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Where we left off yesterday, Captain, we were trying to determine if these cases
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were in fact connected to each other. And you go, "Hey, you kind of come up with the idea that maybe they're not
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connected. If there was a connection, it's probably between the Balino case and the Evans case. Why did you make me
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sit through all three?" Well, people from Boardman will tell you, and anybody that has studied this case on the
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internet over the years, they know that you can't talk about one of these cases without discussing the
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other two. They kind of come as a package deal here. We got three youths that are killed in a span of just five
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years out of an area of Ohio, Boardman, Ohio, with only roughly about 30, 31,000
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people. So, a very rare occurrence and it would be uh we'd be remiss if we didn't speak about all three cases.
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Again, all three cases still unsolved and from what we've been told from police is that while they may not be
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connected, we are still under the impression that if we are able to make an arrest
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or get information in one case, it may provide information or possible leads in the other cases as well. And all three
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victims deserve for there to be a spotlight on their case. Correct. And we have a situation here where it's been so
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many years later, decades later, and we have loved ones and friends and family of these victims that are passing away
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due to time. And they've not received the answer nor the justice that they deserve as well. So, we are happy to be
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highlighting and spotlighting these three cases for you last week and again this week. Now,
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we are in our final episode. And as promised, we said we would get to suspects. But part of that involves
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local rumor, local speculation, and theories. So, Captain, which would you like to dive into first? Should we give
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a roundabout summary of the local theories at the time and the ones that have survived over the decades and then
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get into the suspects? How would you like to do that? Yes, let's start with the theories.
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So, and I'm sure you have probably heard some in addition to these ones that I'm
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about to bring up. But the general theories that were going on at the time, again, these could pertain to one case
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or all of the cases. But the local theories and rumors in the '70s and the ones that have survived
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till this day are that a priest or priests were involved in one if not more of the murders. There's been a brown van
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story and other mysterious van stories that have lasted the the last five decades.
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There's also, of course, in any of these cases, we always talk about the old pervert roundups. So, you're going to
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have your sexual predators and and local known perverts that would be part of any
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theory. There's also the quote-unquote security guard theory. And I mean, really, there was when you
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have cases that don't have an answer, we don't have an arrest, they often are going to lead to public
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speculation. And then, let's take that a step further further. No, let's take it
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two steps further because we have three murders in total in five years. Of course, there's going to be local
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speculation and concern and theories. And a lot of these have, again, lasted for now five decades. Well, let's start
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off with the security guard theory. And we know his name, but it'll make sense why we're just going to call him
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security guard. And that's for his own protection. Correct. So, I'm now going to reference
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Carolyn's article from porchlightonline.com. And she says there was a security guard
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that worked at a place near Brad's house. This is where Don Templeman says that he and Brad did spend a lot of
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time. Now, it sounds like based off of her article that a lot of people in the community thought that he was a very
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good suspect in at least the Brad Balino case. And Don Templeman even says that he
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suspected this man, too. Especially very early on. Now, so a little bit of information from that article about this
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security guard is that he liked to talk to boys, uh even Brad and Don when they would
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come in. He would hang out there. And the boys, you know, would come in and look at these rocks and geodes and
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whatnot. But he would really chat up the youths while they were there. He did have a criminal history. This and
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at least according to one Boardman officer, this security guard had a or security officer had a fascination with
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police and possibly even with younger boys or teenage boys. Now, I read up on this guy quite a bit.
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To say that he had a fascination with police is a bit of an understatement. The information that I found that he
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would go out of his way to brief to befriend police officers, try to become buddies with them. He even had a
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an outfit tailored for himself that very much looked like the local police officer uniform.
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Yeah, I heard speculation that he actually applied to be a police officer at one point.
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He did. And not only that, he was This is This is where it gets even more weird. Okay, so he applies to be a
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police officer. I don't know what happens there, why he doesn't get the job, what have you. Sometimes they only
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need so many people on the force. But what he does at some point is he tries to start up his own police department,
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which he calls it He calls it some form and I'm not going to get into too much of the the details of this, but he does
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call it like some kind of police outfit, right? Like that's what he's advertising. And basically, what he's
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doing, it's really when you when you boil it down, it's really he's offering He would have been smarter to call it a
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security business because that's all it was was he was going around to local businesses and saying, "Look,
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this is our uniform. This is what our car looks like." It basically looked like a police cruiser.
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And I've been trained as a police officer. I've worked as a security guard for all these years. I'm starting up my
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own police force. And if your business pays us a monthly fee, we will make sure that after hours,
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when you your business is locked and closed up and and not during business hours, we will come around once every
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hour checking the doors, checking the windows, making sure that your business is safe and secure. Now, mind you,
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that's not a horrible business plan considering it's 19 '70s. Right. It's the early '70s. We don't have our Simply
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Safe security systems. We don't have our ADT security systems like we have them today. And so, if you had an area where
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you thought that, well, my business might be become under attack or I could I could stand to lose a good deal of
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money or property damage, it might be worth it for me to hire this outfit to come around. You know, we do have a
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police department. We have a very good one based off of the information I've seen and how they investigated both the
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Bellino case and the Evans case, but that doesn't guarantee me that somebody is coming around once an hour to check
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on my business. But what's idiotic about it is don't call the police department,
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just call the security. Right. And and so I think this plan actually worked cuz from what I heard, he didn't just run
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security as far as the rock and gem shop, but there was other businesses in that area that he was known to be a
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security officer at. So multiple locations. Uh even and not being able to confirm, but possibly even connected to
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the plaza where that's important and one of the reasons why this guy became a suspect was
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there was a security guard, quote unquote, not knowing if it's the same guy that was heavily involved in the Bellino
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case and and wanted to know information and he was a security guard at the plaza. I believe the security guard
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we're talking about and the security guard at the plaza is the same guy. That is correct. And then what makes him even
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more interesting as far as our case goes is that he is referenced to the Hollywood, Florida Police
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Department as being a potential good suspect for Adam Walsh's murder. And I'm going to
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read this for you because other than this statement here, I can't find good reason
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uh to in to include him in the Adam Walsh story, but this is legit. This isn't something
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that the Colonel wrote or that the Captain wrote here. This is from uh 1996 uh the Palm Beach Post staff writers.
