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around grab a chair grab a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] [Music] we spent a good majority of yesterday's
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episode questioning what was going on with this boyfriend of our missing person roxan
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POF well I don't know if this makes anything any easier here but it certainly fills in some of the Gap in
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time that we were questioning yesterday and this comes in the way of well a possible Alibi coming from detective
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James Scott who spoke to a desk clerk at the Budget Inn remember the Budget Inn is where Roxanne according to Lewis was
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last seen she stormed off after a heated argument the desk clerk made an official
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statement with Austin PD that she saw roxan leaving that night backing up Lewis's story she also says that she saw
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Lewis pleading with roxan to come back and then later this clerk says that she herself
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went to ls's room when she got off work this around 10 p.m. and the two of them hooked up the clerk was with him from
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about 10 p.m. till 3:00 a.m. according to the clerk statements and lewis' statements as well and so she could
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vouch for his whereabouts during that 5-hour window according to ID disappeared which ran a episode on The
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Disappearance of roxan the clerk took and passed a polygraph test but this Alibi for Lewis
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seems well a little convenient I guess but if she took and passed a polygraph test maybe it is accurate one thing I do
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question though is I would like a little more detail on this story regarding what
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the official statements were from this desk clerk where is her vantage point at this hotel would it been a natural area
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you know does she have access to a space that she could have seen roxan walking off or is she simply believing Lewis's
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story and regurgitating it saying and telling the same story to the police at a much later
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date the family and this is Rox San's family looked into Rox San's cell phone records and they say that they saw
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something unusual they found a ton of calls starting being made on Rox San's phone
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while it was in Lewis's possession now we have to keep in mind it is Lewis's own words that he was the one in
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possession of this cell phone so there's no argument there there were a ton of calls on July 7th that's the night in
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question and over 300 calls between July 8th and the 12th so a lot of activity on
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on the phone even after the time frame when Lewis says that roxan left and again he by his own admission was in the
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possession of her cell phone he has no phone himself detective Scott described the calls as rapid fire and with calls
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being made every minute or so he's even on record saying that it seems to him like it's someone trying to desperately
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establish some kind of Alibi by calling all kinds of people this was to a long list of phone numbers but it also
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included other motels in the area local chat lines remember back in 2000 the early 2000s you would see those ads on
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TV at all hours especially late at night hey Lonely Tonight call this number hot
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local singles want to meet you it was that kind of phone numbers that someone was calling using her pH those are
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depressing are you lonely tonight I'm lonely every night many of the calls were to an ex-girlfriend of Lewis's who
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lived in Albuquerque New Mexico this woman she denied that she answered the calls but of course the phone records
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would tell us otherwise and then there was the missing ID remember we said yesterday that she Roxanne if she did
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storm off after a heated argument like LS would tell us she left a lot of her personal possessions in the motel room
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which he later gave back to Roan's family again some question about the clothing but anyway we still have the ID
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because we've always been told in this case that roxand she took off and the one thing that she did take with her was
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her state ID so this item is missing as well as roxan of course on July 13th so this is 6 days
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after roxan was last seen a man named Jeffrey Moore was arrested at a runberg Motel
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6 right near the budget in motel where roxand was once staying Jeffrey Moore picked up a dancer at the perfect 10
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men's club asking the dancers's husband quote how much for her the husband said that she could provide private dances at
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another location but she would not be sleeping with Jeffrey Moore so the three of them drove to a
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motel where Moore managed to lock the husband out of the motel room and then began assaulting the dancer he was
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trying to rip off her clothing and he beat her up pretty bad when she started screaming the husband grabbed a nearby
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security guard his Nam Brian Parker and a pass key and the two barged into the room Jeffrey Moore ran out of the room
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but he ends up leaving behind his wallet he also left behind his hearing aid Jeffrey Moore is deaf and required the
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use of a hearing aid so Moore goes back to the motel this in an attempt to get his stuff hearing aid and wallet but he
