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November 26, 2022 / 47:35

This episode covers the BTK Strangler, Dennis Rader, and his early murders, including the Otero family and Catherine Bright. It discusses his methods, the police response, and the impact on victims' families.

The episode begins with the first contact from BTK in October 1974, when he called the Otero murder hotline, revealing details about the Otero family murders. The letter he sent contained graphic descriptions that only the killer would know.

Nick and the Captain discuss Rader's life during the time between murders, including his job at ADT Security and the birth of his son, which coincided with a three-year hiatus from killing.

The narrative shifts to the murder of Catherine Bright in 1979, where her brother Kevin survived the attack and provided a description of the assailant. Despite this, police struggled to take his account seriously due to his injuries.

Finally, the episode details the murder of Shirley Vian in 1977, where her children were locked in a bathroom during the attack. The discussion highlights the psychological impact on the children and the randomness of Rader's choices for victims.

TLDR

The episode details the BTK Strangler's early murders, police responses, and the psychological impact on victims' families.

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crime foreign [Music] the first Contact from the BTK Strangler was made in October 1974.
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early in the morning on the 22nd the phone rang at the Otero murder hotline that was set up by the two major
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newspapers the caller didn't say much and he sounded angry he told the newsman listen and listen
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good because I'm not going to repeat it he said the man that had killed the oteros stuck a letter in a mechanical
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engineering textbook on the second floor of the Wichita Public Library then he hung up the phone
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the police were notified the letter was located the letter was addressed to the Wichita
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Eagle and Beacon secret Witness Program under the secret Witness Program persons
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with information concerning a crime could pass on information to the police through the newspaper without divulging
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their identity the poorly typed and badly misspelled letter provided details on the four
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Otero slangs that the police said at the time could only have been known to someone who had been present at the
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scene the letter red I write this letter to you for the sake of the taxpayer as well as your time
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those three dude you have in custody are just talking to get publicity for the Otero murders
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they know nothing at all I did it by myself and with no one's help there has been no talk either
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let's put this straight Joe position Southwest bedroom feet tied to bed bondage window blind cord
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garage blind cord brown belt death the old bag trick and strangled with clothesline rope close white sweatshirt
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gray pants comments he threw up at one time had a rib injury from a wreck few weeks before
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Julie position lying on her back on the bed bondage blind cord garot clothesline
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cord tied in a clove hitch death strangulation twice close Blue House coat black slack white sock
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comments blood on face from too much pressure on neck bed unmade Josephine position hanging by the neck
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in the Northwest position of the basement drier or freezer north of her body bondage hand tie with blind cord
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feet and knees all with clothesline cord all one length garat rough hemp rope noose with four or
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five turns clothes dark bra cut in the middle sock death strangulation once hung
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comments most of her clothes at the bottom of the stairs her glasses in the southwest bedroom
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Joseph position in East bedroom lying on his back bondage blind cord garat three hoods
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white t-shirt white plastic bag another t-shirt clothesline cord with clove hitch
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death Suffocation once strangulation Suffocation with the old bag trick clothes brown pants yellow brown stripe
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t-shirt comments His Radio is blaring all victims had their hands tied behind their backs
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gags of pillowcase material purse contents south of the table spilled drink in that area also
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kids making lunches otero's watch missing I needed one so I took it runs good car was dirty inside
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out of gas I'm sorry this happened to society they are the ones who suffer the most
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it hard to control myself you probably call me psychotic with sexual perversion hang up
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when this monster enter my brain I will never know but it here to stay how does one cure himself
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if you ask for help that you have killed four people they will laugh or hit the panic button and call the cops
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I can't stop it so the monster goes on and hurt me as well as Society Society can be thankful that there are