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There's a couple of staff writers there that did a a look back on the Adam Walsh case. And
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one thing that they list here is potential suspects other than Ottis Toole who ultimately confesses and then there's
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been a debate ever since in fact if in fact he was the one that killed Adam Walsh.
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But one of the suspects listed here is our, quote unquote, security guard that we're talking about from the Youngstown,
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Boardman, Ohio area back in the '70s. He's referencing this thing from 1997 that says
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last August, so 1996, last August, so 1995, is when these reporters are saying Ohio
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police told Hollywood detectives about this security officer, a prime suspect in the 1972 Ohio murder of a
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And here's where Here's where you hate to see them get facts wrong. Of a 10-year-old. Uh they're actually talking
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about the Bellino case and he was 12. Detectives learned that the security officer was arrested in Florida in 1982,
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1983, and 1985. In December of 1995, they went to Central Flor- to his Central Florida
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home where they believed he lives. They have been unable to contact him. Okay, so
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whatever sketchy behavior he was up to in the Boardman, Ohio area in the '70s ultimately leads to him moving not just
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out of town, but out of state. Right. And then they are referencing him in this Adam Walsh case
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as a potential suspect based off of what the Ohio Police Department is telling the Hollywood
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detectives decades later. And this is based off of they know that sometime after
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the Boardman cases, he moves to There's been several states that have been referenced as to where he may have moved
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to. South Carolina being one of them and then of course Florida being one of them
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because we know that he has arrest, according to this statement, in Florida, one in 1982, one in '83, and one in '85.
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So police were hot on him for the Bellino case and so much so that it sounds like they
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were warning other jurisdictions that had what they deemed to be somewhat similar cases that were unresolved,
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unsolved, that hey, you should be aware that this guy is in your area. He was a good suspect
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for us all these years ago and he was in your area at the time of your unsolved child homicide that you have. Well, he
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was also convicted of sodomy in Ohio. Correct. So he was convicted of sodomy in in that area where he was a security
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guard at multiple locations, there was a shack or a shed, like a work shed. He ended up sodomizing a local kid that
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lived in the neighborhood similar to like the Bellino case. Then what happens is they're questioning him in the
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Bellino case and a lawyer says, "Hey look, how about you give my client a polygraph test?
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If he passes this test, then obviously he didn't do the Bellino murders, you have to then drop the charges in the
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sodomy case." Correct. So the lawyer then sets up a lie detector, but it's all done underneath
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the the lawyer's supervision. They use their guy and what I heard from um local sources was he passed the test
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and since the police chief, which I don't know why he ever agreed to this, had to then drop the sodomy charges. I
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heard from again from local sources saying that once the local cops reviewed the results of the lie detector based on
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the way they give lie lie detector tests, that he would have failed that. Yeah, so let's do a little follow-up
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here before we move on from the security officer. And this is kind of a good news, bad news scenario, but that
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information that we were just talking about in the Adam Walsh case, well, that was from 1996. So now let's fast forward
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over 20 years later to an article that ran in the Youngstown Vindicator. The title of this is
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new DNA testing being used in effort to develop leads into 1972 murder case. The body of 12-year-old Bradley Bellino
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was found in a dumpster behind the Boardman Plaza. Again, this is from 2018 written by John Darnell Jr. And this is
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some good reporting right here, Captain. This says more than 46 years ago from the date of this article,
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12-year-old Bradley Bellino left home at noon, apparently walking to the home of
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a friend, Don Templeman, in Applewood Acres. A criminal complaint obtained by the Boardman News says that
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about 7:30 p.m. on March 31st, the boy failed to return home. The following day, Debbie Bellino notified police at
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about 3:20 p.m. that Bradley was missing. Three days later at 8:02 a.m. on April 4th, employees with Vary Bros.
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Trash Company called police saying they found a body in a dumpster behind the Boardman Plaza. Patrolman Glenn Bowers
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answered the call and the body was identified as the Bellino boy. A belt from JCPenney was found strapped
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around his neck. The strap bore teeth marks and body fluid, not Bradley Bellino's.
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This was later discovered on the boy's pants. On April 12th, 1972, then Mahoning
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County Coroner, this is the Dr. Blinky that we've talked about, ruled ble- ruled Bradley
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Bellino's death as the result of strangulation. Dr. Blinky said the interval between the onset of death and
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actual death was sudden. A death certificate certified by the doctor said Bellino died on April 1st, 1972 around
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9:00 p.m., little more than 24 hours after he was last seen. 46 years later, the Boardman Police
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Department is using new forms of DNA testing in hopes of developing new leads in the case. The Ohio Bureau of Criminal
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Identification has already completed some tests and we have sent samples to a laboratory in Virginia for additional
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testing. This is a statement by Police Chief Todd Wirth. Testing done by BCI, which is the Ohio
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Bureau of Criminal Investigation, or sorry, Criminal Identification, measured results against upwards of
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700,000 DNA samples in a database in Ohio as well as against millions of DNA samples
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in a federal database. Quote, "We are now looking at familial DNA to see if we can develop a new lead in the case." End
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quote. For years the Bellino case stood dormant until 2001 when the Boardman Police Department revisited the case and
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could not develop any new leads. Sources suggest a list of at least 20 possible suspects was developed. Quote, "Only
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four or five of those people seem to stand out." This according to the police captain.
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One man who was reportedly been eliminated from the suspect list in the Bellino case is now said to be living in
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South Carolina. According to court records, that man was indicted by a Mahoning County Grand Jury in July of
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1971 for the rape of a Boardman boy. His name is given here, but there's no reason to to give it on our podcast.
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Right. Former Boardman PD Detective Robert Rupp. Rupp was one of the guys that worked
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this case for years, uh if not decades. He says in this article he was stunned when the indictment was dismissed. This
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is referencing what you talked about there, Captain. And this is just bizarro stuff. He was stunned when the
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indictment was dismissed February of 1973. By then, Mahoning County Common Pleas
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Judge Clyde Osborne was the one that dismissed it. And then we have Dave Hartsock who
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says, "Our police chief at the time made a deal with the man's attorney that if his client passed a polygraph test, then
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that indictment would be dismissed." The polygraph test was conducted by Charlie
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Brunswick of the Youngstown Police Department, according to this article. And that is Rupp who is saying that in
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the article. Right. But its results were disputed by another Youngstown PD officer.
