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around grab a chair grab a beer let's talk some true [Music] crime [Music] my name is Brandon Woodruff I'm 31 years
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old I was arrested for capital murder in the deaths of my parents Norman Dennis Woodruff and I did not commit this crime
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I'm innocent and I really hope that people that are watching this if you will just know anything at all I hope
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that you'll know that I did not kill my parents parents I would never even hurt them they were really really good people
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to me they raised me well they loved me unconditionally no matter what they always would um be there for me they had
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they had a love for me and my sister and our whole family of an unconditional love no matter what it was I got a
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grandmother that really loves me she's behind me I just want all of y'all to know that I did not kill my parents I
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just want y'all to know that my parents were very very good people they were very very well liked they did not
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deserve what happened to them they did not deserve to be taken away from me to be taken away from my
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sister to be taken away from our family they should still be here to this day and the real people that really did this
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should be in prisoned and not me I really think the investigators should really look at this case I think that
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they should re-evaluate it and look at possible other people because right now they're getting away with with what
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they've done I would just want to thank everybody watching I want to thank any help that I could get further my cause
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to prove my innocence I really really really hope one day to be able to get to hug my grandmother to be with my family
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where I should be I really hope that justice prevails [Music] the state of Texas says Brandon Dale
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Woodruff murdered his parents Dennis and Norma Woodruff inside their home in Roy
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City Texas on or about October 16th 2015 both Dennis and Norma died as a result of gunshot wounds and multiple
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stack wounds the murders were brutal and the crime scene of course not a pretty one but before we get into the
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investigation let's give some very necessary background information Dennis and Norma were high school sweethearts
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they both grew up in Tex Arana that's on the Texas Arkansas border the two married about a year after they
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graduated from high school this was way back in 1982 so they were married for over 20
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years before their death and they were described by others as best friends and very
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ly both went on to earn a degree from Southern Arkansas University Dennis in electrical engineering and Norma in
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accounting after college they moved out to the lake hubard area just about 25 mil Northeast of Dallas Texas where the
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two both got good jobs putting their schooling to work and they started a family their firstborn was a daughter
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Charla Annette Woodruff born in August of 1985 and then a son Brandon Dale Woodruff in September of
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1986 Dennis lovingly most times simply referred to the children as the girl or the boy in the mid90s the Woodruff
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family stayed in the same area but purchased and moved into a nice ranch style three-bedroom brick home sitting
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on a little more than 2 acres of land they had a decent sized out building that they called the barn I think it
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looks a little more like an unattached garage it seems like a fair statement to say that a sibling rivalry developed at
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a fairly young age and later when questioned by police Charla and Brandon would give differing opinions of what
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they thought of each other and their relationship as big sister and slightly younger brother Brandon's sounds a
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little more polite and seems to take the Live and Let Live approach where on the
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other hand it seems like Charla had some um some disagreements and some grudges held against her brother their mother
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Norma was the outdoorsy type she grew up on a ranch and did the ranch type things
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which meant raising animals working the land and getting her hands dirty Dennis seemed to prefer indoor activities both
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Charla and Brandon were involved with 4 and Future Farmers of America and well let's face it it's not just the kids
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when you're talking about something so involved as 4 and FFA it's really the whole family that is involved but
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Brandon really seemed to have a natural ability and talent for raising and taking care of animals and yes Captain
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they were equestrians or as we like to call it here in the garage they are horsee so when it came to horses or
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animals in general many have said Brandon has a gift for working with animals as Brandon got older he became a