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is arrested when he returns to the motel and Parker the security guard opens up Jeffrey Moore's wallet and he sees
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something important in Moore's wallet was a Texas state ID that did not belong to him and it did not belong to the
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woman that he was going to be charged with assaulting it belonged to a young woman and that's of course is our
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missing person roxan ptov but this was not put together with the reports of the missing young woman for a while
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from my understanding here Captain what happened is police believed it would belong to the assault victim assault
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victim says no that's not me that's not my ID doesn't belong to me right they don't know what to do with it but they
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do know they're going to be charging Jeffrey Moore with assault charges and so this ID belonging to I mean they
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obviously have the information of the person on there but they've not made the connection that it is in fact a missing
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person so it kind of sits in an Evidence l Lo ER for quite some time now it comes time to return this
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stuff so the person in charge of returning the items that don't belong to the person being charged figures out oh
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wait a second we can't return this because the person this ID belongs to is missing long story short is this man
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Jeffrey more turns out to be in possession of a missing woman's state ID and we know
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he's violent that's right and I would go ahead and label him to be a rapist or or something of that
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nature because that appears to me what he was attempting to do that night and thankfully this was stopped before it
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could go even further but from my understanding he beat up this woman pretty bad this guy he again he's deaf
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so he he had to be interrogated and this is about questions regarding Roan's disappearance so they sit this guy down
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and with the help of an interpreter they're they're hoping to get some answers initially he told the police
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that he was friends with roxan and that's how he ended up with her ID see this is what I I have issues with
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in this case we have this situation where the boyfriend says all right well she left she left on her own she was mad
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at me uh and that seems somewhat believable right because he seems like a guy that you would have every reason
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that you can think of to be mad at but it's weird that it's like this small little item oh she didn't take all
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this stuff and that's easy to point out because it's she physically left it here
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it's all here in front of me but she took her ID with her I mean was she waving it as she walked out the door
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leis I mean it just it seems like an odd thing for him to notice that she actually took this item with her yeah
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and then that being as weird as I think it is as suspicious as I think it is it ends up turning up with this guy this
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other loser he has her ID he's in possession of it and his first explanation is well
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we're friends what do you mean your friends you have her ID did you know she was
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missing you know you had her ID for 6 seven days did you help look for her did why didn't you bother to notify anybody
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that you have this missing person's state ID we had to pull it off of you during the course of an arrest well then
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that story's not quite good enough so he changes that story a little bit Jeffrey
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Moore then told police that he was friends with both Roxanne and Lewis but not super close only knew them
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a little bit but he had recently drove the both of them on a cigarette run to pick up some smokes at a local Walgreens
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or a dollar store I've heard the story present in both ways well couple things I would like to know if this individual
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was the one to bring up Lewis or if the cops brought up Lewis you know what I mean like oh I'm friends
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with Rox oh yeah but I'm also friends with Lewis a little bit if he brought Lewis up without the cops knowing then
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he's more believable so he says that it's during the course of helping the two of them out taking them to go pick
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up cigarettes that she left her ID in his car and he wanted to return it to her that that was his intention but of
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course now he's arrested for these assault charges well this brings up a interesting point and Lewis doesn't tell
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us this but maybe he could before this argument got so heated that she left was she preparing to leave
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anyway ways like hey I got to grab my debit card I got to grab my ID cuz I'm going to run down the street and get
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some smokes and then they get into this argument and then she leaves and that's how Lewis knows what she took could be
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could be what we do know is that what we do know is this is the story that Jeffrey Moore presents to the
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police about the cigarette run and later when questioning Lewis Lewis confirmed the story when he was interviewed with
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police but it seems like the details of this story differ between the two accounts you know depending on who you
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ask Lewis or Jeffrey so then Moore provides another story to police and well yeah because I