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Another source said the polygraph had been arranged by the suspect's defense attorney who is now deceased. And then
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we have the officer telling Boardman News and the Vindicator that {quote} totally
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unethical {end quote} according to the officer. So yes, that is that is that. I mean, we
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have that weird scenario of what you said where the security officer he is somebody they were very much interested
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in in the Brad Bellino case based off of the charge he had from 1971 and based off of the recent homicide of the
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Bellino kid and then being able to connect him to that Boardman Plaza area, Don Templeman story of yes, this was an
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individual that we knew, that we spoke to, that chatted us up while we were at in this rock store, in this geode store.
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And for whatever reason, I guess the Captain or or the chief at the time must have believed that they were in a
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can't lose situation, right? That this is our prime suspect. I'm convinced he did it. There's no way in hell that he's
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passing a polygraph test. Sure, we'll make a deal with the devil. Right. And if you pass the polygraph, I guess we'll
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drop this indictment charge. Now, we also don't know the specifics of that sodomy charge.
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I I do want to throw something out there. This the detective calling it totally unethical gives us some insight,
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obviously, as to his feelings on the case and maybe they did have a good case in that 1971
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situation. But we also may have a situation where the prosecutor's telling the chief of
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police, "Look, we really don't have anything on this charge. So you can't really lose anything if you
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throw it on the table and wager it against the results of this polygraph. Because if he fails this polygraph,
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we're going to tear his life apart and we're going to figure out evidence in connecting him to the Bellino case and
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ultimately we want to solve the murder. And and we'll figure it out as we go. Boom,
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that gets all screwed up because someone at least convinces the judge enough that this guy passed
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the polygraph and he goes away. He moves away to Florida, South Carolina. Now, in this
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man's defense and the reason why the Captain and I have chosen not to name the security officer
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is that based off of this article and other articles that we've seen, when they were working on this DNA, it
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doesn't match his. The DNA that they have in the Bellino case does not match the security officer. Does that
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completely eliminate him? Probably not. There's a scenario There's scenarios where he could be involved and
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didn't leave his DNA on the victim. Right. But as far as the evidence goes, they have DNA. That's going to be their
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best evidence in getting an actual an arrest and an actual conviction and that evidence does not lead you to this
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security officer. But that security officer is still a a giant pile of [ __ ] Correct. Correct. He's a horrible person
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and and it's sad that they made that deal because then a victim another victim and his
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family, they don't get the justice they should have got. And just like the detective said in that
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article, totally unethical. All right, we're back. You beautiful people. Don't be a
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myself. Keep that mask on. Couple times a day. Uh cheers everybody out there. Thank you for joining us in
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questions or information up there yourself after you're done hearing this. Any way to get out of work, right? If
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you're at work and you're listening to this, don't do what the man tells you. Yeah. Spend more time in the garage. Go
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to the website. Order some shirts. Donate to the beer fund. There you go. Should we get back to some
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of these local rumors here, Captain? sir. Cuz some of them I like more than others and I have some information
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prepared on some of these as with others not so much because I I went sniffing around and didn't find much on a couple
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of these, but one of the local rumors that has stood the test of time was the priest angle, that either a priest was
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involved in one of these cases or priests plural, which is hard for me to say, was
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were involved in one or more of these cases. Yeah, supposedly there was a local Catholic priest in the area, not
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not far blocks away. Uh kind of a flashy dresser, also had a pretty nice car. He came from money, so
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he wasn't making that money by being a priest. He He had that money from old family money. The rumor was always
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that he looked at teenage boys in a in a very odd way. On that priest angle, so I
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had a lot more information in the Evans case compared to the other cases. I know that
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we referenced a story last week called 51 Weeks. I recommended that you go to that website and check out the Boardman
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story that that that author put together. That story, it tells you up front that
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it's a fictionalized version of the Boardman murders case. One of the theories that the author puts forward is
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this priest, these priests that may have been working together, been up to no good and maybe responsible for one or
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more of the murders. Now, what I could find in the s- especially in the Evans case
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is that they didn't look at any priest. The Evans case and the Bellino case, they had, if you want to call them
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suspects, go ahead. They had hundreds of names of individuals that they were looking at. Again, we had people in the
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community that were just calling in going, "Hey, that guy's strange. Go check him out." You know, a lot of these
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people came onto their radar with really no information or no actual evidence against them at all. So if you want to
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call them suspects, if their name appears in the file or for somebody that that the police looked at, you can call
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them that. But what I'm here to tell you is there were dozens and dozens and dozens of people that they had their
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names that they didn't have any evidence on. It was just simply somebody called in with something and the police
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followed up on it. Out of all of the names that I have been able to view and review myself, none of them were priest.
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So while you had that local rumor and then you have this fictionalized story that comes out all these years later
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that kind of continues that local rumor with the priest, it doesn't seem like it
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was anything other than just rumor or an angle. The Captain referenced something
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more specific, which could be an angle that held a little more weight in one of the cases or maybe the Bellino and the
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Evans case. Now, I can say in David Evans's case, while there were no priest that were looked at, there was certainly
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a pastor that they looked at quite heavily. They spent a lot of time and a lot of resources on this Lutheran
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pastor. And the reason why they did so was this was a man that really kind of injected himself into not necessarily
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the investigation. You know, we talk about that so many times with serial killers and these other cases that are
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out there that these offenders, when police have no lead, they might inject themselves into the investigation. This
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guy injected himself into the Evans family where he was trying to make a connection
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with David Evans's father. And the way that this works out is that the person he worked for, and I I don't
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know the I don't want to go through the rank of pastors and priests and things like that cuz it's something I don't
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know nor understand. But the pastor that he worked for, this guy was more of like
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an assistant pastor at the time. That individual was the one that oversaw the funeral services for David Evans. This
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assistant pastor makes his presence at the funeral services, but he's not required to be there. And then days
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later, he writes this rather lengthy letter to David Evans's father telling him, you know, how bad he feels and how
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he felt some weird connection to the Evans boy and how he followed the case in the newspaper before he was found and
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then he was just heartbroken after where was found. And he goes on and on and on.