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ways for people like me to relieve myself at Time by Daydreams of some victims being tortured and being mine
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it a big complicated game my friend of the monster play putting victim's number down
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follow them checking up on them waiting in the dark waiting waiting the pressure is great and sometime he
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run the game to his liking maybe you can stop him I can't he has already chosen his next victim or
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victims I don't who they are yet the next day after I read the paper I will know but it too late
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good luck hunting yours truly guiltily P.S since sex criminals do not change their
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MO or by Nature cannot do so I will not change mine the code words for me will be
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bind them torture them kill them you see he at it again they will be on the next victim
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[Music] when Dennis Rader killed the oteros and their two children he was unemployed in
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attending classes at Wichita State in November of 1974 Dennis was hired at ADT Security which at the time sold and
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installed commercial grade alarms it might have been this job that kept him busy maybe it was his home life
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regardless something was happening and thank God that it did because BTK was just too busy to go out and kill in fact
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there would be three years before he would kill again the killer claimed responsibility for the murders of the
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four Otero family members and gave himself a name BTK but one thing he had yet to disclose and one thing that
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police were yet to connect to the BTK Strangler is that he had committed another murder shortly after killing the
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oteros and this is one that BTK called project lights out Catherine Doreen bright was one of five children in her
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family she was born on February 24 1953. she loved singing in the church with her sister she had graduated from
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high school 1971. now in 1974 she was 21 years old Catherine was a smart popular
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and funny college student and she worked for the Coleman company Catherine and her sister shared a house that they
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rented together now on the morning of April 4th 1979 Dennis Rader who had been watching the house and who had targeted
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his next victim picked her because she was attractive and no men lived with her and she did not have a dog you know
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these were problems that he ran into during the Otero crimes yeah and on that morning he's going to break into a
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kitchen window to gain access to the house and he knew at this time that the house would be empty which this was good
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for him because he needed time to prep the home for murder but he didn't he didn't just want to
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kill Catherine bright he wanted to play with her first and he brought with him plenty of ropes and cords to play with
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while he waited for her to return he laid out ropes and cords on her bed he used a broom to carefully sweep up the
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broken glass and he was wearing gloves in a green parka he took a stocking cap and pulled it down to cover his face and
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he brought with him a gun his 22. now he was ready and all he needed was for his
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victim to return to her home and find him at this moment he was no longer Dennis no longer the ordinary man that
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led an ordinary unremarkable Life In This Moment he was the killer that haunted Wichita the Phantom that the
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whole city feared he was BTK well when she returned she's she's gonna return home but she's not gonna be alone yeah
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with her was her 19 year old brother Kevin when they walked in they were very quickly greeted by a man in a mask with
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a gun the man told them that he was a convict and he just needed something to make his way to California
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if they cooperated they would not be hurt he just needed some money some food in
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the car keys and he was going to need to tie them up to make sure that he had enough time to get away
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he had Kevin tie up Catherine and then BTK tied up Kevin BTK took Catherine to her bedroom where
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he had prepped the room with his ropes and a chair he tied Catherine to the chair then he
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returned to the room where he had left Kevin he put a rope around his neck now Kevin
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realizes at this moment that the man had lied to them that the man was going to kill him
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so he started twisting his hands and his arms until the bindings gave way Kevin jumped to his feet and the masked man
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grabbed his gun and put it to Kevin's forehead and pulled the trigger Kevin fell to the floor but he was not dead
