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foreign we're keeping a close eye on a missing person's case in Dallas County Missouri
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33 year old Cassidy rainwater is missing she went to high school in Harrisonville
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her case is drawing a lot of attention on social media due to the circumstances investigative reporter Angie ricano has
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been tracking the developments and joins us from The Newsroom there is so much mystery and Intrigue in
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this case that has fueled social media speculation two men have been charged with kidnapping inflicting injury and
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terrorizing that's James Phelps and Timothy Norton the sheriff posted on Friday more charges are expected in the
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coming days we are watching for that the sheriff previously released a statement
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saying due to the extreme nature of the crime he's not providing details here's what we do know pictures have been found
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of Cassidy partially nude and in a cage the FBI has been involved Cassie rainwater is still missing her Trail led
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to this rural property owned by suspect James Phelps investigators have been searching the grounds while the men are
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in jail the Springfield bomb squad was called in and a fire broke out last week the house burned to the ground
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speculation is there was a tripwire and that's why the bomb squad was called in this case is all over social media
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videos are being made on Tick Tock Reddick has threads bloggers are speculating about cannibalism the
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sheriff blasted all of the attention and speculation on this case saying much of
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it is not true although he used a more colorful word he reminded everyone investigations take time in the real
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world and this isn't a TV series or movie Cassidy rainwater's own mother went missing back in 2007 her remains
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were eventually found scattered in a field by a farmer according to the Associated Press we will keep you posted
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on charges and developments in Cassidy rainwater's case reporting from The Newsroom Andrew ricono KCTV5 news
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foreign we were about to go through the rumors coming out in this case but before we
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get to those rumors a couple of updates that I was able to confirm in regards to
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some questions we had about the case this is in regards to the tip that came in we were wondering how that situation
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all came about there's a little bit of information on that and regarding the photos that were found on phelps's phone
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so a couple quick statements that I found in September the FBI's Kansas City office
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so it was the Kansas City FBI office that received an anonymous tip from a person who says they shared photos
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including one of what appeared to be rainwater's partially nude body inside a cage so it doesn't completely clean that
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up for us but again this story is not necessarily breaking news but it's still very new and we're still waiting for a
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lot of information to come out so now that we have some confirmation as to how that tip came about wanted to make sure
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we included it here also in regards to his phone there's a statement in an article that now says authorities
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arrested James Phelps on September 16th after seizing his cell phone and discovering seven photos of partially
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nude Cassidy rainwater being kept inside a cage according to court records so They seized his phone before they
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arrested him finding those photos right now again some of the rumors in this case include the finding of meat hooks
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on the property on the Phelps property by law enforcement officials acts of cannibalism additional victims possibly
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the remains of up to 12 or 13 people found on the property additional suspects caged victims and transporting
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kidnapped victims or remains across state lines and that these two may even be responsible for the missing
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Springfield three may have been involved or responsible for the Springfield 3 case we'll address each one of these as
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we go along here but just in case someone is not familiar the short Wiki version of the case the Springfield
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three case details are that the Springfield 3 refers to an unsolved missing person's case that began on June
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7 1992 when friends Suzanne Streeter and Stacy McCall and streeter's mother Cheryl Levitt all
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went missing from Levitt's home in Springfield Missouri all of their personal belongings including vehicles
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and purses were left behind there was no sign of a struggle except for a broken porch light Globe there was also a
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message on the answering machine that police believe might have provided leads in the disappearances and as you
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remember captain that was inadvertently erased so the police were only able to be told what the message said second
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hand now long time listeners know that us too you boys the garage guys we covered the Springfield 3 case back in
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April of 2017. well that's starting to feel like a long time ago this would be episodes 97 and 98 should
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anyone want to go back deep into the catalog and listen to those fascinating episodes in those
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episodes we reviewed a lot of suspects in the Springfield 3 case but of course not James Phelps and
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Timothy Norton because these two who it looks to me are obviously guilty of something and unfortunately it