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cowboy always outside riding horses beb or out on the barn working when he was about 16 he got a job at a local Feed
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Store where he was not only very hardworking but also also very well-liked at high school he ran with a
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group of kids that were referred to as the [ __ ] kickers other dudes that were involved in 4 Future Farmers of America
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raising livestock and dressing like Cowboys yeah better to be called the [ __ ] kickers than the [ __ ] lickers the
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guys he hung around with the most were Mike Etherington Joe Hagman and Dusty Perry who mostly went by the nickname of
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Perry it seems like Brandon's parents didn't care for Mike as there were some local rumors that he was someone that
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was kind of up to no good but never really caught for anything Brandon was outgoing both he and Charla were
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attention Seekers and Brandon at times could be a bit of a showoff his senior year he was voted by his classmates as
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the student with the most school spirit now we mentioned the differences in opinion between Charla and Brandon
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regarding their sister brother relationship ship but there was also a very difference in opinions with the
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relationship each had with their parents Charla says she had a lot of problems with her parents growing up and that her
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father Dennis had a real bad temper and sometimes discipline bordered on almost abuse right Brandon says yes they were
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disciplined like most children would be but that Not only was Charla's description not his experience he said
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says Charla is a drama queen and dramatically overstating the family situation if there was trouble in the
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home growing up it may have stemmed from Charla there is an incident when the parents called police because she
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physically attacked her father and it sounds like she was quite physical with Brandon at times as well friends of
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Dennis and Norma called Charla a problem child now I do want to point something out here and I'm not super clear on the
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details of this and I don't think that they are necessary but Charla was abused when she was young the abuse did not
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come from Mom or Dad it was sexual abuse so drama queen or Problem Child whatever
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these labels mean right keep in mind that she was a victim and there's a great deal of trauma involved and often
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with sex abuse especially at a young age there's a lot of confusion and that has
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to be even more difficult to deal with all of that as you're becoming a woman well just the punishment from your
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father maybe the son is able to take the punishment a little bit more maybe she was not going to stand for that so when
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they go well she was violent with the father I'd like to know what context that was in because if he was trying to
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discipline her would she really be violent towards him or would she really just def defending herself Charla
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attempted suicide in her teen years uh this incident involved a gun now thank God the gun did not go off for whatever
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reason now for Texas folk the Woodruff were not much for guns and it looks like at the time of the young lady's suicide
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attempt that there was only one gun owned by the family and immediately after this event and very intelligently
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of this good man and father Dennis gets rid of the gun you can't have that situation in the house when it's putting
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people in harm right so the wood Ruffs had some money troubles and so did Brandon as an adult
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and it's important as we will see this is the reason that Brandon's parents were in the process of moving during the
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time when the double homicide was committed Brandon was in his first semester of college he is attending
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abalene Christian University or ACU for short and ACU is not cheap and the school itself has quite strict rules as
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well Brandon is supposed to like even let's say they don't have class on the weekend right classes Monday through
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Friday if he is going to leave campus he has to have have his parents call in and
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get a approved dismissal from campus so it's not like a normal campus where you can
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just come and go as you please yeah a lot of the colleges as you know Captain they don't even care if you show up to
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the classes as long as you pay nobody really cares what's going on here they had very strict rules as to curfew and
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things that you typically may not see on most college campuses because of this look most kids
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when they're 18 19 pretty irresponsible and when you first get out on your own away from Mom and Dad you might be
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exploring who you are or out partying a little too much Brandon was missing and failing a lot of his classes now Brandon
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nobody argues this he is a smart guy so it's not an intelligence thing I think it's more likely that it's a lack of