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amazingly enough he was not dead he had been knocked out and when he came to he could hear his sister in the other room
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screaming he got up and he charged into the other room the man saw him coming and again reached for his gun but before
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he could take Aim Kevin pried the gun from the man's hand Kevin took the gun and shoved the barrel into the man's
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chest and he pulled the trigger the assailant managed to wedge his thumb between the gun and the hammer
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preventing it from firing the man pulled the gun from Kevin and put it to Kevin's mouth and pulled the
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trigger the gun fired and Kevin once again Hit the Floor BTK once again turned his attention to Catherine
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Kevin was still not dead when the gun was fired into Kevin's face the bullet had actually ricocheted off of his teeth
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leaving Kevin a bloody mess and knocked out but not dead it probably only knocked him out for a
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few minutes and when he came to he decided this time instead of trying to fight off the attacker he was going to
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take his chances and run for help Kevin flew out the front door of the home running full speed and yelling at
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the top of his lungs a man driving by stopped and Kevin jumped in his car the man drove him to the nearest phone
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and they called the police the call a robbery in progress at a home on East 13th Street the robber was trying to
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kill two people and was still in the home a police officer is going to be on the scene within 15 minutes of Kevin
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leaving the home when the officer arrived the front door to the home was wide open and the officer went in he
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found Catherine in the front room lying on her side in a puddle of blood a phone
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was next to her she had tried to call for help but when the operator picked up Catherine could not speak
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her larynx had been crushed she could only whisper at this time she lifted her head but all she could say to
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the officer was help me help me the officer radioed for an ambulance and he knelt beside Catherine with his gun
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drawn as he waited for backup his backup arrived about the same time as the ambulance they quickly determined the
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man who had broken and attacked Catherine and Kevin had fled the house in the two bedrooms were obvious signs
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of a struggle both rooms were left in shambles and blood was smeared on the floors
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Catherine had been stabbed 11 times in her torso and back two of the stabs had punctured her lungs
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Catherine died a short while later at the hospital now Kevin was a living witness he was in the same hospital
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where his sister had just passed now he was being treated for those two gunshots
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he would survive and he was able to tell the police about the killer you know he
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told them what the killer had told them about him going to California yeah and this giving them a possible lead Kevin
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described the attacker as a dark-haired man about 25 years of age Caucasian with
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a pot belly and about five foot ten inches tall with a thick mustache now there was some problems with this
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description of the attacker now you and I captain would know years later that this description is actually a pretty
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good one right I mean it's a little vague but it's a pretty good one he got the height approximately right he got
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the size of the person right the the uh you know the dark-haired man with the thick mustache yeah the mustache the
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thing that he got wrong was he didn't tell him that uh he saw a giant piece of [ __ ]
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well because of the injuries that Kevin sustained during the the attack a lot of
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the police officers and investigators had a problem with taking him at his word they thought that it was too
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traumatic of an attack and that he was probably had suffered multiple concussions so he's just lying no no no
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no no that he just doesn't he doesn't remember he's misremembering correct okay I mean you have to keep in mind
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okay but why why well for the reasons I just said that no no but I mean like so what do they think
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he looks like oh they no they have no they have nothing to go off but they're just for whatever reason going now we
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don't really buy that okay but you you have to keep this in mind let's say okay let's say he suffered multiple
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concussions within a short period of time during this attack now nobody's doubting that he that he didn't get a
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good look at this guy uh the guy did had he had to disguise himself a bit by pulling that cap down over his face
