00:40:22
with possible parole at 25 years wow yeah we I mean some of our states have the death penalty it's like honey
00:40:32
we're going to take a vacation to Canada and others that don't at least have life
00:40:38
in prison without the possibility of parole that's not even an option this is life in pison in prison with parole at
00:40:47
25 years meaning you're going to get a parole hearing yeah that's I mean that's ridiculous I mean and there's multiple
00:40:56
crimes here like here we do a thing where you go okay well it's premeditated so it's first deegree murder but then
00:41:03
also you have the mutilation of of the corpse add charges to that so possible parole after 25 years
00:41:13
this is the strictest punishment one could be handed at the time in Canada and that's across the board that's from
00:41:22
sea to shining sea the Canadian Federal government's Bill c53 life means life act would change
00:41:31
this by making life imprisonment without parole a mandatory sentence for heinous
00:41:37
murders such as planned and deliberate murders of police officers or planned and deliberate murders while the accused
00:41:45
is committing sexual assault hostage taking or terrorism right so they could be charged with first-degree murder with
00:41:53
no possibility of perole the adjustment to that basically would be the lifers could eventually apply after 35 years to
00:42:03
the federal cabinet for executive release this bill c-53 would be a good step in the right direction I know there
00:42:12
was a lot going on with attempting to make this life means life act active last year I was you know not living in
00:42:21
Canada I was unable to confirm if in fact it is up and running by this time it doesn't actually appear
00:42:28
to be so though so first we have the issue of some monsters like tier huse getting paroled after 25 years that
00:42:37
sounds bad enough right but it doesn't stop there when going to court we are going to have a few other
00:42:46
very threatening options that could play out here first off if his defense can prove that tier huse was drunk High
00:42:55
messed up basically out of his element right blacked out well then this would play to a reduction of what would be a
00:43:04
murder charge to a much lesser charge of just manslaughter also of course reducing the sentence to top all of that
00:43:11
off they have something called double time and I believe that's the proper term for it that's the term that would
00:43:19
make sense right okay so double time served for jail time while waiting for your trial plus they have concurrent
00:43:28
sentences instead of consecutive meaning if you're going to get 25 years for killing one person well then if you
00:43:36
killed three people you would get 25 years for each of those three people you killed for a total of 75 years right but
00:43:44
because you have concurrent sentences you can serve out all of those sentences at the same time so truly only really
00:43:53
spending 25 years in prison that is horseshit so basically it doesn't matter if I kill one person or
00:44:00
two people you'd think like you know as far as like serial killers go you're let's say you killed five people and
00:44:06
then you go well okay so we're going to have you um charged and these were all premeditated so you get first-degree
00:44:16
murder so each one carries a 25-year sentence but you can serve all those sentences at the same
00:44:23
time the best example that I could offer up on the fly right here would be Robert
00:44:29
Pickton so Robert Pickton is a Canadian who is convicted of six murders I believe it's six murders he's suspected
00:44:36
of many more right convicted of multiple murders receives 25 years for each one of those murders he's only going to have
00:44:45
to serve 25 years total he doesn't get you know he's we're not tacking all these together and and doing them
00:44:52
consecutively which should be 150 years right and and thank God he'd be dead by then but he's a real ass hat well
00:45:01
there's a lot of names you could call that uh individual that very very good boner face ass hat is what I'd call so
00:45:11
we talked about the state of the body when they found it first off without getting too too graphic I think we're
00:45:19
already past that well here's the other I'm trying to go through the whole idea of is tier huse lying about the fact
00:45:28
that he was that he was drunk and drugged up and out of his element right well we know he's at the bar drinking we
00:45:35
do know that and we could spend a good amount of time going through what has been reported that he was drinking or
00:45:42
taking that day but to be honest with you and we played that clip there it's really all over the shop right the
00:45:50
different reports state that he took or smoked or ingested different things so I
00:45:55
don't think that that key here to really try to analyze if in fact we believe he
00:45:59
was messed up not from that angle we can do it on the opposite angle and again without trying to get too too graphic
00:46:06
but of course it will have to be somewhat so think about the amount of time just for a second just stop and
00:46:13
think about the amount of time it would take to do all of that to a body right so just how out of it could this Hotel
00:46:26
monster B at the time well also what we have in the states I don't know if it's different in Canada but
00:46:33
premeditation you know when you hear that clip from the lawyer it's like premeditation to them almost seems like
00:46:39
he had to plan this when he met him at the bar oh I see you came into the bar now I met you now I'm planning this all
00:46:47
out in my head where we have kind of uh determined in the United States that premeditation could be you're in an
00:46:56
argument with somebody heated and decide well I'm going to go out to my car and get a gun and and within that small
00:47:03
window of time you have now you know basically created a plan meaning there was premeditation correct am I correct in
00:47:13
this no you're spot on I mean there are situations where within seconds we determine that pre it it's a
00:47:22
premeditated murder right and I think unless you can prove I think it would be more on the def on the defense
00:47:29
to prove that this monster you know this boner face is was in a state of you know being blacked out or a drug
00:47:41
induced um psychosis state or something like that but think about the cuts too not
00:47:48
just all of the time that it would take to do that to a body the the cuts themselves this is not not easy to do
00:47:58
not only is it a lengthy amount of time it's not an easy task to do this would take some level of skill T huse was a
00:48:06
chef for a long time that would help but this would take a lot of time and some skill to perform this act if tier huse
00:48:15
was truly as out of it as he claims to have been this would have been even sloppier and the labor involved a
00:48:24
drunken High man would have gave up at some point before doing so much postmortem mutilation to the body right
00:48:34
I I think the premeditation there's not only just premeditation on the murder but I think there was premeditation on
00:48:41
how I'm going to eventually get out of this you know and what what's my excuse going to be also I don't think that we
00:48:49
have said this but all of the organs were removed these were never never recovered
00:48:57
so that in itself is some evidence that a portion of this story is missing from this narrative that Sydney tier huse is
00:49:07
putting forth about the actual murder yeah and I don't mean to be more gruesome than we already are but
00:49:16
you know I would do a little bit of you know Furniture rehab or or you know take
00:49:23
a old piece of furniture and and and redo it repaint it or whatever and just you take like a a simple dining room
00:49:32
table to saw the leg there had to be individuals in this hotel that he's renting these rooms that
00:49:40
heard these noises happening that heard something and that would give us a little bit more
00:49:47
of a timeline because like you said I mean just the dissection of the body I think there Pro probably be ways to
00:49:56
prove that it took over an hour and and when did that go towards the evidence that this was all
00:50:04
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