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appears to be that the something or some things that they are guilty of are some
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pretty heinous and horrific acts but Phelps and Norton were unknowns back in April of 2017 unknowns to us and
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everyone else now we are not saying these guys are good for the Springfield 3 case but let's
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pretend for a second that they are well they are [ __ ] bags that's what makes these rumors Beyond terrifying because
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if they are in any way responsible for the kidnappings of three persons from Springfield in 1992
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well Cassie rainwater does not go missing until July of this year 2021 some 29 years later and no one in their
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right mind I believe would think for a second that these two kidnapped three people and did God knows what to them in
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1992 and then just took a long break and decided in July of 2021 29 years later oh I'd like to resume my Dirty deeds and
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pick up where I left off right Thunder cheap done dirt cheap but also this property kind of reminds you of Todd
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kohlhepp and also the murder that took place in Northern Ohio around Findlay Ohio
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a guy that had a barn with the freezer well unfortunately these kind of Acts and what some of these individuals you
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know serial killers and serial abductors and rapists want to do requires a certain amount of privacy requires a
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certain amount of seclusion so you can do these things and carry out these horrible acts and so these types will
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they desire a property similar to this and that's why I think to me the hair stands up on the back of my neck when I
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hear oh well Phelps was renting this property and he has other properties what what does this creep need other
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properties for or what is he doing with multiple Properties or this one in particular now a couple more things on
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the timeline here captain on October 4th 2021 from the news report a home near Lebanon Missouri connected to Phelps was
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burned to the ground we had mentioned that on yesterday's show the Dallas County Sheriff's Office says Phelps 58
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was renting the home a Dallas County Deputy had alerted a firefighter after discovering a tripwire near the home and
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then a call went out to bring in the Springfield bomb squad so hours later the bomb squad detonated
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this suspicious device whatever it was now Rachel Nicholson who moved to Lebanon recently says she saw the home
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go up in Flames from a distance quote all of a sudden the house collapsed and the Flames got bigger and we could feel
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the heat said Nicholson everything was on fire and we sat there and watched it collapse I called 9-1-1 because I was
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worried about it catching the woods on fire and like going to the other houses end quote the Missouri State Fire
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Marshal's Office is investigating the fire cause which caused a total loss to the home
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now you know me Captain I'm not one to believe or even want to believe rumors but I do think that the local
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scuttlebutt can have some meaning in an unsolved case or offer some possible lead but one thing that our talks with
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John Douglas told us is that normal people don't just wake up one day and kidnap
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and kill there are things crimes behaviors and such in their background that lead up to those types of extreme
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acts but also Captain what makes me pause and wonder if there could be some truth to some of these many rumors is
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normal people also don't just wake up one day and arm their properties with tripwires right that once activated will
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burn the whole damn place to the ground right but back to what you were saying about these local rumors a lot of these
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cases that go unsolved take for example the bar Murray case you get this rumor that these three
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individuals worked at Loon Mountain and didn't show up to work the day Mara went
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missing and and when you're investigating a case like that you don't know if there's much weight or validity
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or anything backing up these local rumors but I don't like to dismiss those because normally where there's smoke
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there's fire and now we have a situation in that case where they're they discovered uh skeleton remains and hair
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remains that was buried in the Loon mountains and now we're just waiting for confirmation on on who that individual
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is verbatim from one report in a Springfield bomb squad report investigators say that they found an
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incendiary device during a fire at the home at the center of this kidnapping case in the report it claims
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investigators found the explosive device in a mortar tube with a balloon cover it
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featured trip wires thankfully no firefighter was injured in the Battle of this fire according to the incident
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report the incident is labeled a second degree arson I'm guessing that there's probably some additional investigation
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that needs to be done to confirm if they want to move forward with second degree
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arson or Elevate that charge to something else the report also says around forty thousand dollars was lost
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from the fire forty thousand dollars in Damages I guess from the fire and the classification is undetermined and
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criminal currently as it sits on October 5 5th Phelps and Norton both appeared before a Dallas County Judge via a