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now on top of that though you have to worry that if if for some reason this guy is just misremembering and he gives
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you a bad description of this dude if you run with this this could really screw up your investigation yeah so so
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to err on the side of caution one might think well let's just throw this description out or keep it to ourselves
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not releasing it to the public and not putting much weight yeah that's what we're that's the point I was trying to
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get at like well if if they're not sure then what's the big deal right but like you said I mean if you give this report
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out then then this could affect the whole investigation and you don't want officers later going well I I arrested
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this guy and I thought maybe he had something to do with that attack but he didn't look anything like that
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description so I let him go right and then you're like oh crap that was our dude
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um so we have this murder and the strange thing about this murder is not only does BTK leave a witness
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but he also does not um he doesn't ever claim this murder he never he never outwardly says this is
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one that I did and I was as botched yeah and I wonder well not only that it's botched but this is the one time where
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we have a grown adult that might be able to identify him right therefore we're going to see where he will claim you
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know by this point he's already told the authorities and the police I'm the one that did the Otero murders but he never
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reaches out to them and talks to him about this one and this one occurred just three months afterward yeah but
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again you have eyewitness that lived well after the Catherine Bright's murder other than his letter left at the
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library the killer went silent both in words and murder foreign [Music] [Music] cheers me mateys cheers Captain well it
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would be three years before BTK would resurface and during this time Dennis and his wife had had their first child a
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son that they named him Brian now we talked about we wondered why he could have gone silent what was going what
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else was going on in his world when we see the birth of his son but Dennis is also working very hard at the ADT
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company and he was actually earning promotions at this job during the course of those three years he got to the point
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where he was actually supervising a team of installers and sales people now the country during this time
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celebrated its Bicentennial months came and went and the city that had once feared the BTK began to forget about him
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the killer had vanished and a lot of people wondered if he had maybe even left town a long time ago and we now
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know why BTK took a break but let's go through some of the theories that law enforcement had at the time theorizing
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why he was on a break well the two most popular you know like we said it seemed like the people of the city believed
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that maybe he had just fled the area right and just left altogether now the police theories one of the more popular
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ones is that maybe he had died in a car accident or that he was picked up on some unrelated charge in serving a
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prison sentence now this is one that I like this was a theory of the FBI because the Otero murders were very it
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was a it was an Infamous case I mean it was the the investigation spanned months
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and years and they actually some of the investigators traveled extensively in their investigation of the family
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murders so they interviewed hundreds of people when it came to the Otero murders
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so one FBI agent he had theorized that maybe that the BTK was actually one of many
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people that were interviewed in that in the course of that investigation and just that experience alone was enough to
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scare him away you know to stop him from moving forward with some of these crimes and some of
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these thoughts and desires of his and it's extra strange to me because he's made contact with the public and he's
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said hey I'm here I'm killing people and then it just kind of disappears yeah and he also confesses to being a
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you know these are crimes of her sexual nature is what he's told us in his own words and you know we somebody we talk
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about a lot on this show Captain John Douglas you know he says from his experience serial sexual predators don't
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just wake up one day and decide to turn over a new leaf and change their lives for the better so that's why you have
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the FBI and you have seasoned investigators believing that something must have happened something must have