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maturity on Brandon's part yeah or lack of effort right he's failing and dropping class
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because he's choosing not to attend these classes MH he's often leaving whether it be excused approved or not
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for the weekend and there's a there's a club that he likes to go to that is all ages it's like 18 and up so I guess not
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all ages but 18 and up on Sunday nights and on Wednesdays he and his friends are
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typically going to this club late on Sunday nights party until the we hours of the
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morning and he's therefore missing a lot of his Monday classes and he's getting in trouble for not being on campus the
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way that this works Captain is after he misses several classes they drop him from the class right and he's probably
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not telling his parents CU then his parents would expect him to come home but he wants to go out and party with
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his friends and when we say party the word party has a weird you know definition depending on on who you ask
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part a right yeah the captain and the colonel usually that means probably a good not just hanging out with friends
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but a good amount of drinking going on drugs yeah whatever hookers not so much but anyway the the story here is that
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Brandon does not seem to be much of a drinker and he's definitely not into drugs so when we say party he's out
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dancing and that sort of thing so is it because he's going out partying I mean he's not spending money on boo so you
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said he had money troubles yeah I don't know an 18 or 19 year old that doesn't but right I'll
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give you the skinny of it so what they or whomever is calling money troubles this is what I could find in September
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of 2005 Brandon got a city card with a limit of $2,500 on the card he maxed it out in
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one week then later that same month he got a Capital One card with a $1,000 limit and
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maxed it out in less than two weeks okay question for what's in your wallet do we
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have context for any of this because I think my first credit card was $1,500 and it was maxed out the first
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day I used it but I was buying school books yeah these were not school books that were purchased it looks to me like
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a lot of this was was clothing electronics and um restaurants he was known to be fairly generous with his
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friends often offering to pay well it's pretty easy to be generous when it's not
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your money right and that that's where I think some of this stems from it's you know it's nice to be generous but he's
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really just being frivolous with the with these uh credit cards again abalene Christian University is expensive it's
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not cheap how's he going there well he has some help from his parents he has a $500 scholarship that he earned from
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4H and he has $7,500 in student loans he gets a $1,300 tuition refund this is because he's missing the
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classes so they dropped him from those classes they're nice enough to say all right we're going to refund some of your
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money since you're not taking those classes anymore again this was $1,300 he spent
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all300 of that cash rather than giving it to his parents and it seems that this caused some kind of feud between him and
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his father Dennis so that that's where I would go and say okay that's money trouble to me
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then the weird thing about the scholarship and this is something that we should note is that the $500 4
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scholarship seemed to cause a bit of a feud between Norma his mother Brandon's mother and Norma
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Etherington the mother of Mike Errington who was once Brandon's friend I don't know the details of why there was this
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feud between the two of them over this $500 scholarship maybe Mrs Errington thought her son was supposed to be
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getting it or deserved it more than Brandon I don't know but that is what has been reported now Dennis and Norma
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Woodruff they had money troubles of their own now they made pretty good money together they made about
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$125,000 a year but they had $300,000 in credit card debt so they sought the help of a credit counselor
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and September of 2005 Dennis and Norma bought a doublewide manufactured home at 5545 County Road 2648 in Roy City
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Texas this was at the advice of their credit counselor and this makes a lot of financial sense because their home where
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they were currently living before making this purchase was in Heath Texas and they were spending about $1,400 a month
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plus the property tax for that home the double wide was was only $500 a month plus the property taxes as well but
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given the area of the double wide the property tax was much much less there than in Heath taxes but as far as the