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webcam both represented by different public offenders during this hearing prosecutors asked for 45 days until the
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preliminary hearing due to the number of Witnesses needed the state asked for 45 days but the
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defense objected based on state supreme court requirements that allows for only a 30-day period this is because they're
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being charged they're being held in the jail they can't leave until they have this preliminary hearing and at their
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defense they're going to point out look if these guys aren't guilty you can't keep them here forever right Dallas
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County prosecutor Jonathan Barker said that if he still isn't ready to proceed after 30 days that he will file a motion
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for more time a judge set a preliminary hearing for November 5th starting at 9 30 a.m so convenient or not convenient
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this fire goes down right before they're about to have their first encounter with
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the judge via webcam after that goes down the investigators they returned to the scene of the fire
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during daylight hours to analyze the area trying to figure out how the fire started to begin with unfortunately
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having the task of looking for more trip wires right to make sure that they themselves are not in danger while being
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present on this property a woman who lives near the home she wanted her to conceal her identity
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for her own protection of course says quote if these people have committed such horrible crimes as they are accused
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I hope the legal system prosecutes them to the fullest extent I am very upset by
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it Captain let's get into the rumors and I want to start off with just the location itself wendyville
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spookyville some call it now depending on where you are in the Great City of Springfield Missouri and the small
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unincorporated town of wendyville we're talking about an hour to an hour and 20 minutes drive time from Springfield to
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wendyville so to me when one of the rumors says that these guys might be or may have been involved in the
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Springfield 3 case I mean it does sound like a stretch a bit but keep in mind the proximity and I'm happy that the
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good folks of this area refuse to just forget about three missing women no matter how old the case is yeah it's a
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it's one of the most popular True Crime cases of all time you can't just let it go correct and I think that it's not
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just the proximity that some think that these could be these guys could be involved but the key thing here is the
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van there was a van that was found on the property so there's overhead photographs that were taken of this
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property that was burnt down basically and and people saw this van well there was rumors to believe that that's how
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the Springfield three were abducted was a guy using a van but I also think you put these two individuals in a time
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frame they're old enough that they could have been involved and also they're being two of them right it would make
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sense or at least it was considered at the time in our episodes we we referenced several suspects some of them
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were groups of people or more than one individual and anytime you have a case where you have multiple victims
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especially trying to Corral them move them from place to place that can be very difficult and it gets a little
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easier the more perpetrators that you have involved unfortunately so with this speculation here
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it's not just the proximity and as you pointed out these guys are old enough to have been involved in something heinous
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back in 1992 but the major connection is the van we have a van in the Springfield
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3 case and now we have one being found on their property the van found on the Phelps and Norton property that's that's
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the big big link here in my opinion and some people are saying online that this resembles the van that police were
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looking for back in the summer of 1992. here is the infamous van tip received by
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police in 1992 in regards to the missing three women from Springfield and this is
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taken from our old episode Another tip this one came in about nine or ten days after The Disappearance but around 6 30
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a.m June 7th 1992. this would be just hours after the last time the three women were last seen a woman was sitting
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on her front porch she says that she saw a green Dodge van or a greenish Dodge van and she believed that the van had
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been from the mid-1960s to the early 1970s she also said that the van was out of place not a vehicle owned by any of
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the Neighbors on the Block furthermore she noticed a young woman in the driver's seat that appeared to be very
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distressed the witness claimed hearing an unidentified male voice speaking to the driver saying back out slowly and
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don't do anything stupid the delay for her reporting this was just simply she was unaware that anything was going on
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when she finally heard about the missing women that's when the witness made the call and told authorities the woman
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driver she saw was definitely Suzanne Streeter one of the spearing field three considering this testimony to be
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credible local police at the time decided to buy the same modeled van painted the color