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happened to derail this killer who was going to prey on the city but on March 17 1977 that's all Gonna Change yeah and
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this is almost three years after the murder of Catherine bright so the Killer is going to break his silence on that
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morning in the morning hours a little boy was returning home from an errand he was stopped by a man he had not seen
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before now the man had a bag with him and he also had a photograph and he showed the photograph after the boy and
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asked him if he knew either of the people in the photograph the boy said that he didn't know them now the man
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then walked away and the boy was watching this man and he saw the man approach the home of
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his neighbor now the boy then returned to his house where his mother was in her room sick
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and his brother and sister were still at home and they were watching TV after about 10 minutes or so there was a
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knock at the door the boy opened the door and on the front porch was the man who had asked him earlier about the
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photograph now the man was asking about a dog this time he said that he had lost his dog
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and asked the boy if he had seen a dog running loose around the neighborhood the boy says no and then the man asked
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is your mother home we should ask her the man then pushed the boy aside and walked inside the house right past the
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boy and he walks over to the TV and he turns the TV off remember the children are sitting there watching the TV right
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this startles the children and they start screaming the mother who was sick in her bedroom she hears the commotion
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and she came out into the room at this point the man had pulled out a gun the woman yelled at him she wanted to
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know who he was why was she why was he in her home why does he have a gun why does he have a gun yep and he taught he
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tells her to shut up and he pointed at the bedroom and he told her to get back in there and she says well what about my
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children and he told her to grab a blanket and some toys well she complied he took the blanket and he lay it on the
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bathroom floor and then he spread the toys out on the blanket and he ordered the children all three of them into the
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bathroom well they complied the bathroom has two doors the man put together like a makeshift locking
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mechanism of some sorts he he tied some rope from the doorknob to the piping underneath the sink in the bathroom and
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this prevented that door from being opened now the man went out the other door and he pushed a bed to the outside
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of the door and this prevented this door from being open so the three children are trapped inside this small bathroom
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the man then forced the mother to strip then he took some tape out of his bag and he began to bind the mother he taped
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her hands together behind her back and he laid her down on the bed face down he put a rope around her neck and a plastic
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bag over her head sometime later the children began to break free from their confinement in this bathroom
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one of the boys kicked through the bottom portion of one of the doors this was the door that was tied to the pipes
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yeah when he busted free he found his mother laying lifeless on her bed the boy ran outside into the front porch of
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a neighbor's house where he pounded on the front door the neighbor answered and the boy screamed to the neighbor that he
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needed help telling him that his mommy was dead so then the police were called well paramedics arrived on the scene
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first and they actually went in and they cut the bindings around the woman's arms
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and legs and it was a smaller bedroom so they carried her into the living room area and they tried to revive The woman
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there now she had only been dead a very very short period of time so they thought they could bring her back
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however they were unable to do so now the police questioned the children they wanted to know what had happened what
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had they seen and the children told them that the killer was a dark-haired white
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man in his late 30s or 40s with a pot belly on March 17 1977 serial killer BTK killed Shirley Vian and her home while
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her children were locked in the bathroom now many many years later it was surmised that the man the BTK that was
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walking around the neighborhood mm-hmm that the photo that the man had shown the boy was actually a photograph of a
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neighbor woman and her son this was also the home that the man had approached after talking to the boy