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Would it be totally out of character for a priest or a pastor or somebody from a
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church to approach or write to a family that has just gone through the most horrific life experience that you could
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imagine, losing your child at the age of 12 or 13, and reach out and say, "Hey, I'm thinking of you. I'm praying for
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you." Right. I I I think your boy was something special and that the world is a lesser place because he's no longer in
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the world. We talked about David Evans's difficulties that he had in some of his
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physical difficulties that he had that he was overcoming. The kid was an inspiration. Would it be totally out of
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character for a pastor to say, "Look, you might be in a very dark place right now. I'm letting you know that when you
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are ready, you have a home here or you have someone you can talk to here. Maybe the healing can begin here. Maybe we can
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help with that." Absolutely not. I'm surprised it doesn't happen in every one of these cases that we have reviewed.
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So, on that end, I applaud the pastor. However, some of the police and some of the
00:30:57
detectives were weirded out by this guy enough that they did a pretty thorough investigation on him. I will say this
00:31:04
though, Captain. One thing that I found bizarre in having read that letter that he gave to Devin David Evans's father
00:31:10
Is the lipstick he put on it? No, the I just assume that would be part of it. Right. And doesn't that come with every
00:31:17
letter? And the perfume he sprayed on the letter. He references a check or some kind of
00:31:22
money that he gave to the Evans family. And again, could just be somebody that's
00:31:27
willing to help. That kind of seemed a little out of character for for a pastor or priest, I thought, but No, I don't
00:31:33
think that's odd because what they might have done is at like a Wednesday service or maybe
00:31:38
even a Sunday service, they they take up a collection for the family. That that's
00:31:43
not too odd to me. So, what they do is Boardman PD, they're so off put by this letter or maybe not off put, just doing
00:31:52
their due diligence and taking it the extra step and being very thorough with their investigation. They send this
00:31:58
letter off to an expert and say, "Hey, we can't make heads or tails of this. What do you make of it?" And so, it
00:32:06
takes days if not weeks for them to get back the expert analysis of the letter. And unfortunately, the expert analysis
00:32:15
is exactly what you would have come up with, Captain, and what I would have come up with.
00:32:19
Where you read this letter and go, "Well, on one hand, I can see this guy's just trying to be helpful, and on the
00:32:24
other hand, I can maybe there's something bigger here. Maybe there's some something evil lurking behind all these
00:32:30
kind words." Yeah, the problem with text anytime is that you don't get to hear tone, you don't get to hear the timbre
00:32:37
of the voice. And that's exactly what the the an analysis was. The result was, "Hey,
00:32:45
this guy could just be very nice and welcoming you to his church and to his parish,
00:32:51
or there's something hidden in all these nice words, we can't really tell." So, the the
00:32:59
the expert analysis doesn't really provide much, in my opinion, that that any of us else wouldn't have come up
00:33:04
with, but again, it's being thorough and it's looking into all the different angles in these cases. And I want that
00:33:12
statement That statement should echo what we were saying last week. Yes, these cases are unsolved. Yes, it's been
00:33:18
a long time, but I do not think for a second that it's because of a lack of effort on
00:33:24
Boardman Police Department's behalf. And I say that too because we now know, based off of 2001, they were looking
00:33:32
into the Balino case again, based off of that article. We know that they have DNA
00:33:36
that is not the victim's DNA in the Balino case. That's suspect DNA. They are actively comparing that to local,
00:33:45
state, and federal databases. They've not found a match. We're now working the familial angle with the DNA and hoping
00:33:53
to come up and find our suspect in the Balino case using that new method and technology. So, that's many local
00:34:01
rumors, but that's not even the end of it. No, it's not. So, there's one, and this is kind of called the old Bob
00:34:08
story. So, law enforcement discussed other rumors of men in town that people called
00:34:15
police to report as possible suspects. There was a {quote} old Bob who lived near Applewood Acres on the corner of
00:34:23
Matthews Road and Glenridge who kept cases of beer and marijuana that he'd give to young boys in the neighborhood
00:34:30
in return for sexual favors. He was arrested a few times. He is now since passed away, but he was a local suspect
00:34:39
at the time. But the police go on to say in Carolyn's article, {quote} there were a lot of
00:34:46
those types of things out there {end quote}. There was a projectionist at the theater in the Boardman Plaza near
00:34:53
Isaly's dairy that chased around young boys. There was a pizza shop in at Southern
00:34:59
Boulevard and Indianola where a man worked and tried to trade pizza for sexual favors. That better be some
00:35:06
damn good pizza. And as far as the brown van that we talked about, right? Don Templeman remembers a brown van. This is
00:35:16
Brad's best friend. A brown van following him and Brad around the day that Brad later disappeared. Law
00:35:23
enforcement said that there were hundreds of vehicles people reported in connection to Brad's murder, not just
00:35:29
the brown van. They go out of their way to reference an orange Corvette. I had seen an orange Charger referenced
00:35:38
in a couple of things as well as other dark-colored vans and a red Ford truck. I mean, there's
00:35:45
just no end to the amount of vehicles that were listed in the Balino case of possible vehicles of interest. The
00:35:54
police are saying none of those tips led to anything but dead ends. But again, a
00:35:59
lot of times they're not getting the best of information, right? They're not saying, "Hey, I saw the I saw the
00:36:04
Captain driving his psychobilly Cadillac down the road and here's the license plate." No, they're they're not getting
00:36:11
that. They're getting, "I saw a guy driving a brown van or I saw a a a mysterious or strange or an odd red
00:36:21
truck." You know, and so there's not a whole lot you can do with that other than catalog that information, and then
00:36:27
later when you're reviewing your suspects, do your suspects have any ties to vehicles that match those
00:36:32
descriptions? Right. And and again, we cross-reference some of these rumors because back to the
00:36:38
the priest, like we said, he was known to be a flashy dresser and drive a nice car.