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credit card debt goes his parents have tons of credit card debth it's not maybe something that they sat down and taught
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him how to be bad with credit cards but it's something that he obviously saw his
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parents do and so that's probably another reason why it wasn't that big of a deal to
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him yeah this is something he may or may not have known anything about I find growing up my own personal experience
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has been when I got to be like in my 30s I have friends complain my man my parents are way in debt and you had no
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idea growing up right you just think that everybody's parents makes really they make good money and they make good
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spending decisions it sounds like with their spending with Dennis and Norma what most of the friends and family say
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is they were all about being good parents and trying to give their kids whatever the kids needed or wanted and
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so it's generally thought that they spent a lot of this money on their children raising them and this is credit
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card debt too it's a slippery slope man like you start getting a little bit behind or you get high interest and that
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debt really starts to pile up very very quickly and then at some point it's like you don't want to even pay for it
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cuz you know you're not even paying for that item anymore you're just paying for
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interest so this double wide is going to save them quite a bit of money every single month so it's a very smart move
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financially but it's also not like a penalty it you know they're not being they're not putting themselves in
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financial jail here Norma was kind of looking forward Ward to this move because the property at the new place
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would be on 5 acres of land and plus they own horses and they're boarded somewhere else so by having this extra
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land they they'll be able to board their own horses which should save them quite
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a bit of money yes so this this whole move and everything makes a lot of sense now we did fail to set up one very
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important thing in this case maybe it's important maybe it's not to me but for the storytelling purposes there are a
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lot of people that will tell you that Brandon was convicted simply because he is a gay man he lived most of his life
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up until sometime in high school where he was not openly gay he had girlfriends he hung out with these [ __ ] kicker guys
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he was referred to as a cowboy well when he starts to change his lifestyle a little bit or realize who he
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is the [ __ ] kicker buddies don't take too kindly to Brandon's new lifestyle and we'll get more into this
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as we go but it's important to know that from now on and now that he's in college
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we kind of have two things going on here Captain some will say that Brandon was leaving that Brandon was living too
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lives that one was this secret gay life where from what I could see yeah it appears that he had two sets of friends
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and that he was doing two sets of activities that were different from one another but I don't know that I would
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say so much that he had a secret life right it actually appears to me that he's in the process of coming out and
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he's kind of doing it casually and maybe slowly he's still still a very young man
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probably still figuring out who he is and what he wants out of his life Brandon is though weird about the
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new house I did find this to be quite strange this was something that he had stated he didn't like the location of
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the new house and he didn't like the double wide house itself he is on record having told family and friends that he
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would never spend a single night in that house he wasn't planning on ever living
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there in fact he would never spend a single night in the new place at the time of the homicide here
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Captain the Woodruff still have both properties they have the new property that they recently purchased and they
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have their home their old home in Heath they are moving from one house to the other the Woodruff are the Woodruff
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are staying the night at the new house night after night slowly moving in they're plan is once they're out of the
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house in Heath that they will either sell it or rent it out oh and maybe he just felt bad for his parents and
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thought it was a little bit of a downgrade from what they were used to I think that he thought that it was
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Hillbilly is that it was a double wide in what he referred to as hickville out in the middle of nowhere mhm and he's
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now becoming more of this big city kid he's spending his weekends in Dallas out clubbing with this other set of friends
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the thing that we have to keep in mind and one thing that is very important to this case is knowing that they still