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the witness believed it to be and parked it out front near the police station with a phone number to contact the
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police for any tips and information so they want to make sure that nobody misconstrues the information that
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they're putting out there this is the type of Van that we're looking for we have we're not just going to draw it for
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you we're not just going to put it out on a poster for you this is a physical representation of the van that we
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believe that we're looking for in this case have you seen it do you have any information let us know it's really
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smart idea because it's similar to like when you buy a Jeep all of a sudden you start seeing those Jeeps everywhere and
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even that color like maybe you're like well I'm going to buy that charcoal Jeep I don't ever see a charcoal Jeep and
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next thing you know that's all you see so I think it's a very smart tactic by law enforcement with this move from the
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Springfield police back in 1992 Traction in the case started pick picking up again this when a paper boy doing his
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deliveries described seeing this similar type of van but he says the one he saw was brown and states that he saw the van
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when it was dark outside so could not be certain of the actual color of the van over time more tips came in and the
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color of the van changed several times so this really great lead ends up turning into confusion a bit in the
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Springfield case but again as said that tip was really at the center of the Springfield 3 investigation so it's no
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wonder that it has stayed in the minds of locals and in fact when we were researching that case and retelling the
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story and talking about the case here in the garage it's one of those weird stories that you almost can visualize
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what that witness says that she was seeing early that one morning which again would have just been hours it's
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speculation but it's speculation coming from law enforcement just hours after the believed time that they were removed
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from the home well and all law enforcement can go off his eyewitnesses of the past and and eyewitnesses of an
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event that took place so long ago it's not like they can test this van in some way to let them know that it's
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the same van that was used and The Disappearance of the Springfield three the thing with the photos that I saw
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Captain it looks to me like the van may have been inoperable before the fire right that nobody was using the van it
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actually looks to me like somebody had taken the tires off of this thing but if it's inoperable then one has to Wonder
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Don't You Get curious and go well why are you holding on to this thing why are you so reluctant to let it go is there
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something that you're trying to hide now again I can't tell because I'm just looking at photos and we don't have any
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of the police or fire members to tell us what we are seeing but it does not look to me and I hope so
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I hope this is correct it does not look to me that the van was destroyed or ruined in the fire itself that the fire
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appears to me to have primarily damaged and literally destroyed the cabin it's I
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mean it was burnt to the ground you can see a wood burning stove that was once probably in the center of that cabin
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you can see the wood burning stove metal and still standing there and the the debris the burnt remains of what was the
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cabin surrounding it if this van has carpet lining maybe you can take the carpet and test it for DNA and as maybe
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as far-fetched as this idea or this rumor possibly is this is not the craziest of the rumors
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third friend yeah if you're lucky enough let's get on to some of the rumors here
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captain and look there's gonna be some people that want to throw tomatoes at me and you for jumping in on the rumors but
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uh or for just being handsome we have a garage show to run here and this is a case that we can't take our eyes off of
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and so we're going to talk about it now the first of the rumors that I want to address is the finding of meat hooks on
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the property by law enforcement officials obviously until the police start telling us the things that they
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saw witnessed or found at the property in regards to this we're just going to be spinning our tires right we don't
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know if they found meat hooks now the online speculation has gone as far or the rumors have gone as far as to say
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that police found or someone saw body parts hanging from these meat hooks that could
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be visible through either through one of the windows or just outside of the cabin
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itself it's a little foggy on the actual details of that I didn't spend a lot of time sifting
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through the details or the different stories because I mean if that was true there's no charges to justify what
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somebody claims they saw right and again I understand the reason for the speculation the theories and the rumors
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because of the sheriff's statements and the Sheriff's Department's statements it
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sounds to me like we're going to have additional charges there is some evidence that is unclear there are
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things that they found at the scene on the property they have not been told to the public so they're they're