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mean two is not enough you need a couple more stories he says he wasn't friends with Lewis or roxan at all that he had
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just met the two of them at a club and befriended them there he then gave them a ride to runberg and roxan dropped her
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ID in his vehicle at that time what whatever the case may be if one of those three stories is truthful
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who can say but regardless we have a missing person who he is in possession of their state ID and he's giving
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multiple different stories as to how he obtained that ID well and also what we know about this individual is if you
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befriend him at a club and that once you leave that club he will lock you out of
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the room why he tries to beat the [ __ ] out of your wife and tries to rape her that's what kind of friend he is the
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other thing that I find incredibly suspicious is we have the boyfriend who isn't
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denying that they knew this man the boyfriend would look a lot more innocent to me if he's saying yeah I I don't know
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who that person is he oh my God he must have picked her up after she left here after she stormed off in this
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dangerous area no that's not what he's saying he's saying we knew this guy that yeah we went on a cigarette run with him
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well supposedly Lewis has an alibi at least for a time period of the night what about this guy's Alibi well he
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again he's telling three different stories as to how he would have had any interaction with roxan at all so he has
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three aliis yeah and when you have three aliis you have no alibi detective Scott
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working the case describes Jeffrey Moore as a sexual predator who was known to rough up working girls and officially he
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is considered a person of interest in Roan's disappearance his car was processed by the Austin ped crime lab
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but it does not appear that they came up with anything against Jeffrey Moore now
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remember we said that Lewis had called an ex in Albuquerque multiple times in the days
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after roxan vanished using Roxanne's phone and she told police that she didn't answer his calls but according to
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an article by David lore for Crime Library quote between July 8 2006 and July 9 2006 there were 22 calls placed
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from Roan's cell phone to this woman ranging from 1 to 49 minutes in length so judging by that it sounds to me like
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Lewis was talking to someone in those 22 calls Elizabeth and Rosal Elizabeth and Rosalyn Roxanne's
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sister both spoke with this woman personally Rosalyn says that the ex admitted to her off the record that
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called her and said quote I'm in trouble I effed up he didn't elaborate Elizabeth
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says that I spoke with her once but she said she didn't want to get involved she
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said she was getting her life straight she had been in a woman's shelter because of her relationship with Lewis
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walls here's a very interesting twist in this story and not a good one Rox San's
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Mother Elizabeth said that when she and her daughters went first out looking for
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roxan remember they were walking around outside of the motel where roxan supposedly stormed off from this is just
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in the days after her disappearance that they met a sex worker who was working the local area who looked at the flyer
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the missing person's flyer that they were handing out she said that the woman kissed a cross that was hanging from a
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chain around her neck and promised the family that she would help out by looking out for the missing girl MH now
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about 3 weeks after Roxanne was last seen her mother Elizabeth got a call this is not the kind of call you want to
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get either this is the kind of call where they are asking you to bring in your daughter's dental records down to
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the Austin Police Department this is because they had found a female body under a bridge the
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body turned out not to be Roxanne instead it was the sex worker who had promised to help look for her her name
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was L her name was Loretta Lynn Roberts and she had been murdered with paper towels shoved down her throat and dumped
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just a few miles from the budget in now whether or not her death is in any way connected to Rox ANS is really anyone's
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guess but even if it's not connected it certainly speaks to the dangerousness of
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this area where roxan was last scene well you kind of have two scenarios here right she
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doesn't it's not like she's far from home that she couldn't get a ride back home right or that she if she had um her
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cell phone or if she could have found a pay phone she could have called somebody
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she knew and had them pick her up but that's never happened and we have no eyewitnesses saying that they've seen
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her so we really kind of come to two options here right that she was met with Foul Play by her
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boyfriend or she you believe his story and she took off in this horrible area and she met was met with Foul Play there
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yeah it's it's a difficult story because it doesn't really have any light at the