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have both of these properties they're in the process of moving yet they are staying in the new place now Brandon is
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helping them from time to time when he's not away at College he will help them move things from the heath house to the
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new house but when he is helping Mom and Dad he is often crashing and sleeping at
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the heath house they still have some animals there he's helping to take care of them as well but this is really a
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slow moving process of filling up Norma's truck or Brandon's truck and one load at a time moving to the new home we
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also have to keep in mind too both of their children Charla and Brandon are both off to college at this point so
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they're kind of downsizing their empty nesters for the first time in their [Music]
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Booty a little bit well we went through a lot of the events that were going on in August and September of
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2005 on Tuesday October 18th 2005 at about 400 p.m. and Norma Woodruff they would be found dead having been murdered
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inside their home in Roy City Texas let's go through the events that lead up to that horrific Discovery to see who
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might be responsible for the double homicide or the very least who should be on the suspect list right on the weekend
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of Friday October 14th Brandon will be on an approved leave from from the ACU campus for the entirety of the weekend
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this is his father Dennis called in said hey my son wants to come home for the weekend and the college approved this
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leave he will need to be back in time for whatever classes he may have scheduled for Monday Brandon drives an
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older Dodge pickup truck and this detail is quite important to the case as well on this Friday Brandon gives a to a
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fellow student that he does not know very well his name is Robert Robert is going to Denton for the weekend this is
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a suburb of Dallas so not entirely out of the way for Brandon Brandon dropped Robert off at his girlfriend's place in
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Denton on Friday night fairly late the deal was Brandon would pick Robert up at this same location on Sunday evening and
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then the two of them would go back to ACU to the campus Brandon spent most of Saturday helping out a longtime friend
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her name is Morgan Lee Morgan Lee it said was Brandon's one-time girlfriend the two stayed very good
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friends after the relationship was over that night he hung out until the we hours of the morning with some of his
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Club friends again we are on Saturday Sunday Brandon wakes up he is at the heath house remember he said he won't
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stay at the new place right now even though he won't stay the night at his parents new place he does go over there
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and he helps with things like unpacking and getting the new place all set up a little after 6:00
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p.m. Dennis Woodruff picked up a pizza for the three of them for dinner that Sunday night this is brand Brandon and
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his parents Dennis and Norma they're going to have dinner at the new place after dinner Brandon left the new
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house and drove his Dodge truck to the horse stables to drop off some medication for one of Norma's horses he
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then drove to the family's Heath house and that was because he says he has permission to drive his mother's truck
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okay the parents have three vehicles I have a description of two of them one of them is a big fancy newer
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Silverado Chevy truck it's got leather interior it sounds like it's fully loaded they also have a Toyota Camry and
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then the Third vehicle I do not have a description for but two of the vehicles are at the new house and this big fancy
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nice Silverado is at the old Heath house his Dodge truck is not in great working order it's an
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older truck with a lot of miles like 140 or 150,000 miles on it because he's been having some trouble
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with the vehicle with his vehicle he says he was given permission by his parents to drive out to the heath house
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take care of the animals there leave his truck and take the nice Silverado back to the college campus and keep it for a
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few days while his father Dennis figured out what is wrong with his Dodge truck so Brandon is on his way to drop off the
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medication to the horses and I'm assuming here captain that this next event takes place after that medication
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is dropped off so at 7:36 p.m. Brandon calls his mother this is according to phone
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records there was some a message that he needed to relay regarding her horse or or one of her horses that's why I'm
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assuming that this is after he dropped off the medication for the horse to the stable yeah from there Brandon has about
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a 30 minute drive to the heath house I've seen this listed as short as 23 minutes and as long as 30 minutes the