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speculating at this point now to me some of these rumors sound very Texas Chainsaw massacre-ish you know something
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that you would see in a on the big screen and not even in that great of a horror film to begin with meat hooks
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with parts hanging from them I don't know well that kind of goes along with some of the claims of can cannibalism
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this is all over the map as far as the rumors go of cannibalism one that they that Phelps is participating in this
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that that's part of the reason why he's killing people uh that he has victims to begin with
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that Norton might be involved in this cannibalism as well consuming human remains
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that yeah I think people know what cannibalism that one well nobody I mean there's there's a lot of these different
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rumors out here so I'm kind of sifting through them one at a time here make sure they're clear one that they may
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have served some human remains to another individual or individuals that unknowingly
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wow consume them one of the rumors is that they found human meat being stored on the property
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other rumor is that he was consumed he was in the act of consuming that Phelps was in the act of consuming human
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remains when police arrived on on one or if not their first visit again these are
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all things that sound like they're not just out of a movie but out of a really bad movie at that yeah but me hooks
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isn't that far of a stretch I mean a lot of people use things like that in hunting yeah oh dear they they would
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hang the deer by the meat hooks that's right they sell meat hooks for other purposes yeah then committing these
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horrible crimes and as we stated earlier that's interesting that you bring that back into the fold here Captain because
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we do know that one of these individuals that was living on the property has been
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charged with some type of game warden misdemeanor charges at some point in their life so this these could be active
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Outdoors men I I do want to give our promo code for the Whopper this portion of the show is
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sponsored by the Whopper the other rumors are that there are additional victims and specifically it's been
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stated that possibly the remains of up to 12 or 13 people have been found on the property I think that this rumor
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comes from speculation that the police well the sheriff's department they spent a lot of time at this scene well I think
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the first thing that you do you look you're still looking for Cassidy right right so you're going to bring in Scent
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dogs but on top of that worse you know worst case scenario you're looking for a body so you bring in cadaver dogs now
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cadaver dogs could hit on different parts of the property and that would lead them to
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have digs to look for her and in that process they could have found other remains possibly the the
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other thing that I wonder too that I think fuels the fire a little bit again that the amount of time that they've
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spent on this property that doesn't mean that they found a bunch of stuff it could mean as you're pointing out here
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Captain simply that what they're looking for they have not found yet and they're
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refusing to leave that property until they either find it or know that it's not there and that item could be as you
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said Cassidy rain Waters remains but there's no reports from law enforcement that they discovered her
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body yet or anybody else's or anybody else's for that matter which again makes me wonder who they're connected to as
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far as these the the sex offenders that are connected to the property and who are their connections and is it possible
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like you said here here could be a situation where Phelps is renting this property he
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kidnaps the person then they they cage the individual and then because Timothy is a truck driver that he then
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transports the victim somewhere yeah that is one of the thoughts in in one of the other rumors here as far as
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additional suspects going as far as the registered sex offenders go it could be something as simple as
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years ago a registered sex offender rented that same property that has nothing to do with Phelps or Norton at
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all that they don't even know that individual what we do have that kind of clarifies or clears up some of the
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additional suspects statement is we have a statement from Sheriff rice who says look everybody that we believe to be
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involved in the Cassidy rainwater disappearance case is currently in jail without trying to piece his words
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together for him I've got to believe what he's saying there is we believe these two individuals are responsible we
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have evidence that shows that they are solely responsible the two of them right and we have them in custody right now
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the courts are going to shake this thing out and figure out what exactly happened
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here don't be don't be running wild with your thoughts and your theories with additional suspects no matter what you
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found or what report you read because we have two individuals that are locked up
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right now no I understand that but what we do know is and what I'm saying about the sex trafficking we capture this