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end of the tunnel in my opinion sometimes with these missing persons cases we say well there's a chance that
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they're out there somewhere and that we could find them or they may return on their
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own but that doesn't seem to be what the general consensus is here with Rox Sand's case and I say that because in
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2011 Rox San's case was declared to be a Cold Case homicide investigation now police publicly won't say why the case
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designation has changed and that was in 2011 so 10 years later and we're still not 100% certain why the designation
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changed now meanwhile Lewis walls was sent to prison in 2013 convicted on charges of burglary and bail jumping for
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an October 2012 arrest he was sentenced to 2 years in prison and he has not been
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eliminated of course as a suspect in Rox S's case police still believe that he was involved or at the very least knows
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today [Music] all right cheers mates cheers and we're talking about Austin and we'll be in Austin Texas this
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week it's exciting God willing so it's obvious here captain that police acknowledge that they
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believe that Foul Play befell roxan and it seems with them saying that Lewis is a person of interest Moore is a
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person of interest that they seem to think that there's probably likelihood that one if
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not both of them were somehow involved in this detective Scott says his theory is that Lewis wanted roxan to do some
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things that she probably did not want to do was not willing to do and Moore Jeffrey Moore who was known to
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frequent nightclubs dancers sex workers was somehow involved and the detective says that he knows that Lewis has
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probably bragged about what he did to roxan this being in certain company but they can't get anyone to go on
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record and state that you know Lewis told me this or told me a different story than what he told you guys and
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Lewis has not been Cooperative with police I want to make that very clear where it may seem on the surface that he
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was at one point or was even briefly he has spoke to police he has been interviewed by police but at some point
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he decided he wasn't going to talk anymore and he hasn't since in fact he's dodged them multiple times when they've
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tried to set up and make arrangements to speak with him further of course Rox San's family is also convinced that
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Lewis was responsible for roxan disappearance possibly in collusion with more but of course their hands are tied
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as well there's not evidence we don't have the physical evidence to push this case
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forward Roxanne's family has never given up searching for her Elizabeth has lived
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in Indiana since 2014 but every year on the anniversary of Rox Sand's disappearance and presumed Murder She
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travels back to the area with her daughter ERS and longtime boyfriend Patrick Doyle to hand out flyers near
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the motel they even got a billboard donated for the cause and they've appeared on America's Most Wanted
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Elizabeth maintains a Facebook page for her daughter and has posted on webo she says she has a special friendship with
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Detective Scott who has vowed to see the case through to the end and it sounds like Lewis walls and Jeffrey Moore
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continue to have their issues and brush ups with the law from my understanding Captain Jeffrey Moore now lives in
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Houston and Lewis walls is still in Austin and last I heard he was still a free man I have heard and read Roan's
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family go on the record multiple times and say that they have evidence they've talked to people that state that Jeffrey
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Moore and Lewis walls have more of a friendship or relationship or whatever you want to
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call it than what is obvious in this case that they seem to have known each other for a long time that they run in
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the same circles and that I think that only adds to the idea that maybe they were involved in this thing together the
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thing that we have to point out here that should be obvious is that Lewis walls if he did something to
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roxan look most murders result as two people getting into an argument that leads to a physical altercation one
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person loses control ends up killing the other person it could be as simple as he
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repeated a previous act we have some evidence to suggest that he punched her in the face
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punched roxan in the face breaking her nose right it could be as simple as he struck her again she fell and hit her
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head on something or it was a deadly punch and he went to assault her repeated abuse and she ended up dead and now he
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had a whole different set of problems on his hands the weird thing though is this
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dude leis walls does not have a vehicle and murdered persons don't just walk out and bury
00:31:04
themselves someone has concealed this young woman's body somewhere and that's why we don't know where she is
00:31:13
today so I see a situation here Captain where it looks to me like Lewis walls is
00:31:19
up against it he's backed into a corner this is a guy that I don't think he could have covered this up and concealed
00:31:26
it himself if others weren't actively involved in the actual murder itself I don't see how we don't have at