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problem for Brandon will become that his timeline does not match up with some of the other
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people's statements in regards to his timeline meaning that there's some minutes and maybe hours that he is
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unaccounted for to give him the benefit of the doubt I am going to use the longer time frames that are listed for
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all of these events okay so we will say we'll go with the longest one that has been stated that it's about a 30 minute
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drive from the the stable to the heath house where he has the family's animals to take care of it's also been stated
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that they estimated that this task of taking care of the animals feeding them letting them out and such at the heath
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house would require about a half an hour to take care of all of these animals we don't know what time Brandon
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left the heath house in the Silverado that's always been in question and that in part is why Brandon is sitting in a
00:36:31
prison cell today right now remember Robert the schoolmate that Brandon was scheduled to pick up on that Sunday M
00:36:41
Brandon spoke with Robert around 6:00 saying that he would pick him up in a few hours the weird thing here Captain
00:36:49
is Brandon's already late it sounds like according to Robert that they had originally scheduled
00:36:57
Brandon to pick him up between five and six that day so we're already running late on picking up Robert right but he's
00:37:05
doing some errands for his parents so that makes sense yeah he may not have known that he needed to do all of these
00:37:11
tasks and then to top that off look Brandon loves this Silverado truck it's fully loaded it's a million times nicer
00:37:21
than his yeah he very likely did not know that his parents would be generous enough to let him borrow it for a couple
00:37:28
days while his truck that doesn't run so good would be out of commission one it's
00:37:32
a good reason to be a little late oh if I'm a little late I get a way better vehicle for the next week I'll take that
00:37:39
trade any day and again the Silverado is at the old house so there's no getting that vehicle without going to the old
00:37:45
house so you're you're right there lock step with me my friend where we can we can see the reasoning for him being late
00:37:53
at this time Rob Rob Bert calls Brandon around well not around I have the exact time
00:38:01
9:49 p.m. this is because Brandon was still not there yet to pick him up Brandon asked if Robert could catch a
00:38:10
ride and meet him at the Denny's this is not to get anything to eat it's just meet me in the parking lot
00:38:17
at the Denny's it's about a halfway point from where you are Robert and where I am we're already running late
00:38:24
this is going to save us some time around 11:00 11:00 p.m. Brandon is at the Denny's this is at
00:38:32
9009 skilman Road in North Texas again he's running late he's been running late all day long and now he's even later
00:38:40
than expected Robert says all right I met you at the Denny's but you were still late getting here what's the
00:38:47
problem Brandon says I'm late because I got lost that's as much detail as we have of of an explanation as to where
00:38:57
Brandon was right before going back to the college campus Brandon and now Robert who's riding
00:39:07
shotgun Brandon decides hey I want to go out this is Sunday night I go to these clubs that are all ages or 18 and up and
00:39:16
I have my group of friends that I go with Robert do you want to go out and go clubbing before we go back to the
00:39:22
college campus Robert agrees to do this and so now they going to go to a guy named Alex's place and he is in Plano
00:39:31
Texas and from there a group of guys including robbert and Brandon will go clubbing and they leave for the clubs a
00:39:38
touch after midnight according to everyone and they're back at campus by Monday morning Monday was a pretty typical day
00:39:46
for Brandon he hung out with his friends at College went to lunch with several of
00:39:52
them this is followed by Tuesday which again was typical both of these days normal days with the exception of a few
00:40:00
things one Brandon's sister Charla called him and said that she had been unable to get in touch with their
00:40:07
parents she is away at College as well she's a junior at Southern Arkansas University roughly a 3-hour drive from
00:40:15
the Royce city house she lives on campus in an apartment with some roommates she's in a sorority she's working a
00:40:22
part-time job busy girl and she's Got A Horse of Her Own that is boarded nearby her campus living situation mhm she's
00:40:33
calling and saying look I speak with our parents daily while away at school and I
00:40:39
haven't been able to get a hold of them this is on Monday Brandon tells her I'm supposed to have a call with
00:40:48
them sometime tonight so she's calling Brandon Monday evening been trying to get a hold of mom and dad since 11:00
00:40:56
p.m. the night before Sunday night right which is odd right she says it's even more odd because I not only do I speak
00:41:05
with them daily but this was a scheduled phone call right but you but we know that
00:41:11
they're moving and they're doing some stuff and at some point they have to get their horses moved so there is a lot on
00:41:17
the parents plate is it possible that they just fell asleep early not so weird that you can't get a hold of them during
00:41:23
the day because there'd be two different locations they could be at or obviously
00:41:29
work but come that second day you're going okay something's up here MH yeah and there's going to be some phone calls
00:41:37
that were made by the wood Ruffs and I mean the parents Norma and Dennis on Sunday night that will help us really
00:41:45
kind of hone in on what time frame we should be really looking at here but this scheduled call that was to be at
00:41:55
11:00 p.m. on Sunday the way that this works Captain is Charla was away visiting extended family on Sunday
00:42:05
evening she is at her grandmother's house this is Norma's mother her mom's mom while she's there and the
00:42:15
grandmother says this is right around 9900 p.m. she is on the phone with Norma with Charla's mom to which she says to
00:42:24
Charlotte would you like to speak to your mom I got her on the phone Charla says no I will call them