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the intended target was the young mother who had regularly returned home from work during her lunch break but not on
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this day for whatever reason right and when she was not home you know he knocks on the door no one answers the door
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nobody's home he's too charged up he's ready to murder and the only way that this feeling was going to go away for
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him was to kill somebody right the factor x yes so that's why when his Target was not there he shifted gears
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and he went to he went to the home where he saw the little boy go inside because
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he knew somebody was home there yeah but you know can you imagine what that kid's
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gone through with his life I mean one he's stopped by this killer he doesn't know he's a killer right to ask a simple
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question about a dog he answers and goes back home and his mom's sick in bed the
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kids aren't sick the mom's sick but that's why they're not at school this guy knocks on the door you answer he
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says well let me talk to your mom and he walks right in the house look when you're a kid if an adult would
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have walked in the house you you probably just would have froze yeah I don't know this person what are
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they doing and you know they turn it off turn off the TV and then your mom comes
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out and now you're stuck in the bathroom and you're trying to get out you got to
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get through that rope and then you have to kick through the door and then you run to go get help and then
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paramedics almost are able to uh save your mother and you would have to contemplate for a long time that
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okay we're not saying that you'd have to but you would you would think maybe I could have done something to save her
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or maybe I could have got through there faster you know well it's depressingly strange how some small events that seem
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so meaningless in their moment how they shift the gears of our lives and the others around us I mean you talk
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about had had the mother not decided to keep the children home from school that day you know she didn't send them off to
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school because she was too sick to get them ready for the day and take them to school these were small children it was
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the butterfly effect yeah and so had her little boy not been walking the neighborhood he would have never been
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approached by that man by BTK and maybe BTK would have been forced to go to another Street or to call it off
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completely if he had no alternative victim let's say so it's it's depressingly strange how
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these tiny little moments shift the gears of everything the other thought too here Captain is
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the scary thought that there was another targeted victim that he that there was somebody else that he was watching and
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he was so worked up by this point that he couldn't stop himself he had to kill somebody this was the moment for him and
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he was going to make that happen even though his Target was not available and then you also wonder how long he was
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stalking this person yeah and I get the feeling well I don't get the feeling I know for a fact I just don't know who
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these other potential victims would have been um I'm sure law enforcement knows this
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and I'm sure FBI might know this because BTK kept extensive notes okay and he called each one of these little things
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he called a project it had a project and a nickname and usually in the notes he would refer to it as PJ something so
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like for we talked about uh Katherine Bright's murder right well she was Project lights out
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and the next project that he had because he fancied himself some kind of like he
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was conducting these secret missions he's spying on these people he's taking notes about their activities and their
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lifestyle their comings and goings and his secret mission is to break into their home and terrorize them and kill
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them yeah and so the next project that he had he referred to this as project foxy and this would be Nancy Joe Fox she
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was 25 years old she was a smart hard-working woman she had a good sense of humor she worked Days full time as a
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secretary for a construction business and at nights she worked at a jewelry store so this was a busy young
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professional woman a neighbor described Fox as a loner who seldom entertained friends on December
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9th A call came in so busy working well working two jobs yeah on December 9th the call came in from a pay phone the