00:36:45
Now, what somebody's definition of a nice car it varies. So, did he have some sports
00:36:51
car? Did he have a orange Charger? Did he have a orange Corvette? Possibly. But that brown van, I think it's also
00:37:00
connected to those local rumors of that treehouse that I was telling you about. Yeah, and the thing that's scary about
00:37:07
the brown van is Don Templeman's own words, who he says, "Look, I've always been and will remain to be suspicious of
00:37:14
that brown van to this very day." And he says, "You know, I I remember this van passing us three or four
00:37:21
times." And he said that he can't help but wonder all these years later, "Did Brad
00:37:27
leave his home and was he then again followed? Now he's by himself, followed again by this brown van.
00:37:35
Whoever's in the brown van, however many people, we don't know." They wait for him to get to a dark spot
00:37:40
or a spot where they don't think anybody's going to see anything go down, and they either offer him a ride or
00:37:45
grab him and pull him into the van. What we know about Bradley is that he would accept rides. So, if that's connected to
00:37:52
the treehouse, if it's connected to this guy that would offer money and other things for sexual favors, that kind of
00:37:59
goes with my theory of what I believe happened to to Bradley. And that will bring us to yet another
00:38:06
suspect, and I feel fine naming this individual, and it will become clear why here shortly. But this is actually from
00:38:14
a Youngstown Vindicator article from January 20th, 1975. So, what's going on at that time? Well,
00:38:21
we already have the two homicides that took place years earlier. But during this time frame,
00:38:27
David Evans is missing. He His body has not been found yet. It won't be found until the 23rd. This article comes out
00:38:34
on January 20th, so we can make the assumption that all of the information in this article, if it's not dated, it
00:38:42
was from the 19th or prior to that. The article reads, "May link suspect to two boys' deaths." And as you will hear
00:38:52
here, that they are still trying to parse out, trying to decipher if we have a situation where uh some of these
00:39:01
deaths and murders are connected. So, the article reads, "Boardman and Stow police are attempting to link the death
00:39:08
of a 14-year-old Akron boy whose skeleton was found in Stow, Ohio on November 15th with the brutal death of
00:39:17
Bradley Balino, age 12, whose body was found April 4th, 1972. The connection may be a Kent man who is
00:39:25
being held in lieu of bond in Summit County for kidnapping a 13-year-old Akron boy
00:39:31
there, assaulting him at the Barnett's Motel on November 2nd, and then assaulting him
00:39:39
again in Mill Creek Park on November 3rd in stabbing him. The Bellino youth had been sexually assaulted and strangled.
00:39:48
He had been missing from home 5 days. And then they say found in the woods. Detective Robert Brisbane of the Stow
00:39:57
Police Department said this morning the body of the Akron lad was found in a wooded area in the city's southeast
00:40:05
section. There was no sign of clothing on the boy and identification had to be made through dental records. Brisbane
00:40:12
said homicide has not been ruled in the Akron death. However, {quote} we're treating the investigation like a
00:40:20
homicide. {end quote} Detective Steve Balog of the Boardman police said the two departments began attempting to make
00:40:29
the link about a week ago but were interrupted with the disappearance of another young boy, David Evans, diabetic
00:40:38
son of Mr. and Mrs. Peter Evans, was last seen walking home Friday. Brisbane said the Kent man was given a polygraph
00:40:46
test but it proved inconclusive. He said their investigation is continuing and the Kent man who may have Boardman ties
00:40:54
still is {quote} a suspect. This next part of the article is titled in custody by November 5th. Authorities have ruled
00:41:01
out the suspect in the Evans incident since he has been in custody since November 5th after the Mill Creek Park
00:41:09
incident. The body of Bellino The body of the Bellino lad was found in 1972 when a refuse pickup man went to the
00:41:18
rear of the Isaly Dairy Store to pick up the dumpster. A belt was drawn around his neck and his clothing disarrayed so
00:41:27
his upper torso was partially bare and his trousers below his hips. The individual they are referencing in
00:41:34
this article is clearly a very dangerous individual and somebody that they already had in custody by November 5th.
00:41:43
So they're going out of their way to let us know there's no way that this person,
00:41:46
if responsible for Bradley Bellino's murder, he could not have been involved in the David Evans murder because we
00:41:52
already had him locked up at the time that Evans went missing. Right. Well, essentially if you look at the the Beard
00:41:59
case, the Bellino case, and the Evans case, you could take a character like this,
00:42:04
somebody that was from a neighboring area that maybe would go to a smaller area to drive around and look for
00:42:10
victims. You could make an argument in the Beard case that maybe he wasn't there wasn't some
00:42:17
confrontation from somebody at the skating rink that somebody tried to abduct him and he didn't go willingly
00:42:24
and that's what ultimately caused his death. But a character like this could be responsible for all three murders.
00:42:31
So the individual that we are discussing is a man named Richard Lawler. Now, he is an interesting one and I think that
00:42:38
not only do we have the police at the time back in 1975 saying, "Look, we were investigating Lawler for a
00:42:46
possible connection to the Bradley Bellino case." All these years later when you review his known crimes and
00:42:52
then apply the suspected crimes that he would may or may not have been involved in to that, he certainly
00:43:00
becomes an excellent suspect because we know he was active at the time of Bellino's murder. So I'll read a little
00:43:07
bit from cleveland.com to tell you who this Richard Lawler is. And thankfully he's in prison and he
00:43:13
still remains there to this day. It says Lawler's string of crimes began in November of 1974 or known string of
00:43:22
crimes began in November of 1974. This when he was 21 years old, he abducted a 13-year-old boy in Akron and took him to
00:43:31
a Salem motel. So you You're going to hear some of the things that were referenced in that last article that we
00:43:36
reviewed in this newer article. And it says they're offering more detail here. And I apologize for these details.