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individual we are going to then sell her to another individual but that individual is not known yet and that's
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possibly where law enforcement gets their tip because we we know that these images of Cassidy were shared online why
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the heck would you share these online you can sift through all the reports and at the very minimum we know that at
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least one of these images made their way online somehow someway right right and what's the purpose of that you're
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exactly right here Captain if you got concerns about human trafficking or selling an individual for any reason at
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all it seems like the dark web would be a place or Marketplace to do such activity right how did a photograph like
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this make it onto the internet and if Phelps and Norton were the only two that knew about this then one of them would
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have had to have put the photo online at some point right now in relation to the
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the Caged victims and transporting kidnapped victims or remains across state lines there's been some
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speculation in regards to the cannibalism that maybe they were even selling human meat somewhere somehow again seems
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very thirteenth Texas Chainsaw massacre-ish to me but what I think is more interesting when we talk about state
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lines right we have Timothy Norton he drives a truck he's crossing state lines all the time
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I'm more concerned with the idea and the probability of him procuring a victim and transporting them back to this cabin
00:34:07
this secluded cabin with creep number one and creep number two sitting around the old wood burning stove right that
00:34:14
seems like something that would be far more likely and when we talk about state lines and I guess if you're
00:34:22
wanting to hide evidence he has the ability that he has reason to be out on the road constantly he could be
00:34:29
he could be dropping evidence all along the way I guess from what I found is that his truck is
00:34:38
on this property and that there was some type of his trailer it's been reported was one of these refrigerated
00:34:48
trailers so one of the rumors is that human remains or of some sort were found in this trailer again this is
00:34:55
speculation but uh certainly adds to the just the horrific thoughts that you can put into this case
00:35:06
and the possibilities in this case but yeah but it's not out of the realm of possibilities we see these individuals
00:35:12
all the time they're a suspect in one case and that leads to the the discovery of several other victims well and that's
00:35:20
interesting Captain because it it makes me think of a few different things here right
00:35:25
um first is something we've talked about plenty of times before linkage blindness
00:35:31
right for years John Douglas and his team were trying to point out to sheriff departments and police departments
00:35:38
across this country to not be blinded to the possibility of linking these unsolved homicide cases
00:35:47
together right here you have what we've seen in some cases which is the reverse of that where the public sees a case and
00:35:57
then starts tacking on every crime unsolved murder kidnapping that they can think of
00:36:02
to this being almost a suspect zero type of situation we've seen that with the Zodiac right his his crimes he committed
00:36:10
them using different murder weapons in different locales so it's easy to just kind of tack on a bunch of unsolved
00:36:17
homicides that it took place in California or surrounding areas at around that same time and say all right
00:36:26
well the Zodiac remember when he told us it was zodiac score 35 and the San Francisco PD score was zero right well
00:36:35
here's your other your other homicides that get us to that 35 number your boy Cold Case Cameron he's told us that Ed
00:36:44
Edwards killed every person you could ever think of he's not my boy I know I I joke I joke the funny Theory Cold
00:36:53
Case Cameron he's got some interesting theories on Ed Edwards maybe it's like shooting fish in a barrel at some point
00:36:58
if you just throw enough of them out there you're going to be right on one or two of them yeah this reminds me also of
00:37:05
uh Bruce MacArthur from Canada the Canadian serial killer he was putting them putting the victim's
00:37:12
remains in planters Planters right he was just burying them in the Planters right because we had the Jimmy Rice case
00:37:19
which that monster that killed that boy he he put He cemented or concrete I don't know that there is a difference
00:37:26
between the two I'm a dumb guy that hangs out in a garage all day I don't know the difference between cement or
00:37:31
concrete and we sniff glue but he huffing paint so yeah I can't MacArthur was just burying the the
00:37:40
remains in these large Planters from my understanding yeah and the Bruce MacArthur it's Toronto's missing men
00:37:48
part one and two is episodes 191 and 192. on your garage radio dial but I also think that maybe some of these
00:37:58
rumors are coming from the severity of I don't even know if severity is the right
00:38:03
word but it's a horrifying image to see yeah the pictures from the fire and whatnot yeah I think when you
00:38:12
see those pictures of Cassidy in the cage or law enforcement sees those pictures it makes you speculate on what
00:38:20
these animals and monsters are capable of doing because you know they're capable of this horrendous crime well
00:38:28
and it makes sense too when you reference a woman being held captive in a cage the
00:38:36
thoughts that go through everybody's Minds out there in listener land it imparts unknown it's your imagination
00:38:42
runs wild but it runs wild because we've been trained to think that way we've been told to think that way and
00:38:49
rightfully so when we spoke with John Douglas what did he tell us that the number one thing that he found to be
00:38:57
true in most of the cases of these serial killers especially especially the sexually motivated Predators was that
00:39:04
ideally this is their goal they would rather have a sex slave or a captive victim
00:39:12
that they can victimize again and again right they're only serial killers because at some point they take it too
00:39:19
far or they're forced to kill their victim because they don't have a victim captive or do not have the ability to do
00:39:25
so in fact you talk to a lot of old retired FBI agents that have worked serial cases and they'll reference an
00:39:32
old I believe it's an English novel The Collector it's a story about a psychotic
00:39:38
man who abducts a young woman and holds her captive and they reference this because they believe that that is the
00:39:45
the general fantasy that is shared by most of these types so I think that it's it's fair for all of us to think this
00:39:55
way and to speculate and to to want to know the truth behind these rumors whether they are true or not and I think