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caller told the dispatcher you will find a homicide at 843 South Pershing Nancy Fox now I'm sorry sir said the
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dispatcher I can't understand you what is the address at that point another dispatcher who had been monitoring the
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call interrupted and said I believe he said 843 South Pershing that is correct the man said and then he hung up the
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phone at 8 30 a.m police arrived at The Address given by The Unknown Caller they
00:33:38
discovered a back window to the home had been shattered the phone line to the house had been cut the front door was
00:33:45
unlocked they entered the home in the master bedroom the police found the half-naked dead body of 25 year old
00:33:52
Nancy Fox she was lying on the bed a nylon stocking was used to tie her wrists behind her back her panties were
00:34:00
pulled down to her knees a nightgown had been tied around her ankles and she had
00:34:06
been dead for quite some time probably hours now some portions of her body had turned Black by the time she was found
00:34:13
she had been gagged with pantyhose blood was dried around her nose and mouth pantyhose had been tied around her neck
00:34:22
the killer had dumped Nancy's purse on the coffee table in the living room and her driver's license was missing
00:34:30
Seaman was found on a blue nightgown that was found on the floor near the foot of her bed
00:34:37
the victim had not been raped there were they were able to find partial fingerprints and a partial palm print on
00:34:44
her body however these would not be sufficient enough to find a match police theorized the killer had broke into the
00:34:53
home through the broken window perhaps before Nancy had returned home the previous evening he turned up the heat
00:35:01
to make to make up for the cold air that was coming through the broken window he threatened her bound her killed her
00:35:09
masturbated near her body then posed the body possibly taking photos of her he then dumped out her purse keeping her
00:35:18
driver's license as a souvenir he rummaged through her dresser drawers probably taking some of her
00:35:24
undergarments with him he then left the home and at around 8 A.M the next morning he drove to a pay
00:35:31
phone and called in the homicide now the phone call only lasted seven seconds the
00:35:38
phone call was recorded and it was played over and over on the local news channels during their broadcast the
00:35:45
police were hoping someone anyone would recognize the voice someone had to know who this killer was this audio clip is
00:35:54
very distorted but keep in mind it is from 1977. that is correct it's like he's trying to
00:36:17
be a robot or something maybe he was doing some kind of weird Cadence because if you notice like every everything he
00:36:24
is saying is kind of like this so maybe he's doing that on purpose but I don't think this clip generated any
00:36:32
leads right in in the audio quality may be so bad that it's just it sounds distorted anyway
00:36:39
um but like you said this was played on the news and it didn't really generate any leads of any value if they did get
00:36:46
any calls regarding this you know these could be crackpot calls of people calling in saying this sounds like my
00:36:51
evil stepfather you know things like that of that nature but it was on the last day of January 1978 that the killer
00:37:00
sent a valentine to the local newspaper this would be almost two months after the murder and that but that's not going
00:37:06
to be made public no and because of that reason on February 10th of 1978 a letter
00:37:12
was sent as well to k-a-k-e-tv network with a hand-drawn picture of a woman tied up gagged and
00:37:21
lying Face Down on a Bed the letter would later become known as the fox letter right so we have the fox phone
00:37:29
call and now we have the fox letter but these are I mean he his writing is as bad as my speaking well it could be or
00:37:38
it could be done on purpose right so there's some thought that if you okay if you break up your words and if you break
00:37:46
up your sentences that that they are able to tell the experts are able to tell less about you there are some
00:37:54
people that are of the belief that by using certain words and choosing certain words in the way that you arrange them
00:38:01
in sentences that they might be able to judge and tell things about your personality so one thing that people
00:38:07
have always taken a guess at here when it comes to BTK was he just stupid like the way that his words sound on paper no
00:38:16
you stupid people or was he smart enough that he did this on purpose so that he wasn't showing his
00:38:23
full hand so to speak the typed photocopied letter that they received known as the fox letter reads as follows
00:38:33
I find the newspaper not writing about the poem on vain unamusing a little paragraph would have enough
00:38:41
I know it not the media fault the police chief he keeps things quiet and doesn't let the public know they're
00:38:50
a psycho running around loose strangling mostly women there are seven in the ground
00:38:57
who will be next how many do I have to kill before I get a name in the paper or some national
00:39:05
attention do the cop think that all those deaths are not related golly G yes the mo is different in each
00:39:15
but look a pattern is developing the victims are tie up most have been women phone cut
00:39:24
bring some bondage sadist matter tendencies no struggle outside the death spot no Witnesses
00:39:33
except the vayne's kids they were very lucky a phone call saved them I was going to tape the boys and put
00:39:43
plastic bag over their head like I did Joseph and Shirley and then hang the girl
00:39:51
God what a beautiful sexual release that would been Josephine when I hung her that really
00:39:58
turned me on her plead for Mercy then the Rope took whole she helpless staring at me with wide terror-filled
00:40:08
eyes the Rope getting tighter tighter you don't understand these things because you are not under the influence
00:40:18
of factor x the same thing that made Son of Sam Jack the Ripper Harvey glattman Boston Strangler
00:40:29
Dr H.H Holmes pantyhose Strangler of Florida Hillside Strangler Ted of the West Coast
00:40:39
and many more Infamous character kill which seems senseless but we cannot help it