00:43:45
But it says at that motel he tied the boy up and stabbed him several times. It actually says it he later tied him to a
00:43:54
tree and stabbed him and cut the child several times. The boy was still naked at the time. A passing jogger in the
00:44:02
park ended up scaring the attacker away. Ended up scaring Lawler away. I am of the firm belief, Captain, that Lawler
00:44:12
would have murdered this kid had he not been interrupted. Lawler then struck again in September of 1975. This time he
00:44:20
This time he abducted a 7-year-old victim from Akron's Kenmore area and took the boy to the woods behind the
00:44:27
Akron Baptist Temple. The victim, who is now 50 years old, this article is a couple years old,
00:44:34
sent a letter to the police to the I'm sorry, the prosecutor's office describing what happened. He told
00:44:42
prosecutors that Lawler asked him to help find his lost puppy. Lawler then lured the boy into the woods
00:44:49
where he punched the child in the face, knocked him unconscious, stripped his clothes, and was shouting that it was
00:44:56
the boy's fault for whatever Lawler was doing to him and that he would have to kill him. Lawler then choked him
00:45:03
unconscious again and left him in the woods for dead. Now, what we have here, Captain, is These are a couple of
00:45:10
attacks that this man, he was very much a young man at the time in the mid-70s, these are some attacks that he committed
00:45:19
and the victims got away. Now, if if, I say if, I would encourage all of you to go to block parole.com. It's a
00:45:29
website that we've referenced before here in the garage. blockparole.com where you can sign up and sign the
00:45:36
petition to uh encourage the state of Ohio to block individuals parole. And specifically, I would recommend that you
00:45:46
sign up to block Richard Lawler's potential parole. My understanding is that uh the last time he came up for
00:45:54
possible parole, he was denied and his next hearing, I believe or possibility, will be 2028. Don't quote me on that, I
00:46:04
don't have it in my notes. But at the end of the day, what we learn about this individual is he He has killed. He has
00:46:11
killed a a young boy that would fall into very similar victimology to some of the boys that we've been talking about
00:46:18
in the Boardman case. We know he was active in the Youngstown area at the time with abduction, with rape, sexual
00:46:26
assaults, murder, what have you. And again, the victimology seems to line up with that of the Evans boy and the
00:46:34
Bellino kid. And so he is someone that I think is a an interesting potential suspect. We do have prosecutors that
00:46:42
were at his uh parole hearing that did tell everyone, "Hey, this guy, after we locked him up for one murder and for all
00:46:52
these other assaults that he did, he told law enforcement that he has killed five or six other kids." Now, we don't
00:47:00
know if that's true, obviously, or they would have convicted him of those cases.
00:47:05
He told law enforcement that this was not his only murder victim. And again, we know he was active in this general
00:47:11
area around this general time. So I think he falls into a good suspect and double down that we know he was looked
00:47:19
at in 1975 for the Bellino murder. So he was somebody that was on their radar and
00:47:26
luckily for all of us, he's been locked up ever since. One, you have to take his claims serious
00:47:31
and the reason why is what we've learned through the last 500 and some episodes is normally serial killers are not going
00:47:38
to admit to child murders. Now you got this guy that you locked up and you convicted on a child murder and
00:47:45
he's telling you, "Hey, I've I've killed more children." Yeah, and one thing I don't want to add more scary elements to
00:47:51
already a scary story here, but pictures of Richard Lawler from the mid-70s when
00:47:58
we have these pictures because he was in court facing these charges. His picture
00:48:02
was taken by the papers at the time. And of course, when he was arrested as well.
00:48:07
He is a young-looking dude. And I know that he's 21, 22, 24 in in all the pictures that I've reviewed. He is a
00:48:16
young-looking dude. And what I mean by that and why I think that's scary, especially in the Bellino case where we
00:48:22
have a kid that was known to hitchhike. Again, that's just my theory. We don't know that that's what happened. But we
00:48:28
have a kid that was known to hitchhike, admittedly by his parents and friends. If a guy pulled up and he looked like a
00:48:34
teenager, offered somebody a ride, I think that I think that lets your guard down a little bit.
00:48:39
It's less threatening. Yeah, Look up pictures of Richard Lawler. Go You don't have to. Go to
00:48:44
blockparole.com, sign that petition. You'll see pictures of him there. And block his parole and I'll tell you what,
00:48:51
if this guy pulled up, even if he was 23, 24 at the time, he could have passed for 16 or 17 even behind the wheel of a
00:48:59
vehicle offering a ride to somebody else. Another suspect where his known crimes are similar and that kind of
00:49:05
characteristic, his profile, that kind of person could be responsible for all three murders. Let's get into another
00:49:13
suspect. Well, yeah, we're going to go from one really scary, terrible, horrible person to just another
00:49:19
demon that happened to be roaming this country. And this is a man named Wayne Chapman.
00:49:26
Now, some of our true crime friends out there will know this name. Others, this might be a a newer name to you, but this
00:49:33
guy is a serial child sex offender. Okay, this is an individual that committed sexual acts against children
00:49:43
time and time again repeatedly throughout the course of his almost entire life span. He started
00:49:50
assaulting other kids when he was just a kid himself. And it carried on well into his adult
00:49:57
years. And I believe if he wasn't locked up, he was looking to assault children.
00:50:02
Was he a murderer? That's certainly up for debate. But this is an individual that was highly involved in in producing
00:50:12
child pornography and selling it to other individuals. He was also He was also busying his time
00:50:19
trying to lure children away. And he was He had a preference He had a preference
00:50:24
for boys. And as far as I could see, all of his known crimes were against boys. Now,
00:50:31
he was an individual that was locked up for a decent amount of time. He does get
00:50:35
charged at some point. And the reason why he pops up on the radar is based off of, again, proximity to Boardman, Ohio.
00:50:44
And also his admitted information that he gives to police. What we have here, Captain, is a
00:50:52
situation he's driving. He had this van, and I don't want to give a description of this van because I've been given a
00:50:58
few different descriptions of this van. And supposedly he used the same van for years and years and years. And I don't
00:51:05
want to throw it out there not knowing which one is more accurate. Uh I have two kind of different descriptions of
00:51:11
this van. But what I do know is that at some point he's pulled over. And when he's pulled over, the police officer
00:51:19
notices a bunch of strange pictures inside this man's van. And these are pictures of him with boys.
00:51:28
And these are There are dozens of these pictures. Well, again, hashtag ban the van. And I believe it's also possibly
00:51:35
other individuals whose faces were not So, he ran around in these rings, these child perpetrator horrible offenders. He
00:51:44
ran around with some other guys that were into the same things that he was into. And so, when they arrested him,
00:51:51
they ended up charging him with a local crime. And this took place in another state when they arrested him. However,
00:51:57
when they find all these dozens and dozens of pictures, they're going, "How many horrible things has this guy
00:52:02
been involved in?" And when they start talking to him, they're like, "You know, we want to know where you've been, what
00:52:08
you've been up to, uh especially since you've been an adult." Because I believe he was kind of a
00:52:13
a younger adult at the time, maybe 30s when he got arrested. Again, this case is so big and there's so many notes. I'm
00:52:20
I'm failing to find the the piece of information that I wanted to be able to spout here for you. But Well, don't
00:52:25
worry. Your pay will be deducted. Thank you. And I know that he has ties to many
00:52:32
other states. We're talking Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, possibly Illinois. I mean, it's Ohio.