00:40:05
we're going to find out a lot more about this hopefully we find out more about this stuff when this court date rolls
00:40:11
around next month now we have KY3 News who we are being told from KY3 news that their team of reporters has been in
00:40:22
constant contact with the Dallas County Sheriff's Office specifically with the sheriff himself Scott Rice however no
00:40:30
further details are being released pending those forensic results that they're waiting on they being the
00:40:37
reporters are basically on standby waiting for more or if anything new pops up they
00:40:43
will be on it so right we will be hearing something should anything come out or come of any of this information
00:40:50
now we should give the good Sheriff his due and voice his opinions of the rumors
00:40:57
swirling around we know some of his thoughts because in a Facebook post share price addressed Rumors in the
00:41:03
investigation Into The Disappearance of Cassidy rainwater he wrote that he's upset with social media and bloggers
00:41:10
thinking that they know what is happening and says quote there is a lot of misinformation circulating in the
00:41:16
case an online article from officer.com I took some little pieces from this article here they are one says three
00:41:25
weeks into a massive criminal investigation that's drawn viral attention the Southwest Missouri sheriff
00:41:31
leading the probe went on a rant on his Department's Facebook page Dallas County
00:41:36
Sheriff Scott Rice took aim at fake news social media and people who he said are
00:41:43
too impatient and entitled to wait for the justice system to work quote there is a lot of misinformation and rumors
00:41:50
regarding the Cassidy rainwater case being circulated across social media and various news platforms rice wrote while
00:41:58
I understand the impatience and curiosity of the people I'm going to give you a piece of advice
00:42:04
it's not a good idea to listen to a crime reporter blogger or Tick Tock view or Tick Tock videos
00:42:11
that is sitting in their apartment or their mommy and daddy's basement eating Great Value cheese puffs and drinking
00:42:17
box wine well well excuse me sir we're in a garage with grand intentions of being a social media Superstar and hold
00:42:25
on and we have no intentions of being any kind of Superstar well I don't think he's talking to us specifically maybe or
00:42:32
maybe he was he criticized the quote crap posted on social media about the case he dropped the first tidbits of
00:42:38
news that have been released within days uh that was the statement that we kind of reviewed earlier Captain where he
00:42:46
says that quote I can tell you we have all parties involved with Cassidy rainwater's case in jail end quote and
00:42:53
he did say quote we expect additional charges to be filed in the coming days again it's it's statements like that
00:43:00
though that I think fuel the fire a little bit for some of these rumors I'm not faulting the sheriff I'm not even
00:43:05
faulting anybody else out there in that live nearby or or live in California Florida New York City or what have you
00:43:13
for speculating on this case I personally think that it's somewhat healthy to to do so it's a mystery we're
00:43:21
concerned that wow yeah and we're trying to figure out what exactly happened so well at the end of the day we're we're
00:43:29
humans and there was a human that was in these pictures in a cage Cassidy was a real person we
00:43:39
want to know what happened and we don't have answers to that so yeah we're going
00:43:43
to speculate but we got to remember what John Douglas told us remember when he said
00:43:48
True Crime garage you guys are the best to ever do it number one true Grand podcast of all time I'm sure he
00:43:55
appreciates you making up statements for him but um in regards to this here Captain it's on record I I understand
00:44:03
the rumors that are coming out here he's saying that um 99.99 of what has been posted on social media is crap his
00:44:13
statement about we will have or will be seeking further charges is interesting but again
00:44:21
does not necessarily mean that they found anything that they've not told us about because those addition those
00:44:28
additional charges May simply come from a couple of possibilities one the arson itself right they've already I don't
00:44:37
know that they've 100 declared that it was absolutely arson or they just are suspicious of it so far right from my
00:44:45
understanding what is what the charge would be on that is involuntary second degree arson charges
00:44:53
well that it very easily could Elevate itself to first degree involuntary or premeditated arson so in relation to
00:45:05
the arson we could see additional charges also in The Disappearance case of Cassidy rainwater herself we could
00:45:11
see additional charges again right now they're only being charged with kidnapping
00:45:15
that could be elevated to unfortunately homicide or additional charges so it's likely and the sheriff
00:45:23
is it's likely that we will see additional charges I think that and what I hope is that they didn't stay on that
00:45:29
property for as long as they did because they couldn't find anything else right and
00:45:34
again that that goes back to to my thoughts I I don't necessarily think that them
00:45:40
beings they're so long indicates that they were finding things that were useful to their case
00:45:45
I'm worried that they weren't finding what they thought they would find there when they arrived well maybe the
00:45:52
spookiest thing about this case is not only did Cassidy go missing but her mother went missing as well yeah so
00:46:00
Cassie rainwater's mother Tracy wawasak went missing in 2007 based on previous kolr 10 reporting her mother Tracy her
00:46:13
remains were found scattered in a field near Lebanon a year later so it went missing in 2007. her remains are found
00:46:22
scattered in this field that's not incredibly far from windyville it's not you know real close to this property but
00:46:32
it's in the same part of the state as where these two individuals live the this article that I found goes on to say
00:46:40
here Captain quote it was unusual some of the statements made by people that will have to go on with the New Evidence
00:46:47
we have here and see where it leads us and this is what the lock lead County Sheriff Richard wrinkle is
00:46:56
telling the news and this was his statement to the news after the remains themselves were found now from my
00:47:04
understanding Tracy's disappearance was reported as suspicious but no cause of death has ever been released on her case
00:47:12
and no one has ever been arrested in that case yeah but forever remains were scat pretty much assume it's homicide
00:47:21
we do we do have the lockley County coroner Steve Merrill who tells Ozark first it's still an open case this in
00:47:30
regards to Cassidy's mother and Merle says that at this time he does not believe that there
00:47:36
is any connection between Cassidy's disappearance and her mother's death again her mother went missing in 2007
00:47:44
and then remains were found the following year maybe it's not likely but it's not impossible and hopefully we get
00:47:51
more answers for Cassie rainwater as these two monsters go on trial really foreign
00:48:17
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00:48:39
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