00:40:48
there is no help no cure except death or being caught and put away it a terrible nightmare but you see I
00:40:59
don't lose any sleep over it after a thing like Fox I go home and I go about life like anyone else
00:41:09
and I will be like that until the urge hit me again it not continuous and I don't have a lot
00:41:17
of time it takes time to set a kill and one mistake it all over since I about blew it on the phone
00:41:26
handwriting is out letter guide is too long and typewriter can be traced too my short poem of death and maybe a
00:41:37
drawing later on maybe a real picture and a tape of the sound will come your way
00:41:44
how will you know me before a murder or murders you will receive a copy of the initials BTK
00:41:54
you keep that copy the original will show up someday on Guess Who may you not be The Unlucky One
00:42:03
P.S how about some name for me it's time seven down and many more to go I like the following how about you
00:42:13
the BTK Strangler Wichita Strangler poetic Strangler the bondage Strangler or psycho
00:42:24
the Wichita hangman the Wichita executioner the garage Phantom the asphyxiator number five you guess motive and victim
00:42:37
number six you found one Shirley vane laying belly down on unmade bed in Northeast bedroom
00:42:45
hand tied behind back with black tape and cord feet and ankles with black tape and legs
00:42:53
ankles tied to West head of the bed with a small off-white cord wrapped around legs arms and neck many
00:43:02
times a plastic bag over her head with a pink nightie on barefooted she was sick
00:43:11
use a glass of water and smoke one or two cigarette house a total mess kids took some toys with them to the
00:43:20
bathroom bed against East bathroom door chose at random with some pre-planning motive
00:43:29
factor x number seven one Nancy Fox lying belly down on made bed in Southwest bedroom
00:43:39
hands tied behind back with red pantyhose feet together with yellow nightie semi-nude with pink sweater and bra
00:43:48
panties below butt she had a smoke and went to the bathroom before the Final Act
00:43:55
very neat housekeeper and dresser rifled purse and kitchen empty paper bag white coat in living room
00:44:05
heat up to about 90 degrees Christmas tree lights on Hosiery on bed driver's license gone
00:44:15
seminal stain on or in blue women underwear shows at random with little pre-planning motive
00:44:23
factor x number eight next victim Maybe you will find hanging with a wire noose hands behind back with black tape or
00:44:35
cord gagged then cord around the body to the neck hooded Maybe will be chosen at random with some
00:44:43
pre-planning motive factor x enclosed was a poem titled o death to Nancy oh what is this that I can see cold Icy
00:44:58
hands taking hold of me for death has come you can see hell has opened its gate to trick me
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O Death O Death can't you spare me over for another year I'll stuff your jaws until you can't
00:45:14
talk I'll bind your legs till you can't walk I'll tie your hands till you can't make
00:45:20
a stand and finally I close your eyes so you can't see I'll bring sexual death unto you for me
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[Music] all right Captain before we leave before we take off for Crime con yeah I'm
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leaving for Crime Con on I'm leaving tonight I'm going I'm traveling by way of hot air balloons so it will take me a
00:45:54
little longer want to drop you a little recommended reading before we go I'm traveling by foot here you go this week
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we are recommending Love and Death In the Sunshine State the story of a crime by cutter wood and this story starts off
00:46:07
when a stolen car is recovered on the Gulf Coast of Florida and it sets off a search for a missing woman now there are
00:46:15
three men that are named as Persons of Interest and this is her husband her boyfriend and the man who stole the car
00:46:23
this is this is a mystery that's going to keep you guessing I highly recommend Love and Death In the Sunshine State and
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Episode Highlights

  • The First Contact
    The BTK Strangler makes his first call to the Otero murder hotline in 1974.
    “Listen and listen good because I'm not going to repeat it.”
    @ 03m 08s
    November 26, 2022
  • Catherine Bright's Tragic Fate
    Catherine Bright is targeted by BTK, leading to a horrific encounter.
    “He wanted to play with her first.”
    @ 11m 19s
    November 26, 2022
  • Kevin's Brave Escape
    Kevin Bright survives a brutal attack and becomes a key witness against BTK.
    “Kevin jumped to his feet and charged into the other room.”
    @ 13m 29s
    November 26, 2022
  • The Killer Goes Silent
    After the Otero murders, BTK disappears for three years, leaving the city in fear.
    “The killer had vanished and a lot of people wondered if he had left town.”
    @ 21m 12s
    November 26, 2022
  • The BTK Killer's First Victim
    On March 17, 1977, the BTK killer murdered Shirley Vian while her children were trapped in the bathroom.
    “The children began to break free from their confinement in this bathroom.”
    @ 26m 30s
    November 26, 2022
  • The Fox Letter
    Almost two months after the murder of Nancy Fox, the killer sent a letter to the local newspaper, taunting authorities and revealing his twisted mindset.
    “How many do I have to kill before I get a name in the paper?”
    @ 39m 00s
    November 26, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • It's good to be seen and it's good to see you.
    BTK /// Part 2 /// 205
  • He was no longer Dennis, no longer the ordinary man.
    BTK /// Part 2 /// 205
  • Help me, help me.
    BTK /// Part 2 /// 205
  • Can you imagine what that kid's gone through?
    BTK /// Part 2 /// 205
  • It's depressingly strange how tiny moments shift the gears of everything.
    BTK /// Part 2 /// 205
  • I don't lose any sleep over it.
    BTK /// Part 2 /// 205

Key Moments

  • Welcome to True Crime Garage00:39
  • Beer Review01:04
  • First Contact02:50
  • Catherine Bright10:15
  • The Killer Goes Silent21:12
  • Trapped Children26:08
  • The Fox Letter37:26
  • Chilling Indifference40:59

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