00:52:41
It's all over the map. Now, what I did was I ended up hearing this individual. His name is
00:52:48
David McGrath. And he wrote a book on Wayne Chapman. Some of you may know Wayne Chapman's
00:52:55
name from David's book. Some of you may know Wayne Chapman's name from There was
00:53:01
a an old case and an old documentary. I believe it was called Have You Seen Andy?
00:53:09
And it's about an old disappearance case of a 10-year-old boy from Lawrence who disappeared without a trace in 1976.
00:53:20
The victim's name is Andy Pugliesi. So, some of you may have seen that documentary. I believe it's probably
00:53:26
about 15 years old at this point, but it's a very good documentary. I recommend it.
00:53:33
The documentary claims that Wayne Chapman is the prime suspect in the disappearance of this Andy kid.
00:53:40
And it's I say claims because there are police that say, "Yes, he's somebody we would look at or did
00:53:47
look at, but we don't really know how he came onto our radar." So, I don't know how prime of a suspect he actually is.
00:53:53
But the documentarian did a great job on piecing together Andy's story as well as
00:53:59
possible connections to Wayne Chapman. And then you have David's book, Monster: The Life and Crimes of Wayne Chapman. He
00:54:08
goes on to explain, again, why this guy's a good suspect in this in in this case and this crime and how
00:54:15
he could be tied to others. I spoke with David. David told me that around the time period of these Boardman
00:54:22
murders, that Wayne Chapman lived in Oil City, Pennsylvania. Oil City, Pennsylvania is
00:54:30
in western Pennsylvania. Boardman, Ohio is in eastern Ohio. For those of you that own a map, you will know that the
00:54:37
Ohio state touches the border of Pennsylvania. And so, the proximity between Oil City
00:54:43
and Boardman, Ohio, it's not a terribly big distance. And the other thing, too, Well, hold on. Let me unfold my map real
00:54:51
quick. The other thing, too, is David points out that Chapman had a lot of ties, not just based off of that
00:54:58
statement that he provided to police when he was arrested, "Hey, I've been to all these other cities and I've lived
00:55:03
and stayed for a period of time in some of these other cities and states." But David points out in his book that this
00:55:11
guy ran around with guys that were in other states that were doing things that that he was doing as well as
00:55:20
probably some things that were even worse, if you can imagine, even worse than what Wayne Chapman was doing or was
00:55:26
capable of. And that he believes that it's through him creating and producing this child pornography and then selling
00:55:35
it to people that he made these connections and these friendships. And so, who knows
00:55:41
how far and how wide the evil tentacles of this Wayne Chapman monster would span
00:55:51
over the course of time and distance. Again, another good suspect. It's it's the profile of the person. And And And
00:55:58
initially, I think law enforcement, when these crimes happen, they start looking at people that that
00:56:03
they've already arrested. We've seen this in the Delphi case. We've seen this in the Amy Mihaljevic or or JonBenét
00:56:09
Ramsey. When there's crimes against children, they start looking at who has already
00:56:15
committed crimes and who can fit that profile initially. And there's a lot of suspects that you
00:56:22
could, again, make a very intelligent argument that could be responsible for all these as long as
00:56:28
they were not arrested at the time, obviously. And I'll tell you what, I actually located some of my notes
00:56:34
while you were speaking there, Captain. Chapman was arrested in New York state in 1976.
00:56:40
And it was after that arrest, shortly after that arrest, that he admitted to sexually assaulting at least 15 boys.
00:56:48
And he put those ages between 7 and 10. And from locations of Providence, Brockton, Webster,
00:56:55
uh Concord, Norwich, and then in communities in Pennsylvania, New York, and Virginia. I mean, the list
00:57:03
goes on and on and on. This case becomes complex because there are three cases. And then the first question is, are they
00:57:10
connected? But I I think we should just We We probably could talk about this case for another few hours. Let's go
00:57:16
case by case and and and go over what you think happened. So, let's start with the Beard case. So,
00:57:23
with the Thomas Beard case, I think that it's probably just what police have told
00:57:28
us that that they they've locked into this theory over the years that he was attacked by a peer or his peers. And
00:57:37
that it was probably an unintentional homicide. That he was killed as a result of that attack. And as we said earlier,
00:57:46
he's found later found and then placed in the hospital. I actually, if you know, if I had to
00:57:52
make wagers on these cases, I actually think that probably all three of them are not connected. If there is a
00:57:58
connection, it would be between the Bolino and Evans case. I'm kind of locked in on my thought that
00:58:04
Bolino probably accepted a ride or was even looking for a ride on his way home, and he just got in the wrong vehicle.
00:58:14
And don't Don't anybody come at me and say I'm victim blaming here. Um I'm just saying that that's what I
00:58:19
think happened. And I don't think that he put himself in a bad position. I think that that's just, unfortunately,
00:58:24
what happened. Maybe somebody like Richard Lawler picked him up. Or somebody like Wayne Chapman. Or one of
00:58:30
Chapman's goon friends picked them up. Or it could be any other weirdo. I I I see a sadistic nature to
00:58:40
the Bolino case, where I would believe that a Richard Lawler type would be more likely to have committed that crime. The
00:58:49
Evans case is very difficult for me to put an opinion on, other than the fact that I believe, 100%, that this kid was
00:58:57
abducted, based off of the hat being stomped into the ground, the location in which he was last seen, and the time
00:59:04
frame. I really believe that somebody grabbed him. There's a chance that, given the neighborhood and in the lay of
00:59:10
the land, that it would be it would be better suited and more likely that two individuals were involved in the
00:59:17
abduction of David Evans. Now, were they of the sadistic nature that the the killer was of Brad Bolino?
00:59:24
I don't know. We Because he gets sick at some point and then he dies. He slips into this coma at some point and dies.