00:31:34
least one other person maybe multiple people involved in covering the thing up right we have the budget in desk clerk
00:31:45
that seems like a possibility could have been helping we have Jeffrey Moore seems
00:31:51
like a possibility could have been helping who else Lewis Wall's mother who would have helped this guy somebody
00:32:00
with a vehicle probably helped this guy now unlike some of the other cases we've
00:32:05
covered in the garage in which everyone seems to know or have a strong belief about who did it
00:32:12
who's responsible but there's little hope of any new evidence ever surfacing there were some recent developments or
00:32:22
movements in Roan's case this comes from rosalin Schultz Rox San's sister who of
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course has never given up the search for her sister in 2019 she was looking at the phone records from Rock Sand's phone
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back from 2006 and she noticed something she saw that there were airtime charges on Rox
00:32:45
an's bill on the night that she went missing these were some unexplainable charges that could only be roaming
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charges now remember L said that roxan walked out on him at around 8:30 p.m. but the records show that Roxanne's
00:33:05
phone was on the move it was out of her coverage Zone around this exact time so back then 2006 T-Mobile which was her
00:33:16
carrier had the setup where they had you had your network right which often back
00:33:22
then was sadly limited just to the the city that you lived in or draw a big circle around the city and maybe it
00:33:29
carried it out a little bit further than that if you were outside of your network then you would receive these
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charges what these charges indicate is that her phone was not in the area where Lewis says that they were at the time
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that she walked out on him and also where the hotel clerk says they were correct so if the hotel clerk saw
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something saw Rox sandstorm storming off then how did it happen at that time at 8:30 it didn't is what the phone would
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tell us who I I think it would be very hard to believe and hard to convince anyone else
00:34:12
the probability of that phone being in anyone else's possession at 8:30 p.m. on that Friday other than Rox ANS or
00:34:22
Lewis's but whoever was in possession of that phone they were outside of her network right so they were not at the
00:34:29
budget in hotel at 8:30 p.m. on that Friday so somebody's lying and I think you're smart here Captain to point out
00:34:37
that sounds like at least two people are are lying in this situation well I don't
00:34:42
know if I believe that the hotel clerk is lying because I I think her coming forward and talking to police at all is
00:34:51
is in a way to help especially somebody that would be in that area often um and would
00:34:59
see what kind of bad crimes were happening especially to women in that area but just because she pass passes a
00:35:09
polygraph test doesn't mean she could be she could technically be lying without knowing she's lying she
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she could also be lying and knowing that she's lying I mean there's a reason why
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those tests are not admissible in the court right right no she could she could have P she could have uh passed the test
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with with being able to lie or she sees a girl walking away from the hotel roughly around that time period and she
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didn't know roxan so all all she has to say is well okay well I I saw this girl walk away I
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I went down to this guy's room I hooked up with him to till 3: then I left all that could be
00:36:00
true she did see somebody leaving the hotel it just wasn't the missing person roxan then who was lwis speaking with
00:36:10
because she says she saw roxan and Lewis well she said that she saw yeah she saw
00:36:17
him pleading with her I don't know I'm just saying we have no way of knowing if that was roxan or
00:36:25
not right I don't again I don't think that she left I I mean who else would it be that's her story that she saw roxan
00:36:38
and Lewis walking away together that lwis was pleading with her to stay yeah but she doesn't know who roxan
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is so I'm just saying she might be misidentifying a person that there was a person that was walking away don't know
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who that person was I think it's a little difficult though because I I want to be clear here when when you say came
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forward to help this woman we don't know that she came forward what likely took place is that the police are questioning
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people at the hotel she works there and that's how they came across this information I don't have any belief here
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that this woman came forward to tell this story if she did come forward to tell this story to help it sounds more
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to me like she came forward to defend Lewis and to help Lewis rather than help in the search for roxan I'd really like
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to know if law enforcement was able to figure out if there was two Hotel keys I just don't
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buy rockan being the type of person to storm out without having access to be able to come back and get
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her stuff that part of Lewis's story makes little to no sense to me I agree with you 100% that part of lewis' story
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makes zero sense to me in fact lewis' story altogether doesn't make any sense I think the whole story is a complete
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lie and Fabrication I think that it makes little sense that she stormed out without a key very unlikely because I
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don't think she stormed out at all I think that something happened whether it be an argument between the two of them
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or he was trying to get her to do something that she was not willing to do and he attacked her yeah and I certainly
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think that 100% that both of these guys are involved I think that it just muddies the waters a little bit that we
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have this one guy that you go okay well he makes sense as a suspect and Lewis wall makes sense as a suspect so that