00:42:31
when I get home so that's the what I mean by the scheduled call of 11: p.m. that night
00:42:38
right Brandon tells Charla on Monday evening don't worry about not being able to get a hold of them as he is expecting
00:42:49
a phone call from Mom and Dad between 10:30 and 11:00 p.m. that night on Monday he says I'm sure it's nothing
00:42:58
I'll talk to them later tonight and after I get off the phone with Mom and Dad I'll give you a call so that way
00:43:04
Charla will know everything is all right she's just unable to get a hold of mom and dad for whatever reason right Charla
00:43:10
says that she never heard back from her brother that night he doesn't call her like he said he would that's suspicious
00:43:19
she says that she went out with some friends that Monday night and she does say that she kind of forgot about the
00:43:26
call from Brandon okay so it's possible that he called and she just didn't answer no I don't think that it is
00:43:32
because they've really track down a lot of the phone records or but what is he saying is he
00:43:39
saying he called and it's just not registered anywhere no it's I couldn't find it to
00:43:46
be registered anywhere I don't know that he said that he was going to call her those are Charla's words
00:43:53
right but she goes on to say she kind of forgot about the call but never heard from Brandon that night she goes out
00:44:00
with some friends again she's in college and she admits she went out and got pretty drunk that night when she gets
00:44:07
home that night she's now concerned she's like oh I still didn't hear from Mom and Dad and I didn't hear from
00:44:15
Brandon so a little buzzed or you know drunk as she put it she's kind of drunk dialing mom and dad at 2 or three in the
00:44:25
morning trying to get a hold of them she said she at this point didn't care if she woke them up or she didn't care that
00:44:32
she was drunk and they would probably know it you know from her calling it that that yeah I mean at that point who
00:44:39
cares and and your parents would understand like look I couldn't I couldn't get a hold of you I called my
00:44:43
brother he was going to try to get a hold of you I never heard from him I don't want to drive all the way out
00:44:48
there so I'm calling thanks for answering the phone go back to bed talk to you in the morning I couldn't get an
00:44:54
exact number here captain but it sounds like she called them three or four times
00:45:00
that night and sometime in the hours of 2:30 to 3 in the morning again no luck Mom and Dad don't
00:45:08
pick up the phone their phone system is something we should discuss as well because the way
00:45:14
that it sounds to me is that they have three numbers okay they each have a cell phone and the home the new house has a
00:45:22
telephone number as well from my understanding and they used a term for this and I failed to put it
00:45:29
in my notes but if you call let's say you call the house it will ring to all of their phones all right right or if
00:45:38
you call Mom it will ring to all of the phones and whoever picks up first yeah the ringings it's just call uh call
00:45:47
forwarding okay so that makes it even a little more strange Charla says and I'll
00:45:53
back her up on this I agree with her that it's diff she should have no problem getting a hold of mom and dad
00:45:59
with that type of phone setup and it sounds like the Woodruff had that mainly because they have two kids who knows
00:46:05
what they may need and when they may need it right so you're telling me that she tried to call them once when she was
00:46:12
drunk dialing like you say three or four times is Charla statement and I think there are some not that I think there
00:46:19
are phone records that back up that statement and she also called her brother and and he never got a hold of
00:46:25
them there right so now we're we're to Tuesday October 18th that morning Charla does not have
00:46:34
any classes scheduled so she's got the the day free she's going to spend a good deal of the morning trying to get a hold
00:46:41
of her parents she says that at some point around lunchtime she tries calling her
00:46:47
parents at their work this is when major fear sets in she learns that her parents who both had
00:46:55
good jobs and both were very professional people they were both absent from work a no-show at work both
00:47:03
missed work on Tuesday and both of them missed work on Monday as well and even more alarming neither of them notified
00:47:12
their employer that they would be absent Charla notifies her aunt of the situation now the aunt is Norma's sister
00:47:22
she's been trying to get a hold of Norma as well nobody can get a hold of these people yeah the aunt's name is Linda
00:47:29
Matthews and probably at this point you're probably thinking they should call well they should call a wellness
00:47:36
check with the police right so what we have going on here Captain is just that we have and
00:47:43
this is from some court documents so forgive me if it sounds a little legally uh Todd Williams told deputies
00:47:53
that on October 18th 2005 at approximately 3:15 in the afternoon he received a phone call from Linda
00:48:01
Matthews the sister of Norma Woodruff asking that he go by their residence and check the welfare of Norma Woodruff and
00:48:10
Dennis Woodruff Todd Williams stated that Linda Matthews had attempted to call her sister and never received an
00:48:17
answer when she called Todd Williams stated that he Todd Williams stated that Linda Matthews gave him normal
00:48:25
woodruff's address he asked his friend Ron Allan Merritt to travel to the house with him
00:48:34
he says that when they arrived at the house he found that all of the doors were secured and there was no answer at
00:48:42
the door when they knocked so Todd Williams calls Linda Matthews back and says hey all the doors and windows seem
00:48:49
to be secured there's Vehicles here I'm not getting an answer knocking on the door what do you want me to do she tells
00:48:58
them can you figure out a way to get inside the house he decides to get a chisel from
00:49:05
his truck and using the Chisel he pried the screen off of a window located on the north side of the residence near the
00:49:13
carport and then Pride open the window Todd Williams stated that he was able to gain entry into the residence and stated
00:49:22
that after gaining entry into said residence he walked through the kitchen and into the living room and found both
00:49:29
Norma Woodruff and Dennis Woodruff deceased he stated that he exited the residents and he called The Hunt County
00:49:39
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