00:59:32
So, we don't know it's really too hard to difficult and too difficult to decipher what would have happened if
00:59:38
that had not happened. Would they have let him go? Or would there be no sexual assault at all? It's very difficult to
00:59:44
say what took place in that situation. My gut with the Evans thing tells me that
00:59:50
someone or someone's may have bit off more than they could chew, right? That they took they took
00:59:56
this kid and maybe they took him for reasons other than murder. And I really wish
01:00:02
I just really wish that this would have been ruled a homicide. I know that the Boardman Police Department treated the
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investigation as such, but I really wish that this would have been ruled a homicide.
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I'll start with the Beard case. I agree with you. It's probably an individual or
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multiple individuals. My problem with it is that if there's multiple individuals, they're more
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likely to have more rumors. Maybe somebody confesses to being there but not being really a part of it. I believe
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somebody heard something, whether that's a rumor or confession. Maybe you're drinking with your friend
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one night and he confesses to being there. Somebody has heard something, somebody
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has seen something. And if you saw something, you should be saying something. Enough, you know, enough is
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enough. Do not protect these people, whether you think it was an accident or not
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or or so a situation that just got out of hand. This child died, didn't get to pursue a life. One victim becomes many
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victims because of his family, friends, and all of his loved ones. So again, I think somebody saw something.
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They need to say something. As far as the Balino case goes, I think Don's gut feeling about this brown van is correct.
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And if that brown van is connected to the treehouse and those rumors, I think that makes some sense. Older
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gentleman or maybe even late teens offers some booze, offers some money, offers whatever for sexual
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favors. It gets out of hand. Again, a 12-year-old can't consent. That is rape. This person is a rapist. This person is
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a murderer. I think another situation where somebody probably knows more and they just haven't ever spoke up
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about it. At maybe out of fear, maybe out of shame, maybe they were a person that did sexual favors for money or
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drugs or whatever. And and they're not coming forward because of the shame. Again, I think somebody knows something
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more. I think we're going to be lucky in this case because of the DNA and by the
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testing that I think we're going to get answers in this case. And I 100% agree with you
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on the Evans case. I think that the intent probably was rape and murder. And they just never got to that because
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of his medical condition. But but it's sad. And again, there's three kids that didn't get to go on and
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and create a future. And who knows what they would have become. And I feel very bad, especially in the Balino case,
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because there's misinformation, I think. Mhm. And some kind of confusion and that
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might just because time passed and people misremember. But that has to be very difficult on his
01:02:52
family because of there's three cases within a small location. Similar profiles as far as victimology.
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There's a lot of good suspects. I think those individuals that we mentioned are probably responsible for a lot more
01:03:08
crimes, especially when you're young boy and you're molested. There there's a a shame and the reason
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why a lot of these boys don't come forward. And if you were one of these kids, you
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shouldn't be ashamed of this is not your fault that any of this stuff would have
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happened to you. And and hopefully you can seek out you know, justice or seek out therapy to
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to get you through all that. But I mean, it's a Yes, and with the Balino case, I
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really firmly believe, Captain, that the the discrepancy in the stories only really remains in the public's mind. I
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think that there's clarity amongst the detectives and officers that investigated investigated the Balino
01:03:52
case in the '70s that remains with them and in their file. I think they have a pretty clear
01:03:58
understanding of what happened that Friday and that Saturday. They just don't need to tell us all that
01:04:03
information because again, that case is heating up again. 2018, they tell us, "Hey, we're checking familial DNA." And
01:04:10
it appears that that's continuing to this day. So, they don't want to let a lot of that information out. So, I'm
01:04:16
very hopeful on that end. I'm glad that you brought up the van the Don Templeman van story again
01:04:24
because one thing that I failed to mention with this Wayne Chapman character, and we mentioned his van, but
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I didn't give a description of such. The description of of his van is not terribly unlike the description, the
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very vague, broad description that Don Templeman provided to police and the media back then. And what's interesting
01:04:46
about that angle to me is that I've been told a couple different things. One, that Chapman Chapman was fully on
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Boardman PD's radar at some point. In the '70s or the '80s at some point, it's hard for me to say
01:05:01
exactly when he became or or was on their radar. But I was told two different reasons why he was on their
01:05:07
radar. One was simply that they were calling other jurisdictions and trying to find crimes that they thought were
01:05:13
matching the ones that they were unable to solve in Boardman. The other version of that same story is that
01:05:20
Chapman was on their radar because his van or a description that's very similar to
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the van that he was later arrested in was mentioned in the Balino and possibly the Evans case. So, that's really
01:05:35
interesting there on that angle. I'm with you, Captain. I I think that we we have similar thoughts and theories on
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this. I'm hoping others will provide theirs to us on the blog at truecrimegarage.com.
01:05:47
If you have any information at all in any of these three homicides, please contact the Boardman Police Department.
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Their phone number is 330-726-4144. And I just wanted to give a quick shout-out because like I said, by
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covering this case last week, and the information that has poured in, I I just want to thank those people for reaching
01:06:09
out, those local sources, and people like Carolyn Bernardino and Tom Kerrigan for reaching out and and being able to
01:06:17
discuss the case in more details. And I just want to applaud them for their effort to keep
01:06:23
a spotlight on this case. Thank you so much for joining us here in the garage. For more true crime garage,
01:06:48
check out our bonus show called Off the Record. It's exclusively on Stitcher Premium. You can find it by going to
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truecrimegarage.com and clicking on the Off the Record link. Captain, do we have any recommended
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reading for the beautiful people this week? This week we are recommending Monster by David McGrath. So, this is
01:07:07
called Monster: The Life and Crimes of Wayne Chapman and the machine he fed. In the 1970s, young boys went missing at an
01:07:14
alarming rate in the New England region. Parents and police were stumped by all of the cases of missing boys. Well,
01:07:21
David McGrath, he spent years investigating Wayne Chapman and Wayne Chapman's friends in the circles that he
01:07:28
ran in, and I highly recommend that you check out Monster by David McGrath. You can find that great title and many
01:07:36
others on our website truecrimegarage.com. Just click on the recommended page. Yes. Until next week,
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be good, be kind, and don't litter.