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makes it a little conflicting between the two but when you see that we have the family that point out that these
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guys know each other they at one time ran in the same circles that I think that these two are in this together
00:39:13
Lewis walls could not have concealed this body by himself no he's a he's a [ __ ] but again he's a Lewis is a a bag
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of [ __ ] from the windows to the walls and Jeffrey Moore is more of a pile of [ __ ] so I think it was
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something possibly along the lines like you said if you take out the idea that she
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was even there to storm out it's possible that if he knew and and okay it's not possible we know he
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knows Jeffrey more but it's possible that he said Hey Jeffrey you pay me this and I'll leave her alone with you or
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something to that nature and I think both Lewis and Jeffrey know exactly what happened and if this hotel clerk is
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lying but somehow pass the polygraph come forward and say something because this
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girl was murdered this girl's missing her family doesn't have ANS maybe there's something that you did not
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tell police maybe there's something you did tell them that was a lie that could really help this
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investigation and it's up to you to come forward I see no chance that rock sandstorms out and
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leaves all of her stuff behind except for an ID I see no chance that she did that and
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then let's compound that with somehow this other violent male ends up with her ID we have two violent males that are at
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the centerpiece of this case we have police on record and they do not do this very often they don't go
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on record very often and say you know what we've redesignated this case to a Cold Case homicide right they have
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reason to believe that and I don't think you have to use much of an imagination to come to that same
00:41:31
conclusion the other thing too is they have both they have said that both individuals are Persons of Interest
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named both of them as Persons of Interest in this case it's amazing to me that no one has rolled on either of
00:41:50
these guys I share the same Theory as the detective working the case that Le walls has told somebody something in the
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last 15 years he's told somebody what happened what went down who was involved that's the people that we need
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to come forward those are the people that should be listening to and responding to the calls for help from
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the public and they can be anonymous and again Austin investigators have stated publicly that they believe that either
00:42:24
Lewis walls or Jeffrey more or both are likely responsible for what happened to roxan in fact detective Scott has said
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that he is certain that neither Lewis nor Moore has told police everything they know about roxan detective Scott
00:42:42
says he is very frustrated that although he has spoken to Lewis several times now
00:42:47
Lewis won't cooperate with police and he doesn't have enough to bring Lewis in he
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told the chronicle again this is from detective Scott quote people don't realize that although I feel that he
00:42:59
could be more forthcoming I don't have any legal rights to force him to do anything and until I get the kind of
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forensic evidence that would allow me to go to a grand jury to force him to answer questions I can't I mean it's not
00:43:15
like in the movies where you can just go to someone and say well we're taking you
00:43:21
downtown because if they don't want to all we can say is well that's a real bummer we can't just throw you in a car
00:43:29
but that's not all detective Scott says Lewis just doesn't care that he's a suspect he's no stranger to bad acting
00:43:39
so it's not a huge burden for him basically Scott continues I've got two violent offenders both of them are lying
00:43:47
to me they're both hiding criminal activity but I think one of them is hiding a murder per the chronicle in
00:43:56
regards to the phone records quote the records reviewed by the chronicle show approximately 48 phone calls made from
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Roan's phone on July 7th including the potential roaming charges for 12 calls between 6:44 p.m. and 8:42 p.m. the time
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period during which roxan left the hotel according to Lewis walls what this means
00:44:21
is that Lewis's story that they were at the hotel and roxan left without out her
00:44:26
phone and he stayed behind is not true in March of 2021 detectives sent out a media
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reminder that they still need the Public's help this year they hooked up with some of the local news outlets as a
00:44:42
reminder that they were still working the case roxan is still missing and here is where you can send any information
00:44:49
that you should have Rox San's family is to be commended for their commitment to
00:44:55
keeping her case now 15 years old in the public eye but they are tired frustrated
00:45:02
and becoming hopeless her sister Rosalyn recently said to Fox 7 Roxanne's case is
00:45:09
a murder without a body and we don't have any proof or evidence of a murder and we don't have a body they take
00:45:16
comfort that the investigators agree with them that Lewis walls and or Jeffrey Moore are likely responsible but
00:45:26
that is a cold comfort when nothing is happening roxan ptto is a Caucasian female she has light brown hair and
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green eyes her navl is pierced and her ears are double pierced she has a mole on the right side of her neck and a
00:45:41
quarterized scar on her left knee she has previously fractured her nose and one of her Upper Front Teeth is false
00:45:50
her nickname is Roxy today she would be 33 years old if you can help help in any
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way please call the Austin Police Department's missing person's unit at 512 974 5250 or if you have any information and
00:46:08
wish to remain anonymous you can call Crim Stoppers at 512 472 tips that's 512- 47284
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00:47:14
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